Wednesday, August 20, 2014

After Some Discussion...

After discussing some things with Katie, we have decided to keep the blog open for discussion because we know how important it is for some of you to have a neutral place to discuss Ayla. Katie will try to stay on top of keeping new pages up when comments get over 100. She will also moderate comments as much as she can. Because we both have families and other priorities other than this blog we must insist that the snarky comments towards each other, the insults to other commenters and those involved cease. We are all adults and can get our points and questions across without conjecture and mud slinging. If we cannot do this and make our job easier we will have no choice to make the blog only available to registered users with comments moderated or just close it down completely. I have reverted some posts to draft form and will repost them once I weed through the comments and delete the ones that were found to be offensive by other commenters. Please don't make me regret this decision, I love all of you even those with opposing views and I respect all of you for your dedication to Ayla. Thank you for that.

66 comments:

  1. "Goodbye Jeff, see you in the funny pages" This is sick! Can't you all just get along and stop the snarky comments. Jesus, This is ABOUT Ayla, and ways to think of helping. What help is there in battling with each other.

    Thank You for letting me post this. I just can't understand how people get a thrill out of throwing hateful comments to others. Especially others you don't know. AYLA Please help find her. We need more searches. What are you all accomplishing by fighting???

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    1. Jeff says that all the time, I didn't take it as snarky. Just an FYI to not jump to conclusions about what other people say. Your already breaking the rules!!!

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    2. Anyway, I'm out.. see you in the funny papers.

      Posted by Answers For Ayla

      http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2013/02/camp-charla.html

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  2. Thank you Katie.

    A neutral place to comment is needed and appreciated. Many people just don't feel comfortable commenting at other places. Their voices are important and just as needed & necessary as anyone else's.

    There has been so much that has gone on within the blogs involved in Ayla's case that is,...well...pretty shady..for lack of a better word.
    All people want is for those that are involved, or that know anything, to be honest and straightforward. As long as it does nothing to hinder or hurt the investigation. That's the only thing that really serves Ayla.

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    1. Yeah because this blog and it's admins have been so above all the shadiness...

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    2. I don't think A1 was trying to say that they were.

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    3. I don't either. That was sarcasm directed to the blog admins, not A1.

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  3. Thank you Katie. And thank you, Tori, for reconsidering.

    This was welcome news to hear...

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    1. McKeekitty, what do you think of Jeff's retraction?

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    2. I appreciated it. And I thought it was decent of Jeff to set the matter straight...I honestly didn't think he would.

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    3. So it's okay with you that he lied about you, just as long as he set the record straight? Unbelievable!

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    4. I didn't say that. I wasn't surprised by Jeff's characterization of the phone call OR me. I was surprised he set the record set.

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  4. You should do a poll on what people think happened to Ayla and make sure only one vote per person.

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  5. Sincere questions for Penny. Hoping for a sincere responses:

    Why do you get snarky when people ask questions of the Reynolds family?

    Why do you brand them as "Justin Supporters" when you clearly know many of us are simply seeking the truth for Ayla?

    Why do you believe that it's IMPOSSIBLE for the Reynolds to have ANY knowledge or involvement?

    TIA

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    1. Hi, Nina. Not-meant-to-be-snarky-answers: Because I don't believe the Reynolds family has the means and opportunity to take Ayla and keep her hidden. Motive? They may have had some, but they are such an undisciplined bunch, I can't see them getting any plans together to accomplish abducting Ayla and hiding her for almost three years.

      I should think LE or perhaps Justin's hired P.I (cough) would have discovered any hiding place chosen by Trista or the Reynolds cabal.

      Therefore, I don't care about the continuous observations of the Reynolds' lack of character and obvious dysfunction by those superior intellects who seldom ask any hard questions of the DiPietros.

      From those whom you think I consider "Justin supporters", it appears to be the order of the day to ignore the motives, means and opportunity of those residing on Violette Avenue from whence Ayla was supposedly abducted. Is that being "Only for Ayla"?

      Kind of an unbalanced position for ones to claim "Only for Ayla" and ask no questions of the DiPietros when LE has pointedly accused the DiPietros of lying. How many times? They eventuallyhad to consult their Roget's so as not to repeat the words of accusation.

      To me, it seems to be ignoring the great big grey animal in the middle of the DiPietro living room to hear the constant assailing of the Reynolds as guilty ...of something, anything! It is kind of frustrating. And a waste of time. So I get what you call "snarky". My bad upbringing, I'm sure, plus lack of tolerance for the inane..

      Please, don't concern yourself with me, Nina, and my losing my "s**t" whenever Trista or the Reynolds are attacked (as McKee so eloquently puts it). You have enough to keep you busy in your position of "objective viewer". (Better than "Justin supporter"? Which you have never been and are not now, IMO.)

      Since I firmly believe this case will go nowhere, I see this question of my snark an exercise in futility for you just as is my pondering where you are coming from. I mean, since your early days of posting on the OS about the obvious case against the DiPietros, and Justin in particular.

      You see we all have questions and confusions. Best of the day to ye' !

      Penny

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    2. "Please, don't concern yourself with me, Nina, and my losing my "s**t" whenever Trista or the Reynolds are attacked (as McKee so eloquently puts it)."
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      The "losing your shit" comment directed at you wasn't penned by me, Penny.

      Careful about jumping to conclusions...

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    3. Foil...keep fighting the good fight. I know you will.

      Don't get distracted by the likes of Penny. Keep your eye on the prize...getting answers to what appeared, at first blush, an obvious open-and-shut case.

      A case which doesn't appear to be so open-and-shut after all...

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    4. Penny's answer was a non-answer, but I was curious is he/she had it in him to explain the venom directed at others who have never instigated any problems or issues with him. The venomous response was predictable.

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  6. I am all for finding out the truth about what happened to Ayla. But I kind of agree with what Penny said. Why are people so focused on the Reynolds Family?
    I think it is clear that what happened to Ayla happened in that house and the people in the house are the ones hiding what happened.
    The pressure should be on the DiPietros to answer these questions.
    Somehow that ball seems to have been dropped.

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    1. Because we have the freedom to question whomever we please. Most of us here do not accuse and go on witch hunts. I don't see any pressure here to be misapplied. I see a discussion amongst people not in the know. I do not see the role of bloggers to be that of vigilante justice.

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    2. I wished I had saved all your commments from the early days of the investigation on the OS (and McKee's agreement with you) regarding the obvious (to many) hinky situatiuon re the DiPietros.

      My question is what has changed your minds? If anything, IMO, things are a bit clearer.

      I don't even include the blood which was revealed as discovered in THAT house. Not in Trista's motel. I know you don't believe in any revelations by Trista. Or none by the LE, unless they prove your ambivalance. Fair enough.

      But regarding the actions and non-actions of that family who were in charge of Ayla when she disappeared FROM THEIR HOUSE -- as time goes by, they act more and more like guilty people covering something up. Always In hiding. Hunkered down in their hutches.

      Why no arrest if things are so solid against the DiPietros? Looking at you, AG!

      The Casey Anthony case, with body found a few blocks from Casey's home, and a proven liar arrested from the start on trial as murderer, and the case is lost. She's acquitted by a dunce jury, an inept judge, and a convoluted prosecution. Scary thought, losing a case and having it on your record. Look for a plea deal! That's it. Nope that's not working after all this time. nobody's cracking; no more "tips". What to do? Nothing.

      I'm sure the AG must see their fellow Maine citizens acquitting anyone in Ayla's case. No body! And not enough of Ayla's blood found, evidently, in the DiPietro house to absolutely prove Ayla couldn't have survived her "accident".

      I would believe in an outsider perp before I'd believe Justin's "One-night stand" and the Reynolds were in charge of this successful "abduction". ( I can't see Trista and her family pulling together to pull off a picnic!)

      Justin's strange calm and even benevolent attitude toward the "abductor" to the contrary, he knows the Reynolds do not have Ayla sequestered on a farm upstate. If he does think this, then he's mighty shy about calling out Trista as the perp, and launching a defamatory suit against the MSP for calling him a liar and defaming his family.

      Does he think his complacency indicates to most that he knows a loving stranger took Ayla for a better life? What panicky, fearful parent believes this of any kidnapper?

      Either he cared little for his daughter, or he's content that she is having a better life with a stranger and is okay with her putting one foot in front of the other and remaining where she is. According to most of his limited statements.

      Phoebe wants us to believe that SHE believes Trista has hidden Ayla. "Then believe she's alive", she told Trista, "and tell us where she is!" The DiPietros can't pull off the great acting moments performing their own scripts. ED and CR are a wash. Mums the word. Were they even there in the house that night? Did Ayla even disappear during the night and not the day of the 16th?.

      But please continue ignoring the DiPietros. By all means focus on the Reynolds. I know many of you find that this Reynolds' intense focus is the only way to convince yourselves that Ayla may still be alive. Ayla taken by a pervert can't give the same sense of belief and relief as Ayla running barefoot through someReynolds' relative's sprinkler..

      I believe It's all academic, anyway. Nothing will come of any of our tortuous re-living of the case. It's in dry ice!

      Ignore me, as usual. I'm jaded from following too many phony "abducted" kids' cases. Keep on with your Reynolds research.I can see it does give one more hope that Ayla is alive. Don't mention the blood in the Waterville house, though. It spoils the effect.

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    3. I haven't changed my thoughts since the early MS days. I've expanded them to include other possibilities. Just because Justin looks guilty doesn't mean Trista is innocent. All of the questions and accusations that could possibly be posed have been done so over at your stomping grounds. Why you detest others adding another dimension to the discussion and go out of your way to try to bully them into silence remains a mystery unless you are simply a control freak.

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    4. And I mean no offense with "control freak." I can be one, too.

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    5. Here is what I think is the problem. The DiPietros act guilty. Their collective behavior is exactly what we expect from those who are guilty. What we focus on is the "unexpected", the behavior of Trista Reynolds and her family.

      If they are not involved, why are they lying, leaking evidence and generally acting like, well, I'm not sure I have an example.

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    6. The reynolds family has really spoken out for Ayla too. They don't behave guilty. They behave like a dysfunctional family.
      I think they believe telling the evidence will make something move in this case.
      They seem more disorderly than lying. They seem like they don't get all the facts straight all the time before they speak. Like they think out loud.
      But I don't think they are trying to hide anything about Ayla.

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    7. I'm not going to argue with you. If you can't see the lies, my words will not convince you. As Justin said, "The truth is the truth and when the case is solved, it will be out there."

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  7. Casey Anthony was not found guilty. But most people believe she is guilty. She is afraid of people. Is that fair?
    Most people that have kept up with this case from the beginning have opinions about what happened. Sometimes our opinions differ.
    Some people believe in the death penalty and some don't.
    Some people even still like Obama.
    I don't think we are going to change each other's minds.
    And that is what makes the world go around.

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  8. I see lies in this case.
    "There were only 3 drops of blood."
    "We did nothing wrong."
    "Nothing happened to Ayla, but she disappeared."
    "It was a normal night ."
    Lots more.
    I don't have any from Courtney because she never said anything.

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    1. They've all acted weirdly, IMO. Not so much from what they've said (so very little), but what they have not done for Ayla. Were any of the people involved in Waterville and their friends and relatives ever worried about Ayla? Ayla was "adjusting". What's to get all hot and bothered about?

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  9. "NinaAugust 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM
    And I mean no offense with "control freak." I can be one, too."

    Nina, I'm sure you mean well. You do not sound like a control freak, but only one who has an indefinite idea of what happened to Ayla and therefore can't come to any conclusion. I'm not sure if yo still believe Ayla is alive, but since there are no arrests, you contend that there must be another explanation than that of what LE states and what many people have gathered from LE statements..

    I think I could dismiss all LE statements about people lying or even LE statements of the "troubling" blood found in the house belonging to Ayla -- that is, IF the DiPietros acted like other innocent people in these types of cases. They do not even begin to act concerned about Ayla. Can't even fake it. So I am convinced they don't compute as innocent bystanders of an abduction. They never have shown the least anxiety about Ayla's fate, only about themselves and their reputations. Innocent paents do not care about their reputations in their anxiety to find their missing child. See the Danielle Van Dam case in California.

    As far as Trista and Justin being in this together or having some confluence in Ayla's disappearance, perhaps from an accident, or for profit is ludicrous to me. Why wouldn't each parent call 911 if Ayla suffered an accident with both present? Did both parents want her dead for the LIP? What would be the hoped outcome for such a conspiracy as, let's say, selling Ayla for money owed to drug dealers? Or for fun and profit from an illegal adoption to some desperate couple?

    Those two working in tandem is a much larger pill to swallow than a stranger coming into such a small house and leaving with Ayla in silence with no one the wiser. All the while knowing all about the sleeping arrangements and the number of adults and toddlers in residence on that particular night (or day). Unless it was an inside job, of course

    . I could more easily believe in a stranger in from the street just winging it and escaping with a toddler (any will do) and getting away scot free. Even that scenario is more believable than Justin and Trista ploting an abduction scheme together.

    I don't any longer care what anyone else thinks, though. Put all sorts of theories on the table which, IMO, do not follow the principles of William of Ockham's razor:

    "With all things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the right one."

    A simple explanation for me would be this: There was an accident to Ayla in that house which for some reason the DiPietros felt couldn't be reported to the authorities without getting someone in trouble, maybe for neglect or abuse.. Therefore, the easiest way to handle the whole situation was to report Ayla missing from her bed. That solution works, as the DiPietros must know, in far too many cases.

    . Reinterating, everything at this point is academic. I no longer believe people on blogs trying to keep Ayla's name alive is in any way making a difference. Too much time has passed. I have to chalk Ayla's case up to "never proven" just as many other cases involving missing kids are left not unsolved, but never prosecuted for lack of a body, for lack of "slam-dunk evidence" to present to a jury, or no confessions from the POIs.

    A baby is living with mom, dad, and grandmother in an apt. in Maine. The baby is found dead with evidence on her body of multiple fractures...murdered horribly... and all three people living with the baby lawyer up, each with their own lawyer. None of the three will talk, and none is ever prosecuted for her death.

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    1. It doesn't matter what any of us think or believe. What matters is what the evidence shows. MSP said they had hundreds of pieces of evidence and I have to believe that after almost three years they have collected even more.

      If Justin, Courtney, Elisha and Phoebe are guilty of anything, it will come out. If Trista, Jessica, Ron, Becca or Jeff are guilty of anything, it will come out.

      Even in the case you referenced, eventually the truth will come out. It always does, one way or another.

      Frustrating? You betcha. But that is the way it is.

      Some day someone connected to both cases is going to talk. Their conscience will get to them, or they will be in a pickle and will need to use the information they have to get out of it. it's as simple and as complicated as that.

      I saw this on Facebook and I heartily agree:

      " All I would like is for the truth to be told and for Ayla to receive the justice her sweet body and soul deserves. And I personally do not need to know any of the answers to any of my questions. Just that justice is served and the person(s) responsible for her bloodshed and disappearance is arrested. The questions will eventually get answered."

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    2. I don't think that is always true. Some cases are never solved. Some questions are never answered.

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  10. How will the questions eventually get answered? When the case is 20+ years old and a new LE "team" of objective experts are allowed to look at the case? How many times in LE detection does this happen? If the present day investigators can't come up with enough evidence to prove Ayla is dead, why not give the case to a new team? Admit you've failed to prove a case, or the AG is gutless and demands a "slam dunk" body of evidence and let some new brains tackle the mystery before witnesses die off and the brain cells of others deteriorate with old age!

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  11. Does anyone know what Grace is talking about? I don't follow.

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    1. She just deleted the discussion from her blog. Shady.

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    2. There is still discussion on the blog, just not on regular posts. Click on the discussion page. Nothing shady about it. Grow up.

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    3. No comments on the discussion page. The comments are gone.

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    4. I saw that too. All comments removed.

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    5. That's what I meant- she removed the discussion from the discussion post.

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    6. Hey everyone, thanks for the heads up. Seems a database may be corrupted on Wordpress. My techs are working on it and we will have all the old comments back and working as soon as possible.

      No comments were deleted, I can see everything on the back end, so I dunno what happened but we will get it fixed! Thanks again for letting me Anon.

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    7. No Grace, not everything.

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    8. Grace is stating that someone will soon be under arrest in Ayla's case, but Grace cannot reveal who it is until the arrest is made. I think I got that right.

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    9. I meant to add that Grace thinks this person who will be under arrest is a trusted friend or associate of Justin's who may be in trouble with the police. He/she will use knowledfge of what happened to Ayla to get a better deal from the either the cops or the prosecutor.

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    10. I didn't take it to mean an associate of Justin's but someone associated with Trista.......

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    11. So does anyone know who Justin confided in that might be indicted?

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    12. That person has already been arrested. I have not said who this person is affiliated with and I do not know if this person has ANY pertinent information regarding what happened to Ayla, hence the "what if" post. However, if my source is correct, this person may know enough to put pressure on Justin & Co., which includes Trista, in my opinion.

      As Penny pointed out, I may not have all the answers, I never claimed to. But too much has gone on around this missing child to believe it's all coincidence.

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    13. I took it to mean that this person who has already been arrested is in trouble for something that person has done which is illegal, not because he or she has anything to do with Ayla missing, but that they may know something about Ayla's case and can "trade" that info for a better deal.

      So whom do we know that is an associate of Justin's or Trista's who has been arrested?

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    14. Does Justin know a Linda Batissa of Waterville?

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  12. She implies that she has new info about the case, but cannot divulge what it is because... she has to dot her "i's" and cross her "t's"? Verify the INFO with her source? Something like that.

    Of course Grace may not have all the answers. She writes that Jeff Hanson and I are one and the same person, so Grace's planets may be colliding with her many houses.I dunno.

    Pennyauntie

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  13. Lee
    September 5, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    When the full story comes out, I wonder how close it may come to scenarios that have been discussed with Ayla’s case?

    Is Lee seriously comparing Ayla's disappearance with Bella's murder? Unbelievable.

    Lee, are you saying you think that Ayla may have been taken by a family acquaintance, raped, murdered and buried? It sure sounds like it.

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  14. Reread what I said. Can you point to a scenario in which such was said about Ayla? I can't. When I made that comment the story was not yet out. I have yet to read that Bella was raped.

    "When the full story comes out, I wonder how close it may come to scenarios that have been discussed with Ayla’s case?"

    This comment obviously say that the full story may or may not be close to what has been discussed in relationship to Ayla. As you can see, I said " I WONDER how close it may come", not that that is what I think happened to Ayla.

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  15. "When the full story comes out, I wonder how close it may come to scenarios that have been discussed with Ayla’s case?"

    Sorry, Lee I'm slow. When WHAT full story comes out? Ayla's or Bella's?

    People on Facebook who are neighbors of Bella's family are alreading calling Bella's story one of a breakdown of her family and drugs,drugs, drugs of course.

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  16. What was the date Courtney wrote on her FB page that she was single again? TIA

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  17. From Pennyauntie:

    I cannot see any friend or relative of the DiPietros speaking out even if they did know something. Would they be standing up for the lofty ideal of social justice for a child they didn’t even know? When a loved one (Justin? Elisha? Phoebe?) might be held responsible for an “accident” to Ayla which nobody intended?

    That leaves Courtney’s relatives, if they do know anything. Would they stand up for Ayla? Again, a child they didn’t know vs. the freedom of a relative they love might be held responsible? Perhaps if they could “trade” something for a lighter sentence forthemselves?

    To play the fairness game, I should ask if any of Trista’s relatives might spill any beans if it was made worth their while, but to me that is a waste of time, unless you believe, like one blogger in particular, that Trista and Justin “were in this together” for the insurance money and then everything went wrong and Trista went into denial with the cops believing her at first, and then definitely thinking her a suspect later on.

    Could you be selling the friends and relatives a little short? Surely there is one of them with morals and a conscience. Conversely, you may be giving them too much credit, if they are that morally reprehensible, why wouldn't they toss their friend or relative under the bus for a lighter sentence, or even a drop of the charges?

    Can you have it both ways?

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    1. Could you be selling the friends and relatives a little short? Surely there is one of them with morals and a conscience. Conversely, you may be giving them too much credit, if they are that morally reprehensible, why wouldn't they toss their friend or relative under the bus for a lighter sentence, or even a drop of the charges?

      Can you have it both ways?



      This was my response to Penny, not sure if that was clear above.

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    2. I think that tossing somebody under for a lighter sentence would be the only way a "loyal" friend or relative might reveal something of importance to the investigation evidence.

      But how many friends and relatives of any of the principles (Di Pietros, Reynolds, Tudelas and Roberts) involved in the Ayla story know the real deal? I think the truth is confined to those who were on the scene of the "disappearance", or shortly after that mysterious vanishing, of Ayla Reynolds.

      Who are those with intimate knowledge in "the taking of Ayla"as Phoebe described it? Your guess is as good as mine. We do not know when Ayla vanished. Was it the middle of the night on the 16th/17th? We have a cast of supposed characterts on the scene for that night.

      Did what happenn to Ayla occur earlier on the afternoon of the 16th when Justin was said to be "hanging out" with Ayla, Christmas shopping?

      Did it occur earlier in the morning of the 16th when Derek was at the Waterville house supervising his son's "playdate" with Ayla?

      Or, did Ayla disappear earlier in the week after Dec. 8th, later reported by Trista to be the last time she could talk to Ayla?
      Did it occur before Justin missed his appointment with Ayla's bone specialist on the 16th (or was it the 12th?) after telling Trista on the day before that he wasn't going to keep the appointment?
      He told his ex-roomies, according toTori, that he missed the appointment due to a hangover. Then when he told Trista he wasn't going to make the appointment, did he expect a hangover, or was he just be "difficult" with Trista?

      If we knew when Ayla disappeared, we might have an interesting range of those who "knew" something pertinent. And who, thus, might develop a conscience at last. Or, perhaps be willing to trade that info for a lighter sentence.

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  18. If the Dipietros and friends had a heart: if they knew what happened why didn't they speak up? This will not make life better. Hiding the truth will not go well.

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    1. Some may believe in the story as told to LE by ones who are close friends or relatives.
      Some may know that Ayla encountered an accident and, thus, are willing to absolve anybody close or related from legal punishment since the accident was unpremeditated.

      Some may not care how the child came to be "taken",or even hurt, because they did not know Ayla or care what happened to her. She was just a kid who can easily be replaced, but their friend's or relative's freedom cannot be replaced..
      Some might not want to get involved in anything which would add to their history with the police and so remain silent out of self-preservation. Don't make waves which could topple one's own canoe.

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    2. The friends that once believed the story told to LE should realize now that the story is not the complete truth.
      If Ayla is found and this goes to trial, will they be charged if they know something and did not come forward?
      They should worry about that.

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  19. Something that has been puzzling me...why wouldn't Courtney testify at Justin's hearing regarding the alleged assault? If it wasn't an assault, which is what Katie claims Courtney said, why wouldn't she take the opportunity to explain exactly that in court? Why refuse to help either Justin or police? The outcome was the same, I guess, the charges were dropped, I just think it's suspicious that she wouldn't testify. Could it be because she didn't want to explain what they were discussing or fighting about? I can't think of any other reason...

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    1. In Maine if the officer witnesses it, then it is automatically domestic assault even if Courtnety begged them not to press charges. I don't know the particulars in this instance but it is likely that the state didn't intend to call her knowing she would damage their case and claim no abuse took place and that Justin was just being targeted. Justin apparently pled guilty and didn't have a trial so therefore waived his right to call any witnesses. Just my take on it all...

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    2. Wrong again, Tori. Justin plead guilty to violating his release conditions. The charges for the domestic assault charges were dropped, claiming witness reluctance, even though they didn't need Courtney's testimony, because the assault, as you pointed out, was witnessed by LE.

      http://www.mainenewssimply.com/content/wcsh-tv/assault-charge-against-justin-dipietro-dropped

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    3. Ok so I ammend, he pled guilty to violating conditions of release. Regardless, he didn't have a trial so no need to call witnesses and if the state declined to go further with charges claiming witness reluctance they probably knew Justin's lawyer could just claim he was being targeted since she was apparently going to be a hostile witness for the state. Not sure how I'm wrong again. You pretty much just commented what I said above with one clarification, the state didn't bring forth charges for the DV.

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  20. In the case of Justin's domestic assault charges being dropped: does anybody else get the idea that Stokes, or other prosecutors in Maine, do not want to prosecute anybody for Ayla's probable neglect, abuse, or death because it would not be a slam dunk case in court? Especially without Ayla's body being found. Or enough blood evidence to prove she couldn't have survived.

    When the prosecution saw that CR was not going to testify against Justin, and the case would not be a slam dunk, but likely one of "the officer said/Courtney said", the prosecution dropped the charges. Not worth going to trial over...the cost and manpower and such which would have been involved in prosecution. I think that's how Stokes felt in Ayla's case. No use going for arrest and trial..

    Still in a trial for Justin's assault, Courtney might have been asked all sorts of questions under oath, What might have come out about Ayla? Courtney was no way going to place herself in that position. And an "I refuse to answer on the grounds it might incriminate me" would have been a reply very interesting to anyone listening.

    I think CR wants nothing to do with anything connected to Ayla. And Justin, even after pushing her around is not someone to reconnect with even if he did assault her.

    He is, after all, connected to that kid...you know, what's-her-name...and that night. That night.

    Smart cookie, Courtney..

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