Friday, June 20, 2014

Continued for Discussion

I know many can't see comments over 200. Please continue discussion here. For the record yes my brother in law did say he failed his test and also he was in Portland either the day before she went missing or the day before she was reported missing. I don't know the exact day but assuming it coincided with when he was spotted on videotape at 7-11.

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  1. Was Justin there 2 days in a row?
    Didn't you say that at one time? I thought so, but I have read so much I am not sure:-)

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    1. I have no idea if he was there two days in a row or not, Trista had said at one time he was there the morning she was reported missing but it was later claimed to be misinformation

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    2. Anon, is your head spinning yet? I warned you it was a mess :-)

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    3. It is a mess. Do you think it's a mess because people are making mistakes or do you think there is information the police don't want public?

      Justin supposedly got his mattress from Portland either the 15th or 16th towards evening, maybe 5-7 ish, depending on who is believed.

      There was supposedly a poker party/bath salts use at Phoebe's house the night of either the 15th or 16th.

      Derek was supposedly at Phoebe's house and saw Ayla watching Yo Gabba Gabba one of those nights.

      Neighbors reported a party on the 16th which would probably mean a lot more people there than those we have been told about. What would cause neighbors to think there was a party? Probably cars, noise, music, people coming and going.

      What changes when you switch the dates of events from one date to the other? What does it mean in terms of Ayla's death/disappearance?

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    4. IMO, it's mess because people are taking something they heard, combining it with something they think they know, and stating it as fact. Then those "facts" get added to the interpretation of something else that was heard, and on and on it goes. Personally, I take each thing that is said individually and try to trace it back to the person who originally brought the story to the blogs. From there, I start asking how reliable this person has been in the past, how reliable is the source they got it from, and is the person bringing the story known for adding their own interpretations. Try it. You may be surprised what you find. I'm happy to help if you're up for it.

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    5. I am curious what you think is the truth. And I think your right about having to follow it back to the source.

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    6. Until something credible comes along to make me think otherwise, I'm going with Justin getting his bed on the 15th only because it's been the most consistently quoted across multiple sources. If someone has something credible that places him in Portland on the evening of the 16th, I'm all ears (or eyes, I suppose.)

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    7. I am concerned about a few things that look to have been covered up. An early story in the press about Justin taking a trip the night of the 16th poofed. Suddenly any trip is the 15th. But the press story is backed up by an anon tipster. And what is most unusual is the press usually corrects a story by issuing a corrected version, not by disappearing the story. So I am suspicious, but I don't feel I know enough to draw a firm conclusion about what happened when. I suspect police asked that the story about the trip on the 16th be removed. And I have to ask myself why they would want to hide this particular fact if it is a fact?

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    8. Anon 6:54 read the comment sections to the blog posts listed above (the first set of comments on this post). I don't know what you think is credible or not, but there is discussion there of the report of Justin being in Portland the 16th.

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    9. Sorry, I don't know for which blog post you want me to read the comments. Can you link, please?

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    10. If you believe what Trista and Jeff say, LE have proof that Justin and Ayla were alive and well until I believe it was 8pm that night. I am assuming either neighbor testimony or video surveillance. I believe it was said, Justin was out Xmas shopping with Ayla. If that is the case and they were in Waterville or the close surrounding towns on the 16th then it is highly unlikely they were in Portland on the 16th and instead went to retrieve the bed on the 15th. However, if I recall correctly and please excuse me I have not been actively blogging about Ayla for some time so I no longer have the dates and times on the tip of my tongue, but the video surveillance of Justin in Portland was at 2am on the 15th so he likely got to portland on sometime the 14th. My question is did he stay in portland all day the 15th and retrieve his bed before he left for Waterville and if so where was Ayla? If we believe Trista than we have to assume she was alive and well. Did Justin make two trips to portland? Where was he getting his gas money? Although portland is only an hr tops from Waterville and wouldn't be a big deal to travel if unemployed and not much else to do in the day to fill your time but the price of gas is expensive especially for an SUV like Justin drove at the time to make multiple trips to portland in a short period of time. Maybe none of this is even relevant but I would like to know the answers. I think a lot about what possibly could have happened to Ayla could be uncovered if we knew his movements from the 14th on

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    11. "If you believe what Trista and Jeff say, LE have proof that Justin and Ayla were alive and well until I believe it was 8pm that night."

      Tori, Did you learn this from private conversation? I have not heard it put quite this way. What I recall is Jeff saying they asked Trista's detective if it was possible Ayla disappeared earlier in the week and they were told no, police had (unspecified) information she was alive on the 16th. I remember a lot of speculation about whether that was Derek's say-so, some witness unknown to the blog world, or some kind of surveillance video. Justin went out that night (16th) without Ayla at 8, allegedly to get wine, so any surveillance video of that trip would not be useful in determining Ayla's status at that time...

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    12. Tori, respectfully, I was under the impression that you had more inside information concerning Justin's whereabouts than any of us. Since I believe you were the original source from Justin being in Portland on the 15th to clean out his belongings, I'm not sure what anyone else can offer you.

      CG-I believe Jeff says he was told "the rumors are false," or something similar, in answer to his questions concerning Ayla going missing prior to the night in question.

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    13. Steve McCausland has stated that MSP is going on the premise that Ayla disappeared "that night", Dec. 16-17. (Nancy Grace show).
      In several comments McCausland has made about the case, he has referred to "that night".

      What Jeff said was...
      ...".Hello Masquerade, JohnP, that was an assumption on my part that Courtney would be watching the kids while Justin went to the store for wine (and the trip for wine is what he told MSP, they did not tell me if it was verified with cameras). I do not know when Ayla was put to bed, ..and I have no idea were Elisha and Gabbie was during all of this."

      From this statement, it doesn't sound to me like Jeff is sure where Ayla was when Justin went to get wine. (If he did).

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    14. Adding to what you posted, A1, Jeff also said this:

      "Justin has told the press that he put Ayla to bed at 8pm, the exact same time that he told MSP that Courtney arrived at his house... and shortly after, he went to the store for wine.

      Whether she watched the kids in the basement or was there to watch the kids while he left is assumed. I simply cannot remember now."

      CG-I don't know what "shortly after" means, so I'm not even comfortable saying that Justin went to get wine at 8pm.

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    15. Yeah, I really wish Jeff and Trista had taken notes when they talked to investigators.

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    16. Yes it is only human that as we tell something we have been told that it changes a little more each time it is repeated.Not saying it is intentional it just happens.

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    17. Anonymous at 6:00 says: "IMO, it's mess because people are taking something they heard, combining it with something they think they know, and stating it as fact. Then those "facts" get added to the interpretation of something else that was heard, and on and on it goes. Personally, I take each thing that is said individually and try to trace it back to the person who originally brought the story to the blogs. From there, I start asking how reliable this person has been in the past, how reliable is the source they got it from, and is the person bringing the story known for adding their own interpretations. Try it. You may be surprised what you find. I'm happy to help if you're up for it."
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  2. M.M. & Lee,

    My sincere condolences on the loss of your beloved pet & friend. I'm sure he brought you joy and many fond memories to hold dear.

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    1. Thank you A1.

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    2. Lee and MM...to echo A1, I too wish to express my condolences on the loss of "David." I know the hurt...it just sucks. May fond memories of your beloved dog sustain you during this difficult time.

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    3. Thanks McKee.

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  3. This post and comments made after make it sound like he was there at the apartment on the 15 & 16
    http://unitedforayla.com/more-lies-from-justin-dipietro-text-messages-round-2-part-1/

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  4. I found this old comment on U4A. Does anyone remember seeing this on the supposed source site or anywhere else? What struck me, something we couldn't have known when it was first published, is that the 10 o'clock supposed arrival time coincides with the supposed check on Ayla time in the 911 call. Suppose Elisha did get home at 10 and was asked not to wake Ayla so tip-toed into the room in the dark to get anything she needed for her daughter... never saw Ayla but assumed she was there....

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    July 12, 2012 at 10:55 pm
    I read that Elisha “came” home at 10 that night. I don’t recall where I read that…
    I think that I read it on the TLLOM “blog”.
    Has anyone else heard this statement..from Elisha?

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    1. If Elisha only arrived home at 10:00 p.m., then only Courtney and Justin were in the house on the evening of the 16th... for dinner and such? Or did Courtney arrive too late for dinner and was there only to watch Ayla, or, perhaps put her to bed at 8:00 for Justin who had to run an errand for wine?

      We have never heard of any schedules for anybody that night. It's all a deep mystery exacerbated by LE who refuse to get into time and motions of anyone on record.

      What about the party the neighbors supposedly heard? Were the neighbors mixing up the party nights and heard the poker party on the 15th instead of the 16th? It seems unlikely that there was a party on both nights.

      If there was a poker party, and it was held on the 15th, then Justin traveled from Portland earlier in the day (with bed?) to Waterville to be there for the Poker party, where, incidentally Derek saw Ayla watching Yo Gabba that night.

      Did Derek stay overnight on the 15th? Or did he go home and then come back the next day on the 16th (he and his mom disagree on just when during the day) with his son for the playdate?

      The 16th was a fairly busy day it sounds like. Justin hanging out with Ayla, and Christmas shopping (online or out in the town?) Did Derek's wife ever mention the playdate between Ayla and her son, perhaps on Facebook or elsewhere?

      I think the cops early on decided that the principles' actions and stories did not add up and pass any veracity tests.



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    2. That statement concerning Elisha is new to me. I don't think we've heard much of anything concerning her movements that day, only that she was home on the night in question and checked on Ayla at 10pm.

      The only source for a party on the 16th that I've heard was some comments on newspaper sites. If there's something else out there, I'd like to see it. Ms. Redeagle, to my knowledge, never mentioned a party and we've certainly had no eyewitness accounts of anyone who was supposedly there. The closest thing that I can recall was a comment by someone claiming they heard from someone who heard from someone else-I can't recall it all, but it was a long way from being a verified account.

      The source for the "poker party" was AshleyP, if my memory serves. I don't recall how the word "party" was ever introduced since, again IIRC, Ashley merely stated that Derek told her he was at Justin's for a poker game with friends and that Ayla was there. This was supposed to be two nights before Ayla's disappearance, and it's always fuzzy, at least to me, whether the person speaking is using the date of the 16th or 17th as the disappearance date.

      I have no idea what Derek's wife has mentioned online or elsewhere.

      I also don't know what LE thinks of these stories, but I do know they are only publicly concerned about the night of the 16th.

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    3. BTW-all the poker talk made me wonder if Justin was any good at the game. It could be where he was getting the gas money Tori was wondering about.

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    4. "If there's something else out there, I'd like to see it. Ms. Redeagle, to my knowledge, never mentioned a party and we've certainly had no eyewitness accounts of anyone who was supposedly there. The closest thing that I can recall was a comment by someone claiming they heard from someone who heard from someone else-I can't recall it all, but it was a long way from being a verified account."
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      You are correct. Ms. Redeagle (now deceased) and her partner, Mr. Roy made no mention of a "party" on the night of the 16th. They surely would have known...their home practically hugged the DiPietro house. But most telling to me...Ms. Redeagle gave no indication in her statements to the press of troubles at the DiPietro home. No mention of crying toddlers, domestic upheavals, drug activity...just stating seeing/hearing Justin singing "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star" to Ayla.

      Of course, she and Mr. Roy may have shared information with LE that isn't for public consumption. But I doubt it...

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    5. Re: any party, assuming she were home, it seems like Ms. Redeagle would have noticed. But her lack of statements regarding abuse don't mean much to me. Abuse so often occurs behind closed doors. Neighbors and others are often shocked as can be that "that nice man" killed his wife, kids, was abusing them for years. I'm not saying Justin or anyone in that house was an abuser, just that if one of them were, I wouldn't count on a neighbor knowing it.

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    6. No misinterpreting what another neighbor of the DiPietros' feels.

      "Penny Rafuse, who lives a few houses east of the DiPietro home on the opposite side of the street, said the pain neighbors feel has not waned.

      “I totally agree with law enforcement,” Rafuse said. “Someone in that house knows what happened to her on that night. They can run. They can hide. They can put up ‘no-trespassing’ signs on the lawn. It is just a matter of time.”

      http://www.centralmaine.com/2013/12/15/ayla_reynolds_still_missing_from_waterville_home_2_years__20_searches_after_she_disappeared_/

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    7. I heard the family right next door to them was in poor health and in the hospital,at the time Ayla disappeared.

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    8. I'm more interested in what, if anything, Ms. Rafuse spoke of within days of the incident rather than two years later.

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    9. At one of the first vigils, the one on Violette Ave., some of the neighbors at the vigil did speak on camera. I recall one couple saying how bad they felt. If only they had known Ayla was missing, they could have done something to help look for her. Other neighbors spoke to not knowing that Ayla lived there. One woman said she thought the kidnapped child must be Gabby and was surprised to learn of another child in the house. I don't think the DiPietros mixed with their neighbors. I'd like to find that video.

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  5. "Until something credible comes along to make me think otherwise, I'm going with Justin getting his bed on the 15th only because it's been the most consistently quoted across multiple sources."
    AND LE has Justin on tape getting cigs early morning (two-ish a.m.) on the 15th in Portland. It would make some kind of sense that he also picked up his bed on the 15th, presumably later on that day.

    Do we know who was with him in that early morning purchase? LE evidently was interested in who with with Justin.

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    1. That whole time is a blur for me because there was all kinds of unfounded speculation concerning a January 2012 armed robbery at the same location. Wild theories about a possibly left-handed Lance or Justin robbing the location because they were desperate to repay a drug debt after Brianna's drugs were confiscated or some other nonsense...crazy stuff.

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  6. "who was with Justin"

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  7. ThanksTori, for commenting! I echo your question"Where was Ayla?"when Justin was making all these trips to Portland and back? I assume she was being looked after by Phoebe or Elisha in the evening hours, but what about during the day when Justin was in Portland? Both Elisha and Phoebe were gone during the day, either to work or school.

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  8. We heard rumors that LE offered to show the slide show to HT. I wonder and I bet many others do too if she has spoken about this other than the no comment we heard about. How does she feel about all of this now? Does she feel still, that Ayla is alive?

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    1. Wasn't it Heidi's sister who confirmed that Heidi was asked to view the slide show and declined... only to deny it a short time later, claiming she misunderstood ?

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    2. Yes, it was, Anon 12:03.

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  9. So, are people still talking on the llom site?
    If so, what is said about the evidence not being looked at?

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    1. I don't know.

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    2. Whoa! Heidi's sister got into the act? When and where did sis make her comment?

      If Heidi did refuse to see the slideshow, I guess there really must have been a slideshow!

      It sounds like Heidi might have been saying, "I know the truth, don't confuse me with the facts."

      Heidi knew more than the cops who investigated. She was not shy about pointing out the errors of their ways and asserting she knew the real facts...especially about the only three...or was it only four... drops of blood.

      No wonder she did not want to see any evidence of blood from luminol, or perhaps blood spots in other rooms of the house. Heidi had taken so much on her lay defense council's shoulders.Poor Heidi! It must have been a blow to her unassailable position as Know-it-All.

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    3. The comments were several months ago on FFA, I think. It might've even been in the last days of U4A, I'm not sure.

      She made comments, then retracted comments. It happens all the time in this case.

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    4. BTW-why so much venom for Heidi for thinking she knows more that LE? Doesn't everybody?

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    5. No. I think most people think LE knows a lot more than they're saying

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    6. Okay, Anon 3:22. So all the people who think Ayla was missing before the 16th, or that others were in the house that night, or that Ayla's broken arm was due to abuse, or that LE should make an arrest...none of them think they more than LE? Have you read The Case for Trista?

      Bottom line, everyone has their doubts about LE.

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    7. "BTW-why so much venom for Heidi for thinking she knows more that LE? Doesn't everybody?"

      No, do you?

      Does Heidi also know more than the FBI? Not saying that all LE is error free.That would be nonsensical, but Heidi was an outsider who was told by the DiPietros what happened. She came into the house only to help Phoebe and Elisha clean up the "mess" the police left when investigating Phoebe's own "abducted" grandchild.

      Poor Phoebe -- better the police had not investigated! Such a hassle! All that blue powder. Heidi took a lot upon herself to intrepret what she thought she saw after the crime, and after the forensic guys had been there and "messed" up the house.

      So yeah, I'd trust the FBI and MSP before I'd trust Heidi and her ditzy chronicler, Angela Harry, and the so-called close friends and relatives who also "knew it all" on the very "private" TLLOM club.

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    8. I think Heidi believed what she wanted to believe. Believe what her son told her.
      But what does she believe now? She said she didn't want to view the slideshow? Wow. That says a lot. If true.

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    9. Anon 3:50, (this is the first of the two Anon 3:22s :) ) - I don't think those people you mentioned think they KNOW more than LE. I think they think LE knows but isn't saying many of those things. About the arm, maybe some think they know more than LE but also they might just think LE didn't look close enough at the beginning but now knows or at least has reason to suspect more. Also LE is looking at proving things to a legal standard, not just knowing them.

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    10. The AG, as legal defender of Maine DHHS, is never going to bring this case to a court trial...not even a plea deal...nuthin'! DHHS has a big part to play in this whole case...and there is a conflict of interests, here.

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    11. I was listening to a radio show on this case on Facebook. A person being interviwed on the show claimed that Justin was involved with an accident with Ayla in her stroller. The reception was so bad due to storms, I could barely hear some words. This same perosn claimed that the doctor's examining Ayla's arm said to both Trista and Justin, "The injury to this arm did not happen as you have described it."

      Anybody able to chime in on this claims?

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    12. Anon 5:47, a stroller? I've never heard anything like that. Is this a recent radio show?

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    13. Never heard the stroller claim but have heard the dr. bit. I think it's probably true. Whether the broken arm was abuse or not, it is a type of injury often the result of abuse.

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    14. On one of the Facebooks devoted to Ayla, a link was given to an online radio program which took place the end of May. It was a program where Jeff said a few words, but most of the talk was given by a woman, evidently, in the forefront of keeping Ayla's name in the news. A few people did call in to the show to ask questions or add something. One such caller said that it was a little known fact that Justin had also had an accident while pushing Ayla down some steps in her stroller. The same woman mentioned the ER doctor's admonition to both Trista and Justin that Ayla's broken arm did not fit their description of how the accident happened.

      Here's the link to the radio show, but it is an excruciationg listen...as I said because of the storms...and an everpresent commercial. Also the host loves to hear himself talk. Not a good choice for an good interview. The discussion.radio show is in the right column.

      https://www.facebook.com/BringBabyAylaAndBabyLisaHome

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    15. A stroller accident on steps? Sure someone wasn't confused about the broken arm incident, thinking it involved a stroller?

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  10. "I think Heidi believed what she wanted to believe. Believe what her son told her. "

    Probably, but would you do the same as she in becoming Justin's defender, even if he was an old pal of your son's? Would you put forth a story which you had to retract time and time again because what the DiPietros were telling you was always changing or non-existant? Would you place yourself in a position to disseminate facts as if you were there as a witness when everything happened? Would you go so far as to publicly call the police incompetant? For a friend of your son's?

    I can think of only two reasons why Derek's boyhood chum, Justin, would claim this much attention and devotion that you become his lawyer/ substitute mother in this type of situation:

    . 1.) You always want to be on the inside of what's going on in the investigation and to do that you have to become one of the DiPietro family and even control them sequestered from the press for a couple of weeks to "set" their stories. 2.) Because your son is involved in some way with what happened to Ayla or the cover up afterwards. Your job is to protect your son.

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  11. "I also don't know what LE thinks of these stories, but I do know they are only publicly concerned about the night of the 16th."
    "Publicly." Again the operative word! They may not spread the news that they are concerned about the week leading up to Ayla's "being taken". They may not want any suspects to know that they (LE) are interested in other days and nights before Ayla went missing.

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    1. That's right. Include the maternal family in that list of possible suspects under your theory since they were also told that Ayla didn't go missing prior to the 16th.

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    2. ? Me too! Don't get it.

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  12. I can not stop thinking about Ayla. So much time has passed and I still feel obsessed with this case. No matter whether you believe she is alive or dead so many of us just want her found.
    I believe Justin knows where she is and what happened to her. Time is running out on arrests. What do you think happened to Ayla?
    The Dipietros have not denied the slide show. I think they would have if they could have.
    Why won't people come forward with any little thing about the last days before Ayla was reported missing? Anything ? Did you see anyone in that family? Did you see Ayla?
    And those that think the Dipietros are innocent, can you tell us why you believe this? How would they not know what happened?

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  13. Would Heidi defend Justin to the point she has just because of the lip?
    If so, the family business would have been better off if she remained silent.

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    1. I can't place much faith that the LIP has much to do with Ayla's disapperance. In the first place, how could Justin collect if Ayla's body is not found? In the second place, it seems a fairly small sum over which to murder somebody.

      But I think Heidi may be involved because of Derek and the LIP. It doesn't look so good. Take out a policy and, poof, the insured goes missing after a couple of months?
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    2. maybe she got involved to explain the LIP was innocent and one thing let to another and before she knew it she was so caught up, it was hard to untangle herself.

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    3. Now that makes sense.

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    4. "maybe she got involved to explain the LIP was innocent and one thing let to another and before she knew it she was so caught up, it was hard to untangle herself."

      I don't know. it seems a pretty deliberate thought-out campaign when one becomes a lay lawyer for Justin, even accusing the police of dereliction of duty. Unless, of course, one's own freedom, or some close realtive's livlihood or freedom were at stake.

      Again the question must be raised. Why did Heidi take in all the people for two weeks saying thay were homeless, no where to go? Courtney certainly wasn't homeless. I assume that Justin could have stayed with CR in Portland, so he wasn't homeless. Phoebe and Elisha had relatives. I don't think Heidi and Phoebe moved in the same social circles and were dear friends.

      It looks to me as if Heidi wanted everybody involved within her jurisdiction during those first few days. Did she give seminars in how to handle the situation? Phoebe kind of went out of control in those first few hours. She and the rest may have needed a steadier hand at the tiller.

      Justin stayed a further time with Heidi after everyone else went back to their respective homes. Was he just a couch potato enjoying her TV and home cooking, or was it because Heidi could front for him with the press? Another way to protect him from the press?

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    5. Good God, this has been talked to death.

      The Dipietro family needed to be in Waterville for questioning and they couldn't be in their own home. Justin talked to Derek and Derek told his mother and then she invited them all to stay at her house. Her house was plenty big enough for everyone. Is there something inherently wrong with them all wanting to be together somewhere? If it's so damned wrong, ask why Jeff took Becca and Trista in after Ayla went missing. It's simple. In bad times, good people step up and offer to help. Quit making it into something ugly.

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    6. Speaking of the Tudelas, when Justin called Derek, before calling 911, Derek was in Winslow. Isn't that where Heidi lives? And much closer to Waterville than his own house? It seems like one more coincidence, that night of all nights Derek crashed with his parents, or he got up and went there early in the morning when Justin calls him for advice before calling 911. And then the whole Waterville group ends up camping out at Heidi's for the next couple weeks. How many strange coincidences can one case have, and how many arent coincidences at all?

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    7. I thought Derek and wife and son lived with the elder Tudelas. I don't know how I came by that assumption.

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    8. anon 9:49 This whole case has been talked to death. People should move on and let LE handle it. Talking on FFA the same things over and over are not helping. The web sites have already served the purpose they were created for time to stop the gossip and get a life. The Reynolds family made that choice a while ago.

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    9. You're so right, Anon 9:49. Peace out.

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    10. Why does talk of the Tudelas always bring on a chorus of nothing left in this case to talk about, I wonder? If you don't think there's anything worth talking about, don't bother to come here. No skin off your teeth if others who are interested in talking continue their conversation, isn't that right?

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    11. Quite a few of us are. Not going to let this go with out Ayla being found.

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    12. Agreed Anon 1:13. Do you also see sensitivity when Derek and his family are brought up?

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    13. There is really quite a bit to still talk about. How has this effected the families? Will they tell all they know to finally get their lives back?
      This has got to be miserable for all involved.
      Just tell what you know and this will end and we will shut up when it is over.

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    14. " Do you also see sensitivity when Derek and his family are brought up?"

      I think the same can be said of Trista, Jessica, and Jeff.

      Anonymous 12:26, you said;
      "The web sites have already served the purpose they were created for ...."

      Not to bash your opinion at all. I think I understand your point.

      Just out of curiosity though, in your opinion, what do you think the purpose of the websites were/ are?
      Did they meet the purpose they were created for?

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    15. "Sensitivity." That's probably true. I tend to get a little sensitive when people continue to lob accusations against a lady whose greatest crime was kindness.

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    16. Whatever her motives may have been she spread misinformation as if it were fact and made both her and her son look bad.

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    17. You mean in the same way Jeff did?

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    18. Ai I think in the beginning They were to keep Aylas name out there and create awareness. Now it seems they are only to declare all out attacks on anyone related to a DiPietro or friend of the family. I do not know either family, I don't think a lot of people that blog do either. Yet the screams of a few have many convinced the DiPietro family and anyone associated with them as no good murderers and liars. I don't think that kind of talk honors Ayla at all.jmo

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    19. A1 above sorry

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    20. It was LE that labeled the Dipietros as liars.
      Jeff has come forward to admit mistakes.
      I never heard Heidi say she misspoke.
      Does she still says 3-4 drops of blood?
      Something happened to ayla in that house and she is missing.
      They know more.

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    21. When you say or do something intentionally it is not a mistake.Everything he did and said was intentional he said it was a mistake when he got caught lying.

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    22. Very nicely said, Anon 6:19, and I couldn't agree more.

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    23. Anonymous 6:19,

      Thank you, and I did & do understand your point.

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    24. I wonder if Ayla's Timeline II is going to have any of Jeff's "mistakes"?

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    25. Mistakes or corrections, Jeff and the Reynolds have never been targeted by LE as liars and withholding information on Ayla's non "abduction"

      Deflection, by the DP supporters as per usual. Look there, not here! It's such an old game.

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  14. Other missing Maine Children and Teens.
    Excerpt from

    Bon State Maine
    June 25,2014


    "Since 1971, seven Maine children reported missing have not been found.


    Aside from [Nicole] Cable, the most recent case of a child missing for a significant length of time is Ayla Reynolds, who was last seen 18 months ago.

    Reynolds was 20 months old when she was reported missing from her father’s Waterville home on Dec. 17, 2011. McCausland said on Friday there have been no new developments in the case. Police continue to investigate her disappearance, although they have stated they do not think she will be found alive.

    Ayla Reynolds’ disappearance is not the only open missing child case in Maine.

    Douglas Charles Chapman, then 3, of Alfred was reported missing June 2, 1971; Cathy Marie Moulton, 16, of Portland was reported missing Sept. 24, 1971; Kurt Ronald Newton, 4, of Manchester was reported missing Sept. 1, 1975; Bernard Ross, 18, of Ashland was reported missing May 12, 1977; and Kimberly Ann Moreau, 17, of Jay was reported missing May 11, 1986.

    Chapman was last seen playing by a sandpile about 25 yards from his home in Alfred while his mother was inside on the phone and his father was at work, according to aMaine State Police website dedicated to missing Mainers.

    Moulton was last seen in downtown Portland, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children’s website.

    Newton wandered away from his family’s campsite at the Chain of Ponds Public Reserve Land near Coburn Gore on the Quebec border, according to media reports. He was last seen riding his tricycle at the campsite while his mother was out of sight washing muddy shoes.

    Moreau was last seen in the company of an individual she met earlier in the day and foul play is suspected, the state police website states.

    Two older Maine teenagers who disappeared years ago also remain unaccounted for.

    Bonnie Ledford, 19, of Dedham, who went missing in 1980, and Angel Antonio Torres, 19, of the Saco-Biddeford area, who was reported missing by his family on May 24, 1999, are listed on the state police website.

    Foul play is suspected in both cases."

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  15. Over 4,000 have signed the press for procicution. Most in maine.
    So I don't think there is much of a chance that this will be forgotten.

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  16. Perhaps Ayla is one child too many who have been "disappeared" and people are just sick of it and the parents who get away with it!

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  17. Tit for tat... not a very effective communication tool. Your desire to distract from the subject at hand is telling. Subject at hand = Tudelas. Why did Heidi tell anyone who would listen there were only 3/4 drops of blood when she must have seen a lot more if she went into the house like she said she did to help the DiPietros clean up after police released the crime scene. Why didn't she retract what she said now that she knows it is wrong? Why didn't she agree to see the crime scene photos at the request of police? Doesn't she want to help them solve the case?

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    1. About the blood...Heidi was talking about what she saw, right? How do you know and why do you assume she's lying? Even if you believe TC4A, you do realize that most of those blood spots were on objects, yes? Don't you think LE would've taken those from the home for processing? What would she have to retract if what she saw was exactly what she stated? I also don't recall Heidi saying that LE wanted her to see crime scene photos, and I surely don't remember LE stating it themselves.

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    2. She was in the DiPietro basement. There was blood spray on the basement wall and floor. Maybe she wasn't very observant though, just determined to have people believe whichever story, 3 drops, 4 drops, penpoint size, she saw them, she didn't see them.... and her own sister said she was asked to view the slideshow but declined (then retracted what she said later) as did police to Trista and the folks she was with at the time ... But play the game... she thought there were a few drops... she hears TC4A...doesn't she have some concern? for Ayla? for her own credibility? For her son and his best friend whether either of them are responsible for the bloodshed and removal of Ayla or not? Notice since TC4A came out, she never denied its accuracy. Crickets.

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    3. What has Heidi said about all of this lately? Anyone know?

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    4. Where is her empathy for Ayla or integrity to set the record straight? Not even an I don't know what happened, but I hope Ayla didn't suffer, I hope she somehow survived her injuries.Not am I'm angry, I feel deceived. Not a demand for justice for Ayla regardless of who may have shed her blood. Her silence speaks.

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    5. Okay, so Heidi is an awful person for speaking and awful for not speaking. Got it.

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    6. I appreciate that Heidi took in the DiPietros and guests for a couple of weeks, and then Justin, for a goodly time more. She was being a good samaritan.

      What I don't get is her, then, acting as public relations maven and defense lawyer for one involved in an event that she didn't witness. And then to publicly call out the police as incompetant...well! The gal has chutzpah to spare.

      But nothing to spare as far as concern for Ayla. Or any sympathy for Alya's mother. It almost seems as if, Heidi, like the DiPietros, knew that Ayla was okay. Or at least beyond any danger.

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    7. Anon 10:38, there's a lot of chutzpah going around. Didn't Jeff call out LE in The Case for Trista?

      Concern for Ayla? What would you call all the awareness that TTLOM participated in?

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    8. Jeff, as I recall, called out the police, not on their investigation, but on their unwillingness to share information and also for being unfeeling toward Trista..

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    9. from TCFT.

      Love should also be asked to remove himself from Ayla’s case and a new investigative team put into place to review the evidence in its entirety.

      ....Sounds to me like he's calling them out on their investigation.

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  18. I would think she would continue to speak out about this and correct the blood evidence if she thought she was still right about the few drops of blood.
    I would think she would want to see the slide show as involved in this case as she is.
    When she is so quite it makes me believe that the case for Ayla was true.
    I think of susan smiths case. The police found her blood in the home too. Nothing was done and now more are dead because a killer was free.

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  19. That's not it at all. Heidi Tudela went out of her way to take issue with other people publicly, saying they were wrong. She should set the record straight and apologize for her error just like anyone else.

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    1. You sure are good at deciding what other people ought to be doing just to please you.

      So now Heidi's crime isn't that she was involved in some way, it's that she spoke and didn't say what some wanted to hear and then didn't retract it? Gee, that's a great reason to persecute someone.

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    2. Well, excuse me, but it was a little hard to keep what Heidi said ( along with Angela Harry) straight. Their stories changed and statements were retracted. Of course, probably everything was cleared up in the TLLOM super secret meeting room!

      Were you a revered member of the TLLOM "Just Us Particular Folk for Ayla Club"? Whatever happened to that group? We don't hear from the old gang anymore. Sort of miss them.

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    3. No, I was not part of TTLOM. Were you one of the behind-the-scenes editors and advisers for The Case for Ayla? It sounds like there's been plenty of super secret activity all around.

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  20. Heidi's no victim (as in not persecuted) She's a strong woman who voluntarily took a public position in this case. If she felt offense at what anyone said, I'm sure she'd feel free to speak up and defend her honor if it suited her. Remember what she said about the importance to her of doing the right thing when that newspaper interviewed her and her husband about this case and her son's friend Justin?

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    1. I see. You believe it's okay to accuse someone of being involved in the disappearance of a child because they took a public position in this case? This is okay because she's not defending herself? Is there something wrong with ME for witnessing all this and speaking up and saying "THAT'S NOT RIGHT?"

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    2. Is there something wrong with defending Heidi? No, but why isn't she defending herself? If I had done nothing wrong and was not involved in Ayla's "disappearance" in any way, nor was my son, I would be out loud and proud defending myself. That is what innocent people do.

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    3. Now I'm confused...I thought defending was "sensitive" and associated with guilt?

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  21. No I don't. But you apparently think it's ok to accuse me of accusing her of being involved in a child's disappearance. I never accused her of that nor do I think she had a role in making Ayla disappear.

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    1. Me neither. Heidi likes to take charge, and here was a perfect opportunity for her to show her skills in controling the public persona of Justin DiPietro.Why she felt she needed to do this is an intriguing question.

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    2. Yes it is. If people are asking why she suddenly went silent, I think that intrigue is part of it. and I'm sure many are also wondering, has she given up on him, decided he doesn't deserve her support?

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    3. Maybe even hearing about the "slide show" gave Heidi pause in her campaign to boost Justin's image. That could have been a shock to the system. Especially if Justin had the same amount of answers/information for her that he had for the rest of the world.

      The DiPietros have remained mostly silent. Very smart of them. If they say nothing, who can use anything against them in court?

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    4. Too many Anons to keep straight...

      10:48, I consider covering for someone involvement. Isn't that what you believe or am I confusing you with someone else?

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    5. 10:48, here. I think there's been a lot of covering up in this case, which was probably an accident. I believe Heidi believed what Derek told her about the whole event. He may have told his mom that it was an accident, but Justin panicked and didn't get help for Ayla, or Justin may have found Ayla dead, too late to help her. Derek may have been with Justin when the accident happened or when Ayla was discovered, and, yes, helped Justin cover up the accident.

      Heidi may have gone out on a limb for Justin because Derek was too close to the scene in some way. And she probably truly believed that it was an accident for which Justin should not be prosecuted or perscuted. Nothing would bring back Ayla, no matter what anybody said or did. Both young guys had their lives ahead of them.

      estion is this: why couldn't Ayla's death be reported? Why was it better for everyone that Ayla be abducted?

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    6. Jmo I don't know if Heidi knew anything or when she found out if she did know. But if she found out something along the lines of what you suggested I can only see her not telling them to report Ayla's death if the plan were already too far along- like Ayla's body already out of their grasp.

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    7. I'll admit I cannot see her involved in any plan to sell an abduction. It is probable that, as you surmised,events and plans were already completed. I just cannot understand why she would want to be so conspicuous in the entire picture. Take the family in. help clean up their house after the police "mess", but keep quiet yourself and keep Angela Harry out of it!.

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    8. Hindsight is 20/20. I don't think any of them expected this case to get the attention it god.

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  22. I don't think Heidi went silent. I think she still writes on the blogs under other names. I sometimes read posts with a style very similar to what she used to write.

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    1. Amazing the powers people have.

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    2. I mean really what would be the point of using a different name? We are adults right?

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    3. I am not speaking for Heidi but for myself.

      There are some nuts who, because you may disagree with them, will harass and/or stalk you online or off in the name of "justice."

      It's why many of us posting are anonymously.

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    4. I meant to type doing so anonymously.

      Get it?

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    5. I do. But I am too lazy and computer illiterate to go through the bells and whistles to get a name.

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    6. LOL!

      Hello Dear Foil!

      I TOTALLY understand the occasional need to post anonymously. Sad how a certain "someone" makes this necessary. Sad that a certain "someone" is more fixated on the author of a comment rather than the content of the contributing post. Hopefully this certain "someone" will tire of cyber-bullying...perhaps he/she may take up a more rewarding hobby...scrapbooking might be a good fit. Hope springs eternal.

      You are missed by many, Foil. Just today I was rehashing our MS "exploits" with A1 on the chat.

      Hope you are enjoying your summer, friend. I think of you often, and always fondly.

      All the best,

      Kitty

      PS: *Think* I've seen some of your anonymous posts as of late...both here and "there" on FFA. I'll need to know eventually since there is a gambling pool in play and I got $3.00 wagering that it is you!

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    7. Kitty! : )

      I am so sorry to do this to you, but you are out $3!

      I haven't posted here or on J4A since I last posted using "Nina," whenever that was. I haven't posted over at FFA since I left in a huff some time ago. BUT I lurk and am here and there reading daily. I am so glad you and A1 are posting over at FFA adding some needed balance. I haven't had anything to add so I've just been reading along.

      I will buy you lunch should we ever meet to help make up the $3. ; )

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    8. Ouch, Foil! $3.00 and my pride got flushed in one fell swoop!

      Lunch with you is high on my "bucket lunch."

      Keep keeping on, Foil.

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    9. Um...not only "bucket lunch" but also "bucket list.."

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    10. Hello Nina, very nice to see a comment by you.

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    11. Kitty, I like "Bucket Lunch!"

      A1, thank you. Miss you guys.

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  23. I may be out on a limb here but I would think LE must have investigated all their old leads and tips. They must be waiting for new ones to come in. It would be nice to hear something from them.

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    1. So nice to see you too Dana.

      I agree, MSP should make a statement about Ayla's case every so often. Even if they have nothing new. It would go a long way in letting people know that they are still investigating, and Ayla's case is just as important as it always was.

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    2. Yep, they could make some statements. I don't think LE has to worry about a future court case in which their statements could derail the state's case. Ayla's case is not going anywhere. The Maine AG evidently needs a videotape of the crime in progress to.make an arrest.(See the Susan Powell case.)

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  24. Are others aware of this? I just read it and was quite surprised.

    ...In an effort to find some justice for Ayla Reynolds the maternal family is attempting to raise legal funds to pursue a claim of child endangerment against the DiPietro's.
    Your contribution will be used for this purpose and can be made directly in care of Ayla Reynolds to Bangor Savings bank.
    AylaReynolds.com ...contacts

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  25. Yes it's been there awhile now. There's also been talk of such a lawsuit for quite some time. If it happens it could be a way to force Justin to talk or risk a court ruling against him.

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    1. Are they waiting for sol to be up before pursuing this?

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    2. I don't think so I think any holdup is having enough $ to pay a retainer for representation

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    3. What happened to Mr. Pro Bono Hansen?

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    4. Different case. He agreed to sue DHS.

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    5. So what? There's no law saying he can't represent her for more the one case. And isn't the statute of limitations expired on that threat? She only had so much time to file after she "threatened" to sue....

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    6. I believe 6 years sol in maine.

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    7. Love the snark, Anon 4:00 and 8:36! "Mr. Pro Bono Hansen" and "So what?" And speaking of Trista: "threatened", Good going! Aimed at a person who has never had LE say the following statements against her.

      ' "Abduction is no longer part of this investigation. We have grave doubts that an abduction too place and there is no evidence to support it," Stephen McCausland told Newscenter 5.'
      ' "We are focused on what happened in that house. There are three people in the house that have NOT BEEN TRUTHFUL, Their story does not pass the smell test" he said.'

      I'd think LE surely don't drain a stream or send divers into a winter rivers in Maine because they think a missing 21 month old is very much alive and well.



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    8. Just because the person aimed at hasn't had those particular things said about her doesn't mean she isn't a lying piece of shit. For the record, I don't believe Ayla was kidnapped or that Trista had anything to do with her disappearance, except maybe as a catalyst. I do believe that Trista has lied her ass off ever since, however.

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    9. Even if you feel that way about Trista, a civil suit might help get the answers of what happened to Ayla.
      Sounds like blunt force, lots of pain for a while, and then hiding the child. That matters more to me than the moms issues.

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  26. Bottom line - as long as Trista keeps lying...Justin wins. Of course, if Trista tells the truth, she loses too, but at least Justin won't have won.

    So what's it gonna be Trista? You gonna let Justin win this?

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  27. So it is more important to brand Trista as a liar than to find Ayla? Love these hit and runs...with the "real" story of Trista! Of course, Justin never has lied,
    has he?

    "I smoked it!" Right, Justin! The ex-roomates are lying about that.
    Well, sho' nuff!.

    Justin in his second interview:
    "Ayla probably thinks this is some sort of game. She adapts real well. And I am sure she has adapted to this situation"

    Justin, the very concerned, anxious parent talking about his daughter in the hands of an abductor.. Let's just sit back (yawn) and see what develops, hey, Justin.

    It doesn't pass the smell or straight-face tests. Doesn't make any sense.

    And don't rebound with "...because Justin knows Trista has her hidden." That train has left the station.

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    1. Yeah, whatever Trista may have lied about has little to do with what happened to Ayla in the basement. If Ayla was Justin's child then he could have spent time with her at any point and if this happened while he was watching her then he is responsible. So whatever Trista has lied about has little to do with Ayla dieing in the Dipietros basement.

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    2. Not only bipolar but a substance abuse case. She is a mess. Poor Ayla. Crap for parents.

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    3. Do you think mental illness is fault-based and devalues a human being's worth? If so, you might consider doing some research.

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    4. Anon 12:15 AM, do you think mental illness won't impact a person's ability to be a healthy and even safe parent? If not, you definitely should do some research.

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    5. Meant to say "If you do" think so.

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    6. Of course it MIGHT(and often does) depending on nature and severity of illness and treatment, Nina. But mental illness does not make a human being "crap" or "a mess." And it's not a foregone conclusion that mental illness > bad parenting. Mental illness makes a person ill, and the illness may make the person less able to carry out life responsibilities including parenting (which is also true of physical illness.)

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    7. I read Anon 3:15 PM's comment to mean people crappy at being good parents. I don't know if that's what they meant. But you face a tough battle to argue that Trista or Justin were/are healthy and good parents to Ayla. Just because Ayla didn't disappear on Trista's watch doesn't make her a fine parent. She was an active alcoholic/addict. Research what kind of parenting results from that...

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    8. "Just because Ayla didn't disappear on Trista's watch doesn't make her a fine parent."

      It makes her parenting irrelevant to what happened to Ayla though. Justin was solely responsible for Ayla when something bad happened to her in his house leaving her blood in his bedroom.

      I don't think we disagree as to whether alcoholism/addiction make fine parents. Of course, not. But the investigation into Ayla's fate is not a parenting competition between Justin and Trista or Justin/Trista and the world at large. What matters is what happened to Ayla when she was with Justin.

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  28. Why aren't the DiPietros out calling, not only Trista and Jeff, liars, but LE, as well!? "We are out looking for Ayla everyday and giving interviews at evey opportunity to keep her name in the public eye. Help us! Don't pay attention to Trista; she has lied about the 'slide show' and what it shows. In fact Trista has Ayla hidden and LE refuses to even look for her with Trista's relatives who have hidden Ayla somewhere!"

    The DiPietros would not DARE to do this. LE might actually take some kind of offense and state something beyond what they have already stated about the veracity of the Waterville Three.

    Let well enough alone! Let's keep our heads down. Soon, everyone will forget. Ayla is a fading memory, already."

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    1. That does seem to be what is happening. I wish we knew if they plan on arrests or just continue to wait for a body.

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    2. Maybe they dont care. Its over as far as they are concerned. Kid is gone, no more child support or having to deal with the whack mother. Just biding time until she can be legally declared dead and then cash the ins policy. Maine is a joke.

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  29. Yes, the DiPietros have lied. We know why they lie, Ayla disappeared on their watch, they know what happened to her. Obviously whatever happened to her was so bad if they tell LE, they go to jail, so they lie. It makes perfect sense to me.

    But why has Trista lied? If her lies have nothing to do with what happened to Ayla, why the need to lie? It doesn't make her look any better, nor does it make the DiPietros look any worse, mainly because she keeps getting caught in her lies.

    This seems to be a cut and dried typical case. Dad abuses baby, baby gets dead, baby "disappears." What makes it so irregular is all the bullshit Trista has pulled. The only other moms of missing children that have been caught lying (that I can think of) were Billie Dunn and Casey Anthony.

    The DiPietros are smart not to counter anything Trista says, especially after LE reportedly said they would not back her up, and indeed haven't. Trista is such a bad liar perhaps they are content to let nature take it course.

    Of course, not commenting or talking is a typical action of a guilty person. The DiPietros are acting just as anyone would suspect. Trista on the other hand is all over the map. Which is why I think so many are focused on her.

    The DiPietros aren't going to budge. They aren't going to grow a conscience and start caring about Ayla (or what we think of them.) Trista is the loose cannon of this case. Whatever is causing her to lie is going to continue to fester and boil in her soul, especially as she watches Justin get away with murder.

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    1. Trista has said she has problems. It has been rumorrs that she is bipolar. That would explain her behavior.

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    2. Has Trista lied about the slide show?

      Has she lied about hurting Ayla in the DiPietro house and spiriting her away?

      The police did not say Trista was lying about what they showed her. they said they would not comment on specifics. Trista admits to stopping the slide show and did not see the whole thing..

      So what is so important that Trista did lie about? Spit it out and stop dancing around it.

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  30. " Trista on the other hand is all over the map. Which is why I think so many are focused on her. "

    I don't think so many are focused on Trista; I think most of the focus is centered on the people in that Waterville house who last had care of Ayla. I don't understand "all over the map" in regards to Trista. If I were she, I'd be long since all over some map trying to find out what happened to my baby.

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  31. Justin: "Ayla did not come to her demise down in my house."

    If Ayla is alive, Justin, she did not come to her demise anywhere.

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    1. Actually all the accusations of who did what is not helping anything. Trista Justin Phoebe Courtney Elisha Derek Heidi none of what you say about any of them helps. The only thing that will help is when LE makes an arrest. Until that time it is all smoke and mirrors. It gives the people making the accusations a false sense that they are helping in some way.

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  32. Hmm...puys out poll questions: "Which side of the controversy is always for controlling what is said? Which side of the controversy wants to stop all talk?

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    1. No one wants to stop the talk. It is just pointless to get all upset with each other over it. Discuss it like adults not school children.

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    2. Amen! We all have questions and no need to take it all so personally!

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  33. Phoebe DiPietro, who owns the 29 Violette Ave. property froj where Ayla was reported missing on Dec. 17, 2011, said in an email to the Morning Sentinel that she hopes her granddaughter is found and that the focus of the investigation shouldn't be on pressing charges.

    "I believe that the focus should remain on finding Ayla," DiPietro wrote. "Once Ayla is found then and only then will I think about justice. Justice is served only when all the facts and evidence are known and presented in a court of law."

    Sounds as if Phoebe is talking about a future trial after a body has been found. If she is talking about an alive Ayla, she'd be speaking about the trial of the abductor, no?
    Meanwhile, what is happening to Ayla under the care of her captor?

    Does anybody in that family care? Trista believes Ayla is dead, but the DiPietros insist that she is alive and with Trista or Jessica or some friend of the Reynolds

    The reason Phoebe/Justin took Ayla in the first place was to save her from a dangerous environment. Are they content to leave her there for 2+ years?.

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  34. i think it is time some outside agency investigated the handling of this case. FBI, take over!

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    1. I believe that the FBI is assisting. At least they were still involved at the one year mark. Even with their assistance, no one has been arrested for anything,...after almost 31 months.

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    2. The FBI won't just "take over" a local case. They need jurisdiction and even if there's an arguable basis for it, taking it may or may not be a federal priority.

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    3. The FBI are mandated to step in on kidnapping cases whether asked by locals or not sunce the 1932 Lindbergh kidnapping. A fact which probably accounts for the "no abduction took place" announcements made in Ayla's case. The FBI may be assisting in this case with expertise, but not because they consider it a kidnap case.

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  35. A1, where do you see the fbi was involved at the 1 year mark? I can't find it.

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    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naBT2qtoXUM

      Video of the one year press conference.... Starting at about 1:40

      McCausland....The investigators and the agencies they represent , State and Waterville Police, The Maine Warden Service, *The FBI*, are as committed today, as they were 1 year ago.

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  36. Thanks A1. I think it would be a good thing if the Fbi is still working on this.

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    1. You're welcome Anonymous. I too feel it was, or is, a good thing that the FBI are assisting.
      I don't know in what capacity they were assisting, only that they were, according to what McCausland said, up until at least the 1 year mark I think that is meaningful.
      They could still be assisting for all we know. .

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  37. Working on it, assisting in tech work or profiling, maybe, but not as a kidnap case. The FBI special teams to investigate kidnappings left the crime scene at Violette Ave.because it was not a kidnap case, and therefore, out of their jurisdiction , unless asked to come in officially by the local LE.

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  38. Well, maybe they were asked. You would think maybe LE would ask for help.

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    1. Often, it is the case of the locals not wanting to share the investigation with other agencies. They want the commendation/glory whatever for themselves. Or they want to hide errors and mistakes.

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    2. If this case can be called a "cold case", how long will it be classified as such in Maine? Before it is offically called a cold case, and having no sunshine law in Maine, when will new or outside investigators get a crack at the case? Just thinking of other cases whose time of secrecy about an investigation finally runs out and others can look at the cases? Anybody know the time limit in Maine to keep the investigation under close wraps?

      I do think the case will go to "cold", not because LE doesn't know who is culpable of Ayla's death, but because they have too many suspects and no witnesses who will squeal on the perp.who actually huirt Ayla. And the witnesses believe "we did nothing wrong" as Elisha said.

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    3. There are other ways to prove the case. If they can prove one or two of the adults who claim to be there weren't there for example, or if they can prove Ayla was hurt earlier, eliminating some of the potential perpetrators... I don't think there is any rule governing what happens next or when cold case status sets in.

      What shocks me, and has shocked me all along, is police not making a public plea for people who saw Ayla in her last days or spent time Justin, etc., in the days before the 17th to please come forward and talk about the way things were.

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    4. Do you think the cops were too oblique in their asking for "tips" and information? I mean not precise enough or descriptive enough in the info they wanted. Maybe there are some out there who have important info, but think it's not important, or means nothing.

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    5. Anon 5:16, yes. Suppose a friend met up with Justin Thursday afternoon and Ayla was with him. Or suppose a friend saw him Tuesday morning and he said Ayla was at home with his mom, but records show his mom was working. The friends wouldn't have any reason to think their experience had anything to do with Ayla's reported disappearance but those are things that would help nail down the timeline. The closer you get to the 16th and 17th, the more so.

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    6. That theory sounds very reasonable. If LE has said pointedly, "We want to hear from anybody, anywhere, who saw Ayla Reynolds in the week from Dec. 8th-16 to contact us immediately."

      Instead they said "We believe that sombody out there knows something and we need them to come forward." Huh? It sounds like they want info as to who could have taken Ayla from that house. If a person saw Ayla in a store on, let's say, the 12th with Justin, one might think, "Well she didn't go missing until the 17th in the middle of the night; I don't know anything!"

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  39. http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-mom-missing-baby-released-prison

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    1. Well, no blood in her basement. Maybe she did sell the child.

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    2. Or she killed the child like she said the first time. Either way 5 years isn't enough.

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  40. For Grace-i don't agree with you, but I appreciate the good read.

    P.S.please consider allowing comments on your blog

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  41. CG

    July 13, 2014 at 5:41 am

    Anna, it’s under contacts:” In an effort to find some justice for Ayla Reynolds, the maternal family is attempting to raise legal funds to pursue a claim of child endangerment against the DiPietro’s. Your contribution will be used for this purpose and can be made directly in care of Ayla Reynolds to: Bangor Savings Bank, 163 Main St., Biddeford, ME, 04005.Account #3500515411 Routing #211274382 “
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    CG: Do you know what will occur if they don't raise enough funds? Do they have a deadline? Will they be returning the money if enough isn't raised? Why aren't they using a transparent fundraising method?

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    1. Tori or Katie, maybe you can make a post about the fundraising? Little is known about it other than the blurb posted to the site and I'm interested in a discussion about it. (Plus this post is almost at 200 comments.)

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    2. Feel free to C&P this as a post:

      From Ayla's site which is managed by Jeff:

      ”In an effort to find some justice for Ayla Reynolds, the maternal family is attempting to raise legal funds to pursue a claim of child endangerment against the DiPietro’s. Your contribution will be used for this purpose and can be made directly in care of Ayla Reynolds to: Bangor Savings Bank, 163 Main St., Biddeford, ME, 04005.Account #3500515411 Routing #211274382 “

      According to Maine statutes, endangering the welfare of a child is a Class D crime:

      http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/17-a/title17-asec554.html

      Class D: Crimes punishable by up to 364 days incarceration and a $2,000 fine.

      http://www.maine.gov/ag/crime/criminal_justice_system.shtml

      I am not at all clear how soliciting funds from the public, without any form of transparency, is going to be helpful to Ayla or her case.

      "Avoid having direct control over any funds received. Parents should not solicit funds on their own. Use volunteer groups for this purpose instead."

      http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/childismissing/ch6.html

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    3. Foil, I too am uncomfortable with Jeff soliciting funds from the public. As you noted, where is the transparency? John Nano was able to raise a $30K reward. He is a prominent Maine attorney...I'm sure he would see to it that Trista receive legal assistance if he felt it was warranted.

      Here you go, Trista: http://www.vlp.org/

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    4. Correction: John Nale, not Nano.

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