Monday, February 3, 2014

911- Finally

The 911 transcripts have been released. We now have the transcripts to the TWO 911 calls made BY Justin, as his cell phone died on the first call and he IMMEDIATELY called back... hmm. very interesting.


News Release


Transcript 1
Transcript 2

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  1. So no third call, eh? Another Trista misunderstanding?

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    1. When the transcripts came out I thought, oh, the third one is still being withheld, huh. It wasn't until I read your comment that I got it. I GET IT. Once again I accepted as truth something that came from Jeff and Trista. I feel duped AGAIN. It scares me that I accepted falsehoods as truth after I thought I had mulled over it all and screened out hearsay.

      WHY would they need to put out so many "misunderstandings"?

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    2. and yet so many refuse to see they were duped....

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    3. The release also stated that not everything was necessarily released.

      There are also times when what you might think is a lie, was a misunderstanding. Don't take everything as gospel.

      There have been a lot of misunderstandings. But that doesn't change the fact that Ayla's blood was all over the Dipietro home. It doesn't change the fact that she was in Justin's care when she "disappeared". It doesn't change the fact that the LE believe that the three adults are NOT telling the truth. It does not change the fact that the LE state that no kidnapping occurred.

      Spend your time worrying about Trista misunderstandings and totally miss the big picture.

      Justin, where is Ayla?

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    4. It is not a fact that Ayla's blood was all over the house. Someone is definitely missing the big picture. I don't think it's me...

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    5. It isn't you, Anon 3:28. It is DEFINITELY not you!

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  2. No third call. No barricading in the bathroom. No having to have the dispatcher call him to get in touch.

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    1. Katie I don't believe you can prove that he didn't barricade himself in the bathroom at some point by reading this. The dispatcher did have to call him back and it went to message.

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    2. Justin has consistently said that the truth would come out. That he wouldn't publicly argue and dispute because it wouldn't do any good. It appears that the truth is trickling out. little by little..

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    3. Katie, it's very obvious that you want to believe Justin's lies. That doesn't mean he didn't harm Ayla and hide her body.

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    4. Show a link to one lie justin has told. Good luck!

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  3. Interesting. I thought there was a third 911 call Trista wasn't permitted to hear. But I don't see how that could be since Justin stayed on the line with the dispatcher until the police arrived.

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    1. Kitty, I agree. And it's always nice to see you posting.

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    2. Yes glad we can comment over here since my legs are at their worse and my doctor is playing games with my Meds. Now some if the truth coming out May be the reason behind Jeff closing out his supporters. How many lies can he tell just to convict someone? Let all the bullhorn play out in court but find Ayla now. Enough of this already.

      Gwen Griffin

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    3. Hello Foil, my friend! Yeah...I really don't understand all the reading between the lines of the 911 transcripts. The dispatcher asked the pertinent questions, and Justin responded. Even PH says "He offered nothing other than direct answers." I guess offering direct answers is now considered suspicious and hinky. Go figure.

      Without the actual audio it isn't possible to detect the tone of Justin's voice. It is pointless to even speculate on such a matter. Now we are to believe that Justin didn't step outside to greet the police officer per the dispatcher's instructions. We are to believe Justin barricaded himself in the bathroom based solely upon the words of Chelsea Hoffman.

      I never realized there was a universally proper standard in which to place a 911 call to report an emergency. It appears to be wrong to be calm, cool and collected. It appears to be wrong to be panicked and hysterical. It appears to be wrong to be polite and use the word "ma'am" when speaking with a dispatcher. Oh, and God Forbid your call gets dropped while on your cell phone!

      Well, I learn something new every day.

      Hope you are well, Foil!

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    4. Well said, mckee! I wish I had known all of this when I called 911. I almost had a panic attack and was calmed down by the operator. I was camllm through most of it and then started panicking. Geez.

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  4. There are apparently many inconsistencies. Justin went out to talk to police not barricade himself into bathroom. He also didn't hang up on dispatcher and dispatcher had to call him back. He immediately called back 911. He also didn't name who he suspected took Ayla like was speculated previously.

    The call went exactly like any normal 911 call, not really suspicious in my mind except the hesitation words like um and ah

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    1. Even then tori we could call tristas use of the word "like" the same as him using "um" and "ah". The spoken word always comes out much differently.

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    2. I agree Katie. Trista also uses hesitation words but I have always thought she was being deceitful about many things but mostly about how great of a parent she was. I haven't read Peter Hyatt's analysis yet but just got a link to it so am assuming he posted it.

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    3. Agree on some of this like his not hanging up intentionally and him making the return call... but we do not know whether or not he went outside and talked to an officer. We know dispatch told him to and he acquiesced and hung up. Did he follow through and actually do it? Or did he run into the bathroom?

      Someone says below he immediately called back when his phone died. It was more like 5 minutes or longer which is a pretty long time when you're making a 911 call. I based this on reading the script out loud as if I were making and answering the call and leaving some extra time for the phone ringing when transferred. This time gap could be important.

      I wonder also if the "third call" might be the 911 dispatcher reaching Justin's email as he said he did. That would account for the impression that Justin hung up and 911 called him back.

      There also could have been a third call if Justin did barricade himself in the bathroom and 911 called him on his cell phone and the transcript was withheld because it is more sensitive to the investigation. Since none of the newspapers mentioned a withheld third transcript, I suspect there isn't one. But when you're considering all the possibilities, that is one.

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    4. IsThisCharlieSheenFebruary 4, 2014 at 6:06 AM

      I would not necessarily call it a "normal" call, but true the 3rd call is missing. These transcripts, while seeming to clear some things up do not in fact show anything at all about whether he barricaded himself in the bathroom at any time. These are transcripts of the calls at a point in time, and not of the entire day. Other than the lack of urgency or fear in these calls, the other question would be how or why two different cell phones would die first thing in the morning. Absolutely can happen, but in my house highly unlikely. Most people charge their phones overnight and as we know from the one interview, it was a "normal night".

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    5. The barricading himself in the bathroom, if it did happen, may have occurred after the calls ended and the officer showed up. Perhaps the officer went in to speak to him, but he had closed himself inside the bathroom. If that did happen, it could have been for any number of reasons. It sounds suspicious, for sure, but we can't know. Maybe he got a terrible case of the runs! Irritable bowel can be brought on by stress.... Anyway, I'm wondering who originally reported the bathroom incident, and how they know about it. Unless she just pulled it out of thin air, someone told Chelsea.. so who was it? I swear I remember reading somewhere that Justin was barricaded in the bathroom during that mysterious (and missing) 3rd 911 call. I just wish I could remember where I read it. ~MR~

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    6. This? http://united4ayla.com/retraction-and-an-apology/

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    7. CG says: "Someone says below he immediately called back when his phone died. It was more like 5 minutes or longer which is a pretty long time when you're making a 911 call. I based this on reading the script out loud as if I were making and answering the call and leaving some extra time for the phone ringing when transferred. This time gap could be important.
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      CG, can you please explain just how you conducted this "experiment" of yours to determine that at least five minutes elapsed between 911 calls? There is no time stamp in the transcript. I'm just curious. Also note that the dispatcher had the most urgent information before the disconnection...Justin's address. The dispatcher wasn't going to twiddle her thumbs waiting for Justin to call back. What if Justin didn't have access to a second cell phone? Do you think LE would just ignore the situation and not scramble to 29 Violette Ave.?

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    8. umm, I find it most fascinating that someone took the time to conduct this experiment.

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    9. There is a time on the transcripts. Look under the dates.

      I don't know why it took the police so long to get there. There is a police station nearby. Perhaps all the cars were out on calls.

      I know what 911 protocol is and it is to call back when the line is disconnected/hung up. And that's what they did. Was the car also on its way? It looks like it was not from the transcript if you look way down where the dispatcher says he will get a car on its way. If I didn't read this, like you, I would have thought with a missing baby report they'd be moving as fast as humanly possible.

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    10. I agree with you on that point, CG. It isn't Justin's fault that there was a delay in dispatching a cruiser to 29 Violette. Justin provided his name, the address and the nature of the emergency before the call was dropped. And yet I see many criticizing Justin for "dropping pronouns" and speaking out of "tense." All I can say is, really?

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    11. Is all that criticism maybe similar to that whole "deflection" thing so many who question Trista are accused of?

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    12. I think it is also worthy to note that the dispatcher said "What number are you calling me from case I lose you?" Dropped calls can happen on both ends. I didn't catch the dispatcher asking Justin "did you disconnect from me?" I only heard Justin stating his phone died during the call.

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    13. Oh...and totally OT, CG. But I was searching for one of your past Yahoo contributor articles and stumbled upon your Kenmore vacuum cleaner youtube video that was aired last month. That was pretty funny...a "constipated" vacuum cleaner!

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    14. LOL I never saw the video before.

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    15. Shit, Carol. You should know that your name is being used to promote a vacuum cleaner. I sure hope they had your permission to use your name! If you aren't aware of what is going on, please be aware of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUlZAk5MrZ8

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    16. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUlZAk5MrZ8

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    17. I'm only bringing this up because If this youtube "infomercial" wasn't done with your consent, I think you have a valid reason to protest that your name is being attached to promoting a product. We should all be careful what we attach our name to. I sure wouldn't want my name attached to something I didn't thoroughly vet, be it a vacuum cleaner or a story fed to me by Jeff.

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    18. You "never " saw the video, CG?

      Deception indicated.

      http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-word-never-in-analysis.html

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    19. Initially I thought the time stamps in the transcript were meaningful but then I realized that the time stamps are from an automated voice system (according to the key) so they show up here and there. The first time stamp on the call is followed by the note that the operator took an unrelated call, not transcribed, hung up that call, then took the call from Justin. There's no indication of the length of the unrelated call, or the gap from hanging up that call and taking the next, so there's no way of knowing how long the gap is between the Justin's first call ending and his second beginning.

      If we have a snow day tomorrow like I think we will, I will try to combine the two reports into one, color coding the text and overlapping the middle area to figure out if it is 2 or 3 calls because I'm still having a hard time figuring that out.

      All said and done, the transcription presented doesn't make Justin look any better than he hasn't looked so far, to me.

      ~Scout

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    20. McKee, thanks for pointing it out. Since this is the first time I saw it, I will have to listen to it carefully and decide what, if anything, I need to do.

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    21. Scout, I liked your comment and wish to share it at friendsforayla.wordpress.com. If this is not alright with you, just say so and I will remove it.

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  5. Looking At The FactsFebruary 3, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    Respectively can I ask how many of you have ever called 911? I can tell you I have called many times for my mother. She is disabled with many health issues. The first time I needed to call she had come out of her room holding her arm saying call 911 I think I am having a heart attack. I called very calm knowing damn well this was an emergency. I just needed to get LE and an ambulance here quick to save her life. i was calm and cool getting them the info they needed. It turned out to be a blood clot in her lung(pulmonary embolism). From that time she has had many bouts with lung infections that i had to call 91 for to get her to a hospital calm each time. The last time I needed to call I had come home from school shopping with my daughter, i walked t to my mother not being able to get a coherent sentence out. Not knowing how long she had been like this since we had been gone all day I called 911 in a panic. The operator’s voice was very calming and no matter how panicked I was she made me feel at ease. I gave her the info needed and followed her directions in a calm matter. I knew nothing would actual happen until I got LE and EMS to the house. I guess i am just saying we can all say I would do this or that or Justin should have said this or that but really we do not know unless we were in that situation with all the same circumstances surrounding us. Everyone including me have wished Justin would talk more would open up but can you blame the guy anytime he says anything it is picked to the bone and if he doesn’t talk the the same thing happens. Now we have a transcript of what was said ,even though we have heard many times from the maternal family Trista was allowed to listen to 2 recordings she was told the third one was more of the same we were told that Justin hung up and 911 had to call him back, the actual transcripts show he called an then called back because the cell phone died, no third call. IMO if this was all staged would he have not made sure he had a charged hone to call and not have a phone die. I know I am rambling but there is so much that makes no sense, things we have hear that now ring untrue. I just do not think we can judge anything on a transcript we have not heard and have no personal experience with. I have my beliefs and others have theirs I am not trying to change anyone’s mind

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    1. I called 911 once because my child, in the time it took me to put the dog in the house and turn around, walked into the dense woods around our house and disappeared. She was six. I paused several times in my panic too collect my thoughts to answer the questions asked. I can't imagine what people would think if the transcript from that was released. Fyi, 45 minutes after I called le still didn't show and a neighborhood search by my neighbors located my child. I had to call le back and they never followed up. This was years ago... but, it was February and she was only six.... Le doesn't always get it right.

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  6. I'm really glad we get to see the calls released. They arn't as harsh as we all thought and I think alot of the rumors that surrounded the "calls" can now be put to rest. But I do think that it sounds funny. very laid back for a father who's daughter became missing in the middle of the night. I don't know guys... Thats why I pressing MSP to step it up and get it done! And by god Katie if The Dipietros are innocent tell them tell their people whatever it takes to get them to come out of hibernation and speak up for their Missing little girl, It certainly seems wierd that the family that believes she was taken is the family that hides. JMO

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  7. Goodness me, I don't see or know what the big the hoopla is.

    Am I smiling, or frowning? Am I anxious or calm?

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  8. From the sighing and repeating himself, I get the impression he was slightly impatient and rushed talking to the operator. Messing up his words and incomplete sentences leads me to believe he was in emotional distress. I've been quiet for a while because I just wasn't sure what to make of everything anymore but this speaks to me and makes me think things over again... just reading the words brings tears to my eyes. Whoever has Ayla or knows where she is, please get the information to whoever can help. Do it anonymously if you have to but please, do it.

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  9. Looking At The FactsFebruary 4, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    My mother has pain in her arm. She is concerned.

    Tell me am I concerned? Am I hiding something? what are my emotions?

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  10. After all of this one sided stories and Jeff bailing out in the people that believed in every word Trista said we all need to get back to stoping the blame game and focus on AYLA REYNOLDS MISSING. These parents are not going to lead anybody to Ayla so the MSP needed to bring in fresh eyes and find this girl. Neither parent is taking the blame and this is getting no where. We all agree she needs to be found then the story of what happened can play out later. It is sad to keep up all this blaming and Jeff has gone beyond using Trista for him looking like a saint. Everyone is a suspect until she is found and the evidence shows who is the blame. No argueing this because it is fact period.

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  11. I am going to be rather brief and to the point. Without divulging my specific educational background or training, I will just say that I have experience in forensic psychology. Without hearing the audio recording of these 911 calls or having done a clinical, psychological assessment of Justin DiPietro, my belief is that his conversation with the 911 dispatcher showed definite deception, was clearly scripted, and he illustrated a definite lack of concern for his missing child, Ayla Reynolds. Period. Feel free to disagree.

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  12. I want to add that I can clearly understand why law enforcement did not want these particular 911 transcripts released. I would suspect that the 911 transcripts are an integral part of their criminal investigation regarding Ayla's disappearance.

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    1. Rose, I value your background in forensics and agree with your assessment of the call itself on the basis of common sense as well. I am not sure why the police felt the need to withhold the transcripts, though, other than a general desire to hold information close. What happened in the 911 call can't be changed. Whatever a defense attorney can claim about it is eventually going to be claimed, anyway. So why worry about releasing the transcripts? If their release leads to a string of cover-up lies, it might actually help rather than hinder the investigation, IMO.

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    2. Your biases are showing. Period. Then with CG swooping in with her agreement, it's just par for the course.

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    3. Rose, claiming you have a background in something doesn't give any substance to your opinion on a blog.... Also, I know people with a background in education that are terrible teachers. People who have backgrounds inn medicine are notalways good doctors. I don't see how anyone can analyze his emotions without at least hearing his voice. The only information I gained from this is that Trista did not accurately recount the 911 calls. Maybe that is why msp didn't want them released. Maybe msp has been trying really hard to be friends with Trista. Maybe if people start distrusting Trista, msp won't be able to keep her talking and maybe msp needs Trista to keep talking. Maybe the so called "dipietro defenders" are not the blind ones. Maybe everyone needs to step back from their collective groups of sheeple and take an actual look at who has really said what. Being called a liar is very different from proving one's self a liar.

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    4. Anonymous 12;28 PM, I don't really care if you believe what my background is. Nothing that is written on a blog is likely to have any bearing on this case. I made it perfectly clear that I did not have access to the actual 911 audio recordings. Of course I would not attempt to analyze an individual's emotions from a 911 transcript or even a 911 audio recording for that matter. That would take a clinical psychological assessment plus other actuarial measures. However, there are several red flags that can be identified even from just a 911 transcript.

      Regarding your suggestion that the Maine State Police has an ulterior motive for Trista to keep talking, thank you so much for making me laugh today. The idea that two plus years after Ayla's disappearance, law enforcement would be "trying really hard to be friends with Trista" is absolutely, positively ridiculous. Good luck with that one, though. You really can't be serious.

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    5. Oh, i really can be and i am.

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  13. I so not understand why the MSP keeps giving out all the info that may be used in a trial. I am not saying that any one is guilty but they act like they are trying to scare someone into talking and whoever did this is having the last laugh at them. Jeff said that they even wanted Trista to try to get info from Justin. So the blood must not be enough for an arrest or they could have stated with it and went from there if they thought he was guilty. Saying they are not sure who did what is not good enough at this point. All they are doing now is playing with people emotions and no action taken to find Ayla

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  14. A question for those who believe Justin is guilty:

    Why won't LE name Justin as a suspect?

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    1. Because there were two other adults in the house and no one is talking thats why. They will get to court and start pointing fingers at each other and it will be a hung jury.

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    2. Nina, They aren't ready to do that. It's that simple. When they are ready, they will.

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  15. Nina, If the prosecutor isn't ready/willing to prosecute at this time, naming Justin as a suspect would not help the police. They would have to read him his rights including the right to counsel and the right to remain silent. At that point, he would likely stop talking to them altogether. Why do it unless there is some advantage in doing it? The following was written specifically about rights in the court martial process but it's useful in addressing in a general way the advantage to police of not naming a suspect. http://www.armycourtmartialdefense.com/UCMJ_Rights.pdf

    There is also a problem with feeding the defense which will argue, correctly or not, that as soon as a suspect was named, the investigation was narrowed to focus exclusively on their client, and not to consider all possibilities.

    So... why name a suspect? To appease the public? To pressure a person of interest? Do you see either of those as a strong enough advantage in this case to overcome the disadvantages?

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    1. "So... why name a suspect? To appease the public? To pressure a person of interest? Do you see either of those as a strong enough advantage in this case to overcome the disadvantages?"

      Do you believe LE bases their decisions upon strategic advantages and not facts? If they believe he is a suspect, I would think they would call him one, or at the very least, a person of interest.

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    2. What is the strategic advantage to not clearing Trista as a POI or suspect?

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    3. "There is neither a formal process nor a requirement for naming a suspect. A suspect is whomever the investigators believe may be responsible for the crime. The question of whether a person is a suspect is most often at issue during an interview/interrogation and whether Miranda rights should be read. I see no law enforcement value in publicly naming a person a suspect. When sufficient evidence exists – make the arrest.

      There is nothing wrong with feeding the media and assuring the public that the police are making progress. But, let actions speak louder than words. Publicly naming a suspect will most likely cause more problems from a criminal procedure and civil perspective than it will advance the investigation."
      http://michaeltabman.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/why-name-a-suspect/

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  16. One obvious advantage is not to feed into a Justin defense that they should have looked harder at Trista but instead chose to focus on him.

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  17. Justin gives no info to the 911 operator unless he is specifically asked. She is having to tug everything out of him. He only gives out that Ayla is "not there".

    Of course, we can't actually hear the tapes to discover whether he actually sounds upset, anxious, terrified, or merely calm (delivering a prepared script?)To read his replies is alarming. So calm, even dispassionate.

    He doesn't even answer all the 911 operator's important questions. He has to check with Elisha to find out when Ayla was last seen. Doesn't sound raesonable that he and Elisha wouldn't have exchanged that important info long before the call. It sounds like a performance for the operator's benefit. Well, after all it was ten or eleven hours after Elisha checked on Ayla that Ayla was "not there".

    Could be because he doesn't want to go on record on any question whatsoever in case all the housemates' and visitors' stories might not balance later?

    And he insists that Ayla is a baby, an infant. Ayla was a toddler who really got around. With the broken arm, yet! The dancing video of Ayla shows that she was an extremely active child. Not an "infant"at all, at any rate.

    And why is the sling or soft cast not mentioned? It would certainly bear witness to a story that Ayla could never, no way, get herself out of her bed. (Operator calls it a "crib" and Justin doesn't rebut.) But wasn't it a regular youth bed of sorts? Maybe they had to tie Ayla down because of her arm and that's why Justin claims she could never "get...." Out of bed by herself? Whatever. He doesn't finish his statement.

    Why no mention to the operator of a sling or soft cast on Ayla's arm? Someone in that house gave out that info when what Ayla was last seen wearing ( the Princess Pajamas) was broadcast.

    Why doesn't he indicate at any time that Ayla was ever looked for in the neighborhood or, indeed, even in the house? Again, I guess because he asserts that Ayla could never, no way, get herself out of the bed ("Crib"?) Therefore. we can all come to the conclusion that JD is saying that she must have had help to leave. Or she had to have been "taken". Although he never broaches that subject in the calls.

    He makes no assumptions. He makes no reference to Ayla's needs. And he makes no demands on LE to help find a toddler, Ayla, out there somewhere on her own. Ayla is merely "not there".

    Merely missing? But they never looked for her. No record at all of any of them looking around the neighborhood and asking the neighbors for help, not even any evidence that they went next door to inquire. Certainly looks like they truly wanted it known that Ayla could not ever get out of bed on her own. No need to scour the neighborhood. Yet, the cops surely did!

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  18. If someone could explain the blood I would maybe, just maybe look at someone else. That baby's blood was found throughout the house as well as on Justin's shoes and in his car. Someone please explain this to me. Until that piece is explained I will believe someone in that house that night knows what happened to poor Ayla. . . accident or not! There is nothing right about not calling 911 when you baby is in distress. His call sounds rehearsed to me and not knowing what time Elisha "supposidly" checked on her speaks volumes. Katie what have they told you about the blood? They must of had some explanation.

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    1. Think about this for a second. Where did all this blood evidence information come from?

      answer: the same person who said there were 3 calls to 911.

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    2. If Trista were making it up I believe LE would have corrected her. They told her what a mother should know. Stop being delusional and realize that something happened to that baby in that house. If she was actually kidnapped they would be speaking out for her.

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    3. No not really, not if you stop refusing to believe everything that you don't want to be true. In January 2012 a Boston reporter published that Ayla's blood was spattered in DiPietro's house, remember? And when McCausland had a hissy fit over it, the article was "updated" and while there were changes in wording regarding police believing Ayla was dead, thet information about her blood spatter remained in the revised article.

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    4. It doesn't matter what remained in the article what matters is this:

      “That is why I issued a release,” he said of a press release he emailed to reporters at 8:36 p.m. Monday. “I’ve never spoken those words and I’m not going to repeat them. I’m not going to pick apart something that is unattributed, irresponsible and inaccurate.”

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    5. True story right there, Katie.

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    6. IMO
      unattributed= the source was listed as multiple investigators on the case who were not identified by name
      irresponsible= how the hell could you publish that we think this baby is dead when we haven't broken that news to her family
      inaccurate= not our official position and maybe a couple minor details off

      When editors got involved to make things right, what happened? Most of the story was republished. Do you think they'd knowingly republish information they knew to be incorrect? While McCausland was not willing to publicly state what was wrong with the article (he really couldn't without revealing information the investigators wanted confidential) I feel quite confident he would have been more specific in private conversation, off the record, with editors who were working to correct the original article

      And think about this from the news outlet's perspective. Anyone can make an error but if told it's an error and they refuse to correct it, that's opening them up to liability. News outlets have legal advisors.

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    7. Maine State Police spokesman Stephen McCausland, reached late Monday at his home, would not detail everything he found objectionable in the report because he said he didn't want to repeat inaccurate statements.

      http://www.officer.com/news/10621388/ma..

      .....McCausland would not detail "everything" he found objectionable, as he didn't want to repeat inaccurate "statementS" (more than one) .
      Since it was more then one thing McCausland found objectional. Was not specific. How can anyone decide what was accurate and what wasn't?
      Therefore I disregard the entire article.

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    8. Well I wasn't talking about the beginning of the case when the blood was "leaked" and a Boston reporter reported that leak. . . I was speaking of what LE showed to Trista and her sharing it.

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    9. What Trista says LE showed her. Hearsay. No proof.

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    10. Anon 2:56. McC said he had no "criticism" of what Trista released. That is NOT saying Trist'a's recollections of the January 3 meeting are accurate. McC also said that the meetings were reserved only for AYLA'S family members and the meeting was between "us and her." No mention of Melissa and Fazzi being present. I find that curious.

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    11. So glad I don't live in Maine anymore is all I can say. LE there is an embarrassment. And so are the prosecutors. Maybe they should pay more attention as to how the case of Elaina Steinfurth was handled. They didn't waste time,people's butts went to jail on obstruction charges, one finally made a deal and talked, child's body found, trials over, case closed. Nothing lingered like this horse and pony show. Deal with all the adult LIARS that were in that house. They ALL know what truly happened to Ayla. And in my heart of heart, I know Justin has told his mama what happened too. EVERY adult who knows the truth and keeping their mouths shut, are as guilty as the person who caused that child to vanish!LE has already stated that they know the ones who were in that house are not telling the truth.There are such things as obstruction charges.It's at least a place to start. Ayla was failed by everyone who should have loved and protected her,and now, they lie,and can't even let her come home,and be put to rest. LE and prosecutors need to step it up. They have enough to MAKE people talk, and it's long overdue.

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    12. Anon 4:12 That's making a very big assumption that what you think happened actually happened. You don't have any idea what the evidence really is, what the facts are, or even what the tips are that they're following.

      constantly comparing this case to others does not make it factual. No case is identical! I could share anecdotes from cases with the opposite outcome, and what would you say to me then? I think it is incredibly silly to constantly refer to other cases as proof that Justin is guilty.

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  19. How does it feel to be thrown under the bus, Elisha? YOU are the last to have seen Ayla!. According to your brother. Even Courtney gets off light because she was sleeping with Justin and Ayden in the basement...on the bloody sheet, under the bloody walls. Oh, it all makes some kind of ( non)sense.

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  20. I have a few questions those of you who have posted above and on other sites that have been questioning Justin's demeanor during the calls to 911. Have you ever called 911 for an actual serious emergency? If yes, were you calm or not calm? Also, if yes, did you know just what to say without being asked a thing? If you answered no to the first question, how the hell can you possibly know or understand or presume to know anything about whether or not Justin did it the right way? And since when is there even a right way at all? Look at this objectively for a change, will you? Stop inserting his emotional state or tone based on your bias. Like it or not, and some of you actually are realizing this. .. there have been many inconsistent reports released by Trista. It's time to question what you think happened, and stop assuming her stories are always factual.

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  21. Just something to think about......I as a parent take life insurance out on myself to provide for my child if something should happen to me.....Justin however has no life insurance on himself, . Yet he had recently taken out life insurance on Ayla, with himself as the only beneficiary..(that was puzzling to me)....Tristan had just filed to get custody back of Ayla, within 48 hours, Ayla has vanished...... Tristan may have had what some are calling inconsistent statements, they can call them what they want. What about the house full of Liars that were in the same house that Ayla disappeared from? As for the 911 calls.Sure,I guess it's possible to stay calm, but, beck,calm, not comatose! FIRST of all, you can bet, while one person is on the phone, all those other so called adults would have been off their butts and LOOKING for her!! No one went to look anywhere! Justin refers to Ayla as an infant,a baby, she was neither, she was a Toddler, that does make a difference! He never mentions the soft cast on her arm, why, as a toddler, she very well Could have climbed out of a crib with the use of 2 hands....his story stunk like a skunk then, and it stinks even worse as time goes on. I saw someone else mention obstruction of justice, I agree. Everyone from that house should still be persons of interest, questioned again, and held to the law of obstruction. It is a starting point. They all think they can lie and not pay any consequences for it,since they haven't so far.

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    1. "Yet he had recently taken out life insurance on Ayla, with himself as the only beneficiary"

      ...How do you know who the beneficiary is, and/ or how many beneficiaries are named. ?

      "all those other so called adults would have been off their butts and LOOKING for her!! No one went to look anywhere!"

      ...really are you sure, and how do you know?

      Everyone from that house should still be persons of interest, questioned again, and held to the law of obstruction.

      .....I'm sure that they all are persons of interest. I'm sure they have been questioned umpteen times. I'm sure if MSP thought it appropriate, they would have been arrested for obstruction.




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    2. How do you know Justin had no life insurance on himself? And who the benificiary(ies) is/are for Ayla's policy? Just like eceryone else who thinks Trista is perfect and Justin is the devil, you are operating on rumor and making shit up as you go along.

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  22. Let's say that we can believe nothing of what Ttrista says...let's say she is a congenital liar as well as the a slut of all time. Let's say she is not to be trusted in anything she says. Let's say her whole story about seeing blood evidence is a fairy tale which she made up to see him arrested or as the guilty kidnapper herself, to deflect suspicion on him.

    Did not McCauseland made the statement that there was Ayla's blood found in the house and it was "troubling " to LE.Didn't he make the statement that he thought it unlikely Ayla was alive? Doesn't this fact make anyone suspicious that Ayla came to harm in that house, especially when the DiPietros have never adequately explained anything about the blood? And to this day, as in Phoebe's letter to the media, still remain absolutely silent about the subject of Ayla's blood?

    Or must we also discount everything LE has said as we discount all that Trista has said?

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    1. Seems to me that many of the Trista supporters cherry pick their facts.

      They want to dismiss Trista's deception as confusion.

      They want us to trust LE but at the same time, according to Camp Trista/Jeff, LE is corrupt and not to be trusted.

      I went to link to it just now but Jeff has removed all of the posts from United For Ayla.

      I believe LE. But even they don't have enough evidence to form a conclusion about who did what, so why should I?

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    2. Sorry, it's still there.

      http://united4ayla.com/the-case-for-trista/

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    3. Choosing to believe some alleged facts and not others is not necessarily cherry-picking. I think each of us has her/his own threshold for how much support a purported fact needs to have before we believe it.

      With respect to Trista, I look at the fact that she was just out of treatment for substance abuse when her earlier statements were made and when some of the information she later repeated was given to her. If you look at her media interviews from back then and compare them to more recent ones, it seems obvious she was not at her best. I would not be surprised if some of her memories (and thus her repeating of facts) from back are confused. I would trust current information coming from her more than information from back when but I also look at the whole picture. Does what she says happened fit with other know facts or not?

      Some commenters seem to see discrepancies as automatic lies that undermine everything else the speaker says. I don't think that's reasonable and fits normal human behavior. Others apparently do.

      While I think Trista has been honest and told the truth as she understands it, I don't think her account is perfect or close to it. I also don't think Justin's account is to be disbelieved simply because his actions look suspect to me. He has told a lot of truths, in my opinion. When his words appear untruthful to me, it often seems to be by omission and misdirection rather than direct lies.

      I have no problem with others reading things completely differently. By airing our differences, I think we all learn something and our opinions evolve.

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  23. BTW, I don't think it's true that LE doesn't have enough information to form a conclusion about who did it. I think they formed a conclusion but the prosecutor wants to be sure the conclusion is immune from attack at trial.

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    1. I agree CG.

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    2. you would...

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    3. And that won't happen until Ayla is found. And when will that be? Never. In my opinion.

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    4. The LE doesn't need to find Ayla to prosecute, although that would certainly help. But they do need to be sure of who did what. I think they know what happened, but not WHO and they don't want to risk the real perpetrator getting away with it. The LE can afford to wait until the time is right, after all they cannot save a dead Ayla. As heartbreaking as it may be for Trista to not know what happened and where Ayla is, it is more important that the LE gets their arrests right the first time. We just need to be patient, someone will talk, they always do. Those involved can just wait and see WHO talks first.

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    5. I believe in a different variation on that theme. I think they know who but they know there are weak spots in the case that a defense attorney could latch onto and possible get an acquittal. I think they don't want to risk that and believe that they will eventually get one of several people who know what happened to talk, possibly in a plea bargain. They need to get the right person on the right charge- someone who will be facing a long jail term, maybe even life, without a plea bargain. I don't think it's one of the W3. JMO.

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    6. "I don't think it's one of the W3." Are you saying you don't think Justin, Elisha or Courtney are involved, CG?

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    7. No I think at least one and probably to some extent all 3 are involved. I think the police might do better to find someone else rather than one of them for a plea bargain.

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  24. Does anyone know what the story is with this?

    It is posted on the Truth and Justice for Ayla Reynolds Facebook page.

    "*****Urgent*****
    There is reliable information as to the whereabouts of Ayla Reynolds.
    I need as many people as possible that are willing to call Law Enforcement with specific information please inbox me immediately T the link below. We need at least 30 people. It is time to bring her home and get Justice for this little girl. For obvious reasons I cannot publically disclose this information. It's crunch time."

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Truth-and-Justice-for-Ayla-Reynolds/1390787587841509

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    1. If it was there it seems to have been removed. Obviously no legit effort would ask people without firsthand information to make reports like that.

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    2. I got the info but it doesn't sound legit to me.

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    3. i would like too see the info

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    4. I was asked not publish it publicly

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  25. maine4ayla@gmail.com

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  26. Does anyone have any info on Justin's other baby mama...specifically that she watched Ayla in Portland before Ayla went "missing"?

    Did Justin really ever stay in Waterville with Ayla for any length of time or was that a story told to DHHS?

    Who mainly watched Ayla while Justin continued his party life? His mother and sister? They both had jobs or school. Where was Ayla mainly housed while they were at their daily activities? I can't see Justin staying with Ayla when all the action was in Portland along with Justin's bed.

    Come on Katie; you are a friend of the family. Where did Ayla mostly stay? At 39 Pine? Something is really hinky about Ayla's "caretakers".

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  27. So, according to Justin on the 911 tapes, Elisha was the last to see Ayla.

    Elisha: Thanks dear, bro, it's so comfy under this Greyhound, but just wait..."

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  28. It's frustrating that the starters/moderators of this blog cannot keep it going. Lack of time or lack of interest? Sad. It's been that way since the first of Justice for Ayla. Must be a busy time in Maine.

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  29. Anonymous 2.56, What more is there to add ?

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    1. Bonnie, I keep hoping that if we keep talking about her, Ayla will be found, or justice will be served. I hagte to see her another "forgotten" case and the yawns start when her name is mentioned.

      I think it's going that way, though.

      After the poor rally turnout in Jan. several people wrote to the Maine newspapers saying "Move on!We're tired of this case. Forget about her;she's dead. Stop spending our tax money on this case." Etc.,etc.

      Why open a blog and hardly address the topic. I don't get it.

      I think I will forget about Ayla, too. It's too upsetting.

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    2. What is stopping you form starting a blog of your own? Tori has kept this blog open since the beginning. What have you done other than complain about her? Be proactive and add something or send a guest post.

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    3. Anonymous, or anyone else for that matter:

      Tori and I have both re-hashed things numerous times on here. If anyone would like to submit a guest post, that would be awesome. Otherwise, until new things pop up (whether it is media releases, general coverage, or new leads/investigative info that is released that we can post about) we will usually not be doing much re-posting.

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    4. Thank you Katie for your polite reply. It helped. It would be great if you answered some of the questions ( as a self-confessed insider) which have been posed to you on this blog. But you really never do, do you? I understand. Ayla is not as important to you as your defense of the DiPietros. Or perhaps the DiPietros are not as close to you as you have indicated and you really know nothing.

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  30. Maine mother’s anguish prompts lawmaker to propose cold-case unit
    The state has 120 of such never-solved murder cases dating back to 1953 but no detectives dedicated to investigating them.

    By Scott Dolan sdolan@pressherald.com
    Staff Writer

    State Rep. Stephen Stanley has seen the emotional toll that 34 years have taken on Pamela McLain since her daughter was murdered in 1980...

    http://www.pressherald.com/news/Lawmaker_moved_by_anguish_of_murder_victim_s_mother_seeks_to_create_Maine_cold-case_unit_.html

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    1. Thanks for the links Nina. I appreciate them.

      I was pretty saddened by the way that Penny was allowed to speak of you and McKee on another blog.
      Please don't let it get you down. ((((Nina))))

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    2. Hey, A! (((1))) Thank you. In the past I would have taken it personally, but distance has been good for me. I think their new blog is far more balanced than U4A, but it's apparent that they will still permit Penny to make nasty remarks about other people posting. I was willing to overlook the past and start anew over there. I tried. Thanks again, A1. I hope you and the gang are well!

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    3. It's better than u4a, but it'll never be balanced until the admins are. I'm not sure they ever will be.

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    4. It's better than u4a, but it'll never be balanced until the admins are. I'm not sure they ever will be.

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    5. It's better than u4a, but it'll never be balanced until the admins are. I'm not sure they ever will be.

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  31. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Iegt8_vBE

    Up for discussion.

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    1. Threatened to use force.... well that's not in Terrilynn's version now is it.... maybe a new blog post with the discrepancies?

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    2. Fascinating! The tenant's account is missing from both the Lewiston police report and The Taking of Ayla Reynolds article.

      OT: Miss you, Foil! FFA isn't much different than U4A. Same cast of characters pushing the same agenda. But at least you and I gave it a chance. FFA are a clever bunch. They sensed our controlling, manipulative, egomaniacal and insincere ways, didn't they?

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    3. I miss you too, Kitty. Yes, we did give it a chance--for Ayla.

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    4. As for the youtube video, it's a damn shame the police and Justin were able to take Ayla. Had she been left with Jessica, she would be alive and well today. It just goes to show, the law does not always prevent crimes.

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    5. McKee said:
      "Fascinating! The tenant's account is missing from both the Lewiston police report and The Taking of Ayla Reynolds article".

      You mean the police report that was posted on a blog, correct?
      The issue with that is, it may, or may not have been an accurate or true representation of said police report.

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    6. Yes, Anonymous. You are correct in questioning the report, the circumstances in which Jeff may have obtained it, and the report's accuracy.

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    7. Gasp! Questioning Jeff? What will be next? Questioning.... Trista? *faints away in utter shock and disbelief*

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  32. OT to Nina and McKee.

    I wish to apologize to you both. It is easy to blame what happened on FFA and the administrators. That is not the case. I am not an administrator, I am only a moderator and was on duty when the troubles started. Unfortunately, due to circumstances, no one was moderating when the situation culminated. The point is, if I had taken a strong stance it may have never escalated.

    You both contributed and I thank you for that.

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    1. Thank you Lee. But should you not take this issue up on your own blog? Why address it here? You know who the problem is. We all do. The admin at FFA refuse to address it. Sad,

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    3. My coffee has kicked in...Lee, I am confused. Is MM not an admin? She was present. The remarks made by Penny remain unchallenged on your blog.

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    4. Penny: "What interests me less is the manipulation exhibited by those who want to control what anybody thinks or says especially if the subject is surrounding the activities and attitudes of the DiPietros. ( Trista is alway s fair game .) I dislike the threats and flounces continually perpetuated by same posters: “Goodbye! You won’t have irreplaceable me to kick around anymore!” — two years of this dreck. it’s dishonest."

      Lee- you thanked Penny for the "compliment" and that was it.

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    5. My last comment because this truly is a waste of my time: Penny's comments, filled with logical fallacies (if you question Trista you are a "Dip supporter" or "skirt" in love with him or if you suggest that blog moderators actually moderate when unfounded personal attacks are made against others it means the targets of those attacks have control issues and it has nothing to do with enforcing civility or if you don't have a pet theory you are a wishy-washy fence-sitter or if you don't lynch the DiPietros you are somehow complicit and yes this is a run-on sentence) have done nothing but divide people and helped facilitate said "flounces." Do you realize how many people jumped ship from your blog because of how poorly they were treated? Do you not recall the term "McKeeKittyed?" I even started my own blog and Penny advanced his/her platform from YOUR blog by making ad hominem attacks against me and you all proudly asserted it was fine.

      I have never attacked ANYONE, not even TRISTA. I asked hard questions, fair questions, but I never accused anyone of being a killer, or fat and ugly (which you do on your blog). I never even attacked Penny. I simply requested that he/she STOP and since Penny does not I asked you to address it. I never even asked for Penny to be banned or to leave, as Penny rudely "suggested" to me. And why do I question the DiPietros less? Because your blogs have it covered!

      Your blog supports bullying and defamatory remarks (remember, if it's true, it's not libel, so you can't compare confirmed drug abuse with speculation) and I want NO part of it. Are you helping keep Ayla's name out there? Yes, and because of that I still wish you well. It IS your blog and I respect that.

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    6. Clarifications: Lee, I have not seen you call Phoebe or Elisha fat and ugly, but on J4A such remarks were rampant and unchallenged.

      Re the compliment I meant to include the whole post where Penny thanks you for your restraint, etc. But my point remains that you did not challenge the attacks.

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    7. Nina, people get back what they give out. Lance call chicks fat and ugly, seems someone found a photo of Phoebe and Elisha that illustrated that the "chicks" he knows are not far from the same description he so callously called others. Give it out, expect it back.

      As far as any of the blogs, everyone participating has the right to their opinions and to express them in any manner they wish. The problem comes when the topic of discussion becomes more about how people are communicating, then what they are communicating. After all this time, it should be expected that there isn't much new to hash out and most people have firmly decided, not only where they stand, but they have already decided where others stand.

      If everyone could ignore the way things are expressed and just concentrate on WHAT was said, the discussion would stay on Ayla. Most participants on all sides of the fence are just frustrated with the fact that any child could go missing for this long and no movement seems to have been made at all.

      Out there somewhere is Ayla and out there somewhere are people who know the truth about what happened. It's those people who know, that are lying and withholding information that could end this all, that should be looked at. I would say at least half of us and the LE know who those people are.

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    8. Thank you for speaking out for those that have been maligned on U4A and FFA, Foil.

      MM...I am reminded of this statement you made on your debut post on FFA: "We will not be involved in ridiculous blog wars. If people can’t be respectful to others, we’ll shut this down too. We are only doing this for Ayla."

      It is unfortunate that your words ring hollow, MM. Many anticipated that you would address a certain poster for his/her vicious attacks against others. It never happened. Not only did it never happen, but you implied that returning to your blog after leaving in frustration is somehow insincere and controlling. I had hoped I could contribute some balance to your blog.

      Wishing you and your blog well. We know you are all in it for Ayla. That is what matters.

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    9. McKee I'm sorry you feel the way you do. I tried to give a subtle warning to Penny at one point. I did address the issue but in general to all and not just singling out Penny because others had made comments along the lines as Penny's. I do not think leaving a blog in frustration is insincere or controlling, I tried to point out how others might mistakenly see it that way. I think respectful debates keep everyone on their toes and it's not the same old "I agree".

      http://friendsforayla.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/what-would-you-do/#comment-1439
      http://friendsforayla.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/what-would-you-do/#comment-1490
      http://friendsforayla.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/what-would-you-do/#comment-1491

      Out of respect for Tori and Katie, I'll not continue in the OT comments that are taking away from other discussions here. Just know that everyone is welcome and I'm sorry that feelings were hurt.

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    10. mountain mama I think you miss the point. nina and mckekitty have been attacked on blogs that you administrate. you allow penny to do this. I don't think you or lee or dee need to apologize but it would be nice if penny's comments were moderated before she can slam others. I enjoyed reading at friends 4 ayla, but got turned off how some have been allowed to be treated. you made it clear that nina and mckekitty will never be taken seriously because they left your blogs some times only to return. I didn't always agree with there comments, but I appreciated them. they were good voices for ayla imho.

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  33. Anonymous @ 8:08, you said:

    --Nina, people get back what they give out. Lance call chicks fat and ugly, seems someone found a photo of Phoebe and Elisha that illustrated that the "chicks" he knows are not far from the same description he so callously called others. Give it out, expect it back.--

    Why not call Lance fat and ugly then? Calling his sister and mother fat & ugly isn't insulting him; it's insulting Elisha and Phoebe. But you knew that, didn't you?

    These insults and getting people back for all of their bad deeds they put out is doing nothing, NOTHING for Ayla. It's quite pathetic, actually.

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  34. Aside from all the bickering, does anyone really feel that we the public or the investigators will ever know what happened to Ayla?

    It looks like a cold case to me. They are not going to find Ayla alive. Ayla's case is not like the other returnees from kidnappings often cited to give hope that Ayla may come back

    Ayla's vanishing is more like the cases in which children disappear from their homes under the cover of parental sleeping, often amid suspicious circumstances, like Hailey Dunne, Haley Cummings, Baby Lisa, and others mentioned here by Rose. In other words, there are no witnesses to the kidnapping of Ayla as there were in cases like Jaycee Dugard and Elizabeth Smart. Justin, Elisha and Courtney are not "witnesses" who saw Ayla kidnapped. They were all zonked to the max suposedly when Ayla was taken. And we only have their unverified stories that they awoke to find her gone. At least LE seems to think that their stories are phoney.

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  35. http://forayla.blogspot.com/2014/02/lets-play-pretend.html#comment-form

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  36. In response to MM at FFA re: LE Statements about the Blood

    Here's one you missed:

    1/24/2014 - Det. Ryan Brockway, MSP

    "Just because there's blood there doesn't prove anything. It doesn't prove what happened. You could run a hundred different scenarios and know it doesn't prove who did what to whom. You could run again, another hundred different scenarios. So you take that blood and you try to think up of a number of things you can do with the blood to help answer some of the questions. And that's what we're in the process of. Unfortunately just the crime lab side of things, just that alone, takes months and months and months, to analyze it and to do different things with it, to hopefully answer different questions. So we're waiting on that..."

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    1. Thank you anonymous.

      In regards to not publishing information in an active on going investigation, I just have to ask, What was the Case For Ayla? What was The Case For Trista?, The Taking of Ayla? Did those not contain information about an active investigation? Were they not linked to and talked about on FFA?
      Hypocrisy.

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    2. Ok back up.

      FFA won’t publish a detective’s name or quote and they say it should be kept confidential as it pertains to an ongoing investigation?

      Who posted Ashley’s comment to being with?? FFA did!

      And how many on FFA have heard the tape or know what is on it? Why if it was “CONFIDENTIAL”????

      FYI - If it was “confidential” MSP would not be telling Ashley, just how lame are you trying to make MSP out to be?

      Very hypocritical if you ask me, after all the crap I have seen posted by them , FFA has the audacity to pull this shit this late in the game and claim its “confidential” and pertains to an open investigation?
      Unlike EVERYTHING else you have posted …. THIS IS WHAT YOU FIND TO BE CONFIDENTIAL????? R U SERIOUS?

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    3. For Dee.

      This is what M.M had to say about where the info came from:

      .... FFA. MM: "Her source is LE McKee. No link, no document. I know the conversation happened as she said. So we will stamp it hearsay for now. OK?


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    4. Wow! What a mess. It wasn't too bright to post Ashley's comments concerning this matter. I sure hope Ashley had permission to tape the conversation and release it to certain people. I wonder if Detective Brockway is aware of this situation?

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    7. I don't know, Dana. But Brockway sounded familiar. I found this on U4A: Ashley says: January 22, 2014 at 6:52 pm

      "I am beyond words and ready to start asking them my own questions and giving my own answers! Can anyone do me a favor and see wherein Aylas case if any does MSP seargant Brockway? given name Ryan. thanks guys and hope to see some of you Saturday."

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    8. I don't know Dana. We can't know for sure if this was an authentic recording or not. Just like we can't know for sure if anything leaked in this case is authentic or not.

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    9. Maybe Ashley can come on here and tell us the circumstances of this tape.

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  37. Thank you Anonymous @ 12:41 pm.

    I'm going to assume that this is an authentic conversation. If so, it sure tells us a lot doesn't it?
    LE does not know what happened to Ayla,

    "Just because there's blood there doesn't prove anything. It doesn't prove what happened"

    "Unfortunately just the crime lab side of things, just that alone, takes months and months and months, to analyze it and to do different things with it, to hopefully answer different questions. So we're waiting on that."

    It appears that their testing is not complete.
    Just this small bit of information answers a lot of questions for me.


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    1. Here's what I find interesting...

      "So you take that blood and you try to think up of a number of things you can do with the blood to help answer some of the questions."

      I notice he says "things", not "tests". What kind of "things" could you do with blood? Maybe create some sort of slideshow and choose a few of those "hundred" different scenarios to show different suspects/family members to try and elicit some sort of response to answer "different questions?"

      Hmmm, makes you think....

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    2. That's an interesting point Grace for Ayla.

      I have always felt that the maternal and paternal families were shown different evidence, and told different things.

      Why else would one family have hope, and the other feel they saw "unequivocal evidence" that Ayla is deceased?

      Could that be a reason MSP would be embarrassed if Trista revealed what was told to her?


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    4. Dana, if they were showing pictures of the basement, home, or items in the home, I don't think they would put "fake" blood on them to create pictures, either for the slideshow or for the luminol pictures. What I am talking about would be using the pictures of what is actually there and possibly manipulating them, or using certain verbage (spatter, blunt force trauma, projectile vomiting, etc.) to paint a specific scenario, in order to illicit whatever response they thought would bring about the results they wanted.

      I hope that makes sense...it's the only thing I can think of for the two different responses each family gave, as A1 pointed out.

      (Hi A1! Big hug)

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    6. (Hi A1! Big hug)

      Thank you Grace.
      Right back at you (((Grace)))

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  38. Why is the quote of that taped conversation on HERE ? It was not on F4A.

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    1. I don't know, Anonymous. But there are some odd comments on FFA about not posting a certain comment because it cannot be verified. If that is the case and there's a connection, why would MM say "I know the conversation happened as she said." How could MM say such a thing unless she heard the conversation?

      I'm baffled.

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    2. Whatever reason it was posted here, I'm thankful

      This quote can and should bring about a lot of questions and discussion.

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    3. So why is J4A allowing a quote from this to be posted here?

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    4. Why not? One reason... Its not confidential information that's why. Its just information "some" people didn't want to share due to its content

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      why wouldn't we allow it here?

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  40. When is this statement supposed to have taken place. If this is at the beginning of the investigation that would make sense as the blood had not been processed yet. I find "to whom" strange. As if he did not know who the blood belonged to. If this statement is recent that would be very strange. Bonnie

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    1. It clearly states the remark was made on 1/24/14

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    2. So supposing the statement was made in 2014 and is accurate that's really weird. After 2 years and 500 thousand dollars we would think that the blood had been analyses, at least most of it, which is why this statement is really weird. Bonnie

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  41. OT: It has come to my attention that there was a comment posted here earlier that attacked ME for a comment I did not post. It has since been deleted. I did NOT post MM's response to me in regards to the tape from FFA. But I'm pleased that is was posted. Those were MM's words to me. However, I did not post it. I have never known MM to lie.

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    1. I would love to address this issue on your blog...if only to defend you. But seeing as I'm controlling, manipulative and insincere, I'm afraid my hands are tied.

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    3. Thank you, Dana. As always, wishing you well.

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    4. So why is nobody who believes Ayla is alive, like Phoebe, worried in the slightest about Ayla with a criminal kidnapper who "cased" Phoebe's house and then took Ayla?

      Phoebe is hoping some "Good Samaritan" wil reveal where Ayla is, after all this time. Or maybe the Good Samaritan will search all three-year-old girls wandering about Walmart to see if their blue eyes match up to Ayla's.

      Meanwhile Phoebe will just sit around like the rest of her family and wait until LE brings Ayla home and then "finds her".. All of us are enlisted to find her, too. How about the DiPietro family and friends? Uh, not so much. They're all exempt from the hard work.

      Forget the blood and the LIP, the DiPietros strory of an abduction is simply claptrap. They never have even make a pretense of caring how Ayla is faring because they know she is dead.

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  42. Lee said...
    "Just a thought. Maybe those wanting to put credence in the comment posted from the interview with the detective should wait to see what else comes out before they jump on the band wagon".

    I'm trying to understand your comment.
    Are you saying that I should not give any credence to what detective Brockway said?
    And what band wagon should I not jump on?

    That LE does not know for sure what happened to Ayla? That they are still doing testing? That it is possible she is not deceased?
    Any little crumb that gives me that hope, I'm not only jumping on. I'm leaping on!!
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    As far as the rest of your comment, I'm not sure what you're implying...That I don't know what else was said in the interview? No I don't (unlike you).
    That I might have different thoughts if I had heard the rest of it? I might, but don't have that perspective.
    Maybe you're suggesting that the Det...wasn't being forthright with Ashley? Maybe not, after all this is an investigation. He's looking for information, any way he can get it.
    Then I have to ask, if I shouldn't give credence to what was said in this interview, by a MSP detective conducting an investigation, why should I give any credence to anything said to Trista by a MSP detective, conducting an investigation?







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    1. Excellent points, A1. Thank you!

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    2. Hi A1.

      Respectfully, please don't personalize my comment. I made a general comment, not pointed at anyone. If you want to know my thought behind it, I will try to explain.

      First of all, is this interview Ashley recorded legit? I believe it is, but I don't know as a fact. This is not meant as a slam against Ashley, I was just trying to look at it objectively.

      Secondly, I don't think Ashley authored the comment. Is the comment an actual transcription? I think it probably is, but I don't know it is.

      Thirdly, the comment seems to be cut off. If so, what was the rest that was said?

      Fourth, if someone was inclined to put faith in this comment because it goes with their thoughts on the subject, what about any further "leaks" that may come out. If this one is accepted and others from the same source rejected, then it opens one up to criticism for being selective based on having taken a side.

      "Maybe you're suggesting that the Det...wasn't being forthright with Ashley?" No, it never entered my mind. It is a good point you've brought up though.

      "Then I have to ask, if I shouldn't give credence to what was said in this interview, by a MSP detective conducting an investigation, why should I give any credence to anything said to Trista by a MSP detective, conducting an investigation?" Who you believe is up to you and your own thought process. I have gone on record far too many times on why I believe what I believe, and have kept watch for a good reason to change my mind. I still stand by what I've stated.

      "Any little crumb that gives me that hope, I'm not only jumping on. I'm leaping on!!" I don't blame you. Ayla having passed is not what any of us want to have happened.

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    3. "Then I have to ask, if I shouldn't give credence to what was said in this interview, by a MSP detective conducting an investigation, why should I give any credence to anything said to Trista by a MSP detective, conducting an investigation?"

      Easy and obvious distinction. The MSP personnel visiting Trista with the slide show were not there in the capacity of conducting an investigation. The three detectives came with a grief counselor to share with Trista information about her daughter who is the subject of the investigation.

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    4. Maybe a grief counselor to gauge her reaction? That's a possibility. Just saying.

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    5. Lee,
      Thank you for responding, and expounding on your comment.
      I wanted to understand your thoughts.

      CG,.
      I didn't mention a slideshow.

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    6. "The MSP personnel visiting Trista with the slide show were not there in the capacity of conducting an investigation. The three detectives came with a grief counselor to share with Trista information about her daughter who is the subject of the investigation."
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      Respectfully, CG, you lift your information directly from Jeff and Trista and somehow expect to be taken seriously. Please cite where MSP mentions three detectives, a grief counselor, and a slide show presentation. Oh, and you failed to mention Alex and Melissa Fazzi...you know, the ones that can corroborate Trista's recollections of that meeting.

      You trot out the Case for Ayla as factual and indisputable because you penned it. Last I knew, not a single detail in that article has been given the stamp of approval by MSP.

      Reminds me of that trip to Portland on December 17th piece that you penned.. You know...the trip that never happened. The one Jeff had to retract after you ran with it.

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    7. A1, My apologies if I misunderstood, when you mentioned the detectives meeting with Trista, I thought you were referring to the meeting where the blood evidence was disclosed.

      Question Everything, I believe that would be a serious breach of professional ethics for a grief counselor.

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    8. McKeekitty, I have no desire to argue with you. Believe what you want to believe. I do suggest however that you apply the rigorous standards you demand of everyone else to your own allegations or you may wake up with egg on your face one day.

      With your intelligence and your track record for willingness to change your stripes (sorry, I couldn't resist the cat reference :) ) you are not picking up as many of the puzzle pieces and fitting them into place as I would expect you to.

      Ah, but it's Friday night.

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    9. CG...nor do I wish to argue with you.

      I would much prefer waking up with egg on my face than damning potentially innocent people. I would like to know what happened to Ayla.

      I'm sorry I disappoint you with not applying my intelligence as you see fit. But if I may borrow from your comment, "CG...you are not picking up as many of the puzzle pieces and fitting them into place as I would expect you to."

      Peace!

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    10. "I would much prefer waking up with egg on my face than damning potentially innocent people. I would like to know what happened to Ayla."

      I was not speaking of who you think is/may/may not be responsible for Ayla's disappearance when I suggested applying rigorous standards to your own words. I was talking about the post you had just made with allegations about me. Ironic that your next words should be concern about not damning innocent people...

      I was not trying to suggest you apply your intelligence as I see fit, only that you would have more facts and reasonable inferences of your own at your disposal to interpret as you see fit if you perhaps stood back from the fray a bit and took a close look at some of what has been said recently and the context in which it came up. It might give you some useful insights.

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    11. "I was not trying to suggest you apply your intelligence as I see fit, only that you would have more facts and reasonable inferences of your own at your disposal to interpret as you see fit if you perhaps stood back from the fray a bit and took a close look at some of what has been said recently and the context in which it came up. It might give you some useful insights."
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      Sorry, Carol. I don't speak or respond in riddles. But I'm highly impressed with your writing skills if that is what you were fishing for.

      Thank you for your sage advice. However, I choose to look at this case on its merits with my own eyes. I don't see a case, Carol. You do.

      Again...peace to you.

      Perhaps you can

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    12. Sorry...the "Perhaps you can" was unintended. It was how I started my response, but it ended up at the bottom.

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    13. CG, could you please confirm or deny this:

      Alex and Melissa Fazzi were present at the "slide show."

      Could you please simply state if you contacted them directly to verify there presence?

      No snarkiness here. No hidden agenda. No accusations.

      TIA

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    14. I run a freelance writing business. When I agree to take on work for a client, the particulars of the work generally are between me and my client. As I'm sure you realize on reflection, most people don't want the ins and outs of their private business blasted all over the internet. And of course it doesn't bode well for a small business person to engage in practices that are a detriment to business.

      I clarified two things in the past to keep discussions from spiraling into the land of incorrect assumptions, with my client's concurrence, when the situation was very busy. It isn't now, and I am not the person who should answer your question.

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    15. So you were paid and profited from it, CG? I had once asked you if you were being paid for your contributions and you stated no, that it would be a conflict of interest.

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    16. Also, speaking of professional ethics which you mentioned above re the grief counselor, aren't journalists supposed to verify things before reporting them?

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    17. You obviously have an agenda here and I am not interested in it. Your representations are incorrect.

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    18. Of course I have an agenda here! It's Ayla and the truth!

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    19. Well said, Foil!

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    20. CG, I don't care if you were paid or if you were working pro-bono for your "client." The question is really simple. Did you personally communicate with Alex, Melissa and/or Trista, or was everything in the Case for Ayla channeled through Jeff?

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    21. question everythingFebruary 22, 2014 at 2:54 PM

      CG, no it would not be a breach of ethics. If the counselor was employed by msp or the attorney general's office to make an evaluation of her response and also to assist her in her response then no. I'm sure that Trista had to sign more than one release for that meeting. If you think that law enforcement doesn't use backward tactics to get the information they need, you should reevaluate your chosen career or branch out to more research, which general consensus seems to say, would lend some credibility to your words.

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  43. It is unfortunate that "some" people are privy to this supposed conversation while others are left to fumble in the dark. I personally don't want to hear this conversation between Ashley and Ryan Brockway if it in fact it took place. My curiosity doesn't eclipse my interest in a "clean" investigation.

    To the best of my knowledge, Maine is a one-party-consent state. I don't believe Ashley did anything illegal in taping the conversation. But IMO, she demonstrated poor judgment if indeed she covertly recorded this supposed conversation on her cell phone and released it to others. It shows total disregard for MSP conducting an active and ongoing investigation regarding Ayla Reynolds. Not only a poor reflection on Ashley, but those that condoned her conduct on FFA.

    How sad for Ayla that someone (Ashley) would want to bask in their 15 minutes of fame at this child's expense. So many investigative details have been leaked and released. I'm sure the intentions were good, but this case has been fucked with.

    Once again, I'm sure I'll be accused of making this post all about ME!

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