Thursday, November 7, 2013

What Does It Matter?

 What Does It Matter?


After reading through the comments today, I am a little disappointed at some of them. When did it  become okay for all the personal attacks? I thought I had made it clear that I would not tolerate them here? I have been tied up in my own personal life these past few weeks and also spending my free time helping to launch a campaign for Emma Baldwin on Facebook so have neglected the blog and Ayla's case. Apparently it was not something I was allowed to do because I need to be classroom monitor here as we don't have adults that can discuss and debate this issue without things always turning personal.

For two years people wanting justice for Ayla that think Justin is guilty have asked for mainly one thing. For someone that was there that night to talk. IF Tomato Soup was Elisha which I doubt, instead of calling her out that she is Elisha, why not use your suspicions to ask questions of her that could be useful to helping uncover what happened to Ayla? To think someone is just going to come onto a blog and say "Hey, I am Elisha... What do you want to know?" Is incredibly naive. However, regardless whether or not Tomato Soup is Elisha is really irrelevant. This blog has always been open to all sides to discuss their opinions on the case and every one here has to right to anonymity just as every one here has a right to their opinion on the case and has just as much right to discuss it her as the next person does.

As far as the comments to Dana, I give him the right to answer what he wants and to delete the ones that have no bearing on Ayla's case. Dana's opinions are not on trial here. He has nothing to do with Ayla's disappearance. You can agree with his opinion or not but again he should not be personally attacked for his opinions. Dana has done a lot on this blog and others to continually keep discussion going about Ayla and has helped moderate here for me. I don't care what he writes on other blogs, he has a right to his opinion as I have a right to mine. He doesn't have to like or praise Trista just because the majority feel they have to defend her and that she can do no wrong. Period. If you want someone to see your point of view, stop trying to shove it down their throats and instead set it on the table in front of them so they can review and observe it on their own. 

With that being said, I will attempt to update this blog shortly. If the comments with the personal attacks don't stop, I will just shut it down and not update it. I don't have the patience or time to be a classroom monitor.

19 comments:

  1. I appreciate what you're trying to do here. I apologize if I got out of line.

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    1. You weren't, you were refusing to engage from what I saw and I don't blame you.

      When peoples tart accusing people of being so and so, it reminds me if the many different people JSTL was accused of being and how many people who had nothing to do with the blog were attacked. It can turn into a lynch mob quickly around here and it needs to stop.

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    2. Refusing to engage? She was launching attacks at people like this:

      "You clearly have a brain that thinks the same way Trista's does. Further conversation with you would be detrimental to my IQ.?"

      "You're useless to Ayla, anon."

      "Do you not see your comments? Why would any rational person continue a conversation with any of you?..."

      My threshold for reading offense into comments online is pretty high as I think people sometimes come across more harshly than they intend so I tried not to assume they intended to be rude or hurtful. These comments appear intentionally rude and insulting. JMO and I don't know or care whether the commenter is Elisha or not. I too tend to doubt it.

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    3. I apparently didn't see all of the comments as many go right to my spam filter in my email. Regardless, no personal attacks are necessary. The only one of the above I see that are out of line is the first one.

      The useless to Ayla comment holds true to anyone here looking to attack and fight as it does nothing to help Ayla.

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    4. Agree that it's both unhelpful and out of line to attack and fight.

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  2. Well Said Tori!!!

    When personal attacks start, discussion stops.
    I thought everyone was here for Ayla, and wanted discussion to continue.

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  3. Ayla needs your help and so do I! Recently I have been working on an awareness campaign for Emma Baldwin and thought it would be a wonderful thing to do for Ayla.

    Here is how it works:
    I want each of you to admin a page for Ayla. I will set up the page and then transfer it to you. Your job is simple. You just share the page to your friends. You can post on the page and add pictures of Ayla if you would like and if you don't have time, you don't have to. There is no minimum requirement to participate except to share the page at least once with your friends. If you want to keep the page updated but don't know what to post there will be a hub page for all admins and I will update it with posts and pictures that you can copy and paste to your individual pages. It doesn't matter what you believe happened to Ayla. I am inviting anyone to join. These pages will not be for either parent. Sole focus is on Ayla and that is all.

    Here is why this will work on generating massive amounts of exposure for Ayla:
    I have a page and I have 300+ Facebook friends. I share my page to those people. Say 10 of those people hit like and share my page to their 300+ friends (300x10=3000) Out of those 3000 people if 100 hit like and share it to their 300 friends we now have 30,000 people aware of Ayla and it doesn't stop there, it just continues on and on. That is for one page, now imagine if there were 100 pages with different people who don't share any mutual friends across the world sharing Ayla's story? That 30,000 quickly multiplied to 3,000,000 and all each person had to do to get to that point was spend two minutes inviting their friends to your page. Just think of the exposure if you decided to update the page with your thoughts or photos etc...

    If you want to help me, all you need to do is send me a friend request and a message saying I want to help in the awareness project. I have been working to design the pages and start the group page for admins. I will assign you a page and walk you through how to invite people. I will personally answer any questions you have. Please help me make the world aware of Ayla Reynolds!

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    1. This sounds like a great awareness campaign. As a supporter of Ayla I thank you.
      I hope it works well, and generates thousands of pages.
      I'd be glad to have a page, but do not have a Facebook.

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  4. Tori, asking tomato soup questions about his/her comments is viewed as an attack? I'm really surprised on your view of the comments. I don't see tomato soup refusing to engage, besides him/her "making waves", and only then refusing to engage in decent conversation about his/her comments.

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    1. No I see accusing of being Elisha as attacking. I have no problems with asking others to clarify their opinions, comments, or viewpoints but no one should be badgering or demanding anything of anyone. This post wasn't written to admonish any one person. It was a blanket comment and used two examples (Accusing Tomato Soup of being Elisha and the comments made towards Dana). The blogs have been hostile lately and there is no need for it

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    2. I can clarify that first comment. If the commenter has a way of thinking that is in line with Trista's way of thinking, there is no point in trying to present any other thought. Arguing with someone who was already unwilling to hear what I had to say makes me feel like a broken record. The more I repeat myself, which is my experience here, the more stupid I feel for even engaging. There truly is no point in arguing with the posters here. No point in presenting your opinion. No point in trying to have a civil conversation. Most have made their minds up and aren't willing to hear anything that doesn't agree with them. If I knew where Justin is working, I wouldn't tell anyone for his own protection and livelihood. If I knew where and what Justin does with his soon, I would not tell anyone for the protection of his son and their relationship. It's not my place to share that information. That is not anyone's business. Justin does not drag his son into this circus. If that's what trustees chooses then that's her choice. If you like it great, I don't. I think my stay here is done. Thank you, Tori. You are doing a good thing for Ayla and Emma.

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    3. Trista chooses*

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    4. Oh and anon, my comments were making waves. They were also a rebuttal to a comment about why Trista does what she does. Telling me how hateful I am and how full of hate my life must be was a sure way to stop me from engaging. You don't know who I am or anything about my life.

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    5. I feel you are a true advocate for justice for Ayla. Thank you for caring.

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    6. Tomato 12:03 I don't see the logic there. I don't agree that that's how Trista thinks, myself, but assuming it is for the sake of discussion, and assuming a commenter thinks that way too, why conclude the commenter couldn't see any other viewpoint? People change their views all the time. Persuasive arguments get them to see another side of things that maybe they hadn't considered. If someone has a dysfunctional attitude, it's quite possible they are copying learned behavior and haven't stepped back to consider other ways of doing things. Isn't the gracious and most mature response to give them the benefit of the doubt and give them the chance to look at things differently, not by attacking what they do (or you perceive them as doing) but by pointing out the positives of a different approach?

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    7. I do not believe that anyone knows how Trista thinks or feels, except Trista herself. Anyone else's opinion on that is merely speculation on their part.

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  5. Actually I think 99.9% of the people who blog for Ayla are true advocates for justice. I just think sometimes personalities clash and we may get a little carried away. It has been 2 years and we want answers. The thing is the people we want to answer them usually don't read here, and won't answer us. We still can't give up not until Ayla is found.

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  6. I reposted the six questions post feel free to continue commenting here as well.

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