Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Definitive Answers At Last


 Definitive Answers At Last

For the past few months I have attempted to look at this case with an open mind. I have not read into evidence released by anyone that wasn't backed by LE. it has been difficult to do because my heart has always felt that what happened to Ayla was an accident that was covered up for some reason, most likely because it was their neglect that caused the accident to begin with.

I have never felt that it was likely that Trista took Ayla and brought her to some undisclosed location where she has remained ever since. If Trista was desperate enough to get Ayla back into her custody, she had to have known immediately that this would never happen once the police started their investigation. She would have had no choice but to confess to police early on or take the risk of never being able to see Ayla. The same holds true with her having a family member take Ayla. 

Living in Maine and knowing how many people, including myself, that don't leave their doors or windows locked or if they do, routinely leave a spare key hidden under a rock outside made it easier for me to believe that an abduction could have occurred. I believe it is possible for someone to sneak into a house in the middle of the night and abduct a child and leave undetected but that person would have had to stake the house out for some time before the actual abduction to learn the family's routine and the layout of the house in order to pull an abduction off. The mere fact that there were extra people in the home that night makes that theory seem very far fetched. No abductor watching a home would go through with an abduction knowing there were extra bodies in the house and therefore run the risk of being detected. It doesn't pass the smell test as McCausland would say. The evidence of blood also made that a hard theory to pass off as being the likely scenario. 

Up until tonight there has been much debate from both sides about the blood. Whose blood it was and how much of it was there. LE had released very little about the blood. The majority of the blood evidence was released to the public by Trista and many did not believe she was accurately relaying his information.  LE has never confirmed or denied the evidence released by Trista with the help of Jeff and some others, myself included although minutely. Tonight however was a turning point for me. I can no longer sit back and play devil's advocate and try to interpret things differently so as to please everyone. I will always be respectful of all opinions because everyone has a right to their opinions and I will never berate or degrade someone who doesn't agree with me. I also will still not write posts describing gory death scenarios. It isn't in me anymore. 

Some of you may be wondering what that turning point was for me tonight, others will know exactly what I am talking about. 


Steve McCausland was interviewed and he made one statement that really struck me. He stated that MSP was aware of the evidence Trista released and they had NO CRITICISM of it. He may not be able to officially confirm or deny what she has told us but that was pretty damn close to a confirmation and enough for me to believe what Trista has told us about the blood, where it was found and who it belonged to. 

The question for me is no longer, do we have it wrong and Ayla was abducted but more what happened to Ayla that night and why was it covered up and even more importantly where is she now?

People will continue to believe what they believe. I can't change that but for once we got a definitive answer from MSP when McCausland also said THERE WAS BLOOD IN THE HOUSE AND THAT BLOOD WAS AYLA's. He did not say some was Ayla's or believed to be Ayla's. If Trista was told that it was enough blood to believe that Ayla is likely deceased then I have no reason to believe otherwise. Do you?
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  1. If u think this is definitive then you are delusional!

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    1. Well I have been called a whole lot worse...

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    2. Tori, at least you are honest about your opinions. I happened to agree, that the truth of what happened to Ayla can be found in the evidence from the DiPietro home.

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    3. Dana to both I guess :) and thank you Anon, I have always tried to stay true to myself

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  2. Great post Tori. Something happened to Ayla in that house, facts are facts.

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  3. Finally!!! A voice of reason!

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  4. Well said Tori. I agree.

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  5. “We know Trista has disclosed a number of things recently. We have no criticism of what she said. We are not going to confirm or deny specifics,” said McCausland.

    Same here Tori. Although I have long believed Ayla died in the house that day I have been waiting to hear some sort of statement, anything, from MSP that confirms or lends credence to what Trista released. When I heard McCausland's comment I was surprised because he's usually so tight lipped but I was glad it was finally said - even if it was in McCauslands strange round about way of saying things. "We have no criticism of what she said" is a pretty straight forward statement. He could have declined to comment, said it's an investigative detail I won't get into or said I do not agree with the specifics of what Trista has released. As spokesman for MSP him having no criticism of what she said in regards to the evidence she was shown confirms for me she was honest about The Case for Ayla.

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  6. I agree with you 100 %

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  7. Tori, I already believed that Ayla was fatally injured at 29 Violette for many reasons. However, I agree with you that this statement by Steve McCausland is about as close as the MSP is going to get in terms of acknowledging the general accuracy of Trista, Alex and Melissa's recollection of the blood evidence. McCausland and those he speaks for had seen the evidence far enough in advance of this interview, before it was published here and at U4A, that he was in a position to think carefully about his response. This statement is a strong signal IMO.

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  8. I've always had respect for you Tori. Sometimes I've honestly wondered, "why is she saying or thinking this or that", "why does it seem like she's flip flopping". Sometimes it's honestly shocked me, and sometimes it's admittedly made me upset, although I've never voiced my upset towards you or your thinking on any blogs (except once last week when I said I was surprised on your view of something here, but I wasn't disrespectful), because I figure deep down, you've always been respectful, there must be reasons for your thoughts. Obviously sometimes upset feelings get in the way of clear thinking. I know that you've been here for AYLA since day one. Actually, the fact that you've voiced your thoughts on Trista, but can put that aside, to see what LE has said, makes my respect for you skyrocket through the roof. Like or dislike of any of the adults really has no bearing on what actually happened to Ayla.

    It takes an open honest mind to see things for what they are, whether they like or dislike someone. It's not delusional, it's honesty.

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  9. Nice post Tori.

    I understand how many see this as a definitive statement from McCausland.
    Although, he pretty much said the same just over a month ago.

    .......McCausland said, "Trista has a right to say whatever she feels is appropriate, and we're not going to criticize her for that. No one in Maine would put themselves in Trista Reynolds' shoes."

    http://www.wcsh6.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=257687

    It didn't cause me to believe anything *definitively* then, as it doesn't now.
    I don't dismiss this comment either though. I consider it strongly.

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    1. A1 I understand where you are come from and there is always the factor that police have it wrong which cannot be discounted, I am holding on to the belief that LE in Maine are competent and that there are enough people working the case that of all of them are seeing the same thing based on the evidence that we have yet to hear of and see that the context of McCausland's statement is the most definitive answer we have seen to date and probably will see until after an arrest as far as the validity of Trista's claims about the blood and Ayla being deceased. I have tried to play Devil's advocate for some long that I looked for any discrepancies and tried to explain his comments as not being definitive or being vague biut for once this one covered all those bases. It seemed to me that McCausland was aware of what he was saying and chose those words very carefully so there wasn't any room for debate

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    2. Sorry about the typos, my iPad autocorrects the most ridiculous things. If to of and so to some...

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    3. I understand and appreciate your view as well Tori.

      I too think MSP is competent...even though it may appear as I don't.
      Don't ask me to explain that...I don't think I could. :)

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    4. Even though we think LE is competent, we can still express our frustrations over how long justice takes and due process. Because we express that frustration doesn't mean that we don't believe LE knows how to do their job.

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  10. I respect your opinion Tori as you know I always have. You have never held back your feelings of what happened, and you have been more than fair.

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  11. Ayla's investigation, will be, in time, designated as a cold case, IMO

    Aren't cold cases in most jurisdictions, after such a designation, then opened to new investigations and even media and public scrutiny if they are formally called a "cold case"? Usually many years after the crime is first investigated?

    Until a cold case is officially deemed one, then the investigation of said case remains in secrecy. If if there are no sunshine laws in a state available for the public or media to bring investigations out into the open, then the case goes to zero..

    The MSP probably has a good idea of what happened to Ayla in that house, but they have no idea what happened to her body.

    Even if Ayla's body were to be found --, a decided long shot -- what could it tell investigators abou her COD? Not much.

    Can't you hear the DiPietro and Roberts' supporters screaming, "The stranger abductor killed her!" or more reliably, "Trista killed her!"

    This is just another dance by McCauseland waltzing to the same old tune.They are not going to make a move to bring justice to this little baby until they're sure of a slam dunk.

    Without a body, the perp or perps in/of that house remain free to accuse the child's mother or relatives of hidingAyla. .And free to have their supporters defame and accuse her mother of anything which comes to their crafty minds.



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    1. I have to agree on the cold case. So what do we do now? Do we all just give up hope on finding her alive? Do we talk about how Justin may have done it? Blame DHHS for everything concerning Justin having Ayla? Blame LE for not making any arrests? Whats next?

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    2. There isn't much we can do but continue to talk about Ayla so every one knows we won't give up n getting her justice. We continue to share her story regardless of what we feel happened to her. We continue to share news updates. No one has to discuss that Justin did it or how it happened or blame LE and especially not give up hope. There are law enforcement officers who will take care of most of that. Our role as the public is only to keep awareness of her and share her story

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    3. Sounds like a plan. Glad your here for direction your the greatest.

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    4. What we do now is some how put pressure on those that saw Ayla last to start talking. I say reporters can put that pressure on by camping out in front of their house, following them. This has gone on long enough and Ayla doesn't deserve this to be a cold case. People need to stop shitting on Trista in order to take the attention off of the people who were then when whatever happened to Ayla. A lawyer advising Justin to keep his mouth shut to me is criminal and anyone that thinks that is a good idea is criminal to me. Why would he keep his mouth shut if he was innocent?

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    5. We can't put pressure on the ones that saw Ayla last because they don't read here.

      Reporters can only do what their supervisors want them to do and that is cover stories that sell papers. Camping out on their doorstep may work for one edition then it is old news, it won't work day after day.

      What people say about Trista has no effect on the attention LE has on the people who where there, and LE's attention is the only one that matters.

      In my opinion the only way anyone is going to get caught is if they confess, revisit the site where Ayla is hidden, new evidence is introduced, or the person that did it does it again thinking they can get away with it again.

      The thing about death is it is final no one gets a take over, and Ayla doesn't get to experience the joys of growing up like she should have.

      All we can do is keep her name out there and pray someone responsible for taking her life grows a conscience, or slips up.

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    6. Dana I thought you believe Ayla was alive out there somewhere and that someone abducted her?

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    7. I do and that is what I am hoping and praying. What I wrote is in respect to the anon 8:35 opinion. I can't change their mind but I can look at it with an open one.

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    8. That is very thoughtful Dana. Congrats to someone who doesn't attack. We are all here for Ayla. Ayla needs the answers out there. I wish one other blog would stop the attacking also. Thank You Dana B. SLS

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  12. A fine post Tori. Thank you.

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  13. IMO_Justin has hidden behind so many women. He doesn't speak himself, he lets all the women speak instead. You can be assured there is no way Justin will ever let himself be arrested, I think he will commit suicide first. He is a coward and pathetic and he knows that none of these women will be able to go to prison and protect him. We may never know what happened to Ayla. We may never find out the answers. Rest in Peace Baby Girl. We will never forget you!

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  14. I totally agree with you Tori..and I'm happy to see it in writing!
    I have always thought Ayla was injured and possibly died in Phoebes house. The question for me is who helped Justin..i mean i dont believe he is capable of many action, thoughts, or emotions( unless its rage) with out the help of a women..so which one helped him cover up.. my bet is on Phoebe..... IMO

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    1. I think all three women associated with that night are helping him. I think Phoebe is the prime mover and navigator, though .Add Derek Tudela to the list, also. And can one leave out Heidi?

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  15. Thank you everyone for the nice words. When I came back to the blogging world I knew only one thing, I didn't want to be a part of the hate and blogging wars anymore. I was humbled by learning that I didn't have all the answers in this case no matter how much I thought I did and for me to force my opinion on anyone was wrong. I wanted to provide a forum where EVERYONE no matter what their opinion could discuss the case and be respectful and respected for their right to their opinion. My goal was that once a dialogue was started maybe people would start to understand where someone with an opposing opinion was coming from. There was opposition from the start and an unwillingness for others to accept another's opinion but for awhile before everyone jumped ship the blog had succeeded in that.

    People may not have understood or liked what I was doing but it is only fair that there be a place where both sides can be welcomed and I still wish that were the case and people from both points of view will still comment here and join in on many discussion but they seemed to have left for a different blog where they feel more comfortable and that is fine. One thing I have always done is speak my mind and I have never flip flopped on what I think or believe but I learned to try to look at things the way someone else might be and not to jump to conclusions. I have always said i don't care for either parent and think they both have issues and despite it being quite unpopular to say and gets me a lot of flack, I am going to continue to say my opinion because I have a right to that.

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    1. Hey Tori! I didn't mean thar you were actually flip flopping. I meant that in my mind, that was what I thought. Like I said, upset feelings can sometimes cloud clear thinking. I respect that you speak your mind. Sometimes I wasn't sure why, or if you were flip flopping (not that you were; my own thoughts), but I can see that you can put your personal feelings of the parents aside, and you are here for AYLA. That in itself is respectable.

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    2. I know you didn't mean that but others have said it to me before so it was something more than a few thought which is okay.

      I had in the beginning been very supportive of Trista but I never made it a secret what I thought of certain things she has said or done and it wasn't the email from Trista and the accusations of me breaking up Becca and Jeff that made me no longer support her. It was a culmination of events but the biggest being no gratitude or gratefulness for the things many have done for her daughter and I don't mean blogs but money donated, events planned, etc. it really doesn't matter now but I have still always said I did not think Trista took Ayla. I am still not comfortable calling justin a murderer or anyone who was there that night because we don't know what happened and we don't have all the evidence. Thank you though for your comments. I appreciate your honesty

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  16. Does anyone know where the text transcripts or whatever they would be called, originated from? I'm not sure why only Trista's part of the conversation was released. I can't make a judgment, so to speak, on them, without seeing the other side of the conversation. Who knows what the other side of the conversation was like? If you deleted half of the comments here, a lot of what would be left wouldn't make sense, it might look out of place, and you wouldn't be able to get a true feel of the conversation; what or why the remaining comments were replying to. JMO

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    1. Bingo, that is probably why JSTL released the transcripts the way she did after obtaining them from Justin or one of his close associates.

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    2. The Portland Press Herald has won an appeal in a unanimous decision by the Maine Supreme Judicial Court ordering authorities to release transcripts of 911 calls in a Biddeford murder case, opening the door on whether other 911 recordings are public record.

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    3. .kjonline.com/news/State_ordered_to_release_911_transcripts_in_Biddeford_murder_case_.html

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  17. OT came across this article while going over old posts. Im thinking this is why the W3 story did not fly with LE and MSP
    http://www.necn.com/01/02/12/Aylas-grandfather-Im-not-buying-it/landing_newengland.html?blockID=623462

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  18. http://bangordailynews.com/2013/11/12/news/mid-maine/former-prostitute-who-became-drug-mule-gets-2%C2%BD-years-in-federal-prison/

    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/22/news/bangor/10-arrested-in-cocaine-oxycodone-distribution-ring-to-appear-in-court/?ref=inline

    Arrested Tuesday were Maurice “Mo” McCray, 31, of Waterville and Farmington; Tara Pelletier, 31, of Waterville; Rodney Lacroix, 23, of Waterville; Justin Lacroix, 25, of Waterville; Jesse Jones, 24, of Waterville; Joshua Blodgett, 20, of Skowhegan; Saul Hernandez, 24, of Augusta; Patrick Hanson, 21, of Winslow; Brian Lemieux, 30, of Winslow; and Cassandra “Cassie” Ware, 22, of Farmington.

    Are any of these people known to hang in the same circles as Justin or Lance or Derek?

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    1. I don't know why but the namet Tara Pelletier sounds familiar.

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    2. I think this was researched before and the only tie was that the LaCroix's are cousins of Lance and Justin or they are friends with one off the LaCroix's cousins I don't exactly remember

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    3. It's sad, almost all of these people have children.

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  19. Tori, the ex-devil’s advocate :z

    Over the course of this investigation, I have also tried to look at the case for Ayla from all possibilities (http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Father-friends-say-its-possible-cops-say-no-way.html?pagenum=full).

    Even the chance that the Maine State Police could be wrong in their conclusions (http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/31/news/mid-maine/police-highly-unlikely-ayla-reynolds-will-be-found-alive/).

    Having always rooted for the underdog myself, perhaps this was an epic tale of David and Goliath; Justin vs. the Maine State Police if you will, but sadly, it was not that epic for Ayla, just a heartless story of neglect, intolerance and cowardice.

    Eyes wide open.

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    1. If in fact it is true that Justin did this to Ayla. I don't understand how Trista's whole family was out of the picture for 59 days and nights. I am not slamming, or pointing fingers, I just don't see how someone didn't see this coming in time to stop it. I know it happens, I don't know if we just get so involved with our own lives that we miss it or we just don't believe it will happen. How do we change this trend?

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    2. Dana; "Trista's whole family was out of the picture for 59 days".. That is not an accurate assumption, by any means.. and even the DHHS records prove otherwise.

      The system failed.

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    3. Well i have asked numerous times if they tried to see Ayla while she was in Waterville those 59 days and nights. I asked if the DiPietro's refused to let them see her . I have never received one answer of who did try or who didn't. The only one I had heard expressed anything was Jessica and her mom, and that was the day Justin took custody. Tristas rehab was 10 days she thought it was safe for Ayla to be there at first.Like I said I am not slamming anyone, how do we change this trend and save children's lives? You can't just blame everything on the system with no documentation of what the family did try to do. Did they go ask for a police escort to go see Ayla? Did they just take no for an answer from the DiPietro's, did they even ask?

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    4. Dana B, It's not a blanket party. You have recently set your self up to be judge and jury. As such, I will not re-cap text messages, phone conversations and medical appointments to you.

      I would ask you to separate your personal trauma and present lifestyle from Trista.. and Ayla.

      You have the last word.

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    5. You are wrong in your assessment. I am not trying to judge anyone or be a jury. I asked with only the intent of trying to figure where we go from here, and try to change the system and trend of children being abused and killed.You said the system failed if we don't know what the family tried how can we try to change things? Maybe you know how the whole system works I do not. I have asked respectfully and accused no one. I have no personal trauma in my life and my lifestyle has nothing to do with anyones.

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    6. When did we as a society begin to rely on "a system" to take care of our children?

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  20. I'm just so very glad to see a forum that 1. You don't have to be invited to 2. You can express your opinion without too much fear of attacks ad nauseum 3. You can comment ( other "Ayla dedicated blogs have comments from guests disabled) and 4. That we are actually talking about Ayla again. The blogs grow quiet when there is little drama to fuel the dialogue. For me that is sad. Ayla is more than a case, a missing person, a possibly deceased child. Ayla's beautiful soul is the inspiration that continues to guide us to still keep her candles lit, her story told and her smile never forgotten.

    Becca Boo

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    1. Ayla is more than a case, a missing person, a possibly deceased child. Ayla's beautiful soul is the inspiration that continues to guide us to still keep her candles lit, her story told and her smile never forgotten.

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      Very true Becca Boo.

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    2. She was, is and shall always be one of the unique special lights of creation. People who are not trapped in their own personal darkness see her instantly. Such a powerful life story written in such a short time with immense grace dignity and innocence. She shall never be forgotten.

      When I saw her dance I knew she was one of the most powerful warriors sent by GOD to teach a lesson to anyone who would dare to gaze upon her final dance. Some beings must be returned eventually to the darkness for all eternity. Ayla came to save someone and laid down her life to do it. Only a warrior acting on GOD's command would have that courage. Only the most ancient warriors know they must dance before they die. She is the most powerful female warrior I have encountered.
      I am humbled by her courage.

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    3. Only a warrior acting on GOD's command would have that courage.

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      So who is that warrior you speak of?

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  21. Go to HLN Is our Justice system Broken? They mention Ayla several times!

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  22. I wonder how many here have been through a custody dispute?
    I keep seeing the question 'why didn't trista or any of the Reynolds family go see ayla at the dipietros house in waterville?' I may have an answer for that. Or at least a theory.
    When my oldest daughter was 9 her father and his wife were buying a house. They thought it would solve the pesky child support obligation he never paid to file for custody. I was a single mom and vulnerable at the time. Through underhanded tactics the stepmother obtained some of my past hospital records (she worked at the hospital) which were introduced as evidence. The judge ruled in my daughters father's favor- married vs single. Homeowner vs renter. History of depression vs no documented illness. Skilled professional vs blue collar job. Once I lost primary custody, I no longer had ANY say about my daughter. I was not a welcome guest in their house any longer. Even though a court approved visitation schedule was agreed upon, my daughters step mother decided when visits would happen and where I would pick her up. On my permanent record is now a trespassing charge from when I tried to go pick her up when she was 13 on my weekend (the visit was agreed upon but once I got there the stepmother turned the tables). This went on until my daughter was 17. The police never helped me enforce the visitation because it was a civil matter, meaning I would have to take them back to court to file an order for contempt. I didn't have the money to fight anymore. I had to go along with the rules the stepmother set for visitation or I would miss out on any visits...instead of every other weekend I got my daughter maybe once every month or so at the stepmother's convenience/whim.
    What's my point, you may be asking yourself?

    My point is because Justin had physical custody he called the shots. Perhaps trista did say at some point in those 59 days 'hey I'm gonna come pick up Atlanta and take her to mcdonalds' Justin could have said any reason why she couldn't do that. And he wouldn't have to give her any access at all because he was the parent with physical custody. Speaking from my own experience, I always tried to play nice so I could see my daughter. I agreed to whatever 'rules ' set forth by the stepmother just so I could see my daughter. Perhaps trista felt the same way....

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    1. That is my point elf, you explained what you tried to do and what happened. This is all I am asking of them did they try and were refused visits. I don't know about grand parents if they are allowed any rights to see their grand daughter or not. I have never been through it so I don't know, and I don't see any reason they wouldn't want to say what they tried. Trying to see if there is away to break the trend of harm coming to children from broken homes, or ones where parents are not married to each other.

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    2. I'm sorry that happened to you elf. Unfortunately things like that happen I think more than people realize. The average person can't understand how cruel and vindictive one parent can be to the other, and that there's nothing illegal about it, unless it is contemp and the other parent has the means to keep up a very expensive custody battle. Another thing is, even when contemp has been proven, often times a judge will overlook, and give numerous chances, without realizing the longing effects - the power that the other parent is holding, the cost, the emotional upset for the parent and child.

      It's a hard job being a judge. They have to make obviously judgements on people, their lives, their kids lives. They are people too though. Sometimes their sole decision, with limited knowledge, isn't always best.

      I have seen some things explained, Dana. I remember Trista requesting a sleep over visit. She's said that sometimes she was refused phone contact with Ayla. It's said that there were reports by various people to DHHS. I really do think efforts were put forth. Probably not as much, in hind sight, simply because who would have expected Ayla to go missing? She did file for custody within 2 months. It's not like she waited years. Lets face the other aspect too, Justin never filed, that we know of, ever.

      I do appreciate your questions on this topic Dana, because for one thing, you haven't asked in a accusing or belittling manner, and also because it is a good question. If someone left their child with someone else for 2 months, without a second thought, that would be strange. I don't think that was the case though.

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    3. The other thing is how long would it take DHHS to act on anything Trista filed? Do they get answers within two weeks of filing a complaint or does it take 30 days, 60 days? I realize they probably can't act in 24 hours unless maybe you said the child had been severely beaten and you feared for their life. If it takes 30 days to get anyone to act then the system needs to be changed.IMO

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    4. Dana, unless Trista made a complaint with DHHS about abuse or there was already an open case involving Ayla, DHHS wouldn't even have acted to help her. They would have told her it was a civil matter, which is what they originally told Phoebe. Justin should have gone to court to get primary physical custody - he didn't. Trista should have gone to court when Ayla was born to get primary physical custody - she didn't. When neither parent does then the parent who has custody at the time holds the upper hand. Trista went to court to file the paperwork for PR&R but then there would have been court dates, most likely mandatory parenting classes to attend (at least there is in CT not sure in ME) and a judge would have decided custody at that point if they couldn't come to an agreement first thru a mediator. It can be a long, drawn out process depending on how much each parent wants to fight.
      The non custodial parent has little to no rights without a court order. Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles have no rights. You only get to see the child at the whim of the custodial parent. It's extremely hard and very costly to gain grandparents rights through the courts. Many have tried, few succeed.

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    5. I don't know the time frame they are supposed to follow when a complaint of abuse or neglect is reported. That's a good question. But then there's the question of the procedure, all together. Do they investigate all reports (some are probably not warranted at all, but how do they decide?)? What's the investigation like? Even if they did investigate Justin, it's all up to the person who investigates him, their opinion, their decision. How long does the investigation take? If nothing is found amiss, it's closed, I assume. If something is amiss, then what? Do they order certain things, just make suggestions? Is there follow up visits and an ongoing investigation period?

      I'd like to know the standard procedure. Then I'd like to know, if complaints were made regarding Justin, how were they handled, what was the procedure? Knowing that it's confidential, we might never know any specifics regarding Ayla, but I'd still like to know the standar procedures for now.

      I know, that supposedly, DHHS is supposed to work with families and not against them. For all we know, maybe they were working with Justin. Or maybe someone decided everything was hunky dory there, and closed the complaints.

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    6. see pages 4-5 https://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/repproc.pdf

      law http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/22/title22ch1071.pdf

      From Maine DHHS page: Q: What happens once a report is made?
      A: Every report is documented, however not every report is assigned to a caseworker for investigation. Some reports are not assigned, but are kept on file. Some reports are assigned to Alternative Response Programs for supportive services and some reports are assigned to a DHHS caseworker for investigation. Each report is written up by an Intake Caseworker and forwarded to an Intake Supervisor for review. Contact with the family should occur within 3 days of the report if the report is assigned for intervention.

      Whenever there are questions that the Intake Caseworker cannot answer, you may ask to speak with an Intake Supervisor.

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    7. Trista had Ayla from birth and she would have still had to file for PPC. She should have been exempt from that. The system does not make sense, the mother can decide to abort if she so chooses but has to file for PPC if she carries the baby to term?

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    8. Because Dana, the father has equal rights to the child, as he should.

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    9. If custody is not wrote in stone any parent has the right to the child. Believe me my children are hard workers and very smart but when it came to having kids and trust in the other parent my were real dumb.

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    10. I was lucky on my first born. I had out of wedlock with someone I had been in and out of a relationship for 6 years and just when I thought I was over him found out I was prego. No laws back then so I was the main parent period.

      When she was 3 the law was going to change to what it is now so I went to court and made him sign his rights away. Why? Because he had not paid a dime of child support and] would have to pay up past and continue from there and I would have to share parent rights with him. Not over my dead body. She was my child I was doing it on my own and no help from state or anybody. He still continued to pick her up and buy her things and nothing really changed except she was mine. My mother even paid for it to be done. This was 1981 and times were changing fast because no body was getting married anymore.

      Laws had to change but also it seems these same laws need adjustments made to them. Relationships change and there should be something at birth signed in case the parents split so the legal system is not tied up with all these bad decisions and yes I was one of those bad decisions but I was lucky his mother was on my side.

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    11. I meant to say his mother paid for him to sign his rights away.

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    12. Gwen I don't mean this as an attack but unless your daughter's father was abusive, I feel very sorry for her. She had every right to receive financial support from her father. You say "nothing changed" but it very well could've had you not "made him sign his rights away" before the new laws came into effect. They may not be perfect but the laws are there for a reason. Had you said it was because you feared for your daughter's safety that would be understandable but in your explanation as to "why" it was all about his not paying child support and you not wanting to share parental rights. What about your daughter? It sounds like it was all about you and her father. JMO

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    13. He was always a part of her life but never wanted to help pay for anything but what he thought she needed not the daily things. He would have wanted more control as he did try that at one point and that is when I decided the new law was going to hurt more then help. Fathers have walked away from their kids because of forced child support and I wanted him to have his time with her and not a set weekend. e ad 4 years to do it the right way and his mother and I felt she was starting with my maiden name was showing he did not care by not taking full responsiablity for her. My daughter was better then that so she took my husband's name which gave her a mother and father on her papers. At the time you did not have the same choices you have now. No Medicaid, no Wic. I paid cas for her at birth. I never got and outs. And she is glad her father is not on her birth certicate. They di spend a lot of time together and the name change had nothing to do with me, it was about my daughter having a legal name like all the rest of he kids at school. I made mistakes but tried to make sure she did not have to say that she did not have her fathers name because he did not care. She is proud of what I did and she is 36. She loves both her father and my husband so anything you say of me rubs right off. I was not into drugs or drinking and lose my daughter and put her into a dangerous situation because I thought there was hope for us. I thought about my daughter first and not me. She needed to feel that she was loved and by dam she was. Her father was not taking the steps to make her feel that she was his daughter except for visits and a name meant a lot back then. Today people care less about that. Just like in the fifties when girls had to give u kids because they were not married. Times have changed but mothers seem to be making bad choices because hey can not get passed their love for someone that cares less about them. And as for the blood, that has not been confirmed by MSP so that means nothing to me. It was drawn out by Jeff and anybody could do that and would you believe it without backing from some police force. Really yall seem to think these people are telling the whole truth. You Really do not know. People write things all the time that come out as lies. Ayla missing is the only thing important at this time. When is everybody going to get it. Ayla is missing and where is she? Find that ot and then you can point fingers at .

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    14. O.K. Gwen, I'll ask from you what I have asked from others. Give me a reasonable reason why Jeff and Trista would lie about the information they released. Remember now that when confronted about it, if it is false information it will be known immediately. Do you think this would not cross their minds during the months they planned the release?

      You have been free with your accusations of Jeff lying. Here is your opportunity to give a good logical reason.

      Do I believe everything I'm told? Nope. In this case, however, I look at what is at stake and how easily it would be shown a lie with possible consequences. If you weigh the pros and con, it comes up the info is true to the best of their ability.

      I am not attacking you here, Gwen. I want to see what you base your thoughts on. Perhaps you have a good basis to contribute.

      Am I a Reynolds supporter? Only to the point that Ayla's name is Ayla Reynolds, all the rest can fend for themselves.

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  23. Dana B. said, "That is my point elf, you explained what you tried to do and what happened. This is all I am asking of them did they try and were refused visits."

    If I remember correctly Trista wanted to keep Trista for an overnight visit after one doctor's appointment which she and Justin atended.

    Justin said no.

    Dana, We don't know how many other times Trista may have tried to keep Ayla for a visit after Ayla was given to Justin. I am thinking that Justin could not afford such visits

    Justin and his mother, who in IMO is prime mover in all the scenarios connected with gaining and keeping custody of Ayla, probably knew that once Trista had her back even for a night, she'd never let Justin have Ayla again without some legal custody procedures set up by the court.

    Trista also said she paid visits to the house on Violette avenue to see Ayla. I believe two visits were mentioned, but there may have been more initiated, but rebuffed by the DiPietros as Justin rebuffed Trista talking to Ayla on the phone after the 8th.

    We simply do not know how frustrating this whole thing musthave been for Trista as she was trying to get backsome equilibrium after rehab and try to take care of the baby who was not taken away.

    That is why The took matters into her hands with her filing of PR&R. Something that Justin was planning as well...but hadn't gone to court to start the action, yet. Wonder why..

    I believe Justin found out about Trista's filing on the 15th of Dec, IIRC, and that info came from someone in DHHS who probably reported on all matters regarding Trista and her family to the DiPietros.

    I also believe that Ayla may have already passed away before Trista's filing and the DiPietros might have been in a panic knowing that Trista's filing meant that the household would be under intense scrutiny with Trista's going to court.

    Someone in state authority would have at least paid visits to the Violette Ave. house to see how Ayla was faring.

    Does anybody else think Ayla already gone when Trista filed for PR&R? It does seem odd that Justin would refuse Trista telephone access to Ayla after the 8th just to be mean. But then his nature is not one of too much patience and accord with Trista, it seems. He may have refused Trista contact just being Justin.

    Derek says that he saw Ayla on the mornin of the 16th for a playdate with his son. A bunch of twaddle, imo. I wonder if LE examined that witness statement very thoroughly. Besides does Derek, for some reason besides good ol' boy palsy-walsy brotherhood, have a dog in the fight? I think it's likely.

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    1. Thank you for sharing that information. I now take it that Justin was probably not on the best of terms with anyone in the Reynolds family and would not allow them visits if they had asked. So Trista had to go the hard way through DHHS and the court system.

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  24. I came back to try to discuss with an open mind and respectfully. That doesn't seem to work for me either so will take my leave. It has been great conversing with everyone. Thanks Tori hope things go well for you.

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    1. You have always been a great voice for Ayla Dana. You've given a lot of your time and energy to bring awareness to her. Be proud of that Dana.
      If her family won't thank you, I damn sure will.

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    2. Yes Dana I understand. I want to know when they do searches. Jeff thinks he can answer in code and then say he has other things to add. Hmm when? I do not believe anything he says because it is second hand and then has too be corrected for the lies. I am not here for him and his thinking he is the spokes man. I just want to know what MSP is not saying is that they are still looks for Attila alive or died. Trista sure can not make up her mind on that because she changes that quote with whatever fits at that time. Trista said at first she thought she was died and I have never heard of a parent saying that at first or anytime their child is missing. Why give up hope on someone that you love so dearly? The flip flop needs to stop because we care and are just trying to make sense if why everyone is either running their head or keeping silent . I think the silent ones are looking smarter because at least we are not asking why because if constant lies. And oh so sorry I am on my phone and have a hard time breaking it down in paragraphs so please so not start.

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    3. Gwen, you want Ayla found. How do you suggest we go about doing that?
      Ayla may be long out to sea.
      Ayla may be buried in some remote wooded area.
      Ayla may be down an abandoned well.
      Ayla may be buried in a bordering state, or in Canada.
      Ayla may be buried on some pvt. property unbeknownst to the owner.
      Ayla may have been buried in Canada or near the Canadian border, or in a bordering state.
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      I don't believe she is alive. Ayla's blood in that house disputes that for me.
      But you want to believe she is alive.
      Gwen, if you believe she is alive, what kind of a person do you think she is probably with?
      What kind of people steal children?
      And for what purposes?
      Have you done the research on what happens to stolen children?
      Statistics say the largest percentage are stolen by evil people for evil purposes or profit. They are not usually taken by a desperate woman or couple who want to love and care for a child. And blood of the missing is usually not found at the scene of an abduction in this last scenario.

      Perhaps you believe that some member of either family is hiding Ayla. I tend to think LE covered this theory almost at once. For any future trial, they would have to prove that they "covered all bases" and investigated the possibility that either Justin or Trista or their relatives had Ayla.

      Where would you suggest that LE, volunteers, and we all over the US look for a living Ayla? How should we go about it? I don't mean to be snarky, but really I'd like to hear your ideas.

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    4. I think as a parent I would not be walking around doing nothing while you have scores of people passing out fliers and other things with Ayla's face on it asking to look for her. Seems Trista is to busy finding the next baby daddy to have a child with. I could not be having sex while my child is out there somewhere missing. Is that what you wanted me to say. I already have one child who's father is not part of his life and the chance it a third time. I have see on other sites of search groups that will devote their time to helping and I would be on the phone day and night with them to get help to find her before the snow sets in again. I would be screaming out on the news for help in finding her but instead she is scream for Justin to be arrested. Really don't you think the police would if they could so that is wasting preisous time. It is not about Ayla anymore, it is about Justin and the others in the house. When is Trista going to beg for help to find her. I am not sure what happen to Ayla and will not go by what all the blogs are saying. I can make up my own mind and it has to be back up by evidence that the MSP tells not anybody else. Go by what you believe but I will believe the facts as they are put out not second hand and lies that change. These people want you to believe what they saw but you did not see any of it so you really do not know if they are telling the truth. Look at all the parents that names were tarnished and then come to find out they did nothing. Go by the facts not by second hand talk and then we can talk. I am deleting all blogs and only sticking with the ones that do not smear blood all over the page. Ayla could be alive and this talk sickens me.

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    5. Here's some facts for you Gwen. From MSP's website:
      Missing Persons

      Ayla Reynolds
      Missing since: 2011

      Town: Waterville, Maine


      On December 17, 2011, Ayla Reynolds (DOB 4-4-2010) was reported missing from her Violette Avenue home by her father Justin DiPietro. Investigators have ruled out any possibility that Ayla left the house on her own or that she was abducted. Investigators discovered Ayla's blood in the basement of her home, and the three adults who were in the home at the time are withholding information. Police believe that Ayla is probably dead.
      http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew/index.php?topic=state_police_unsolved&id=605022&v=Article-missing

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    6. And Gwen, OPEN YOUR EYES! What are the paternal family doing to find Ayla? This Trista bashing is totally sickening! Let's talk about Phoebe, Elisha, JUSTIN, DERECK, Courtney and Heidi? Why doesn't Heidi the spokeperson speak no more?

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    7. THANK YOU ANON! WELL SAID

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    8. Seems Trista is to busy finding the next baby daddy to have a child with. I could not be having sex while my child is out there somewhere missing.

      Gwen..and do you believe Justin is not out having sex with anyone because Ayla is missing..pffft...Im sure he has and is over the past two years.
      And why doesnt anyone question why the Dipietros are not organizing searches?
      Oh thats right..because Trista is the one that speaks out for Justice for her daughter, and the Dipietros dont speak out, therefore they dont have to do anything to find Ayla.
      I find that so ironic.

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    9. Why doesn't Ms. GG explain her intense Hate for Trista?
      Does she have a bone in this fight?
      IMO

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    10. "I think as a parent I would not be walking around doing nothing while you have scores of people passing out fliers and other things with Ayla's face on it asking to look for her."

      Gwen, I agree with you. Justin should not be sitting on his ass doing nothing while complete strangers share his daughters face on posters and talk about her on blogs.

      Justin has done nothing for Ayla. He claims she was taken by strangers from HIS mother's house and he does nothing. He makes no effort to find her, speak to the kidnappers or even mention her.

      All efforts made by Justin have been efforts to excuse his own behavior. Gwen, though your attempt to tear apart Trista as feeble at best, your attitude totally fits Ayla's parent JUSTIN.

      He's done nothing, except perhaps kill Ayla, hide her and lie about it.

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  25. I don't think trista is 'flip flopping' on purpose. I know its hard for people on this blog, but put yourself in tristas position. She's a mother. Her first born child is missing. The father of her first baby not only holds a piece of her heart but he's also the last person to see their daughter alive, thus making him a prime suspect. She wants to believe with every fiber of her being that her baby is alive and safe somewhere because THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO AYLA. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE. AYLA HAS TO BE ALIVE BECAUSE EVERYONE LOVES AYLA. And then trista is shown the blood evidence.... tangible proof that something beyond horrible happened in that house in waterville, Maine. Aylas life smeared on a baby doll, staining the couch, splattered in the basement... enough blood to drown hope. Enough blood to kill every dream that trista ever had for ayla.

    I don't think trista flip flops. I think trista is in hell. I think trista is hoping despite everything ayla will be brought home to her alive and well. I think that while tristas brain knows there isn't going to be a fairy tale ending her heart yearns to believe there could be a miracle.

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    1. Exactly Elf. Perfectly said.

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    2. Yes Elf, and there could be!!!

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    3. Elf, Well said, There is wisdom in your empathy.

      http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/empathy.htm

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    4. Everyone should take a look at that ^ link. It describes very well what some people seem to be actively trying to do to Trista. It may also be what some are doing to Justin rather than trying to understand what happened and hold the person responsible accountable. It's easy to demonize when trying to understand something as awful as how a person (any person) could be responsible for killing a baby. The fact that someone would do that - possibly unintentionally, possibly in a fit of rage, possibly with pre-meditation- doesn't come close to defining the whole person. The conduct may be inexcusable but denying the responsible party had any good qualities is not realistic or right whether it should happen to be Justin or anyone else.

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    5. Maybe one of the difficult things we face as humans is dealing with shades of gray. When insisting on consequences while exhibiting empathy, the empathy makes it harder to send someone to jail for a long sentence. It's easier to polarize human qualities and judge the wrongdoer to be all bad to avoid the discomfort with holding a good or at least partially good person who did a bad thing accountable with serious consequences. Just my musing after reading at the link...

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    6. well said Elf. well said.

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  26. Thank you mountain mama.

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  27. "I could not be having sex while my child is out there somewhere missing."

    Gwen, do you mean to say that if you had multiple children, your whole life would be about finding the one who was missing and said by police to be dead, and damn the other kids, damn your own life? That is not realistic longterm, nor is it healthy. It has been almost two years since police say Ayla died and you think Trista is wrong to have sex.. forever if Ayla is not found? And this is your business to talk about on blogs? For real?

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  28. Tori, it's been a while, glad to see your still at it for Ayla. I don't comment unless I have something that needs saying. So here goes. caring anonymous posted a comment on U4A (23 Months without Ayla) on November 18, 2013 at 9:49 am. She/he mentions a psychic tip from a friend about seeing Ayla murdered by 3 or 4 people and being buried in a cave near or at Devils Chair. Some claim their info comes from the other side of the fence because they believe it to be so OR fear putting their info out there for whatever reason so they hide the tip in the form of a psychic revelation. This place in the tip is real and is very close to where Ayla last was and am sure was well travelled by those who were last with her. Do you think it is worth checking out? http://www.waterville-me.gov/content/1234551319quarry-road-recreation-area-case-study.pdf

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    1. It has been turned in Lin. Thank you.

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    2. Thats good anon thankyou! Just a simple search turned up article after article on the location mentioned and it really struck me as an odd tip. Not bad just odd.

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    3. Hi Lin. That is very interesting information. While I don't believe in psychics (a type of pseudoscience) it could very well be a legitimate tip that someone put out there. They could actually have heard such information from someone. I sincerely hope that someone rules out the possibility that Ayla is located in that area of Devil's Chair. When I googled the place, I came up with information that it is near the school that Justin was taking his driving classes at.

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    4. And I don't believe that Ayla was murdered by 4 people. Justin may have murdered her, or concealed her accident. Maybe the others helped him cover, but I doubt 4 people "murdered" Ayla. On top of that, isn't it a hiking trail ? I googled and it seems that this trail is not for everybody. Caves are hard to access.

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    5. Hi Rose City, I found it interesting indeed, plenty of info about the place on-line so yes I too hope it is ruled out.

      Bonnie, I was simply relaying what someone posted on U4A. Since only Ayla and the/those guilty of making her vanish actually know what happened, I was under the assumption that all theories were valid for discussion. Perhaps you know better. Being in Canada I have not travelled the trail so could not offer any details other than the many articles I have read. What I have read seems to indicate many people frequent the area so perhaps a local could chime in.

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    6. Didn't a spokesman for the MSP (McCauseland?) announce that they were not accepting any more psychic tips? The Devil's Chair tip might be brushed off as just another info from that source and not investigated because it comes from a lala land.

      I hate to thnk the MSP wasted any resources on these kind of tips. Has there been one case solved or a body found from a psychic tip? Supposedly not one case has been documented as having been solved through psychic intervention.

      If anyone knows of an exception, set me straight.

      It's not that I don't believe that some rare people have extrordinary abilities outside the senses, I have seen some esp demonstrated privatly and quietly beyond my initial skepticism.

      I don't begin to know what it is. It may be that some rare people make a kind of a brief step onto a higher evolutionary plane. But I have no belief in the psychics inserting themselves into cases, especially not with the "evidence" they supposedly get from dreams or seances or trances!

      The person whom I knew with this" talent considered it a curse.

      Sorry to go so far OT.

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  29. Science
    http://youtu.be/XYZV9crCZM8?t=26m20s

    Darkness at the break of noon
    Shadows even the silver spoon
    The handmade blade, the child's balloon
    Eclipses both the sun and moon
    To understand you know too soon
    There is no sense in trying.

    Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
    Suicide remarks are torn
    From the fools gold mouthpiece
    The hollow horn plays wasted words
    Proved to warn
    That he not busy being born
    Is busy dying.

    Temptation's page flies out the door
    You follow, find yourself at war
    Watch waterfalls of pity roar
    You feel to moan but unlike before
    You discover
    That you'd just be
    One more person crying.

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  30. Obscure has a post up.

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    1. Saw it. It's trash. Same old same old. She's a broken record.

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    2. S/he's been rather moribund of late.S/he's got the wind up, evidently. What hath pierced the long silence? Some new revelations, perchance? Ayla's blood traced throughout the DiPietro manse?
      Of course not. "Trista done it!" Same old crock of garbage. Methinks the lady (?) is repeating herself.



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    3. She's certainly portrayed Trista as a criminal genius, nimble as a cat burglar and prescient enough to know that on that particular evening, Phoebe would have a sleepover elsewhere, Elisha would take Gabby to bed with her, and Justin, Courtney and her baby would be cuddling down in the basement. She's also persuasive enough to get her entire family, her then boyfriend's dad and whoever is hiding Ayla to commit felonies just because she wants it that way.

      Or

      LE and prosecutors are stalled because those present are stonewalling. If all 3 are prosecuted, the defense lawyers will simply move to have the trials severed and start pointing fingers at the other defendants, raising reasonable doubt enough to acquit or deadlock.

      I have to go with the second theory.

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    4. We all may be surprised at the outcome.

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    5. Now she/he sounds like Grace, accusing Jeff of having blood on his hands, literally. Smdh

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    6. It's not even worth getting upset about. Claiming that Jeff literally has blood on his hands? Please. I don't even think that people who are still on the fence believe that. It's obviously just to cause an uproar.

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  31. Following the other blog-you can almost sit back and distinguish who each one is. Believe me when I say,IMO Diepetro and crew walk among us everyday. You can almost FEEL who each one is. Just a few commentors, IMO, but it is not so hard to realize who each one is. Girls, Give it up! Justin, you really should think with your brain-think of this precious little one, stop hiding behind all these women! Man UP!

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    1. I think I hate their smugness the most. As in "We know so much more than everybody else, not that we have more information than anybody else, but because we are such superior beings."

      Certain posters who felt bereft here because their ideas were not universally applauded,seem to have found a home over there, so it's all good.

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    2. I agree. United For Ayla is definitely a smug, know-it-all kind of blog. It IS obvious which of the people posting there are Justin and crew. It makes me LOL!

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    3. Sorry, I wasn't talking about U4A as you well know. Smug...For Ayla, to be exact!

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  32. After following Ayla blogs for quite awhile, I've come to the conclusion that smug, know-it-all, dispute everything behavior while maybe a smokescreen isn't worth worrying about. In time, it won't matter.

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    1. What do you call smug, question-nothing behavior? People who take everything Trista states as truth who then spend their time attacking others who don't see things as they do?

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    2. LOL, Anon 4:50 am, that's posturing if I ever saw posturing. I don't think anyone takes everything Trista states as truth. Most of us are mature enough to realize that people are not perfect and can only share their perceptions and understandings. Trista has told truths that are pretty much undeniable at this point though such as LE finding a lot of Ayla's blood in Justin's house.

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    3. It does seem more than a bit odd that the pro-DiPietro coterie never ask questions of the people whom LE insists are "withholding information" on their own missing child. Yet, they are determined to portray Trista as a criminal mastermind. Not only that, but they obviously think Trista trained as a cat burglar in her spare time. No sound, no trace as Trista on little cat feet silently stole her daughter away.

      (The coterie dismisses Ayla's blood as a part of LE's active imagination or Trista's inveterate lying.)

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    4. It seems very odd that the pro-Trista menagerie never ask questions of Trista, the woman and mother of Ayla who LE has not cleared as a suspect. Yet, they seem determined to portray Justin as the sole mastermind of hiding Ayla's body because he must have trained to do it in his spare time.

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    5. I do not find it odd,as long as there was Ayla's blood on the walls, floors and furniture in the Dipietro house.

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    6. Justin DiPietro could not be a mastermind of anything. Phoebe, now, well, she's a different story. Maybe not a mastermind, but be assured she is crafty enough to be in back of whatever story they all concocted.

      She is behind the taking of Ayla in the first place. Justin didn't seem to be too eager to be a parent and support a child he didn't want..Phoebe didn't want to have to pay his child support. Phoebe is behind Justin getting Ayla's social security number by devious means so Justin ( or maybe Phoebe) could claim Ayla on his/her "income" tax. Poor Ayla was to be Phoebe's eventual little cash cow.

      Phoebe is undoubtedly behind not letting Trista spend any time with her daughter after Dec. 8th. She was undoubtedly behind preventing Trista from talking to Ayla after Dec. 8th.

      Phoebe has an alibi for the 16th. How convenient! Was that the night Phoebe decided would be the best night for Ayla to disappear when the baby had actually been "abducted" days earlier?

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  33. We are here for Ayla? You Know, that Beautiful little blond haired, blue eyed baby girl who came up amongst the missing at the Diepetro House on Violette Avenue in Waterville, Maine? We are not here to deflect from the truth!

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  34. Ayla Bell Reynolds age 20 months Life taken from her by someone inside the violette avenue home in Waterville. Ayla Bell Reynolds. May she rest now in Peace, Warmth and Safety. She did not have this at her sperm donors home!

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  35. If she was dark haired, dark eyed she would be as beautiful, she would be as beautiful, all babies are precious

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    1. ditto if she wasn't "beautiful," just average looking

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  36. My god, you people are like scavengers! Take one word and pick the hell out of it! Ayla Bell Reynolds, You know, that precious, blond haired, blue eyed baby girl who came up amongst the missing at the Diepetro House on Violette Avenue in Waterville, Maine? We are here to search for the Truth, not disect everyone's sentence!

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  37. But she's not dark haired, dark eyes. The decription of Ayla Bell Reynolds is beautiful, blue eyed, blond hair. If Ayla was dark haired I would have given that description!

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    1. I think the point people are making is her looks have nothing to do with this. She is a precious human being independent of her appearance.

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    2. Perhaps some are thinking that blue-eyed, blonde babies are top of the list on many who want to adopt, legally or illegally, a child.Some child pornographic sites also put a premium on blonde, blue-eyed children.

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    3. Anon 9.15, that is exactly what I meant.

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  38. What is obscures blog?

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  39. juststopthelies.BlogSpot.ca

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  40. Something I haven't been able to figure out. Why if Ayla died in Justin's care, why couldn't she have ingested a drug, fallen and caused external bleeding. Why is most of the talk he or someone had to have beaten her to death in a fit of rage? The only thing I can come up with is human nature. People would rather see the darkest of sides.

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    1. Anon @ 7:05 I don't think anyone has suggested the possibility of the combination of both ingesting drugs and falling. I hadn't thought of it before but it does make sense. It might also explain why 911 wasn't called even if it was accidental.

      I would much rather think that it was an accident and not an act of rage. I think that's how most everyone feels about it but unfortunately many toddlers do die each year due to an act of rage. It's only natural to consider the possibility or likelihood IMO.

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  41. Yes, but wouldn't the police have detected the presence in Ayla's blood, saliva and vomit ?

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    1. Bonnie we don't know if the samples were tested for drugs. If they were tested and if drugs were detected, chances are it's one more thing MSP isn't telling. If they were tested and if no drugs were detected they probably wouldn't tell us that either.

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    2. From what I was told by Jeff and think it is safe to share now that the case for Ayla has been released is that the blood samples were only big enough to test it as far as finding out if it was Ayla's blood but not enough actual blood left to test for the presence of drugs. To my understanding we don't know if drugs were a factor or not

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    3. That doesn't make sense. I thought there was so much blood it looked like a murder scene.

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    4. Blood found with luminol. There wasn't pools of blood to recover, it had been cleaned up except for spots of it that had dried. Like on the couch and the bed. I don't think they were able to collect a lot of it

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    5. In the case for Ayla I thought Trista didn't view the luminol slide she saw enough blood without that and couldn't watch them?Or am I wrong?

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    6. I think she saw the first two slides of luminol enhanced blood before she asked them to stop?

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    7. Granted any blood is troubling but from what Trista saw I would say the it looked like a murder scene was a fabrication to get people to sign her petition. This is why a lot of people have no faith in anything she says.

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    8. Without seeing "what Trista saw" there's no way of knowing if it "looked like a murder scene" or not. To jump to the conclusion that it "was a fabrication to get people to sign her petition" seems biased and closed minded IMO.

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    9. If you read the case for Ayla she says what blood she saw. Thinking someone committed murder with out proof seems biased and close minded IMO.

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    10. In the Case for Ayla Trista describes the photos of actual blood. She didn't detail what was in the luminol enhanced blood photos. We don't know what she saw in those that may have led her to think it looked like a murder scene.

      How do you know there is no proof? Or are you jumping to conclusions? Do you know for a fact there is no proof?

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    12. As I was saying in my opinion I think she only viewed 2 luminol slides. I have no proof of guilt but would ask do you? We only have opinions to go on and very little fact.

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    13. Guess I put a damper on the conversation.

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    14. I have no proof of guilt nor have I said a murder was committed. I think it's possible though. All this broad brushing of commenters gets old and causes a lot of misunderstandings and eventually leads to silencing voices for Ayla. That sucks for Ayla.

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    15. Hey Dana! Wishing you and your family a Happy Thanksgiving!

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    16. It was not only what Trista saw but the consensus of Trista, Alex and Melissa. And the description of what was in the luminol slides is 1. the living room sofa area and 2. an overview of the basement. It was the basement that the three of them felt looked like a murder scene.

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    17. Hey mckee same to you and hang on to your knapp sack. Hope you have guests coming.

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    18. anon 7:05 I agree there are so many possibilities.

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    19. "It was the basement that the three of them felt looked like a murder scene"

      I bet it did, given it was a slide of luminol glow.

      Luminol glow in a basement probably would look like a crime scene.
      Given luminol reacts with blood, (old and new) iron, copper, and chemicals containing those, bleach, and horseradish.
      Luminol glow, or photo's of, can not tell you what the chemicals were, or who's blood, or how old the blood was, that caused the glow.

      Was it made known to Trista that every single area that produced a glow was from ayla's blood?


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  42. Ayla's Blood Found (The blood evidence described here was visible to the naked eye and not luminol enhanced).

    Several drops of Ayla's blood were found on the left shoulder strap of Ayla's car seat in Justin's vehicle. Ayla's dried vomit was found on the backseat.
    Droplets of Ayla's blood were found on the pompoms of her pink princess slippers.

    A “silver dollar sized stain” of Ayla’s blood was found on the sofa in the DiPietro family’s living room (upstairs).
    Ayla's blood was found smeared on her baby doll's face and arms in the bedroom she shared with Elisha DiPietro’s daughter (upstairs). It appeared that Ayla tried to wipe blood from her mouth with her doll.
    Drops of Ayla's blood were found on a fan cord in Justin's basement bedroom.
    Ayla's blood splatter was found on a plastic blue tote in the basement and a sheet that was found inside had Ayla's blood stains on it. MSP said that it had been used to cleanup Ayla’s blood.

    Several drops of Ayla's blood were found on the tongue and inside Justin's sneakers in the basement beside his bed.
    A "fist size stain” of Ayla's blood was found on Justin's mattress and sheets. This sample contained saliva, possibly vomit, and “a toy hair like" pink fiber which, at the time, MSP had not identified.

    Several splatters of Ayla’s blood were found on sections of the cement floor and wall beside Justin’s bed. These blood splatters were consistent with Ayla's standing height, and were up to a dime in size. MSP’s blood analysts determined that the blood splatters were created by intense projectile vomiting and/or blunt force trauma.
    Several splatters of Ayla’s blood were found on a wood pallet leaning against a wall in the basement.


    Justin DiPietro: “It’s No Big Deal”
    Three Maine State Police Detectives and a grief counselor from the Attorney General’s office oversaw this slideshow. They provided comparison photos (normal and enlarged sizes of Ayla’s blood) displayed from a laptop to an external display screen.

    After the photos of blood visible to the naked eye were displayed, MSP began to show the luminol-enhanced photos, depicting additional blood of Ayla's upstairs and downstairs in the DiPietro’s house. Trista was unable to view any more of the horrific display after only two luminol-enhanced photos, and the slideshow was stopped.

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  43. News update in another missing child case:

    http://www.kptv.com/story/24069159/protesters-surround-terri-hormans-home-demanding-answers

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    1. Justin: Note the above story. This is how truly innocent parents act when their child goes missing. God bless Desiree'. One wonders how she keeps body and soul together.

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    2. Sooooo Justin should stand in front of Tristas home with signs accusing her of taking Ayla?

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    3. Nooooo he doesn't have the balls to do that. Not without his mama holding his hand.

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  44. From the KPDX article Rose City cited:

    "Not having the answers, it's turmoil," said Young. "I can't solve the case. I can't get law enforcement to solve the case. I can't get law enforcement to arrest her, but I can stand out in front of her house and remind her of the reason we're here, and we're going to be here every day."


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  45. It is said to be fact Trista slept with Justin and had his child. It is said to be fact Trista slept with Ray Fortier jr and had his child . It is said to be fact Trista slept with Alex and had his child. It is said Justin is a murderer, Ray is an arsonist, Alex was a drug dealer. We are suppose to think Trista is squeaky clean all American that would not tell an untruth. I don't think I will buy it.without LE verification.

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    1. Oh and in return I won't buy everything Justin says either.

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    2. Yeah well just remember it works both ways. Justin also slept with Trista. He dissed her and her family and he still slept with her even after Ayla was born, even while he had another girlfriend, even after he had another baby with another woman he didn't have a longterm relationship with...

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    3. "We are suppose to think Trista is squeaky clean all American.."

      Says who? Trista herself has admitted to some of her faults, she doesn't claim to be squeaky clean. I don't understand the connection between how many people a person sleeps with and whether or not they would lie. Are there statistics that say if you have a child with three different people, you're automatically a liar?

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    4. None of this really matters I wish LE would break this case before the 2 year mark.

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  46. The results of a horrible accident or an unintentional killing could also look like a murder scene. Their not calling police is a strong indicator that whatever happened, one or more of them were responsible in some fashion.

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    1. I agree if the information is true. The only thing confirmed by LE is more than a small cut would produce. That doesn't sound like a murder scene or a horrible accident IMO.

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    2. Maybe not but when McCausland used the word “magnitude” in regards to the investigation and Ayla’s blood being found, it’s fair to say it’s a definite possibility. Not only that but he thought it was important for the public to understand it. JMO.
      "On the same day police announced their belief that a kidnapping was implausible, they also announced that blood had been discovered during the investigation of 29 Violette Ave. Later, McCausland said some of the samples were Ayla’s blood, and the lab is analyzing other samples. He added the amount of blood attributed to Ayla was more than a small cut would produce.
      DiPietro said he was shown the blood evidence, but he’s not sure of the amount.
      Heidi Tudela said she doesn’t believe the blood is related to Ayla’s disappearance, and said the announcement by police was premature.
      “Unless you have evidence to prove that, I don’t feel it’s OK to use that to turn public perception, because you need the public to be out there looking for missing people. It’s very important.”
      McCausland said Monday the decision by investigators to release the information was responsible.
      “We felt it was important that the public understand some specifics of the investigation. We felt it was important that the public understand the magnitude of this investigation and that some of the blood was Ayla’s,” he said."
      http://www.kjonline.com/news/Friends-father-ask-others-to-believe-Ayla-remains-alive.html?pagenum=full


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    3. I get that the fact remains he did not say it looked like a murder scene. Everything is opinion you read into it what you think that is fine I do not have a problem with it. I choose to not put words in LE's mouth he did not say and that should be fine also. I still pray he cracks this case and makes an arrest before the 2 year mark, or finds Ayla and brings her home. Heidi's opinion is no more right than yours or mine. DiPietro is another story he should know the amount told him by LE and what he see first hand. He is not saying anything publicly. That I don't understand.

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    4. There are collateral pieces of information that are relevant to forming an opinion. One is the arrival of homicide investigators and Stokes on the scene. It may be called "routine" but routine when? When they think there's a homicide or there's reason to believe there may have been a homicide... they wouldn't call in homicide investigators for an obvious household accident or for a bona fide kidnapping where no indication of homicide was present.

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    5. This is just what I mean when I say putting words in someones mouth. How do you know who shows up when a child is reported missing? I would think they would cover all bases not just send out one part of a team. They would look inexperienced if they had to keep calling in different teams until they got the right one. Maybe I am wrong and you work very closely with LE in Maine. How many of these type cases have you been in on and I am asking respectfully so as not to be misunderstood.

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    6. Dana you don't have to work closely with LE to read about many other documented missing children's cases and understand the process. In the beginning every possibility is looked at. As possibilities are ruled out the investigation leads in one direction or another. Stokes was there 6 days after Ayla was reported missing. Massachusetts evidence technicians were called in 2 weeks after Ayla was reported missing. There are different stages of an investigation and different teams are called in at those stages. If you haven't researched other cases, you're not in a position to comprehend the procedures in a missing child case, but you shouldn't judge someone for putting words in LE's mouth just because they've done their homework and have a better understanding than you do.

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    7. True if your not from Maine you have no idea how they work cases and the amount of mistakes that they make. If you looked at the case just this year with the stabbing case of Naomi Swift in Lewiston the blood evidence that was thrown away and not kept to be tested. Also witness testimonies lost. Maine is not the same as the big cities where there is a murder every day and sometimes more. They do the best they can with what they have but local police officers are sometimes just your everyday guy with just basic schooling for officer training. You judge and form conclusions on what you determine a statement means beyond what LE will say publicly and that is fine. I lived in a small town in Maine and saw first hand what some law enforcement was my brother was on a force and he had no training and it was in the Kennebec County area and they meaning the police force he worked on had more cases thrown out of court because of mishandled evidence than they prosecuted successfully. They did however finally receive some training. That town is now policed by another county and not the town police dept it was voted out. I am not saying Maine State Police is the same as they do have training, but local towns don't always have the training the State does.

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    8. Dana what you say about small town LE may be true but Maine State Police was there from day one. 12/17/11

      "“A detailed search of the residence for forensic evidence is being conducted by members of the Waterville Police Department’s Detective Division and the Maine State Police’s Evidence Recovery Team."
      http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Waterville-toddler-missing.html

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    9. How long did it take to tape of the crime scene? Days. Here are just a few of the articles on Naomi Swift who was stabbed over twenty times. The man was only convicted of assault and that is under appeal last I heard. Read through a few of them when you have time.

      http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2013/08/20/cruthirds-convicted-felony-assault-burglary-connec/1410983

      http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2013/08/13/cruthirds-attempted-murder-trial-begins-auburn/1407397

      http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2013/08/14/cruthirds-attorney-questions-how-police-handled-bl/1407907

      http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2013/08/16/defense-team-blasts-lewiston-detectives-techniques/1408755

      http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2013/08/16/court-sanctions-prosecution-missing-statments-atte/1409120

      I am not saying people that read more into what LE says are wrong just that you can't base your case on what you think LE may be insinuating by the words he does say. He said more than a small cut not a murder scene. I am sure he had people at the Waterville home he didn't need but he had everyone that he did.

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    10. It is like someone saying don't eat that you will die. Then the person takes into consideration the way it was said and you ask them what they were told.They say we were told not to eat of it or even touch it or we would die. Things grow when you try to read more into them than what was said.JMO

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    11. The FBI was there on day 2. The FBI has expertise and training far more extensive than local LE typically would, particularly LE from a smaller town.

      Here is what the state says about the AG's response to homicides:

      "The Assistant Attorneys General of the Homicide Unit respond to all homicides and advise the law enforcement agencies that conduct investigations. The Maine State Police, Portland Police Department and Bangor Police Department investigate homicides. The prosecutors work closely with those departments and with the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner throughout the investigation and through trial."

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    12. I think it really helped to have Mass. Techs there too. They see and are involved with so much more of this sort of investigations.

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  47. I do believe Waterville requires a nine week training course. Some people who apply and have been hired have been to Thomas college and hold degrees in criminal justice. I am sure they hire qualified people don't take me wrong but even the best schooled can make mistakes just like anyone of us.Even so every time they are called out they put their life on the line for us and that is dedication to what they believe in.

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    1. And all the training in the world doesn't always trump solid instincts, people sense, etc., either. Formal education is valuable but it isn't the only way to be a good cop.

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    2. I will agree with you there. and I know you want Ayla found and this case closed just as much as I do. The people involved here need healing and it can't start until she is home.

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  48. 1.) Ayla did not leave the DiPietro house on her own.
    2.) Ayla was not abducted..
    3.) The people in the DiPietro house are withholding information..

    Conclusions of all the investigative bodies, including the FBI special team on child kidnapping.

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    4. ) Blood spots, and blood in splatter patterns, proved to be Ayla's.

    No evidence exists (that we've heard) shows that anybody from the house called 911 for help with an injured child or that Ayla was taken to a hospital.for emergency treatment.

    What can one deduce from these bare facts? What happened to Ayla?

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  49. Pretend that you have just read about this missing child. You don't know anything about either of her parents or relatives. You read the bare bones facts above.You have in the past followed the investigations of other missing children cases What is the first thing that comes into your mind, aside from the fact that people do not just disappear as in a puff of smoke?

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  50. Mc Causland said that nobody in Maine would put themselves in Trista's shoes. It seems to me that even if he has not publicly confirmed what Trista said (although he said that Ayla's blood was found, more than a small cut in the foot would produce/ that it was highly unlikely that Ayla would be found alive/ that Ayla was not kidnapped) he has pretty much backed her.

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  51. 4. ) Blood spots, and blood in splatter patterns, proved to be Ayla's.

    Proved by who and when?

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  52. MM did a good post on accidental drug ingestion by toddlers. I think that it is possibility and no one was around at the time of injury after ingesting. Fear on the adults part would play a big part if she was beyond help when she was discovered.

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    1. Would drug ingestion explain both internal and external injury tho? And unless it was a very, very long time til they found her, they wouldn't necessarily know if she was beyond resuscitation. Sometimes kids can be resuscitated quite a long time after a "fatal" injury and rescuers/doctors will go all out to restart their hearts.

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    2. I am only saying it is a possibility if she is no longer with us. She possibly could have ingested drugs that would cause internal bleeding and she possibly could have fallen down the stairs causing an external injury. If no one was around to see her until she had already passed. It is only a scenario and would go with the statement Jeff made that Justin may only be guilty of being a bad parent. I just can't see him beating his child to death.

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    3. Ugh. Dana I don't want to think that Justin beat her to death either. It is possible though. I also think it's possible she ingested drugs and fell down the stairs causing the internal and external injuries. IDK how likely either scenario is but I'm not ruling either of them out.

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    4. Lashing out in anger doesn't necessarily mean repeatedly beating someone, which is what comes to mind for me when I think of beating someone to death. A single shove, slap, whack with an object, squeeze, or throw could have fatal results.

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    5. *beating someone repeatedly

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    6. So you think the throwing Ayla that Trista referred to in the text a friend told her is true?

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    7. mm I still cling to the alive some place until LE says definitely not.

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    8. Do that Dana. I hope you're proven right and I'm proven wrong :)

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  53. Mixed feelings about that, Dana. It could very well be true but it could also be investigators having Trista test out a theory. I just don't know.

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  54. Ingesting drugs does not explain the blood spatter or in the car, his shoes, his bed, his couch, her babydoll, or bloody sheets in a tote.

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  55. It could explain some, but definately not all!

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