Friday, October 4, 2013

Really?


Really?


A source tells me that according to Derek Tudela he thinks the reports that police call the DiPietro house one step away from a hoarder's house, dirty, and littered with beer bottles "a joke". He claims the house was not dirty until MSP got there and trashed the place. Apparently Derek says it looked like a tornado hit the house and that MSP left fingerprint dust from floor to ceiling. He also claims MSP broke furniture and that furniture was missing and that there were no beer bottles there before MSP got there. He also goes on to say that they made no attempt to clean the house which was appalling to him since the family willingly vacated the house and handed over their keys asking officers to do whatever it takes to find their little girl. 

I don't doubt that there was some mess left behind by the Maine State Police after processing the DiPietro House. I would think that MSP's main concern would be finding Ayla who had only been missing for a few days and not filming an episode of Home Makeover Missing Child's Edition. If Ayla was everyone's main concern what little mess left by MSP would be minor compared to all the overtime hours put in by these people looking for Ayla. Their own children missing their presence Christmas Morning and all the family dinners prior and after because they were working a case, the risk to themselves by diving into frigid waters-that is minor compared to leaving a cluttered, dirty house dirtier. Since these are Derek's words and not the words of the DiPietro's it isn't fair to assume that they also share these feelings.

As far as the beer bottles, where did they come from? Were MSP drinking and partying while processing the crime scene and left their empties behind? The family lawyer claims there was no drinking in that house so why all the beer bottles? Why leave all the beer bottles for police to see and then try to say afterwards that there was no one drinking in the house that night? Why did Justin leave for a bottle of wine that night if the intention was not for it to be drank that night? We know Justin drinks because he was pulled over with alcohol in his vehicle and violated his conditions of release. He wouldn't have had a no alcohol condition of release if the initial charge wasnt alcohol or drug related or he was on drugs and alcohol while committing the offense. 

The whole denial of alcohol being involved in Ayla's disappearance and then the refuting all the evidence that there was empty alcohol bottles as well as a "wine run" that night further fuels my belief that Ayla was the victim of an accident, most likely by negligence due to an alcohol induced fog, that was covered up poorly due to a time constraint. 

I posted pictures in the post: http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2012/03/picturesyou-knew-it-was-coming-right.html showing an inside glimpse of the DiPietro home prior to Ayla going missing. You be the judge on the condition of the house and what you think the reason for the alcohol cover up is. 

38 comments:

  1. Tori,
    This is a very good post. I agree that MSP did not place the beer bottles there and I don't see why Trista, her boyfriend and his mother would have invented them. Although there were many inconsistencies, the description of the basement is too precise to be pure invention. As I said before, Justin was moving so when there is a move there is always some mess. But the presence and especially the amount of empty beer bottles is concerning, especially with toddlers around. Apart from that, I don't find the main floor particularly messy. This is a house with toddlers, and it looks like many places I have seen who have toddlers. Always a little mess here and there, nobody is perfect right ?

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  2. I want to correct the post, I meant -Although there have been inconsistencies in the past from Trista, this description is way too precise to be pure invention (on top of that I think that if it was invented police would have said something and denied the claim, like it did at the beginning when media said that Ayla was dead).

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  3. State your source, or this is more bs.

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    1. You can choose to believe what you want but I would never reveal a source ever. The parties involved know whether or not they said it and there are witnesses that know whether or not they said it. I have maintained a very fair blog and would not have posted it if I didn't know that it was true

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    2. If it's not true, let Derek tell us it's not what he said.

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    3. Anon 1:24, how would you know ???

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  4. I agree with your thoughts on the alcohol. And I'm sure MSP took many photos of that home while processing the crime scene so it really doesn't matter what Derek or Trista or anyone says. The proof is there and when it's needed in court, it will be produced.

    You would think the DiPietros and their latest Tudela spokesperson would be more worried about cleaning up biohazard material (blood) than about fingerprint dust.

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    1. I believe that LE would have taken every thing they found with Ayla's blood on it into custody, after they photographed it, and swabbed it. The only thing left for the DiPietro's to clean up would have been the fingerprint dust and the bloodstains on the walls and floor, IMO

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    2. Cg, you make a great point. People can say whatever they want, but the police have all the photographic evidence of how the home looked. Personally, I highly doubt the investigators were drinking beer on the job and left their empty bottles all over the place.

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  5. Anon 9:46 not possible and we know it didn't happen. Heidi said she saw four spots of blood on or by the stairs. And with blood on the floor and walls, there's no way cops are going to remove all of the blood, though there was a report they removed a hunk of concrete that may have been part of a wall or floor.

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    1. What is not possible? That they took items (like the fan, the tv, the tote bag) and kept them as evidence? I'm sorry to dispute you, but they take everything and bag it up before they test it. They do not return "evidence" until the case is closed. If they left blood, it was on something they couldn't take, like the floor or wall. LE stated they had 100's of pieces of evidence. What do you think that evidence was? Blood spattered items found in the home would be my guess.

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  6. Anon, I think we actually are in agreement they took most things with blood on them but didn't take what it wasn't feasible to take. I put too much emphasis on your language "every thing" in my earlier response.

    One thing I do wonder about is the living room sofa. That seemed to still be in place when the DiPietro's returned to their house.

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  7. This is so strange, did they really leave the sofa with Ayla's blood on it ? This is a piece of evidence. But maybe Trista didn't realize that the sofa was not in the house anymore when she asked Phoebe "How can you sit on a sofa which has my daughter's blood ?" On another subject, they removed the whole shed, and nobody mentioned anything about it. Why would they have removed the shed if they didn't find anything on it ? Is it that there were photos in the shed but Trista wanted to see no more photos with her daughter's blood ? Or is it that they found absolutely nothing there ?

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    1. I don't believe I have ever heard that they removed the whole shed. Where did you see that?

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    2. http://united4ayla.com/the-shed-and-the-dogs-what-is-the-true-story/
      Now on every picture of the house, you can see that there is no more shed

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  8. Derek may have said these things. To me they are not that big of a deal.
    Everyone has their own personal idea of what is clean and or dirty.

    Did MSP leave the DiPietro house a mess? Of course they did. Cleaning up is not their job or worry. If MSP did a through job of looking for and collecting evidence, and I'm sure they did, I can believe the house was a total disaster. They move everything, look inside everything, dump things out of drawers, closets and cabinets.
    That's just the way it is.

    Beer bottles, maybe they were there, maybe they were not. I don't know. Trista can say what she wants (remember). I don't believe that IF there was beer bottles, that MSP put them there.

    Wine run. Your girlfriend is coming over for the night, I can see getting a bottle of wine. Not a big deal to me.
    As far as Phoebe saying that there is no drinking in the house, that may well be what she believes, or her rule. That doesn't mean that Justin followed her rule.

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  9. I don't know. My husband enjoys a couple of bottles of beer at the end of his work day. He redeems them about twice a year, so we've been known to have a few hundred empties in our basement from time to time.

    I seriously doubt MSP drank while on the clock and left the bottles behind.

    I haven't read that 29 Violette was considered a "party house." Or any incidents involving drugs and/or alcohol with the occupants in the home. I tend to believe there was no party the night of the 16th. Surely the neighbors would know if there had been a party. And it would be a silly thing to lie about, IMO. There is nothing illegal about throwing a party on a Friday night, even with small children present.

    I'm curious why Justin was ordered not to possess or consume alcohol as a condition of his bail. I can only surmise he was intoxicated when arrested on the assault charge. But again, I saw no mention of public intoxication on his arrest record.

    As for the condition of the house...I don't know. If the house was disgusting, I think the authorities would have had an issue with Gabby returning to the home after it was tossed for evidence. I also think the authorities would have had an issue of Gabby returning to the home if copious amounts of Ayla's blood had been found in the home.

    At least I would hope so.

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    1. mckeekitty, I don't think the authorities can do anything about another child returning to a house where a crime was committed, unless they are ready to make charges. Since they obviously aren't ready to do that, Gabby is left to the care of the Dipietro family. She is most likely safer than before, because two children going missing would be difficult to explain. Although I am sure the whole family bonded with Gabby and Ayla was just "in the way" and an unwanted interruption of their lives. But they don't have to worry about Ayla anymore, do they? They had their "vigil" (funeral) and as far as the Dipietros are concerned, it's done. Back to their lives of partying, drinking, drugging and lying.

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    2. Its not against the law to live in a dirty house, Im sure they wouldn't take Gabby out for that reason. Most people wouldn't raise children in that atmosphere, but there are always those that do, including the Dips

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  10. As I understood it Trista was shown photo's of blood evidence. Also as I understand it, pictures specifically of items that contained blood. ---slippers -couch- car seat- blue tote-sheet inside tote--pallet--blood on wall and floor next to bed- and doll.
    Why would they show her pictures of dirty cloths and beer bottles??
    I thought she said that she was shown 8 to 10 pictures of visable blood, and 2 pictures of luminol glow.

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    1. Jeff said the slideshow consisted of 30-40 photos. She must have seen all of those before she got to the luminol. Why would they (Jeff and Trista) continually refer to 30-40 photos if she only saw 8-10 actual photos and 2 luminol photos?

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    2. There were 10 areas where Trista described blood. This means she saw an average of 4 photos per area. Why would you need to show a mother multiple photos of the same blood evidence? Even 2 per site seems excessive to me.

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    3. It would not be unusual for the LE to show Trista photos which show the crime scene along with the evidence collected.

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    4. They were showing her actual and enlarged sizes of the blood so multiple photos per item.

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    5. Okay I stand corrected.
      I could have sworn that Trista said in an interview that she was shown 8 to 10 photo's of visable blood and 2 of luminol before she stopped the slide show. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not looking because that point really doesn't matter., Not to me.
      She states she was shown photo's of visible blood, on 10 different items.

      Trista has never mentioned seeing photo's of any evidence other than those of the visible blood evidence, and 2 of the luminol glow.
      Why would MSP show her photo's of dirty clothes and beer bottles?




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    6. Yes, the "side by side comparison photos" could be considered separate or together.

      but some may have forgot that Trista was also shown photos of the blankets found in the Kennebec River at this setting.

      http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Items-found-in-Kennebec-River.html

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  11. Here's a question that has been bothering me. Why would Justin tell his roommates that he didn't take Ayla to her doctor's appointment on Friday because he had a hangover, when he talked to Trista on Thursday and told her he was skipping the appointment? Why would he lie to his roommates about the reason if he was planning to skip it?

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    1. Really? A hangover? And he doesn't even drink. Amazing.

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  12. What???? MSP was processing a crime scene of a missing child during Christmas time, leaving their own families behind. And they chose the Dipietro's house to party in?

    Seriously???

    I might may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but that sounds like a load of bovine fecal matter.

    What are we supposed to believe next? Ayla is with Santa Claus @ the North Pole???

    I know Tori is confident in her source or it wouldn't be here.

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    1. It's my impression from what Tori wrote, and I can only go by that;

      Derek thinks it's a joke that MSP said that the house was a step away from a hoarders house and was littered with beer bottles. He is saying that there were no beer bottles there.

      My impression from what Tori wrote is not that Derek said that MSP was partying there.
      Tori is asking the question, how did the beer bottles get there? The way I understand it is SHE is asking if MSP were partying there.

      Is that correct Tori?

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    2. Yes Anon 1 you are absolutely correct in your interpretation into my meaning. Derek didn't say or imply that MSP was drinking there only that there were no beer bottles there prior to their arrival so I was asking where did they come from. Chicken Little knows me very well in terms of how wry I can be. I am sure if she retreads it she will get my meaning. :) she also knows I would never post it if I wasn't 100% sure it was said.

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    3. "A source tells me that according to Derek Tudela he thinks the reports that police call the DiPietro house one step away from a hoarder's house, dirty, and littered with beer bottles "a joke". He claims the house was not dirty until MSP got there and trashed the place."

      My question is to Derek: How do you know this information enough to dispute it? Where you there before MSP got there?

      Apparently Derek says it looked like a tornado hit the house and that MSP left fingerprint dust from floor to ceiling. He also claims MSP broke furniture and that furniture was missing and that there were no beer bottles there before MSP got there.

      So from this statement Derek was there (at 29 Violette Ave house) before and after MSP "got there".

      He also goes on to say that they made no attempt to clean the house which was appalling to him since the family willingly vacated the house and handed over their keys asking officers to do whatever it takes to find their little girl.

      So why is he upset that MSP turned the house upside down trying "to do whatever it takes to find their little girl [AYLA]"??

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    4. "Were" instead of Where".

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    5. Sorry. I made a dumb statement. I'm tired & not myself right now.

      I knew what Tori meant. (At least I think I do.). I was just so flabbergasted by the statement that beer bottles weren't there until after MSP was there.

      I was just adding on to Tori's sarcasm with my own.

      I'm sorry but I just can't see MSP "planting" beer bottles & cans or partying in the Dipietro house.

      ME LE has most definitely irritated me in their handling of this case but I don't buy MSP being responsible for the beer bottles & cans.

      Again, sorry for the off color remark & confusion.

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  13. If the paternal family and others believe Ayla is still alive, and Justin was working with Laura Recovery Center, why is she not listed on their missing files page: http://www.lrcf.net/missing/ ?

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    1. Jazzie...because Justin isn't working with them. He's working with TLLOM, Heidi and Angela's blog group.

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    2. Last I knew, TLLOM was not an official "group" to help families of missing. They are just friends and supporters of Justin and his family. So, "working with them" might not be a great description. Typically families work with independent and unrelated programs.

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  14. I've never heard of a search of a house being done where they neatly put things back into drawers and did a general cleanup after. They were not only gathering evidence but searching for evidence, that includes EVERYWHERE in the house.

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