Saturday, October 12, 2013

How Much Was Ayla Worth?

How Much Was Ayla Worth?

From the beginning there has been speculation that the motive for Ayla's disappearance was money. Money has been a central theme for a lot of this case actually. It has been thought that Justin's motivation for taking Ayla was to relieve himself of a child support payment and also to reap any benefits afforded to him by the state for being Ayla's sole caregiver. I just can't see that the amount of money that Justin would save by not making child support payments to Trista would be enough to justifiy taking on primary responsibility of her. As those of us with children know, the $40/week payment he would have been making to Trista is far less than the actual weekly cost of caring for a child. Even if you factor in welfare, the max he likely would have received for a family of two is about $300/mo cash and $300/mo in food stamps. He also most likely wouldn't have even qualified for welfare since he was living with his mother and wasn't responsible for rent. The state bases any benefits on what your income is minus monthly living expenses. Sure Justin could have then asked the court to make Trista pay child support but if she didn't have an income and was already receiving state benefits for her other child she would be exempt from paying child support to Justin. It would not have benefited Justin financially to take over full responsibility of Ayla. Even if he did receive the $300 cash a month he would be responsible for clothing her, medical needs such as medicine and copays for doctor visits, toys, diapers, wipes, daycare, etc...

    
 
He didn't need Ayla in his primary custody to get a life insurance policy on her either although having her in his care would make it easier for him to make it so he could collect on said policy if that was his intention. Of course it would also make him a suspect which could negate any payout so was the life insurance policy merely a coincidence or a poorly thought out and executed motive for murder? How difficult would it have been to make Ayla disappear while she was still in Trista's care? Kids are abducted daily from parks and playgrounds and even in stores while mothers are preoccupied with something else. Justin would likely never been a bleep on the radar had it played out that way.

Now Trista is leaving the door open to sue DHHS and could receive up to $400,000 if she does file against them and can prove they were indirectly responsible for Ayla's disappearance. No amount of money is going to bring Ayla back or even lead to answers to her whereabouts as the unclaimed and now expired reward showed us. Many feel Trista should go ahead with the suit but just as many, if not more, feel she is looking for a payday and isn't entitled to a lawsuit. 


I can see why those opposed feel the way they do. Ayla was removed from her care because she was given an ultimatum by DHHS to enter rehab. She entered a program for ten days. DHHS would not have mandated it they felt she did not have a problem with substance abuse. Reportedly in Trista's case it was alcohol. Legally DHHS cannot just step in and make mandates unless they feel the child is in immediate danger and a judge signs off on them being able to take custody of the child. If they don't have reason to believe that the child is in immediate danger they had to have had prior contact with Trista and done an initial assessment and found that they need to be involved for the welfare of the child. DHHS has a process and procedure that they must follow. Even if the DiPietro's had a friend working as a supervisor in the Lewiston area where Trista was living it is extremely unlikely that they were assigned the case and instead the case would have been brought to their attention by a caseworker who felt probable cause to bring it to their attention.

Also Ayla was sent to live with her father who under the laws of Maine had just as much of a right to her as Trista did. How could DHHS know that she would be in any more danger with her father than if she stayed with her mother? Furthermore, Trista attended rehab for only a short time. If DHHS were to know that Ayla could be in danger with Justin how come Trista didn't know and go retrieve her as per the agreement once her stay in rehab was completed? If Trista truly believed Ayla was being abused, why not immediately go to the court and file for immediate custody? Why didn't Trista go to DHHS upon her release from rehab and demand they honor their agreement? 


What happened to Ayla is tragic. That she still has not been found and those responsible have so far escaped justice is infuriating but Ayla's worth cannot be given a value. She was worth more than a $40/week and worth more than a $25,000 life insurance payment, and she is worth more than a $40,000 payday. 
 

So what say you? Was Ayla only viewed with $ by her father? Was the life insurance policy a coincidence or motive for murder? Should Trista be allowed to sue DHHS for Ayla's disappearance? 

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  1. If your child was murdered and someone else was responsible for taking your child out of your care, wouldn't you want to sue?

    Was Ayla only viewed with $ by her father? I really don't think he cared that much about the $, but I think Phoebe was livid at the idea that support payment would go to Trista. She hated Trista, she's made that obvious. Justin was forced by his mother to take Ayla. Justin never wanted any of his children. I think the life insurance policy was coincidental.

    Should Trista be allowed to sue DHHS for Ayla's disappearance? Why not? If DHHS was instrumental in taking your child out of your care, placing your child in a home (without going through the proper channels) and then abandoning that child (never checking up on your child at the placement home), shouldn't you have the right to sue if your child disappeared from that home? I think most of us would say HELL YEAH!

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    1. I agree.

      And thank you Tori.

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  2. Living in a litigious society - basically the only way to make a change/make a statement is to sue.

    It stinks but it is a reality. People will talk the talk but won't walk the walk until you hit them in the pocket.

    So I when I heard about Trista keeping her options open - didn't surprise me at all.

    I don't blame her either. DHS, who is charged with keeping all our children safe, put Ayla in a worse spot than she was originally in.

    DHHS didn't ensure Ayla was safe like they should have. And it *seems* DHHS made many other mistakes that led to Ayla's demise.

    I don't hold DHHS in the state of Maine to a high standard. I have seen so much corruption. So ANYTHING I hear about doesn't surprise me.

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  3. As far as why Justin "took" Ayla. The why is one thing that has mystified me. Do I think it was because he was a daddy that loved his daughter & wanted only the best for her? Sadly, no.

    I feel certain that the reason(s) for Ayla living with Justin - benefited Justin. He wouldn't have taken her unless it profited him in some way.

    I don't know what Phoebe's role was. Although I believe she was encouraging him to "retrieve" Ayla. Who knows why.

    The LIP has always confused me. I have been torn how the LIP has played into her "case".

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  4. I feel like Justin does love Ayla. We need to remember that he was already in Ayla's life prior to her coming to stay with him. If he didn't want her, he could have made his payments and gone about his life. He could have signed his rights away and had no responsibility for Ayla at all. A truly neglectful parent who does not care for their child would not make an effort. I don't think theLIP has any bearing on this case. I also don't think Trista has any grounds for litigation. Her actions directly put Ayla in Justin's care. DHHS did do their job. They forced a neglectful addicted mother to get help for the welfare of her children. They could have just as easily gotten a court order to remove both children from her but they gave her a chance to redeem herself. It remains to be seen who is truly responsible for Ayla's disappearance. Until then, Trista has no one to blame.

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    1. Sorry but I totally disagree. The blood evidence says a lot and all fingers point at Justin. Trista is not the cause of Ayla's demise, that is like saying an abused person said the wrong thing and thats why they were abused. Trista does have the right to sue DHHS and I hope she does. It will not only cause change in the system so maybe this won't happen again, but it will keep Ayla's name out there.

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    2. "He could have signed his rights away and had no responsibility for Ayla at all" This statement is wrong on so may levels. There's not much you can do to absolve yourself of child support obligations, including giving up your parental rights. If the support obligation is there, you're going to have to pay it.

      Unless relinquishing parental rights comes with transferring them to an adoptive parent, the process is not clean. The state ALWAYS looks at the best interest of the child when determining where her support comes from, and it's ALWAYS best that children are supported by both their parents.

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  5. I think it's more complicated than that. Some people bridle at being told what to do or perceiving they are being told what to do. Justin was told he had to support a daughter he had not up to that point had contact with and continued to have minimal contact with. I think control was a huge issue.

    As for $, I doubt Justin sat down and calculated how much it would cost to have her. I think he may have looked at the immediate cost of not paying Trista (via the state) and nothing more. And I suspect it would not have cost him anything to have Ayla because it was Phoebe who had Ayla and who had a house, a paycheck, etc... Didn't his roomies say he was living in Portland for quite a bit of the Oct. to Dec. timeframe... during which time Ayla was in Waterville, not their Portland apt.? I think you should maybe revisit those early posts Tori and try to establish a timeline of sorts. It would help clarify the big picture and potential motives. I know I've forgotten many of the details posted early on.

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    1. I agree, it had more to do with control. Sometimes the non custodial parent feels like the CHILD support is going to the other parent, even though it's actually to help support the child. Sometimes they feel like if they are paying they should jusr have the child, and sometimes they don't realize just how much it actually costs to raise a child, never mind all the work, physical and emotional, and everything that it takes to raise a child. It can be stressful in many ways. Most parents do it without batting an eye, but for some it can become too overwhelming, which I think happened.

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    2. Anonymous 8:24 PM, I think you hit the nail on the head. I don't believe it was Justin who wanted custody. I think it was Pheobe who forced Justin to do it. I think Justin enjoyed his life without children.

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  6. One other thing - DHHS does not always work the way it is supposed to, and people who insist it does may be saying so in good faith but they are not fully informed. If DHHS and/or its personnel acted in violation of law with the result a child died in this case, it wouldn't be the first time, and a lawsuit is in my opinion all the more necessary to force changes because of it not being a singular lapse. There is also criminal responsibility for the individuals involved in any illegal transfer of a child, assuming the allegations of Ayla's illegal transfer to Justin hold water.

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    1. I agree CG. I raised three kids by myself and it was hard. I dealt with DHHS when it came to child support and they seemed to help Dad more than me. I couldn't afford an attorney so would ask DHHS to recalculate support as the children grew. I was forced to a mediation with a DHHS worker and the ex. I never got the full amount and he always was able to walk away not fully supporting his children. Im glad those days are done, it was very, very frustrating. I have always worked and never taken anything from the State. DHHS was not my advocate.

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  7. DHHS is way under staffed and under funded to do their job the way it should be done.It is the same all over the United States not just Maine. It use to be 60 years ago and earlier people farmed their children out because they could not afford to care for them properly. Some real youngsters like Ayla's age lived with either Grandparents, Aunts and Uncles, and some were raised by their sisters. In instances this was far better than today. Most of us never had to deal with DHHS as it wasn't in existence then.

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  8. All of this DHHS stuff is such crap. Talk about distractions, sheesh!

    Its so simple. Mother and father have equal rights. Mother was incapacitated, father gets the child. No mystery, no impropriety, just a bunch of people pissed that dad had rights.

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    1. You may have to eat those words, Anon 1:52. Just because parents have equal rights to their child in the absence of a court order providing otherwise, it does not follow that DHHS is blameless for any action it took.

      Trista was not pissed Justin had rights as a father. As I recall, she encouraged him to be involved in Ayla's life and it was he who resisted...

      Re: my above post, I am not pissed Justin had rights as a father.

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    2. Does anyone know how many times DHHS has been sued and had to pay out any money?

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  9. John P.

    I want to extend my sincere best wishes to you. May your health improve. I'd like to offer this comforting scripture. Psalm 55:22

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  10. I guess it is one way of keeping the fact Ayla is still missing out there. It does bring more attention to Trista and you associate her with Ayla. Will it do any good as far as relief of pain I don't think so. I don't even know if it will shake up the politicians that decide the staffing,funding and guidelines of DHHS.

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    1. It worked in 2007 in Las Vegas. http://www.8newsnow.com/story/6032678/las-vegas-mystery-little-girl-lost-part-2

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  11. I don't think it will work here, if any of you aren't familiar with the case of Logan Marr, you can read about it here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fostercare/marr/

    And how her case supposedly changed the DHHS CPS program here: http://www.pressherald.com/news/childs-death-changed-protective-care_2011-01-30.html?pagenum=full

    If anyone had a suit against DHHS it was Christy Marr and nothing happened with them, no one was even reprimanded

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    1. Here is another recent case of Maine DHHS accused of misusing its authority: http://bangordailynews.com/2013/09/05/news/bangor/group-protests-dhhs-overreach-of-authority-involving-brooklin-teen-who-feeds-her-baby-homemade-goat-milk-formula-avoids-vaccines/

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  12. You can't see why a father would rather have full control of a child (all decisions included in full custody, school, medical care. Who the child sees and doesn't see. Etc.) Than make monthly payments to a woman who decided to carry the child full term even tho he wanted her to abort? You can't see that? Its called revenge.
    It happens everyday.
    I may be wrong also but I don't think that a parent not having a job causes child support payments to be suspended or voided. Whether a parent is working or not the child is alive and needs to be fed,clothed, sheltered. Just because an absent parent has no job doesn't mean the obligation to support the child isn't an ongoing thing. When a parent is unemployed or falls behind on current support the amount of past due support accrues. The absent parent can also be responsible for back payment of hospital fees, DNA testing to establish paternity, and funds issued through the state of tanf/afdc payments made to the parent with physical custody of the child. Even after the child reaches adulthood back payments owed must be paid. It is a debt. Wages and income taxes can and will be garnished when back support is owed until the debt is paid in full.

    So tell me again why Justin wouldn't benefit from assuming custody of ayla?

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  13. I forgot to mention other penalties apply to failure to pay child support which include, but are not limited to: suspension or revocation of driving privileges, suspension of hunting/fishing licenses, and jail time.

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    1. We don't know for sure if Justin was paying support or not when he did not have Ayla. There has never been proof of that to my knowledge just he said she said so he likely wouldn't have dealt with losing his license and wages garnished. As far as we know he was working at a restaurant, the same place the mother of his other child worked and she claimed he paid child support. I am not saying that revenge wasn't a motive or an issue I just don't think a reprieve from child support was motive for murder.

      The only time child support is forgiven is if the absent parent is on state assistance themselves. To my understanding, DHHS will not go back and try to collect the missed payments while the absent parent was on welfare when they are not on welfare. That might be something worth checking into to be sure but when I asked DHHS that was the response I got.

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  14. A question I have about child support in this case is: has Justin been required to pay child support since Ayla has been missing?

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    1. I don't believe so, Justin's obligation to child support would have ended when he took physical custody of Ayla. He could then decide to go after Trista for child support if he chose or if he was getting any sort of state assistance they would automatically go after her for support.

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    2. Unless he owed back support

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    3. If the courts ordered Justin to pay child support, he would have to petition the court to have it amended. The court wouldn't know he had "custody" of Ayla, as they never awarded him custody.

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    4. When DHS is involved because either parent received aid which Trista likely did because she was unemployed with two kids child support orders can be issued through the state and DHS through their child support enforcement and recovery program. Likely the orders would see a judge on DHHS behalf and DHHS was aware that Ayla was removed from Trista's custody as they removed her

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    5. OK, thanks Tori. I wasn't aware of of the involvement of the state and DHHS in child support matters.

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    6. Most child support cases do just go through probate or family court but DHS has a vested interest in cases where one parent receives aid for the child because the absent parent is obligated to pay the state back for medical insurance, tanf, and food stamps. Sad that the only time a parent is really forced to pay is when DHS wants their cut of the money

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    7. Tori, did DHHS remove Ayla?

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    8. The answer to that question is still unknown I guess. Trista says yes they did so they are liable. It was reported she was given an ultimatum either they would take Ayla or go to rehab as also reported by Trista. She went to rehab but DHHS still facilitated Justin in taking her from Jessica and Becca while Trista was in rehab. If Trista had made arrangements for Ayla to stay there and didn't want Justin to take Ayla then DHHS removed Ayla from her. The whole situation with Ayla going to live with Justin is confusing. Did CPS file to have her removed? I don't know. So did they remove her legally? That is the question I guess

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    9. Are you absolutely sure that those are the rules regarding child support in the state of Maine, Tori? I am asking because in the state of Oregon, DHS does not intervene in child support cases regardless of whether or not the custodial parent is receiving state benefits. It is optional for the custodial parent to file for child support through the state of Oregon. Even if a child support judgement is awarded through a divorce process, the custodial parent is not required to open a child support case through the state of Oregon. A custodial parent can choose to collect directly from the noncustodial parent. Obviously, the process varies on a state by state basis.

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    10. Justin's child support would not stop once he had Ayla, he would have to either go to Court or get intouch with DHHS and they would decide. If Justin just stopped paying because he had Ayla he would owe Trista all of that child support. You cannot just stop paying child support it has to be ordered. Just like if you have your child for the summer only, you still have to pay

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  15. I actually commend Trista (and her legal counsel) for keeping her options open in regards to a lawsuit against DHHS. I don't believe that she is motivated by money; it is more likely a matter of principle. I hope that Trista files a civil suit againt Justin Dipietro as well.

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    1. 'against'.....

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    2. I am 100% positive. When I took back custody of my son from his father, he demanded I did not go after him for child support. I had no intention of doing so either as he had never asked me for it during the 4 months he had him. The agreement was only we split expenses that arose as far as school clothes, and medical insurance wouldn't cover etc. When I took Andrew back from him, I was not working and as most of you know, my son has cancer and requires chemo treatments for the rest of his life. I didn't have insurance through tmobile anymore so had to apply for Mainecare for him. They advised me if I received any state benefits, even insurance, they would automatically go after the absent parent for child support. If I received cash benefits, they would either keep the child support payments or deduct the amount from any money I received monthly as it was considered income. If I didn't receive cash benefits but did not have another insurance to offset Mainecare's costs, they could and in my case did, retain the child support payments made to reimburse the insurance. He was ordered to pay $40/wk which I believe they based off his income but petitioned DHHS and they reduced it to $25/wk. I never received a check from him although he paid every week.

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    3. I don't know if this was always their policy or so,etching Governor LePage enacted to get the budget down.

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    4. Also when we went to court to arrange the custody agreement, the court order also stated no child support requirements however DHHS overruled and were able to impose them

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    5. Wow, It sounds like the DHHS is pretty extreme there. Here in Oregon, that is not the case at all.

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    6. In California, it is like it is in Oregon too.

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    7. I think a lot of changes were made following Logan Marr's case and when LePage became governor. Sadly the changes didn't make much by way of improvements. The rate of people on state assistance drastically dropped when they imposed a 5 year maximum on receiving any kind of benefits. People didn't miraculously get financially stable or gain an education overnight. Now they are even more destitute with no state aid to help them and the state is still in the red.

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    8. That is really sad to hear. It sounds like very conservative leadership.

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    9. Rose City, Oregon, there is nothing wrong with conservative leadership. In fact, it's probably what our country needs right now. If you look at a majority of welfare recipients they are able bodied and able minded people. I watch a young single woman, come to my office to pay her rent, she pays $25 dollars a month and YOU and I pay the rest $1325.00. She is in her late 20's, has four children (just popped another one out last year), single and collecting welfare. When she comes in to pay her $25.00, she has salon manicured nails, salon done hair, the latest in clothing and accessories. She also has the latest cellphone whenever they come out with a new one. She is suppose to live alone at the house she rents, but whenever people go by the house, there is always a male around (living there? Who knows). If he is, he's living rent free (on us).

      Leaving welfare recipients on welfare for 5 years, is 4 years too much in my opinion. If some of these welfare frauds would get off their butt and work for a living, we wouldn't be in the fiscal problems we are in.

      If I was in charge of welfare, here's how it would work. First of all, you get no money, no debit cards and no free ride. You get meals and housing for 1 year, but during that year you have to do something to earn it. No free rides. The state can provide daycare for your children while you go "work" for a non-profit, or for the state. Clock in every day, have your supervisor send reports to the welfare dept, showing you worked and you'll get your welfare for one year. After that year, your on your own.

      No one pays my way. I work myself and I'm 60 years old. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tired of paying for the lazy butt 20 somethings who just don't want to work and are popping out babies to pay their way. It's clear the liberal way of handouts doesn't work. In fact, it's bankrupting US.

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    10. Anon, I wish there was a "like" button!

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    11. Unfortunately, "corporate welfare" is the real problem in the United States, not public benefits. It is a statistical fact that the most liberal states are overall healthier in terms of both economics and quality of life. The liberal states also use less federal tax dollars than their conservative counterparts. The level of education among people in liberal states is also higher in general. Of course there are always exceptions to the norm. I know that in Michigan (under a republican governor) they tried something kind of similar to your suggestion, and it didn't work. In fact, the state ended up much worse off than it was before. Yes, it is unfortunate that there will always be those that take advantage and game the system. From your description, it sounds like the woman has Section 8 housing, or lives in HUD subsidized housing. If she is receiving a Section 8 subsidy, it was the homeowner's choice to accept it. There are many people who truly need help (especially our veterans and the disabled). MOO.

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    12. Rose, you've probably been reading way too many liberal pr papers. The facts are, if people are collecting money and not work, the system doesn't work. You cannot take money from working individuals and give it to the lazy. After a while, the working people will stop working.

      If this homeowner didn't accept it, another one would. It isn't the homeowner offering housing that is the problem. It's a system that allows an able bodied, able minded young woman to get something for nothing, that is the problem.

      Well, it works in New York.

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    13. That is your perspective, and I respect that. However, there is much more to it than that. Nothing is ever just black and white, and there are statistics available that prove what I have stated--not anecdotal stories. Actually, I don't read "liberal pr papers", but I could be insulting, and say the same thing about you reading conservative papers. I choose not to though; I don't assume anything about others, and I try to be open-minded to other peoples' point-of-view. There will always be those who take advantage of government help, but there are also many who truly need help and go on to become educated, productive members of society. Anyway, we could go back and forth here "Anonymous", but that would be especially confusing for me considering I wouldn't know which "Anonymous" I am communicating with. Have a great day.

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    14. Rose and Anon, I think you are both partially correct. There are far too many people collecting benefits for too long a time in this country (tho I don't care for Anons solution, particularly) but corporate welfare is a much bigger problem when it comes to the effect on the U.S. budget. We need to address each problem on its own merits.

      An aside: I recently mentioned tactfully to some food stamp recipients that I think the cuts to the program are a good thing because the country can't afford to keep paying for more and more people's food. Several agreed with me. If you look at the school lunch program, as another example, a third of the kids in the country roughly are getting free food at school- even though their parents get food stamps, too, designed to supplement their own food budgets- and some districts give free lunches and breakfasts to everyone once the participation rate hits a certain level, including those with no documented need. While I believe we need these programs to help those who fall in hard circumstances and need help, the programs are out of control IMO.

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    15. Thank you, CG. I do agree that the public benefits programs need to be revamped. Regarding food stamps, (SNAP), in Oregon they are only available for families with children ages six and younger. Otherwise, an individual must be attending school, (college or a vocational program, not high school level), a certain number of credit hours, in addition to having a child under the age of eighteen in the household, in order to qualify; alternatively they must be approved for a work-study program or work twenty hours a week to qualify. I know someone in that situation; she attends school and has two children at home. I am not sure about the rules regarding TANF. Actually, Oregon may have changed to only allowing recipients to receive TANF for a maximum of five years; I am not sure though. However, I don't know of anyone personally who would rather collect TANF and SNAP in lieu of having a job. Plus, if a parent receives child support through the state, and receives TANF, she/he will not receive both. The state will take the child support payments. With the cost of living, the maximum amount available in TANF funds would barely cover the cost of a two bedroom apartment. An additional incentive to work is that we have one of the highest minimum wage rates in the nation, ( currently $8.95 an hour and set to increase to $9.15 hourly in January), and wait staff are paid minimum wage plus tips. The minimum wage is increased each year. We don't have sales tax either, which helps. The waiting list for Section 8 Housing in both Washington and Multnomah counties (Portland, Oregon and suburbs) is several years long. That is the situation in desirable cities, in general--especially west coast cities. I agree, we do need these programs (a safety net) for those in need.

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  16. Rose... Tori is correct our state collects child support thru DSER a dept. Of Maine Dept. Of health and human resources. Its called the division of support enforcement and recovery.

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  17. PforA, if you are still reading here, please know you are welcomed here. I went to check your blog but it appears you closed it. If you would like to submit a post here, please email me directly at torigifford@icloud.com

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  18. PforA's current blog
    http://wheresayla.blogspot.com/

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    1. Thanks CG. For some reason it came back on blogger as no longer existing. I probably entered the wrong URL

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    2. If DHHS is corrupt or merely dysfunctional in the state of Maine suing them may be the only way that their little club secrets can be opened to public scrutiny and cleaned up. A lawsuit might bring any suspected DHHS chicanery into the light of day.

      DHHS in most states is a law unto themselves. I know they are in our state because my daughter's fiance' once worked in that office. His tales out of school would curl your hair.

      DHHS has to reveal NOTHING. They're like a super secret society. And usually state oversight is lax. No one wants to disturb the status quo.

      Sue them and bring all their dysfunction out in the open so that IF they are guilty of playing some illegal part in what happened to Ayla, the state will have to pay. Maine is a poor state. Perhaps if it has to lose some of the taxpayer's money, what happened to Ayla will not happen to another child, at least in Maine.

      As posters said before me, sometimes a lawsuit is the only way to get to the truth and prevent that ugly truth from perpetuating itself. Suing is not always about money.

      I rather doubt that Trista is putting a price on Ayla's head. That is, if she does sue. One thing is certain: to go against a state agency whose probable main activity is CYA, she'll need a good lawyer who will want a hefty price for going up against the government.

      Again we read that Trista is in the wrong. There appears to be quite a lot of backbiting and perhaps jealousy connected to Trista and all her doings.
      Trista is suspicious for holding back the info she got in January. She is suspected of having ulterior motives in releasing it now.
      She was suspicious in choosing her boyfriend and his mother to view the info.with her.
      She was wrong in releasing the information at all as she is going against LE and probably putting the case in danger.
      Trista is wrong to make a fuss in public and in the media and confront Phoebe and Justin.
      Trista is needy and craves attention and all her efforts to get answers is a mere bid for a media spotlight.
      She is wrong to sue DHHS (if she does so) and her threat to sue shows she's not thinking of Ayla, but of what Ayla can do for her monetarily.

      Despite the fact that her child is missing, very likely dead and tossed in the river like so much garbage, no damm one will give her any answers and no matter how she tries to get them, she is always wrong.

      Naysayers, ever take a day off from skewering Trista? Want to walk a day in her shoes? Ever lost a child the way Trista has?

      Nevermind, Trista is just not perfect, and it's dammed annoying to some of us who could have handled all her life and each crisis so much better and with so much more grace.

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    3. I am damned tired of constantly being accused of skewering or attacking Trista. This post certainly did not attack anyone and stated facts of this case, period. The comments also are all supportive of a lawsuit so I suggest people stop reading with blinders and constantly needing to defend Trista. Ayla is the one who needs defending.

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    4. It seems to me that there are some
      "trolls" who are in the business of wearing Ayla bloggers down.

      Also, it appears that maybe others are getting the wrong idea about this blog from other sources.

      I haven't seen it on this blog but I have seen a lot of complaining about those who hold alternate view points about what happened to Ayla. I don't understand it.

      Nobody sees anything the same.

      So, from my view, there are two forces at work here.

      If you can, let it roll off you like water on a duck's back. I know, easier said than done.

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    5. Thanks again for having my back ChickenLittle, I wish others knew just how much you have personally done for Ayla and Trista and would listen more to what you say, you are truly the most non judgmental and fair person I know.

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    6. Aww thanks Tori. I haven't done all that much. God knows what & why I have done certain things. That's all that matters.

      Ayla was a little princess that deserved so much more than she got. I wish I. ould somehow give her what she didn't recieve in life.

      As for being non judgemental - I've got you fooled. Don't I? ;) This past year I've been very judgemental & very grumpy. Looking forward to mellowing out again. :)

      And Oh my! No one should listen to me! SCARY! ;)

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    7. You have had a reason to be grumpy but you are not judgement all period. You just tell it like it is lately and don't sugarcoat things and I like that. Thank that little miracle in your belly for that. I am honored to call you my friend and so appreciate all the support and sticking by me

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    8. Congratulations Chicken!!!!

      I don't know you personally, I can't remember ever seeing a judgmental comment that you've made.
      I usually enjoy your comments.

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  19. http://askingforaylareynolds.blogspot.com/2013/10/dhhs-information-from-jeff.html

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  20. "Just a bunch of people who are pissed because dad had rights" Well this is just stupid. We are a lot of people that are totally pissed because Ayla was with an incompetent father that did not take care of his child and now she is no longer with us. He has blood on his hands and needs to start talking. He needs to pay for whatever happened to that precious little girl!

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    1. How could I be "pissed that Dad had rights"? I don't give a good...well I don't care. Talk about missing the point! Typical response from a Justin supporter. They've got to miss the point. What else is there?

      I care if illegal activity by DHHS circumvented any legal routes in the hand-over to the DiPietros. Justin was supposed to return Ayla and he did not. Where was DHHS in getting LE to enforce what he had agreed upon?

      Maybe the Justin cheering section should take off their blindfolds for one minute and ask some questions of the DiPietros. But they don't ask them do they? It's always about Trista with them. It's an obvious ploy to escape looking at the big ol' mama's boy in the middle of the room. That's what pisses me off.

      Justin gets a free pass from those who think he is incapable of harming Ayla, or hiding her body. If we know anything from following crime cases of this sort, many parents kill their chidren, usually from abuse and they hide the bodies. The caretakers say later on that the abuse was not meant to go so far. The kids are always still dead from the parents' abuse, neglect, or "disciplining".

      Strangely enough, I have always believed that what happened to Ayla was an accident of neglect. Justin was drunk or sleeping off a drunk and Ayla took a great tumble down those steep basement stairs. Because he was drunk or otherwise incapacitated, Justin did not call for medical help to save her life. And she bled to death.

      That's what I have always believed. If I am right, that alone, proves that Justin was incapable of being her caretaker and should not have been handed the task in the first place. No matter if Phoebe called the tune and demanded that Justin take Ayla to save her, Phoebe, child support payments.

      Covering up the scene of Ayla's accident and hiding her body shows that Justin is still a child in a man's body, but what does Phoebe's and Elisha's aid and comfort in this matter suggest? They probably don't have the excuse of being drunk, so their covering up for Justin is calculated and appalling. That pisses me off.

      Justin or his accomplice tossing Ayla into an abandoned well or down a mine shaft is what pisses me off. It as if Ayla never existed.

      DHHS should have inspected where Ayla was going to be living and in what circumstances. They didn't follow up to see how Ayla was faring in her forced environment. Just as the DiPietros, now, don't follow up to see how Ayla is doing with the mysterious midnight maruder.

      How was Justin doing in the act of being a father?
      Who was mainly looking after Ayla while Justin went about his single life in Portland? When did he finally really settle in on Violette Avenue and give up his Portkand single life? When he brought his bed to Waterville the week of Ayla's "leaving"?

      No follow up by DHHS on Ayla. That pisses me off. I don't care if Justin had "rights", he did not have the mental and emotional age to handle his "rights". And the women in his life had to know that about him. They piss me off.

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    2. "And the women in his life had to know that about him. They piss me off."

      Does that include Trista?

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    3. Nina you piss me off and Im not the annon above.

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    4. Consider an anger management program.

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    5. Nina I'm not anon but IMO Trista can't be expected to know Justin the way his mom or sister do when they have lived with him every day for most of his life. I don't know what to think about Courtney though.

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    6. 3:16 I agree that she couldn't know him as well as those who knew him all his life, but to assume that those around Justin knew he was capable of killing or harming Ayla, if that's what happened, is something else entirely. Being immature and a cold blooded killer aren't the same.

      Anyway my point is that Penny aka anon seems to be selective with her attacks. Why she and the anon above you have to attack is something within them and not about me.

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    7. I know it is something within me, I can't stand to continually see people keep throwing Trista into the answer to "where is Ayla" She doesn't have a clue because Ayla wasn't with her when she vanished off the face of this earth. Justin was, why don't we stop trying to make this about Trista, it shows you insides and they don't look real pretty as a person. Just saying!

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    8. I ask questions about everyone and everything in this case. I make it about Ayla. I understand you don't find me to be an attractive person. Okie doke. Done here now.

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    9. Nina, BS. I haven't seen your blog ask anything of Justin. Just picking part Trista. Your blog is quickly becoming the JSTL replacement.

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  21. No matter what mistakes Trista made whether it be judgment in men or whatever, it is not her fault that Ayla is gone. It is the person with Ayla's blood on his hands. How can anyone defend him when he has her blood on his hands. How can anyone defend him as he stays silent and doesn't give the explanation to her disappearance. How can anybody believe his sick story that Ayla was abducted when he is the one with Ayla's blood all over him and his mother's house? Can someone answer this for me?

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    1. Nina how about it, can you answer this for me, you seem to be all about ignoring all of the above.

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    2. 3:20 I have a life, family, work, do you? Oh, I also now run a busy blog. So because I didn't reply right away you snap your fingers and think I should jump through your hoops? Lol. What are YOU doing for Ayla?

      3:17 If that's directed at me, I am not defending Justin. Read my blog.

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  22. Oh I see. You are the same anon. So I answered it for you.

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  23. I do work and have a family. Thank you for asking, I guess running the blog is overload for you by the sounds. You didn't answer my question. You made the comment above asking if it also included Trista, to me that was uncalled for. Can you answer my questions?

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    1. Nina maybe I misunderstood what you meant by your comment, could you help me out here?

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    2. Yes, it's a lot.

      1) No matter what mistakes Trista made whether it be judgment in men or whatever, it is not her fault that Ayla is gone.

      I don't know who killed Ayla so just like LE, I have cleared no one in my mind. But I am leaning heavily towards Justin, not Trista. But I would never say "Because Trista went into rehab, Ayla went missing."

      2) It is the person with Ayla's blood on his hands.

      I don't know who that is. LE found blood in the house, not on his hands metaphorically or literally. If they have they haven't announced it or made an arrest.

      3) How can anyone defend him when he has her blood on his hands. How can anyone defend him as he stays silent and doesn't give the explanation to her disappearance.

      I don't defend Justin at all. For example:

      http://askingforaylareynolds.blogspot.com/2013/10/justin-and-laura-recovery-center.html

      4) How can anybody believe his sick story that Ayla was abducted when he is the one with Ayla's blood all over him and his mother's house? Can someone answer this for me?

      I haven't committed to a belief/theory about what happened. I can't speak for others. I think his story is hinky, though.

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  24. Thank you and sorry for judging, sorry for letting my emotions run my fingers, I read your blog and appreciate you fight for Ayla.

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    1. Is this for me? If so, I appreciate it. Thank you.

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    2. Yes for you. Sorry for judging, I get way to emotional, maybe I should take my husbands advice and stay off the blogs. My heart is so heavy for Ayla.

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  25. Just had a thought. After reading "Katie's" post about the horrific story of the fan and looking at where Ayla's blood was found, I wonder if Ayla was injured by the fan in the basement.

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  26. That's something to consider. I take my fan apart quite a bit to clean it. When I do I never think to clean the cord.

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