Wednesday, September 25, 2013

The Case for Ayla Cont.

On January 3rd of this year, investigators from the Maine State Police met with Trista, Alex (Trista's boyfriend), and Melissa (Alex's mother), for the purpose of disclosing a slideshow of select blood evidence collected from the DiPietros’ property in Ayla’s case.

Given the evidence shown, we believe there is more than enough for successful prosecution. We believe that a Grand Jury presented with this evidence would issue an indictment, enabling police to make arrests.

The Case for Ayla is about bringing justice to Ayla and her family, but there’s also a public interest at stake. When someone is killed, the justice system acts not only for the victim and the victim’s family but for the community at large. The presence of a killer in our midst is a condition we deserve to have remedied in the name of public safety by the public authorities who work for us, the citizens of Maine. The Attorney General’s office has the exclusive authority and responsibility to prosecute this homicide on our behalf. By releasing this evidence to the public, we are asking you to tell the prosecutor you want justice for Ayla, her family, and for all citizens.

It has been over twenty-one months and no one present at 29 Violette Avenue, where Ayla was reported missing, has been held accountable despite repeated police assertions that:
We respect the dedication of the police agencies and the prosecutor’s office in pursuing this case. However, we disagree with delaying arrest and prosecution. Trista now feels that her quest to “bring Ayla home” requires a public appeal for pressure on the Attorney General’s office to file criminal charges.
 
The following summarizes the collective recollection of Trista, Alex, and Melissa of the slideshow contents:

Ayla's Blood Found (The blood evidence described here was visible to the naked eye and not luminol enhanced).
  • Several drops of Ayla's blood were found on the left shoulder strap of Ayla's car seat in Justin's vehicle. Ayla's dried vomit was found on the backseat.
  • Droplets of Ayla's blood were found on the pompoms of her pink princess slippers.
  • A “silver dollar sized stain” of Ayla’s blood was found on the sofa in the DiPietro family’s living room (upstairs).
  • Ayla's blood was found smeared on her baby doll's face and arms in the bedroom she shared with Elisha DiPietro’s daughter (upstairs). It appeared that Ayla tried to wipe blood from her mouth with her doll.
  • Drops of Ayla's blood were found on a fan cord in Justin's basement bedroom.
  • Ayla's blood splatter was found on a plastic blue tote in the basement and a sheet that was found inside had Ayla's blood stains on it. MSP said that it had been used to cleanup Ayla’s blood.
  • Several drops of Ayla's blood were found on the tongue and inside Justin's sneakers in the basement beside his bed.
  • A "fist size stain” of Ayla's blood was found on Justin's mattress and sheets. This sample contained saliva, possibly vomit, and “a toy hair like" pink fiber which, at the time, MSP had not identified.
  • Several splatters of Ayla’s blood were found on sections of the cement floor and wall beside Justin’s bed. These blood splatters were consistent with Ayla's standing height, and were up to a dime in size. MSP’s blood analysts determined that the blood splatters were created by intense projectile vomiting and/or blunt force trauma.
  • Several splatters of Ayla’s blood were found on a wood pallet leaning against a wall in the basement.
 
Justin DiPietro: “It’s No Big Deal”
Three Maine State Police Detectives and a grief counselor from the Attorney General’s office oversaw this slideshow. They provided comparison photos (normal and enlarged sizes of Ayla’s blood) displayed from a laptop to an external display screen.

After the photos of blood visible to the naked eye were displayed, MSP began to show the luminol-enhanced photos, depicting additional blood of Ayla's upstairs and downstairs in the DiPietro’s house. Trista was unable to view any more of the horrific display after only two luminol-enhanced photos, and the slideshow was stopped.

Trista, Alex, and Melissa’s collective impression from the photos shown of Ayla’s blood, in and around Justin’s basement bedroom, was that his bedroom looked like a “murder scene”.

The MSP determined that the samples of Ayla's blood exhibiting a spray pattern could not have been the result of any cut.

Some samples of Ayla’s blood contained saliva, indicating to MSP that Ayla had been coughing up blood from internal injuries.

MSP concluded that Ayla’s injuries were both “internal and external".

When asked, Trista and Alex could not confirm if this was all of the physical evidence that MSP had found in and around the Dipietros’ residence.

MSP told Trista that they reviewed this evidence with the DiPietro family in November 2012. MSP stated that “Justin had no reaction.” In a subsequent conversation between Justin and Trista, Justin said about this evidence: “It’s no big deal”.


Tudelas, Roberts Refuse to Review Evidence
Justin has been friends with the Tudela family since childhood, and the Tudelas housed him and the rest of the DiPietros for two weeks after the DiPietro house was declared a crime scene. MSP told Trista that the Tudelas refused to look at the blood photos. The investigators did not explain why they sought to review the photos with the Tudelas.

Courtney Roberts, Justin’s girlfriend who was at Justin’s house the night of December 16, also refused to see the photos, according to investigators.


The Time is Right
MSP told Trista that they do not want to arrest Justin without Ayla’s remains for an airtight case. Therefore, the MSP has worked diligently to find her body to confirm their findings with an autopsy, but the undeniable truth is that unless Justin, Elisha, and/or Courtney come forward, Ayla may never be found.

The emotional impact of this evidence is overwhelming. We are overcome by shock and disbelief that there has not been an arrest. Ayla was in Justin’s care when was reported missing. Ayla’s blood is on Justin DiPietro’s bed, on the wall and floor of Justin’s bedroom, in Justin’s shoes, and in Justin’s car. Justin claimed that he and Courtney slept that night in his basement, a claim we find preposterous since his bed and basement were splattered with Ayla’s blood. Justin has not given police a credible explanation for any of this, and he has not been held accountable for Ayla’s demise.

“When the time is right,” Justin told the Kennebec Journal last year, “everything is going to come out.”
When Ayla’s blood is in your shoes Justin, the time is right to speak of what happened to your daughter.


Bolstered by Silence
For twenty-one months, Courtney and Elisha have kept Justin’s secrets. Every day while Trista grieves the loss of her daughter, Courtney and Elisha cradle their own toddlers in arms, play, laugh, cuddle and celebrate the milestones that Ayla has been forever denied, their consciences apparently deadened to the horror of their deceit. They have robbed Ayla of who she was and who she could ever be.

“If Elisha and Courtney do not speak for Ayla, the shadow of their silence will cast itself upon their children”. Primary Teacher – U4A Blogger


Justice for Ayla
Make no mistake, justice for Ayla affects everyone. The failure to act on this damning blood evidence offers a perverse incentive to the next volatile adult inclined to lash out at a helpless baby and the next caretaker tempted to forego emergency care for a baby in distress to shield themselves from the consequences of their conduct.

The evidence that Ayla died from trauma at 29 Violette Avenue is abundant. Justin DiPietro, Elisha DiPietro, and Courtney Roberts are legally entitled to remain silent so as not to incriminate themselves. Their silence does not require the rest of us to follow suit. We can speak up for Ayla and demand justice for this baby whose life ended abruptly and violently. Their refusal to tell police what happened to Ayla in the DiPietro’s house is not a barrier to their arrest and prosecution based on the evidence found by police that refutes their claim that Ayla disappeared during the night.

Knowing who is responsible for Ayla’s death and watching him enjoy his freedom as years pass, with no prosecution initiated, is unendurable. Seeing those who covered up Ayla’s death, and kept us from bringing her home, go unpunished, intensifies our pain.

It's uncivilized and unconscionable. It is something no homicide survivor, least of all the grieving mother of a deceased baby whose blood is all over her father’s house should experience at the hands of authorities charged with prosecuting homicide.


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 Address link: http://pressjustin.com/
..and help us bring Ayla home.
 
 
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130 comments:

  1. Jeff, you said there was no visible blood on the two blankets found. Was there DNA on them?
    Also how old was the vomit in Justin's SUV? Is this known. I would guess fresh. If I had that in my car for very long, I would be trading my car in.
    And I read that they can determine how old blood is. Also was everything still wet looking in photos or dried?

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  2. I just watched a bunch of the video footage from Trista and Jeff's non-news conference. What. Did. I. Just. See? Where do I start?

    1) it was clear Trista just wanted to confront Phoebe and Justin & wasn't there for a news conference.

    2) wtf is with her getting all googly eyed with Justin?

    3) after the confrontation, in her interview with the news, she said nothing about Justin murdering Ayla...instead she said how upset she was with the state for taking Ayla out of her sister's home, a perfectly safe place for Ayla.

    4) Justin and Phoebe showed amazing restraint while Jeff and Trista grabbed at them,obviously trying to elicit a physical altercation.

    5) Justin and Phoebe have every right to press charges against them for assault and should serve restraining orders on them both. Holy shit.

    6) I am basically flabbergasted at what I just watched. Flabbergasted.

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    1. It was not Jeff.

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    2. What was with Trista saying to Justin "I know you cared"?

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    3. Sorry... I meant Ron. See what this has done to me? lol

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    5. From the video clip that I saw, Phoebe instigated Trista's reaction at least with Phoebe. Phoebe saying, Trista tell us what you did with her. (Paraphrasing it)

      Phoebe was trying to get a reaction out of Trista & it worked. I can't even say what I think of Phoebe.

      Until now, I thought she was a mother in deep denial. Now I think differently & that's not a good thing.

      I still absolutely disagree with how Trista handled this. But she was definitely not 100% at fault - from what I could tell.

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    6. What a big imagination and a prejudiced one you have, Michelle. You really think you saw assaults on Phoebe and Justin? You think Trista running after Justin and asking him to talk to her is grounds for a restraining order? I can help but be blunt here. You're acting like Justin's apologist.

      Contrast what happened today with... Justin shoving Courtney in front of a cop. The prosecutor says no assault. Contrast it with... Justin (or someone Linnell thought was Justin) threatening Linnell on the phone,, then following him in a car with his brother, stopping so his brother could get out with a bat and attack Linnell while Justin saw nothing, and the court treated it as no big deal.

      But you think Justin needs a restraining order because Trista talking to him puts his life in jeopardy? That's biarre.

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    7. Funny...the clip I saw showed Phoebe sitting on a bench talking on her phone and Trista walked up to her and said "where's my daughter, Phoebe?!" then chased her down the sidewalk asking it over and over, pulling at her and getting in her face until Phoebe responded with her "why don't you tell me where she is?"

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    8. I think there is high emotions and frustrations on both sides.

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    9. Gp back and look at it again. Phoebe's accusation is a lot earlier, And yes, Trista did reach for Phoebe's arm but Phoebe told her not to touch her and Trista did not touch her after that point. Her initial action was not something that would have physically hurt Phoebe. Restraining orders are for people whose lives are in jeopardy, and Phoebe's life wasn't threatened explicitly or implicitly.

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    10. Regardless, Phoebe was sitting alone on the bench when Trista came up and picked a fight.

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    11. Phoebe and Justin are sick people. The truth will come out and they will see justice.

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    12. Well, Michelle, perhaps Phoebe and Justin should just tell Trista what they did with Ayla! They are hiding the truth and truth is that Ayla was physically harmed in Phoebe's home and then hidden. The Dipietros are cowards.

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    13. Phoebe isn't in denial. She's the puppet master pulling all her kids strings. Ma Barker of Maine, and her little posse of hoodlums.

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    14. Um from the news reports it stated that Phoebe started this in the courtroom by approaching Ron Reynolds FIRST and calling him an ASSHOLE. Maybe we didn't catch that on courtroom camera. So Phoebe instigated this and maybe the later confrontations that were caught on camera would have never happened if Phoebe were to have shut HER mouth.

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    15. Let's not forget Trista and Jessica assaulting each other in the presence of children and Ron attacking a family member with a knife. Anyone ever google Alex and his family members? More violence and cps involvement. Why is everyone so stuck on choosing a side? Trista lies. She lied yesterday. Jeff lies. Ron is a violent alcoholic. Becca has lied in interviews. Jessica had all of her children removed by cps. Ron Jr... don't get me started. The best friend who pulled off a jail break. Don't forget Ray Jr's daddy and grandma! These are not people with solid moral ground. Stop being blind, people! If everyone put as much effort into awareness for Ayla as they did defending their chosen side, we might have found her by now. Ignore Trista and Justin, focus on ways to find Ayla. Porch lights won't bring her home. Neither will this circus in the streets.

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  3. What happened to the other blog post from today? It has vanished.

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    1. So it's not just me....I really thought I was losing it...

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  4. Looks like someone deleted the 2nd Case for Ayla post.....wth is going on here?

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    1. I would assume someone didn't want all of our negative but truthful comments about Trista and company floating about. Explanation, Tori? If this is how it's going to be, I'm out. Ayla needs truth. Not a cover up for her "mother".

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    2. Deleted. That's interesting.

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  5. http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article/257799/3/Accusations-fly-as-DiPietro-appears-in-court
    Wow! It was your house and your sons things that had Ayla's blood on them. How can she ask this of Trista?

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  6. What happened to Trista's press conference at 1 pm?
    I though it was suppose to be at 1pm, in the little park adjacent to the courthouse
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    If the conference was to take place at 1 pm, at the park, why was Trista and her family in the courtroom at 1 pm and later? Why would they even be in the courtroom?

    Surely they knew this wasn't a wise idea.
    Surely Jeff advised them this was wasn't a wise idea. That it might cause a problem.
    Why would Trista throw away the opportunity of this press conference?
    Was there really a press conference planned?

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    1. I'm thinking not. They simply wanted to confront him and they were hoping to get a physical response from him and have it caught on camera. Then Trista remembered how infatuated she is with Justin and tried to put on the charm with him instead. It was uncomfortable to watch.

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    2. Michelle why don't you go stay with Justin with your babies. . . better yet why don't you drop you babies off for him to watch for a couple of weeks. . . if it was your babies blood that was all over his home and vehicle and his body maybe you would change your tune. . you are heartless and sound like you would like to be with Justin. . your as sick as he and his family are

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    3. This was a televised ambush.

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    4. Michelle I dont' think Trista's the infatuated googly eyed one.

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    5. Trista did do the press conference at 1:00. The stations may show it later. According to Jeff.

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    6. At 1 Trista was in the courthouse.

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  7. Dana and Foil,

    I understand your sentiments, very much so.
    I won't try to persuade to stay if you don't feel it is right for you.
    I do want you each to know that I enjoyed sharing this blog and comments with you.
    I have a lot of respect for you both.
    My best wishes and thoughts to both of you.
    I shall greatly miss you.

    I can't stay away. I just can't. Ayla draws me.

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  8. I am not home so my wifi connection is spotty, if I don't respond right away that is why. I just picked up signal and read the 55 emails and am enlightened to what is going on. I can't blame Dana and I can't blame Foil and the others that left or are leaving. I also can't sit here and do damage control because honestly right now I just don't have it in me. Dana and I will talk and have talked and maybe in time he will come back or open a new blog.

    In my opinion and this answers Rose City's comment somewhere above or if it was deleted I don't know what happened but if I was in Trista's shoes and my daughter was missing and I happened to run into the person I feel harmed her on the street yes I would demand answers, I would not however ambush them at a court appearance and with the media and act the way that was acted today.

    I was against the media release for many reasons but ultimately felt if this was how Trista was going to get LE to act and it helped her in getting justice and closure so be it. It wasn't my decision. However, with what happened today Trista was trying to force a confession out of Justin with the cameras rolling and that isn't forcing LE to act it is trying to close the case herself and it is wrong. Police have protocol for a reason and people have constitutional rights and the right to a fair trial even if they did murder or harm a child and they are the scum of the earth.

    When deciding to do a press conference at the court, they knew beforehand that there was the possibility of a confrontation or the courthouse would not have been the spot chosen for the PC. So no I don't think that Trista just got overcome with emotion and anger and this just happened. Trista put herself in the position for this to happen, she orchestrated it and all it succeeded in doing is making a mockery out of getting justice for Ayla.

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    1. Sorry but if I was in Trista's shoes and one of my children had been missing for two years and went missing while with her father and I was shown all the blood evidence, THROUGHOUT HIS HOUSE, ON HER TOYS, ON HER FATHERS SHOES, IN HER FATHER'S SHOES, BLOOD AND DRIED VOMIT IN HIS TRUCK, I'll tell you what, I would have done a lot worse then she did today and I would have done it the minute I felt he harmed her or hid her or disposed of her. . this is Trista's baby, he disposed of her baby. . . how could any mother not react the way she reacted today. Im proud of her for standing up the the woman abuser! He couldn't even look her in the eye and his mother was a bitch. . . why won't they answer the question of where the blood came from? Why? If it were me I would be afraid of what I would do to him.

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    2. Baby Ayla suffered and God only knows what he did to dispose of her, and he walks free and doesn't have to say a word of explanation except for the lame one he used as an excuse. . . may he rot in hell!

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    3. You don't dispose of babies!!!! What would you have done if you were in Trista's shoes and for two years got no responses to your questions???? Think about it.

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    4. Why did she wait as long as she did? Why didn't she do this as soon as she found out? I would have gone right over and knocked on Phoebe's door on January 3. I wouldn't have waited this long. Without cameras, so it couldn't jeopardize the case. But I would have confronted Phoebe, Elisha, Courtney and especially Justin. Trista admitted that she has talked to Justin since she found out about the blood and that Justin had no reaction. Did she ask him during that conversation where Ayla was? I doubt it.

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    5. We are seeking justice administered in an orderly and legal fashion by the court system.... Honoring Ayla's memory requires no less.

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    6. I am betting she has been asking every chance she has gotten. I imagine it took quite some time to accept what she saw in Jan.

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    7. Tori:
      "Trista put herself in the position for this to happen, she orchestrated it and all it succeeded in doing is making a mockery out of getting justice for Ayla."

      Please, if you thought someone harmed/killed your son/daughter, how would you react? And how would that be interpreted? What is your definition of seeking justice, especially if you have been waiting for justice for almost 2 years? Would you or would you not confront the person(s) you might think did harm/kill/obstruct justice to your daughter/son? Can anyone one of us say how we would react if we were shown blood evidence? I have witnessed a great deal. I understand that some may think this court encounter is "staged" or "over the top", but raw emotions are off the charts. Unfortunately, grief possesses its own timeline. I say this out of respect to all who are a voice for Ayla... I hope there is justice for Ayla.

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    8. And for all who think your efforts/voices for AYLA have been wasted:
      "I’ve learned that good can prevail in spite of the filthy crimes others commit and that a small voice is sometimes the loudest. Most importantly, I’ve learned that one person can make a difference in the life of someone else. It is not easy, but it is worth it."
      JoDee Lee Neil, Assistant Criminal ­District Attorney in Collin County
      http://www.tdcaa.com/node/6097

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    9. Trista has shown restraint. I know how I would have reacted if I saw those photos and Justin DiPietro and his mama treated me the way they have. It would not be nearly as in control as Trista had been all through this mess.

      The truth is the DiPietros think they can just keep silent and everybody will just go away. They'e probably right, but I can guess that Trista will be the exception; she will not go away.The Justin supporters can't abide that idea. The hatred for Trista is simply puzzling. Do we have fan girls of Justin here who have made it their crusade to spew this hatred for Trista because she got to slep with Justin and bear his child? Justin is not Brad Pitt. But I see the same crazy patters that obsessive fans display on celeb sites.

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  9. Trista was assertive demanding answers as she SHOULD be. So what she got riled when Grandma accused her. She did just have a baby within the last month, she has seen proof of what she and LE clearly feel was a death scene, she hasn't seen her daughter in nearly two years and the Dipiteros' can't even look her in the eye and answer a single question. What I found interesting was while both sides were blaming each other Trista was actually wanting an answer not just throwing out the accusation and walking away before getting one.

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  10. Did anyone watch HLN After Dark a few night ago? There was quite a bit made of Trista's reaction to Justin at one of the vigils. They were questioning why she seemed so cozy with him after learning of Ayla's blood.

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    1. She was trying to get ANSWERS from him. You do all kinds of things to try to get to the truth. He holds the answers, what else was she suppose to do? Of course she looked cozy toward him, she was probably sickened inside!

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    2. There was an anon on here one night claiming they had heard the tape and knew something about trista's agenda that day. Maybe they can come back and enlighten us about that day.

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    3. I think she was also desperately trying to believe him, trying to believe that he did nothing with Ayla, that her baby daughter was still alive.

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  11. As far as deleted comments, I did not delete any, a whole post has disappeared along with all the comments. I have not gotten an email explaining why so I don't know why they were removed or by whom. I will try to sort it out when I get home and have a minute to relax.

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  12. Phoebe does NOT deserve the title Ayla's "grandmother" She is far from a grandmother in any way, shape or form to Ayla. Her looks and words were like daggers shooting out.
    I for one do not blame Trista for what she did. I see her as a desperate mother trying every way to get answers about her daughter. She has waited for 21 months to try to find the truth about what happened to Ayla,
    You continue to push forward Trista, remain strong, and just know there are so many people that support you!
    I actually enjoyed Justin (the bully) being bullied !! I place that under Karma!!!

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  13. According to this article, Trista held a press conference before Justin's court appearance today:

    http://bangordailynews.com/2013/09/25/news/portland/relatives-of-ayla-reynolds-face-off-at-portland-court/

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    1. Thanks Rose.

      It's too bad all the other confrontational things had to happen today. It gave some sensationalism to media, same for some blogs and Facebook pages.. However, in my opinion, it took away from what could have been more meaningful for Ayla.

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  14. So...does anyone feel like anything positive was accomplished today? Did Ayla's case advance in any way? Is she any closer to receiving justice?

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    1. Alya's case has not advanced, simply because there needs to be a good prosecutor in Maine to advance it.
      Ayla is as close to receiving justice as the State of Maine is willing to advance seeking justice.

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    2. Jazzie, from what I have seen, Maine already has a good prosecutor. What purpose does it serve to take a case to trial that will be lost?

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    3. There are good prosecutors in Maine. Which prosecutor will be assigned to Ayla's case? And for what reasons do you think the case will be lost at trial?

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    4. Maeghan Maloney is the current DA for Kennebec and Somerset counties. I believe she would be a good candidate to prosecute and bring forth justice for Ayla Reynolds.

      http://www.kennebeccounty.org/kcda/index.html

      I do not believe this case would be lost at trial. I believe LE has an abundance of evidence to present that has not been released.

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    5. It's hard to say but I'm leaning toward yes. The case got a ton of publicity. Phoebe destroyed what precious little credibility she could call her own.I think the police and prosecutor can see what happened as a result of inaction against Justin and co. and maybe they will work a little harder to put together charges. Time will tell..

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    6. Yes I thought the press activity by Trista & Ron it was both cathartic and restrained garnering publicity to promote an eventual prosecution. Nobody was stabbed shot or even pushed to the ground so the over the top scale wasn't reached or breached. They needed to do this to prepare for the long road to justice. With so much many spent and such notoriety I doubt Maine officials are going to pass on prosecuting the case. It takes a long time and a lot of minds collaborating similar to the statement published here promoting prosecution. Preparing the case with a reasonable shot at a conviction takes an enormous amount of work equal to the investigation phase.

      Considering what is at stake for Ayla's rights, her families rights and Justin and his families rights I don't think any harm was done by what might appear to be a small circus designed to garner attention for the case and maintain enthusiam for prosecution among Ayla's small army of supporters. I feel sympathy and deep respect for those who held out hope for a live Ayla. Respect for her eternal spirit and immortal soul requires a reasonable person to let go of the human Ayla and embrace her by letting her into your heart. Then the long grinding road towards justice shall be easier to endure.

      I think that's what the evidence release was all about. Granting Ayla's eternal spirit and immortal soul a degree of peace so she isn't in the afterlife wishing she could bring peace to others. The road to justice is long and no particular outcome is guaranteed.

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    7. Jazzie-what I know is that the AG's office will not move to prosecute at this time. They have seen the evidence...all of it. They have the forensic reports that we do not have. They have the cell pings, phone records, witness statements, and all those other things that none of us have seen. With the totality of the evidence at their disposal, they are not confident that they can secure a conviction with what they have at this time. You ask why I think this case would be lost at trial? It's simply because the people who will be trying it have seen the holes in the case, they know where the case is weak, they know what evidence is shaky, they know what will hold up and what won't, and I'm inclined to believe them.

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    8. Expanding on this, the prosecution will need to present a case answering the basic questions of who, what, when, where, why, and how. What are the answers?
      Who...Justin? Courtney? Elisha? Two of them? All three of them?
      What...Murder? Accidental death? Where is the body?
      When...Sometime on the night of the 16th, morning of the 17th?
      Where...In the basement? In Justin's vehicle?
      Why...Neglect? Life insurance? Anger?
      How...Blunt force trauma? Projectile vomiting due to internal injuries? From what? Weapons? Ingestion of something?

      It's really no wonder to me that they haven't pressed charges. I can't see where any of these questions can be answered with any degree of certainty. Try building a theory of the crime based on what they have. We've been doing it on these blogs for almost two years and have yet to reach a consensus.

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    9. ANON@8:04
      I approach AYLA's case simply. Children die at the hands of their father/mother's boyfriend all the time. Unfortunately in most child murder cases, there is no mystery or depth. Confusion only happens when the mind refuses to grasp reality.

      The reality is: "I learned that not all fathers treasure their daughters, that not all mothers protect, and that to some people, a baby isn’t a precious gift. I’ve learned that cycles are difficult to break, that some people don’t care at all that they hurt other people, and that a lot of people are in so much pain."
      http://www.tdcaa.com/node/6097

      I believe there is an abundance of evidence that LE has not released. Despite the fact that I think AYLA's case can be easily defined/solved/brought to trial successfully, I have reservations about how quickly justice will be served in the State of Maine in regards to its level of corruption:

      http://www.stateintegrity.org/maine

      You state: "You ask why I think this case would be lost at trial? It's simply because the people who will be trying it have seen the holes in the case, they know where the case is weak, they know what evidence is shaky, they know what will hold up and what won't, and I'm inclined to believe them."

      Makes me go hmmmmm. Maybe the State needs to choose the right prosecutor to stand up for this level of challenge. We are talking about Justice for a toddler, an innocent child, still missing, and "We think it is highly unlikely Ayla Reynolds will be found alive,” Maine Department of Public Safety Spokesman Stephen McCausland said at a Thursday afternoon press conference. “Nothing points in that direction.”
      http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/31/news/mid-maine/police-highly-unlikely-ayla-reynolds-will-be-found-alive/

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    10. ANON @8:21
      You state: "Try building a theory of the crime based on what they have. We've been doing it on these blogs for almost two years and have yet to reach a consensus."
      Who are "they"? ... LE, Prosecutors, Defense Lawyers, people who have knowledge of what happened to Ayla Reynolds?
      and "what do they have"?... I do not know. But I believe LE has an abundance of evidence.
      Who are "we"... Blog Admins, Blog Posters, Defense Lawyers, LE, Prosecutors, people who want justice for Ayla?

      "Try building a theory of the crime based on what they have."
      Makes me go hmmmm.

      http://aylatheories.wordpress.com/tag/ayla-reynolds/

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    11. You say hmmm a lot

      I don't see any complete theories at that link you provided. Was I supposed to?

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    12. When an anon stated : "Try building a theory of the crime based on what they have."
      it reminded me of that blog site "AylaTheories" and the 5 "W's" just mentioned here: http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2013/09/where-are-we-now-in-regards-to-justice.html?m=1
      "Who...Justin? Courtney? Elisha? Two of them? All three of them?
      What...Murder? Accidental death? Where is the body?
      When...Sometime on the night of the 16th, morning of the 17th?
      Where...In the basement? In Justin's vehicle?
      Why...Neglect? Life insurance? Anger?"

      That's all. Sounded familiar.
      I went back to this site on different occasions to see if anyone posted their theories but alas no one did.

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    13. How can we build a theory based on what "they" have?
      How do we know what "they" have?
      Isn't that "their" job?

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    14. Yes, Jazzie. That's my whole point. It is their job. How about we trust them to do it?

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  15. Oh, I don't know, the press was there and more people heard about Ayla. And phoebe showed who she really is so I guess some things were done today.

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  16. You know a person should never speak out in anger, you would think I would lean that eventually. I let emotions get the best of me today and I owe all an apology for that. Jeff most of all because he can't be every place at once or all things to all people. What he set up and meant to be positive in every way was a wonderful idea. People and tempers caused it to become partly negative and subtract from what it should have been for Ayla. I had a part in that Ayla and I am sorry I let you down please forgive me. Dana B

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    1. Dana

      A missing baby case is very frustrating and emotional, for everyone.
      Add the mix of the ...internet- -blogging world, with all the different opinions, it can be draining emotionally.
      We all can become upset and say something that we later regret. (me included).
      I think you are a caring, compassionate person Dana. Your care and concern for Ayla is very evident.

      You have been an advid supporter of Ayla for a long time. You have Your devotion to bringing awareness to and about Ayla is above and beyond.
      I don't feel you have let Ayla down at all.
      A big smile and pat on the back to you my friend.

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  17. Dana, I have a hard time understanding your meaning a lot of the time. I think you care for Ayla but I don't follow what you are trying to do here most of the time. Do you know some of these people personally? You seem very angry at Jeff most of the time and I don't understand why.

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  18. "No one has been eliminated as a suspect," McCausland told CNN. Police have been careful not to name anyone a suspect and have warned against speculation.

    The investigation remains "full and active" and more searches are expected, McCausland said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/13/justice/maine-missing-toddler-ayla-reynolds/index.html

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    1. Police eliminate suspects all the time, so after two years why won't they officially say she's not one?? Something smells fishy

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    2. Police eliminate suspects all the time, so after two years why won't they officially say she's not one?? Something smells fishy

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  19. anonymous from maineSeptember 26, 2013 at 5:32 AM

    I said it before and I'll keep saying it every time it gets deleted....something is very fishy about this whole thing. And after the fiasco at the courthouse yesterday, having watched the videos of the scene there I'm even more convinced that while trista may not know exactly where Aylas body is, I think she knows a helluva lot more then she has let on. I wouldn't be surprised to hear she was at the dipietro home on the night Ayla was hurt.

    There are way to many inconsistencies coming from the Reynolds. Maybe if Jeff or whoever deleted all the comments last night can't handle the heat they should stay out of the kitchen. If this is how this blog is gonna be run now then I'll be going along with everyone else, leaving the bullshit to the experienced bullhshitters

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    1. Inconsistencies coming from the Rynolds? And nothing coming at all from the DiPietros. Yeah, makes sense.

      Ayla is missing, her blood is in their house, LE says they are lying about what happened...and the Reynolds have inconsistancies!

      Par for the course. It's Wonderland, here, folks. Where's the White Rabbit and Alice?

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  20. anonymous from maineSeptember 26, 2013 at 5:35 AM

    I said it before and I'll keep saying it every time it gets deleted....something is very fishy about this whole thing. And after the fiasco at the courthouse yesterday, having watched the videos of the scene there I'm even more convinced that while trista may not know exactly where Aylas body is, I think she knows a helluva lot more then she has let on. I wouldn't be surprised to hear she was at the dipietro home on the night Ayla was hurt.

    There are way to many inconsistencies coming from the Reynolds. Maybe if Jeff or whoever deleted all the comments last night can't handle the heat they should stay out of the kitchen. If this is how this blog is gonna be run now then I'll be going along with everyone else, leaving the bullshit to the experienced bullhshitters

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    1. Anon from Maine-Would you leave your Grandchild in the care of the Dipetro's for a few days?? Seriously?? All you Justin supporters-THINK this option over very carefully!

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    2. I hope the people who have invested all their credulity in the DiPietros' tale of an abduction don't get smacked into senselesness when someone in that house, or out of it now, decides to cave and tell all.

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    3. anonymous from maineSeptember 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

      Don't put words in my mouth! I never said dipietros aren't guilty of something. My point, that you chose to ignore, was that I don't believe that's Trista is as innocent as she pretends to be. Nothing more nothing less!

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    4. anonymous from maineSeptember 26, 2013 at 11:46 AM

      Don't put words in my mouth! I never said dipietros aren't guilty of something. My point, that you chose to ignore, was that I don't believe that's Trista is as innocent as she pretends to be. Nothing more nothing less!

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    5. Would you leave your child with Trista? I wouldn't. DHHS was ready to take her children away from her, permanently. Why?

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    6. I think some forget that Ayla disappeared FROM JUSTIN'S CARE, not Trista's. It was Phoebe's house that was covered in Ayla's blood.

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  21. What I want to know is where the post and all the comments went.....and why?

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  22. Ohhh Puleeeeeze. Stop with all the Drama. You women aren't going anywhere! You'll continue stirring the pot under anon!

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    1. look who's talking anon 7:56am.....stir away dearie.....

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  23. And Dana B., stop with all the melodrama!

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  24. I think most everybody is right back on track...nothing has changed for most here. The DiPietro supporters are in full swing. The people who cannot let go of a living Ayla, in spite of the report of blood evidence in photos, are mostly back on their well-worn track to feel better.

    And the people who believe an arrest and trial for Justin is the only answer for justice are more determined than ever that police are being hampered by a DA who is afraid of losing a case .

    But, in today's real world of TV, the public has seen what Phoebe and her son are all about. No surprised about him; we suspected that he's a controlled hot wire ready to spiral off at anytine. But Phoebe! What a revelation! She is not that fluttering, indecisive. hapless creature we saw on CNN . Analogies to Ma Barker do come up now and then since her appearance with Trista.

    This woman has chutspah! She knows everybody is aware of the pictures which show Ayla's blood all over her house. She knows they know she was shown the same things as Trista, and she still has the effrontery to say to Trista " Where is she, Trista?", echoing Elisha's words to Trista that first day at the Waterviller police station.

    It's working... as some of the same old suspicions of Trista are again being unleashed, here. But Phoebe herself cannot hide anymore; she is Big Mama in control! She, like Cindy Anthony, has a plan! It may need some tweaking since Trista had the guts to confront her, and expose her, but Phoebe will not let her son go down without a fight, even if she has to throw someone else under the bus. Not Trista. How about Courtney?

    If Trista was holding out any hope that Justin is capable of having a heart, she now knows for sure, he is unpenetrable. All parts of him are thiick. And he is so smug.And a coward.These people will never tell the truth.They know that Ayla's body is never going to be found. No sloppy disposals like Casey Anthony goofed up.

    Phoebe doesn't addresss the blood in her house; she points to Trista and says, "Well, SHE isn't cleared!" Such a child's game when one is caught eating a forbidden cookie, and immediately points to their sibling and says, "Well, she gave it to me!"

    Phoebe you are not good at deflection, but I'm glad we got to see you are one tough old bird. I hope that Ayla didn't see this side of you. My gosh, how scary would that have been! Can't you just see the pretty wide blue eyes tearing up at the sound of that voice? And, as Phoebe herself described it, a frightened Ayla being told "No", brought on Ayla's pretty little mouth trembling.

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    1. It's funny how people can see the same thing, and interpret it differently.

      What I saw from Phoebe was genuine anger. Not some sing-song, pre rehearsed, hey camera's follow me confrontation, but the real deal.

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    2. No kidding. Phoebe is the real deal! And she is scary. And she makes no sense. Telling Trista to believe that Ayla is alive and then in the same sentence saying "tell us where she is." What does that mean? Why does Phoebe think Trista shoud believe Ayla is alive? "Believe Ayla is alive" and then she accuses Trista, "Tell us where she is."

      Phoebe hid thatbaby. Justin doesn't have the balls to do it. And couldn't be trusted to do it. He depends on Mommy for all his dirty work. Look at him running away today and leaving his mother behind. Classic Justin. "Justin first. Women and children, over the side!"

      Makes no sense unless

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    3. I guess she's disgusted that a mother would be going around trying to convince the world that her daughter is dead?

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    4. Trista isn't trying to convince anyone who doesn't believe Ayla is dead that Ayla is dead. She's spreading a truth told to her by police, one that convinced her Ayla is dead (even tho she still struggles with it) and asking for public helping in bringing her baby home for a proper funeral.

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  25. To sum up what my issue was with yesterday - is that it was to be and could have been an awesome opportunity to again raise awareness for Ayla Reynolds/Justice for Ayla.

    Yesterday could have very well begun true justice for Ayla.

    Case in point: did you hear anything about Trista's PC???

    No. Although we all heard about the near brawl outside the court house.

    Yesterday will be remembered for people screaming, running down the street, chasing others down.

    Not trying to get justice for Ayla.

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    1. I heard that there was a PC. I don't know how brief, or if it was in the park as planned. It got lost in the drama.

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    2. Stop already, Chicken. She gave a press conference. Why don't you all wait before jumping to conclusions?

      So Ayla was not helped, huh? In what ways was she not helped?
      People are more aware of Ayla again than before. I would suggest. people have a tendency to remember dramatic encounters. Ayla's name was mentioned and people will remember her mother trying to get some answers from people who have them..

      If anybody's all bent for leather against her mother trying to get some answers, what the hell do you suggest she do? Wait patiently while the case and the evidence dries up?

      That's what happens in cases like these, evidence is lost, witnesses die, DNA goes missing, records are deleted.

      You are expecting justice twenty years down the road? Or like Phoebe do you hope that it will never come? She knows, probably from insiders in DHHS, that the AG will never proceed with prosecution without a body.

      Phoebe can afford to point fingers at someone else and not answer "the questions" she said police are not asking her and her son. ( She best be careful. These LE people want to get her son and she is egging them on with her lies.)

      Back to you who are so disappointed in Trista's performance. You'd do so much better in the same situation. You'd never confront the people with Ayla's blood in their house; you'd never make a spectacle of yourself pleadig for information before cameras.! You make your wishes knows in a private, more refined and thoughtful manner without the circus. Right. I believe it.

      Unlike Trista, I probably would not have used any of her restraint. By this time,. I would have carried a crowbar and shown Phoebe and Justin it's finer qualities for removing smirks, and prying open closed mouths.

      And with all the expressed disappointment that Trista failed Ayla, it is still Trista is "suspicious". It is she who is "fishy". It is she who is always out of line!

      It is alway she who is the mother of a missing, probably dead, baby. A mother who is getting no answers from the cowardly and heartless people with the knowledge. She has some rights to do it her way.

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    3. "Stop already, Chicken. She gave a press conference. Why don't you all wait before jumping to conclusions?"

      Yes she did. How much did you here about it?
      How much of it was played on news video's?
      Did you learn anything from the Press conference?

      ChickenLittle is right, yesterday won't be remembered for any press conference.

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    4. Looks like I hit a nerve.

      If you follow this blog you know I'm not a "Trista basher", at all.

      If I ran to Phoebe I'd probably want to kick her butt - at the least.

      Justin - I won't even go there.

      I can't blame Trista for being beyond furious! I was mad just watching the videos.

      However, as I said earlier, yesterday could have been a productive day in working towards Justice for Ayla. Instead, it was awful. No one remembered anything about the PC. How many videos of everyone arguing were there? A lot.

      I have always defended Trista. Always. But this did make me feel sad. Ayla deserves better than a televised fight. I would say she needs people to stay the course for her justice. No matter how hard.

      It might be tough to hear - but it's the truth. Plain & simple.

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    5. I can vouch for that, the stuff you have personally done, Chicken Little, for Trista transcends this blog as well as what you have done for Ayla. You have a huge heart and never once have you participated in any bashing towards either side and more should follow in your footsteps. In my opinion, everything you have said regarding yesterday is on point. Sometimes the truth is just hard for some to hear

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  26. Here is my question...blood was found on DiPietro's mattress according to Trista. Also according to Trista (see Stand By Your Man on this blog) her blood was found on the sheet covering the bed. So, did Justin cover up the blood on the bed by using a bloody sheet from his house in Portland? Wouldn't the stain on the mattress still have been wet, and wouldn't it have soaked through to sheet above it? Or was it a dried stain, meaning it had been there awhile?

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    1. The problem I have is I'm not certain that everything Trista revealed is accurate.
      The blood on the bed is suppose to be fist size and contain saliva or vomit.
      , Wouldn't forensic tech's be able to tell the difference between saliva and vomit? I'm almost 100 % sure they would.
      Remembering that this is suppose to be visible,, Why clean up other blood with a sheet, and not the blood and or vomit on the bed?
      A bed you were suppose to be sleeping in?

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    2. Looking At The FactsSeptember 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      Also in the Stand By Your Man post posted by Wordman it says this
      But now investigators have verified to Trista that her blood was identified on Justin’s sheets that he travelled with from Portland.

      Would they not have also verified Ayla's blood n the sheet then also and who sleeps on bloody sheets? This makes no sense.

      Here is another that I have a problem with
      “There was a tote that had blood on it and in it, and then inside of that tote there was a white sheet that was wrapped up with all kinds of blood spots on it, like someone could have wrapped Ayla’s body in it.
      http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/09/23/baby-ayla-reynolds-missing-new-evidence-murder?hpt=hln10_2
      compared to what was written on this blog
      Ayla's blood splatter was found on a plastic blue tote in the basement and a sheet that was found inside had Ayla's blood stains on it. MSP said that it had been used to cleanup Ayla’s blood.

      So which is it? A sheet with blood spots that Ayla may have been wrapped up in or a sheet MSP confirmed was used to clean up blood?

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    3. Anon 1...you will have to wait to have all your many questions answered. Maybe in a court of law; maybe not ever.

      What are you going to do about the fact that there was blood in diffeent places and in the SUV. Never mind the sheet in the tote right this minute. . For now, do you have any suspicions that harm came to Ayla in that house? You seem so reluctant to address the major issues and you concentrate on many details.

      What do you think happened to Ayla, if her blood is in that house in different quantities and all over the house? And in the car? And some exposed by luminol.

      With at least some blood apparent, she disappeared without a trace, What do you think happened to her? That's a major issue.
      Was she hurt on an earlier day, month, and survived, only to disappear soon after on the 16th?

      What is your gut instinct or feminine intuition? Why do you think some blood was cleaned-up and showing with luminol, but some drops were visible? Heidi saw them. Pin-headed size..

      I think many things can be explained by a very hasty clean-up , perhaos by just one person who had no help in that chore and was in a mighty panic. That person had to get it done by a certain time before others arrived at the house. So I can see a hasty job producing ill effects.I think a hasty clean-up explains a lot of the details. And you?

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    4. "What is your gut instinct or feminine intuition?"

      ....I've expressed many times what my intuition is. I've always felt that Ayla is alive.
      I've always questioned that. I have to do that more than ever now, with the developments in the last week or so.

      I'm still trying to come to terms with and about the evidence that has been released. I have to process that. The problem is, I don't know for suure how accurate all that evidence is.

      I've never been one to jump to conclusions and make up scenarios about what might have happened. Nor about who is quilty of what.

      .

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    5. "So which is it? A sheet with blood spots that Ayla may have been wrapped up in or a sheet MSP confirmed was used to clean up blood?"

      I really don't know the answer to your question, but perhaps the sheet was utilized for both purposes? That is just a thought.

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  27. i'm surprised phoebe didn't wear her furry boots to court. what an ugly snaggled tooth creature she is, an i think we caught her on a good day. if anyone knows where Ayla is, it's phoebe.

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    1. I do agree with you. I think Phoebe did the disposal. I'd sure like to know more about Phoebe's "date" for the evening of the 16th. When did it begin; when did it end? Did LE verify her alibi and did they investigate the "date"? Could the "date' have helped Phoebe dispose of the body? Of course, it's not too wise to let too many in on the caper. Folks can turn on other folks. Courtney and Justin were said to be a long-time couple. They were not before Ayla disappeared and they were not afterwards.

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  28. askingforaylareynolds.blogspot.com

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  29. If anyone knows where Ayla is, it's Jeff.

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    1. I think you misspelled the name. It's J-U-S-T-I-N.

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    2. "If anyone knows where Ayla is, it's Jeff."

      Well, hi there, GRP! Glad you didn't abandon the Justin for President campaign! I think it's true love! He's got another GF with a child, we hear. You may have to work fast.

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  30. I just remembered something...Lance asked Bob Vear how to clean blood at Christmas, right? So he must have known what a piss poor job Justin did cleaning up. After the DiPietro's were let back in, they cleaned up all the blood, except the tiny drops they circled and showed Heidi. Poor Heidi, she must feel like such a dupe. She let these people into her house, near daycare kids.

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  31. I really think Bill says it best

    http://www.kjonline.com/news/Ayla-case-reminiscent-of-Knowles-trial.html

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    1. WOW, Just read it, really good article!

      Thanks for the link.

      signed:getrealpeople

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    2. "Justice delayed, however painful, is better than no justice at all."
      http://www.kjonline.com/news/Ayla-case-reminiscent-of-Knowles-trial.html
      but sometimes
      Justice delayed can become justice denied. Ayla's case to me seems more reminiscent of the Aisha Dickson case:
      http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/30/living/blogs-and-columns-living/common-sense-not-enough-to-crack-ayla-reynolds-case/

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    3. That's a sad reality Jazzie. Even with the broken body of that baby in hand, to this day there is no justice. Modern forensics might be spectacular in what it can reveal, but with multiple suspects and uncooperative witnesses, what is the state to do? Justice is also not served by trying and convicting the innocent. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a righteous concept we have set ourselves up to uphold.

      ~Scout

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  32. Wow. Bill Nemitz, a columnist, not a reporter, seems to have got more out of Stokes than any reporter has to date. And I think he expresses the concerns of many as he lays out what is at stake: prosecuting the wrong person can lead to the right person never being prosecuted; 'beyond a reasonable doubt' can be hard to prove with a Maine jury; double jeopardy is an issue that can't be ignored; and jumping on charges that result in a menial sentence at the expense of charges and a sentence based on the full story is a perversion of justice in its own right.

    I am not familiar with the Knowles case - Nemitz has been around longer than I have. As described, it stands as an example of what can go wrong in the search for justice in a similar case.

    I will continue to be patient. It's all I can do.

    ~Scout

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    1. I was put off by the analogy to the Knowles case. The fact that the prosecution of the dad fell apart does not make the mom guilty. She may have been, but it's also possible the prosecutor did a bad job, the evidence wasn't so great, the jury was not so attentive. If he is going to say the mom should have been prosecuted because the dad got off, he ought to have spelled out what evidence if any there was that the mom was guilty. I get that she was the only other person there, but the prosecutor's failure to prove a case against the dad does not necessarily mean she is guilty as this reporter implied. I do agree there was some thought provoking stuff in that article though especially as to prosecuting the suspect for a minor charge arising out of the same incident. But that doesn't mean they couldn't charge one of the others for obstruction of justice. If Elisha was facing some serious jail time, because she covered up for her brother, (assuming she did), then I imagine she might not think continuing the coverup was such a hot idea.

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    2. If you were put of read the original article from 1982

      http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1928&dat=19820115&id=_XggAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iGcFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2792,2294661

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    3. Well, anon, Bill Nemitz is a columnist, not a reporter. That we must keep in mind. A columnist relates facts along with anecdotes and snarky opinion. It is what it is. But I hear where you're coming from.

      As for Elisha or anyone else facing possible charges and jail time for covering up, they too get the option of a jury trial. They may think that if the state can't (isn't confident enough to try to) prove how the crime happened and who did it, how can they prove that there was a coverup and who did that? I imagine anyone involved in a coverup would think continuing to stonewall is a pretty good idea right now. I think until the State is faced with a statute of limitations on those potential charges (3 years I believe) they will not move to indict on them until just before that SOL is up.

      I wonder exactly what "justice" would be for Trista and her family and even the concerned public would be?

      A child endangerment conviction with a sentence of a year with all but 30 days suspended?
      A child neglect conviction with a sentence of two years with all but 6 months suspended?

      You get where I'm going. If Elisha or Courtney or anyone else wants to plea deal, they'll have to admit to the crime they're pleading to in a court of law and likely agree to cooperate with the prosecution in the greater case in order to get the deal. On the other hand, they can essentially sit out the proceedings and leave it in the hands of the judge or jury to convict based on State's evidence presented beyond a reasonable doubt...and then a judge to sentence based on "sentencing guidelines" for first time offenders.

      While my patience is being tested, I'm well prepared for a long wait for real justice.

      ~Scout

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    4. The Nemitz analogy of Ayla Reynolds case to Knowles case is not the best. Is there evidence that Trista was there at the scene of the crime "falling down drunk" with Justin? I know MSP has been getting a huge bad rap in the last couple of days, not only from the maternal family but from blog admins/posters for not doing enough to bring justice for AYLA. But they were the ones who went slogging/searching/diving for her in the middle of a Maine winter (multiple times). I tend to think they didn't drop the ball. I'm thinking that for whatever reason Maine prosecutors aren't moving forward. There might be a contentious relationship between MSP and AG/Prosecutors. Just guessing. Although I come from the prosecutor happy state of CT (They'll prosecute a rock if it tumbled the wrong way on I-91) LOL. No doubt about it though, I could cite some examples of when I think prosecutors dropped the ball here when LE wanted to press charges.

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    5. I don't think LE bungled this investigation either but I do think mistakes may have been made early on although they might not have, I have no clue as to what LE has or doesn't have. I do know that LE expressed concerns about the evidence release and double jeopardy. I took that to mean if LE proceeded with charges there is a chance that Justin or whomever harmed Ayla could walk free and not be recharged. Is it because the case isn't solid enough without a body or because the prosecutor doesn't feel confident bringing this case to court and winning? I think likely because there are so many variables, so many home in the house, no one talking and at this point apparently not enough direct evidence that leads to the perpetrator or perpetrators. I do know that last year it was speculated that they didn't want the interim DA to prosecute due to lack of experience but that shouldn't be an issue any longer as the position has been filled. Too many questions and not enough answers

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    6. I don't think they were making that reference. They had the body in the Knowles case and the man got off because they didn't have a strong case against him. The mother was very helpful with the police but they had witnesses that they were both fallen down drunk. so they couldn't beyond a reasonable doubt prove there case against the stepfather. With Justin they have 2 other people that were there and without any of them talking they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt Justin did it. Plus they have no body.

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    7. I agree Dana.
      It was my impression that Nemitz was comparing these 2 cases to show what can happen when there is not enough evidence to prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.

      I understand Trista is frustrated. I understand she would like answers.
      What I don't understand is why she would want to push for prosecution by a prosecutor who is telling them that they don't have the evidence to get a conviction.

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    8. I don't either. I not saying this is the reason only a possibility. Maybe she really thinks it was an accident and a lesser charge would be more appropriate I don't know. The other thing some punishment is better than none. Maybe after which where she is hidden will be leaked.

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    9. Tori: "Is it because the case isn't solid enough without a body or because the prosecutor doesn't feel confident bringing this case to court and winning?"

      I think LE has enough DNA/forensic evidence to bring Ayla's case forward. "Think" being the operative word here. Like you stated, we do not know what evidence LE has compiled. The State needs to assign a more confident, determined prosecutor if they feel there is sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed and to proceed without a victim's body. It can be done. It has been done, even before advanced DNA forensics: The famous Wood Chipper Dude from CT - Richard Crafts. Start reading around Chapter 8.
      The prosecution, led by State Attorney Walter Flanagan did indeed get Justice for Helle Crafts, but it wasn't easy... "On July 15, 1988, after 100 witnesses had testified and 650 exhibits were presented in an epic 53 day trial, a mistrial had to be declared. ... Prosecutors were well aware that a conviction in any criminal case, no matter how persuasive the evidence may be, is never guaranteed. ...When the case finally went to the jury on November 20, it took only eight hours to reach a unanimous verdict. Crafts was found guilty of murder beyond any question. Eleven men and one woman felt the evidence easily supported a guilty verdict. "Richard Crafts could not have asked for a more fair jury," said one juror. "It's corny, but the system works." As usual, Crafts showed no emotion when the verdict was announced. "The totality of the evidence was overwhelming," another juror told the Danbury News-Times. The verdict was announced on November 21, 1989, almost three years to the day when Helle was murdered. In January 1990, Richard Crafts, unrepentant and defiant as always, received a sentence of 99 years in state prison."
      http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/family/woodchipper_murder/index.html

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    10. The prosecutor went to trial, no body, in a Death Penalty State (CT repealed DP just recently), suffered one mistrial and still got a conviction. Wonder where they breed these types of prosecutors.

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  33. What freaks me out the most is that someone with knowledge of what happened to Ayla will not speak up for her. Who remains silent and does not speak out for a defenseless, innocent child?

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    1. I think they could prosecute without a body but which one out of the 3? Justin because he is a man,or Courtney because she could have been jealous of Trista, or Elisha because she thought Alya was taking Gabby's place?

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