Tuesday, August 27, 2013

Just A Theory...By Oaklandrez


I have read many things over the past year and a half about Ayla Reynolds.  There are facts, theories, speculation, and downright lies all over the internet involving this case.  Some people believe Ayla is alive and well somewhere, while others believe Ayla’s own family killed her, whether by accident or on purpose, and have disposed of Ayla as if she were garbage.  Many hurtful accusations and speculation have been leveled against both sides of Ayla’s family.
Personally, I believe that there was a kidnapping of sorts.  My theory involves both parents of this beautiful little girl.  I know neither side of the family personally, nor do I know any extension of the families, (i.e. Heidi, Angela, Jeff, ToriJohn P, etc), so I have no stake in the outcome of this case.  My theory takes all “evidence” into account and, I feel, at the very least, is a possibility.  The ID channel documentaries show that anything is possible in disappearances, murders, etc.
I believe that on the night of December 17, 2011, Ayla Reynolds was removed from her Grandmother’s home by her own family.  I believe that kadoe’s friend/relative’s account of having seen someone in the Dipietro’s neighborhood early that morning happened and was the exchange of Ayla.  I believe that Trista had a rendezvous with Justin at some point (possibly the 15th or 16thwhere the 2 of them fought about custody of Ayla after a sexual encounter (which left her DNA/blood on Justin’s sheets). I feel this fight is what precipitated Ayla’s“disappearance”.
I believe that a member or a couple of members of Justin’s or Trista’s family (maybe even a member of each side) either witnessed or was informed of the fight between Trista and Justin and decided to take matters into their own hands. A plot was hatched to remove Ayla from these 2 destructive parents and give her to someone that could take proper care of her without all the drama and fighting.
I believe that possibly Elisha and Phoebe or Phoebe and a member of Trista’s family arranged for a new “family” for Ayla. I think this is where kadoe’s story comes into play. The witness stated a person they thought was Phoebe met with a group of people and handed over a very much alive child very early on the morning of Ayla’s disappearance. I feel as though it may have been done to give Ayla the best, as these family members knew that neither Trista nor Justin had Ayla’s best interest at heart and these family members couldn’t, for whatever reason, take care of Ayla themselves.
I believe the luminol showed “cleanup” of a fecal accident, a pee accident or a puke accident. There were rumored to be 4 small dots of blood shown in a photo, those could have been a small cut.  The cleanup of feces, pee or puke accident would show DNA and glow withluminol if cleaned with bleach and an accident with something like that would seem alarming if thought to be blood.
I think this theory is plausible. It explains why Justin made the comment “you aren’t her parent”. I believe this is possible, maybe not probable, but definitely possible.

39 comments:

  1. Very good post oaklandrez, and very thought provoking.Like you say it is a possibility.

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  2. Thanks for your post Oak.

    As you say anything is possible. Your theory is just as possible as many others. I'm not ruling it out as of yet.

    Your post did remind me of something.
    Trista has always been emphatic (and consistent) that Justin did not know she filed the P.R.& R papers. That may or may not mean anything. However it stands out to me for some reason.

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    1. Justin could have found out, unbeknownst to Trista. It is possible. Doesn't Phoebe have a friend/relative by marriage working at DHHS? Also, Waterville is fairly small. Word may have reached Justin through any number of means on the gossip trail.

      I personally don't think Trista filing for PR&R has anything to do with Ayla's disappearance, but Justin or Phoebe through connections could certainly found out.

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    2. I'm not saying that Justin didn't know or find out.
      Trista is the one who was adamant that he didn't know about it.

      Phoebe may have a friend or relative in DHHS, I'm not sure.
      The papers were filed on 12/15. I don't see why DHHS would even know anything about them at that time. They weren't even signed until the 19th. Waterville is a small town, I don't think that's where the court house is.

      I don't necessarily believe it had anything to do with Ayla's disappearance either.

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  3. Excellent post, Oak!

    "I believe that kadoe’s friend/relative’s account of having seen someone in the Dipietro’s neighborhood early that morning happened..."

    I, too, think this is possible. Unless, of course, Phoebe has an air-tight alibi that accounts for her whereabouts at that hour of the morning. Kadoe is pretty adamant that the witness saw Phoebe DiPietro.

    Would Phoebe allow the state of Maine to rack up $500K to search for her missing granddaughter if she knew all along that Ayla was safe?

    I don't know.



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    1. I think she would have to, unless she wanted to go to jail and face prosecution.

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    2. If Phoebe is involved in a gigantic hoax, she has a bit of trouble in store for her if Ayla is found and a conspiracy is unraveled. I would think that Phoebe would not be alone in facing strict punishment if there was a conspiracy to give Ayla away. I think if this theory is at all plausible Phoebe would have to help help in the plan and from someone who is involved daily with children and could hide Ayla among the other other toddlers until a suitable home could be found.

      Unless, the plot to give Ayla away was planned early on, say immediately after Justin was targeted for child support. In which case, were the prospective adoptive parents thoroughly screened?

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  4. anonymous from maineAugust 27, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    I think that's a theory that makes the most sense. Great job oaklandrez!

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  5. Oak! Thoughty post. However, Pee,and Fecal matter do not have DNA. Saliva does contain DNA, but in the other cases, the acid destroys the DNA. I'm no scientist but this is what I understand. I would think Puke might contain DNA because of the saliva in it. But I'd have to look it up to see if the puke is too caustic to preserve the DNA in the saliva.

    I agree we don't have any idea of how much blood was found; it could have been from a nosebleed or a cut foot. The family has not recalled, at least publicly, any accidents where Ayla shed blood.

    Justin said it was true that Ayla's blood was found in his house, but that "Ayla did not come to her demise down in my house." He did not add that Ayla cut her foot, or that she cut her lip in a fall. Nothing like that. Heidi, I believe said that Ayla cut her foot. Or was that Aunt Selena who was estranged from the family? I cannot recall. Someone outside Phoebe and the ones in the house gave out that info.

    However, it appears to me that these good samaritans who spirited Ayla away to a family that would treat her right, have put themselves on the line, if someone talks in the future...to get themselves some leverage in a criminal case... how much can one count on everybody in a conspiracy remaining mum? That is "trading in" that info up the line if they get into legal trouble, themselves?

    And to be direct, how many people in either family really cared that much about Ayla to put their future on the line in a criminal conspiracy?

    Few in the DiPietro family had even met Ayla! Aunt Selena had never met Ayla. Had Heidi? I take it some of Justin's friends baby sat Ayla for him, but would they join in a conspiracy to save Ayla from Justin?

    And in Trista's family, the members seem distraut about her absence initally especially Ayla's grandfather who showed much intensity of feeling. But then, the Reynolds family appear to be up and down on the worry scale about her.

    That's just my impression of the two families. I could be wrong and Phoebe is the engineering giant who saw that Ayla needed to be with folks who could take care of her properly. Phoebe doesn't appear to me to be one that could carry off such a grandiouse plan involving, I assume, many witnesses. Heidi though, I think, would have many contacts and could easily fill the role as administrator of a scheme to "save" Ayla. But then, she is a friend of Justin's, too, and thinks the world of him. Would she place Ayla's welfare above that friendship? I don't know her.

    As to Kadoe's relative and what he saw. The story has been tweaked several ties and more info added with each tweaking. I'm not saying I don't believe that the relative saw something...but I have to be convinced that LE didn't investigate this as one of their 1200 and some tips. One of the investigators said that they investigated the tip and, "The story went nowhere."

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    1. As with any theory, there are pieces that don't fit which is why LE has not named a person of interest or arrested anyone or even changed the case status to homicide and not a missing child case with possible foul play.

      As far as Kadoe's account from an eyewitness, in my experience, Kadoe's account never changed, what changed was people started to mesh 2 different accounts by two different people together into one and then started discussing it which turned into something like the game of telephone.

      I actually have spoken with Kadoe and have a post coming up with that scenario and why people have not been able to discount it as others have.

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    2. Anon 5:33,

      In Oak's theory he said that he believed that cleaned up fecal matter or pee, or puke reacted with the luminol.
      That can happen. Luminol can react to bleach, used to clean an area. I think it also reacts to fecal matter.
      Also Fecal matter, unrine, and vomit MAY contain DNA. DNA is really only contained in cells in the body. So if those cells (even skin cells) are present or passed in the fecal matter, urine, or vomit, then DNA can be found in them.
      How likely this is what happened in Ayla's case I don't know.


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    3. Thanks Anon 1. I was just going to post about cells (which contain DNA) being present in feces, urine, and vomit. If vomit is to caustic for cells to be survive, your stomach (made of cells) would never survive! Cells are sloughed in all these incidences.

      Also, Ayla's mother spoke how many times? The first, and maybe only, was when she said DHHS never liked her family. (I can't remember if she said anything else.) I do remember her standing in a doorway to the hall during an interview with Trista by the media. I always thought that was odd, that she wasn't sitting next to her daughter on the sofa.

      signed:getrealpeople

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    4. "As with any theory, there are pieces that don't fit which is why LE has not named a person of interest or arrested anyone or even changed the case status to homicide and not a missing child case with possible foul play."

      Do you really believe that LE doesn't know what happened and who done it? They know, but the AG won't act without a body.

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    5. Oaklandrez,

      It just occurred to me that in my comment I referred to you as he. I'm sorry, I should have said he/she.

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    6. Anon 1, thanks....and it is she..

      Anon 10:39
      I personally believe that MSP does NOT know everything...I believe that the DO know more than we all do. I believe that it has nothing to do with a body....

      Oaklandrez

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  6. His own family takes away his daughter and lets the whole world think of him as a murderer, while risking going to jail themselves for kidnapping? A federal crime? I don't think so. Nice try though, and very well thought out.

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    1. Honestly Grace yeah I do think that someone would/could do such a thing, it's just as possible as your theory that Justin and Trista worked together to "get rid" of Ayla...whatever has happened to cause Ayla to disappear is huge and according to Steve McCausland is "far reaching". Do I think I have it nailed with my theory, No, but I do think it is something at least somewhat close....I can say from experience people can do some pretty fucked up things and not a single person that knew them would have ever guessed what really happened...I went to high school, sat right next to, and conversed extensively, with a girl that had a year before killed her step father and buried him in the back yard and collected and cashed his disability checks, for a YEAR and nobody had a clue...that just goes to show people only show you what they want you to see of themselves.....I believe there's a lot more to ALL of these people, as well as this case, than meets the eye

      Oaklandrez

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    2. Oak...thank you for your post. And your willingness to stick your neck out.

      I don't know what the hell is going on. I only know it isn't cut and dry.



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    3. Thanks Mckee....I know that nothing is as it seems...it's odd to me that MSP has named NO PERSON OF INTEREST...it's odd to me that they have NOT cleared anyone, not even Trista...I think that is very telling.....

      Oaklandrez

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  7. The case magnitude may not have to do with Ayla but her father's alleged activities and associates and what else is going on in a parallel investigation. Recall how close in time Briana's arrest was, and note that the drug ring is far bigger than her and Brichetto. Brichetto was held in contempt for failing to comply with a grand jury subpoena even after being granted immunity. Then there's the insurance angle... plenty for investigators to sink their teeth into.

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    1. Anon, what do you make of the fact that Briana attended 3 grand juries?

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    2. @Anon 8:30 PM

      Please be more specific about Justin's "alleged activities and associates and what else is going on in a parallel investigation". Isn't that all hearsay said by people commenting on blogs. Parallel investigation?

      Do you really think Brianna was arrested a few weeks after Ayla disapppeared because of Ayla disappearing. They had to have been watching her for some time, to make that arrest.

      "...and note that the drug ring is far bigger than her and Brichetto"? Before I say anything about this you really need to clarify what you are insinuating. You seem to be implying it involved Justin. Well why wasn't he arrested?

      signed:getrealpeople




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    3. GRP, the documentation of Briana's arrest clearly shows they had only been wiretapping Briana's apartment since Dec. 2011. That isn't very long at all.

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    4. Well, if that is true, how long were they watching her? They were certainly "onto" Brichetto in order to find Brianna. This was more than a one month long investigation! Way longer, IMO. What does any of this have to do with Ayla?

      signed:getrealpeople

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    5. The OP believes that Jeff and Trista knew Brichetto. Justin's connection would be through Briana, if he is in fact a low-level drug dealer, as some imply.

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    6. GRP, checking Brichetto's court documents it shows the same thing, they found out about him during a wiretap in Dec. 2011. No exact dates given. I guess this is like the chicken and the egg riddle. Did they find Brichetto by wiretapping Courtney, or vice versa?

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    7. I thought it was determined a while back that Briana & Courtney didn't share the same apartment. However did live in the same apartment building, owned by a relative.
      Briana being wiretapped (or not) could have nothing to do with Courtney at all.

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    8. You are correct, they lived in the same family owned home but not the same apartment in that home. 2 separate phone lines equals two separate wire tap orders, one has nothing to do with the other IMO

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    9. I'm not sure it was determined by anything other than heresay. Anyone got any documentation supporting this "theory"? Tori?

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    10. Do some research, someone posted the property deed awhile back and the property is listed on the deed as a Multi family dwelling ie apartment building. That with Courtney's comment on the now defunct private ttlom makes it more than hearsay

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    11. Posted it on what website? Sorry, Courtney's comment means bupkiss to me, she has a darn good reason to lie about something like that.

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  8. GRP The grand jury proceedings are under seal so the details won't likely be publicized anytime soon. You'll have to draw your own inferences.

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    1. Anon, I am having difficulty in determining whether or not Brichetto took a plea deal or not. If he did, then by not testifying at the grand jury he violated his plea agreement and is then subject to the full term which I think was 40 years.

      Briana did take a plea agreement, and she testified at 3 grand jury meetings.

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  9. From http://www.nij.gov/topics/forensics/evidence/dna/basics/identifying-to-transporting.htm

    "DNA is organised in long structures which are called chromosomes that are found in cells such as blood, bone, teeth, hair, skin, tissues and also muscle cells among others.

    Samples generally considered unsuitable for testing with current techniques include embalmed bodies (with the possible exception of bone or plucked hairs), pathology or fetal tissue samples that have been immersed in formaldehyde or formalin for more than a few hours (with the notable exception of pathology paraffin blocks and slides ), and URINE stains. Other samples such as FECES, FECAL stains stains, and VOMIT can potentially be tested, BUT ARE NOT ROUTINELY ACCEPTED BY MOST LABORTORIES FOR TESTING".

    The reason I read that feces, fecal stains, vomit and vomit stains are not routinely accepted for DNA testing is becuse the DNA in these substances are easily degradable and often do not survive long enough for testing in the laboratory.

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  10. Oaklandrez, your theory would certainly explain why none of the DiPietros including Grandma, Auntie, and Daddy show absolutely any anxiety over their little princess Ayla in the hands of a stranger abductor. Their giving away of Ayla to a suitable family would NOT explain Justin's mysterious comments about "When it is time, the truth will come out." And "The truth is patient", etc.

    Very strange comments from a dad whose child has just been taken by a stranger with perverse intentions for Ayla. But then not apropos, either, for Justin knowing that Ayla was sent away for an illegal adoption. He would not want the truth to come out, ever, if he were involved in giving Ayla away.

    I guess you are theorizing that perhaps Phoebe, alone, from 29 Violette Avenue, knew of the "adoption". And handled it without the involvement of either Justin or Elisha. I guess Courtney was just an innocent in the whole thing, too. I'm wondering, like you, if Phoebe's alibi for the night of the 16th is watertight.

    Wonder why Kadoe's relative was not more forthcoming him/herself and relied on Kadoe to explain the whole transferring of Ayla. I'd love to see the whole venture written down by Kadoe's relative in his/her own words.

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    1. You are right, Justin did make some odd statements. And those statements may not be explained by my theory, however we do not know all of the ins and outs of what was actually going on, hence the "theory".....as far as Phoebe, I don't necessarily think it was her alone...I really think there may have been a member of Trista's family involved as well....

      Oaklandrez

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  11. More, (and the last) on extracting DNA from bio substances:

    December 20
    By Ben McCanna bmccanna@centralmaine.com
    Staff Writer

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    "Melisa Staples, assistant director of the New Hampshire State Police Crime Laboratory in Concord, N.H., said DNA can be found in blood, saliva, semen, bone, hair roots and skin cells, but not much else.

    DNA is also present in urine and feces, but it’s difficult for investigators to obtain evidence from those materials, Staples said. Urine contains a small amount of DNA and is difficult to find unless investigators have a large sample. Fecal matter is even less useful for investigators because its bacteria quickly destroys any DNA within the sample. Complicating matters further, urine or feces would be virtually undetectable if a crime scene was cleaned up before investigators arrived.

    Blood and saliva, on the other hand, might withstand a cleanup, and the DNA within is “very stable over time, particularly in a climate that’s dry and not hot,” Staples said. “It can be stable for years and years.”

    Dried saliva, however, would be difficult for investigators to find, because there aren’t chemical agents to detect its presence, she said. Investigators would almost have to find saliva by accident, she said.

    Blood is much easier to find, she said. If investigators suspect the presence of blood, they can use chemical agents — such as luminol and phenolphthalein — to confirm their suspicions.

    Luminol stimulates electrons within hemoglobin — a component of blood — and causes the mixture to glow. Luminol also reacts with bleach, copper, horseradish and more, so investigators at the scene often perform additional tests to confirm the presence of blood, Staples said.

    One such test uses phenolphthalein — a chemical that turns color when it is mixed with other substances. Investigators will typically swab an area that is suspected to be blood, then apply phenolphthalein to the swab. If the swab turns purple, it’s most likely blood, Staples said.

    Once the presence of blood is confirmed, investigators would swab a few more samples, then develop a DNA profile at the laboratory, she said.

    In other words, if Ayla’s DNA sample came from blood, investigators would know it was blood, Staples said. If the DNA came from something else, such as saliva or skin cells, investigators might never know its source." [End quote.]




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  12. OT

    Visitation supervisor charged in Waterville fleeing mom case


    http://www.kjonline.com/news/Visitation-supervisor-charged-in-Waterville-fleeing-mom-case.html

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  13. A new post is up continue to comment here also if you would like.

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