Monday, August 12, 2013

Do you have a pulse?

Does J4A have a pulse? If it does it has a purpose. I believe it's purpose is to create awareness for Ayla Reynolds to insure she gets Justice, and is never forgotten.
Lets take a closer look at what makes up J4A, and why it is here.

J4A is here because of a special group of people two of which are Tori and Katie, I like to think of them as the shoulders which J4A rests on. The remainder of us are very important parts to J4A, we are the rest of the body. Together we all make it complete and a functioning being. The thing that keeps J4A alive is the heart,this heart has a name and it is Ayla. The heart beats creating a pulse in every part of the being. We all have a pulse thus we all have a purpose as part of J4A. Our purpose is not to change peoples minds or their opinions. We are not here to prove guilt or innocence, Our purpose is to insure Ayla is not forgotten, and to plead for her Justice. It has been said some of the opinions here do a disservice to Ayla. I do not agree as our opinions do not change our purpose. Do you have a pulse? If you do then you too have a purpose. We welcome you to join us in creating awareness for Ayla, and insuring that she receives Justice, and is never forgotten.

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  1. Very nice Dana thank you but you forgot to include yourself up there. You have run circles around me and Katie as of late keeping this blog successful. You are a good person and a good friend. I am glad you stayed.

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  2. I included myself Tori I am proud and honored to be included in the body.

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  3. I don't trust "Lee".

    Check it out over at U4A...

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  4. Great blog post Dana!
    Couldn't agree more.
    :)

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  5. "Answers4Ayla said:
    August 12, 2013 at 6:38 pm
    Lee, MSP did not limit our purpose to any conditions or restraints and Trista has chosen September 24th as the day that she will appeal to the public for answers by releasing Ayla’s physical evidence.

    Trista also intends to hold a press conference in the small park adjacent to the court house after Justin appears before the judge on September 25th.

    We are hoping that with your fortitude and persistence of keeping Ayla’s name in the public, we will soon bring her home.

    ..let it never be said that we did it without anyone here."


    Jeff-we will do our part to keep her name in the public. God willing, she will be brought home.

    Thank you for keeping us all updated.

    Has Trista had her little boy yet? Anthony, I think.

    Hope all is well.

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  6. Looking At The FactsAugust 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    I for one will admit I never in all my life thought I would be able to have a civil conversation with Tori, Foil, Mckee, and many others. I am proud to be a part of this blog where we can discuss our theories and compare how it may or may not be possible.

    Dana
    Awesome post you are definitely included in one of the ones keeping Ayla in the forefront

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    1. Thanks Looking it takes all of us, we can all have a different opinion, but we all speak for the same purpose. Who would have thought a small beautiful child would have brought so many different personalities and opinions together for one cause. We will not stop til Ayla is home and she receives the Justice she deserves.

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    2. Another great post Dana!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    3. Thanks Looking, funny how things work out sometimes, isn't it? I guess I am not as bad as people were previously led to believe. Lol

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  7. Very nice post Dana. Perfect!

    Dana said- "It has been said some of the opinions here do a disservice to Ayla. I do not agree as our opinions do not change our purpose"

    ...I agree 110% It boggles my mind why or how anyone could even think or suggest such a thing. Our opinions, or anyone's opinion for that matter, is not going to change the purpose, which is Justice for Ayla. Nor are anyone's opinions going to change the outcome.
    How in the world is keeping an open mind about what may have befallen Ayla a disservice?
    How in the world is believing Ayla is alive, or could have been abducted a disservice to Ayla?
    To say that is pure bull, and it really angers me.

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    1. I totally agree Anon1.

      Signed:getrealpeople

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  8. Looking At The FactsAugust 12, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    I have a really hard time seeing comments like this from Jeff and thinking you have had this supposed evidence for how long and you wait until Justin has a court date to reveal it.

    Answers4Ayla says:
    August 12, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Lee, MSP did not limit our purpose to any conditions or restraints and Trista has chosen September 24th as the day that she will appeal to the public for answers by releasing Ayla’s physical evidence.

    Trista also intends to hold a press conference in the small park adjacent to the court house after Justin appears before the judge on September 25th.

    We are hoping that with your fortitude and persistence of keeping Ayla’s name in the public, we will soon bring her home.

    ..let it never be said that we did it without anyone here.

    Trista this is not a game this is your baby. If the evidence was so compelling shouldn't you have released it day one that you found out instead of making months of other names being smeared. Shouldn't you be the one emailing the AG daily instead of having all your lackeys do your work?

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    1. I agree Looking.

      This may sound cold to some (although it is not meant that way), but here it is anyway. Hope I make sense and get my point across.
      According to Jeff, and others, Trista has not been speaking out for Ayla for the last several months because she is pregnant. (They now, as her delivery date approaches, make it sound like she is ill, not pregnant.) Anyway, her daughter is missing, and she gets pregnant. She now must take care of herself for the new baby's/fetus' well being. What? Has she just totally blocked Ayla from her mind during her pregnancy, and she will start looking for her again after the baby is born? Who comes first in this woman's life? And, has she never heard of birth control? I'd say more, but feel I should stop here!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    2. I guess it would have been simpler to say: Trista's priority right now (and the past one and a half years) is taking care of her son, and her missing daughter. If the stress of Ayla missing is too much to deal with due to pregnancy, why would you let yourself get pregnant? Has she never heard of birth control?

      signed:getrealpeople

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    3. The pill works better than counting the days. Every time my wife said it was safe she got pregnant. Hey wait do you think she planned it that way? Boy you just can't trust em.

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    4. Now on the serious side I hope what ever they release Is straight forward and not vague like more than a small cut would produce.

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    5. getrealpeople...I am totally in your court on this issue.

      A third child by a third man is not an adequate or acceptable response to a missing child.

      I'm not interested in opening a can of worms here, but Trista continues to make questionable life choices.

      How about some education? Or employment?

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    6. This site is very judgmental. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. . . and you know who Im talking about

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    7. anonymous from maineAugust 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM

      Anonymous 2:19
      Then why visit this site? I happen to find U4A extremely judgemental hence why I don't go to that site. No point in posting just to be an ass.

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    8. Anon 2:19
      ah Roak the florist?

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    9. "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

      ...Well it isn't me. I can't afford a glass house. Don't think I'd want one, even if I could.

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    10. Golly, Getrealpeople..... be a little hard on Trista why don't you! Ayla did not disappear from Trista's home, she disappeared from Justin's home, while in his care. Where is and when have any of us seen Justin (himself) speak out for Ayla? Justin seems to have continue on with his life just fine and dandy. Do you expect Trista should stop living and take all her time to find Ayla, while the man who the responsibility to protect and care for Ayla just ignores the fact she is even missing?

      Whether Trista has one child or a hundred children with a hundred men is no ones business but hers. I guess it's ok for Justin to go around getting different women pregnant and not supporting the children, without being condemned. Not only does he get them pregnant he tries to get them abort, when that doesn't work his child 'disappears' on his watch.

      Looking at Justin and his lack of actions toward a missing Ayla, Trista (in my opinion) is a SAINT.

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    11. @AnonymousAugust 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      "Do you expect Trista should stop living and take all her time to find Ayla, while the man who the responsibility to protect and care for Ayla just ignores the fact she is even missing?" The second part of this sentence is not fact, but the first part, especially: "...stop living and take all her time to find Ayla", just amazes me!!!

      We don't know what happened to Ayla. LE will not even rule out Trista as a suspect. Could Trista and/or someone she knows be involved in Ayla'a disappearance? Why did Trista wait so long to file for custody, and then the next day Ayla disappears?

      Why has Trista been so adamant that Ayla is dead. Why does she seem to want Ayla declared dead. This has not just been recently.

      So, why would Ayla disappear under Trista's watch?

      signed:getrealpeople

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    12. From Glenda: I say take it easy on Trista too.
      This whole situation has been really difficult for her. The yo yo of emotions. The roller coaster of emotions. Having a missing child is not easy! The pregnancy does not take the place of Ayla. No matter how "many" children you have you always mourn the loss of one.

      I worry about Trista and continue to pray for her. I worry about past partum depression that frequently sets in after the baby is born. She has been through so much. Join together in praying for her. ..and praying that Justice be Brought Home for Ayla so that Ayla can be Brought Home!

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  9. "MSP did not limit our purpose to any conditions or restraints"....

    Is that a strange way to word it, ..*did not limit our purpose*....or is it just me?

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    1. I didn't catch that! Thanks for pointing that out Anon 1. It is strange.

      I also wonder why Jeff said Trista signed a non-disclosure statement, but then later said it wasn't about the "unequivocal evidence". What else would it be for?

      signed:getrealpeople

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    2. perhaps it is concerning evidence against the perpetrator, not concerning evidence that shows Ayla died likely...both sets of evidentiary findings are not mutually exclusive and separate, but portions of each data set might be to keep a case integrity intact for examination at trial, so one might talk about one set of findings and may not be allowed to reveal information from within the second set, thought the two sets have facts in common...

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    3. Anonymous 1:49

      Maybe, at least what you offer makes sense.

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    4. I don't know, ... I can't believe LE would give Trista "evidence against the perpetrator". (And remember, Alex, and his mom, are supposedly also present.)

      signed:getrealpeople

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  10. The other blog is said to be Ayla's voices.
    I feel so much more privileged being Ayla's pulse.

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    1. I second that. Well said Anonymous 1!!

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    2. Me three!

      Anonymous1...that post sent a shiver through my spine.

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    3. Voice vs. pulse. Sound as if both sites are investing in an alive Ayla. Althought the "voice" sounds a little more proactive than a "pulse."

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  11. I can not believe that few people like to trash each other on j4a or u4a we are all here for one purpose is to keep Ayla name out there.I do not believe it a good choice to have press conference the next day the 9/25/13 after Justin go to court this is so confussion that someone would set that as a date.this about Ayla not Justin he can not even keep his daughter name in the media.Also it no one business if Trisha chooses to have more children.THIS IS ABOUT AYLA.

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    1. I have no fucking idea what you are saying.

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    2. Makes perfect sense when you read it with a chinese accent.

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    3. Oh wait... I know who you are. Didn't you go to school with Justin, or at least around the same year in school as him? I'm curious what (if any) interactions you may have had with him. You're Karen F. yes?

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    4. thanks for the humor. it's like a breath of fresh air. kadoe

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    5. "I have no fucking idea what you are saying."

      mckeekitty, really? The comment was not grammatically perfect, but it was quite understandable. Would you like me to translate it for you? Seriously, I would be more than happy to do that.

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    6. "Makes perfect sense when you read it with a chinese accent."

      Michelle, what is your implication with your comment? I am just curious.

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    7. @ Rose City, Oregon, Don't try to get something started up here. I thought you were all about Ayla? I don't see her name mentioned in either of your posts!!!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    8. My apologies to Anonymous 12:29. My language was inappropriate.

      I regret my comment.

      And I have no issue with you putting me in my place, Rose.

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    9. someone needed to put you in your place.This is what I mean about people trashing other people.I too hope for alive ayla I have not given up hope yet.I do not know Justin or do I want to. the reason for reading these blog is for ayla.It just sad people saying about her having another child it not my business she has a right have as many children as she wants. sorry mekee if you could not understand what I meant I have TBI so my grammar is not the best and sometime I have hard time to express my thought in writing it gets mess up

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    10. TBI = Traumatic Brain Injury for those of you who don't know...not all of us type with ease, so please keep that in mind when reading posts...I have one too, and a broken hand :)

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    11. Thank you, mckeekitty for apologizing to the individual. It was the right thing to do, and I appreciate and respect you for it.

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  12. I do not care if you can understand it.mckeekity you are most rude person on these site

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    1. Anonymous 1:48
      You want the definition of rude check out anon 2:20 and 2:23. Mckee kitty may be a little ruff around the edges and blunt, but rude no. She cares about people.

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    2. I'd like to add...some times blunt is a good thing.

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    3. Plus she is a friend and a valuable asset to Justice for Ayla. I think you are also anon 1:48 she just didn't understand what you were saying.

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    4. It's interesting that Karen ignored my question.

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    5. just the foul talking that come from her mouth it not very nice. michelle Iam not Karen so I can not ansew your question.I just feel it not a good choice to have the press conference after Justin goes to court that all it just how I feel.

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    6. @Anonymous August 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM, a very bad attempt at trying to act like a foreigner! So glad you just suddenly "popped in" to let us know how you feel! LOL

      "Rose City, Oregon", you got a comment for this anon?

      signed:getrealpeople

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    7. this is the bs this site or other site does not need here this is about Ayla I thought.Dana you did agood job with what you wrote very interesting.Get real and Michelle why do you have to attack people on this site I do not like it sorry my grammar is not well written like yours but I have a tramatic brain injury so stop picking me apart.Iam not acting like a foreigner and I did not just pop in I follow this site but usually I do not voice anything due to being attack by people like you.I feel you are picking apart my disability just thank god you do not have TBI it not fun and it unacceptable for people like you to attack me and that what it is.I will not voice any thing on this blog not again.Thank you Rose City at least someone understood what I wrote.TY McKee for the apology you do have a heart. This site is for ayla Anonymous

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    8. Anon 1:53
      Please don't let anyone silence your comments. Now that you have explained about TBI I am sure they realize the hurt they caused you and are sorry.

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    9. Looking At The FactsAugust 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

      Anon 1:53

      It would really help if you would pick a name to use or sign your posts with a name. It of course does not have to be your real name. We just get so many Anons that just come here to start trouble it is hard to tell who is who.

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    10. Anon 1:53
      Yes you could still use anon but add 33 to it and we would know it was you each time. Anon 33 It is only a suggestion. We would like you to keep commenting.

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    11. I apologize for my comments. I thought you were someone else, and who I thought you were doesn't have a brain injury. As said above, it's hard to tell all of the anons apart since you all have the same name ;) Again, I am very sorry for making light of your errors. Please understand that they were not intended as an insult.

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  13. LOL "J4A is here because of a special group of people" aint that the truth you are all very special and I mean that sarcastically : )

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    1. Anonymous 2:20
      Your not being sarcastic you are just being you, which isn't much by the way.

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    2. Sarcastic or not, you acknowledge that we are all very special. Thank you. We are!

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  14. "September 24" J4A and the Waterville 3's dooms day. . . can't wait!

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    1. Anonymous 2:23
      What kind of person would want J4A to be doomed because they are holding onto the hope of Ayla being alive. Do you realize what your saying is you can't wait for Ayla to be claimed dead?

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      hmmm, I wouldn't count on that.

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  15. Thank you ChickenLittle, It is Anthony and he is due this week.

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    1. Good luck to Trista, Alex, Ray and Anthony. May they have years and years of health and happiness.

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    2. Anonymous 8/13 900 pm.

      That's a very nice comment and wonderful sentiment.
      I second that.

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  16. I have gotta say that I don't hold the same or similar opinions as most here. But that doesn't mean that I don't respect them.

    & again, while my opinion is not a popular one on this blog - it has been respected & I have been treated well.

    So to say that the people here don't tolerate those who don't agree w/the crowd...is not true.

    It all has to do w/respect I think. You respect other's opinions they'll respect yours. That has been my experience here.

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    1. I have to say that my opinions are more aligned with yours ChickenLittle but feel everyone should have a place to discuss their opinions regardless of what those opinions are in a respectful environment. The majority of people here are able to do that but some are just so intolerant to looking at things in a different perspective that they are mean and nasty. :(

      The people here are constantly being called Justin lovers or defenders and the truth of it all is many don't like Justin ether just not so sure Ayla was killed period let alone by Justin or someone in the home. I am happy to be apart of a blog that is tolerant and open minded.

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    2. You rock, chickenlittle. I agree. The only ones I see disrespecting anyone here are those drive-thru anons who think they're so clever calling everyone judgmental. Hey, remember who we're all fighting for? Ayla. She is the only one who matters here, not some stupid agenda you have against some people you don't even know.

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    3. Aw thanks Michelle!

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  17. Department of Public Safety spokesman Steve McCausland said he had "no reaction" to the website's claims, adding that the information shared during that meeting "is between us and her."
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    Steve goofed. He failed to say "between us, her, Alex, and Alex's mom?

    More:

    "Investigators have not had a similar meeting with Courtney Roberts -- a Portland woman who was at the Violette Avenue home the night before Ayla was reported missing. The meetings were only for Ayla's family members McCausland said."
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    Only for Ayla's family members? But what about Alex and Alex's mom?

    http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/ayla-reynolds-relative-posts-information-about-meeting-with-investigators_2013-02-11.html

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    1. Maybe there was a wedding and we were not invited. Nah they wouldn't forget us.

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    2. Thanks McKee, I'm glad you reminded me of those statements.

      Such a stark difference in the 2 meetings.
      To the DiPietro's the meeting brought hope. They felt that MSP was working with them, and not against them, in finding an alive Ayla.
      To Trista the meeting brought unequivocal evidence that Ayla is deceased.

      I can't just pass that by. It's significant. Someone's not being honest. Trista, the DiPietro's, or MSP.

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    3. I'm just questioning "Alex and Alex's mom" being present at this meeting.

      I mean...it had to be pretty classified if a NDA was involved, right?

      McCausland states the meeting was between "us and her." He made no mention of others.

      And he stated that Courtney wasn't shown the evidence because she's not "Ayla's family."

      How did Alex and his mom qualify as Ayla's family members?

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    4. Thanks mckeekitty, I hadn't seen that. Why is Jeff(/Trista) putting out all this false information?

      signed:getrealpeople

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    5. I understood what you were questioning McKee.
      I question it as well.

      Think about all that has been said since this meeting that happened with Trista.

      If Alex and his mother were at this meeting..Why is it that they couldn't correct Trista's *misunderstanding* about Justin & Derek going to Portland on the morning of the 17th. Possibly to dispose of Ayla's body.
      They misunderstood too?
      They couldn't correct Trista? Remember that Trista had to wait a week to ask the detective again???

      IMO either the story of Trista misunderstanding isn't true, or Alex and his mother wasn't there.

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    6. Glad the needle on your hinky meter is jumping too, Anonymous1.

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    7. My needle's been jumping a lot, the meter finally broke!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    8. MM said- To clear some confusion at J4A, the trip to Portland was discussed at a different time. Not at the time of the slideshow. Alex and his mom wouldn’t have heard the discussion.

      .....How do you know this for sure?

      Jeff said- in Feb.
      Trista misconstrued what she was told "last month" by LE (and Justin). She spoke with her detective yesterday ..."

      ....Last month being Jan. The same month Trista met with LE to discuss the evidence.
      Perhaps Jeff should have said that there was 2 meetings...*IF* there was. No wonder things are so ..?.. I don't even know what word to use. A bunch of half-truths. Misleading information.

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    9. Yeah, he's waiting for us to clear it up for him before he makes the big "unequivocal evidence" statement. Trista and him need over a month to get their statement prepared. They are counting on us to point out their inconsistencies (lies), before they release it. They'll still screw it up!!!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    10. Anonymous1-you raise good points, especially since it was said that the reason Trista "misconstrued" everything was because she had JUST been shown the evidence and was upset.

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    11. Anonymous 11:53 p.m.

      Thanks so much for reminding me, I knew I read that somewhere.

      Jeff said. Feb. 23 11:27 p.m. @ U4A Retraction & an Apology.

      "Scout, yes the information that MSP told Trista was over a month ago. I did not ask her about it until last week.. So from what you are saying… ***You are shown photos of how your daughter died***.. and what? what are you saying Scout? that she had plenty of time to clarify questions.. with who?

      ....So yes, Jeff said that Trista was told this information about the Portland trip at the same time as seeing the slideshow.

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    12. M.M,
      Just so you know I don't have an issue with you.
      My issue is with all the half-truths and misleading information going on.

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    13. As for the NDA,
      I don't have an issue with that. I don't even care about that.
      I know what Jeff said about the NDA, or rather *what he implied*.

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    14. Comment from Jeff --“Scout, yes the information that MSP told Trista was over a month ago. I did not ask her about it until last week.. So from what you are saying… ***You are shown photos of how your daughter died***.. and what? what are you saying Scout? that she had plenty of time to clarify questions.. with who?

      I said...….So yes, Jeff said that Trista was told this information about the Portland trip at the same time as seeing the slideshow.

      M.M. said...***I don’t have an issue with you either Anon 1. Nowhere in Jeff’s comment does he say Trista was shown the slideshow at the same time she was told the info about the Portland trip. Maybe all of you should wait until the unequivocal evidence is released and then decide if Trista may have been upset from seeing the slideshow and it affected how she remembered the information about the Portland trip she learned within those first weeks of January? Do you think Trista would be recovered from seeing 30-40 pictures of Ayla’s blood spilled in a week or two? Would you if it was your daughter’s blood

      ...Me...You're correct. It doesn't say that directly.
      Following the conversation that was taking place, one would easily get the impression that Trista was told the information about the Portland trip at the time of
      viewing the photos. It seems I'm not the only one who had that impression.

      You didn't answer how you know for certain that the Portland trip *misinformation* & photos shown to Trista happened at two different meetings. (you don't have to)
      Really there is only one way you could know for SURE. That's if you were there.

      I do NOT believe that MSP told Trista that they were considering that Justin disposed of Ayla's body on a trip to Portland on the 17th, or the 15th.
      So what was the purpose of that *story*? (Which Trista didn't tell to the public by the way)
      MSP knew that Ayla was accounted for on the 16th.
      Further, by MSP's own statements it *seems* that they believe whatever happened to Ayla, happened on the night of the 16th.
      " We believe the three that was in the home **that night** are not telling all they know." If they felt that something happened to Ayla at some other time, they wouldn't be concerned with *just* the three that was at the home **that night** No other names, other than those three have ever been mentioned by MSP. Nor any other time frame.

      You ask if it was my daughter and I had seen 30 to 40 photo's of her blood, would I be recovered in a week or tow? I'm not sure what you mean by recovered. I assume you mean would I remember every detail that was explained to me. I doubt it.
      I'll tell you something else. I don't like the game playing. There is a lot of it going on, and has been since Jan.-Feb. Even before that.
      Although I don't like it, in another way, I understand it.

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  18. I really hope this announcement that is coming Sept 24 helps bring Justice for Ayla. It has been so long and drawn out.

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    1. I think it's odd Trista has set a date, 42 days from now, for a press conference. If the subject of her missing daughter is so debilitating to her while she is pregnant, and right after she has her child, how can she already be planning for this event?

      Maybe they need to hear everyone's opinions before they make another debacle, like in the past!

      Sorry, I can't believe anything Jeff, or Trista, says.

      signed:getrealpeople

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    2. GRP...I agree.

      It was nice of Jeff and Trista to give us 42 days of advance notice to stock up on popcorn and beer for what promises to be quite the showdown come September.

      There is something very wrong with this orchestrated "event" that is in the works.

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    3. from Glenda:

      For mercy's sake! Give them a break! 42 days...what's the issue. I think she should have at least a month to recover from childbirth and to adjust to her new son, Anthony, before taking on anything stressful. That doesn't mean that she loves/loved Ayla any less.

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    4. I hope so to dana

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  19. If they should decide in the future to proceed with the evidence gathered Trista would be an important witness the prosecution would want sane, healthy and committed to the process of justice. It hasn't even been two years since the disappearance, that is just about enough time to start pulling the main threads of a life back together after any sort of life altering tragedy.

    It's good the group tolerates each others opinions and theories.

    Even if a suspect was indicted tried and convicted for a crime related to the disappearance there is no guarantee whoever is convicted would ever admit it. Sometimes, in a trade for conditions that are set to avoid a trial and a stiff sentence, the defendant performs a recitation of the facts before the court detailing all the
    who what when where whys and hows, but there has to be some leverage and something for the prosecutor to trade such as a plea reduction from second degree murder to voluntary manslaughter or downward to involuntary from voluntary, in return for a recitation of the facts and an arranged negotiated sentence.

    In the end the truth may never be known no matter how much people care or how hard they try find a living Ayla or promote justice for a deceased Ayla. That is why the group is special because the outcome is unknown and unknowable now and may remain that way forever.

    Sometimes people say "Fools go where angels fear to tread."
    Sometimes people say "God looks after fools and drunks."

    Destiny is a strange thing and free will is a strange thing.
    Somewhere in that mysterious mix the group creates momentum for an outcome that each person sees differently yet hopes for an answer.

    I pray for Ayla and those who love her daily.
    I pray for whoever might be responsible for her disappearance.
    Like most people I have a pretty set opinion on what I think happened but a reminder of tolerance and conscious respect for others is helpful no matter what the future holds.

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    1. I have a feeling that "Steppe" or "grandpa Sasquatch" is back. :)

      If it is you - welcome back!

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    2. Great comment Pilot. ChickenLittle, I agree. It sure does sound like Steppe/Grandpa Sasquatch.

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    3. Very good and true comment thank you Pilot, and welcome to J4A.

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    4. Great comment. Thank you Pilot.

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  20. Here's a thought provoking article.

    Seventy Eight is seventy eight too many.

    The article states that it's mostly runaways but gives no hard proof of that. The article also doesn't give a time frame that the children ran away in.

    None the less, it is still very interesting info & makes you wonder about Ayla's fate

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    1. Sorry forgot the article.

      http://m.newsok.com/article/3871014

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  21. I have been wondering about the meetings LE has had with family members. If they think they know the 3 are not telling all they know. Why don't they have a meeting with just the father and mother together, show them the evidence and see what shakes loose from that meeting. Having separate meetings makes it appear they don't know which side of the family to suspect. The paternal side is not talking so no one other than them know what they have been shown.

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  22. As to why Trista "set a date" to release information, maybe it is to stir the bees nest. Get whomever that is guilty of kidnapping or hurting Ayla to get nervous.

    Releasing information as to the crime that occurred will make the perpetrator nervous.

    Having them wait until the end of September knowing that's gonna happen would make 'em CRAZY.

    Not to mention the effect it would have on LE.

    I think this might be a very well played move on Trista's part.

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    1. Ya think, if i had something to do with it no matter how remote I'd be shakin.

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    2. I agree, ChickenLittle. I believe that it is a very good plan.

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    3. Chicken...as I understand it from Jeff, no photos are going to be released to the public. LE has the photographic evidence...not Trista.

      It sounds like we're going to "hear" a description of the photos. I'm not sure how persuasive such a presentation is going to be.

      I do hope Trista has consulted an attorney with her intention. Or better, that MSP silently wants the evidence released via Trista.

      Then I would feel more confident that this is indeed strategic and not haphazard.

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    4. I agree that it's a good strategy.

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    5. Yes ChickenLittle I'm sure that's the idea.
      I have mixed feelings about it.

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  23. Well, it appears we can close up shop here. Anna has it all figured out:

    Anna says: August 14, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    I believe Justin was for sure the murderer by losing his temper with Ayla one too many times. As any mother knows a toddler is extremely difficult and hard to handle, and on top of that, this was a baby he wanted aborted that looked like Trista. I hate to even say Ayla is gone and murdered, but I have believed it from the bottom of my heart since day one. The rest of them are either party to the abuse, or smack at their own children, or are so addicted to Justin’s giving of drugs that they do not care or talk. There has to be a reason, and I think his go, sis and Justin are all involved in this and all need to be put away. That is why they all refuse to talk.
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    Although Anna is entitled to her opinion, I think this comment should have been flagged by the admins.

    My opinion only.

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      Anna says:
      August 14, 2013 at 9:08 pm

      I believe Justin was for sure responsible by losing his temper with Ayla one too many times. As any mother knows a toddler is extremely difficult and hard to handle, and on top of that, this was a baby he wanted aborted that looked like Trista. I hate to even say Ayla is gone, but I have believed it from the bottom of my heart since day one. The rest of them are either party to the abuse, or smack at their own children, or are so addicted to Justin’s giving of drugs that they do not care or talk. There has to be a reason, and I think his go, sis and Justin are all involved in this and all need to be put away. That is why they all refuse to talk.

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    2. WOW,, what a statement! I agree it "should have been flagged by the admins. ".

      Besides the rest of the comment, "As any mother knows a toddler is extremely difficult and hard to handle", HUH!!!!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    3. Anna has my sympathy.

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    4. "As any mother knows a toddler is extremely difficult and hard to handle..."

      try teenagers.

      Toddlers are a piece of cake in comparison.

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  24. Ayla was mentioned in the sentinel.
    http://www.kjonline.com/news/Maines-missing-Theyre-out-there-somewhere-in-the-rest-of-the-world.html

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  25. OT but if you want to read about police making mistakes on blood samples and evidence check it out.
    http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2013/08/15/cruthirds-attorney-questions-how-police-handled-bl/1407907

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  26. The second witness of the morning was state forensic chemist Michele Fleury, who tested the evidence sent to the state lab by the Lewiston Police Department.

    Fleury testified that she tested blood found on a silver ring and black jeans that had been taken from Cruthirds during a police interrogation, and also tested Swift’s T-shirt, along with some swabs taken from Cruthirds and Swift.

    She also tested for blood believed to be on the knife used in the stabbing, but was not able to find large samples because the first five inches of the 8 1/2-inch blade, starting at the tip, were covered in dirt.

    Police found the knife at Lewiston High School.

    The crime lab did not test all of the items it was sent, only the ones considered the highest priority by investigators, Fleury said, so she did not test a bracelet or sweat pants that had been sent to the lab. And, she never tested two swabs taken from Cruthirds’ hands because the samples were never sent to the lab.

    She also did not test sheets, a blanket or any rug swatches from Swift’s apartment that may have contained blood because, although police took photos of the crime scene, none of the bedding or carpet was collected for testing.

    Police collected swabs of material that appeared to be blood from the walls and doorknob of Swift’s apartment at 174 Blake St., but that material was never sent for testing.

    In his cross examination, Richard asked Fleury whether she could determine the age of the blood found on Cruthirds’ ring and jeans, and she said she could not.

    He then asked whether she could determine if the blood found was from a cut or from menstruation, and she said she could not.

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    1. Wow, Dana! Interesting...

      Thanks for digging this up...I intend to look deeper into this case.

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    2. Sadly these kids of mistakes and negligence do happen.
      I a lot more states than Maine.
      Even coroners get the cause of death wrong many, many times.
      If one ever looked into all these mistakes, I think we'd be very surprised how often it happens.

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    3. Very interesting that the State Crime Lab testified that cause of blood-whether menstruation or via a cut or injury could not be deciphered nor could the age of blood be determined. I wonder if this holds true in all cases or just this one. Funny it also shows a recent incident of police mishandling evidence and actually making mistakes! How dare the Sun Journal? Police don't make mistakes.

      I am also curious as to why the Assistant District Attorney is trying the case, I thought only the Attorney General handled Murder Cases in Maine? Apparently that also is not true.

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    4. sorry, not kids, but, kinds

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    5. "Very interesting that the State Crime Lab testified that cause of blood-whether menstruation or via a cut or injury could not be deciphered nor could the age of blood be determined"

      ...I agree very interesting. I had read before that age of blood couldn't be determined. Wasn't aware that menstrual blood couldn't be differentiated. think I'll do some reading on that.

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    6. She testified she did not test those items so isn't it obvious she can't testify about whether it was menstrual or other blood?

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    7. Good scooping, Dana!

      Your findings would make a great post.

      I believed that menstrual secretions would be somehow distinguished from other blood origins.

      Once again, you prove to be a custodian with smarts.

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    8. anon 12:22
      He then asked whether she could determine if the blood found was from a cut or from menstruation, and she said she could not.

      The blood found that she did test is how I read it.

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    9. Anonymous 12:22,

      I understood that she did test those items.

      ...Fleury testified that she tested blood found on a silver ring and black jeans that had been taken from Cruthirds during a police interrogation

      ....in his cross examination, Richard asked Fleury whether she could determine the age of the blood found on Cruthirds’ ring and jeans, and she said she could not.
      ...He then asked whether she could determine if the blood found was from a cut or from menstruation, and she said she could not.

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    10. Sorr Dana, doing 2 things. Didn't see your response.

      We agree.

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    11. That's ok you backed me up.

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    12. I have made my decision to no longer follow this group or make statement due to my grammar Iam very hurt by the statement of a few people here.So I will stay silent.so I do not have to feel less then or feel stupid by these people that think there grammar perfect or they have all the ansews.Iam sure none of you care any ways. anonymous 33

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    13. Wow! That is really scary that Lewiston Police department messed up so bad with the evidence. Makes you wonder how times cases have been completely messed up due multiple, major mistakes.

      I wonder if it will ever come out how many mistakes were made w/Ayla's case.

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    14. I am confused about what was tested. The snip above says,
      "The crime lab did not test all of the items it was sent, only the ones considered the highest priority by investigators, Fleury said, so she did not test a bracelet or sweat pants that had been sent to the lab." This says she did not test bracelet and sweat pants. Where is the info indicating she did test them from?

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    15. She did not test them you are correct.

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