Wednesday, July 17, 2013

What Happens Now?



I know I have been infrequent in my writing blog posts on Ayla's case or any other case but in light of recent events, I felt there were some things I needed to say as well as wanted to say.

For starters, I find Justin's arrested very curious to say the least. When the news first broke on United4Ayla.com I looked throughout the internet as well as Cumberland County's arrest sheet and could find no hint of it except on United4Ayla.com. It wasnt until the next day that it was in the news and online in other places. Anyone who is arrested and booked at the Cumberland County Jail has their arrest record on the website usually within a week of their arrest regardless of whether or not they bailed out. The police chief claimed it was a clerical error. I guess it could have been but I am noot buying it. Someone leaked the original unedited arrest log to U4A so if it was a clerical error how did it make it to the arrest log and then get deleted. If it had never made the arrest log then I would be more apt to say okay, maybe it was a clerical error. Whomever sent the unedited log into U4A knew that Justin's name was going to be scrubbed from it or else they could have just directed them to the website, right?
 
 

I also find it coincidental that an officer just happened to drive by to see Justin assault Courtney. Talk about good timing although it would not be uncommon for a police officer to be patrolling the area near the Holiday Inn By The Bay since it runs parallel to Congress St. and is very close to the Civic Center. We know Justin and Courtney had broken up, I am curious as to why they met. Was it to talk? I would love to know who initiated the meeting. Did Justin call Courtney to talk or did Courtney call Justin?

My thoughts on this, and my thoughts ONLY because I have no verification only my hunch to go on, is that IF Justin and/or Courtney DO know what happened to Ayla that night maybe Courtney went to LE after their break up and told them what she knew to save herself. Maybe Courtney agreed to wear a wire and meet Justin to talk. IF Justin was guilty, he certainly would think it was in his best interest to talk to Courtney to find out if she planned to talk or not. Maybe things got heated and once Justin grabbed Courtney, LE intervened in order to keep her safe. Maybe Justin grabbed her to see if she was wearing a wire?

OR, Maybe Courtney was the culprit and and Justin covered for her because he was in love with her and didn't want her to lose her son. Maybe now that they are not together Justin went to LE and agreed to meet Courtney wearing a wire. Maybe Justin was so angry that she had hurt Ayla that he grabbed her. In order to keep Courtney safe and not blow Justin's cover, a police officer happened upon the scene and removed Justin. Maybe they planned on tossing out the charge which was why they didn't want the charge to become public knowledge? Or maybe the whole scenario is an unrelated coincidence and neither are to blame?

As far as Jeff's comments that bloggers probably know more than he does, there is no conspiracy at least not with the bloggers here at J4A as they are all I can speak for. I have been given information from Jeff but as far as knowing the whole story, I can honestly say I do not because I am only hearing info from Jeff not from Justin's side and as far as I am concerned, only the person or persons responsible for what happened to Ayla really know the whole story. I have not released the information that was shared with me for a couple of reasons. The first and foremost reason being that it is not my place to share it. If LE wanted it released, they would have released it. If LE is okay with Jeff and Trista releasing it, then Jeff can do that and I will let him do it here because I want this blog to be well rounded and if Justin or Courtney or Elisha want to use this forum to release something here, they also have permission to do so. I do not want to be responsible for hindering the investigation.

I also have not released the information because I can not corroborate it. I do believe Jeff was given this information by LE. I don't think Jeff is involved in Ayla's disappearance at all, I do not know if Trista or others in her family are, I tend to believe that they aren't but I don't think Trista is 100% innocent in all of this. I do apologize that Jeff came across to some of you as taunting and acting as if he knows something you all don't know, because LE meets with him directly he of course is going to know things we don't know. I think his intentions were to get LE to act not to tease the readers here. If I am mistaken, then I apologize.

Initially, I had started this post the other day and it was entirely different. I was curious as to where people stand now? Over a year later do you still feel the same as you did during the first few months of Ayla's disappearance in regards to what happened to her and who is responsible or have things that transpired over the last 19 months changed your viewpoints? Do you think that with Justin's arrest that it might get the ball rolling? Anyone convicted of a domestic abuse charge is prohibited from owning firearms if Justin is innocent will he spill what he knows in order to try to get the charge dropped to simple assault? Or in the grand scheme of things, is taking a domestic abuse charge a better alternative as opposed to a murder charge or a conspiracy to commit murder charge? Or is Justin just one really unlucky guy who can't catch a break to save his life and really innocent in all of this?

126 comments:

  1. Good to hear from you Tori, and anything is possible at this point and time.

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  2. Gonna try this again. Lost my first comment to cyberspace.

    Tori, I agree with your assessment as far as the "clerical error". When I read that in the news, my first instinct was, that's bull. But maybe I'm too jaded. Who knows.

    As far as what I think 19 months later...
    About the same as I did initially. That Trista did not have a hand in Ayla's disappearance. Or as MSP thinks, her death.

    Although I do not feel that Trista is a pure as the driven snow in this case.

    As far as who's responsible for Ayla being gone...70% of me thinks Justin is ultimately responsible.

    I think 100% he knows what happened to Ayla.

    All of this is subject to change though. I, like a pendulum, swing back on all of this.

    I hope this is the start to true justice for Ayla. 19 months is 19 months too long.

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  3. With everything LE hasn't confirmed the one that bothers me is the blood. They showed the evidence to Justin he supposedly got up and walked out. Then they showed the blood evidence to Trista. Well if those statements are true, and they suspect Justin hasn't told all that went on. Whats the big secret about the blood evidence Justin has already seen it. How is making it public knowledge going to jeopardize their case. Justin would have told the others there that night all about it if they were trying to hide something.

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    1. Dana...the blood bothers me too:

      "mckeekitty; I'm not trying to be cryptic, we have told you all along that more than a cup of Ayla's blood was found in Justin's basement. We will only be telling you where and how now."
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      Who is "we", Jeff?

      LE won't touch the subject with a ten-foot pole.

      No shortage of fools that will take your every word at face value.

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    2. mckeekitty I was at a site that explained about luminol evidence check it out when you have time. It also tells about some prosecutors.
      http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/FBI6.html

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  4. My guess as to what Jeff was alluding to was the pattern of the blood left behind. From what I've read & heard, much insight can be gained from blood spatter evidence.

    How someone died. :(



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    1. It is used to find trace amounts so I don't think they can determine the amount per say. That is unless every hit with it comes up with DNA. They can't tell just by color because it just shows blue. Also bleach shows the same blue.That is why it is effective on trace amounts of blood you can't come away with 100% clean.

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  5. John P says: July 17, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    I am of the opinion she may have been alive on the 16th as well but if so I believe it was early on the 16th, before noon. If the harm was inflicted the evening of the 15th, they put her to bed to recover as they did with the broken arm and then sometime after Elisha and Phoebe leave Ayla passes the morning of the 16th. That would leave enough time for clean-up with the help of a sister who worked part time at best, maybe even the help of a friend who was passed out from the night before. Another not new theory but still pounding my head as well to answer the questions and fill the holes.
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    Yeah, John! That's the ticket!

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    1. I guess the thought process never entered your mind did it kitty? If your going to play with a ball and string at least make it fun for your owners. We may have to trade you in for a kitten... You have been neutered.. haven't you? :)

      Anyway mckeekitty, if your going to hold a grudge, you will never be taken seriously... You have it in you to be better than that.. fix it.

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    2. "You have been neutered.. haven't you?"
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      Has Trista "been neutered?" Apparently not.

      I don't like you, Jeff.

      I don't trust you.

      No grudge. Just my take on you.

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    3. That's ok Kitty, I don't like me either..

      But, I do refer you to the "Tough Titty clause" stated in the previous post.. (Apparently it is also big in Ohio).

      Anyway I have to get back to Answers for Ayla now.. you have fun with .. whatever it is that you think your doing... P.S. fix it.

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    4. I don't like you either, Jeff. You come here and act as though you are all big and tough and treat the people that have been here from the start like crap. I get that you and your family are frustrated, so are we. Taunting and teasing people with "evidence" does not make it better. Some people hang on your every word while others are skeptical of everything you say. If you want us to hear and understand you, you need to hear and understand us, simple communication. The people that are skeptical (me, for one)are so because of discrepancies in your statements, retractions, releases of things that even LE won't reveal, and the list goes on. I'm not bitter nor am I holding a grudge. I'm just a concerned person on a blog that can't fathom what has happened so far and can't imagine what is yet to come. I am truly sorry for what your family and Justin's family for that matter, have and are going through. I hope that there are answers for Ayla soon!

      Oaklandrez

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    5. Oaklandrez; You misread the intension, because your only looking at now. The only one taunting people here is you and the kitty.

      Once again, I’m not going to sugar coat it for anyone and I’m not going to hold your hand.. but I can be an easy target for you to vent on ..and I’m sure you will rally people to your cause.

      My patience for bruised egos, petty debates, and arguments has run it's course. If that makes me "unlikeable" then so be it.

      This is not a popularity contest for me.. this is a travesty of justice. I just cannot see it any other way.

      Anyway, thank you for your sediments Oaklandrez, you and the Kitty have had unique and thought out insights to offer.. When I'm not around anyway :)

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    6. "This is not a popularity contest for me.. this is a travesty of justice."

      Amen Jeff and for the record, I like you. :) I think it's sick that the people who harmed Ayla and hid her, are going about their lives with no thought to the damage they have done. They, and they alone, have left everyone wondering and praying, yet they KNOW and won't say.

      When the truth is known and the guilty parties revealed, I pray they suffer 10 fold what they caused Ayla and others to suffer.

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  6. Hey Tori, Good to see your writing again about what everyone has been thinking about. I find it odd that a lieutenant just happened to be driving by also. Was Justin being watched? Was Courtney working with LE?

    Anyway, just a few clarifications about your post and previous comments; First and foremost, LE does not meet with me directly. Also there are many bloggers that know more about the particulars of Ayla's case then I do. Tim Caya, JohnP, MM, CG, and Tori to name a few.. (and Dana is catching up)..

    I’m not challenging MSP, just letting them and everyone else know in advance of Trista’s intensions. Of course, I will e-mail MSP directly before I post to give them a heads up for the inevitable press response and to ask their advice about making the evidence public.

    Trista is not under a disclosure clause in this matter (and we never said she was). This is her choice. Ayla will always be Trista's daughter and the decision is ultimately hers. Whether you or I agree with her or not is of no consequence.

    This will be a three person's perspective post and all I can tell you now, is that the burden of evidence will be soon be on the public with this post.. And frankly, It is about time that someone else carried it..

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    1. Phew! Thanks for showing up, Jeff.

      Can you please explain this: "There are other people within these blogs who have been told the whole story and to their credit they have not released any of it."

      TIA!

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    2. PS: "Trista is not under a disclosure clause in this matter (and we never said she was)."
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      What matter are you referring to, Jeff?

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    3. Jeff states:

      "Of course, I will e-mail MSP directly before I post to give them a heads up for the inevitable press response and to ask their advice about making the evidence public."

      "We will let the public decide if MSP does not release it before Trista does."

      "We will let the public decide by releasing the 'unequivocal evidence.'"

      Which is it, Jeff?

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    4. McKee ask- What matter are you referring to, Jeff?

      Certainly not answering for Jeff, but I believe he is saying that Trista is not under a NDA pertaining to the "unequivocal evidence".

      Here is what Jeff has said before about the NDA.
      -- "I cannot say how Trista has been involved as she has signed a non-disclosure form, only that she has helped MSP in their discovery process"--

      Jeff has also in the past said that Trista aided MSP at the B&B vigil in Jan. She was being debriefed after the vigil. One would think that IF she was ask to sign a NDA, it would have been then.
      However in Feb, a few weeks after that, Trista is quoted in the press as saying that MSP has told her that she could say whatever she wanted about the investigation, but they would not back her.







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    5. I question the existence of this NDA between Trista and LE.

      "She said police have showed her pictures of evidence in the case, but she would not say what that evidence is.

      "Reynolds said she is hesitant to provide details because investigators asked her to refrain from sharing information that could jeopardize their case.


      Read more: http://www.wmtw.com/news/maine/central/Trista-Reynolds-Police-show-evidence-that-makes-her-believe-daughter-is-dead/-/8791976/18555858/-/8ok1i6/-/index.html#ixzz2ZRLQNcZp

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    6. Trista is always playing the " I can't answer that, MSP has told me it might jeopardize the case" card. And then other times she says, MSP has told her that she could say whatever she wanted about the investigation, but they would not back her (Thanks Anon 1). What's up with that? Seems a rather convenient way to explain her comments to the public and avoid questions she doesn't what to answer.

      signed:getrealpeople

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  7. I am getting the impression both sides have seen the slides and blood evidence. So Trista disclosing those two parts should not be a problem. That is unless LE thinks someone other than Trista's side, and other than Justin,and Courtney are responsible. Then going public would be a problem.

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  8. It boggles my mind how anyone can come along & make this about them. This a investigation into a death of a year and a half old baby girl. This isn't about any of us posters on a blog. This about a baby girl & her fractured family trying to pick up the pieces of their life while being held hostage by the state police in order to receive justice for a beautiful, blonde haired, blue eyed cherub.

    That baby will never come home to mommy again. Her mommy will never be able to hold her, look at her, hear her laugh.

    The someone who serves as a messenger from a mother has to worry about being harassed on a blog. Guess what? He nor the baby's mom do not have to tell us anything. Not a dang thing. Since when do they have to report to us? They don't.

    Have some compassion. It is a very difficult situation for all involved & for those of us that have been here from the start. But that doesn't mean anyone owes us any explanations.

    Again, this is an investigation into a baby girl's death. (As per the state police). This isn't a pissing contest.

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    1. It boggles the mind how there are so many here who lack basic reading comprehension yet are skilled at creating red herrings and straw-man arguments.

      First of all her name is "Ayla" and not "that baby."

      Second, we have asked Jeff to put up or shut up. That's not the same thing as demanding he reveal things to us because we're nosy SOBs.

      Third, we don't want messengers or messiahs. We want facts from reliable first-hand sources.

      We are owed respect from Jeff because we care about Ayla and many of us have been here from the start, but most importantly because that's how people should be treated.

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    2. I don't think you can ask anyone to "shut up". If someone doesn't like what another has to say, just pass it by. Jeff has as much right as you or any poster here to speak his mind.

      No one is owed respect, one earns respect. One gains respect from others by being respectful to others.

      Do you think Jeff doesn't care about Ayla? Do you think you, Foil, care MORE about Ayla then her family?

      If posters want respect, then they need to give respect.

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    3. And if you truly only want "facts from from reliable first-hand sources", then I wonder what you are even doing on a blog? The facts from 'firsthand sources' will be available when the investigation is done. Or, you could hope the cowards to committed this crime against Ayla decide to talk, but I wouldn't hold your breath for that one.

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  9. Thanks for the tip on her name. I didn't realize we were posting on the Justice for AYLA blog.

    No one owes you any respect when your acting less than respectable.

    This isn't about you. This isn't about me.

    As Jeff said, he will let us know what he's inferring to when he gets the go ahead from AYLA'S *mother*. Not me or you. In the meanwhile he has let MSP know what's up.

    Have a nice day. :)

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    1. It's respectful to address people by their name, especially those in question, instead of prefacing an objectification of who they are preceded by "that."

      I have done nothing less than respectful. I have never misled anyone, lied or played them. I have never asked for recognition or money. I have simply given my time, a lot of it, to see if I can help.

      It's respectful of Jeff to let MSP know that he is releasing the information they have been withholding.

      How nice. :)

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  10. those in the house the night before and day of alyiah coming up missing knows what happened they need to

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  11. those in the house the night before and day of alyiah coming up missing knows what happened they need to tell le

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  12. I will say that when LE stated in both Justin's arrest as well as Ron's arrest for domestic violence that it's not related to the disappearance of Ayla, that it means the ARREST isn't DIRECTLY related. But was Justin or Ron upset and arguing about something related to Ayla, fighting about it? I believe it's very possible.

    When this case first started I thought it was a slam dunk case against Justin and his family. Now I don't know who did what but I believe many more than the three in that house are in the know of what did happen.

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    1. Take all the Tudelas and Lance DiPietro and right there you can add any number of people "in the know". I don't think Angela knows her elbow from her toes and just repeats what she's been told by Heidi...all the versions of the story: when Ayla was discovered missing and how everybody reacted.

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  13. Great to see you back Tori. This is another chapter in a horrible story and I pray something leads to Ayla...Soon!

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  14. I've never been one to jump to conclusions. There are many reasons why Justin and Courtney could have been arguing. They were in a relationship for a few years and experienced a recent breakup. It may well have had nothing to do with Ayla at all.

    I do find it a strange coincidence that a LE officer just happened to be passing by at that particular time. Of course that leads me to ponder various reasons. Although, the argument did happen close to a large hotel, and I would expect that the area is patrolled often.

    I don't necessarily believe that LE was withholding news of Justin's arrest...although that certainly could be.
    I DO believe that John P. was given a heads up from someone. (for various reasons)

    In the beginning of Ayla's case I felt that it was more than likely a custody battle and Trista had taken Ayla.
    As time went on I began to believe that Ayla was abducted, although, not by Trista herself.
    I still hold the belief that Ayla could very well have been abducted.

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  15. Foil, I agree, initially I thought it was a slam dunk against Justin, as time goes on and there are no arrests, I start to question what I know and how many people are really involved.

    I can only hope this case doesn't become a cold case and that it is solved soon.

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  16. I don't think Justin's arrest has anything to do with Ayla's disappearance. The matter is between Justin, Courtney, and the courts...as it should be.

    I AM surprised that Courtney was identified as the victim. I thought that was reckless. No complainant was named in the incident with Ron Reynolds.

    How many are involved or knowledgeable? I have no idea. The reward money came and went without yielding anything solid. I tend to think that the more people involved, the harder the secret is to keep.

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    1. Justin's actions toward Courtney probably have nothing to do with Ayla's disappearance except that it shows Justin has a short fuse and wouldn't think twice about pummeling a woman. Does it show that in a temper Justin could have poushed or shoved Ayla? Not out of the realm of possibility. Especially when one considers the blood in Justin's basement bedroom.

      Both Justin and Lance act like thugs both verbally and physically and get away with it.

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    2. pummeling?..Where did that come from?
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    3. Give it a week anon 1 and it will become a "factual" story of how Justin curb stomped Courtney in from of cops....sickening how 2nd and 3rd hand information becomes fact in a case such as this.
      We were not there, we do not know what actually happened and without video or audio evidence we will never know what actually happened. All we can go by is what was reported and all reports I have read/seen Justin grabbed and pushed the woman in question. Whether this had anything to do with Ayla's disappearance remains to be seen.
      I am by no means defending Justins actions, just saying that without being there and knowing what actually happened none of us can judge.

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    4. I think at this point and time Justin could see a house burning, run inside and save a persons live, and in the public's eye he would be guilty of arson.

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  17. That "poushed", and not pushed, is simply the French lingo for "le action de Justin".

    What were those two people doing near the Holiday Inn at that time of night? Were they together in the hotel? Just taking a near-midnight stroll on Spring Street and accidentally encountered one another? Either of them stalking the other?

    Wanna bet we find the answers to none of these questions?

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    1. Stands to reason if Courtney lives on Spring Street and Justin wanted to meet with her, she would pick a public place nearby. Good thing she did. She is one smart cookie, I have to hand it to her.

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    2. Now that is something new...
      Someone thinks Courtney is a smart cookie.

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  18. Ya know, this feels a little like the calm before the storm.

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  19. I'm just dumbstruck by the innumerable scenarios presented by U4A re: Ayla's fate at the hands of Justin. Every conceivable manner of a heinous death is acceptable discussion.

    Never mind that LE hasn't named a person of interest or ruled anyone out.

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    1. Looking At The FactsJuly 21, 2013 at 7:03 PM

      I have to agree Mckee The site description is

      Welcome to United for Ayla

      Since I began working on this blog, United for Ayla has been undergoing changes in appearance, content and Administration. But we are devoted to keeping a voice that is loud and dedicated to Ayla. Our resolve is still to Bring Ayla Home! In order to do this, we must find Answers for Ayla.

      We thank you all for the outpouring of public support and we welcome you to help us Bring Ayla Home.. with United for Ayla..

      Instead it reads like a game of Clue that always starts Justin did it with a ? in the ?. Can you imagine how any member of Ayla's family can stomach reading some of their scenarios. They talk of blood splatter and how that happened when LE has never mentioned blood splatter. They seem to write as if they are writing a crime novel and get so wrapped up in it they seem to forget this is about a missing baby. John is quick to come here and tell people they owe Ayla an apology then he goes back to his site and describes another way she must have died. It really makes me sick to read some of their stories based on their own made up evidence.

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    2. I agree with both of you.

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    3. As do I agree.

      McKee's comment is accurate and right on point.

      There has been countless scenaarios concerning Ayla's fate at Justin's hand @ U4A.
      Every conceivable manner of a heinous death is acceptable, and has been discussed.
      No one can say that that is not true.
      She did not mention any specific blog post....or timing.
      The fact is, no matter the blog post title, Justin and how he contributed to Ayla's death is brought into it. Always!

      It's a *good thing* that there is a blog where those with a different point of view can express their opinions.
      For that, I'm thankful to Katie & Tori.





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    4. It really isn't about one site against another or one is for or against. When a case goes on as long as this one with no updates from LE it gets difficult for topics. When you start rethinking scenarios from different angles you start out with good intentions. The thing is if you already leaned one way the first time it is going to take some real compelling evidence to get you to lean the opposite way, or even to bring you back to center.It is really suppose to be about Ayla and bringing her home. Sometimes that gets a little sidetracked. JMO

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    5. This is the reason for my earlier statement that, Justin could run into a burning building and save someones life, and be accused of arson.

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    6. I'd like to clarify my "it's a good thing" comment.
      ...and by the way, I do appreciate all your work too Dana, very much.

      It's a *good thing* to have a blog other than U4A to discuss Ayla and her case. For I have no desire to discuss scenarios of how and by whom Ayla may have met death.







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    7. Anonymous1,

      I am glad that there is a place that people can come and express their opinions, even differing opinions and still be treated with respect and tolerance but also be among people who are capable of looking at both sides of the coin even if they don't agree because they are capable of temporarily putting on someone else's shoes.

      I also need to thank Dana for helping tremendously with this blog and all who continue to visit here and participate. I don't feel it is necessary for us or anyone to speculate about all of the heinous ways Ayla could have died in detail. Brief overviews such as accidental, intentional etc are sufficient, it is too awful for me to hear gory details about what might have or might not have happened to Ayla.

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    8. I have to agree with you both it is good to have J4A to go to on a regular basis. If anything I do helps Ayla or anyone else to keep her name out there I am pleased.

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    9. Anon 1,

      I have to agree with Dana, that it is a great thing to have many locations that are talking of Ayla and For Ayla! Bravo to Dana, Tori and Katie for providing a forum that you are comfortable discussing sweet Ayla.

      We at U4A however, have a different opinion than you. This is fantastic that we can differ. You obviously do not believe the May 31st press confernce last year and we at U4A do. Though our discussions include what Mr McCausland released that day, your discussions here do not have to. That is what is so great about having differences of opinion.

      As for what appears to be a which blog is better, the answer is neither! Ayla is still missing and answers are still being looked for. If the U4A discussions are not for you then maybe J4A is, and vice versa. There is no right or wrong when Ayla is still missing and answers are still being looked for. There is only the FACT, Ayla needs us all talking for her, not quibbling over which blog is better or who is right or wrong. We all have our own opinion and should be able to discuss it.

      As for why we believe differently, well I guess that is based on what we read and hear from LE! You may feel they are worng, while we feel they are right. It is as simple as that.

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    10. John said- "As for what appears to be a which blog is better, the answer is neither! Ayla is still missing and answers are still being looked for"
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      Thing are not always what they appear. It was not & is not my intention to suggest that one blog is better than another. I wish there were many more blogs helping to keep Ayla's name and pictures prominent in the public.

      "You obviously do not believe the May 31st press confernce last year and we at U4A do."
      ......

      I'm not sure to what you are referring about the May 31 PC.
      I'm going to assume you mean -"we believe it is highly unlikely that Ayla will be found alive".
      It's not a question of whether I believe that or not, it's - how and what *I* interpret that to mean.
      IMO, it leaves room for a few different scenarios.
      Let me ask you John, if Ayla was abducted, how likely is it that Ayla will be found alive?

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      You ask "Let me ask you John, if Ayla was abducted, how likely is it that Ayla will be found alive?"

      Statistically speaking, there is less than a one percent chance according to the statistical databases of children kidnapped and not found within a certain time frame.

      If Ayla was abducted, I pray that those that abducted her would have the compassion and conscience to treat her as their own with love and respect. But Anon1 I have to go back to the MSP comments once again to base my decision. "No Abduction Occured at 29 Violette Ave". It has been stated by MSP dozens of times, but again if you chose to read that differently than I, I applaud you for standing firm, and consistant, in believing that MSP is wrong.

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    12. John P says above: "As for why we believe differently, well I guess that is based on what we read and hear from LE! You may feel they are worng, while we feel they are right. It is as simple as that."
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      Worng?

      Yes, I think LE could have made errors in this case. They have, IMO, done a piss-poor job keeping the public updated. I recognize there are no new developments, but this case is big time...the largest missing person case in Maine history. It deserves regular updates from LE, if only for the sake of community morale.

      I sense LE is just giving up. Hell, Ayla's disappearance doesn't even appear on the MSP website...the site hasn't been updated for years.

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  20. In response to Mountain Mama's comment to me on U4A:

    Dear MM,

    Perhaps, for the sake of balance, you could pen a post on Trista's strange comments and behavior. It would at least be a gesture that you are indeed fair and seeking truth for Ayla.

    Cordially,
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      If you want to compile a post of Trista's comments that are concerning to you, I would be happy to post it or send me a few that you find troubling and I can write a post. I don't think that u4a will post anything that could be viewed as disrespectful to Trista even though I do know a few people there are trying to be a little more open to other possibilities which is a step up from how things were before I started this blog.

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  21. John P: "But McKee, when will the irony stop? You claim we are throwing darts at Justin with every post..."

    For the love of GOD would you PLEASE stop throwing daggers, knives, blunt instruments, horrid scenarios at dear little Ayla?! Tori is right. You don't have to get into gory details ad nauseum in your endless speculations! It won't help solve the case, it won't help Ayla, and it surely probably hurts a lot of people to read!

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  22. Well if Justin would come forward with the details he is withholding this case could have been over right from the get go. . . no one went into the house and took Ayla, that just doesn't make sense to anyone with a brain. If Justin was so worried about Ayla being taken, whether by Trista or a stranger, why on earth wouldn't them have made sure doors and windows were locked, why did he not have Ayla sleep downstairs with he, his girlfiend and her baby??????? This is want points to Justin from the beginning as far as Im concerned. And then not to scream from the roof tops from the very beginning and on to the kidnappers to return this precious child?

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    1. I don't agree with all of your points. Number 1. maybe he has told all facts he knows maybe not. Could be all he has left are suspicions. Number 2. Every one has a brain they just may not be convinced and believe the way you do. Number 3. Justin may have been worried Trista would show up the way he did with a police officer and a locked door would have done nothing to stop them. Granted I would have been screaming if it were me, but I am not Justin and neither are you. I will agree with you that he should have been.

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  23. Who in this day and age goes to bed without checking to make sure the front door is locked? I certainly don't. And if I was worried about the safety of my child I would certainly out of responsibility make sure all windows and doors are locked. I just have to side the LE and Maine State Police that this was not a kidnapping. . . they aren't both wrong on what they saw when they spent countless hours looking through the Waterville home and interviewing everyone over and over again including the Reynolds. What they found point to the Dipietros and company. It is only going to be a matter of time before this is solved. . . I pray for Justice for Ayla! Justin it is time to speak out, isn't the time right now? Ayla is probably getting a tired of this "game".

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    1. I lived in Maine 5 years ago. I was born raised there. I never locked my doors even when we had small children. We did have a dog that was very protective of the children. We never felt the need to lock the doors. Granted it is a different world when you live in the country versus the city. I can guarantee you no one would have gotten into the kids bedroom.

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    2. I go to bed every night without checking my doors and windows. It may not be the smartest thing to do but I have 2 large dogs that whoever makes it into my house will have to contend with as well as a gun in the night stand....good luck breaking in and getting out without a bite or a bullet.

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    3. I'm another one,
      My windows are open all night at this time of year.
      Our patio door is often left open all night. Our doors are seldom locked, unless we're gone for the night.
      I'm fortunate to live in an area that allows for us to be less vigilant about locking up.
      Of course I don't have a fear of someone taking my child.

      Waterville is a fairly small town, where the crime rate may be rather low. Perhaps the DiPietro's were not in the habit of locking their doors.



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    4. I was born and raised in Maine, my mother was born and raised in Maine, as was her mother and her mother. My parents check the doors every night to make sure they were locked. I check my doors every night (I've lived in Maine almost 60 years). Not every Mainer leaves their doors unlocked.

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    5. Well, if Justin was so worried about someone taking Ayla from him, then I would think a rational person would have seen to it that the house was locked.

      There were also two other babies in that house. Unlucky Ayla! She was left alone in a bedroom in an unlocked house (maybe, nobody seems to know) and not checked on for eight or ten house (depending on who is telling the story).

      Not Ayden and Gaby. Evidently, they were snug in bed with their mothers (and in Ayden's case also with Justin). Those two toddlers were not available for kidnapping. Only Ayla was suitably alone for the midnight abductor.

      Did Justin leave a message on the door: "Ayla alone.
      Take at your convenience."

      Now, let's hear it from all you good parents who never checked on your sick child, or one with a broken arm, for ten or twelve hours!

      Isn't that one of the defenses for Justin? "Well, I never checked on my child after I put her to bed because I didn't want to disturb her since she had such a hard time getting to sleep...blah, blah." Plus a dozen other lame stories which excuse the DiPietros for not seeing if Ayla was all right.

      That family and "guest" who want us to believe that a toddler sleeps twelve hours without crying out to be fed or changed or even just cuddled.

      Either they cared nothing about Ayla or her condition or the story is not believable.

      If Ayla had been truly "missing", and they cared a tuppence for her, they would all have been out in the neighborhood, knocking on doors, asking the neighbors for help while one of them awaited the arrival of LE.

      They still don't care about her condition. Ayla is still "missing" and we are to believe they think she is with a kidnapper; yet, they still express no fears for her safety and all of them cower like frightened rabbits and turn down any interview which would keep Ayla's name in the media.



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    6. "Did Justin leave a message on the door: "Ayla alone.
      Take at your convenience."
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      Yep, you got it.

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    7. Seriously? This argument is one of the ones that drives me off the wall. My daughter is 2 months younger than Ayla. If she was sleeping soundly when we went to bed, we left it as it was. MANY nights we don't lock the doors. My parents never locked the doors with us, they were unlocked and open 24 hours a day. I may shut my windows in the winter, but locking them seems like an extra step I never really care to take. My daughter also hates sleeping in anyones bed, with anyone else around. Maybe Ayla was this way? Maybe she moved so much she was always bumping Justin and waking herself up? This is the reason my daughter refuses to sleep in our bed. My son on the other hand, who is 2 years older, gets up in the night purposely to get in bed with me. Do I favor one child over the other because I let her sleep alone and he comes into my bed?!? Hell No. I wouldn't fight it if she tried. All children are different, even at 18 months old. All children have different preferences, all children behave differently. If someone could think for ONE minute that Ayla wasn't EXACTLY like another child they know, then they could see and understand maybe Ayla made these sleeping choices on her own. YES at 18 months. YES. It IS possible. There are LOTS of things possible, but there are many of you who choose to not SEE those possibilities.

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    8. Exactly, Katie. If you think about it, Ayla had been staying there for a bit (at least off & on, if not every night), and it was new to Ayden. It would make sense that he would sleep with his mum....along with every child being different and having different needs. I have multiple kids, and one of them was happiest as an infant if I laid her in her crib with her blanket and let her go to sleep on her own with no one in bed with her for naps or anything. At 17, she is still like that and always has been...she hates having friends in her bed at sleepovers, for instance. My other kids weren't/aren't like that at all.

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    9. Thank you Katie and Michelle. We are all individuals and have our own uniqueness, no matter what the age.

      signed:getrealpeople

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  24. If Justin thought someone still had Ayla, i.e., someone walked into their home in the middle of the night and grabbed her from a bed she doesn't normally sleep in, Justin would still be pleading for her return, he wouldn't just give up on the fact that she is out there. Now if he thought she was no longer with us I can understand him not pleading any longer.

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    1. Justin "would still be pleading for her return". Hmmm, did he ever plead for her return? I saw him make excuses for himself, but never saw him plead for Ayla's return.

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  25. IMO his dometic violence charge certainly proves his character. He has a problem when things don't go his way and then he tries to push things to go his way. Normal people don't push their ways on others, normal people walk away before they put their hands on someone else. I pray this is not what happened to poor innocent Ayla!

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    1. The true test of a person’s character is shown when he/she is pushed. Should you push back, or should you accept the fact that you are being pushed, and try and find out the reason and see if you can solve the problem without pushing? I choose the latter.

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    2. His character was proven as well when he asked those he impregnated to get abortions. He even offered to drive one to MA where they could do a late term abortion. Thank God neither of the ex's paid attention to his push for abortions. He never wanted any child, either before or after conception. His character was already define and his ex's know it.

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    3. ummm, there are a lot of people who make the decision to have an abortion. In most cases that is not an easy decision to make. That decision does NOT reflect one's character.

      I have no idea if Justin ask anyone to have an abortion.
      Like the women who have to make that decision, I don't see it as a character flaw for the male who suggest it might be the best course to take at that time in his life.

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    4. Well said, Anonymous1.

      There is nothing unusual or perverse about considering abortion when faced with an unwelcome pregnancy.

      What IS perverse is suggesting such consideration to be a character flaw.

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    5. even offering to drive to another state to get a late term abortion? If nothing, it proves he wanted NO children.

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    6. Lots of people want NO children.

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  26. It will be interesting to hear why Justin grabbed Courtney and pushed her. Could it have been she went to strike him and he grabbed her arm in a defensive move and pushed her back. or was there no provocation at all. Just wondering not an excuse.

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    1. I'll suspend judgement until Courtney tells her side of the story. Yeah, right.

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    2. I hope her side comes out in court, then we will know both sides hopefully.

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    3. add onto post above.
      My biggest hope is it will help us find Ayla

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    4. I've heard Courtney's side of the story. She contends that Justin did NOT strike her, it was NOT assault, and that it's unfortunate a police officer saw it that way. She stated that they were trying to talk through things, and it got heated and they both made mistakes. She told me it's hard when you love someone but your lives are just going in different directions in the moment. Can anyone blame her for that? I certainly cannot. Now, if Courtney has lied to me, we will see. But I think by now I could take what she says to me at face value, as it has all been proven to be truth along the way.

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    5. Thank you Katie.

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    6. Thanks for sharing Katie.

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    7. Katie...thank you for relaying this account.

      If true, I think it is safe to say that Courtney wasn't wired or otherwise playing a shill for LE.

      It sounds like the "lieutenant" who witnessed the incident may have overreacted.

      If the parties involved weren't Justin DiPietro and Courtney Roberts, would the outcome have been different (e.g. no arrest).

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    8. Katie, do you see any possibility that Courtney is helping the police and said what she did to you to keep in character with the role the police are having her play? Or do you think there's little or no chance of that?

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    9. If what the lieutenant witnessed is factual, it is assault whether Courtney wants to call it that or not. You do not have to strike someone for it to be assault. She wouldn't need to press charges, a member of LE witnessed it. Even if she didn't want him arrested he still would be since LE witnessed it. They may both have gotten out of hand, who knows, but it was Justin who was seen placing his hands on her in anger.

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    10. Dee...at least we both pepper our comments with the "if true/if factual" stipulation re: Katie's account.

      And I believe you and I both share a zero tolerance/no excuse stance when it comes to domestic violence.

      That said, IF Courtney says it wasn't an assault, and an officer says it was an assault, how to proceed?

      To make matters more convoluted, how can a no contact order be issued against Justin without Courtney's consent?

      Guess we'll find out more on Thursday unless the proceedings are closed.

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    11. A lot of couples have problems with a situation as severe as this, they end up splitting up. These two are young, and haven't been together that long. They are having difficulties, it's understandable! Most people aren't perfect!!!

      It wasn't like he was brandishing a knife, or something!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    12. Hey Mckee...Yeah, the thing that doesn't make sense with Courtney's version is the no contact clause. That sounds like something she'd have to insist on, doesn't it? I've never been on that situation so maybe someone who unfortunately has can clarify that.

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    13. OT Dee: I'm really bummed out to learn that you contributed to the most recent post on U4A. This attack on Courtney is speculation gone wild.

      I often don't agree with you, Dee, but for what it is worth, I have always maintained respect for you.

      The post is outrageous, reckless, and irresponsible.

      It serves no purpose but to inflict injury.

      It certainly doesn't help Ayla.

      Please tell me this is a misunderstanding.


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    14. For my part I was asked if it could be a possibility. Anything can be possible. Do I think she did. I answered I don't see how a mother could hurt another persons child and look at her own again . So no I don't think she did. I still hold to the feeling Ayla is alive. If answering the question I was asked bothers anyone I am sorry.

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    15. I didn't write or contribute to the post in any way other than being asked if I thought it was likely Courtney was responsible. My opinion, for what it's worth, was possible (as is anything) but not likely.

      For the record though, since we do know so little as absolute fact, I speculate and I do like the idea of going over things again and seeing the feasibility of different scenarios.

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    16. This is one of the reasons LE needs to have something for an update . Right now anything is possible. What ever happened with the James Graham case?

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    17. I'm just really pissed off that Courtney's social media messages dating back four years ago are in this post.

      I'm just really pissed off that MM cited gruesome cases to bolster her post.

      I'm sick and tired of all the fucking speculation of how Ayla may have died.

      And no...I'm not pissed at you, Dana.

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    18. I figured if you was you would tell me I wouldn't have to wonder. I just wanted you to know what I said. It is very tiring and frustrating going about keeping Aylas name out there in that way. That is the reason I am even trying to write posts. I wish there was away to do the job with out all the drama and keep people interested. I wish people would give some ideas for posts.

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    19. You're a hot-spit, Dana.

      I'll work on a post. I think Foil, Oaklandrez, Anonymous1, getrealpeople, Looking for the Facts, Michelle and others should rise to the call as well.

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    20. Thank you so very much mckeekitty your the best!!!!!!!

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    21. kitty, I have nothing new to say. Only questions and comments which I've already posted. Wish I did.

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    22. Katie, that's hearsay. If Courtney wants to say something, tell it to the media or she can tell us herself. I have to consider what you 'said she said' to be nothing at all.

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  27. Ya Im sure that is what it is . . . Self Defense. . . . He will probably use that when he finally gets arrested for Ayla to. . . Self Defense! Makes sense to me.

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    1. That doesn't make sense to me with Ayla, and it is only one option with Courtney, but it still doesn't excuse it. It could have just been a heated argument, and that's no excuse. Just looking for the reason it happened. My reason for looking could be wrong , I mean they sell 500,000 erasers a day someone must make mistakes. It may as well be me I have one.

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    2. Dana, have you ever lived with a controlling male? Justin is a classic case. He probably shoved Courtney because she wouldn't listen to what he wanted to say. Controlling men don't listen to women or talk to women, they talk AT them. Classic case of Justin's controlling nature in the "transcripts" of the text messages between him and Trista.

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    3. I never have lived with a controlling male. I prefer to live with my wife, and we discuss things without pushing each other around. If you have, I hope you moved on to someone less controlling, and in more of a partnership state of mind.

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    4. Dana, since you have never lived with a controlling male, I wouldn't expect you to totally get it. I no longer live with a controlling male, thank you. But, it's not easy for those who haven't experienced it to totally understand how a woman is undermined by the controller, made to feel unworthy. Controllers beat you down "mentally" so that you feel fortunate that they care about you, because lord knows they make you realize, no one else would care. The relationships with a controlling male are not easy to leave.

      People who really know Justin, his girlfriends, his sister and his mother know his characteristics. BTW, the controlling male is very good at fooling outsiders. Justin is a classic case.

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    5. I understand what you explained to me. Seems like they have the ability to cause their partner to have very low esteem. I do not know Justin or his family. From the other side I have seen a woman that treated her husband the same way. I didn't know them personally, but I didn't think people could be so disrespectful of their mate. It is a very sad situation. I just hope this is over soon and Ayla receives her Justice, and who ever is responsible for her disappearance pays for the pain they have caused.

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    6. You're making assumptions based on text messages that may or may not have come from Justin to Trista. That may or may not have been transcribed accurately. That may not have been transcribed in context.

      You're spot on in your description of controlling men. My sister was married to one,...and he never had me fooled.

      I'm not going to make a judgment on whether Justin is a controlling man based on a few text messages that I have no idea of their accuracy.

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    7. @anon 7:53: What about the texts shown from Trista?!!!

      signed:getrealpeople

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    8. Psssst....women can be controlling too. I've seen it. Many times.

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    9. Amen Michelle, never meant to sound like only men are controlling. But the behavior of a controlling individual is quite apparent in Justin.

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    10. Anonymous1, I'm not making the assumption based solely on the text messages, I'm using his behavior (that I've witnessed) and behavior that others have witnessed. I would not judge someone without, at least what I think, is enough evidence.

      Justin hiding behind Heidi and Angela, further proves the controlling behavior. Usually, they appear fearless to those they control, yet are usually totally gutless and allow others to protect them.

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  28. Some here,including Dana, think that Ayla is alive. If she is, how do you think Ayla is being treated by her abductor? I don't usually read much concern or worry about Ayla's fate from those who think she is alive.

    I ask this question because a child Ayla's age kidnapped by a pervert is not usually cared for as an adopted child. I think we are all aware of the fact that the child victim is usually used for sex,then killed and discarded.

    In other cases the child is kidnapped for purposes of making money in the highly profitable child prostitution or child pornorgraphy industries both which flourish world wide, as you know.

    I've never seen any concern among the "Ayla is Alive" posters how Ayla might be surviving as a victim of the scenarios above. I'm guessing, therefore, that few think Ayla's abduction was for the purposes mentioned above. If people here were worried about that, there would be more concern expressed over an alive Ayla in the hands of such criminal monsters.

    There used to be a popular opinion expressed among DiPietro defenders that Trista took Ayla. Understandably little concern for Ayla's health and safety were expressed because Ayla was thought to be okay with mom or her relatives, and, as Justin said, "getting used to her new surroundings" thinking "it was all a game."

    Now, it looks as if Trista does not have Ayla. Personally, I think LE had proved that early on, by not accusing Trista of anything, but that is just an opinion based on LE's media comments about Trista as contrasted with those LE comments regarding the DiPietros nd "guest".

    So if Ayla is alive, where is she? What kind of a person took her? Was she stalked by a psychotic person who just had to have a child and knew Ayla was sleeping alone that night?

    Did the kidnapper know that the doors were unlocked? Did the abductor know the floor plan of the simple little house and that Ayla's father would be sleeping in the basement, not with Ayla in his room, but with Courtney's child? How would Ayla be faring with such a kidnapper?

    Was there no abductor? Was Ayla "adopted out" by Justin to a nice family in need of a toddler because he thought Ayla would be better off with a more "together" parent than either he or Trista was shaping up to be?

    Perhaps that would explain why none of the DiPietro family and their close friends seem to express any worries that Ayla is, besides alive, also well and thriving.

    People here express outrage over the other camp believing Ayla is dead and charge them with being, not only insensitive, bute "bloodthirsty"!

    Yet these same people who insist that we can't even think that Ayla is dead, seem so reticent to express any worry over her fate in the hands of perhaps a criminal or psychotic abductor.

    Very like the position maintained all along by Justin, Elisha, Phoebe, Heidi, Derek, Angela and Lance: one of eye-popping ennui. From the "guest in the house and a mother of a toddler herself, we heard nada. A very caring stance, but about whom?

    I just wonder why that is.

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    1. I pray Ayla is alive and with a family member on the maternal side. If she is then she is being taken care of and shown love. If she was abducted by a non family member by a sick pervert as long as it has been chances are she is deceased that is my greatest fear.I cling to the chance she is alive, and want LE to not just look for a dead body but also look for clues that she is still with us. If there was an accident in the house and she died it will also come out, and there will be time for blame and name calling then. I think if the case was handled properly in the very beginning there would at least be a person of interest in 19 months. To say there is no suspects or persons of interest in that amount of time is either a lie or someone screwed up. I want to do all I can to keep Aylas name and face out there, I just don't think I have to accuse either side of the family of murder, or discuss gory details about it when LE won't even confirm or deny they happened. They had over 1,000 leads and nothing has changed in the case for 19 months.

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    2. P.S. add to above comment. I am very concerned and worried for Ayla. That is why I am here. I also am very sure that if she is still with us or not I will feel blame that I could have, and should have done more.

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    3. I think most everyone holds out hope for Ayla to be alive on U4A and J4A. If not it is senseless to put out flyers with her picture on them. It doesn't mean we are not concerned and if you don't know that I feel sorry for you.

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  29. Anonymous,

    I can't reply to your comment using the reply link as it doesn't always work for me so will reply here although it will eventually get moved down. I also would suggest reposting your comment onto the most recent post to get more exposure and more answers to your questions.

    The whole point is we don't know what happened to Ayla so we can't rule out the possibility that she was abducted either by a family member or someone else or even that she was alive when taken and isn't now or is still alive. Regardless of whether she died that night, died later, is alive but in a deplorable environment it is still awful period and just as concerning. The people commenting here and at the "other camp" all care quite a bit about Ayla no matter what they believe happened to her, they are all on these blogs more often than not and still check in to read and talk about her over a year and a half later.

    Some people feel more comfortable rehashing different scenarios that go more in depth than others but to say one side cares more than the other is ridiculous. The concern is expressed in making Ayla is alive posters, they tried to see about getting posters put up with Ayla's age enhanced to more accurately reflect what she might look like today in case she is alive so someone would be able to recognize her but Trista did not want either professional or amateur made posters distributed so her wishes were respected.

    I think anyone who thinks there is a chance she is still alive has not discounted the fact that likely if she is still alive chances are that she is in a horrible place with a horrible person but that is the job of the MSP to profile the type of person that may have her, not bloggers who come together to keep Ayla's name out there or for the people who pay money out of their own pockets to make and distribute awareness items and put up billboards. The public is limited to what we can do, we are not FBI agents, behavioral analysts, or law enforcement. We, as the public, can do very little in the grand scheme of things and that is keeping her name out there and keeping the public aware of her situation.

    If other people feel more useful discussing scenarios and causes of death then that is their right just many here do not find it helpful since it is likely LE has gone over these scenarios and have evidence to prove or disprove it, evidence that the public, even people in the public who have ties to others who are directly involved, do not have access to. Some, myself included, find it very graphic and disturbing. I also think discussing possible scenarios and conditions Ayla may be forced to be involved in also very graphic and disturbing although I do not discount the fact that it could possibly be a reality. It just isn't in my job description or pay grade to have to write about those things and it isn't something I would enjoy doing period.

    I do think that discounting ANY scenario even one of Ayla being alive and thriving is an injustice to Ayla since no one knows at this juncture what happened to her and to consistently focus on Ayla being dead when there could be someone out there that knows something and wants to tell but may be dissuaded from doing so because they second guess themselves because everyone else is convinced that Ayla is deceased so it must be a coincidence or a mistake on that person's part.

    I also find that the majority of people here are open to discussing ALL possibilities and no one has discouraged anyone from discussing theories that Ayla is deceased. Most here are undecided about what happened, no one has anything set in stone, even those who tend to think she is alive.

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