Wednesday, July 10, 2013

Do They Act Quick Enough?

Wednesday, July 10, 2013    Last update: 8:19 pm

Number of Maine children removed from abusive homes declines

Posted May 13, 2012, at 11:07 a.m.
PORTLAND, Maine — State figures show that the number of children removed from abusive homes in Maine has declined by more than 50 percent in the past decade.
The numbers have fallen as the Department of Health and Human Services pursued a policy of keeping children with parents unless they face physical abuse or serious neglect.
The Maine Sunday Telegram said the numbers mirror a national trend, supported by findings that children can suffer severe emotional trauma when separated from their families and placed in foster care.
But the newspaper also finds that the trend raises concerns about whether child welfare workers are acting quickly enough in cases where children are suffering or at risk of abuse.

115 comments:

  1. In my opinion you can never act to quickly when it comes to children being abused. Doctors and ER staff need to speak out at the first sign of abuse, DHHS needs to respond the same day as notified.

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  2. Dana, I think they often do respond quickly but it's the quality of the response that's the problem. I don't think "the system" is at all able to respond to manipulators and many abusers are extremely manipulative and know how to keep themselves from getting blamed. When women speak out against men abusing children (mentioned as the more common situation, not because the shoe is never on the other foot), their legitimate concerns are brushed aside as relationship issues, efforts to get a leg up in a custody dispute, etc.

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    1. I see your point about the women that speak up. The ones I don't understand are the women that are enablers, that to keep the man around turn a blind eye to the abuse.

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  3. Wow! What a discouraging headline.

    I'm sure DHHS is overwhelmed, understaffed, and underfunded. Perhaps even corrupt. There are just so many societal problems. Substance abuse, unemployment, poverty, domestic violence, mental illness, lack of education, etc. Bring a child into the mix and the situation is bound to further deteriorate.

    No easy answers.

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    1. I am also sure that there are a lot of staff who are just as frustrated as we are with the system. Their hands in many instances are tied, and they are not permitted to do their job effectively. Then it is the children that pay the price and sometimes with their life. No easy answers is the sad truth.

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  4. Looking At The FactsJuly 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    What is really sad is all the red tape you have to go through to adopt a pet but anyone can have a baby and bring it home. Laws need to be made tougher in this state for crimes against children. Take a look at the headlines. Child abusers and molesters are spending less than 5 years in prison only to get out and abuse again. They are caught again and still only spend a few years in jail. Not that i condone any crime but take a person caught with pot they get more time than a molester. Laws in this state and all states need to change. DHHS is overworked and the Governor an other officials just keep cutting funding to these agencies. For the workers it is like they are trying to bail out a boat of water with a teaspoon. There are also so many false reports that waste time and cause those that should be looked at not to be. The system is an absolute mess.

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  5. speaking from experienceJuly 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    False reports are one of the biggest issues. Someone gets a hair across the ass about someone else and makes a bogus report and wastes the time of the agency and ruins the lives of innocent people. Anonymous reporting should not be allowed in this state. If people had to own their words and actions you'd see a big difference in reports and the response.

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  6. I'm going to take a minute to "thank and applaud" all of our CPS workers.
    Their hours are long and their case loads heavy.

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  7. But, according to a national expert speaking Thursday in Orono, some doctors either don’t recognize the signs of abuse and neglect or are reluctant to report their suspicions to law enforcement or child protective authorities.

    This was from an article I read in the BDN

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  8. I wonder if Katie is going to comment on Justin DiPietro's arrest for domestic violence?

    Thanks.

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    1. For others: http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article/249781/3/Aylas-father-arrested-for-unrelated-domestic-violence-charges

      Portland, MAINE (NEWS CENTER) -- Justin DiPietro, the father of Ayla Reynolds, the little girl who disappeared from DiPietro's home nearly two years ago, was arrested last week on a charge of domestic violence.

      According to police records, officers were called to a home on Spring Street in Portland just after midnight on Sunday, July 7th. Not much is known about the specifics, only that DiPietro was arrested and charged with domestic violence assault. Police have not given us any information about the victim.

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    2. In response to Ayla's grandfather's arrest:

      John P June 7, 2013 at 3:37 PM

      We wre just letting people know that the incident with Lance was related to Ayla, while Ron's was not related to Ayla until someone here decided to make it that way. Thank you for asking though, I hope this helps.

      In response to Justin's arrest which is reported as not being related to Ayla's disappearance:

      John P July 14th:

      This post is being done to show the character of one of the original Waterville Three. Law Enforcement has said on multiple occasions that they “do not think they are telling all they know”. This is just another example, I believe, of why this statement by LE is true. It goes directly to show the pattern of character of Ayla’s father and his character alone.

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    3. John P: Police said in both cases that they aren't related to Ayla's disappearance. Why wasn't Ron's arrest a reflection of his character? Why is Justin's arrest related for you and Ron's isn't?

      Personally I think everything and one in this case stinks. I trust no one.

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    4. Looking At The FactsJuly 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM

      Totally agree Foil. John P has done nothing but make excuses for everyone on the maternal side from Trista's constant lies to Ron's arrest. All while he twists and analyses every word from the paternal family to make it mean what he wants it to mean and now the using an arrest to show Justin's character but Ron is forgiven because of the pain that he has endured. Give me a break. He accuses everyone who refuses to convict Justin in the public eye of being in love with Justin or helping his defense but really John is the one that defends everything the paternal family does. His obsession with Ayla is a little scary to me.

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    5. Looking, I am with you.

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    6. Does this really surprise anyone? Justin Dipietro shoving Ex-girlfriend? People who know the real Justin aren't surprised (oh, not the people who pretend to know him, like his support staff at TLLOM). Any ex-girlfriend of Justin knows his capability to be cruel.

      Justin, where is Ayla?

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  9. AnonymousJuly 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    I could comment on Justin's arrest until I am blue in the face, but it wouldn't do me any good. None of us were there when Justin had whatever altercation he had to lead to this arrest. None of us know if it was a simple fight that got out of control and reported by a neighbor or family member, or if it was a full blown brawl. None of us except Justin and whoever it was he fought with know.

    With that said, Courtney is single. Meaning Justin is single. Who is to say Justin didn't try to go smooth things over with her and their argument got heated. I have had arguments with my husband before that have gotten so heated that one of us breaks something, or hits the wall in anger. But never one another. I've been abused before, and my husband does NOT give off the feelings that my ex did (for those of you who were thinking the unimaginable).

    Now, if things were thrown or hit around someone, that could be considered assault, even if they were not hit with the object, just the fact that it came towards them. There's no "throwing objects in ones general direction" charge possible - just simply assault. That's what it is.

    Now, I'm not defending anyone. Any type of violence and assault is unacceptable. I'm certainly surprised, but not accepting, of Justin's charges here. No one deserves to feel unsafe and scared for their well being. But we are again seeing ONE SIDE of a story. It isn't very specific and doesn't give details. Unless details are discovered or released, I really have no more to say about it than anyone else.

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  10. Only one thing to say. My wife would know better than to call the police. I would hit her frying pan with my head so many times she would be dizzy. Sad that things like this happen and there are no excuses. As for the rest of the story we will have to wait and see.

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  11. For starters, I don't know the story as to what happened regarding Justin's assault charge and I do not condone violence so it is unsettling to me but it is no more unsettling than Ron's arrest actually it may be a tad less unsettling than Ron's arrest. In order for it to be a domestic violence charge, it has to be someone you are living with at the time. We know Ron was living with his wife Frankie so it is likely she was the victim of his assault. We don't know if Justin assaulted a male or a family only someone he was living with however we do know he isn't living with Courtney and it is safe to assume in my opinion that Courtney does not live on Spring St. In Portland since her family owned the house she lived in and if she broke up with Justin, why would she move out of her apartment in her family owned home instead of asking Justin to leave?

    According to a comment on U4A someone said they were able to trace the address to a relative of Justin's. it could be a male cousin or brother it doesn't necessarily have to be a female he is living with so they could have been drinking and got into a fight, he could have punched something or someone or thrown something. If I recall, Ron's incident stated he had brandished a knife. There are no details of Justin's incident to know if a weapon was involved.

    The same however could be applied to what was said about Ron to Justin's incident, the poor man fell off the wagon, so distraught over Ayla's disappearance.... I would think Justin would be just as distraught, since Ayla went missing on his watch, everyone thinks he was the culprit, and he just split up with Courtney. IF he is innocent and not responsible for Ayla's disappearance that would be quite a burden to bear.

    I don't know who is responsible for taking Ayla or what happened to her but I do know that neither side of the family deserves any damn awards. That poor baby was doomed the day she was born.

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    1. They are reporting that Justin assaulted his former girlfriend on Spring Street, apparently an officer witnessed Justin grabbing and shoving his former girlfriend. That can only mean Courtney, as it sure wasn't Trista. Get your facts straight before you start spouting off, as if anyone wants to hear your take on the issue.

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    2. Why read here then if you don't want to hear my take on the issue and kindly provide me with the link to where it is stated as being his ex girlfriend and what the officer witnessed,

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    3. Looking At The FactsJuly 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

      Tori
      I'm not sticking up for what Anonymous is saying but just trying to keep facts straight and there has been an updated article that says LE passing by saw Justin grab and shove his ex girlfriend. Here is a link

      http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article/249781/314/Aylas-father-arrested-on-unrelated-domestic-violence-charges

      I totally agree with what you said The same however could be applied to what was said about Ron to Justin's incident, the poor man fell off the wagon, so distraught over Ayla's disappearance.... I would think Justin would be just as distraught, since Ayla went missing on his watch, everyone thinks he was the culprit, and he just split up with Courtney. IF he is innocent and not responsible for Ayla's disappearance that would be quite a burden to bear.

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    4. You know, the media is butchering this story. Critical details differ depending upon the news source. This incident occurred over a week ago, not last night. There has been ample time for the media to present a unified and accurate account.

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    5. I for one am grateful we have some place other than u4a to discuss this. Thank you, Tori.

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    6. Thanks for posting the link, I hadn't seen the updated article.

      You are welcome Grace

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    7. McKee, You are missing some critical information. The media did not know Justin was arrested because the police apparently took certain steps to reduce the likelihood of their finding out. I don't know the whole story at this point but I have seen enough to be convinced this much is accurate.

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    8. Looking, the emotional burden on Justin might be even greater if he is guilty with respect to Ayla as he has to live every day in fear of being held accountable.

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    9. tori, the apologist for the Dipietro family, and local drug addict. We want our money from the Dipietro's and dont care who you think you know. Did you know that Brianna was co-operating with authorities about Justin's friends in Portland. The video doesn't lie! you hack!, and that goes for the rest of you with no life. Wait for Justin to be sentanced.It will be funny to see who signed the arrest complaint, and they must show in court. Get a life you bloggers, maybe Trista should talk about the Dec 13, when she went to get her kid, and justin followed her to portland...then return to make the phone call to report her missing. Bad choice dumb ass!Mr.Hanson and his daughter should just tell the truth.Maybe we should go ask Raymond in prison, if he was lied too.
      feel free to respond...

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    10. So what exactly are you saying anon 11:39? are you saying that Trista and Justin are in on it together? and Trista is hiding Ayla? that's what I took from that little rant of yours....

      Oaklandrez

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    11. CG,
      "the police apparently took certain steps to reduce the likelihood of their finding out"

      I'm not so sure about that. I do believe though that John got a little scoop from someone.

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    12. Anon 11:39...I'm at a loss. Your post is confusing.

      I'm particularly interested in this: "maybe Trista should talk about the Dec 13, when she went to get her kid, and justin followed her to portland...then return to make the phone call to report her missing."

      I can only hope you reported any information you might have to LE.

      Frankly, I don't trust you or your post.


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  12. http://www.ehow.com/list_7302970_maine-domestic-violence-laws.html

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  13. The crime is considered domestic violence assault if the action occurs between people who are currently married and living together, or have previously been married, or lived together as married. Domestic violence assault is classified as a Class D crime, punishable by up to one year in prison and a $2,000 fine. The charge becomes a Class C crime if the defendant has prior convictions of the same offense or related offenses, such as domestic stalking, threatening or terrorizing. A conviction of a Class C crime carries a sentence of up to five years imprisonment and a fine up to $5,000.

    Read more: http://www.ehow.com/list_7302970_maine-domestic-violence-laws.html#ixzz2Z86jVIXS

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  14. I find it most interesting that a LE lieutenant just happened to be passing by when this occurred. ..If that's accurate.

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    1. It's likely that they had been arguing and someone called the police and the LT witnessed it as they approached.

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  15. I agree Foil, it could have happened that way.
    The way it's written though, makes it seem like it happened by chance.
    "Police said he was taken into custody in the area of 88 Spring Street after a police lieutenant passing by saw him assault a woman".

    **An update to this article has DiPietro denying the charge.

    Read more: http://www.wmtw.com/news/maine/portland/father-of-missing-waterville-toddler-arrested-on-domestic-violence-charge/-/8865266/20980122/-/ba9jht/-/index.html#ixzz2Z8YPF8pf

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    1. Nothing happened. Yeah right. Police picking on poor Justin again?

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    2. Anonymous 1 yes it does read that way!



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  16. So much new information the last few days, my head is swirling!

    There is an on-going investigation by the Maine Bureau of Insurance into the Ayla Reynold's matter.

    Trista and Justin both turned down an opportunity to appear on Dr. Phil.

    Courtney and Justin split.

    Justin was arrested for assaulting Courtney.

    Did I miss anything?

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    1. Anon 2:47. where did you hear about an insurance investigation? Is there an article on that anywhere?

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  17. So much for protecting the identity of an alleged domestic assault victim:

    Court records show DiPietro was ordered after his arrest to have no contact with Courtney Roberts as a condition of bail. Roberts, who has lived on Spring Street, was at the house the night Reynolds disappeared, along with DiPietro's sister.

    http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Missing-Maine-toddlers-dad-faces-assault-charge-.html

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  18. Justin will answer for Justin's actions and I don't see anyone here defending him. The only thing anyone wants is for fair treatment of both sides. It is the only way Ayla will receive justice that she deserves. Justin, Ron, and Lance are all capable of defending their own actions, and no one but themselves are to blame for those actions. There are things going on within LE that are not passing the straight face test. I think some of these things that are suppose to be available to public access are being withheld. I feel McCausland needs to be held accountable to the people he works for, and we deserve answers.

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    1. McCausland is doing exactly what he is suppose to be doing, he's protecting an investigation and possible criminal case. He doesn't owe the public any explanation. There are no limitations on murder charges and he can take as long as it takes to get what he needs for a solid case. The person who needs to be held accountable is the person who killed Ayla and hid her body, then lied about it. That person needs to be held accountable and I'm sure that will happen...... eventually.

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    2. Anyone who had a hand in what happened to Ayla needs to be held accountable, both before and after the fact.

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    3. Well it sure doesn't take two years to have a person of interest and the only thing he is protecting is his backside. jmo

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  19. What I find most interesting about this is the fact that it took a week for the media to report this. Why so long?

    That coupled with the idea that the lieutenant just happen to see something between JD & CR.

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    I feel terrible for Ayla Bell. Sounds like she didn't have much of chance w/domestic violence on both sides & addiction issues (reportedly) on both sides.

    I hope this incident speeds up Justice for Ayla somehow.

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    1. The thing is LE kept it out of public records. I went to Cumberland County Arrest records last night and even put in the arrest docket number and nothing. Someone in LE emailed the info to U4A. They posted it so why the big secret to the rest of the public. The only way you could access the info was through U4A e mail they had received. At Cumberland site it listed July 1st to July 8th but only showed July 1st back to June 26. When you went to page 19 of 67 where Justins arrest was suppose to be listed nothing. Why were they trying to keep it secret???? LE doesn't pass the straight face test. Tell me they are not capable of lying it's what they do best. Yes hopefully Ayla will receive justice soon.

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    2. Let's hope it was because they've been busy interviewing Courtney and getting warrant's ready to arrest everyone involved.

      I have a dream...

      lol

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    3. Dana B-
      That is very interesting that LE purposely withheld that info. Especially after the arrest of Ron Reynolds was everywhere.

      Withholding that info must have served a purpose to LE. The question is what purpose?

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    4. I know it's very odd they would do something like that.

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  20. "Court records show DiPietro was ordered after his arrest to have no contact with Courtney Roberts as a condition of bail."
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    Did Courtney request and receive a restraining order?

    Did Courtney press charges against Justin?

    Were the police summoned as originally reported? If so, who initiated the call? Courtney? A neighbor? A concerned bystander?

    We only know the most salacious details...DiPietro was arrested for domestic assault when a police lieutenant passing by saw him assault Courtney.

    I don't have any faith that this incident is going to bust open the case.







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    1. I have lost all faith in LE. What kind of person is Courtney if she knew something happened to Ayla, and she didn't say anything until she had a fight with Justin?

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  21. was Courtney wired trying to record Justin? makes me go hmmmmm...

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    1. Bingo, Anon 6 am. That was my thought too, and that the cop was hanging around the area in case the situation flared up. When it did, he pounced as he was supposed to, to protect her.

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    2. Just a thought. But it could have been the other way around even could it not?

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  22. Does it anyone else find it odd that Jessica was arrested the day after Justin?

    http://www.cumberlandso.org

    Click on the media arrest log for July 8-15th

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    1. No, not odd. It was all for Failure to Appear, Failure to Pay Fines. No correlation and apparently Jessica is no stranger to being arrested.

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  23. http://www.portlanddailysun.me/index.php/newsx/local-news/9772-father-of-ayla-reynolds-arrested-on-domestic-violence-assault-charges-in-portland

    Apparently the lack of reporting was due to a technical glitch, Dana, and not on purpose.

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    1. Sorry whylee I was editing my response to you and deleted it , it took out your respose also. but to answer your question I didn't ask him. sorry

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    2. no worries, I thought maybe John P had taken over.

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    3. I didn't realize taking out my comment would take out your response too. Another lesson learned.lol

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  24. And comments disappeared why?

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    1. I am new at this and can't get it back again.I just thought it strange I couldn't get the same info the night JP did.

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    2. Nothing surprises me with this case anymore..

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    3. Really some things going on here. I hope someone can figure them out soon.

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  25. Anon/Dee; Not that it matters, but Jessica's records were not updated after she served community service towards these fines. She of course was released.

    ..and Wylee, you have not seen anything yet...

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    1. Like I said Jeff, imo, no correlation between the two arrests. But thanks for clarifying why it happened and the outcome. My comment came out sounding snarky toward Jessica and I didn't mean it that way, sorry.

      Jeff, you said at one point I'd be surprised to hear what you thought about some of the Dipietro's. You also said Justin may be guilty of nothing more than bad parenting. Do you still feel that way? Do you think someone other than Justin may be guilty of causing Ayla's "disappearance"?

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    2. I've seen more than I care to, Jeff. Way more. Unfortunately, Ayla is not the first child I have read about go "missing", and she probably won't be the last. As some of your readers have reflected today, it's becoming an epidemic.

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    3. P.S.

      It matters. Everyone matters. Even Jessica.

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  26. Dee; I don't think Justin's arrest proves anything in Ayla's case (except maybe his alleged response to his arrest), but even you can agree that an opportunity has opened up for LE.

    As far as your last question.. I still have reasonable doubt... not because of the amount of Ayla's blood found in his room, but because MSP has not arrested him for it.

    We will let the public decide by releasing the "unequivocal evidence".. before the summer is out..

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    1. Why wait? No time like the present..

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    2. Jeff I think you will have to release it as I said I have lost faith in LE releasing anything to do with this case. I just hope Ayla receives justice soon.

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    3. "We will let the public decide by releasing the "unequivocal evidence".. before the summer is out.."
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      Is this a game to you, Jeff?

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    4. I think this is an opportunity that LE needs to take advantage of in any way they can. I think this current arrest may (maybe) show there's a propensity toward violence when frustrated.
      As far as LE, is it LE or is it the Prosecutor who's not willing to move? I'm tired of MSP being so tight lipped.
      I'm interested to hear the evidence you'll release, but afraid to hear it also.

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    5. Answers For Ayla,

      You ask me a serious question before, now I'd like to ask a couple of you.

      Are you no longer concerned about jeopardizing the case?
      I thought MSP ask that Trista not reveal the details concerning the "unequivocal evidence", so as not to jeopardize the case? (or has that changed)
      What about the NDA?
      Have you grown weary because of MSP inaction?

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    6. Anon1...it appears Jeff left the building. He is known to do this. He has a "hit-and-run" history, especially when challenged.

      Oh well.

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    7. "We will let the public decide by releasing the "unequivocal evidence".. before the summer is out.."

      Jeff this almost sounds like the release of a book. Why the seemingly arbitrary date of "before the summer is out?" Do you not want to waste precious time at the beach?

      If you know something that MSP knows and it's "unequivocal," why aren't you pursuing a case against MSP?

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  27. Jeff, Here is where I have trouble with reasonable doubt. A lot of the blood was in his bedroom by his bed. There is no reasonable scenario under which it could have got there and gotten cleaned and Ayla disappeared without him knowing. Whether he did it or not, it seems inconceivable he doesn't know what happened.

    Per your earlier reports, he says he was with Ayla that afternoon. He says he only left the house that evening to get wine. Then he was in that house again all night until the morning when Ayla was suddenly "missing." What scenario can you think of in which a toddler could somehow be fatally or near-fatally injured, bleed-out, be removed from the premises, and all the blood cleaned without his knowing? I think the logic kills the reasonable doubt on his knowing what happened to her, and all the evidence seems to point right at him. JMO, but unless you want to say he is lying about all the details to cover up for someone else, his own account of what happened leaves no time for anyone else to have harmed Ayla.

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  28. Wylee; Trista's call not mine

    CG; Correct, that is what Justin told LE, yet his neighbors say there way a party. Who is covering up and for whom?

    Bottom line: I believe Justin knows what happened to Ayla and is guilty, but at what level? All the state's evidence points to murder.

    So the question remains, how can someone have this much blood in their basement and not be guilty? ..and it does not look like an accident to me.. but we will let the public decide if MSP does not release it before Trista does... anyway, I'm out.

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  29. "All the state's evidence points to murder."

    Those be bold words, Jeff.



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  30. It's like an invisible hurricane struck.


    Looking backwards I notice...

    A. A certainty the body will not be recovered.
    B. An unnatural partnership between Derek and Justin.
    C. A complete lack of remorse as if they believe its not their fault

    If an accident occurred in the basement, the refusal to summon help would be chargeable as some level of aggravated child neglect maybe voluntary manslaughter.

    I don't envy the partnership between Derek and Justin, the whole American celebrity villain circus and the audiences long suffering patient expectation for the closing acts denouement and a turning of the final page.

    Justin's definitely got the Mephistopheles beard thing going on for his mug shot updates pretty good though, but news on his alibi cohort Derek are very scarce and sketchy.

    Can the partners stick it out for the next fifty years?

    Tick tick tick tick...

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  31. Anon 10:23; Your assumptions are correct.

    mckeekitty; I'm not trying to be cryptic, we have told you all along that more than a cup of Ayla's blood was found in Justin's basement. We will only be telling you where and how now.

    As soon as Trista is back on her feet (she is due next week), We will release the findings for her.. to the blogs and to the press.

    The Maine State Police, the Governor of Maine and the Attorney General will be directly aware of this release and intent to do so. All in the hopes of justice for Ayla.. We are done waiting.



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  32. Jeff-

    I think you all have waited long enough for justice for Ayla.

    I can't blame Trista one bit for wanting to release information. I have lost my patience with LE. I can't fathom how Trista must feel.

    Best wishes to Trista in the birth of her baby girl? boy? And a hearty congratulations to her.

    I'm hoping this baby can bring just bit of healing for her. I hope that somehow she finds the peace & strength to do all the things life is asking of her.

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  33. Jeff-By the end of summer you will release this information. This just sickens me. Several people have hung in here daily, pushing for Justice for Ayla. While you skip in and out with cryptic messages! You are truly sickening! Drama! Drama! Drama! What a sad excuse for a Stepdad you are! If you are so great, you would have been there for Trista and Little Ayla-BEFORE any of this ever happened! Where was your support then! YOU KNOW WHERE YOU CAB PUT YOUR CRYPTIC MESSAGES!

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    1. Anon 9:18; I think you meant to say "you know where you CAN put your cryptic messages". Unless of course, I'm to take a cab there..

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  34. It is very annoying that Jeff comes and goes like the wind, and every time he comes he brings yet another cryptic message or threatens to release more damning information...and every time he goes it tosses all of us that post here and elsewhere into a frenzy of fighting amongst ourselves (or with other blogs). I say release the info or don't...just stop putting the rest of us through your funhouse ride...I realize the family has been through quite a bit, all things I wouldn't like to go through or deal with, but those of us that are here, are here for Ayla....we are not here for all the games that have been played on both sides

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  35. And you also notice he doesn't comment now! Sickening! This is not a GAME! This is about Ayla. People really care and search these pages everyday for any news----- not "OH Wait" I Know something you don't know! Shut up Jeff! Or SPEAK NOW FOR AYLA!

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  36. We are all here for Justice for Ayla.

    I think what Jeff successfully did was let LE know what there plans are in order to get the ball rolling for Justice.

    19 MONTHS is long enough. I can't blame them for what they're doing. Trista knows the real story from LE. Trista is her mother. She will know when & how to handle things for Ayla.

    We don't know all the details.

    It's easy for me to be impatient in all of this. But with time - the truth will come out & Ayla will get justice at some point.

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  37. ChickenLittle; Thank you, and to answer your question, the baby's name is Anthony.

    Oaklandrez; I'm not here to coddle you, get someone else to hold your hand.

    Anon 10:41; I think you mean speak for you and I will not do that.

    Anon 12:02; Exactly, We are hoping that MSP will release the blood evidence, but ultimately Ayla is Trista's daughter and I will release it when she is ready to deal with the onslaught and aftermath of press that will follow.

    We are not alone in this information. There are other people within these blogs who have been told the whole story and to their credit they have not released any of it.

    As for me, let me be perfectly clear, I do not have any secret knowledge or insights into Ayla's case, for the most part, I have only been the messenger. There are others within these blogs (J4A and U4A) that know more than I do about the case for Ayla.

    I'm still trying to make sense of the senselessness and I am not here to appease anyone. Admittedly, I have been sidetracked in the past, but answers for Ayla has always been the goal, and if I have offended anyone in the process.. well, tough titty.. (not sure if that's just a Mainer's saying or not).

    Anyway, we will take the case for Ayla to the public. ..when Trista is ready. That's all I have to say.


    Sorry, not all of that was directed at you Anon 12:02

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    1. "We are not alone in this information. There are other people within these blogs who have been told the whole story and to their credit they have not released any of it."

      So now I trust no one *plus*. So we're being played by bloggers.

      "As for me, let me be perfectly clear, I do not have any secret knowledge or insights into Ayla's case, for the most part, I have only been the messenger."

      Yes you do. You stated you have "unequivocal evidence."

      Good-bye blogs and psychotic rants.

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    2. Jeff, I most certainly did not ask you to coddle me or anyone else for that matter. I don't need nor did I ask for anyone to hold my hand....I merely stated that you breeze in and out with cryptic messages that put the rest of us up in arms, feeling like we are being pawns in your games with Justin and LE. To put it in simple terms, you can keep your bullshit to yourself. We that come here every single day to find a small tidbit of information and for you to tease info is a huge slap in the face. I'm not here to watch a soap opera. Either release info or don't but don't dangle the proverbial carrot....get it?

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  38. Im confused, Jeff.

    You say you are hoping that LE will release the evidence?

    So this is merely a ploy to get them to do it?

    And how do you think they will react to that kind of blackmail?

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  39. "There are others within these blogs (J4A and U4A) that know more than I do about the case for Ayla."
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    How is this possible, Jeff?

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    1. Did you read John P's deflection?

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    2. Yes I read his deflection. Pathetic. Disgusted with almost everyone except for kitty and other long term commenters.

      Tori? Katie? What is Jeff talking about? are you in on it, too?

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    3. Wow! Reminds me of John's insistence that he never received Jeff's memo that LE was going to declare Ayla dead.

      Of all memos to go into John's spam file...

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    4. I could understand if Jeff had just said "others", you would think Trista might confide in her parents, siblings, perhaps her boyfriend, but to blatantly say "bloggers" really makes you wonder what kind of games they are playing over at the Reynolds camp.

      Trista works with the police. Trista signed a non-disclosure. More bullshit? I'm starting to think so. In fact, I think they have treated Trista like every other person in this case, I mean, they certainly haven't cleared her (except through John P and Jeff).

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    5. MM said:

      *** McKee I can only speak for U4A but Jeff was referring to John and I remembering specific dates, times, locations, links etc. “about Ayla’s case”. Not necessarily what happened to Ayla. Because of the research we do for our posts (probably Tori too) we’re more familiar with those things.

      I spit my coke out on my laptop.

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    6. I think the most irritating part is being chastised or condescended to by Jeff....

      Oaklandrez

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    7. Oak,
      Don't let Jeff irritate you. He is absolutely no better than you, or anyone else.

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    8. Laugh it off, Oak. I sure did!

      Consider the source...Mr. "Tough Titty" Hanson.

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    9. MM...since you know what Jeff is referring to can you please explain this: "There are other people within these blogs who have been told the whole story and to their credit they have not released any of it."
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      What an odd comment to make, don't you think MM? I mean, how would Jeff know this?

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    10. Thank you anon1 and McKee for the pep talk...Mckee you crack me up....Mr "tough titty" Hanson appears to be angry because his soon to be "revelations" are not being met with the same enthusiasm as his previous releases of information and he chooses to take it out on those of us that call him out on his carrot dangling tactics.....it's sad that the Reynolds side feel they have to resort to black mailing LE (which is essentially what the threatening of releasing this information is) to get the desired results....maybe they could try a more straightforward approach, like confronting Mr McCausland or the DA with their own lawyer or try some other technique that doesn't involve the yo-yo of emotions for the rest of us, or the childish "I know something you don't know" approach that tends to piss us all off....

      Oaklandrez

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    11. Foil,

      I can only speak for myself, but I have absolutely NO idea what Jeff speaks of. Jeff and I have spoken a handful of times, mostly all at least 6 months ago or more. I have e-mailed him recently but I have gotten zero response.

      I wish I had answers. I wish I knew what they "know", but I don't and that is somewhat unsettling for me as well. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

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    12. Thanks, Katie. Good to know!

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  40. Good grief. Sounds like there is a scramble for damage control underway.

    Someone is leaking critical information.

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  41. Foil,

    I took what Jeff meant by bloggers knowing more than he or the public as we have investigated info on our own through anonymous tips or people we knew who knew others close to someone tied to the investigation for example my knowing Justin was in Portland the day prior to Ayla being reported missing. I know only what has been told to me and can vouch that Katie also only knows what is being told to her. Our job is then to soft through the bullshit and see if we can corroborate the info. Previously, I corroborated what I could and ran with the rest. I have refused to do things that way this time because I saw the chaos I caused and put people under fire that didn't necessarily deserve it but got ran through the mud because they had some sort of association with Justin or someone close to him.

    I can only promise there is no conspiracy here, at least as far as this blog goes. I am however privy to the info Jeff is talking about being released by Trista at the end of the summer but I have not posted it because if the info is true LE has not released it for a reason and I do not want to hinder their investigation and secondly if it is true, I feel it would have a bigger impact if LE released that info since many are skeptical of Trista and Jeff. I do trust Jeff and any info he has directly gotten from LE, I don't trust secondhand info to Jeff from Trista.

    Sorry this response wasn't under your comment, I responded via email.

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    1. Tori, how are you privy to the "unequivocal evidence" if Trista signed a non-disclosure form, which means she can't tell, and she was asked/told not to by MSP?

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    2. Looking At The FactsJuly 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

      I would watch who you trust remember no one has been ruled out and no one has been named a suspect or person of interest. I have no inside info and have done much research on my own. I look at who was the most pissed off Ayla was with Justin? Who has the resources to take her and hide her. I'm not pointing fingers just know what assuming anything can do.

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    3. The last meeting Trista and Jeff had with MSP back in Feb. I believe, LE updated them on the case and what they had or thought happened and why. Jeff asked if this info could be released publicly, if I remember correctly LE stated that they would prefer that they did not release the info at this time but that they could not stop them. As far as I know the NDA did not apply to this meeting. That is all I know what I was told by Jeff on the phone a few hours after the meeting. I was not at the meeting so I am not privy to what was actually said only what I was told after the fact by Jeff. Because it cannot be confirmed is another reason I have not ran with the info

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    4. Looking said-
      "I would watch who you trust"

      Great advice Looking!!!
      People leaking little tid-bits here and there have a reason for doing so.
      I'm very cautious when considering those tid-bits and the reasons.

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    5. "People leaking little tid-bits here and there have a reason for doing so."

      Good point Anon1

      "I would watch who you trust remember no one has been ruled out and no one has been named a suspect or person of interest."

      also good point Looking

      Hell watch the ID channel for awhile....stranger things than what has happened in this case (so far, at least) have happened....

      Oaklandrez

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    6. Thank you for responding and clarifying, Tori.

      When you state: "I have not posted it because if the info is true LE has not released it for a reason and I do not want to hinder their investigation and secondly if it is true, I feel it would have a bigger impact if LE released that info since many are skeptical of Trista and Jeff. I do trust Jeff and any info he has directly gotten from LE, I don't trust secondhand info to Jeff from Trista."

      Will you then prohibit Jeff from posting his "press release" here on your blog? How will you know if MSP are OK with it unless they tell you directly?

      TIA.

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