Sunday, June 2, 2013

James Graham - Random Act

graham mug.jpgOn May 22nd James Graham was arrested and subsequently charged with attempted kidnapping and assault. On May 29th I received this anonymous tip from Ayla's Website:

"has anyone made a connection between James Graham and Ayla? I heard he used to hang with Justin and was in town...."

John P. did some research and (with some help from friends) found that James Graham's brother, Scott Graham, went to Waterville High School with Lance and Justin Dipietro. John P. also uncovered Facebook friend associations linking the Graham's to Elisha, Lance, Justin and Courtney Roberts.

James Graham had also lived in the Waterville area and graduated from Waterville High School. In response to my inquiry, a lead detective on Ayla's case informed me: "...to date, there is no information connecting Graham with the Ayla’s case" and the State Police has told the Associated Press/Media outlets that the recent incident with Graham was a "random act".

To say nothing of criminal profiling, how many "random acts" against children has James Graham committed? Where was Graham on December 17th 2011? Was he "in town" as the anonymous tipster suggested? Had James Graham been to the Dipietro’s house? Had he met Ayla or was he shown photos of Ayla?

In any case, an implied kidnapping scenario of Ayla does not account for the scheme of blood found on the Dipietro’s property, but there are too many coincidences to ignore and I believe it deserves a closer look. Maybe the time is right for the Dipietro’s and/or supporters to be a part of the solution..

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  1. I had already posted that on Justice for Alya Facebook page. I know the police have to check all leads so hopefully they will rule him out or indict him for. It may give false hope but would be great if this was the answer everyone has been holding out for. It seems to easy to say it is him but prays may be answered.

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  2. Anon 9:31; I've given up on Facebook (no time for it really).. What did you post? Any new developments?

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    1. If you looked into this person at one time then I can see why you stated earlier. (Justin may be only guilty of being a poor parent) There is just so little information for people outside of the families to work with. I don't mean this to be taken as a slam to either side. Thank you for the post it gives more food for thought.

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    2. Dana B; That statement is still true today, but I had no idea who James Graham was until I received the tip off the website.. and later the news broadcast.

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    3. Thank you for reporting on it. I now can say you are not close minded on the case. It seemed in the beginning everyone was. If I misread you I apologize. When you stated before you were going to do a post about your statement I thought this was the one you were referring to.

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    4. If this guy was in the home, and thinking he was helping someone by taking Ayla. The statement Justin made about someone thinking they were right in taking her, could make sense. I know it is a long shot, but they could be getting closer to knowing what happened. I pray there are answers soon.

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  3. Wow. Maybe this the other shoe that needed to drop.

    I'm really hoping that this somehow provides info on Ayla's case.

    This is a very interesting development.

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    1. I hope that someone really looks into this. I know it doesn't answer the blood in the home, but even if he had nothing to do with her disappearing, maybe he knows something about it.

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    2. I know all of us surrounding this case and many others are hopeful this is that proverbial shoe we've been hoping for day after day for the last year and a half. But right now, all we can do is continue to hope and pray. Yes, James had many many ties to Waterville. He was 5 years ahead of myself and Justin in high school, and his brother was just a few years older than him. They came from a normal, everyday family, and participated in sporting events and had many friends. This is a tragic turn for such a bright young man, and hopefully if it is connected, it is figured out quickly. I'm still hopeful that the quietness of the those working on THIS attempted kidnapping case, is because they are trying to make connections.

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  4. I do not know anything sorry. This was just a gut feeling and nothing more. As someone that thinks logicly (sorry for spelling errors, I am thinking this is too strange for this guy to do this random and also be from the same town as your Ayla went missing. This may be false hope but I know your family prays for any hope at this point. I wish I knew more, but like many I pray that all of this comes to a end and yall find your answers. I posted the story on Justice for Ayla facebook page and then just made a comment on there that was too strange to not be look at for this guy is from Waterville. I do not know of any connection between him and anyone from either family. I pray that this is the answers for Ayla that you are looking for but if it is not, do not give as I know you will not. here is someone out know that knows something and there will be answers. May they find the strenght to give them to the police or anyone that will listen. There is hope.

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  5. If this guy is familiar with the Dipietros and the house this makes it a possibility that there really was a kidnapping. As far as the blood in the basement, there has been no corroboration from MSP as to the actual quantity of blood.

    Oaklandrez

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    1. Oaklandrez said..."As far as the blood in the basement, there has been no corroboration from MSP as to the actual quantity of blood."

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      Oaklandrez...There has been no corroboration from MSP as to pretty much anything! I, for one, am sick of the silence from them. They need to release something - the 911 calls, verify the amount of blood, identify or else clear Trista as a suspect, identify or clear Justin as a POI, release some of the evidence gathered. I wish Maine was a sunshine state like Fl. The total lockdown on information by/from MSP is beginning to make me think they might have botched this investigation.

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    2. Honestly Dee the lack of corroboration from MSP on all the "evidence" that has been spoken of on the blogs have made me really wonder if there really has been a death. How do we know....we don't. Until they find remains I will hold on tightly to the belief that Ayla is still out there, alive and well. I really believe that there is A LOT more involved in this case that we don't know about and we will all be shocked as to the extent of how much we haven't been told when everything comes out....

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    3. I agree totally there is way more involved in this case. They very well could have messed the investigation up from day one, and just hoping they stumble on to the solution. The way they are silent they don't know if Trista is involved or Justin they won't clear either one.

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    4. I wonder why it took more than a week to report this story.

      It will be interesting to learn more about Mr. Graham in the days to come.

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    5. For all we know this guy thought he was doing them a favor by taking Ayla and they covered for him because he was a friend. I have very little faith in the things I have read on all of the blogs and news sites, just based on what was initially in the media about the whole Nicole Cable case. LE does not show all their cards, nor are the cards they show necessarily the cards they actually have, sometimes what they show is purposefully misleading. So I take the "evidence" leaked on the blogs with a grain of salt until it is backed by LE. Until an arrest is made, they are all under suspicion as far as I am concerned.

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    6. I'm not even going to make the assumption that James Graham is a friend of the DiPietro's.
      Not from an anonymous tip on a website...that *heard* he use to hang with Justin.

      Waterville, a population of 15,000, is a small town by my standards, so yes, I'm sure they have heard of one another, and attended the same school. How many public high schools are in Waterville? Probably just the one.
      They may know one another, that doesn't mean that they are friends.
      Being listed as a friend on FB doesn't mean much.

      I'm with you Oaklandrez, I take all so called evidence leaked on blogs with a grain of salt.

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  6. If I remember correctly didn't LE say they had sent a team to NH in the early stages?

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    1. I don't remember when or where but I do remember hearing about LE searching in New Hampshire.

      I wish I could remember more at this point!

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    2. ChickenLittle.

      The last update press conference McClausland named two remote areas that were recently searched -- one was an area in New Hampshire.

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  7. Anon1 2:43; You missed the point completely, there is no "so called evidence" in this post.. only the search for truth. For example:

    Excerpt from: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Father-friends-say-its-possible-cops-say-no-way.html?pagenum=full

    "Investigators say a kidnapping did not happen, but Darrell, Heidi and Derek Tudela and DiPietro said they believe Ayla is alive somewhere, and if public opinion grows to exclude that possibility, they believe an abductor could eventually hide the toddler in plain sight".

    Now I ask you sincerely, where is the truth in this statement? where is Ayla?

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    1. Answers For Ayla,

      My reference to "so called evidence" was not really concerning this particular post. More so, about all the "so called evidence" I've read on blogs for the last 15 months. No, I don't think I've missed anything. I understand you are seeking the truth. I just don't agree with the way it is done sometimes. Nor do I trust 2/3 of the "so called evidence" leaked on blogs.

      As to your question concerning the above statement, I wish I knew where the truth is, I don't.
      I understand the sentiment of the Tudela's, I share it.


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    2. No offense Jeff, but I reserve the right to believe ONLY what the MSP or any LE has released vs the things "released" on blogs that LE has NOT corroborated. I agree with Anon 1. If police haven't said it or confirmed it, it cannot factor into my logical conclusions. I refuse to convict someone of killing or harming a child based on speculation.

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    3. Well said Anon1.. Oaklandrez, by that reasoning you only believe that "a kidnapping did not take place".. So I ask you the same question.. Where is Ayla?

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    4. Jeff you know she could have been taken with both sides permission, and then they try to make it look like a kidnapping. That's just why I say no free passes for either side of the family.

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    5. I say, no free passes for those that harmed Ayla. Innocent people don't need free passes. Talk Justin, it's time to tell the truth.

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    6. If relying only on what police say (paraphrased):
      it was not a kidnapping
      Ayla is most likely dead
      Justin DiPietro, Elisha DiPietro, and Courtney Roberts know more than they're telling about what happened to Ayla
      there was substantial amount of Ayla's blood in DiPietro's
      house

      How does any of this point to a conspiracy by members of both sides of the family to give Ayla away to somebody?

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    7. Jeff, I have no idea where Ayla is, neither do you...my point is Justin and company have been tried and convicted in a court of public opinion based on the speculation of others, not on evidence or fact. I'm not saying that nothing happened I'm saying that we truly do not know what happened as NONE of us writing opinions on this or any other blog were there. When the police or courts indite someone and a trial ensues and someone is convicted of a crime based on facts then we will all know what actually happened. I refuse to convict or tear EITHER family apart based on public opinion and "evidence" that MSP or Wtvl PD or any other LE has not confirmed as fact....I believe anything is possible at this point....


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    8. When I consider the few things that MSP has released, ..and I think it is important NOT to paraphrase what they have said,..it doesn't help me determine what has happened to Ayla.

      MSP doesn't "believe" a kidnapping happened, We have no evidence of a kidnapping.
      Without evidence, I understand why they "believe" a kidnapping didn't happen.
      However, I can't help to think that absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.
      I'd have to know a lot more about why they "believe" a kidnapping didn't happen,..which I don't at present.

      We "believe" it is highly unlikely Ayla will be "found" alive.
      MSP does NOT say Ayla is dead.
      If she was kidnapped, how likely is it she will be found alive??

      MSP does not "believe" that the 3 people in the home that night are telling everything they know.
      This doesn't help me.

      MSP reveal that there was blood found in the DiPietro home, "some" of it belonged to Ayla. More testing is being done.
      MSP never reveal an amount to the public.

      When I think about it, there is really only 1 fact of evidence revealed, "some" of Ayla's blood was found in the DiPietro home.



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    9. Another well stated comment Anon1.....apparently there are some of us that can look at things in an un-biased light where some of us cannot. At one point I was one of the many members of the Dipietro lynch mob until I had a conversation with a very good friend of mine that works with one of the family members. This friends shared with me how they felt and why. Because I respect and value this person I took some time to reflect and re-read the news articles and tried to look at this entire case in an un-biased light and realized that the so-called evidence in this case is just that, so-called. I was guilty of judging a family based on speculation and rumors, like so many others.


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  8. Its very obvious to me by what LE and MSP have said that they do not believe the Dips are being 100% truthful with them. . . that in itself is enough to make me wonder how a father, grandmother, aunt, uncle could not be 100% truthful about a missing baby! It disgusts me to this day to think that they hold the key to finding this precious baby who did nothing but try to please these idiots from day one. Sorry I had to vent. I have been quiet for some time and I just had to vent. Not a day goes by that I do not think of this child. I live close in a neighboring town and I am constantly wondering when I drive by water, woods, etc. if Ayla could possibly be there. I live on water and it haunts me daily! How dare they keep information from the people trying to find out what happened to this poor child. She deserves to be found!!!!! WHERE IS AYLA JUSTIN??????

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    1. To bad both sides couldn't have thought of Ayla instead of drugs and partying all the time.

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    2. I agree anon 12:50PM. Where is Ayla, Justin? Why don't you do the right thing and tell the truth about what happened and where she has been hidden? We will never stop asking the questions and the LE will never stop trying to solve this crime. There are no limitations on murder. One day the truth will be known. Why not tell it now?

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  9. Ayla's grandfather arrested click here

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    1. Alcohol and anger don't mix. It's that simple. It happens. It happens to good people, it happens to bad people. Nothing amazing about it.

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    2. Not all drunk ppl threaten others with a knife and need to be tasered.

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    3. And Ron told Robert Fornier to keep driving towards Machaisport the morning Ayla was reported missing. Let Trista sleep. I got that right?

      Interesting find, Foil.

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    4. anon 7:59 maybe the family isn't amazing to you. It is amazingly stupid of them if you ask me. I don't think Ayla was safe with either side the poor kid just never stood a chance. This is the same guy JP said was on the news crying about no place to go to pay respects to Ayla. I guess a jail cell is as good a place as any.

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    5. Dana B

      Absolutely uncalled for and totally disrespectful. My comment was respectful to you when I told you of the grief Ron showed on the video. To turn it this way is totally disrespectful, undermining of the grief shown in the video and absolutely heartless. I hope you can live with yourself, non-judgemental you say?

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    6. John you are one of the most disrespectful people I have heard of, but I don't take offense to anything you say. I can live with myself just fine.I just don't believe using grief as an excuse to go after a family member with a knife drunk or sober.

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    7. I would hope my disrespect is not offensive to you, because until now I have been nothing but respectful to you except when your words justify my disrespect. This is one of those case. I prefer to maintain my disrespect for those that disrespect Ayla, in this case you have done that, so you have earned my disrespect. I will not condone Ron's actions nor have I, but I will not condone your words bringing sweet Ayla Bell's memory into this ignorance!

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    8. Dana B.,
      Your words: "This is the same guy JP said was on the news crying about no place to go to pay respects to Ayla. I guess a jail cell is as good a place as any," are absolutely disrespectful and uncalled for--period.

      Those words are not in alignment with your defensive response: "I simply pointed out the fact one side is no different than the other, they both have problems be it drugs ,or alcohol."

      I feel nothing but empathy and compassion towards Ronald Reynolds regarding the loss of his granddaughter. His pain and frustration is palpable in every interview I have seen of him. His recent altercation has absolutely no bearing on Ayla's care in the Reynolds' home or her disappearance.

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    9. You have every right to your opinion. I accept your opinion.The part I was expressing jail was as good as any was because that is where he wound up for threatening a family member with a knife.They both have problems I guess with alcohol or drugs. Thus one side is no different than the other no one is perfect. You can point your finger at me for being disrespectful if you like but you have three more pointing back at yourself. IMO

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    10. I just noticed this reply to my post: "You can point your finger at me for being disrespectful if you like but you have three more pointing back at yourself. IMO." Did I miss something? Please show me where I have been disrespectful to you or anyone else for that matter, Dana B.

      Also, who are you referring to here: "They both have problems I guess with alcohol or drugs. Thus one side is no different than the other no one is perfect."

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  10. That's a little cruel Dana, Ronnie Sr. is a nice guy who had over 20 years sobriety. You have no idea of the devastation that this tragedy has done to the Reynolds family. Your only recourse is that they deserved it.

    I often wonder how other people would stand up to similar conditions... I doubt that very few could hold a candle to Trista and I wager that you would not be so smug. This can happen to anyone..

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    1. I had a cousin who was murdered and it took her dad a few years to return to some sort of normality. The pain is brutal and you could see it on his face. I can't imagine why anyone would feel anything but empathy for Ron Sr. whose sense of loss has been readily apparent throughout this ordeal.

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    2. Well said Jeff. Dana, that was harsh. By all accounts Ron Sr. adored Ayla and is absolutely devastated. I didn't realize he was an alcoholic with 20+ years sobriety. Hopefully he can jump right back on the wagon. Try to imagine how hard this would be for a completely sober person to go through without wanting to numb the pain with a drink or a drug. Then think of how much harder it would be for a person fighting addiction on top everything else he's going through. Even after 20+ years of sobriety, it's a daily struggle. Have some compassion for this man. He's not involved in this case in any way other than his love and concern for his baby granddaughter.

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    3. I did not say they deserved it. I simply pointed out the fact one side is no different than the other, they both have problems be it drugs ,or alcohol. Don't blame the getting drunk on anything other than he is an alcoholic. No one forced him to take it. I do sympathize with him, but no one knows or cares what the other side is going through. How would you like to be called a murderer for over 15 months day after day on the internet for the whole world to see.

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    4. Jeff I do not feel I am being Smug it has to be devastating. Why only the empathy for the maternal side. Both sides should have it shown to them until LE charges one or the other or even someone we don't know about.

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    5. You want harsh try reading U4A for awhile with an open mind.

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    6. Empathy is deserved for the maternal side and not the paternal side, because the paternal side got rid of Ayla. She was most likely killed on their watch, most likely by their hands. Now they just hide the truth, hide Ayla and continue on with their lives like Ayla never existed. It's pretty clear who deserves sympathy and it isn't Justin and his family. They know where Ayla is and they aren't telling. Shame on them.

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    7. With all these facts maybe you should tell LE about what you have found out. Sounds like you could end this nightmare tomorrow.

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    8. Dana, MSP already knows it and have stated it themselves. Read McCauslands statement from April 4th, Ayla's 3rd birthday when not one paternal family went to wish Ayla a happy birthday publically. Just in case you missed it

      He added: “Any birthday of a child is a milestone, usually filled with joy and hope. Today is a sad reminder this is not the case in Waterville, and that on Ayla’s third birthday we still do not have the complete story of what happened inside that Violette Avenue home from those who know what occurred. Ayla deserves better.”

      http://www.kjonline.com/news/neighbors-remember-missing-girl_2013-04-03.html?pagenum=full

      I am providing the link with it, I am not making this disrespect by the paternal family up! Neither is McCausland apparently. Your comment of Ron being close to Ayla in a jail cell is totally disrespectful and totally uncalled for. Please do not ignor MSP statements to dismiss the paternal families inadequacies!

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    9. John I am not going to argue with you. His opinion is his opinion, or there would be charges.

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  11. Just like the Justin supporters to jump on the Ron incident. This is a man that is grieving, I would never be able to stand the pain and continue on with life the way the Reynolds have.

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    1. Not jumping on him anymore than peopled jumped on Lance. This is what I mean about people only looking on one side. Lance action was inexcusable, and so is Ron's.

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    2. So grieving makes it OK to be a perpetrator of domestic violence? Falling off the wagon explains threatening a family member with a knife? And who is this family member- perhaps someone who is also grieving about Ayla?

      Stop making excuses for criminal behavior against others.

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    3. Foil, But it is ok for Heidi, Angela and the TLLOM group to excuse Justin and his family's bad behavior, right?

      Justin is no father. He's a self centered, no conscience, sick person. And his family is no better.

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    4. Your baseless conclusion is obviously meant to bait me but it's too silly to take seriously. There is no excuse for domestic violence and there should be no victimizing the perpetrator. I don't care who it is.

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    5. Anon 8:02 -- You say "But it is ok for Heidi, Angela and the TLLOM group to excuse Justin and his family's bad behavior, right?" ... I'm just wondering, has more been proven other than Lance going after someone who had previously abused his little sister/niece???? If there was "more" terrible stuff that the family actually DID, instead of stuff SPECULATED UPON by a certain group of people who have already publicly hung him, please let us all know. And your OPINION of Justin is just that - yours. Others have similar opinions of the maternal family - and that is theirs. Each person is entitled to their own opinions. But just because it's YOUR opinion doesn't mean it's right. Have you ever met Justin? Have you spent ad adequate amount of time with him to personally find if he is grieving, just as the others? Do you know him well enough to call him a sick person?

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    6. Foil...I concur.

      Wielding a knife during a domestic dispute is not an acceptable form of "grieving."

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    7. Katie, like on FB the other day when we were rudely interrupted, I am not trying to be argumentative or offensive but I find disagreements in your comment.

      He (McCausland) added: “Any birthday of a child is a milestone, usually filled with joy and hope. Today is a sad reminder this is not the case in Waterville, and that on Ayla’s third birthday we still do not have the complete story of what happened inside that Violette Avenue home from those who know what occurred. Ayla deserves better.”

      http://www.kjonline.com/news/neighbors-remember-missing-girl_2013-04-03.html?pagenum=full

      How is not telling all you know about a missing child not proven "bad behavior"? Is this family behavior as described by McCausland not "bad behavior"? Fact, the family did not publically wish Ayla a Happy Birthday on her birthday even though according to the family she is out there somewhere, is this "good behavior"? Wishing that Trista commit suicide on his FB page is not "bad behavior"? Though I agree with your assessment that the Anon does not know the DiPietro family, I think the wording you chose is far from correct. I think you also missed the article where the Lance case was discussed, the judge when passing sentencing said "You are not your brother's keeper", not "You are not your sister's keeper". The judge also considered this event with JL to be related to words spoken against Justin and the DiPietros in general regarding Ayla's disappearance. If the judge would have said Your Sister's Keeper, then I would believe the DiPietros that it was not related to Ayla. As it is, it was definately related according to the judge, only the DiPietros are saying it was because of violence against Elisha, but are we to believe that or the Judges comments?

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    8. Marden told DiPietro, "This is your brother, and I appreciate the emotional attachment, but you should not be an enforcer for your brother."

      The judge warned him another incident could result in a long jail sentence.

      Lance DiPietro's previous criminal record includes a 2002 juvenile burglary conviction, a 2003 theft, 2005 and 2006 convictions for furnishing alcohol to minors and violating conditions of release, and a 2007 violating condition of release, Mitchell said.

      https://www.facebook.com/Help.Find.Ayla/posts/459931467360035

      It seems Lance has an issue with alcohol too, at least he keeps giving it to minors for some reason? Could that have been his little underage sister and brother? I think you get my point, so I will leave it at this and say good day.

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    9. And more to the point, Lance himself said publicly that it was about comments made about the family with respect to Ayla's reported disappearance. http://www.kjonline.com/news/aylas-uncle-calls-fight-unfortunate_2012-02-07.html

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    10. John 1:4

      It seems Lance has an issue with alcohol too, at least he keeps giving it to minors for some reason? Could that have been his little underage sister and brother? I think you get my point, so I will leave it at this and say good day.

      Not cruel or uncalled for because who it is about and who is saying it.

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    11. Does anyone have a comment they can provide, that states- Lance's behavior in regards to the confrontation between JL & LD, is *acceptable* behavior?
      I haven't seen one.

      I didn't see comments that Lance made to, or about Trista. I ask though, WHO said those comments were acceptable?

      As far as demeaning comments go, I've seen plenty in regards to both sides of Ayla's family, many more regarding the paternal side.

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    12. Anon1, the comment by Katie is why the comments you are asking about were made. She asked "I'm just wondering, has more been proven other than Lance going after someone who had previously abused his little sister/niece???? If there was "more" terrible stuff that the family actually DID, instead of stuff SPECULATED UPON by a certain group of people who have already publicly hung him, please let us all know."

      We wre just letting people know that the incident with Lance was related to Ayla, while Ron's was not related to Ayla until someone here decided to make it that way. Thank you for asking though, I hope this helps.

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    13. John P: We wre just letting people know that the incident with Lance was related to Ayla, while Ron's was not related to Ayla until someone here decided to make it that way.
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      Talk of double standards! We are to feel bad for Ron Reynolds because he is upset about Ayla and who could blame him for acting out, but when it suits you his acting out has nothing to do with Ayla? Also we don't know that it wasn't related to Ayla. Police stated his arrest wasn't related to the DISAPPEARANCE of Ayla. But he could have been arguing about Ayla, and why he chose to take it out on a family member- related to Ayla? is unknown.

      Stop acting like you have all of the facts and please for goodness sake stop defending everything like you are Ayla's caretaker.

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    14. We ALL want Ayla brought home and to do that we need to find the truth. Those who want the truth are open to it.

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    15. Foil, I did not, I do not and I will not condone Ron's behavior. I did not justify his actions and I am not stating that you should feel sorry for him. I pointed out how Dana's comment was so very disrespectful of Ayla Bell's memory. Thank you though for telling me what I said.

      Secondly, we know for fact that in the article posted it clearly said that LE stated it was not related to Ayla. I am going solely from what was reported, as I thought we all did. I do not know what happened nor does anyone here, but I do know how to read Foil! Thank you again for making my point that MSP is ignored when it does not suit certain positions. I have stated nothing that was not reported and I provided links for it as well. Maybe you should try reading the links before accusing me of making up stuff to be the family protector. Good day and good bye!

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    1. Thank you I am glad I was able to explain it so you could see where I was coming from.

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    2. Jeff, I am sorry I am not as nice as you. Dana B commenting about being close to Ayla while being in a jail cell is absolutely disgusting, disrespectful and uncalled for in every aspect. I understand you are referring to another comment about showing the same sympathy for both families but the comment above it is beyond any understanding!

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    3. If you took it in context you may not be as offended. He had no place to go, well getting thrown in jail, I guess was as good a place as where he was before, in his home or anywhere else. It was not meant as disrespectful to Ayla and I was not referring she was in jail or should have been. When your site attacked Lance because he got in a fight with Elisha x boyfriend for disrespecting the diepetro family was fine with you and justified. You take it for granted Lance was not grieving over Ayla being missing, he was only being a bully. Take off the blinders John and look around a little. You have your site where you can control all that is said if talk here offends you.

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    4. When two brothers go out with the intention of kicking the ass of a kid half the size of one of the brother's, all because he said some things they did not like, I say that merits my scorn and my scrutiny when it is about Ayla, and it is on a site For Ayla! This was not grieving based on the FACT the brothers were driving around looking for him and texting him and challenging him to fights before this ever went down. So hell yeah there is a huge difference between me talking shit about the DiPietros beatdown of JL and you disrespecting the memories of Ayla Bell for Ron Sr!

      I am done arguing this point with you Dana, you are obviously blind to the facts because they do not suit what you want the outcome to be. I am sorry you wont have that outcome, I pray it is the same outcome I have been hoping for, but I Sir, live with the printed and spoken facts of MSP and the media!

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    5. John,

      I would live with the words of MSP, but not the media. Especially the media that has been somehow tricked into believing every little lie released. That, my friend, is how rumors are started. If you have a problem with our thinking, go back to your own page. We don't come there to cause issues, and you should adhere to the same decency.

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    6. "we still do not have the complete story of what happened inside that Violette Avenue home from those who know what occurred." said McCausland.

      I see this as a vague comment, that doesn't tell me much. Except that MSP are not positive about what happened to Ayla.
      MSP doesn't have the complete story of what happened to Ayla at the Violette Av. home.
      They don't have the complete story from whom?,..those who know what occurred.
      Who is it that knows what occurred??
      He doesn't say, we don't have the complete story from the DiPietro family. Nor, We still don't have the complete story from the 3 people that were that night.
      Instead, he makes it vague, ..from those who know what occurred.

      Whether Ayla came to some sort of harm, or she was abducted, it happened from inside the Violette A. home.



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    7. All due respect Katie, I had no intentions of commenting here, until Dana was allowed to blatantly disrespect Ayla's memory the way he did. Yet I am asked to leave a public blog because I respectfully disagreed with you on a site where you say everyone is entitled to an opinion. I was polite to you, not to Dana. Dana did not deserve to have politeness, but yet I am the one asked to leave? I thought we were all here for Ayla, and I am being asked to leave because I defended what I felt was blatant disrespect to Ayla and I am asked to leave once again? Katie, I will leave for the sake of sanity, but before you chastise anyone for creating issues, chastise those that disrespect Ayla's memory, and chastise yourself for not realizing as an admin you should have before I had to! Good luck with this Katie!

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    8. This is where difference of opinion comes into play. Dana has, in my mind, not disgraced or disrespected Ayla. Dana wants the same thing we all want, Ayla to come home. Dana's opinion on Ron's situation (or anyone else's for that matter) is just that, Dana's opinion. You however, come over here telling eveyone how their opinions are wrong and you have links to prove it. Well, sorry, my opinion won't be found in any links because those are in my head. Good day to you!

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    9. Dana's opinion katie had nothing to do with my verbal "attacks" of Dana. I have not either said he disrespected Ayla, I have said and I continue to say he disrespected Ayla's memory! But hey, WTH because this entire subject had nothing to do with Ayla according to LE, but the media that QUOTED LeE is not to be trusted so how the hell do we even know it was Ron Sr??? If the obvious disrespect of Ayla's memory is going to be condone by one of the admins here, then I guess this site is exactly what I feared it would become!

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    10. John P is this site is scary to you then don't visit.

      Katie: "my opinion won't be found in any links because those are in my head." Well stated!

      John P has a delusion that he is the sole caretaker of "Ayla's Memory" and gets to determine what can or can't be said. He seems to see himself as some kind of Knight fighting a noble battle. I think it's hard for him to accept that there are likely thousands of people who care about finding Ayla as much as he does but that we all go about it in our unique way. I find him to be a big distraction from meaningful discussions that honor Ayla by trying to find the truth and hope he will not return to this blog. I do not post on his blog because I would simply be distracting from his mission: To silence anyone who isn't in agreement with his speculations and theories.

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  13. (McCausland) puts his pants on one leg at a time, and can make mistakes just like the rest of the human race.

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    1. But he never seems to be making a mistake when not declaring JD a suspect or clearing Trista as a POI. This is the same double standard you claim to be admonishing in that you use his statements to justify remaining neutral but yet say he is wrong when he makes derogatory statements against them? We can not have it both ways Dana, Ron was wrong, but MSP states that it was not related to Ayla and they are wrong. Ron was released on bail as Lance was for his indiscretions and yet you say, "This is the same guy JP said was on the news crying about no place to go to pay respects to Ayla. I guess a jail cell is as good a place as any." and there is no way to justify you saying he can pay respects to his missing grandbaby while in a jailcell! Justify it to yourself Dana, in my eyes there is NO Justice in your comment!

      I don't condone what Ron did, I do not condone your words either. The fact is MSP said it was not about Ayla and you then turn and bring Ron's visible grief over Ayla into this and then disrespect her memory in Ron's mind. There is no context in the words you posted Dana, they are right there and they are in plain english.

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    2. ** or NOT clearing Trista **

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    3. John, not to be disrespectful to you, but if you don't like what is being said here, please go back to U4A and bitch over there about all that is said over here. Attacking people here is not going to endear you to these folks. We are all trying to look at this case without condemning one side or the other. Please respect that.

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    4. John you are getting all upset over a difference in opinion. I hope you can relate to how other people felt when they would write on U4A and you didn't agree with there opinion. The difference is you won't be monitored here and not allowed to comment. Here you are allowed your opinion, and if it makes you happy to attack me feel free. I am not as heartless as you think.

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    5. Monitored, yes, but blocked, no. If someone gets out of control and threatening or outright lies, it will be deleted and they can consider writing another comment. I have thick skin, Dana, but I can only take so much bullshit.

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    6. monitored was my mistake, another one thats 2 this year.

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    7. Katie, did you not see the comment that Dana made that I "attacked" him about or do you condone that as well? If that is to be condoned then why are you asking me to leave when I have not threated or used profanity towards Dana? I did chastise his comments repeatedly and would continue to do so if I thought it would do any good. Appaently I was not the only one th

      You know what this is friggin rediculous. Why bother if you can not see how disrespectful the comment was to Ayla!

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    8. Answers for Ayla: "Dana; I see your point."
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      Yes, John...it is getting, as you state, "friggin rediculous". Jeff and Dana worked it out. Not sure why you can't let it go.

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    9. Your right McKee, and I am out of here after this comment. Obviously I was not the only one that felt Dana disrespected Ayla's memory. Jeff accepted Dana's explanation, and side stepping. All I ever wanted was a simple apology for the disrespect to Ayla's memory and I would not have made even 1 comment here. Dana is going to allowed to side step and attempt to justify the comment. You ask why I can't let it go and my answer is, because everyone else has let it go and Dana has never apologized for teh comment and the way it appeared weather his intent or not. I thought and still do think that an apology was due. That is the only reason I wouldn't let it go McKee, lack of an apology for what appeared to be a disrespect to Ayla's memory. Thanks for asking instead of assuming I am trying to be the family protector like another assumed earlier.

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    10. Have you ever seen McCausland put his pants on? Maybe he suspends them in the air and climbs up a latter and jumps into them both legs at once. :)

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    11. Not really, but he better not suspend them to high he is short.

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  14. Mountain Mama states: "From the time Ayla disappeared Ron has been out there speaking for his missing granddaughter. He’s begged and pleaded for someone to come forward and bring Ayla home. He has sobbed in front of the whole country and told Ayla “Papa loves you” and “we’ll find you Ayla”. He has begged for answers that would help find Ayla."
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    The issue at hand is that Ron pulled a knife on a family member, was uncooperative with authorities, and had to be stunned with a taser. Thank God the Portland police didn't take the "poor guy and his missing granddaughter" attitude.

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    1. Mckee...She was not condoning Ron's actions. For clarity's sake, here is the whole comment so that statement can be seen in context...

      mountain mama says:
      June 7, 2013 at 3:05 pm

      I will not deny, excuse or condone Ron’s recent alleged actions.

      From the time Ayla disappeared Ron has been out there speaking for his missing granddaughter. He’s begged and pleaded for someone to come forward and bring Ayla home. He has sobbed in front of the whole country and told Ayla “Papa loves you” and “we’ll find you Ayla”. He has begged for answers that would help find Ayla.

      If a grandfather who has been charged with criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon, has consistently spoken out for his granddaughter and kept Ayla’s name and face in the media from the beginning, what does that say about Justin, Elisha, Phoebe and Lance who haven’t spoken out for Ayla for almost a year?

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    2. What does If a grandfather who has been charged with criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon, has consistently spoken out for his granddaughter and kept Ayla’s name and face in the media from the beginning. Have to do with anything Justin, Elisha, Phoebe and Lance would or would not have said.

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    3. They have said nothing and that says to me that they want this whole thing to go away. . . guess what Dips, its not going away until you start respecting that sweet inocent baby and start talking. WHERE IS AYLA? If Ron knew he would be talking, if Trista knew she would go get her. It is clear to me that whatever happened to her happened in that house while three adults sat there and let it happen. . .

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    4. anon 8:31 If Ron knew he would be talking. So does this mean Justin doesn't know because he isn't talking?

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    5. Dana, it's a waste of time trying to respond to that anon. S/he just posts hate toward the DiPietro family. S/he doesn't know them at all, yet knows so much about their inner thoughts and everything that happened back in December 2011.

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    7. Point taken Michelle good to hear from you.

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    8. Dana...I'm thrilled to learn you are now an admin here!

      Michelle...I, too, am glad to hear from you.

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    9. Thanks. I've been lurking...and still hoping for Ayla's safe return :)

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    10. Thanks mckeekitty & Michelle
      I try to help keep the spam off the site. I wish I cold write like some of you that do posts, but it takes a lot of time and research. I just don't have the time and not a real good reader. I wasted my school years being rebellious.

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    11. "I wasted my school years being rebellious."
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      Made me laugh.

      You express yourself well, Dana. You care about a missing little girl... That comes through loud and clear. That is what matters.

      Thank you for cleaning up the spam litter.

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    12. I agree with mckee...you do a great job. Your dedication shows, and that's what matters!

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  15. I still hope that this case with James Graham can shed light on Ayla's case. If not with James himself someone he has been associated with and knows about.

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  16. I only have one comment and I will close for tonight. Katie I am sorry if I caused you any grief as an admin of this site. My intentions were, are and always will be to not disrespect Ayla's memory or Ayla. If it was taken that way I am sorry. I realize I win no prizes in writing skills, but eventually I can get someone to understand what I mean.

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    1. That is very gracious Dana, I do appreciate the apology and I also know from emails and other discussions you never intended it to appear the way it did.

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    2. John...I can't speak for Dana, but I'm pretty sure his apology was directed towards Katie, not you.

      I'm glad you recognize that Dana is a true friend to Ayla. He wants the truth, like we all do.

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    3. Dana I hope you will never shape your thoughts and opinions to please others. If you are speaking your truth respectfully and it's coming from your heart then I would let go of the rest, even if it means getting booted off any particular "Island." That's how I have always lived my life, anyway. John P baiting you into a fight in the name of honoring Ayla's Memory is peculiar. He doesn't have a patent on how one goes about honoring HER (I don't like his addition of "Memory"), and not all of us are convinced she is no longer alive. John P disrespected YOU and the rest of us by turning this into a battle. That, to me, is disrespectful to all of us who are speaking peacefully among ourselves.

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    4. I never will change my thoughts or opinions because of a persons attack against me, or trying to twist my words into something that was not intended. When a person lets something like this case with Ayla consume there every waking thought it can become unhealthy. When you give up hope of finding Ayla alive then only hate is left for anyone you think could be responsible, or does not see things as you do. Some people that have never met Ayla or even heard of her before this case have let it consume them. My only prayer and hope is Ayla comes home soon.

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  17. Please feel free to help light Ayla's rooms

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ayla
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ARAA
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=WIA

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  18. Respectfully McKee, I never thought it was directed at me, I hope it was directed to Ayla and Ayla's Memory, and I think Dana knows that as well.

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  19. My blood pressure is going up with John P posting here. I am out unless he leaves.

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    1. I hope you don't ever leave because of John P. He can not put you in moderation here or rewrite your statements to say what he wants before posting them. That is the reason I came here. We can not let him silence everything he doesn't agree with.

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    2. That's true. He's just so...omnipresent. I'll try to ignore him.

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  20. With all due respect, Dana B., you do not know what permissions John P has anywhere. He runs United For Ayla now, and, at least to me, it is clear that Jeff co-runs this site. How do you know that Jeff hasn't given John P access to this blog, either under is own name, or perhaps using Jeff's id and password.

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  21. Because I would be under moderation right now and a lot of people that comment here would also. I don't think Katie would be welcome here either. Tori as far as I know asked Katie to help with the site. If my comments disappear you will know. This site so far has been open to discussion from both sides and that is not allowed on the other site in my opinion. Time will tell. I respect your question do you feel John P runs this site also?

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    1. John P is in no way associated with this page. Jeff keeps removing himself and asking to be re-added when needs arise. We originally agreed to re-open this page instead of a new one so that we could collaborate and openly accept all views. My issue with John is one of attitude and immediate dismissal of any thoughts that are not in line with his. Although this page has seemed to bring in more unsure viewers and maybe more who believe the paternal side did not have a hand in Ayla's disappearance, this site will always accept anyone's view and opinion, as long as it does not get out of hand, hateful, threatening or ridiculous, as one certain person did above. And if I ever thought he was posting for Jeff, I would remove Jeff's permissions. Jeff knows exactly what grounds this agreement was built on, and I highly doubt he'd completely cross them. That being said, we all know that Jeff was Trista's step-father. Jeff is obviously tied to that side of the family, and tightly, so if Jeff's posts do seem more "one sided" that is obviously why. As we expect one another to respect our thoughts and opinions, we expect the same of the viewers when it comes to Jeff.

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  22. I don't feel that John P runs this site also, I feel that Jeff has a bigger say in both sites (even though he "stepped down" at U4A) and that being said John P will naturally benefit from that.

    Tori is apparently awol again, and Katie doesn't want to "rehash" (my word, not hers) old information. I believe that this blog gives an appearance of being neutral, but I don't believe for one second that it actually is.

    As long as things are quiet, no reason to clamp down. Let the shit hit the fan, and you will see whose camp this really is.

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    1. I can only say JP was pretty hot under the collar last night and it didn't change here yet.

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    2. Anon, I don't know who you are, but I believe that everyone who regularly comments here agreed that rehashing every little thing that both U4A and JSTL already covered might not be what's best right now. Tori has just started a new job, is going through some things with her family and children, and just simply doesn't have the time for writing at the moment. Jeff is scarce around here and comes and goes in spurts. Yes, it is known that I am a friend of Justin and a firm believer that he had no hand in Ayla's disappearance, but I am able to see this with an open mind because I'm not sure how my husband and I would act if this happened to us. We've never been in their shoes, so for me it's very hard to say I would do one thing or the other. I've talked with Trista on numerous occasions, and do I think she had anything to do with this? I don't know. There are times when Justin's actions make me think the same way. But do any of us truly know what has happened? No. We don't. So until we do, we will go through things occasionally, and if someone wants to bring something up in the comments they are more than welcome. I've also said anyone can contact myself or Tori if they want to do a guest post, just click the contact page and email one of us.

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    3. Thanks Katie and I apologize for my absence lately, I do receive all comments in my email and do try to respond to personal emails and comments directed at me when I see them but there just haven't been enough hours in the day lately.

      For the record, Dana B is an admin here so he does have access to see who the other admins are and would know if John P was an admin here. Katie also is an admin and Jeff comes on from time to time to add input when he can and will then remove himself later so he doesn't get all the comment notifications. I have tried to add people who are either neutral, undecided, and if one sways to one side, I have tried to balance it out by adding another voice to the blog who sways to the opposite side. We all have our opinions but the difference between this blog and all others is that this blog is made up of people who have no problem saying that they just don't know what happened and don't feel comfortable passing judgement without all of the facts and I think that the blog is going well even without the daily post updates. There just isn't enough info to continuously post "new" stories. I do have the upmost respect for those that have been able to come up with new posts daily.

      I also can say with complete confidence that Jeff is not allowing anyone to log in with his account info and he emailed me prior to his new post to tell me to read it and let him know what I thought before he posted.

      With that being said, Thank you Katie for picking up my slack and thank you Dana. I know you haven't got a lot of free time but have been helping out immensely with comment moderation and keeping the blog going and I appreciate it.

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  23. This account has always troubled me:

    http://www.kjonline.com/news/closer-look-at-cases-earliest-moments_2012-12-17.html?pagenum=full

    Note the behaviors of Ron, Trista, and Robert Fortier. Also keep in mind that Trista told NG that she was at The Maine Motel when Ayla went missing.

    Why would Ron fall to the ground in tears upon hearing that Ayla was missing, but then tell Robert to let Trista sleep and keep driving towards Machiasport until there was more information? I simply can't wrap my mind around it. And why in the world would Robert comply with such a zany request to drive FURTHER away from Waterville upon hearing that Ayla was missing?

    Robert Fortier is Trista's only alibi during those critical hours.

    It took four months for the Machiasport story to surface.

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    1. I agree it is troubling. The only scenes of grief I have seen seem to have been done on cue. I could be wrong but that is how it appears to me. Trista has changed things she has said were told to her by LE. Yet we are suppose to believe everything she says when she says it or we are mindless Diepietro lovers. I for one only want the truth no matter who is responsible, but I want facts to base my judgement on. I do not want to base them on something that should be printed in a dime novel.

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    2. Trista changed her story about how long and "how" her relationship was with Justin, how Ayla was placed at the DiPietros, how Justin got Ayla's social security number, how many times she did (or did not) visit Ayla and why she filed for "Rights and Responsibilities" just before Ayla disappeared. She has given no reasonable explanation for changing her stories.

      Justin has not changed his story, unless you count his whereabouts on Friday, Dec. 16, 2011, but even then, he didn't change his own story, Trista (through Jeff) changed it for him. Phoebe gave a very convincing reason why she felt she needed to lie so early on in the investigation.

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    3. Anon 6:12...good summation.

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    4. Very good points anon 6:12. Oh and Dana I concur.....these are just some of the many reasons I have changed my mind. I was once a stanch believer that the Dips did it....Now I dont even know what "it" is that was done....There has been nothing actually released by MSP to the media that states exactly how much blood was found, nor where it was found. The articles that I have found that say anything about LE talking about blood is that there was blood found and "some" of it was Ayla's. U4A and JPs sticking points seem to be that the paternal family hasn't spoken to the media or spoke out for Ayla, I think this is because no matter what they say or don't say they are crucified for it....it's pretty much a damned if they do and damned if they don't. That may even be why Trista and her camp have become silent...when her side went silent there was quite a bit of stir about her changing stories....actually it was right around the time of the last "revelations" that her side stopped. So personally I think what has been released in the media and what LE has released may just be things that aren't quite true to see what they can gleen from that....

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    5. I for one would read with great interest anything from Justin or his family. I would not condemn or glorify anything they said. Who knows what he is saying to friends, or people that do not scoff at his every word?

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    6. The thing is this will probably never happen because there are people who would try to rip him apart.

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    7. Justin has had no comments so I guess it would be easy to not change it up. .. . the one person who could shed light on this awful occurence and he stays silent and is not telling all he knows??????? Why would a greiving dad do that?????? In my mind there is only one reason!

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    8. I guess if you have never been in that persons situation you can come up with only one.

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    9. I think it is important to note what Cynthia of LNM has said about a family's reactions to media coverage.

      (Cynthia) Caron said being in the media spotlight is difficult for families of the missing, and people generally react to the pressure in one of two ways.

      (Cynthia Caron of LNM) says the answer is for one of two reasons. “They either withdraw from it, or they do the opposite — they just dive right in,” she said.

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    10. That sounds logical. The media is either behind you, or they crucify you depending on which way they receive the highest ratings.IMO

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  24. Please help brighten Ayla’s rooms.

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ayla
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ARAA
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=WIA

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  25. Hey can I ask....Wtf happened to juststopthelies blog?.?

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    1. Grace ran her off. LOL

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    2. Obscure is back. I knew saying Grace ran her off would get her going again. What a puppet.

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  26. What do you think about Statement analysis?
    Do you think anyone can do it?
    How accurate do you think it is?

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    1. There are those who believe it is a great investigative tool, for those *well trained*.
      Others who think it is junk science.

      How accurate is it?
      It is my understanding that it is NOT admissible evidence in a court of law.

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    2. Personally, I think that SA is a ridiculous load of crap. When I'm typing I tend to add way more words than I would if speaking. If I get angry I add terrible words and focus only on what I'm doing in that moment. Maybe for some people this works and maybe it's only for the spoken word, but I find that the way U4A tears apart everyone's typed words is rubbish.

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    3. I guess if you are an investigator a person may word something that may make you suspicious. If a person like myself that hated English in school and doesn't know the proper use of words. I could be in deep trouble with the law and done nothing wrong. As anyone can tell I don't always complete full sentences. I really don't use punctuation correctly, and a lot of times I mix words up like monitor and moderation. I don't think I would be good at SA because I never could even diagram sentences correctly.

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    4. I agree with your assessment of SA, Katie. I, like yourself, rewrite and reword things much differently when I am writing, sometimes to make it more readable, or to make it more grammatically correct. I personally find it of no use when it comes to people that have not specialize in that field (basically amateurs) to try and use SA. They come of as pompous. Of course this is just my opinion.....

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    5. Statement analysis "a la" Mr. Hyatt gives me a headache. My opinion is that Peter approaches each case with his own bias, then cherry picks certain statements to bolster his position.

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  27. There are a lot of people all over the country writing on blogs about Justin Diepietro that have never met him or any of his family. The same with Trista Reynolds all we know is what we read, and from that draw conclusions about them. I for one would love to hear from a few people that really know either one of them, or both. What is Justin really like? could he do what some people accuse him of ? What is Trista really like ? Is she the same as we have seen her on camera ? Bad things do happen to good people all the time. I think both may be very different from the conclusions people have drawn from the media.

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    1. Dana your efforts are appreciated.

      "I for one would love to hear from a few people that really know either one of them, or both".

      Make that two!



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    2. Dana,

      This is kind of why I am here. I have known Justin since we were in grade school. Granted, when Ayla went missing we had been in different points for a while in our lives that I never met Ayla, or saw him parent her. He dated my best friend through most of high school. To me, he is not the kind of person who could commit such a terrible act. Was he a "punk", yes, he was a bully, in jr high and parts of high school, but what teenage boy isn't? There were MANY times I was the brunt of Justin's bullying, but here I stand, not wavering, because I honest to God do not feel as if he would or could ever do this to someone. The physical harm that the others are claiming he did to Ayla just baffles me. Did he look rough and tough with his winter beard? Sure. Did he seem odd because he kept quiet? Of course. But since high school, he's been that way. Keeping to himself a lot (other than around his good friends, who seemed to mostly be based in Portland, give or take a few). He has since gotten rid of that ridiculous beard (keep it gone, Justin, it looked ridiculous) and he is still the same person I once knew, only he is broken. Broken because it took him so long to find out if that beautiful girl was his baby, and then after finally receiving a chance with her his whole word crumbles as she goes missing.

      I wish I knew Trista well. We've spoken a handful of times since this occurred. We are by no means best friends, or even remotely friends at all, and I will never claim that. But I believe you are on the right path, Dana, by saying that both parties may be very different from the conclusions drawn from the media.

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    3. Katie said...Was he a "punk", yes, he was a bully, in jr high and parts of high school, but what teenage boy isn't? There were MANY times I was the brunt of Justin's bullying, but here I stand, not wavering, because I honest to God do not feel as if he would or could ever do this to someone.

      ******************************

      This bothers me...From someone who knows Justin - He was a punk. He was a bully in Jr High and parts of High School,"but what teenage boy isn't"?
      Katie, do you think bullying is normal? If being around bullies is your normal, then I feel sorry for you. Some are, but no, most teenage boys are not bully's. People have been literally bullied to death, committing suicide because they couldn't take it anymore. Bullies for the most part feel angry, incompetent and have low self esteem. That is why they bully, picking on those weaker than themselves to feel better and more powerful momentarily by tearing another down.
      If what you say is true, that he was a bully in school, I fear Ayla may have borne the wrath of Justin, her being smaller, weaker and easy to pick on. Bullying behavior does not just go away. It takes intervention.

      "I honest to God do not feel as if he would or could ever do this to someone."

      I understand your feeling this way about a friend, but how many times do we hear or read in the news that friends and neighbors say "but he was such a nice guy, I never would have thought he could do this." All the time unfortunately.

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    4. Dee...I have to agree. I sort of cringed and grimaced when I read Katie's impressions of Justin during their school years. "Punk" and "bully" aren't exactly stellar characteristics.

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    5. Thanks for the validation mckee. I was hoping I wasn't the only one it bothered. I'm not picking on Katie, I sincerely hope bullying behavior is not the norm in her circle but that's the way it came across.

      Btw...how the hell are ya? :0)

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    6. Just to play devil's advocate, by no means am I condoning bullying, but there is a difference between physical and verbal/emotional bullying...Justin strikes me as more of a verbal/emotional bully where Lance strikes me as more of a physical bully....so someone that bullies emotionally would be less likely to physically harm someone....again I am in no way condoning the behavior...


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    7. Sorry, Oak. I maintain that bullying is bullying. Verbal, emotional, and/or physical...it inflicts pain. I really can't minimize this revelation, especially since it is coming from Justin's friend, Katie.

      Now, does this mean Justin harmed his daughter? Absolutely not. But it does reflect some on Justin's character, at least during his school years.

      Hope you are well...

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    8. Hey Dee...yeah, I'm troubled by Justin's "punk" and "bully" reputation as well. Dana requested insight from those that personally know the key players, and Katie delivered.

      I'm well...thanks for asking. Too much rain, though. And you?

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    9. Katie.
      Thank you for your honest assessment of Justin as a teenager. I know what I was like as a teenager. I was stocky and they always told me I looked like a 48 Buick coming down the road with the back doors open. These kids were not actually bullies they were the kids that got better grades and everyone liked them.They were nice enough if you were one on one with them, but when it was 3 or 4 they liked to tease. So I use to push up against them like I wanted to fight, I really didn't I just wanted to be accepted. Luckily I never hit anyone or hurt anyone. Actually even to this day fighting scares me. I get emotional if someone gets mad and hurts another person. I have always had a tender heart that way. The kids I went to school with all knew I would never hurt them, but I don't think they knew how much they hurt me. I am still over weight and my ears still stick out, but I learned to let go of the hurt and never hurt anyone either.

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    10. Thanks Katie, I appreciate you sharing some of your experiences with and about Justin.

      Some things that stand out to me are;
      He dated your best friend throughout high school.
      So not only did you know him well, but I'm sure your best friend confided in you things about Justin.
      Leaving you to know him *very well*.

      You tell us that Justin was a bully in Jr. High, and parts of high school.
      I'm assuming you mean the first year or so of high school.??
      So as a young boy, say 12 to 15 or so, Justin exhibited rebellious behavior.
      However, you believe that Justin grew or matured from that type of behavior?? (That's the sense I get from the things you said.)
      You said that since high school Justin has been more quiet and kept to himself, except around close friends. That doesn't sound like someone who is bullying.

      Very noteworthy to me is that it baffles you that others believe that Justin could do physical harm to Ayla.
      It's noteworthy because you have known Justin most of his life. I'm sure you have stood back and looked at everything throughout time about Justin.

      I believe he is broken,I don't know how he could be otherwise.

      Thanks again for your insight.





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    11. Bullying is one of those things that I believe everyone has experienced in one form or another in varying degrees. You have to realize that we've become so hyper aware of it to the point that there is a no tolerance attitude about it these days...yet it has *always* been a problem. It is how we establish the pecking order.

      Some cross over into extreme bullying, and that's very wrong, obviously. I feel that we're raising a generation of kids who can't handle it, though. We have got to teach our kids that they don't have to be a victim, and words of others don't define them in the least.

      So my input...I experienced being bullied. Some idiot I went to school with would look down on me for not wearing name brand clothing, and called me ugly. It happens. Is he a nice guy now? Sure he is. He complimented me once & he seems to be a great person. You can't define all adults by how they acted as a teen.

      I won't even go into my faults as a teen. I'm sure glad no one here knows them. That whole glass house dwellers throwing stones adage would be pretty appropriate here.

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    12. Totally agree Michelle. To this day I really don't dare to even reach for a rock.

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    13. I'm well too mckee, thanks. About the rain...it better knock it off or I'm going to have to build me an ark.

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    14. Michelle...I understand what you are saying.

      Frankly, I'm not "shook up" about Justin's Jr. and high school reputation. It certainly doesn't lead me to conclude he harmed Ayla.

      That said, I AM "hyper-sensitive" to the current bullying climate. In the past eighteen months, relentless bullying has resulted in three suicides at the local high school here in my town. It sucks. So much of the abuse takes place on social media. And the content goes far beyond clothing style or calling someone "ugly." It is much more vicious, much more destructive. The attacks are not obvious...they are launched via keyboard strokes, not on school grounds.

      Justin

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    15. Ugh! I didn't mean to sign off as "Justin." I was composing a sentence that I didn't feel the need to complete that began with "Justin"...

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    16. One more thing...I believe the DiPietros, especially Justin, have been "bullied" on certain sites.

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    17. Most definitely, mckee. Social media has introduced a whole new aspect of bullying that the human race hasn't adapted to yet.

      However, human nature in and of itself hasn't changed. We still need to equip our kids with the ability to be stronger than the tormentors. Too many parents don't pay attention or take the time to know what their kids are doing online.

      We have to adapt (as a whole), and we haven't yet. Technology updates so fast that it's not easy to keep up! Too many parents drop the ball and expect teachers & peers to pick up the slack.

      And on Justin, if he was a terrible tormentor, I seriously doubt that Katie would call him her friend. I guess that's the most telling, at least for me.

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    18. I agree entirely, and well said Michelle.

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    19. HMMMMMM Very interesting Mckekitty. . . was it a mistake that you signed Justin?????? Very intestesting indeed!

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    20. Wow very interesting Anonymous (11:51) that you would notice that people like Mkee make mistakes.....Very interesting...lol

      Mckee, I am well, hoping for all of this obnoxious rain to stop

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    21. "One more thing...I believe the DiPietros, especially Justin, have been "bullied" on certain sites"
      ......
      I agree, and in this case, not just the DiPietro's

      Here is some food for thought.

      "Bullies for the most part feel angry, incompetent and have low self esteem. That is why they bully, picking on those weaker than themselves to feel better and more powerful momentarily by tearing another down"

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  28. MM put up what I consider a great post on U4A. I only wish it was posted months ago. Truth is all we have all ever sought.

    Anyway, "Confused Anonymous" is raising some excellent points on the thread.

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    1. I know I have been reading them, there are still a lot that don't want to rethink the whole case. They still want to fight and condemn to bad they could accomplish more in my opinion.

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    2. MM should be commended for her post she is pretty set in what she thinks happened, but she is willing to put the anger aside and try a fresh look at everything. My opinion that is what it will take to move forward. Great Post MM

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    3. I agree it's a great post on U4A. A tip of the hat to MM.
      I also agree CA has very valid points, a voice of reason.

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    4. I agree.

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  29. One thing is for sure in this case with Ayla, innocent people on both sides of the family will have been hurt by false accusations.

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    1. I agree Dana. I'm pretty sure there have been quite a few innocent people that have been dragged through the mud in this case and some of them may never be the same. This is why I am trying very hard not to accuse someone of harming a child when we don't even know if the child has been harmed. Yes Ayla is missing, yes there has been some of her blood found, but honestly the only thing we know about that is just that. We have no idea how much of her blood was found and in all reality we do not know where that blood was found. Everyone says it was in the basement next to Justin's bed....show me where LE has released that little tidbit....a link or something....it really bothers me how everything that Jeff has release has been taken as gospel and other places have convicted the entire Dipeitro clan as well as a few others using this "evidence" yet LE will not confirm any of these things, ie the phone call to Derek before the 911 call, the amount of blood found, where the blood was found, and the list goes on.....

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    2. Oaklandrez said..."We have no idea how much of her blood was found and in all reality we do not know where that blood was found. Everyone says it was in the basement next to Justin's bed....show me where LE has released that little tidbit....a link or something..."

      Oakland,

      In this link McCausland does not say next to the bed but he does say Ayla's blood was found in the basement.


      “STEPHEN MCCAUSLAND, MAINE STATE POLICE (via telephone): Thanks for having me on, Nancy. And I want to compliment you. I know last week, you devoted 40 minutes one night to this case. It means a lot to the people of Maine that it`s still in the headlines and still being discussed nationally. And I thank you for that.

      I want to — the blood — Susan basically revealed what we`ve talked about. We`ve confirmed there was blood in the basement, and we`ve confirmed that some of those samples were Ayla`s. We haven`t discussed the quantity, nor am I going to tonight. But we find the discovery of the blood troubling.”

      http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/30/ng.01.html

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    3. In the basement and in the basement next to Justin's bed are 2 different things. I can agree that there was some of Ayla's blood found in the basement because LE said that, but I cannot agree that it was next to Justin's bed because LE didn't say that (and isn't one of the rules of SA, if they didn't say it, we can't say it for them). I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to use only the things that LE has said or confirmed to base my thoughts on. I can agree that they found the discovery of blood troubling but I can't agree on how much blood was found (they still have not confirmed an actual amount)...Basically Dee what I am saying is to look at this case objectively we cannot use any rumors, speculation or tidbits released by anyone other than LE. We cannot come to any logical conclusions that would convict anyone based on the things that LE have released or confirmed. There is way too many accusing Justin and company of being baby killers and such, based on rumors and speculation. None of us have any idea of what really happened and none of us will know until there is an arrest, and heck we may not even find out then....

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    4. oaklandrez I totally agree. The thing we have to remember is that they want to convict Justin or anyone associated with him without a trial. That includes twisting his words or anyone's that does not agree with their theory.

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    5. Oaklandrez...I have no argument with that. I agree that no one in a position to know has said publicly that the blood was found next to the bed, at least not that I have seen. I was just pointing out that McCausland did say Ayla's blood, in whatever amount, was found in the basement somewhere.

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    6. He also didn't say the *amount* of blood was troubling...just that the discovery of blood was troubling. That's another statement that's been twisted into something ominous.

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    7. Another thing he didn't say was that there was blood found anywhere other than the basement....

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  30. Trista is going through so much with Ayla missing for so long not knowing where she is. I understand Trista is going through so much of this. She needs time for healing. It is like an open sore causing her pain. If the accusations and drama could stop for awhile. By always accusing someone of murdering Ayla it is like picking at the sore constantly, it never will heal. The fliers asking people to look for Ayla, asking people if they have any information no matter how insignificant they think it is, to report it to LE. Keep looking for clues without condemning anyone, it is not about proving who did what when, but bringing Ayla home. Our anger and frustration being taken out on each other only makes her pain worse every time she reads it. JMO

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    1. Edit The things that accomplish good such as: The fliers asking people to look for Ayla, asking people if they have any information no matter how insignificant they think it is, to report it to LE. Keep looking for clues without condemning anyone, it is not about proving who did what when, but bringing Ayla home. Our anger and frustration being taken out on each other only makes her pain worse every time she reads it. JMO

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  31. OT-Is this Trista's current boyfriend?

    http://www.keepmecurrent.com/lakes_region_weekly/news/police-look-for-driver-who-sideswiped-motorcycle-in-standish-road/article_e4fe3f78-a39b-11e2-b051-0019bb2963f4.html

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    1. How does this have anything to do with Trista? Or did I miss something?

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  32. Lee has written an excellent post on U4A.

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    1. An excellent post indeed! Thank you, Lee.

      TRUTH and justice for all. Without the truth, there can be no justice.

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    2. It would be really nice if someone had the time to write a guest post for this site. What do you think?

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  33. "Concerned Anonymous" referenced three cases in which LE did not pursue alternative scenarios. Consequently, innocent people were charged with child murder.

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    1. I saw that and honestly that is what I worry about with this case.....I truly believe someone took Ayla out of that house and whisked her away to somewhere unknown...I believe Justin and co know who it is and doesn't want to rat them out for reasons unknown (maybe it's a member of the family, maybe it's a member of Trista's camp, maybe it was someone that did it as punishment, who knows). Other people's sticking point seems to be the blood....again, we do not know how much blood was found, nor where it was found (directly from LE)...what if the blood that was found was from a cut on Ayla's heel like Selena said in a post on JSTL and the other blood found with luminol (that is the rumor, anyway) was actually someone elses, cleaned up many yrs ago.....

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    2. "Doing SA on his statements showed me that Ayla was not alive right from the beginning – before the announcement of blood, before LE stated it was highly unlikely she was alive.

      Our words really do give us away."
      ...................
      No disrespect to the person who stated this but,
      this just astounds me.
      On Dec. 20th this person knew that Ayla was deceased, and Justin knew that. All by a statement that he wrote.

      Gee, why have an investigation, investigators, a trial, a judge, a jury. It's all very simple, we'll just analyse the words someone wrote to determine their guilt.

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    3. Personally I find that SA is utter garbage!!!! I am one that write and re-writes something to make it flow better or to make it more grammatically correct.....or when I send a text(if its a long one) I shorten many words to get more info into the text without having to send 2 or more texts ( I only have so many texts on my plan)...so SA is CRAP!!!!

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    4. Oak...I agree.

      Anonymous 1...I agree.

      Despite some powerful posts on U4A by MM and Lee regarding the dangers of jumping to conclusions, the bungee jumps inevitably continue.

      OT: John P has been mighty silent as of late.

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    5. Anonymous 1June 24, 2013 at 2:59 PM
      "Doing SA on his statements showed me that Ayla was not alive right from the beginning – before the announcement of blood, before LE stated it was highly unlikely she was alive.

      Our words really do give us away."
      ...................
      No disrespect to the person who stated this but,
      this just astounds me.
      On Dec. 20th this person knew that Ayla was deceased, and Justin knew that. All by a statement that he wrote.

      Gee, why have an investigation, investigators, a trial, a judge, a jury. It's all very simple, we'll just analyse the words someone wrote to determine their guilt.

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      It is your prerogative to be astounded. It is my prerogative to believe in Statement Analysis 100%. I wrote that and I stand by what I wrote.
      Statement Analysis is an investigative tool, like a LDT, like luminol, like any other investigative tool used. Like a LDT, it is not admissible in court. It is a useful tool used to find areas of concern, a way to get to the truth during questioning. It is a way to detect sensitivity and outright deception in statements. Any form of a statement - verbal or written. The FBI is trained in SA as are most local LE's, to include members of the MSP. Private corporations send HR and other staff to train in SA. Loss Prevention companies train in SA. Insurance investigators are trained in SA. Why are all these agencies training their personnel in "crap"? Because it works.
      Because I knew for myself that Ayla was deceased by the statement(s) Justin provided and what he did and did not say does not negate the need for an investigation. It does not negate the need for a jury trial. What I did NOT say in my post, as you are inferring, is that Justin is guilty of murder. I said he knows what happened, he knows she's dead. I didn't say he did it.

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    6. "What I did NOT say in my post, as you are inferring, is that Justin is guilty of murder. I said he knows what happened, he knows she's dead."
      ..........

      I was NOT inferring that you said Justin is guilty of murder.

      I was inferring that if S.A is as accurate as some claim it to be, there would be no need for investigations and trials.

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    7. "It is my prerogative to believe in Statement Analysis 100%."
      _______________

      I don't believe this for a minute, Dee.

      I don't believe you put all your faith in SA.

      You are an independent, critical thinker.

      At least that is how I choose to remember you.



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    8. I do not have faith in SA or Lie detector tests. There is too much room for error. Even with the system we have innocent people have been put in prison. I realize it is the best system we have. If they allowed SA and Lie Detector findings into it there would be a lot more innocent people locked up. While people who were guilty and could afford the best lawyers walk free.

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    9. Dee...let me correct and clarify.

      You state you believe in SA 100%...not put 100% faith in SA.

      My bad.

      I remember you being one of the first, if not THE first, who dared to question LE. I was impressed. At the time John P believed in only God, Jeff, and LE, and took you to task. You held your own.

      It is certainly your prerogative to believe in SA. I just don't believe you do so 100%.

      Hope you are well.

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  34. It is my opinion that Justin Dipietro knows exactly what happened to Ayla and knows where she is at this moment. It is my belief that he has known since she disappeared. Of course, it is also my opinion that he never wanted any children (I come by that opinion from information I received from family members of his children). Justin never wanted babies, he just wanted sex partners. When he was saddled with Ayla, he was angry, he disposed of her. That's my opinion, no one has to agree and no one can cause me to believe anything different. Well, Justin could, but we all know he won't even try. Sick guy he is.

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