Thursday, March 14, 2013

Guest Submission-From MW of Bring Baby Ayla and Baby Lisa Home



"Since Ayla first went missing, there has been a pretty clear division between groups of supporters. WHY? Can't we all have our own views and beliefs without seeing others who feel differently as enemies or opposing forces? We all care about Ayla, and want her to come home. We should be working together to see that she does. It's not too late! When an olive branch is offered, take it. Think of it as Ayla's little hand, reaching out and pulling us all together. For this precious baby, we MUST set our egos and personal affronts aside. Let go of resentment and open up to unity and cohesiveness. PLEASE, Ayla needs us ALL.

I'm just so sad to continually see nastiness and separatism between groups of people who all want Ayla home. I don't understand it. It's not even like it's non-purposeful, either. It's a conscious choice, which has been stated very clearly by some. How does that help Ayla? The more of us that come together for Ayla, the stronger we are. It is beyond egotistical to think that all Ayla needs is one group or another. This "We got this, we don't want or need you" attitude is just awful. Honestly it makes me worse than angry; it makes me feel even more devastated for Ayla. The self-centered grudges and blind assumptions are unbelievable.

To those who stubbornly maintain the divide; whether or not you realize it, by refusing to let go of the drama and past insult (whether actual or perceived), you are shifting energy and focus from Ayla to yourselves. Ayla is already missing, must she become lost in the midst of drama and grudges as well? Don't you think that Ayla deserves for all of us to look past our own experiences and hard feelings, to pull together for HER?

This is just something that has been weighing heavily on my heart, and I hope that everyone who reads this will answer yes to that last question. Please… if you are holding hard feelings, put them aside for Ayla. Take a step forward, and then another, and then another. Don’t look back at any negativity. Look forward with hope and purpose. Look to either side of you for the support of your peers who have joined you in the quest for JUSTICE FOR AYLA!

Thank you, ~MW~"



 


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  1. MW,

    I commend you for this guest submission. It is truely a masterfully writen post.

    "Ayla is already missing, must she become lost in the midst of drama and grudges as well? Don't you think that Ayla deserves for all of us to look past our own experiences and hard feelings, to pull together for HER?"

    I know I have been guilty of holding grudges MW, and for that I apologize to Ayla Bell for losing focus in those instances. We can all work together for a common goal, though each of us will and can still look for that goal in a different way! It is the common end goal that matters, as you said. "Justice For Ayla"

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    1. Hey John, maybe you should apologize to some of the people that you have demonized and trashed on your blog and be sincere about it. Maybe they would let go of their "grudge" with I really think is more of a distrust that leads to self preservation and protective behavior. It is true that people should be able to work together. It is also true that a decent human being that's been dragged through the mud for no reason other than they put their time, effort and heart into Ayla, should not have to swallow huge amounts of crap. Everyone has their own way of helping. No one should be asked to put themselves in a position that makes them uncomfortable or compromises their beliefs and morals. To even ask someone to be a part of something that puts them in a position like that is wrong. Yes, it would be Fantastic if everyone was on the same page but we're not. There are three pages in this book. The "Ayla is alive" page, the "Ayla is dead" page and the "sitting on the fence" page. The first two groups are both very strong in their opinions. Someone please explain to me how these two groups could possibly work together when one is focused on spreading Ayla's face all over the world and the other is focused on prosecuting a murder? Declaring her dead interferes with creating awareness to find a live child. Can we stay on or separate sides of the sandbox and go about our business? Yup, I think so but two different groups with two different goals that contradict each other can not logically work together, IMO. Please feel free to explain to me if I'm wrong.

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    2. I thought that everyone's ultimate goal was to find Ayla and to see her brought home. That's what it should be, anyway.

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    3. MW, that would be fantastic! I wish that was Everyones goal. Read the blogs and Facebook pages and you can clearly see that it isn't. I agree though, it should be everyone's goal to find Ayla and bring her home. Of course, I mean find her ALIVE and bring her home to her entire family. NOT find her body and bring it home for a funeral. There in lies the difference in opinions in many people following this case.

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    4. Well, I guess that's the difference between me and both dominant groups. I don't firmly believe that she's dead, or that she's alive. I know that both are possible, and I think that every avenue should be explored and every outcome prepared for. I know that's not a popular view, and I've upset quite a few people on either side saying that, because their beliefs in one or the other are strong. But for me, I cannot believe anything, only that Ayla needs to be found and be able to return to her loved ones. And that can happen either way, unfortunately. Nobody except for whoever hurt/took her knows if she is alive or deceased, and I accept that. What I cannot accept is her being out there when she should be home, either living happily or resting at peace. Obviously I hope and pray for the latter though.

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    5. OMG, I meant the FORMER!!!!! SORRY!

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    6. It's been a long day. Ugh, that typing mistake made me dizzy after I saw it :-(

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    7. Eh, I figured you meant the former ;) I would hope that everyone is wanting her to be alive. I personally, have no issue with anyone who can't make up their mind as long as they keep talking about her, asking questions and sharing her pictures.

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    8. I think that is the most important part, even more so than who is guilty or what happened, keeping her name out there and not letting the public forget who she is. MSP will solve this case not bloggers and it isn't our place to try and solve it or muddy the waters.

      I think realistically us all working together isn't going to work but if you would have asked me 6 months ago if I thought a blog where all views were welcomed and where every came together to discuss Ayla would ever be a possibility and I would have said no but look where we are now so who knows?

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    9. I know this post seems unrealistic and idealistic, but a person can hope, right? But this is just what I hope for, second to Ayla going home to her family, of course. I hope that people can overcome for her and come together to increase awareness about her.

      I try to keep the goals I hope for simple, so that with almost any variable, the outcome I've been hoping for is a positive one. (1) I hope that Ayla is found and returned to her loved ones. (2) I hope that there is justice for Ayla and what she's been through.

      I don't attach any specific expectations to those hopes, because then it would feel like my energy and prayers aren't flowing directly into those main goals. I can't say "THIS person needs to pay", because if it turns out that it's not really "that" person, then I feel like more energy has flowing toward that person for no reason (which means it was negative energy) than is going into the actual goal, which is for the true person or people who harmed/took Ayla to answer for what they've done.

      I hope people don't read into that and think that I am supporting one person or another, because I'm not. I only support Ayla, and want my energy and prayers going toward her and not proving the things I may believe.

      I hope that made sense, it does to me, but then again I am so tired tonight.

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    10. True that on all accounts, Tori!

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    11. Tori, don't fool yourself.

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    12. "Yup, I think so but two different groups with two different goals that contradict each other can not logically work together, IMO. Please feel free to explain to me if I'm wrong."

      You don't have two different goals, you are all looking for Ayla. One group looking high, one group looking low. Since either could be the truth, isn't it good to look everywhere?

      What if we only look for an alive Ayla, but she is deceased? What if we only look for a deceased Ayla but she is alive? Where is the justice to Ayla in either of those?

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    13. Justice For Ayla, that is the goal. It does not matter what you believe concerning weather she is alive or not, that is for each of to decide and hopefully discuss in a calm fashion. But if "Ayla" was kidnapped, then that person(s) responsible must be brought to Justice. If Ayla was harmed, then the person(s) responsible for that must be brought to Justice! If you are like the author of this post, you have formed an opinion to remain undecided as to weather or not Ayla is alive or not, but you still feel the person responsible must be brought to Justice regardless of the outcome. Bottom line, if Ayla is alive or not, she MUST HAVE JUSTICE! That is how all groups, all pages and all blogs with differing opinions are able to work together. Keep Ayla in the spotlight until Justice For Ayla can be achieved!

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    14. Anon 7:45am, EXACTLY what I've been trying to get at. We have to look for her, PERIOD. We cannot be so sure of ourselves and our own beliefs that we ignore the possibility that the truth is different than what we had thought. Ayla needs to be found and returned home. If we look for Ayla, alive or deceased, there is a greater chance for her to be found. Those who are completely set in their particular beliefs will not agree. "It won't increase the chances because it would be pointless to look for her alive when she is dead" or "She's alive, so there is no point in looking for her deceased". How exactly can anyone KNOW? They may believe, but cannot possibly KNOW unless they were involved in what happened. In which case, I hope they speak up to LE.

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    15. I wholeheartedly agree. There shouldn't be a division of "sides", at least until we have answers we would logically need to create those two sides. And then even there may be three sides, the Trista, the Justin, and the perp. That last choice however is only if there is a person responsible for this situation outside of Ayla's parents. But what I'd love to see is the Ayla side- one who supports Trista and Justin and not just one or the other. We've all witnessed them in public together, and they clearly can be in each other's presence long enough to appeal to the public for their daughter, I just wish with everything I can that they would do that again. Seeing them together brought a whole new realm of hope for me last year that they may be able to put their differences aside.

      That being said... my son is the product of a situation quite like Justin and Trista's. His father and I are friendly, but we don't talk at all. I know that if something happened to our son, things would be strange, awkward and uncomfortable for both of us, and I don't know if we'd be able to make public pleas or appearances together. So I guess the saying is true, you just don't know how you'd react until you're placed in that spot.

      MW, I praise you for being able to, in a roundabout way, tell everyone to put their big-kid panties on and stand for whats important here- AYLA BELL. So thank you

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    16. Thank you Katie, I too would love to see both Trista and Justin speak together about Ayla. That would be wonderful. And I love how you put it about the different sides or view-points, and how that what we all need to focus on is the Ayla Side. There's nothing at all wrong with believing in a certain view, but the main focus should always be Ayla, and we should be able to work together for her, differences aside.

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    17. Katie says:

      "But what I'd love to see is the Ayla side- one who supports Trista and Justin and not just one or the other. We've all witnessed them in public together, and they clearly can be in each other's presence long enough to appeal to the public for their daughter, I just wish with everything I can that they would do that again. Seeing them together brought a whole new realm of hope for me last year that they may be able to put their differences aside."

      With all respect, do you really and truly expect Trista Reynolds at this point, (almost a year later into the investigation of her daughter, Ayla's disappearance and presumed likely death), to even entertain the idea of pretending to be all hunky dory with the man who law enforcement has told her is responsible for her daughter, Ayla's, disappearance and likely death in public? Besides, considering the fact that Justin DiPietro has refused to speak publicly about Ayla for almost a year, (April 2012), on his own, WHY would he all of a sudden do it now with Ayla's mother? Please, let's be realistic here. I would love for Ayla to be alive and well somewhere just as much as anybody else, but it is really hard to ignore what conclusions the joined forces of the Waterville Police Department, the Maine State Police, and the FBI have come to after several months of experienced investigation, numerous searches, and the careful analysis of 100's of pieces of evidence. While the majority of the public believe that law enforcement has conducted a very thorough investigation and trust what they have revealed to the public to be accurate information, that doesn't in anyway mean that people have given up looking for Ayla!

      I will continue to respectfully disagree with what I find to be misleading and ludicrous on this blog. That is not anything personal against you or anyone else. One can definitely support Ayla and justice for Ayla while NOT supporting a man--Justin DiPietro--who refuses to speak out for his daughter, Ayla. Respectfully, IMO.

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    18. Anon Today,

      "I will continue to respectfully disagree with what I find to be misleading and ludicrous on this blog".

      Respectfully, what is said on this blog are people's thoughts, opinions and feelings.
      Each person has their thoughts and feelings, and they differ. However, they are NOT misleading and ludicrous.
      Facts can be wrong, but one's personal feelings can never be wrong.

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    19. "But what I'd love to see is the Ayla side- one who supports Trista and Justin and not just one or the other"

      I could never support Justin, unless he was honest about what happened to Ayla. I believe (as LE has stated) that he is not being totally truthful about what happened to Ayla, that he is hiding something from LE and from all of us. How could you expect anyone who believes LE, to show any support for someone that is not being truthful about what he knows?

      Justin has not (in my opinion) done anything to earn any public's trust or support. If that is what people want to see, let Justin come out from hiding and talk to us. He won't, he's hiding something.

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    20. I think both sides of the family are hurting with Ayla missing,lets pray she comes home soon and all our questions be answered. Justice for sweet Ayla.

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    21. AnonymousMarch 16, 2013 at 12:56 PM:

      IN MY OPINION, it IS both misleading and ludicrous to make statements that one should support BOTH Trista and Justin when one chooses to believe the lead investigative organization, (the MSP), in the case of misssing child, Ayla Bell Reynolds, when they have repeatedly stated that the paternal family has not been forthcoming regarding what happened to Ayla in Phoebe DiPietro's home. It is also, IN MY OPINION, both misleading and ludicrous to suggest that Trista reach out to Justin and appear in public with the man who LE has told her is one of the individual's responsible for her daughter's demise. To suggest that someone is not on the "Ayla side" because they don't support Justin, is both misleading and ludicrous, IN MY OPINION. I will continue to be respectful, but I will not agree with or support such comments--thank you!

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    22. Anon Today...is it not possible that a third party could be responsible? Why has this somehow been reduced to a Trista vs. Justin tug-of-war?

      Whatever LE has, it is clearly not enough to make a swift arrest. Recently, Detective Jeffrey Love asked for tips from the public. Of course, tips have always been welcome. But McCausland didn't request tips at the press conference.

      I found that unusual.

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    23. Anon Today,
      I understand this is your opinion.
      Do you think that your opinions and feelings are misleading and ludicrous? Of course not.
      In the same light, neither are the opinions and feelings of others.
      You don't have to agree with or support any comment that you choose not to. You shouldn't.
      I don't agree with some of your comments, but I'm not going to call them misleading and ludicrous.
      Thank you to you too.


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    24. I stick by my belief that the comments that I pointed out are both misleading and ludicrous. If anyone wants to question any comments I have made or call them misleading or ludicrous, I don't have any ego to bruise. That is different than being hostile or attacking someone's character, which I have never done, nor do I intend to.

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    25. Anon Today,
      That's okay, I'll just agree to disagree.

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    26. mckeekitty,
      I believe that LE has made it pretty clear who they have determined is responsible for Ayla's demise. They have not retracted anything to date in what they have stated to the public. That along with the blood evidence released by LE, the numerous red flags, (in my opinion), and the lack of any noticeable concerns for Ayla's well-being by Justin, (again, in my opinion), lead me to believe that an abduction did not occur. As has been the case in several other missing children cases, an arrest or arrests have not been made--nothing new there. This has been discussed ad nauseam; usually they are reluctant to make arrests without a body, (hate to say that in relation to this sweet baby). I do hope that they move forward soon in spite of not having yet found Ayla. Oh, and even when LE believes they know who committed a crime, they still normally ask for tips. I don't personally find anything even remotely unusual about that. It is also still very important to keep Ayla's name and picture in the public's eye; that is the best way to keep the public from forgetting about Ayla, and that she is still missing.

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    27. AnonymousMarch 16, 2013 at 6:39 PM, nothing personal towards you. No hard feelings! We can definitely agree to disagree.

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  2. The only way that Ayla will receive justice is when the paternal family of Ayla and Courtney Roberts reveal her location. I will continue to follow the waterville PD, the MSP, and the FBI's lead--thank you.

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    1. Of course it could be that the paternal family doesn't know where Ayla is.

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    2. Anonymous March 15, 2013 at 5:00 PM said: "Of course it could be that the paternal family doesn't know where Ayla is."

      Anything is possible..... However,I believe that it is "highly unlikely" that Ayla's paternal family is "telling everything they know" regarding Ayla's disappearance..... I also don't believe nothing happened to Ayla "other than she was taken."

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    3. Anonymous,

      Yes anything is possible. Believing is one thing, knowing is quite another.
      Hopefully, we will all KNOW, sooner rathher than later, what happened to Ayla.

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  3. I never said that people should not support LE or believe what they believe. I simply said that people of all beliefs should put their differences aside to work together to increase awareness for Ayla and show their support.

    This neutral post will not be taken as it is meant to those who are keeping the hostilities going. The tendency will be to automatically become defensive, read things into it that don't exist, and think that it's against you and them beliefs. It's not at all. It's the opposite. In this post, I am saying it would be great if everyone could put aside all of that for Ayla's sake.

    It isn't as if I'm saying to go against your beliefs or embrace each other as brothers and sisters, just to show a mutual respect for one another for Ayla's sake. What's so unreasonable about that? I think that anyone who thinks that is unreasonable is being unreasonable themselves, and selfish.

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    1. *them and their beliefs* I meant.

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    2. I do agree with you that people should be civil to each other. I am civil and respectful, and I believe that it is basic courtesy. Thank you.

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  4. Okay and then where do we go? Back to the beginning? Do we post hypothetical theories?

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    1. Who knows where we go from here? We continue to discuss Ayla, some days we might agree with what has been posted here, some days we might not but we continue to talk about her and ask questions and hope for answers and hope she gets justice or better yet hope she comes home.

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  5. All we are saying.....is give peace a chance.....

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    1. Can't we all get along?

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    2. We can be. I feel like we are all friends. Friends for Ayla.

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  6. This is a very nice post, and a great sentiment.

    I think most want to be civil and respectful, but at times emotions get in the way. Afterall we are human and our emotions play a role in how we respond to something.
    It is hard not to become defensive when someone tells you that you're wrong for believing as you do. Understandable.
    We should all try to agree to disagree civilly though. Ayla deserves that.

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    1. I know it's hard not to become defensive in that situation, but we also have to really stop and think if we're really being told that what we believe is wrong, or if someone is just disagreeing because they think differently. There's a difference, but people don't usually see it, and so take offense.

      And I agree, she does deserve for us all to be able to agree to disagree. She deserves that and so much more.

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    2. I will agree this will be a good thing. I just hope this site does not adopt the practice of editing and putting everyone in moderation that has a different opinion than John P or people who are his regulars on U4A. This is not stated with sarcasm or malice to any of them.just a hope and voice for Ayla.

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    3. I don't think that will happen. If it does, I'm not coming here anymore. Tori didn't start this blog to be moderated and biased though, so I really think that everyone is welcome here, and I love that.

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    4. Dana B...Couldn't you have stopped at "I will agree this will be a good thing." There was no reason to bring up John P or U4A. You know that Tori and Katie have kept this blog open to everyone and all opinions. The rest of your comment was a not so subtle dig and it's things like that that perpetuate the divide.

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    5. Thank you, Dee.

      Dana B - this blog will NOT become like that, as long as I have a hand in it. There is too much important discussion being done here between two VERY separate sides. There is only hope for things getting better, not getting worse. Trust me.

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    6. Thank you Katie

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    7. Thank you Katie it is good to know there will be no attacking from either side. That will be a plus.I know I have been guilty for lashing back and I don't like that part of it. Frustration makes us crazy sometimes.

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    8. Dee can you stop at just saying Justin doesn't speak out enough?

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    9. Dana, there you go again. The difference is that I was speaking my opinion on something directly involving this case. I wasn't bringing other blogs or people that post on them into it.

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    10. "Dana, there you go again. The difference is that I was speaking my opinion on something directly involving this case. I wasn't bringing other blogs or people that post on them into it."

      EXACTLY!

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    11. Only asking a question both times no digs intended sorry if you feel that way.Just trying to look at it from the other person position.

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    12. Anon what I stated about John and other blog was my opinion of how I was treated talking about this case and defending my opinion. Hoping I wouldn't have to do it here that is all. No digs intended.

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    13. I think what we are all trying to say is, that we will not always like what we read here, but just try to respect that it is someone's opinion. I like that we can do that and not have all the hate and drama.

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    14. I agree it is nice.

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  7. I believe as long as there are family and friends that speak out for Ayla, and some that dont speak out for Ayla emotions will always run high. Most people have strong opinions about what happened to Ayla,and also feel the need to express them, no matter who is the target.
    But what i find that is a disservice to Ayla is the paternal side not speaking out for Ayla..especially if they still maintain she was abducted..or do they still maintain that claim? See that is what is so frustrating to me. And using the excuse that they are lawyered up..therefore they no longer speak..is IMO not doing Ayla any justice.

    But then who i am i? I am someone with no ties to Ayla or her family.. just a person with a heart that only wants to see Ayla found and justice brought forth.

    And the adults on these blogs, well they can defend themselves..because you see the only true, real victim in this case is Ayla.

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    1. They obviously aren't using that lawyer for a spokesperson. If they aren't speaking and their lawyer isn't speaking, what is being hidden? If a person has nothing to hide, they don't usually lawyer up. JMO

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    2. I think it is wise for anyone undergoing questioning and srutiny by LE to have an antorney for advise. I don't care who you are or what the situation is.

      Having an antorney does not neccessarily stop one from speaking.

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    3. sorry...attorney

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    4. "But what i find that is a disservice to Ayla is the paternal side not speaking out for Ayla..especially if they still maintain she was abducted..or do they still maintain that claim? See that is what is so frustrating to me. And using the excuse that they are lawyered up..therefore they no longer speak..is IMO not doing Ayla any justice."

      "And the adults on these blogs, well they can defend themselves..because you see the only true, real victim in this case is Ayla."

      You hit the nail on the head with these comments..... BINGO!

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    5. Yes Ayla is the victim.

      My heart tells me, and feels, that her family members are as well.
      Any parent and grandparent who has had their child taken from them by foul play is a victim.
      Whether that be the death of, or a kidnapping of, their child.

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    6. Yes Anonymous 12:40 i also do agree parents and grandparents are victims when their loved one is"taken" away from them as long as they are not involved in the "disappearance" of said child. Taking an active roll, at all costs, in locating, pleading, begging for your child back should be continued effort on the families part until their loved one is found. IMO
      And i would love to see Trista and Justin come together, as her parents, and speak out for their beautiful daughter.
      That to me, would break down the walls between both sides, and accepting of the "olive branch"
      So i would hope friends and family that both speak out for Justin and Trista..would encourage them to come together, as parents for Aylas sake, and speak for her.

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    7. I don't think Trista should go anywhere near Justin Dipietro. She needs to protect her other two children, and the best way to do that is to get a restraining order against him and the two other evil doers that had control of her baby that freezing fateful night. She needs to protect her children by keeping them far away from all of those people who habitate 29 Violette Ave. Waterville and keep her children away from their friends and alibis and supporters. Especially those that work at State Farm Insurance company and sold a Life Insurance Policy to pay out on her daughter's death, without her knowledge or approval. Oh by the way, I think Phoebe should hand over the so called savings account she started for Ayla. I bet Phoebe never started that account. I bet it was all a lie. A fraud perpetuated by the Dipietros and Tudela's against a parent who thought a good thing was happening for her baby. Tudela State Farm Insurance business shouldn't be allowed to use babies SSI numbers to sell policies against their life, without both parents approval. That was what Trista was told as to why Ayla's SSI number was used. Tudela's State Farm Agency used her baby's SSI number to sell a policy that pays out $25,000.00 when Ayla dies, without Trista's knowledge or approval. Talk about fraud. And, Trista's baby Ayla gets all bloody and broken and disappears just a very few days later. Trista, needs to stay far away from those people, and do not let the Tudela's or Dipietro's get ahold of any of her other two kids SSI numbers. Trista still had legal custody of Ayla. Justin had temporary physical custody per DHHS. She really go screwed over by those people. They had her baby 59 days, and couldn't even take care of her. If I was Trista I would keep my children as far away from Watervill as I could. I am glad she has a civil rights lawyer now. I wonder why Elisha and Phoebe got that Criminal Lawyer so quickly? I bet Justin and Courtney and Derek have a criminal lawyer on standby. Well of course Derek does, the Tudela's probably have a family lawyer on standby for both Derek and Justin. Poor Lance gets a Public Defender when he defends the families honor and secrets. I hope he is doing well, far far away from the secrets and madness. Are all the Dipietros emotionally incapable of publically calling out for the baby they lost?

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    8. Great post, Suz I really don't understand how anybody can ignore the fact that the DiPietros refuse to speak out for Ayla.

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    9. Thanks Anon 2:57 Am The only reason I can think of for all the times JD has said no comment to the press and the times he has told reporters to "Go F.CK yourself" is that he wants her memory to fade away like dust in the wind.

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    10. Almost a year since he has spoken her name to the public to the local press.

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    11. "Tudela State Farm Insurance business shouldn't be allowed to use babies SSI numbers to sell policies against their life, without both parents approval.

      I absolutely agree. NO Insurance company should be allowed to sell a life insurance policy on any child without BOTH parents permission. This would be something to work on with the insurance industry to make this change (if it hasn't already been suggested) That would be one positive that could come out of Ayla being gone.

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    12. Here is a good place to start.

      http://www.maine.gov/pfr/insurance/

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    13. Whether Phoebe opened a savings account for Ayla, as she told Trista she was doing with the SSI number is easy enough for LE to find out. Little lies here and there all add up to one big lie and a missing Ayla.

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    14. " the times he (Justin) has told reporters to "Go F.CK yourself""

      Sounds like anger issues to me.

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    15. Do you guys seriously think Justin didn't have the right to have his daughter's SSN? Anyone with an insurable interest in a person (if your finances would be impacted by the death or disability of a person) can start a life insurance policy on that person. I can technically start one on my boss if I wanted (he'd have to sign the paperwork, given that he's an adult, but still).

      And please show me where Justin told reporters to "go fuck yourselves" will you?

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    16. "go fuck yourself" that is.

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    17. the space betweenMarch 17, 2013 at 9:25 PM

      Justin was determined to be Ayla's father in late 2010 and owed back child support. I remember reading somewhere that he got Ayla's SSN from Trista in 2010, not 2011. If he paid any back child support in 2010 - isn't there a section of the tax return that asks how much child support was paid the previous year? If he reported those amounts, as well as the amount of time Ayla lived with him those years, I believe it's true he would not get a deduction for that - but should still accurately report it. Also, didn't Derek say that the insurance Justin had on Ayla was the same he had on his child? A policy that could be converted when the child reached 18 in order to pay for college? Might Phoebe have such a policy for Gabby?

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    18. There is no place on a tax return to report child support paid or received. It is not a taxable event.

      Justin wouldn't have found out about Ayla and ordered to pay child support for her until Nov. 2010, a bit too late to claim her in 2011 for 2010. He only had her for a few months in 2011, and she disappeared in Dec., so he wouldn't have been eligible to claim her in 2012 for that year either.

      Trista lied about how Justin got Ayla's SSN. First she said he got it in October so Phoebe could open an account, then she said he stole it earlier so he could claim Ayla on his taxes.

      He probably got it from the court paperwork he received regarding her paternity and child support. Either that, or Trista flat out gave it him.

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    19. Actually, the IRS looks at what the custody situation is on the last day of the calendar year. Justin could have conceivably claimed Ayla for both tax years mentioned if it was not opposed, and he either knows how to get away with it or has somebody advising him. I could imagine a situation, (theoretical), in which Trista, (due to naivety and/or a lack of formal eudcation), in which she would not know enough about taxes to protest Justin doing such a thing.

      Regarding what you claim that Trista lied about, would you please provide a link or proof of this? Otherwise, it is just hearsay, speculation, or a lame attempt to once again badmouth Trista Reynolds. Thanks.

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    20. Excuse me, 'education'.....

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    21. I should have also mentioned in my comments, that ethically a tax filer is supposed to only claim a dependent on their tax return if they have had the dependent in their custody for the majority of the time during a given calendar year. However, unless it is challenged by the other parent, (who is not likely to challenge it if they are not familiar with the IRS rules and regulations), they will get away with it. It happens quite frequently, actually.

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    22. There is nothing wrong with Justin having or knowing Ayla's SSN. He is her father. If he wanted to know it all he had to do was apply to the SSA, proving he is Ayla's father.

      Trista did say in an interview that Justin ask her for Ayla's SSN so that Pheobe could open a savings account for her. This was in 2011, according to Trista. She also said that Justin did want to claim Ayla on his income tax return for the year 2011. She also implied he could not do that.

      Actually if he paid child support in 2011, and Trista had no wage income, he probably could have claimed her. Since there was no legal agreement that stipulated who would claim Ayla on income tax returns. (and I don't think there was) It would have been the right of whoever provided more monetarily for Ayla.

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    23. Actually legally even if Justin paid to majority of money Trista still would be the one eligible to claim her because she had physical custody for the majority of the year. The IRS doesn't go by who paid more in child support, they go by who had the child the most out of the year and provided day to day care

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    24. Tori, re: physical custody most of the year - I believe that mainly applies to earned income credit. It's been some time since I've helped someone with taxes that collected child support, but if I recall, if the non-primary custodial parent works and pays more than half of the child's support they can claim that child as a deduction (NOT on earned income credit, but as a dependent). I have not heard that Trista worked to support her children.

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    25. Yes you are correct, if Trista didnt claim taxes because she had no income then she couldn't apply for EIC and Justin could claim her as a dependent and if Trista was collecting TANF not sure if they have to claim that as income or not

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    26. "Actually if he paid child support in 2011, and Trista had no wage income, he probably could have claimed her. Since there was no legal agreement that stipulated who would claim Ayla on income tax returns. (and I don't think there was) It would have been the right of whoever provided more monetarily for Ayla."

      Actually, you are completely incorrect. The parent who is the primary custodian of the child(ren) for the maximum amount of time in the calendar year--regardless of Trista's income or lack of income--is the only individual who can LEGALLY claim the child(ren) on their tax return. That is, unless Trista filled out and signed a form, (8332), giving permission to Justin. As I stated previously, it is unethical but it happens quite frequently that a noncustodial parent will take it upon themselves to claim a child in lieu of the aforementioned form. If the custodial parent is not aware of their rights, the noncustodial parent can oftentimes get away with it. Think about it--the IRS does not have the manpower to check on every person in the United States.

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    27. I forgot to mention the fact that if a custodial parent lives with his/her child(ren) and another working adult in the same household, that person--with The custodial parent's permission--can legally claim the custodial parent and his/her children as dependents on his/her tax return.

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    28. Anonymous, 11:49
      Thanks for the correction.
      I'm actually glad to know that laws have changed or been put in place for this situation.
      About 25 years ago my x was able to claim our daughter on his income tax return even though I was the custodial parent.
      In that particular year my income was minimal, and the amount he paid in child support was more than 1/2 of what I earned.
      According to IRS, at that time, he was within his rights to do so.

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    29. I'm not going to supply links. Get off your lazy butt and look it up yourself and then come back and apologize. Trista could give Justin permission but then she would still be lying. Either he conned her out of the ssn to start a savings acct. or he stole it to claim her on his taxes. One of those is a lie so Trista lied. This is not an attack, it is truth. Why did Trista lie?

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    30. " Michelle says : ..And please show me where Justin told reporters to "go fuck yourselves" will you?"

      The message from a reporter to justin where justin was asked for an interview where the reporter offered, anywhere, anytime, and all questions could be chosen by justin was answered by justin with this message, "Eat shit"

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    31. Well, Sunny Anonymous at 5:20 am. If you make claims, be prepared to prove it. I'm not lazy for not searching for nonexistent proof, but thank you for your kind suggestion.

      Chicky, so now it's morphed into "eat shit"? Which is it? Who made the claim that it was said? Where's the solid proof?

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    32. It's both, Go Fuck yourself and Eat Shit two different occasions. You must not be following this case much or just hear what you want to hear.

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    33. For Whoever ask,

      From CBG's article ..Trista Reynolds:DHHS Blew Me Off

      "Justin asked for Ayla's social security number so Phoebe could open a college account like she had for [Ayla's cousin] Gabby," Trista said. But once he got the number, he used it to buy life insurance. He also used it to try to claim a tax deduction.

      In 2010, Justin wanted to claim Ayla as a dependent, Trista noted, but she objected because Ayla lived with her, not him. For 2011, armed with Ayla's social security number, Justin went ahead and filed, Trista said, but the deduction didn't hold up since Ayla hadn't spent six months in the DiPietro household."

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    34. Suz,
      Some people pay little or no attention to Facebook and Blog rumor and gossip.

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    35. Yeah, I don't read all the hearsay and crap at u4a & Facebook if that's what you call "following the case." Apparently I'm not going to get any actual proof this was said.

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    36. AnonymousMarch 18, 2013 at 5:20 AM says:

      "I'm not going to supply links. Get off your lazy butt and look it up yourself and then come back and apologize."

      Is it because I pointed out your incorrect information regarding tax filing regulations that you feel the need to resort to personal insults? WHY would anyone apologize to you for requesting that you back up what you claim? FYI, as a mother, professional business owner, and graduate student, I am anything but lazy. Some people do not have time to chase down internet rumors and innuendos on Facebook pages and blogs. Have a great day!

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    37. Anonymous 1:58 pm.

      Too many anonymous
      This anonymous (me) was the one with the incorrect tax information, and later thanked you for the correction. However I am NOT the anonymous who suggested someone was lazy.
      From now on I'll be anonymous 1

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    38. Quotes from reporters, nothing to do with Facebook or the 3 weird blogs

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    39. Anonymous 1, thank you. I post as ANON TODAY, put often when I am in a hurry or forget, my postings are under Anonymous. I realized that it wasn't you who lashed out in frustration. Your appreciation for the correct information was obviously genuine. I know that tax law can be both tricky and perplexing for many people. I am sorry that your ex-husband was able to do that twenty-five years ago. One can't put a price tag on the day to day work involved in being a good parent. It is definitely more involved than who has the bigger income.

      I meant to respond to your thank you; I just got caught up in other things--sorry.

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    40. Type in Ayla Reynolds in the Morning Sentinal online do something constructive instead of defending not so upfront hotheads who can't take care of a baby for 59 days.

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    41. Michelle, The, "Eat shit" response was a text message that I saw for myslef. believe it or not, it's up to you.

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    42. 'but', not 'put'.....

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    43. "For Whoever ask,

      From CBG's article ..Trista Reynolds:DHHS Blew Me Off

      'Justin asked for Ayla's social security number so Phoebe could open a college account like she had for [Ayla's cousin] Gabby," Trista said. But once he got the number, he used it to buy life insurance. He also used it to try to claim a tax deduction.

      In 2010, Justin wanted to claim Ayla as a dependent, Trista noted, but she objected because Ayla lived with her, not him. For 2011, armed with Ayla's social security number, Justin went ahead and filed, Trista said, but the deduction didn't hold up since Ayla hadn't spent six months in the DiPietro household.'"

      Thank you for the information. Now, where are the lies in what Trista stated? It sounds like Justin went ahead and attempted to file with Ayla as a dependent, (according to Trista), and he didn't get away with it. There are different scenarios in which this could have happened. One scenario, (hypothetical), is that Trista allowed a relative, partner, or friend living in the same household as Trista and Ayla to claim them as dependents, and Justin's tax return with Ayla's dependency information was rejected. Please note, my example is purely hypothetical.

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    44. I can believe that Justin sent this reply to a certain reporter.
      I ask myself why would he do that? It seems logical to me that there might be some animosity between Justin and this reporter for some reason.
      I'd like to know the circumstances surrounding this before drawing a conclusion.

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    45. I've always believed the Dipietro's motivation to have Ayla was monetary. 1) so Justin wouldn't have to pay child support to Trista (a control issue) 2) So, she could be used as a tax deduction.

      No love or caring for Ayla there. :(

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    46. I wrote and asked this question to the bureau of Insurance in Maine:

      I was wondering where one would check to see what the laws are on insuring the life of a child.

      I was told that it is legal for a parent to take a life insurance policy out on a child without getting the other parents permission first. Is this true?

      And if it is true, where would one start if they wanted to suggest a law that would require both (living) parents have to sign on a child's life insurance policy?

      The response:

      Please see 24-A M.R.S.A. sections 2404 and 2408 which should address your question. Our understanding is that the answer to your question is “yes”, a parent can buy life insurance on his or her minor child without the consent of the other parent.

      The provisions we have attached are statutes enacted by the legislature and can only be amended by them. We would suggest your local legislator would be the best person for you to speak with.

      We hope this is helpful.

      Thomas M. Record
      Senior Staff Attorney
      Maine Bureau of Insurance
      (207)624-8424


      My personal belief is that both parents should have to sign or acknowledge when anyone buys insurance on their child, even each other.

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  8. Dana B. I cannot imagine that John P. put you, of all people, in moderation! What have you ever said from your happy fence position that could possibly upset anybody? Nothing stated here with sarcasm and malice against John P. and U4A. But why state it, then? A bit passive-agressive aren't we?

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    1. Don't bother the anger is checked at the door it won't work.

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    2. Continue to look for Ayla.

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    3. Dana B. I'm still looking for that Ayla Missing billboard supposedly in Washington State somehwere. Wish TLLOM could have been more specific in just where it was placed in my state! Certainly not on the main highways upon which I travel for work. And not in some of the secondary byways. Of course, I can't cover all the nooks and crannies of my state. But if an address had been given, or more specifics!

      What are you doing to look for Ayla from 3000 miles away from Maine? Just curious.

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    4. Looking in every walmart and store I go into. Every restaurant and where ever I see children. I am a long ways from Washington State also so haven't seen any billboards you are looking for. Have you tried contacting them to ask where they put them up? Seems as though someone could tell you if you are serious about finding them. You just need to ask the right people.

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    5. Anon 4:54 Tori said the billboards were in fact on at one point in your state they were free as they were electronic, but as customers buy time on billboards Ayla was up for a limited time. The other thing I do is pray for closure to this case and pray Ayla will be found alive. I know it isn't much but being retired on social security limits my travel to Maine. My children however have remote camps in the north woods above Waterville. They hunt and 4 wheel all over the place on paper company roads and keep an eye out for anything that doesn't look right. Hope I have helped with your curiosity and I can understand it.

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    6. AnonymousMarch 16, 2013 at 4:54 PM, I had the same problem here in Oregon. I have never seen an "Ayla Missing" billboard here. Back then, when I asked about it the answers were very defensive and vague. I didn't see the ones that they claimed were in San Francisco when I was there either. I thought that I was asking the right people too--Angela herself as a matter-of-fact. I even posted a link for an article that was in the paper here about free exposure on a billboard for missing children along the I-5, I believe it was.

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    7. I had the same problem here in California. I travelled all over Southern California. From Los Angeles, all over Orange County, Riverside County, Kern County, including where the Diepietro's used to live in 29 Palms. I went down to Temecula, out to Palm Springs up to the High Desert (Victorville, Lancaster) Up and down all the freeways from the 14 to the 5 to the 405 to the 55 to the 91 to the 10 to the 15 and never saw a billboard for Ayla. I had to travel for family and for work. Not one billboard did I see, in the past 15 months.

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    8. Exactly, Suz. When I asked where the billboards for Ayla were here in Oregon, I was told that they weren't up any longer. When I asked where they had been placed, I received no response.

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  9. Tell me More,If you are going to ask for apologies why not ask all groups,do you think a group that claims on a poster that Ayla is kidnapped should apolgize to LE since they have clearly stated that did not happen? They have put more time, effort and heart into finding Ayla than any of us have. Did the group think about LE's feelings when they made that claim?

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  10. Tell me more I was not judging the group for making the kidnapping poster.It is their opinion, I'm just asking why do you feel it is wrong for an other group to have a different opinion and think they should apolgize for it?

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    1. I don't think anyone should apologize for their opinion. Some people should apologize for spreading hate. It's that simple. I don't care if LE likes someone's flier. The flier is at least an effort to find Ayla. One I might add, that was immediately attacked by John. Why would John do that? All that matters is her have being seen. Why go looking for reasons to bash another group if all that matters is finding Ayla? Why not just leave them alone and do your thing? I'm sure LE couldn't care less about the flier. They have bigger fish to fry than that.

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    2. Tell me more,
      Remember thgat it was only Jeff's judgement that that the detectives didn't like the flier. He did say that they din't have anything to say about it.

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  11. Great post MW. And while you may be idealistic, so what? It shows a hope and faith that things can be better than they are right now. Good for you.

    I certainly have my own beliefs about whether Ayla is deceased or alive, and though I tend to believe she is deceased, I have no problem with people who believe she is alive. I also share her images and posters on my page, in hopes that it will keep Ayla in the forefront and this mystery will be resolved. I applaud everyone who keeps Ayla's name out there.

    You are right, no matter what theory one might believe, we are all working for the same thing. I certainly don't hate anyone who disagrees with me and I hope no one hates me because I don't think like they do.

    It's unfortunate but a lot of the name calling, investigation of people, threats all came out from frustrations. Beating each other up, won't help find out what happened to Ayla.

    When the people involved in Ayla's disappearance decide to speak up and tell the truth, we will find Ayla. Or when the LE determines they have enough evidence to push forward, we will find out what happened to Ayla. Until then, all we have is each other and our combine efforts at keeping Ayla in the public eye.

    I think I can safely say that none of us want Ayla's case to become a cold case. Praying for Ayla, always until we know. - KJ

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    1. Very well said, KJ! Hostilities between groups doesn't help anyone, especially Ayla. I'm like you and don't have any hard feelings toward anyone just because they might believe one thing or another, or think about things differently than I do.

      If everyone thought the very same things then their would never be any progress made in the world. We can help Ayla even more by bringing all of our different ideas and efforts together. We can build each other up, and have our own efforts built upon in the process. We can reach so many more people combines, and with a much larger voice.

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  12. But what i find that is a disservice to Ayla is the paternal side not speaking out for Ayla..especially if they still maintain she was abducted..or do they still maintain that claim

    Anon999... I do agree with you on that. Part of what convinces me of the truthfulness of my thoughts, is the fact we (the public) have not and do not see Justin (and the DiPietros) out there speaking up for Ayla (or speaking at all). I know many people think I am wrong for thinking that way, but in my opinion, if they believe a kidnapping happened and they have nothing to hide, why are they (hiding from the public)?

    Not seeing Justin or the DiPietros in the public is a huge part of why I believe what the LE has said, "an abduction did not take place, the three in the house that night are not telling all they know and we are not likely to find Ayla alive"(paraphrased). - KJ

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    1. I agree KJ and Anon999...that is a huge part of why I feel as I do. Speaking for myself, I can not fathom why the paternal family has not spoken more if they believe it's a kidnapping. Even if they believe it's someone they know who has her they should be speaking out. I've heard "she probably thinks it's a game" and "nothing happened to Ayla except she was taken". What bothers me most is the lack of concern for Ayla I hear in those statements. In the beginning, when given a chance to speak, I expected to hear "Please don't hurt her" or "She's afraid of the dark - leave a light on for her" or "She won't fall asleep without her blankie, please give her a blankie"- anything that showed they were thinking of Ayla instead of themselves. When those sentiments were not forthcoming my suspicions were raised. Unfortunately, I have seen nothing yet to lessen those suspicions.

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    2. Yes, i agree KJ and Dee. This case is so frustrating because alittle girl is "missing",and honestly if you cannot count on your own family to speak out, or look for you (meaning Ayla) then who can you count on?
      How sad this whole case has become. I put my trust in LE and their determination to find Ayla and bring Justice to all involved.

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    3. They've been talking plenty...you just haven't been listening.

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    4. "They've been talking plenty...you just haven't been listening."
      Umm.....no they haven't. Your cryptic comment isn't effective at all--sorry.

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  13. OT from this very important issue, and Katie you can delete this once read if you like, but you have mail.

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  14. Fantastic post MW!
    You put into words so beautifully what I have been thinking about this case.

    My train of thought is very similar to yours.

    Logically I believe what MSP has stated. With that said, I will always have some small hope for Ayla. When I go out I still look for Ayla. I think my brain is trained in doing that at this point.

    I was one of those people who stuck to one side and lashed out at the other. It was wrong & I'm not proud of it. I was so caught up in the quest for justice for Ayla that I couldn't see how caustic my own words were about others. I'm guilty.

    I took a break from this case and with that break- I was able to see things a lot more clealy. The break allowed me to not react in emotion. But consider everything.

    Although I was never able to forget Miss Ayla Bell. Her story keeps me up night. And probably always will until she has justice.

    Having a different opinion or belief doesn't make you wrong. It makes you human. That's how we're made. All different.

    Bravo MW!!! Great work.





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    1. Very well said Chicken little.

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    2. Thank you, ChickenLittle!

      Though I was never stuck on one side, I definitely lashed out against Justin's side. When something tragic and horrible like this happens, and there are no answers and nobody takes responsibility for it, it's really hard not to lash out at the most obvious person who could be behind it. I didn't stop to think about everything, I was just so angry and so heartbroken, that all I thought about was that they need to be MADE to talk, and made to pay. Then after a while I realized that there is no way that it's as simple as most make it out to be. And actually it's possible that it may be far different...

      Even if not though, all of this angry, negative energy is wasted on pouring it into blaming or taunting others. LE has them all under the spotlight already, combing carefully through their lives. And if they actually turn out to be innocent, then I'm sure that as an innocent family who wants their baby back, the DiPietros will completely understand why they had to go through that so that LE can do their job and find Ayla.

      So, instead of wasting energy and effort on uselessly lashing out, I think it's much more productive and helpful to Ayla to concentrate on maintaining and raising awareness for her and showing support for her as well as for others who do positive things for her. We should encourage each other, and should absolutely be able to set differences aside at least temporarily so we can do that. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with each other, but there is a time and place for that, which can be separate from the support of each others efforts for Ayla. :-)

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  15. I think it will be interesting when Jeff writes his next post I wonder who the someone is he is referring to? Maybe it will give us another direction to look into. Hopefully Ayla will have justice soon, that's my prayer.

    Justin may not be guilty of anything more than being an unsatisfactory role model but it seems that he has been influenced by someone to participate in Ayla’s life.

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  16. Does anyone (Katie, maybe?) know if Elisha DiPietro and Gabby are still living in that house? If a baby was taken out of the room where my baby usually slept, that would freak me out!

    I'd never want to live in that house, again, unless I thought lightening wouldn't strike again to maybe take the "right" baby, my baby, next time. Especially when I (Elisha) have a very dysfuntional relationship with my baby daddy and his relatives!

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  17. About the billboards...

    TTLOM worked with a couple companies who placed Ayla's missing poster on their electronic billboards at different times, since they did it for free, the billboards with Ayla's picture ran for only a few days at a time in between the ads paid for by different companies. Because a billboard was erected in Washington or New Jersey and posted on TTLOM doesn't mean that it is still up today or was yesterday.

    My post about the billboards was incorrect, I had emailed a few of the companies and the person I spoke to said no they didnt have any billboards currently running of Ayla, that and the info that the pictures of the billboards could have been photoshopped was what lead me to do the infamous billboard post and say that there were no billboards, I found out after the post that although there currently were not running Ayla billboards at the time I emailed them, around Memorial Day weekend, they had in fact run them before. I never retracted my post or apologized until recently and instead of doing one lump apology post, I instead chose to go to the TTLOM members directly and apologize.

    TTLOM have had billboards put up with Ayla on them, if you haven't seen them, then they likely are not currently running however they did exist. Again my apologies for the billboard post and I appreciate the work of TTLOM members who have tirelessly worked to spread awareness for Ayla. It doesn't matter what they believe or what I believe or who did what, what matters is people are aware of Ayla. She is all that matters

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    1. Well said, Tori. I was wrong about the billboards as well, and have no problem admitting it and apologizing for it.

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    2. Thank you, Tori :)
      I've always been perplexed over the billboard debate. There are so many billboards on the west coast, and, since they're electronic, tracking specifically where or when they were run is difficult. I can understand how people who are already suspicious could take that and use it to discredit TLLOM. Have you ever had someone not believe you at all when you were being 100% truthful? It's frustrating. Anyway, thank you for the retraction & apology. An official retraction would be nice, in order to stop the suspicions.

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  18. I agree Tori and thank you for letting us know. I knew if the right person were asked we would get an answer.

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    1. I was going to do a post about it and probably still should so everyone sees it since many still have the misconception that the post I did was accurate although I know now it wasn't.

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    2. I think that would be very helpful Tori.
      From many things I've read TLLOM has worked hard to get and keep Ayla's name and picture in the public's view.
      I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated, and only helpful to Ayla.

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  19. Speaking of taunting each other and saying mean things about the "other side", I'm wondering what the Justin "side" really believes about Trista's involvement, now. That side has called Ayla's mom a prostitute, a junkie, a liar, and a bad, bad mother! But never a mastermind.

    The assertions of Trista being a kidnapper "in a custody case" have been rather weak. Sure, it's been suggested that Trista has Ayla hidden, but not for some time has the vehement accusation that "Trista Took Her!" surfaced with any power.

    There wasn't ever any proof offered for Trista as chief ninja abductress. LE never said, for example, "Trista is not forthcoming." "Or the mom is not doing her part in keeping Ayla's name out there." As LE said of the paternal side.

    Has the more than a year without sight of Ayla with Trista or her relatives becalmed those who think that Trista abducted her daughter and is hiding the child in New Mexico or Timbuctu?

    I don't think the "side" who feels something happened to Ayla in that house has devolved much except in the case of a couple of posters who regularly "laugh their fat asses off" about the "claims" of LE and the "no abduction took place" followers.

    So how goes it? Have the Justin defenders given up on Trista as chief architect of a successful kidnapping plot? Or is this merely the calm before the gathering storm of "In a custody dispute, there wouldn't be consideration of an "abduction" if one parent spearheaded it." That's been said often enough.

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