Friday, February 22, 2013

Camp Charla

So Charla was actually right (it had to happen sooner or later). Coming from the queen herself, she called bullshit and I'm glad she did as it gave me a opportunity to set the record straight. I will always tell you the truth as I know it and own up to any mistakes that I have made (one mistake was starting a blog in the first place, what the hell was I thinking :)
 
But wait, does that mean that I have given Camp Charla and her cartoon network a little credibility.. why? what have you heard? :) am I all of a sudden credible at Camp Charla? does everyone believe that what "jeff says" is written in stone? of course not. Credibility is a luxury I cannot afford and could care less about. I make the mistakes because I'm the one sticking my neck out.
 
But let's take a closer look at Charla's favorite word "credibility" (second only to "changing the story") How creditable is Charla?  **no really stop laughing**
 
About eight months ago I started going through Charla's blog writing down all the theories and ideas that she had wrong and why, but it took up way too much of my time and I realized that it was not worth it.  So I sent the first draft e-mail to Grace hoping she would take on the challenge on her own. Couple of days later Grace went nuts.. not sure if it was the e-mail or the medication that did it, but I have wondered what happen to that e-mail? Did Grace not want to share it with her new found friend, or did Charla drop it in the shredder? It really does not matter anymore because I have come to realize that Charla cannot be wrong (kind of like my ex). She will always be Daffy Duck with a shotgun, who has shot herself so full of holes that she no longer can drink the water that she's been feeding us.. not without turning on the sprinkler system and yelling fire anyway.
 
She is unaccountable and therefore not credible. .She uses other peoples images as her own and seems to take great pleasure in having people guess who she is (FYI Charla: nobody cares anymore) and has made it some sort of sick game. Personally I cannot fathom, how anyone could not have a little empathy for a mother who's daughter had been reported as most likely dead and was shown a slideshow of how she died.

But from her own excerpts and comments I know who Chara is. I see her empty face everyday in the parade of women passing by at the mall at lunch time, they are the abused, the neglected, the tormented, they are the by-product of abusive step-dad's, drug addiction, and fear.. but should I judge Charla with the same consideration she has given Trista?, I simply cannot lower myself to do that..  and I feel sorry for her.

It has been a long road, but I can now say we need people like Charla if only to call out the bullshit, but most importantly as a reflection of how we should not be treating one another.. ..but you know, when left alone Camp Charla actually starts to develop an intelligent thought between them.. scary really. I say leave them alone.


Anyway, I'm out.. see you in the funny papers.

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  1. I am sorry...I do not understand the "slideshow.". Could you explain for me?

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    1. When Trista was shown evidence from the State police - it was shown to her in pictures from around the DiPietro property.

      I'm thinking he meant the pictures as a slide show.

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    2. I accidentally deleted your follow up comment, I am sorry, I tried to retrieve it but I can't find it.

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  2. Anon; Trista was shown a projected slideshow of the photos that MSP had that led them to believe that Ayla is "highly unlikely" to be alive..

    ..and thank you Suz

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    1. I am sorry, truly sorry. I have held out hope since December 17, 2011, Ayla would be found safe...somewhere. I am so sorry.

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    2. Hey anonymous, some of us still think she's alive. It's really okay if you still hold out hope. Did you see Jeff's retraction? If I were you, I'd take everything he says with a grain of salt. Pray for Ayla. She's most likely alive somewhere and can use our prayers, rather than people losing hope & mourning her death.

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    3. Michelle, good advice, hold on to what you believe in the light.. but I can't promise you that I won't let you down.

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    4. These photos they showed Trista on the slideshow and which led them to believe Ayla is likely dead, were they from Violette avenue or of the objects found in the river ?

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    5. Stlll no Clue; 1 Photo was of the blankets found at the dam. The other "30-40" photos that were shown to Trista were taken on the Dipietro's property.

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  3. On a side note; Derek (If he does not cancel again) and Courtney are next in line to see the "slideshow" for reasons I'm sure you guys are aware of.

    "for reasons I'm sure you guys are aware of"...

    Huh?

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    1. yeah, I will remove that, only bloggers who have experience in Ayla's case would know what that means. Not fair to you... Done

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    2. Not exactly a "blogger" but have been following Ayla's case. There are few reasons I can think of. Which are pretty obvious, to me anyway.

      Although I can not make assumptions because I lack the necessary info.

      That's why I wrote, "huh", thinking you might be able to clarify a bit.

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  4. Anon; I meant to imply that LE is trying to enlist their help through disclosure, as the Deprtiro's are not communicating with them. It may very well be their last chance

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    1. Not true. The latest word from law enforcement after their meeting with the Dipietros was that they are communicating. Always check your sources, Jeff :)

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    2. Yeah I read that too Anpn 11:00; but despite what you may have read in the papers, MSP does not believe the "nothing happened" story and are working behind the scenes to find out more.

      It's not rocket science (where the hell is that guy when you need him)? to figure out that the Deprtiro's are not cooperating with them if they are still soliciting other sources to find out what really happened to Ayla...

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    3. Anon...or it could be true. "They are communicating" can mean many different things. The communication could be Justin saying to them "I've already told you everything" or "I have nothing more to say". The communication could be one sided - it could be that MSP is doing all the communicating and Justin is his typical silent "no response" self. There are many types of communication. There are three (or more) people who potentially know what happened to Ayla. MSP doesn't need more of the "not telling all they know" kind of communication, they're looking for real, honest information from someone that was in the house.

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    4. Not only was the response that they were communicating, but it was a POSITIVE response that it had improved. If they were communicating but it wasn't positive, you would have heard it from Steve McClausland. He doesn't leave that fact out when he speaks about the Dipietro family - he never has.

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    5. Thanks, Katie! That's what I read also. Mcausland spoke some very positive words about the meeting. Morning sentinel has the article if anyone would like to read it. I can't link from my phone. Seriously, speculation can not override facts quoted from le.

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    6. Anon's I am aware of Mcausland positive words, but I will say it one more time (from comment below):

      MSP is using everything within their power to extract information from the Dipietro's family (as well as their circle of friends). MSP does not believe the Dipietro's version of what happened to Ayla.

      That is all I can tell you, therefore I do not expect you to believe my "speculation".

      I expect you to believe Mcausland's positive words..

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  5. You don't have to explain what you think LE reasons are, for talking to CR and DT. DT was called BEFORE 911. CR had shared physical custody of baby Ayla along with Elisha dip and Justin dip!!??The night she disappeared. So, anyone with half a brain could see why LE is going to lay it on the line for those two a holes.

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  6. So Derek cancels on LE, so busy selling death insurance on babies? And Courtney is scarce and always has been, such an a hole, never spoke up for Ayla, never will. Just disappeared from the situation. Three creepy 20 something punks should be strung up to a tree until that baby shows up. Who the hell gave them permission to babysit that precious child? Wasn't he supposed to return her to her mother prior to that fateful night?

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  7. Throughout this long investigation it has become crystal clear that Justin is completely incapable of doing anything on his own..he seems to always need help on some many different levels ie: calling derek for advise before a 911 call..calling his mommy before a 911 call, a campaign of people defending him, having help from his bff to move his belongings from portland to waterville, someone to watch ayla while he is out doing Justin things..i'm sure the list goes on and on. so it should not be a surprise to anyone that Justin would need help in covering up what has happened to Ayla. The question is who or how many were there in the coverup/cleanup, and why do people continue to protect him. His life is over as he knew it. He will go down for the travesty of Ayla, the question is who else is willing to take the fall with him? And my question is why would they???

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  8. Ive made comments on U4A about the Pink Puke Blog. This is my first time coming to this blog. I just want you to know when I made those comments on U4A i did not mean this blog.

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  9. My 1st time here as well, Is Charla obscure ?

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    1. Katie, the only way you can say that Charla is not Obscure, is if you have absolutely proof of who Obscure is. Otherwise, you are just guessing and it is only your opinion that Charla is not Obscure. Certainly, one cannot take Obscure's word for it (without proof). I thought Obscure might be Monique, but that's just my opinion.

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    2. Anon,

      I realize this. But I also am true to my word on promises I've made to others. I will not backstab and do childish things I've witnessed throughout this ordeal.

      Take it as you wish. Obscure is not Charla. I can say this with 100% certainty

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    3. Katie

      I appreciate your civility, but it's useless. At this point, I don't care if people think I'm Charla, Monique, Stephanie, Michael, Bryan, or Jesus.

      Jeff has spoken on the issue, and we've all seen how that works. Despite his "corrections", "retractions", and "misconstruations" he couldn't possibly be wrong about this. (yes, I made up that last word)

      Great post to start off new beginnings on this blog. Congrats!!!

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    4. so who is obscure?

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    5. Obscure, you can be absolutely sure I never thought you were Jesus. ;)

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    6. lol you go anon .... I second that. Only obscure would try to liken itself to Jesus.

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    7. Posted on JSTL's and deleted quickly by Obscure:

      Stacie Ortiz9/15/12 1:22 AM
      Hey Monique! Jess was tellin me about your journal page at work today. Now I see why you never leave that office! Give me a call after RJ's game tomorrow, cause gurl I can't keep up with all these names you talk about on here. Luv ya, Mo!
      -Stacie

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    8. Anon, what's your point?

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  10. Ok, that song was awesome. I so glad I was curious. LOL

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    1. Makes me smile every time I hear it.

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  11. Yea I never noticed the link. TX Addie or pointing it out. Love it, never here it but so fitting for that hateful crew over there.

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  12. Thanks guys, It is well played. But in spite of despair and tragedy I can only hope that Camp Charla has a sense of humor about themselves.

    "Nothing is more curious than the almost savage hostility that humor excites in those who lack it. ~George Saintsbury

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  13. After listening to the "camp charla" song...i believe a great ring tone it would make :) Thanx for the laugh Jeff..i will be singing a new song when i go over to the pink blog to read the words that are manufactured over there :)

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  14. I don’t expect this comment to be published. The cowardly thing to do is block me from commenting while allowing commenters to state what they may. I expect nothing less of a man with no cahones. Anywho, I’ll try anyway.

    Jeffrey,

    Fuck me very much. LOL Keep it classy.

    I get it. You don’t like being called out. The women in your life are usually drug-addicted and submissive. I’m not like them.

    I get it. I’m more educated than you; therefore, I threaten your need to be the smartest person in the proverbial room.

    I get it. You thought as the family spokesperson, your word would be taken and never questioned. I continue to question your words, and expose you for the liar you are. Pardon me.

    I get it. You really had nothing to do with Ayla. You let her drug-addicted mother live her train wreck of a life with two young children, and never reached out a hand to help. Right now, you’re trying to make amends for that.

    I get it. Calling me “Charla” is your way of calling me out by name; holding me accountable. Flawed methodology. Speaking of calling names, are you ever going to share with the world what Ayla called you? I won’t hold my breath.

    I get it. You are the ex-step-grandfather of a missing little girl. You expect a certain level of respect and regard to come with that. I don’t. To me, you have shown yourself to be a lying piece of shit, and that is how I treat you.

    I get it. The fact is, you have made a lifetime out of exploiting vulnerable people women. I see right through you, Jeffrey.

    Look inside of my soul and you can find gold and maybe get rich…
    Look inside of your soul and you can find out it doesn’t exist…

    ~Obscure, over & out!

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    1. Ths is the bullshit that I hope you start deleting on this blog. . . Obscure/Charla whatever her disgusting name is should be left to blah blah blah on her own pink blog. . . I am disgusted just seeing the name Obscure. . . disgusts me.

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    2. Jeff was free to speak his mind and it is only fair to allow Obscure to respond, Jeff actually was the one to publish the comment.

      Moving forward, there will be no more posts attacking or calling out anyone and Obscure is welcome to comment here as long as it is kept civil

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    3. No one attacks more than Obscure. She paints her pictures and sings her songs and all I can do is see a pompus ass, self righteous wanna be recognized for her dry comments and hurtful sick comments

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    4. Obscure
      Not all Jeffs gfriends are drug addicts and submissive. Only Becky was.
      Yes you most likely are more educated then Jeff - And because of that he has to work much harder when he speaks.
      He's the family spokesperson because there is no one else who would or could stand up for Ayla.
      It offends me greatly that you talk out of your ass with this statement "you let her drug addicted mother live her train wreck life and never reached a hand out to help"
      Jeff tried for years to help Becky and her children. He took them in when they fell - they would find jobs - he helped them save money to get their own place. OVER AND OVER. They fell - he picked them up. Same said for Becky. Nobody else did. Not their own father.
      That comment it is hateful and shows your ignorance of the situation.
      Exploiting vunerable woman?? Are you F... ing serious? His life has been a living hell with that family. WHO EXPLOITED WHO?

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    5. Obscure bowed out of the blogging world long ago. I am glad you commented on this though because I wish more would see what Jeff is really doing and at what cost to his own life all for people who don't appreciate it and have taken advantage of him over and over but he is still here. Jeff isn't the bad guy no matter who tries to paint that image of him.

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    6. LOL i just realized that it was old - how embarrasing .. Oh well - it felt good to rant! I will never understand how anyone can think Jeff has anything go gain by any of this. He has lost everything. Everytime he gets ahead they come back into his life and suck him dry.
      Thanks Tori for getting him when most dont :-)

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    7. People will still see the comment from the recent comment feed. Two years of almost daily sometimes hourly emails and I figured him out pretty quickly. I wish others who doubt him would see the side of him I see and understand his sense of humor and how he uses it as deflection sometimes lol

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    8. Judy, Thank you for your insight. I agree, Jeff has done nothing but go out of his way to seek justice and truth for Ayla. I'm sure he was the stable one in the Becca, Trista, Ronnie Jr. household. In life we all do what we have to do and what we feel is right. Jeff can hold his head up high, he's given more than his fair share and taken more than his fair share of crap from unknowing people. I admire his dedication to Ayla and Trista.

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    9. Judy and Tori, I believe both of you. Thank you for sharing that. I feel one of Jeff's difficulties in the blogosphere came in passing off someone else's word as his own.

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    10. Just saw your comment - space

      Thank you for sharing your opinion. :-)

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  15. Charla, I'm sure Tori will agree with me in my saying that you can always speak your mind here (civil tone pending of course).

    but pardon me for stating the obvious.. you don't get it... and you probably never will. see you in the funny pages.

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  16. I'm never wrong Charla? you need to pick your role models more wisely :) and to read the bold print: "Retraction and an apology"

    Noun
    1.A regretful acknowledgment of an offense or failure: "my apologies for the delay".
    2.A formal, public statement of regret, such as one issued by a newspaper, government, or other organization.

    In this post I meant to imply that you have been wrong more often than not and no one has ever seen you apologize for it.. at least I have never seen it anyway, but I could be wrong :)

    and I only call you Charla, because I'm not playing your cat and mouse game. As I said in this post nobody cares anymore, not even LE, but you do have the e-mails that indicate why we call you that.

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  17. the unrestrained and 'defiant' wrangling between A4A and 'lies' is most entertaining...

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  18. with that being said, I have a question, not a comment....did the police ever discuss with Trista, any thoughts they might have on offering a deal with Justin and/or his family??? such as "lesser charge for location of body"....my apologies to Jess/Trista for my bluntness....

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  19. I would like to know with the team of Tori and Katie together, starting a new leaf...

    If any of Ayla's paternal side of the family would use this platform to tell their side of the story.

    We all have heard the maternal's side of the story.

    It wouldn't hurt to hear what they've been through. Plus, I really don't think the paternal side has anything to lose by speaking up at this time. (I do not mean that disrespectfully at all. I just think it would only help the public understand where they're coming from.)

    I hope to see Ayla's paternal side speak out for her. This would be the perfect platform for it, I think.

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    1. That was my hope in approaching Katie with the idea for this blog. I don't know if they will feel comfortable commenting here right now because of how they have been treated here in the past but I hope that once they see that things are different they will be inclined to share their insight as to what they think happened and why. Hopefully some questions we have will be answered if they are inclined to do so. If not, they owe us, the public nothing so I can understand if they choose not to participate.

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    2. I, also, am hopeful, that with my relationship with the paternal family I can help them get some sort of statement out. But that is entirely up to them - also up to what their allowed to state outside of their lawyer. I believe I saw Jeff state somewhere that Trista has signed a non-disclosure, and I'm sure that Justin and family has as well if this is truly the case.

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    3. I knew that was a possibility Katie when asking you to partner with me and I think in that case the blog is well rounded even with Jeff here. I may have opinions but I can be objective and think it is highly beneficial to Ayla's case that I do be objective at this juncture and I know you can be objective as can Jeff.

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  20. Anon 1:18; I'm done, Tori told me to cut it out :)

    Anon 1:32; Negative, but you can believe MSP is using other tactics, with us as well as the paternal side.

    Anon 4:45; We would welcome it, and we have extended the olive branch many times, I suspect their lawyer may have had something to do with the reason/s that they are not speaking publically.. at least directly anyway.

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    1. thankyou for the information, Jeff...too bad about the wrangling, lol..I enjoy your quick wit and humorous side, although its just a momentary anecdote for keeping 'lies' in line...lol...barb

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  21. IThinkIWillCallMyselfChickenLittleFebruary 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    @Tori:

    " If not, they owe us, the public nothing so I can understand if they choose not to participate."

    -Again, mean no disrespect, but don't they owe Ayla, their kin, to speak out FOR her?

    @Jeff:

    "but you can believe MSP is using other tactics, with us as well as the paternal side."

    I hope MSP/DA office ia treating you all well. What kind of tactics have they used with Trista & her family? Why would they try "tactics" with Trista??? Hasn't she been through enough???

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    1. No disrespect taken, the blogging public and Law Enforcement are two different entities, yes Ayla deserves the truth to be told to the proper authorities and eventually the truth will be made public.

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    2. IThinkIWillCallMyselfChickenLittle.. wow, say that 10 times fast...

      Anon 1:32 mentioned "Justin and/or his family???"

      I meant that MSP is using everything within their power to extract information from the Dipietro's family (as well as their circle of friends). MSP does not believe the Dipietro's version of what happened to Ayla.. (and now, neither do we).

      This should come as no surprise to anyone. including the Dipietro's.

      I cannot say how Trista has been involved as she has signed a non-disclosure form, only that she has helped MSP in their discovery process.

      But I am 100% sure (what's with all the percentages lately anyway)? that Trista is not a suspect. as I am sure you are too.

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  22. Good point Tori. Understood.

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  23. ChickenLittle10XsFastFebruary 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Thank you Jeff for replying.

    " I meant that MSP is using everything within their power to extract information from the Dipietro's family (as well as their circle of friends). MSP does not believe the Dipietro's version of what happened to Ayla..(and now, neither do we)."

    That has my brain swirling with different ideas.

    "I cannot say how Trista has been involved as she has signed a non-disclosure form, only that she has helped MSP in their discovery process"

    I have thought this from the beginning. At different points since Ayla went missing - I have wondered how much her & Amber Frey have common - as far as helping with the investigation. I can only imagine how hard it must have been for her. How hard it is for her. Wow. A lot stronger than I.

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    1. ChickenLittle10XsFast, Thank you for your thoughts, and thank you for shortening your name :)

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  24. Hi Jeff,
    Has Trista been told by LE the story that the Dips and Courtney put forth to them about the day and evening of the 16th?

    Have they told her yet if anyone else claims to have been home that day, or if Phoebe and Elisha went to work/school, and what time they got home that day?

    According to Derek, he was there for a play date in the afternoon...
    which puts him, his son, and Justin at the house with Ayla...
    I also remember reading that Justin left for three hours on the 16th, and am wondering if this is known to you all?

    So, this leads to my last query: I keep reading that there is an independent confirmation/sighting of Ayla alive and well on the day of the 16th...is this true, and if so, is it someone outside the DiP, Tudela, and Roberts groups? Thanks

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    1. Is there a confirmed sighting of Trista's whereabouts the 16th into the 17th by anyone who's not directly connected to her? I'm not trying to be argumentative, just trying to flip the coin and make a point that the questions posed by one side could also be asked by the other side.

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    2. She was driving with the grandfather of her baby, Roy Fortier on the way to visit her ex-boyfriend in prison in Machiasport (sp.) Ray Fortier is the father of Trista's ex.

      On the way to the prison, Trista received the call from LE that Ayla was missing. Roy Fortier and Trista then went to Waterville to the police station and were questioned. Then they were allowed to leave. Purely a nutshell account on my part from what I recall.

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    3. Ray Fortier is the father of baby Ray. Robert Fortier is the grandfather

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    4. So again I ask, any confirmation of her whereabouts by someone not connected to her? Her son's grandfather would definitely not qualify. If Derek isn't an acceptable witness for Justin and Ayla then Robert, Jessica etc are not acceptable witnesses for Trista. See how this works? Maybe there are credible witnesses for each of them and the public just doesn't know. We don't need to know. There are very good reasons that none of us have all the answers we desire, including Jeff. We are not the ones who need the information. If there comes a time when we need to know, I'm sure we'll be told.

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    5. Breanna Roberts was arrested for dealing drugs.

      The ME DEA generally doesn't go and arrest people off the cuff. They like to dot their I's and cross their T's. They usually do plenty of background work. Find the suppliers & the customers before they make a bust.

      Often times the ME DEA does surveillance in these type of situations.

      Hypothetically speaking, IF the ME DEA was doing surveillance...is it possible that a ME DEA agent saw Ayla while doing surveillance???

      Maybe that's why the MSP is so adamant that she was seen on Dec 16????

      I know it's a stretch but stranger things have happened.

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    6. Tori, why did you correct my post on the Fortiers? Where did I go wrong on the Trista/ Fortier connection?

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    7. I only corrected because you had one of the names wrong

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  25. Emerald; "Nothing happened that night" has been their story.. I ask Trista every other phone call for what LE and Justin has told her and it is always the same thing.. Was their a party.. nothing happened, did Justin leave the house.. nothing happened. did they have pizza for supper.. etc etc.. I just don't understand how nothing happened??

    JohnP at U4A is preparing an in depth posting on Derek's "play date" for this weekend.

    I was told by a detective working Ayla's case that the rumors that Ayla may have been missing before the 17th were false. I can only assume she meant alive and well, as well. ..and she was one very serious State trooper who did not mince her words.

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    1. How can John do an in depth post on the play date without any information from the only people present at the play date? This makes no sense to me. I'll be interested to see what he can say about it. Hopefully it won't be another horror story about how a small child could have killed Ayla or more sordid speculation about Justin and Derek doing away with her..

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    2. Justin and Derek "doing away with Ayla"...no. Doing away with her body, maybe. As you say it is just speculation. Just as it was speculation that Trista and Roy Fortier kidnapped Ayla on their way to see Ray in prison. But...which family members did LE say are not being forthcoming?

      It's hard to get away from that, isn't it?

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