Saturday, June 2, 2012

Possible Charges

This was a comment that was deleted because someone mentioned didn't want their full name posted. What do you guys think about the charges listed? What would you add or change?

Thank you for putting this together! (All bolding is mine)

possible charges for the posse of scum said...
Justin-1st degree murder,fraud,conspiracy to conceal evidence,lying to investigators,conspiracy to commit ins fraud,tampering with witnesses,unlawful removal of a corpse, child abuse,child neglect,child endangerment,torture,harrassment,tampering with evidence,domestic terrorism,stalking,drug traficking,conspiracy to obtain unlawful custody,intentional misuse of public funds,conspiracy to commit libel,slander,contributing to the deliquency of a minor via illegal drug ingestion,conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,tax evasion

Elisha-accessory,conspiracy,perjury;lying to a grand jury,interfering with a criminal investigation,child endangerment,failure to report child abuse and neglect as a mandated reporter

Courtney-accessory,conspiracy,perjury;lying to a grand jury,harrassment,electronic stalking,interfering with a criminal investigation,emotional assault,child abuse,conspiracy to commit libel,slander,blackmail

Brianna R.-conspiracy,tampering with evidence(removal of drugs)child endangerment

Derek-accessory,conspiracy,interfering with a criminal investigation,unlawful removal of a corpse,conspiracy to commit libel,slander,tampering with evidence,assessory to ins fraud


Heidi-accessory,conspiracy to conceal evidence,electronic stalking,harrassment,interfering with a criminal investigation,conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,child endangerment,conspiracy to commit libel,slander

Phoebe-accessory,conspiracy,interfering with a criminal investigation,perjury;lying to a grand jury,child abuse,child neglect,child endangerment,accessory to obtain unlawful custody,conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,illegal possession of prescription drugs

Lance-accessory,conspiracy,tampering with evidence,unlawful removal of a corpse,perjury;lying to a grand jury,conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,possession of illegal drugs

Bob V-accessory to conceal evidence(drugs)

Angie H-accessory,conspiracy,harrassment,intentional infliction of emotional diress,interfering with a criminal investigation,conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,tampering with evidence,cyber stalking,conspiracy to commit libel,slander

Selena J-conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,electronic stalking and harrassmet,conspiracy to commit libel,slander,possession of illegal prescription drugs

Connie d-conspiracy to taint a future jury pool

obscure ie John Doe-accessory,conspiracy to taint a future jury pool,harrassment,cyber stalking, cyber terrorism,interfering with a criminal investigation

June 1, 2012 8:46 AM


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46 comments:

  1. That's a pretty long list of charges. Not much to add to that!

    I do hope that Trista will eventually move forward with civil suits, when the time is right. Plus a lawsuit(s) against dhhs.

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  2. i dont know about this case, but i know a guy charged with 52 crimes and most of them were thrown out. i bet the same thing will happen here.

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  3. I don't know that half of those are even actual criminal charges that exist in the state of Maine. Libel and slander are civil issues. Fraud is too vague to comment on. Emotional assault doesn't sound like an actual crime. I don't think conspiracy to taint a future jury pool appears anywhere in Maine criminal statutes either.

    Reads like a laundry list of made up charges from a pissed off wanna be prosecutor, quite honestly.

    We're all pissed this has gone on for so long but let's not promote the making up of laws that don't exist in the process of venting about it.

    Domestic terrorism? WTF?

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    1. It is just "possible" charges, made by a commenter.

      Then the post asked, "What would you add or change?"...

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    2. I wouldn't add anything. I'd remove a whole lot of nonsense though. I suppose that's "change".

      This copy and paste of a riled up random person's response to a prior blog post is hardly worth a whole new top post. If Tori wants to explore actual, real, possible criminal charges in Maine she should enlist someone with half a clue to research and write on it.

      How should one play along with the invitation to "add or change" the "possible charges"? How about Justin gets charged with conspiracy to spread STDs, Courtney gets charged with falsifying her tax return by failing to report Justin as a dependent and Phoebe gets charged with eliciting suspicion of being bisexual?

      Is that better?

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    3. A little...

      How about all of the above + failure to grow brains and have a heart (definite lack of soul)?

      Is it the foul weather causing such a lousy attitude already on this post? Or the upcoming full.moon? Maybe that'll bring out the ghouls who can put an end to all of this shit!

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    4. Anon, this case is so NOT funny - but those comments of yours are.

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    5. Agreed. Anon has me crackin up over here. Tori should not have given this comment any further attention. Emotional assault? Did someone slap the hell out of another person with a smile? LOL

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    6. yes terrorism, as coordined by justin and posse to torture, torment, harrass and terrorize trista and her family, social objective was to report a fake kidnapping and commit murder to relieve himself of being a father and pay child support.

      According to a memo produced by the FBI's Terrorist Research and Analytical Center in 1994, domestic terrorism was defined as "the unlawful use of force or violence, committed by a group(s) of two or more individuals, against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."[2]

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    7. it says possible charges. it does not say possible criminal charges. obviously some are under the civil code.

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  4. This is stupid. Prosecutors don't just pile on charges like that. There has to be a basis for it, and it has to be a violation of a real law in Maine.

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  5. This was a comment left on the blog. Nothing else. We don't know what charges if any the DiPietros and their co-conspirators are facing and although the legalese may not be correct in the comment I guarantee a similar charge could fall somewhere in one of the Maine Statutes for each one and if not then maybe we need more laws passed. Everyone who participated before or after the fact need to pay for what was done to Ayla.

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    1. Again I would say we are all pissed off and frustrated but making up laws isn't going to help that. You know what happens when angry citizens' make up the laws? Ask California how Three-Strikers who shoplifted candy bars being jailed for life is working out for them.

      There might be a slew of charges that could be brought against a variety of people today, but I'd rather the maximum charges with the best chance of conviction come when the case is ready for a jury who will surely be thinking of 'beyond a reasonable doubt' with very high standards.

      Patience is difficult but I have faith that it will pay off and Justin will sit in jail for the rest of his life for what he did to Ayla and the others who helped plan it or cover it up will not get out for a very long time.

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    2. "Everyone who participated before or after the fact need to pay for what was done to Ayla."

      Wow. So, just because these people supported someone they believe to be innocent- they should be indicted on these made up crimes? Not only are these not real crimes in Maine, they likely aren't real crimes ANYWHERE.

      Hypothetically...if it turns out that someone in Trista's family DOES have Ayla- will you be charged with these made up crimes for going above and beyond in "tainting a jury pool" blah blah blah?

      This is such horse manure.

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    3. Anon 101, The Cyber crimes are not made up, they may not be called what the poster claimed but they are crimes. Heidi's direct involvement and lies have involved her to her own extent, not ours and not made up. CD, AH, DM and the others will be based on what was said by them to MSP. I think thier vile and contempt in public is absolutely inexcusable as a human being but probably not illegal unless repeated to LE during and interview. With that said, I do believe you are way overboard to say anything about making up charges and telling the people of Maine and MSP that they are fools! Not too smart unless you are trying to start fires.

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    4. My comment regarding before and after the fact meant the helping to conceal a crime and hiding a body. If you are supporting Justin because you think he is innocent obviously that is not a crime. If you have knowledge of the crime and didn't bring it to LE of course you should be charged. I never said I thought all the people on the list deserved charges. I said all involved in Ayla's disappearance

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    5. I think at this point the way the DPs are being handled we'd be lucky to see them charged for a traffic violation! In a perfect world it would be lovely to see all of those involved to be charged, but I don't think Maine has that kind of money/attorney power to go after all those people--they're not the DEA.

      It would be great though to see them go old school and arrest the 3 on lesser charges--child abuse/endangerment/hindering an investigation/lying to feds to get them to start talking. It may not work on JD, but I bet it would work on sweet ED who probably never got so much as a detention in her life.

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    6. Sometimes waiting for the heavier charge to be served is better...Let who(m) ever took this precious little baby girl get what they deserve!!!! Not just some petty crime but the full sha-bang ....Murder, murder w/ intent etc etc. I am familiar with "REAL LEGAL TERMS" I am going to school for my Paralegal degree. So there are a lot of LAWS and CHARGES people are NOT familiar with but will STICK!!

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  6. Not sure about emotional abuse as a crime, it's definately not okay but legally?

    I could see them the chqrge for all 3 of felony murdee because someone (Ayla) died while a crime was being commited of child abuse. Also there is the insuraunce fraud issue which may or may not be larceny i don't know. Aswell as filing a false police report.

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  7. Sorry about the typos, stupid touch screen.

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    1. Shay, was there a previous comment?

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    2. There is the post at 11:47 with all the geamar errors followed by my apology.... one after another...

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  8. Megan, Thanks for recalling this posters comments and modifying them for posting. The few changes I would make to the commenter,

    #1I would include Justin Linnel and charge him with conspiracy of child abuse while adding child abuse to Elisha. It was JL who admitted that he knew they "used drugs to get the babies to sleep"!

    #2 I would not charge BV for the concealment of evidence since he went public with it and IIRC informed LE of what he knew about it. He may have had issues many years ago in his life, but they should not be held against him in this case now. JMO

    #3 I do not belive both Lance and Derek helped JD move Ayla. I would drop that charge against Lance but definately include it with Derek.

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    1. John, can you hear me, John?

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    2. I dont know about that charge,JL never said he was there,he heard that,and he reported it to LE.

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    3. Anon 7:51, I know what you are saying and it is probably the correct thing to say. I have just gotten so fed up with these so-called parents that know and do nothing that I have to put my foot down and say, enough is enough. If a person knows of a crime against a child that is unable to speak for themselves and does nothing then that person is guilty of allowing it to continue in my eyes. Because of that, in my eyes, they are guilty of the crime as well!

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  9. WTH??? Crazy going on at startthelies blog!!!

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  10. I would add the charge of Public Drunk to Selena.

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  11. Because Grace Wilson stole my blog, I have created a new one http://start-the-lies.blogspot.com Visit it if you want to avoid her insanity.

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  12. http://start-the-lies.blogspot.ca/

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  13. If you know anything one small detail, that you lied or ommited even if you did it because you THOUGHT someone was innocent, your an accomplice. These are not the factual names for the charges but diff states have diff names for charges. Instead of emotional abuse it could be called mental abuse which in some cases is worse than physical. Im sure there are a mass of charges pileing up against the dips and people involved that are currently under sevear scrutiny. Le is just holding their hand until they can slam everyone involved with the largest charges possible. And yes you can be charged with several things at once then taken back to civil court and have even more charges against you.

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  14. Can someone tell me which baby was "sick" with a cold? Was it gabby or Ayla?

    Theory: something happened to Ayla on or near the 8th. Perhaps a head injury, resulting in a skull fracture. Ayla is acting weird or sleeping a lot. Those around think she will "sleep" it off, give her some Tylenol. She can't come to the phone because she is "not ok". Then she passes away from the resulting swelling of her brain and all adults decide they would cover as all of them "knew" Ayla was injured and did not get her medical attention.

    Scenario 2 would be that something happened and Justin cleaned up the blood but told the family she was sick and he had given her medicine and she is sleeping buying time. He then disposed of her body and staged the "disappearance " and in the beginning the others believed she really had been taken. I would assume that the others have their own theories now and maybe that's why the ma and sis have lawyered up.

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    1. I thought about scenario 2 alot... but I still believe courtney is involved...its possible his mom and sister are being played by him....interesting post...

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    2. TOTALLY AGREE!!! He got scared, panicked, did not know what to do....WHY NOT JUST CALL 911 THAT IS YOUR CHILD!!! As a mom I could NEVER EVER EVER let this happen!!! I of course would be scared, nervous not knowing what to do! BUT DO WHAT IS RIGHT! I think they think it is toooo late to tell the truth so the cowards wont come fourth but JUST DO IT!!!! PLEASE Tell what REALLY HAPPENED!!! THAT LITTLE BABY GIRL DESERVES IT!!!

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  15. Wow! As I stated above : hopefully the terribly dreary weather, in Maine, along with the upcoming full moon will either a) cause abundant paranoia, resulting in the guilty being overwelcomed by all of it and someone falling off the wagon b) the guilty realizing its over for them- kissin their black and white ( and black n blue) asses gbye or c) the full moon causing an overflow of energy and a group of vigilante justicers taking the matter into thier own hands!

    Ps: Grace- What do your charts show about this moon and the group/ Ayla etc? I bet its gonna be active!

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  16. Premature and stupid actually...just sayin...

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  17. lance was the abuserJune 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    I think it needs to be changed to Lance 1st degree murder. He used Ayla as revenge on Trista for sleeping with his brother. Justin has dirt on everyone else and that is why they can't speak up...

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  18. Don't forget Heidi attempting to blackmail Peter Hyatt.

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    1. WHAT? where can I read about this?

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    2. Oh, don't you fret, Peter has the proof.

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    3. Hyatt v Dudelas - No contest !June 3, 2012 at 3:09 PM

      I also heard that the Tudelas have tried to make trouble for Peter Hyatt but Peter is way smarter than the Dudelas and he has them by the shorthairs.

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  19. love the post, if only...the best part of all is that it would set a precedent for all future missing children cases...if you are involved in any remote way...you will be charged....

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  20. Criminal threatening and stalking from LIES towards Tori and her family.
    Failure to protect a childs welfare, CPS, phoebe,elisha, courtney,justin, derek, heidi.
    Lying to a police officer. phoebe, elisha, justin,courtney, lance, derek, heidi.
    Interfering with a criminal investigation, All of the above.
    Harrasment, pick a bunch.
    Being a disgusting pig, pretending to love her family all of a sudden, being a drunk, being stupid, lying, enjoying the limelight,finding so much humor in the face of a missing and harmed tiny little girl. SELENA

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  21. Justin- Felony Murder
    All the rest in the home- Obstruction, perjury
    These charges alone would help me sleep better.

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