Monday, June 4, 2012

Petition Courtesy of VtLady and Kit

VTLady and Kit, with the help of Wordman, drafted a petition requesting that State Farm also be responsible in investigating the disappearance of Ayla Reynolds. I am posting the information about the petition below as well as the petition letter and I ask that you all join me in signing this. I want to personally thank VTLady, Kit and Wordman for the great work they are doing for Ayla.

We the undersigned believe that a questionable, State Farm issued, life insurance policy purchased against the life of Ayla Bell Reynolds, by her father Justin DiPietro, is a factor in her subsequent disappearance from 29 Violette Ave. Waterville, ME, reported on December 17th, 2011.
We also believe that State Farm insurance representative, Darrell Tudela's, son Derek Tudela may have knowingly sold the life insurance policy against Ayla Bell Reynolds, to his long-time friend, Justin DiPietro, despite numerous warning signs that the policy might put the toddler in jeopardy.
Subsequent to Ayla's disappearance, Derek Tudela has vocally supported and attempted to alibi part of Justin DiPietro's story regarding his missing daughter, even though investigators have asserted that Justin is withholding information regarding what happened to Ayla.
Additionally, your representative Darrell Tudela and his wife Heidi Tudela housed Justin DiPietro in their home following the disappearance of his daughter Ayla. They have publicly supported his claims that his daughter was abducted from 29 Violette Ave despite investigators' repeated assertions that there is no evidence that any abduction took place.
On May 31st, 2012, more than 5 months after her disappearance, Maine State Police spokesperson, Steve McCausland, held a press conference regarding the Ayla Bell Reynolds investigation. He confirmed, for the first time publicly, that MSP investigators believe Ayla is dead. Since no one withholding information is talking, and so much time has passed, Ayla's maternal family and the concerned public are fearful her disappearance will never be prosecuted.
We suggest that State Farm Life Insurance Company has a responsibility to Ayla Bell Reynolds to conduct its own investigation into her disappearance, and to try and uncover, what your affiliated, licensed representative, Darrell Tudela or his son Derek Tudela know regarding Ayla's life insurance policy and if it was a factor in her disappearance.

Ayla Bell Reynolds is still missing!
Dear friend, please help...
I just signed the following petition addressed to:

Corporate Headquarters
State Farm Insurance
One State Farm Plaza
Bloomington, IL 61710

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We the undersigned believe that a questionable, State Farm issued, life insurance policy purchased against the life of Ayla Bell Reynolds, by her father Justin DiPietro, is a factor in her subsequent disappearance from 29 Violette Ave. Waterville, ME, reported on December 17th, 2011.

We also believe that State Farm insurance representative, Darrell Tudela's, son Derek Tudela may have knowingly sold the life insurance policy against Ayla Bell Reynolds, to his long-time friend, Justin DiPietro, despite numerous warning signs that the policy might put the toddler in jeopardy.

Subsequent to Ayla's disappearance, Derek Tudela has vocally supported and attempted to alibi part of Justin DiPietro's story regarding his missing daughter, even though investigators have asserted that Justin is withholding information regarding what happened to Ayla.

Additionally, your representative Darrell Tudela and his wife Heidi Tudela housed Justin DiPietro in their home following the disappearance of his daughter Ayla. They have publicly supported his claims that his daughter was abducted from 29 Violette Ave despite investigators' repeated assertions that there is no evidence that any abduction took place.

On May 31st, 2012, more than 5 months after her disappearance, Maine State Police spokesperson, Steve McCausland, held a press conference regarding the Ayla Bell Reynolds investigation. He confirmed, for the first time publicly, that MSP investigators believe Ayla is dead. Since no one withholding information is talking, and so much time has passed, Ayla's maternal family and the concerned public are fearful her disappearance will never be prosecuted.

We suggest that State Farm Life Insurance Company has a responsibility to Ayla Bell Reynolds to conduct its own investigation into her disappearance, and to try and uncover, what your affiliated, licensed representative, Darrell Tudela or his son Derek Tudela know regarding Ayla's life insurance policy and if it was a factor in her disappearance.

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Will you show your support for the Reynolds family, who are seeking answers regarding the whereabouts of Ayla, by joining me in signing this petition?

Sincerely,
[Your name]

Please spread the word about this petition which can be viewed and signed online HERE

*edited to add Kit's name for credit. Sorry Kit. :(

168 comments:

  1. And for those who may not feel comfortable signing a petition online, this can be downloaded, printed, signed and mailed to State Farm. Some people might not want to do it openly online, but might be willing to do it privately via US Mail.

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    1. Actually, the online petition can be signed WITHOUT making your identifying information available to me personally, OR to other viewers of the online petition, by unmarking the box that says "display my signature publicly"...

      Only the ultimate recipients (in this case State Farm) will have access to the information you provide.

      This is how I chose to sign the petion, myself!

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    2. ^^^ A correction to the above!! ^^^

      It appears that I may have to download the signature list before sending it to State Farm---most likely via snail-mail---and therefore *I* will be able to see names/addresses of petition signateurs.

      (I'm going to see if I can find a way to get around this if AT ALL possible, as I do not have any interest in knowing anyone's "real name" or address.)

      If I CANNOT get around having to download the signature info, I will treat any private information with the utmost discretion and care, and promise that it will only be printed and sent to State Farm Corporate Headquarters...

      There is still the option of mailing directly to the company!

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  2. And I'll add, this is a wonderful idea and a nice way we can all help Ayla.

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  3. Printed out and mailing mine tomorrow AM.

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  4. Great idea.. I'd hate to see any of the Dip's get a cent.. Maybe State Farm will do more then LE has done...

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    1. That comment seems unfair to LE. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. IM SURE THE Reynolds would like more, but I believe it will come. Sorry bout the caps.

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    2. I am sure with Ayla missing, it really is so much harder. LE sure presented themselves as totally determined. And that has been my impression of them. I do have faith in them. I do think public support and care makes a difference. We need to keep speaking out.

      On the previous article someone(s) commented on what they feel is media bias. (shaking my head) That is so not helpful.

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    3. MsP.

      I was one of the people who spoke of A media bias. After the last press conference, on of the editors modified a writers story and published McCausland as saying Justin was not considered a suspect. It fueled the fire for many supporters of Justin until a retraction was printed to correct it. PB I think was the one who posted the retraction. From what I could tell it is the same paper and the same editor that has consistantly done things like this in order to create media instead of writing about the actual story. I do not have a big problem with Maine media in general. Do I think they could ask harder questions, yes but it would not matter because none of the answers are given anyways. That is not the fault of the media. Again, if you think my comments were too harsh I apologize to you and the media outlets I offended. My comment should have been directed more at a single paper and its editors. My apologies!

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    4. I believe LE in most cases work their butts off to find the missing person unfortunately it seems if they don't have a body, or an eye witness it goes no where.. No arrests and no justice for the victim.. I pray this will not be the same..

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  5. The idea is stupid. State Farm will not investigate anything unless a death claim was filed. That did not happen. The DiPietros and the Tudelas, along with many others, believe that Ayla is alive. State Farm is not an investigative agency. It has no obligation to investigate anything unless a claim is filed under one of their policies. This is just an attempt to harass people you don't agree with. Pretty low.

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    1. There are people who believe fraud may have taken place in the purchase of the LIP (perhaps backdating), certainly there is nothing wrong with making State Farm aware of these suspicions. It's not harassment, it's concerned citizens making a request for clarification and answers. If nothing illegal happened, then those who handled this policy have nothing to worry about. What would be wrong is to have doubts and NOT question it. If it's all on the up and up, that will show. Are the policy handlers worried?

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    2. I think State Farm WILL investigate. State Farm is not an investigative agency? Insurance companies investigate many different aspects of the insurance business on a regular basis. Just because a claim has not been filed, does not mean they will not investigate. There are other reasons for insurance companies to investigate, besides ONLY if a claim has been filed.

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    3. Nope. They do no engage in general investigations. They investigate only when there is a claim under one of their polices.

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    4. What evidence is there of backdating, other than in someone's fertile imagination?

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    5. No. This is not an attempt to harass people we "don't agree with".
      It's an attempt to draw PUBLICITY to Ayla's case, and let State Farm KNOW that people believe that the policy was purchased (AND quite likely SOLD) with malicious and fraudulent intent.

      Best case scenario: State Farm will either START investigating (if they aren't already) OR throw additional resources INTO their investigation if one is already ongoing!

      Worst case scenario: Nothing is done by State Farm in response to the petition, but AT LEAST some additional (possibly NATIONAL) coverage of Ayla's disappearance is garnered.

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    6. Who cares about backdating at this point. The issue is not was it backdated, what type of investigation they run, or even if a claim was filed (which I believe they wont do without a DC)! It is about putting pressure on LE when SF asks for evidence, when SF legal asks about a DC, when SF investigators ask the DA and AG why no charges have been filed. Then if Trista and her lawyers ask, SF can turn over any evidence they collect for a civil suit. Keeping pressure on the a-holes that have harmed Ayla. JMO

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    7. I have to agree with the anon. above.
      IMO it is simply to harass.

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    8. Anon 9:33, 10:41...

      BS- BS -BS!!!
      Dont hurt yourselves kissin your hurtin a**es now!

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    9. Pretty Low!!!!! What is prety low is a low life drug dealer taking a policy out on a daughter that has only been with him for 3 days!!!

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    10. I actually think State Farm may very well care about all that has gone on in this case. I really don't see a downside to writing to them. Especially if people are respectful.

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    11. what about the actions of one of their employees, getting so involved in a missing persons case that they were behind the policy of....my job investigates employees acting out on social network forums...so your saying, state farm could care less about the conduct of their employees???? you might be right, I'm just saying...

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    12. Looking at it differently....They have an agent who is supporting and standing up for a friend in need. Does the company have an interest in determining their agents motives and actions at this point in time given what few fact are public ally available? No claim has apparently been made against theodicy at this point. It is my guess that until such a claim is made there is no basis to investigate nor would the company have a standing to obtain certain information that would be needed to investigate Ok there are some typos in here just ignore them

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  6. I appreciate the thought behind this but I think it misses the mark for a couple reasons. I am leaning toward the policy having been bought for drug laundering purposes, and if that's the case, it would not be a direct factor in her death.

    What they really should be investigating is not Ayla's death but the circumstances under which this policy was sold to a reputed low level drug dealer on a child whom he had never asserted any custodial rights until 3 days before the policy issuance. They should be looking into their own policies and determining if they need to change to insure that the parent actually raising a child is informed/given time to respond if an absent parent purchases life insurance on a child. They should be looking at the amount and asking was such an amount appropriate on a baby.

    Even if the insurance were bought with a straight-out intention to murder her, it's not the job of a life insurance company to investigate her death. What they investigate is whether a claim is payable if one is made. If not claim is made, it would be a waste of their resources to try to make a preemptive claims determination.

    But looking at the circumstances in which this policy was issued and determining and wrongdoing of its agents or need for changes in business practices, yes that's something they can and should do.

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    1. And by looking at everything you said FC, plus asking LE about will there be a DC issued, will charges be filed, etc, they are keeping the pressure on not just LE but Derek and Darrell as well. JMO but if it applies continuous pressure and another set of eyes, can't that only be a plus for Ayla and awareness.

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    2. Well I certainly do hope they have to be responsible how these policies are sold.

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    3. I have to agree with forever curious regarding the wording and intent of the petition. Justin has not been convicted of the crime yet, nor has he officially been named a suspect or even a person of interest in this case. Derek Tudela has a right to support his friend - and he very well may believe that Justin is innocent (sometimes people can be very blind). I can guarantee that SF Insurance will not proceed with an investigation heeding the formidable cost to perform such. Furthermore,in my educated opinion, the inference of Derek and Derrell Tuela *might* have cognition of the circumstances related to Ayla's disappearance will not induce favorable movement from SF.
      However, I do believe that the practice of vendition should be brought into examination and the wording of the petition should mirror the sentiment.

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  7. AWESOME job VTLady and Wordman!

    I didn't/don't need any credit. I didn't really DO anything.

    VTLady and Wordman really did a wonderful job with this!

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    1. Thank You Everyone! :))

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    2. Thank you to ALL three of you for creating this petition and THANK YOU to ALL who sign the petition. Keep the pressure on those responsible for this tragedy!

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  8. A brilliant idea in every way. If they thought the FBI was thorough in their investigation, wait till they get a load of these guys. They willl use devious tactics to get there information that public service police officers would not dare. They are street smart and will get to the right people.

    Tori, you continually amaze me with your resiliency!

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  9. I like the idea.
    When I see a SFarm commercial, I think TURD.
    Good corporate branding for SF in Maine.
    a Canadian Friend.

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  10. Check out the law in Maine on tortious interference with an advantageous relationship and defamation before you sign anything. You may be signing up to be defendant in a law suit. Just sayin.

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    1. There is nothing illegal about petitioning for social action or change.
      This is not a call to "boycott" anyone's business, or destroy their reputation... just for State Farm to conduct an investigation.

      There is nothing within the petition NOT already publicly known, either!

      Nice try in dissuading people from supporting the petition...
      No need to state what family I believe has a reason to FEAR this petition's success---
      I think people can figure that out for themselves!

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    2. How could signing a petition, asking an insurance company to investigate a (possibly fraudulent/malicious) LIP, taken out on a baby, who just so happened to "disappear" several weeks later, who NOW LE does not believe she will be found alive.

      If the LIP and the "sale" of the LIP, are on the "up and up", then no one involved has anything to worry about, and quite frankly, should not feel it a "bother" to be investigated.

      I can't see how a petition of such nature, or the investigation itself, could possibly be considered harrassment.

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    3. It can't, Kit..
      The Family In The Manse, would like to scare people off from signing it, because if it takes off, and the media covers it, there could be uncomfortable questions asked.
      And, THIS TIME, Mama Hen likely won't be controlling it all, like she did the "1700 word" article she dictated to Ben McKenna!
      JMHO

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    4. Oops, I guess I didn't finish my sentence/first paragraph.

      It should say: How could signing a petition....be considered illegal and/or harassment?

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    5. http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/ayla-reynolds-life-insurance-policy.html

      Read this VERY informative/professional post on SA!

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    6. And I love this article as well
      http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/06/justin-coward.html

      Especially these two passages
      "Surrounded by women willing to lie for him, Justin DiPietro stands as a symbol of the worst of today's modern manhood: he is a violent bully, terrorizing those he should protect; he will not work, instead seeking gain of the demise of others; he will not speak, but lets women speak for him."

      And ""Justin is a coward" said Trista Reynolds. "I'm calling him out now" to tell where Ayla is.

      Justin DiPietro defines cowardice for America."

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  11. LE did not say that Ayla is dead. They said it is their opinion that it is *unlikely* that she will be found alive. After 5 months I can see why they would be discouraged. But many people think they are giving up way too soon.

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    1. Many people? Sure Charla/Courtney.. More like 6 or 7 people think LE should chase their fairy tale so they can avoid going to jail for the st of their miserable lives...OOOPS! That ain't gonna happen..Next.

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    2. Annon ~ The words were, "HIGHLY unlikely"

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  12. My neighbor's business was set on fire a few years back. He had insurance through State Farm. They never looked into it much.

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    1. Was there a "missing" baby involved, who had a LIP placed against her, just weeks before?

      I see your point/concern, but I don't think it's the same, in comparison.

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  13. Don't listen to the negative comments. Great job. I will be sending mine out tomorrow with an attached hand written letter.
    Let's do this for Ayla, folks. She cannot speak- we will be her voice. Each and every one of us.

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    1. Yes I agree!!! With K
      Singed my online...
      Justice for Baby Ayla!!!!!!!

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  14. Is it still possible to make an edit to the petition? The second to the last paragraph should read Since no one with information is talking or Since no on holding information! I think withholding is not the word you were looking for. JMO if it can still be edited, if not I am rady to sign!

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    1. I will see if I can fix that typo, JohnP!---thanks for letting me know! :)

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    2. Signed and happy to do it for Answers for Ayla!

      Even if it helps another child in the future by specifying criteria, such as both parents being present at the time of signing, it is worth the minimal time needed to speak up for the children!!!

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  15. Awesome job!!!
    I signed and shared it on my Facebook, and asked all of my friends to sign and share it also.
    I believe state farm has a responsibility to investigate the questionable way this policy was purchased.
    If nothing else, they need to investigate the agent that sold said policy, who knows what they might uncover?
    Thanks for creating the petition, I believe something positive will come of this

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  16. Thank you. The Tudelas silence in the disappearance of Ayla and the purchase of the LIP is damaging State Farm's reputation. State Farm's silence regarding their agents (Derek and Darrell Tudela) actions makes the company seem cold and uncaring. Not good for a insurance company. An official statement or even a corporate representative who can answer questions, that does not disclose private policy info of JD, would be wise. Signed.

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    1. I totally agree. Who, after following this case, would ever go and purchase any kind of insurance from State Farm. In fact, when I send mine, I'm adding a handwritten note stating that unless they properly address this issue I will avoid their company like the plague.

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  17. Great idea! The only thing the Dips are getting is a prison cell and some pretty scary new 'girlfriends'! Signed and posting on my wall.

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    1. Can you imagine? He's going to have to be in seclusion.

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    2. Thanks, for signing AND posting the link on your wall, nannieb!
      :)

      This is about giving AYLA a voice, since no one who HAS the information needed to bring her home is willing to TALK!

      It's also about showing the Reynolds family that they are supported, and that the public hasn't forgotten Ayla, or that justice needs to be served in her name.

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    3. Vt Lady, Kit, Wordman, thank you sooo much! mountain mama

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  18. Somebody help me? I don't think a certain person from another blog knows how to use their IP tracker properly. Could that be true?

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    1. I was accused of being a "friend of a D".

      It just proves to me this person isn't using HER IP tracker properly.

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    2. She is claiming that Courtney is in WV but also earlier accused Jeff of being in West Virginia. I don't think she knows her head from her ass. She also is posting what she says is JMH's ip address, funny thing is it is not Jyl's ip address. I have 2 trackers on here, I know what the admins ip addresses are.

      I did just purge the blog of all of her crappy posts and even the FYI post mentioning her since I checked the ip tracker and she keeps coming back to check the post every 5 minutes. I figured I would remove it so she can stop obsessing over whether or not people are talking about her

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  19. Great idea! This is when I LOVE this blog!

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  20. Where's the rest of the submitted comments?

    Oh, right. You don't post the comments that refute your bogus blog posts anymore...just the comments that pat you all on the back.

    Figures.

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    1. Oh, shad ap, already!

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    2. WIJA, I don't know your intention, but I find your response hilarious!

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    3. Anon 10:46 Oh hell I was going to explain what was criteria for deletion of a comment but you know what they are. Your comment will be posted like the other 5 or 6 if appropriate for this post. If not don't bother commenting.

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    4. Every blog does that ,mine have not been posted on other blogs,even though I was respectful,I had a different opinion and it never was posted. Get used to it.

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    5. I dont know how they would investigate anything until there is a confirmed death.LE is saying highly unlikely that she is alive but they still haven't confirmed yet,right now it is their belief.

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    6. I think the POLICY itself and the sale of the policy need to be investigated, not a claim against the policy.

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    7. anon 11:26, the statement made is correct. This post is not to say that it is confirmed. It was addressed earlier that we simply want SF to put pressure on those responsible for what has happened. The insurance investigators can use tactics that LE can not to investigate questionable circumstances. Will it be used in court later on, maybe maybe not, no one will know unless they investigate the circumstances of the policy!

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    8. John P, but I'm not sure that State Farm could investigate anything if no claim has been made on the life insurance.

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    9. SNC, I believe they can investigate the specifics of the policy, the issuing criteria, and the practices of the issuing agency. They may not be able to investigate the acts against Ayla, but they can investigate the policy and the agency issuing the policy(ies) at any time. JMO

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    10. John P, I tend to disagree here because if Justin had made a claim on the insurance policy, then that would be different. Plenty of insurance companies issue life insurance policies, I don't think there was something wrong with the Tudelas issuing it to Justin. They still believe Justin is innocent. And we don't even know if it was a motive or not. Even if it had been a motive for Justin (that we don't know yet), the life insurance policy might have been issued in good faith. I just feel it's not fair to blame the Tudelas for what happened to Ayla. They think Justin is innocent. I'm not defending Justin, because I know he harmed Ayla and he is a coward. He's a jerk and a coward because he also dragged his whole family and friends into it. Some may know, that we don't know, and how much they know if they know, that we don't know either. The one who is responsible for Ayla's "disappearance","murder""accident cover" is Justin. If somebody else is involved or knows that we don't know yet. I know people are angry at Justin's friends for defending him, and I can understand, but they think they are right to defend him. But they shouldn't take all the blame for what happened to Ayla, they didn't kill Ayla, Justin did.

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    11. "Plenty of insurance companies issue life insurance policies, I don't think there was something wrong with the Tudelas issuing it to Justin." I will agree with what you say about other policies being issued to other people and by other companies. No debating that. What I do debate is a BFF issuing a policy on the life of a child,

      #1 with only one parent present
      #2 to a parent known to have temporary custody
      #3 to a BFF with possible drug connections
      #4 to a BFF with no prolonged work history
      #5 to a BFF with no prolonged home address
      #6 to a parent who had custody for less than a week who had seen the child only 5-7 times previously in her entire life.

      These things make me feel that if there was nothing wrong, then the regulations and guidelines MUST be changed. Only an investigation to this policy and the practices of the issuing agencies (not neccessarily just the Tudelas, any others with questionable surroundings) can make this change happen.

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    12. Sorry I could not respond to the second part of your comment SNC. You kind of lost me with the he knows, she knows, they knows, and we knows but I can definately say I Know you sounded pretty upset when you wrote it! LOL

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    13. I apologize, I didn't mean to be disrespectful. Well, I'm upset with Justin, as most people are. My guess is that Derek only sees the good side of Justin and probably didn't see anything wrong with issuing the life insurance to his friend. Sometimes you think you know people and then one day you discover you didn't know them so well.

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    14. SNC, your comment was not disrespectful in any way. You stated your opinion which differed from mine. I stated mine which differed from your. No disrespect on either side. A debate as to why we feel the way we do.

      I do feel Derek may have been trying to help a friend for whatever reason. But ultimately, if the regulations and insurance laws allow one parent to purchase a policy against a childs life the regulation or law needs to be changed. If there is a law preventing this then Derek is in violation and commited insurance fraud. Only an investigation can clear up this situation.

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    15. How many LIP Agents have sold policies on toddlers and THEN are one of the last people to see the toddler alive to provide an alibi?

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    16. That's it right there in a nutshell, kimc!

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  21. Alternative 2: Ask the Maine Insurance Commissioner to look into this situation and determine if the law was followed, and if so, whether changes to the law should be made. Here is proposed draft:

    Bureau of Insurance
    34 State House Station
    Augusta, ME 04333


    Dear Mr. Commissioner:

    I am writing as a concerned citizen about a life insurance policy State Farm issued on the life of Ayla Bell Reynolds, a missing infant from Waterville, Maine.

    The policy was issued to Ayla’s father Justin DiPietro for $25,000 in October 2011. Justin DiPietro and the baby’s mother Trista Reynolds never married and Trista Reynolds was the sole caretaker of the baby up until 3 days before this policy issued.

    I am writing to ask first that you consider whether this policy was issued in accordance with law and second that you consider whether legal changes are needed to prevent two distinct potential abuses this case highlights, (1) solicitation of life insurance on a child by one parent without the other parent’s knowledge or consent, particularly where the parents are not living together and the applicant parent is not the historical custodian of the child, and (2) life insurance policy issuance where reasonable suspicion exists that the purpose of the policy might be illicit, including possible money laundering or intention to inflict harm on the insured.

    In this case, several factors suggested the life insurance application was suspicious:

    * The insured lived in the applicant’s home only 3 days at the time of application. Had State Farm asked, it would have learned that there was no court-ordered custody and the applicant had not had de facto custody at any time prior to the week he purchased the life insurance.

    * State Farm apparently did not inform Ayla’s mother or give her an opportunity to consent or object to the issuance of a life insurance policy on her daughter’s life. As the parent who raised Ayla and had de facto custody all of her life up until 3 days before the life insurance application (at which point she retained the same custodial interest she had previously), Trista Reynolds should have had a right to be informed and to consent or object to the policy.

    * The amount of the policy was grossly disproportionate to the burial costs for a child in the locality, and Ayla was not a wage earner, raising reasonable questions as to the appropriateness of the coverage. Where such factors exist, they should trigger a review as to the motive for and appropriateness of the policy.

    * With (1) an unusually high policy face amount, (2) a parent who was not the child’s normal caretaker making the application, (3) no knowledge or consent indicated by the parent who customarily cared for the child, and (4) the applicant allegedly being unemployed, State Farm should have been required by law to either investigate possible illicit motives such as money laundering or intent to harm the insured or deny coverage.

    Thank you for looking into this situation and making any changes you deem appropriate.

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    1. I agree FC. Nicely put and this may well be the next petition. I would sign it if it pressures the parties involved.

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    2. Great wording! I agree on all points, they should have raised red flags--which insurance agents have the "duty" to screen applicants for potential shadiness:)

      If there isn't a law, there should be a law that BOTH parents are informed and in agreement of a LIP against a child!

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    3. You may need to mention a specific licensed insurance sales person. Some times complaints/requests have to be specific or the investigative portion of the licensing board cannot investigate the licensee. JMW

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    4. Thanks JMW. Insert new second sentence in second paragraph: Derek Tudela, son of licensed agent Darrell Tudela, sold Justin DiPietro this policy.

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    5. Will send today!

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    6. Anon, 9:49 PM, that is WHY we want it investigated. If there was no foul play, no one need worry. Legitimate people and honest people do not mind being investigated.

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    7. Note this should have said take steps to get appropriate legal changes made if necessary rather than asking the insurance commissioner to make them. He could change his agency's regulations, but only within the scope of existing law. If existing law wouldn't permit these changes, he would need to ask for a legislative remedy.

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  22. What is the tllom blog, or Facebook page, and where, please?

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    1. You won't see their secret site where they talk the dirt, only a handful of trusted and hand selected people are allowed there. What you will see on their 'public' facebook page is their cleanup for public consumption crap. Ask to join their semi-secret group for the real story. And if you are lucky, you can get in their SUPER secret group (but I will warn you, not many get in there!). After all, that is where they talk about everyone else.

      go ahead, ask to join!

      Semi-Secret group url:
      https://www.facebook.com/groups/180368478735929/

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  23. https://www.facebook.com/aylalight

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    1. Thank you, Anon 1138.

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    3. Suspicious573, are you getting a little pissy? No ones believing your BS?

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    4. Not at all. Enjoy yourself in hell!

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  24. STEPH,who are these jerks your talking about? ARE you ignorant? These people have put up posters,helped with vigils,searched every weekend.And are going to until Ayla is found! What the hell have you done? --Why dont you put some effort in,and start by looking everywhere for her? Not just where you feel like looking.Do you think it is easy looking for a dead child,it makes me want to puke,Everytime I go out.You have no idea what people are doing,So why dont you put in an effort to STFU.--- Steph Sleeper Sounds to me like this small group of individuals need to stop putting their effort into being hateful jerks and instead put that effort into finding AYLA!!!! ♥
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    1. I'm helping by SIGNING THE PETITION! Why wouldn't you want State Farm Agents looking for Ayla too?

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  25. I have a question for TLLOM,you say Ayla was kidnapped,then why arent you searching like we are? You have no proof that she is safe,So why arent you looking in the woods ,on the banks of the river? After all you dont know what your kidnapper did with her,do you? your wanting her to be safe doesnt mean that she is.So get your ass out there and look for Ayla everywhere!

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    1. Exactly!

      If she was kidnapped, there would have been a ransom request by now! Oh, wait- LE ( inc FBI) has said she was NOT kidnapped > that means they have PROOF!

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    2. Sorry Anon, posted in the wrong place. Not enough coffee yet.

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  26. Signed :D

    Excellent job! We, the public, were asked to help, and now the public is demanding answers. Ask and ye shall receive!

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  27. State Farm must not be happy for being publicly linked to a missing baby's case. I would think they already have their own investigation going on. If not, I don't know what to think of their company.

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  28. Trista Reynolds was literally the last person to know that Ayla was missing. On the morning of Dec. 17, 2011, Justin DiPietro reported the child missing at around 8:30 a.m., but it wasn't until nearly noon that day that Trista found out about the disappearance of her 20-month old daughter.
    She was told by police that Justin DiPietro had barricaded himself in the bathroom of his home on the morning that he reported baby Ayla missing.

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    1. Anon 7:07, I agree the sequence of notifications and subsequent searches and LE statements show that Trista did not kidnap Ayla.

      I missed the part about being barricaded in the bathroom though. I thought he was out running the streets according to Selenas description of events when he called 911. Did I miss something? If so, can I ask that you post a link to the information.

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    2. Tristas new interview,http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chelseahoffman.com%2F2012%2F06%2Fmother-of-ayla-reynolds-speaks-to.html&h=LAQHdHPAqAQGj1kKnSX9_LYDERMjFRqK894IE4IfCNx8JFw

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    3. People reading that interview should skip to the end first and realize even what is attributed to Trista in direct quotations may not be Trista's exact words. That said, the interview is noteworthy for a couple of reasons, not only the barricading but the presence of a gun in the household.

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    4. In this interview, it is stated also,

      CH - When was the last time you tried to speak with or see your daughter?
      Trista - "On the 15th of December [(two nights before Ayla Reynolds was reported missing)] Justin would not let me talk to her. He said she was watching Home Alone 3 and couldn't come to the phone."

      I am now wondering if Trista could have told JD on this call that she had filed papers to get Ayla back? It would be a natural reaction to let it out if being told you can't speak with your child. This could have been the rage the next morning when he got home and was alone with Ayla? Just thinking out loud.

      And it is clearly another lie by JD to Trista since we know he was in Portland that night!

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    5. I wonder when he barricaded himself in the bathroom and who saw him do it ? The police ? Courtney ? Elisha ? Did it happen during the night or in the morning ?

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    6. And even one more passage from the interview

      "Trista Reynolds told me that some of Ayla's belongings haven't been accounted for including a camouflage bag and a baby blanket. She claimed to have asked about these items to no result. Indeed it appears that she is being kept in the dark as much as the public is."

      Why would LE still not tell her about the items found. They were found before the items LE has said were not involved with Aylas case. This leads me to believe, there is more than a good chance the items found first are related in some way! JMO

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    7. SNC, I would assume it was after the 911 call. This assumption is based on the assumption that JD was running around inside and then running around outside of the house looking for Ayla between 8:00 and 8:50 (around 8:30) which is when when it was claimed JD called 911 (I know the article says around 8:30 but that was not the sequencial time relayed by Selena IIRC). That and the fact that Selena says cell coverage is sporadic when moving around at the house which is what caused the 911 call to keep "disconnecting"! If he was barracaded in the bathroom with coverage, roaming disconnects would not be an issue right?

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    8. He probably didn't tell them all the same thing. So, do you think this is the police that found Justin barricaded in the bathroom ? If that's the case, he was definitely not looking for his daughter, well he knows where Ayla is...

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    9. If it was the police which I assume it was because of the wording on the interview (though the wording was that of CH and not direct quotes), it begs to ask, what was he barricaded for? I know the spin will say because he is shy and was sick to his stomach about Ayla being gone. What if it was getting rid of last minute evidence he didn't want anyone else in the house to see? What if he was taking a masking agent to hide the presence of illegal drugs? What if he just needed to urinate? I wish we knew why?????

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    10. You are right, it was probably to get rid of last minute evidence, blood stains maybe ? Yes, it's the wording which made me wonder. I doubt Elisha or Courtney would have told the police Justin barricaded himself in the bathroom and then not have suspected anything weird with Justin.

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    11. An innocent person wouldn't barricade themselves in the bathroom! That is also very telling of his character and possible involvement, and is very significant IMO--
      What's Heidi's excuse for this behavior? He had to do his make up and take his midol first?

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    12. I can't see into thier group sessions of congress at TLLOM but I imagine the first excuse will be his was sick to his stomach, maybe because they were out of Midol and he had to wait for everything to pass! (Oooops, that was an unintended pun)

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    13. I commented down below without reading up here first.

      I think that was a really good, in depth interview.

      I think the locking himself in the bathroom is quite strange. I'm sure he will use an excuse of being emotional, crying, etc. BUT, that is not going to "pass the smell test", IMO. Your baby is "missing" - police arrive, to HELP you - you lock yourself in the bathtoom?? Fishy... It seems with all the "dropped calls" to 911, and then barricading himself in the bathroom, once they do arrive, seems like he didn't really WANT LE to show up, he didn't want their "help". I wonder WHO made him set the "kidnapping" up that day/night, and who made him call 911? At this point, I'm getting the feeling someone else kind of helped to push him into this. I mean, it had to be done, no matter what, but I feel like he was not fully ready/prepared... JMO

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    14. I wonder if CH would try to interview Justin. See if he has a "comment"... It seems she doesn't mind and isn't afraid to actually ask some questions.

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    15. Kit, it was also said in the interview Trista spoke with Justin the evening of the 15th. I was thinking when she was refused the RIGHT to speak with Ayla, she may have told JD she filed the paperwork earlier that day. Then when he got back from Portland the next morning, upset, tired, PO'ed with Trista, and a child needing cared for, JD went int the rage that harmed Ayla so badly? Just a thought.

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    16. And we know the answer to CH doing an interview with JD. JD did not return messages left or JD was unable to be reached for comment!

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    17. That could be possible. If someone was keeping me from my child, I could see lashing out and telling them that I filed. But, Trista said she didn't tell him.

      IF he knew, that could have def set him off, but I'd have to assume he didn't hear it from Trista.

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    18. I remember that being mentioned by Trista back when she believed JD couldn't hurt Ayla. I was just wondering out loud if it could have been mentioned as a ribbing not remembered or told about because at that time she felt she would still see Ayla again? IDK, I know your recollection is right, I was just wondering out loud. The news of the gun from Phoebe has really unnerved me a bit because of my first post many weeks ago where Ayla was harmed in the basement by a gunshot! Dam I hope I have been wrong for so long!

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    19. Trista said she felt that Phoebe ran the household. So Phoebe may have pushed and orchastrated this whole thing ...abduction/kidnapping . Someone out there said it was a very odd occurance for Phoebe to want to leave the home for a night and stay in a nearby hotel/motel. I think she is witholding info too.

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    20. Yeah, he was probably shooting up the rest of his Oxycotton so that he would not get arrested for possession.. LOOSER!

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    21. I was thinking that he was hiding because he didn't want the police to see his smashed in face and ask him about it. Knowing that there was a gun in that house along with the loud noise the neighbors heard really makes me think.

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  29. Good job Kit, and VTLady.. :D

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  30. So many questions,from Tristas interview,Why would Ayla be awake at 3am,and have access to a gun? The neighbor heard a noise that sounded like a gunshot,that doesnt sound like an accident to me Justin.

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    1. Reread the interview, nowheres is this said. There is mention to all three but not tied together as you make it out to be.

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    2. Your right ,sorry John I was thinking out loud,lol ,I was just trying to figure out after she mentioned the gun shot,How an accident could have happened.And trying to make sense of the whole night.But your right they may not be tied together.

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    3. No need to apologize. I am just glad the other site did not interpret it that way or they would now be accusing Trista of knowing there was a gun and she was the one who harmed Ayla. That other site gets me worried sometimes.

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  31. Signed, and a link on my Facebook wall posted!

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  32. I've signed and passed this on to family and friends. Maybe this will heighten awareness a little more now. Good job to the drafters.

    Steve

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  33. That is an extremely well-penned petition!

    I think the next petition should be directed to the licensing board of daycare facilities. Heidi Tudela broke many a rule by inviting Justin & Co. into her home where small children were present.

    I would like to see Heidi's license to operate revoked on the grounds of reckless endangerment. Heidi put parents in the untenable positon of deciding between necessary childcare and their child's safety.

    How about it, ladies? Are you up for another petition?

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    1. I've been thinking of that also mckeekitty. I do think it is a good idea for the daycare operations to be investigated. I'm not saying she SHOULD lose her license; only if other children have been put in harms way (which it appears they may have been). I think it should be investigated. The Tudela Daycare and the Tudela insurance business (investigation) may go hand in hand. IF the LIP WAS sold, knowingly, under fraudulent/malicious intent, THEN Ayla goes "missing", THEN Justin is invited to live with the Tudela's, in their home, with a home-based daycare, that really does need to be investigated IMO. It's one thing to "stick by" your friend, but it's a whole other thing, to be possibly, knowingly, placing even more children in harms way.

      Same with the insurance investigation, if no wrong doing has occured, then there is nothing for them to worry about. They shouldn't even mind being investigated, for the sake of Ayla.

      I don't want to get off topic on this post, but Trista's interview with Chelsea Hoffman is very in-depth.

      http://www.chelseahoffman.com/2012/06/mother-of-ayla-reynolds-speaks-to.html

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    2. Thanks for the link, Kit. Yes...a very interesting article.

      A gun in the house with three small children? Was it locked away? Was it properly registered? Does Phoebe have a license to possess a firearm?

      Conflicting stories surrounding the broken arm... a story for the doctor, and a different story for Trista and the media.

      So, Justin scammed Trista to get Ayla's Social Security Number? Nice.

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    3. I will fight Peter and Tori to be the first to sign Miss Heidi's petition.;)

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  34. I would be glad to sign that one as well! ITA Mckeekitty!!!!!!

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  35. Signed and shared. And flagged some crazy posting on the wall of the petition. If you think it's not going to work why bother creating a scene on the wall. The poster said it wouldn't get 100 signatures. Well that was at 50 sigs. And then I just went back to check and it's at 127. So stuff it whoever you are. It's out there and it's spreading like wildfire.

    Thank you VTLady and Kit!!!!!

    And hiding out in the bathroom instead of looking for your daughter. Hmmmmmmmmm.

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    1. Ruby, the 100 signature comment is a direct quote from the pinky blog. She actually even put it in all caps on the other blog. Such a nice person to be so concerned about LIPs being given out to anyone for any reason without concern for the children. I have come to expect nothing less from that site.

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  36. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you VtLady, Kit, Wordman. What a Great Job!
    FYI, this is posted by "that" blogger on the petition page that asks Why Are Signing?

    YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY. STATE FARM HAS NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE, BECAUSE NO ONE HAS MADE A CLAIM ON ANY POLICY. JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK SOMETHING WAS DONE FRAUDULENTLY DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS. YOU ALL ARE ONLY DOING THIS TO HARASS THE TUDELAS, AND IT'S WRONG. NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS STUPID ASS PETITION. I'LL BE SHOCKED IF IT GETS OVER 100 SIGNATURES. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE DRIVING AROUND UNINSURED RIGHT NOW? ASHLEY POULIOT, YOU COME RIGHT TO MIND. LOW LIFE TRAILER TRASH PEOPLE, GET A LIFE.

    UHHH, Who sounds like the low life trailer trash? All of the other posts are Intelligent - this screaming rampage, not so much. IMO that poster is not doing the Tudela's any favors - again.

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    1. "Just because you think"...

      That sentence comes up an awful lot from certain Justin's friends.

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    2. Direct quote even in all caps from the pink blogger! I am really starting to wonder if the pink blogger might not have a few more identities then originally thought? What do you think Bride and KIMC?

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    3. FYI the petition has well over 100 signatures and is GROWING. Bahahahahhhahaha to "that" blogger. Sorry I couldn't resist!

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    4. Maybe I don't understand... Can you leave a comment for why you are signing, if you didn't actually sign?

      Anyway, if you don't want to sign a petition, WHY would you leave a nast comment?

      In response to this:

      "JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK SOMETHING WAS DONE FRAUDULENTLY DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS."

      Isn't that the POINT of investigating it? To find out if it was fraudulent...?

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    5. Yes, John p, I think maybe. Someone is more pissed than was warrented by a pink blogger with no ties?

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    6. Kit, stop that right now!!! Logic is not allowed when playing with the simple minded!

      It would serve them right to have signed the petition to leave the nasty comments. Don't get any more simple minded than leaving a nasty message on a petition trying to protect many children and get answers for one missing Angel!

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    7. I think about that blogger and it's pseudonyms as little as possible John. ;)

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    8. I think you both are right Chicky & KIMC. :)

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    9. Thanks for the heads up, kimc!

      I've put a request into change.org for help in purging the comments section of unwanted/profane messages.
      What I love about her bothering TO LEAVE a message, though, is the fact she HAD TO SIGN the petition, in order to do so!!!
      Lol!

      Thanks for adding a signature to the petition, Charla...your support is appreciated!
      :D

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    10. Well it was probably a fake name and email. I don't understand why someone would want to interfere with a petition, regarding Ayla, just because they don't agree with it. If it was a petition to sign, in person, would they instead, handwrite a nasty message?

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  37. the evil smile of a heartless hagJune 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    it is not a crime to to insure your kids. it is not a crime to sell to family and friends, in fact it is encouraged by insurance companies.
    however, did derek KNOW or assist in any way for justin to fraudently obtain ayla's ssn. did he notify trista and get her consent for the policy to be issued?was it pheebs who told justin to tell trista she was opening a savings account so he could trik her into releasing her ssn. well, we know pheebs never opened that account, never intended to. does gabby have one, why not ayla. BECAUSE SHE INTENDED TO GET RID OF AYLA, THAT'S WHY. PHEEBS IS THE MASTERMIND. PHEEBS USED HER DHHS CONTACT TO GRAB AYLA, PHEEBS ENCOURAGED THE LIFE INS, THE STOPPING OF CHILDSUPPORT, THE FILING OF HER AS A DEPENDANT ON THE TAXES.PHEEBS KILLED AYLA, THAT IS WHY THEY ARE ALL COVERING FOR HER. SHE IS SMILING IN THE PIC WITH THE POSTER, SHE WAS GLAD HER PLAN WORKED AND SHE GOT RID OF AYLA. WAS SMILING BECAUSE SHE WAS HAPPY SHE WAS FINALLY GONE.

    the continguent beneficaiary..I'll bet it's pheebs. she ran to the hotel to alibi herself, with justin in jail she is next in line to collect the 25k....OR SO SHE THINKS.....

    Lance found out about the plan after the fact, and punched justin for going along wit it.that is why he fled to vears for xmas.

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  38. the evil smile of a heartless hagJune 5, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    pheebs finds out trista has filed fri through her dhhs contacts.
    pheebs stays at a notel that night to remove herselffrom the scene of the future crime and obtain an alibi for herself
    pheebs sneaks into the house, brings or finds ayla in the basement, shoots her at the foot of justins bed to set him up and threatens to kill them all if they dont go along with her abduction scam.she then runs back to the motel leaving them to clean up the blood and dump her body in the river.
    justin is told he has to call 911
    courtney is told her sis will be turned in, and is to show pheebs means business. she is told ayden wil be taken away since pheebs has dhhs conections
    justin knows his mom is going to kill ayla so he takes out a 25k policy, easy cash he thinks
    , phhebs tells him to ck trista with the phony savingacct to get aylas ssn.
    pheebs lawyered up for an abduction? no, because she is in deep doo doo and she knows it. she adds elishs representation as to not be too obvious.

    phhebsis a tyrant, and abuser, a loser.

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  39. Is it illegal to take out a life insurance policy on your child that you have had in your house for a few days and that you had removed the child from the home where the child was placed with other family to babysit and that you do not have any legal custody of and without the permission of the other parent. Is it legal for an insurance agent to solicite from a close friend or relative with the agent fully aware of the circumstances?

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    1. I'm not sure on those questions. But there definately needs to be policy changes if not and more scrutiny if anybody takes out policies or policies larger than an amount to cover a basic funeral. There should be a comprehensive background check. Checking out things like rent/own home, credit history/finances, employment status, conflict of interest, __________ fill in the blank........

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    2. How about medical history or consent to access by the parents to ensure not history of abuse?

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    3. No. Unfortunately, it isn't "illegal" per se, Chicky...

      However, the decision to SELL such a policy, when these circumstances are KNOWN by the insurance representative, is highly unethical.

      And, Derek Tudela CAN'T claim
      "plausible deniability" WRT the specifics of JDiP's relationship to Ayla, like some random LIP salesman might be able to!

      NOT after he provided the information about his son's "playdate" with Ayla the morning before her reported "abduction"...

      And, his Mommy housing Justin and orchestrating that sham MS article from her Manse On The Hill,

      OR, after their repeated assertions of "knowing Justin" since childhood, and "knowing his character"!!

      The sale of the LIP against Ayla represents a VERY unique situation, and one that WARRANTS careful examination by State Farm... regardless of whether a claim has actually been filed, or not.

      The Tudelas should ONLY fear a thorough internal investigation by State Farm, if they have something to hide. In FACT, if they're hands truly are "clean" in all this, they should WELCOME such an investigation, as it will likely "clear their name" in the minds of many people!

      JMHO/MOO

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  40. I occasionally visit the petition website to check on numbers. And lately I've been noticing that more and more people from out of state are signing. I've seen TN, UT, MN, NJ, IL, AL....etc. This makes me smile. And from Trista's most recent interview these things make her smile and touch her heart and help her to pull through. Come on Maine! Come on USA and beyond! All for Ayla Bell Reynolds!!!!! Justice for Ayla!!!!!

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  41. SUSPICIOUS YES, but no, chicky it is not illegal. you dont have to have custody, or have a job. parents and grandparents can take out a policy. this is a NON ISSUE.it is not illegal to solicit from a friend, it is encouraged by ins co's to solicit friends and family members.it depends on state ins laws if the other parent must be notified prior to the policy being issued on a minor child.

    when did trista become aware of the policy and has she contacted state farm and contested it,asked for the policy to be cancelled? if not, then why not. not contacting them after she has knowlede is implied consent/that she doesn't contest i'st issuance.

    the real issue here is did derek know justin scammed trista for the ssn he used to write the policy? justin has neverbeen convicted of a crime has he, so that is anon issue too.

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    1. I beg to differ on one key point. As a grandparent, the ins company I dealt with, not SF, required the consent of the mother and father for me to purchase a policy on behalf of my grandchildren! If that is not the law in Maine it should be!

      And as for SUSPICIOUS YES Derek, being the long time BFF of Justin knew that JD had had Ayla for less than a week, seen her 5-7 times in her lifetime, was away from the house she was being "cared" for more than he was there, the purchaser was unemployed, had a terrible work history (if any at all), and was currently in a "long term" relationship with another woman and her child. With all this accumulated knowledge, if I was a SF investigator, our corporate policy would have to be modified in regards to selling LIP's AGAINST a child rather than for a child, and I would recommend termination of the agent (Derek) for bringing questionable light to the company. Appearance is 60% of business success! JMO

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    2. ins 101, there's no implied consent. Trista found out about the policy from the cops after the reported disappearance.

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  42. Absolutely JohnP! Derek is ruining State Farm's name. They need to investigate this for their own protection. I hope this petition will lead to the answers Trista needs. mountain mama

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  43. Perhaps this has already been debated or explored in another thread and if it has can someone, other than the howler monkies, explain it to me. Phoebe told Trista there was a gun kept in the house. Neighbors heard a loud noise like a gunshot around 3 am. Has anyone other than a previous poster, mentioned this before? Was anyone checked for gunshot residue? Was there a permit for the gun? Was there even a gun?

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    1. Steve, the residue, gun and permits would have to have been done early on or collected as evidence with the 100's of pieces of evidence collected in the first 2 weeks. As for the discussion of the gun, it was discussed a few months back when it was included as a fictional gun in a fictional theory her on J4A. It was probably mentioned because of the possible drug connections. The bottom line was it was mentioned but not given alot of thought until now! The loud bang is all over the internet. If you do a simple google search you will probably get 20 - 30 quick matches.

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  44. my boy peachy baby get me in twoubleJune 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    derek--my balls are in a sling for using a fraudently obtained ssn for the purpose of obtaining life ins. my hen hag of a mother is pissig her overalls.

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  45. peachy and me in a tree committing fraud and smoking weedJune 5, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    What is identity theft?

    Identity theft occurs when someone uses your personally identifying information, like your name, Social Security number, or credit card number, without your permission, to commit fraud or other crimes

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