Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Many Great Topics of Discussion

More Food for Thought
Since we are rapidly approaching the 200 comment mark, here is another page to post more of the comments concerning the "Food for Thought" posted yesterday. Feel free to continue with the comments and additional insights.

State Farm Petition
As an update to the SF Petition from VTLady, Kit, and Wordman, it is rapidly approaching the 500 mark! Continue to tag, share, e-mail, yell to everyone that is interested to please help reach the goal of 5,000!
https://www.change.org/petitions/state-farm-life-insurance-company-investigate-the-disappearance-of-ayla-bell-reynolds#

Tristas New Interview with Chelsea Hoffman
http://www.chelseahoffman.com/2012/06/mother-of-ayla-reynolds-speaks-to.html
I found this interview very informative. The comments by Trista, though I grant you they are not direct quotes, were very informative and raised several questions in my mind. Did anyone else come up with more questions or comments they would like to share? If so please feel free to use this page for that as well!


I would like to ask that we all please refrain from discussions, questions, and comments concerning the events of last night involving another sites blog until we are able to get a bit more information. Tori will provide a further update when she is feeling up to it (hopefully she is resting comfortably in her recovery process!)! Jenn of Remember Ayla has also added a post you will want to read if you like to participate in her blog! http://rememberayla.blogspot.com/2012/06/last-word.html

Let us not forget, we are overwhelmingly better served to simply focus on Answers and Justice for Ayla!





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205 comments:

  1. Per the press conference, no one will be charged until they have Ayla. Where is Ayla? In the Kennebec? Burned on one of the many properties owned by persons of public interest?

    How can we find Ayla?

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    1. It is JMO but the way to finding Ayla, is to remove one of the children from thier mother because of charges filed against the mother. Elisha because of the drugs "used to get the babies to sleep" or Courtney for child endangerment by having her son in the house of a drug dealer, her sister. I hate saying this but until one of the mothers is in danger of losing thier child, no-one is going to speak up for Ayla! It is either this or charge them all for acting in concert and hope one of them rolls on the others! The DA or AG whoever at the conference did not seem inclined for this however!

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    2. ITA! I cannot believe that Courtney still has her son and Elisha still has her daughter. I believe that child services should become involved IMMEDIATELY when a child is missin under suspicious circumstances. You cannot honestly tell me that the house that the Dip family is living in is safe for children. It is not messy, disorganized, or cluttered. It is flat out FILTHY. There is dirt CAKED into the corners, plastic bags laying around, piles of clothes and blankets on the floor, holes in the wall, etc. I could care less if your house is messy, but when the floors look like that, there is a SERIOUS problem.

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    3. Maybe, with full intentions of doing so, LE caould approach one of them and let them know what the plan is, then they would have the option to speak and tell what they know, thereby possibly avoiding another child being separated from their family?
      Tho I know it is there own doing I would hate to see another innocent child suffer.
      I'm kind of on the fence with this one.

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    4. Something needs to be done to get one or more of them to talk. I know we all want more than anything for Ayla to be found safe somewhere, so I don't like to bring this up, but I worry about this in the back of my mind at times - if Ayla is no longer alive then the longer she's out there somewhere, the harder it may be for them to determine for sure what happened to her. The more evidence they have the worse it will be for the one(s)responsible for harming Ayla, when it comes time to seek justice.

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    5. Please keep things in perspective. The house is not filthy. It has normal wear and tear for an old house. The things laying around are normal for a household with children.

      Don't get me wrong. I think the POS father murdered his daughter for insurance money. But when you go around making outrageous claims, it cheapens the rest of the message.

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    6. I like your idea Chicky, and I am hoping the reward deadline is a precurser to this actually happening! I still think there was an alterior motive behind the reminder of the reward deadline!!! JMO though

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    7. The police did not say they would not charge anyone til they have Ayla. They said it is premature to charge now.

      It would be a terrible wrong to take babies from mothers based on rumors and it wouldn't hold up in court for good reason. The only person who can say drugs were used to get those babies to sleep is someone who saw it firsthand. Has anyone come forward and told police that? The most likely possibility seems like a Linnell, but the conflict of interest makes the Linnell family not the best choice for police to rely on.

      I agree with Mickey about the house. People making such a big deal about that are barking up the wrong tree.

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    8. Okay, are you starting fires or did you just not read all the comments anon. No-one condons removal of the children without just cause! Nowhere does anyone imply this. Would it cause Elisha or Courtney to talk IMO it would! And DHHS has every right to remove the children for suspicion of drug abuse by the parents based on the word of a Linnel! You know this as well as I do and it is thier responsibility to investigate all accusations of abuse! That is what makes thier actions with Ayla so deplorable!!! A simple drug test from Gabby can tell if the drug claims by JL are true or false. Why hasn't DHHS stepped in and done that! And tell me that the possibility of Ayden being exposed to grugs in a house with 1000 Oxys and other powdery substances is not a possibility. So would it hold up in court, who knows until DHHS steps in and does thier job?

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    9. John P, you seem on edge today. Yes I read the comments and no I am not starting fires. Taking a child from its mother is not something that should be done lightly- look what happened with Trista! I know Elisha and Courtney are viewed as "bad guys" but I don't think removal of children is the first line of protection for kids who are seemingly well cared for when their parents screw up. Your second comment about the drug test for Gabby would require due process but is not a bad idea if the drugs in question would show up this long after the fact (assuming the fact for the sake of argument.) Even if those kids were given drugs in the past, it's a good bet they aren't now because their parents are on their toes due to the Ayla investigation. With Ayden, I could see questioning Courtney and monitoring her living arrangements but the drug house is no current threat to Ayden. They've moved out. Is Courtney living with her sister anymore? Are there drugs in Courtney's current residence? Those are the questions that would be most pertinent to Ayden's safety.

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    10. Yes, I am edgy today, and I think justifiably.

      It is not about who is the good guy and who is the bad. It was a response to the question "How do we find Ayla?" And three of us stated that we did not like the idea but it would probably make the mothers take honestly with LE! You say this could not be done without due process, a simple complaint from the father should be due process for dhhs to step in for child abuse. That is there job, that is thier responsibility to the children! And hair test for drugs remain viable much longer than blood or urine testing and is non-invasive. It may cost more but it provides a rapid solution to an accusation. So yes I think DHHS would be justified in doing so, even on the word of a Linnel! I do agree with Ayden no longer being a threat, but why was Courtney not relieved of responsibility of Ayden immediately when the house was locked down by LE? Just saying.

      The big problem I have with this is not something to be taken lightly!

      This has been ongoing for 5.5 months! The two mothers have not been forthcoming with LE for this entire time! There have been and still are reasons for DHHS to step in and remove one or the other child. How much more consideration need be afforded. None of this has been taken lightly except the approach of these two mothers in trying to find Ayla!!!!!!!

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    11. John...sadly, children live in cars or under bridges with their homeless parents. DHHS cannot just sweep in and seperate children from parents due to a lousy economy and a cascade of foreclosures. There has to be concrete findings of abuse or neglect to remove a child from the home.

      It is not reasonable to threaten to remove a child to get these liars talking.

      I don't like it either, John. Not one little bit. But LE hasn't even named a person of interest in this case.

      I appreciate your frustration, but removing children because their mothers are not talking won't fly.

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    12. I think that everyone is stating their opinions and how they feel about the conditions of the house, whesther the other children are safe or not, what should or should not be done about it, commenting on others ideas and thoughts, in general a disscusion that I see nothing wrong with.
      The idea being mentioned of removing one or the other or both children from their mothers to make them talk ( or for the childrens welfare) is a subject that is bound to bring up alot of emotion. No one wants to see other children suffer neddlessly whether it is by remaining with the others or being taken away. This is not something to take lightly so emotions run high.

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    13. McKeekitty, My comments above i want to clarify. IF LE or DHHS feel there is just cause to question wheather or not the children shuld be removed, and they are basing this on what they know at this point, letting the mothers know what the plan is, they may talk at that point and tell what they know to avoid the children being taken.
      I did not mean that they use this as a threat to make them talk, or take the children to make them talk, but only IF they decide they ARE going to remove either child that the mothers are given an opportunity to talk before the children are whisked away thereby possibly saving trauma to the children.

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    14. "There has to be concrete findings of abuse or neglect to remove a child from the home."

      I do not want to sound disrespectful McKee, but this is exactly my point! I thought that when a child is "aided" in sleeping by blowing pot in thier faces was a claim that was to be investigated first then dismissed. Not the other way around. When those many drugs are found in an apartment with a child, I thought LE was to call for CPS to remove the child then return the child when the parent is found not to be involved, not the other way around. Again this way of doing things is giving the rights to the abuser and taking them away from the children.

      Do not get me wrong McKee, I know a couple right now that loves and cherishes thier children and are living in an RV in a backyard of a person I visit regularly. The love and support they show as parents does not warrent the children being removed for being foreclosed upon. There is a major difference between the families in my eyes. I always thought DHHS was suppose to protect the children first and then reunite the family when there is no longer a threat. What you are explaining to me is that DHHS is nothing more than a pawn of the courts after the courts find a person to be unsatisfactory as a parent! Where is the protection of the children????

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    15. This may be a sore subject but in Maine, and not sure about other states, there have been many situations where DHHS have removed children from their homes needlessly, before getting any evidence and based soleley on rumor. These families have been hurt badly while waiting for months to be reunited.
      Saying that, if there is an inkling that drugs may be used on children, take the mother and child together for the testing.
      I have alot of concern for any of the children being in the company of justin in particular and that could easily be solved by telling him to stay away untill this case is solved.

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    16. Forever Curious (prev posting anon out of sheer laziness)June 6, 2012 at 2:41 PM

      John P. I think it's a question of the nature of the harm and the degree of harm. DHS usually tries to work with the parents instead of taking a child away when there's a problem. For example, assuming the drug allegations are true, they could make sure the parents are informed of the dangers of kids being drugged (which are diff. from dangers to their own bodies) and make it crystal clear that drug tests will be periodically performed on the kids until they are confident drugs aren't being used anymore. They could address with them whether as single parents they need some sort of support services to give them regular time away from the babies. And other stuff like that.

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    17. Goodness! You are not being disrespectful in the least, John! We're just discussing this issue.

      First, I was unaware of weed being blown in the face of one of the children as a sleeping aid. Can you kindly direct me to that post/article/assertion/admission? Scratch that...I see it came from a Linnell. Did Linnell call DHHS about the incident? I didn't know the Linnells were allowed contact with Elisha or Gabbie due to Justin's Linnell's threat to "slit the throats" of Elisha and Phoebe. But I may not up to speed on the current status of the restraining order.

      Second, we don't that DHHS ISN'T investigating the welfare of Ayden and Gabbie. There may very well be welfare checks in place. Such information is not publicly broadcasted due to the sensitive and confidential nature of such matters.

      Third...I didn't write the laws, John. I have stated numerous times here that if Child Protective Services were my domain, it would be very different. I would remove children first and ask questions later.

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    18. FC I love the alias. LOL I think you are right about the nature of the harm and the love shown by the parents. Chicky has an absolute perfect solution to all the concern we may have for the children. Let DHHS take the mother and child together to ensure there is no invasion of privacy and no drug abuse against the children. If there is not everyone goes home, if there is the child is protected and the mother is charged! PERFECT SAFETY AND PROTECTION FOR THE CHILDREN! Speak up sooner Chicky! LOL :)

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    19. McKee, that is correct, JL stated he knew they did this from when he was allowed in the house. For knowing and not reporting, he should be charged as well!!!

      And you are absolutely right about the other two points. We do not know if the investigation does not include DHHS and the mothers. And if the law is to protect the abusers rights first then the children, I nominate you to the next available seat so you can change the orders to protect the children first!

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    20. And who can say whether it's the pot calling the kettle black with Linnell throwing out those accusations?

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    21. Excellent point, Forever Curious. I believe Trista was told by DHHS to get sober or risk losing her children. I believe DHHS's objective is to try to keep families together if that is even remotely possible. And that objective may very well require the temporary removal of children.

      I appreciate the frustrations expressed by John, Kit and PB on this matter. I may be naive, but I believe LE would alert DHHS if they suspected the other children in the home are in danger.

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    22. Sorry I was not quicker John but I was making an ice cream float for lunch ! I do that when I get stressed at times ! :-)

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    23. I agree, Curious. Not sure about Linnell. If he was so concerned about the weed incident, he should have called the appropriate agency.

      And not to put you on the spot, John, but if you saw Linnell's post and thought it had legs, why not forward it to DHHS for review and possible investigation? I'm not trying to sound snarky...I'm just curious.

      Anyway, you couldn't be disrespectful if you tried, John. Your heart is clearly in the right place. We may agree to disagree on some of the finer points, but not on the big issue of getting justice for Ayla.

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    24. I agree that we do not know if DHHS in involved with the Elisha and Courtney or not. I doubt they would come right out and tell the media if they were. I just hope that a case worker is keeping a close eye on the children. There is NO way that DHHS does not know about this case and the children in Justin's life. It's not like someone in their lives are being accuse of slapping them once or yelling at them- someone in that house (mosy likely) murdered Ayla.
      One thing that I do know for sure, is if anything happens to Ayden or Gabby right now, someone at DHHS is not going to stop hearing from me until policies change. I pray every day for Ayla, Gabby and Ayden!

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    25. McKee, you are not placing me on a spot at all. IRT the Linnell statement, LE is fully aware of the comments. Trista was given the ultimatum in regards to a dispute between Trista and Jessica. Yet the Roberts arrest, the accusations of drugs and Elisha and Courtney have thier kids. I say this not to compare apples and oranges. The doulble standard is what makes me believe the tie into DHHS has to exist. If DHHS can give Trista the ultimatum, why wasn't Elisha given an ultimateum to go get Gabby tested or risk the same. Why wasn't Courtney given an ultimatum to keep Ayden away from the drugs or risk the same? Someone is or was pulling strings to get DHHS to do what they did to Trista and no-one is currently protecting Gabby and Ayden! JMO

      Thank you for not feeling I am disrespecting you. I am glad you realize I am concerned for the children and I can't wrap my head around DHHS procedures as you explained them. I am glad that this is not the case here!

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    26. If it is true that "weed being blown in the face of one of the children as a sleeping aid", that is just so horrible.

      If anyone knows of this happening to any child, they should report it. If it is suspected a hair test can be done to prove it. The drug stays in the hair and it can show if the drug was truly breathed in by the child.

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    27. I want to say it was stated in reply to the accusations from Elisha so I do not know the veracity of the statement, but it makes me fearful for the children!

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    28. I thought Linnell stated that Elisha & Co. would give the babies cough meds, etc to get them to sleep? I didn't hear about the pot. Maybe they did both; or just threw them down the stairs to really keep them quiet!

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    29. THC can not be detected in the blood or any other way if weed is being blown into their faces. The kids would have to be puffing off of a pipe or jipe in order to get stoned and for the THC to show up. Plus they would just get a slap on the back of the hand. Weed isn't a big offense in most states as long as it isn't being sold or an attempt to deliver.

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    30. The children don't have to be involved at all. They need to arrest them for obstructing justice, interfering with an investigation... whatever they want to call it. For LE to go public with their determination that the three adults in that home are with-holding information about what has happened to Ayla but then to not DO SOMETHING about it is a crying shame. A crying shame.

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  2. Phoebe, who are the people keeping watch over your house? Why are they keeping watch over your house? Where were they the night Ayla disappeared? Where were they when your windows were broken?

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  3. There was a comment on the original Food for Thought

    Anonymous June 5, 2012 11:47 PM
    Maybe Justin didn't know about the official filing. But did Trista talk to someone at DSHS about not being able to see or get Ayla back? Was she told by someone there to file?

    This caught my eye because after the interview the first thing I thought about was if Justin was told by Trista during the talk they had on the 15th via phone. Could it have slipped or a subtle comment be percieved by Justin she had already filed papers. Or wer the ties to DHHS responsible for word getting back to Justin. I just find it too coincidental that the paperwork is filed the 15th and the 17th Ayla is reported missing!

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    1. Agreed! I've always thought the filing forced his hand.

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    2. Actually, I felt the same way, that when he figured out or found out what was being done, it triggered the rage that caused him to harm Ayla!

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    3. When are the blogs migrating to the wordpress blogs?

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    4. John, I think it to coincidental that the papers were filed shortly before the the disappearance. PD and JD were with KS when she picked up Ayla in Lewiston. I believe that has been a documented fact in this case already. I would think that if the paperwork was filed that someone in DHHS is notified of a pending custody case, in this case KS. Seeing that she is friends with PD or perhaps that tie is more than just friendship as has been previously stated, it would be a logical conclusion that she would notify the parties in question which would for all practical purposes, make her an accomplice. My opinion is that she should at the very least lose her job for abuse of power and improper representation of a state and or court official. After all, there was no court document giving custody to JD, it was only her statement. In a perfect world what should happen is she is tried as an accomplice to whaatever charges are finally levied against those who commited this crime.

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    5. I missed that comment but it raises a possibility I hadn't considered before. I had posted questioning how Justin would have known Trista filed on the 15th since she said she didn't tell him and I couldn't rationalize how DHHS would have known she filed. That someone at DHHS told her to, or if she told someone there she did, could explain how Justin got word.

      I'm still more inclined to think that even if she didn't tell Justin directly she insinuated it either right before or after.

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    6. Ruby, Jeff, Tori, JMH, Jenn and all the others are working behind the scenes as we speak. There are obvious concerns that are being worked on almost around the clock. I am sure that Tori or JMH may be able to provide a better timeline but I just know they are working on it now with more to follow.

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    7. Steve, your logic is exact, very clear and very close to mine (if you call my thinking logical, lol)! The only difference is I felt the charge at trial should be facilitation, not neccessarily accessory!

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    8. John, by definition facilitation is broadly used to describe any activity which makes tasks for others easy, or tasks that are assisted. The reason I chose accomplice is because of the law definition - an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense. Given that definition, KS knowingly removed Ayla from JR's custody without a proper court order which was needed and handed her over to a questionable party without proper background checks. This would be the act of an accomplice, not a facilitator.

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    9. I think I misunderstood your original comment Steve. I agree she was an accomplice in obtaining Ayla illegally from lewiston. She facilitated the harm imposed in Waterville. Two seperate charges. I apologize!

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    10. No apology needed John. I was going for one charge, but I like the idea of using 2 charges against her. Gives the jury more room to convict.

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    11. KS did not physically participate in the removal of Ayla FYI. Just want to keep the facts straight here. It was Lewiston police accompanied by DiPietros acting with knowledge/under authority of ? DHHS.

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    12. Anon 11:44, "dad trumps aunt" this does not ring a bell for you? It does for me! When DHHS makes this assumption and the police enforce it, how is this not involvement. You can play the card of the definition of "physically" but if they (KS) cause a LEO to physically remove Ayla, then her act was a contribution to the physical act! Either way, your word play has no fruition!

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    13. John P, it's not word play. It's an effort to stick to the facts. I agree there's involvement by DHS. But Anon 10:41 posted, "PD and JD were with KS when she picked up Ayla in Lewiston." That is not accurate. KS was not at Jessica's apt. picking up Ayla. That was my point.

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    14. I simply responded to your words where the emphasis was implied to be over the "physically". You are right that she did not physically take Ayla as anon mistakeningly wrote, but if you had simply said, Karen was there but she didn't take Ayla, I would not have had anything to say! I apologize for misreading your comments!

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    15. No need for you to apologize John, that was an oversight on my part. I should have read what I wrote a little closer before posting it. Thank you Anon 12:06 for pointing that out.

      Steve

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  4. Does anyone know what Justin does these days? Is he living on his own, is he CDLing? If he's not working what does he do all day?

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  5. This was posted on the Food for Thought Post

    Anonymous June 6, 2012 10:37 AM
    Robyn Small
    Elegibility Rep at State of Maine

    Location
    Lewiston/Auburn, Maine Area
    Industry
    Government Administration
    source linkedin

    I see this and I immediately start wondering if this has any ties to Karen Small being involved with removing Ayla from Jessicas and Beccas care while in Lewiston? Dam I hate coincidents!!!

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  6. IMO, it was not him learning of the filing by Trista that caused him to harm Ayla... i believe he had already done harm to Ayla at that point. I think him learning of the filing by Trista is why the 911 call. Time was no longer on his side.

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    1. I agree loulou

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    2. That is a distinct possibility LouLou! I just can not imagine a person could have a heart so cold to have done something like this and still gone out partying and playing the evening of hte 15th. It is just so hard to phathom the type of sole a person has that could do that?

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    3. Casey Anthony did this for a whole month. Remember the pics of her dancing the night away with friends and boyfriend at the night club? Smiling with a HUGE ass smile! And got a tattoo to boot! Heartless! So I can imagine that anothe person can be just as heartless!!

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    4. Very good point Ruby! Maybe it is just my thought process that makes it so hard for me to believe. I could not and will not ever imagine myself capable of doing that!

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    5. John, Look at how long Casey Anthony was able to go out partying and playing, it is apparent that we are not dealing with anyone rational in any sense, which makes it hard for those of us who think logically to fathom how it could be done.

      On another note... I really like this blog and have been following it for months , but the past 48 hours have been crazy to say the least.. my question is how is any of Tori's personal business or Jenn's or Grace or anyone else blogging for that matter relevant to "finding " Ayla ? It seems that the blogs have come to be a "pissing match" for lack of a better word between "camps" and less about the real reason everyone visits any of the blogs AYLA REYNOLDS...

      Sorry just my 2 cents .... I just wish this could get back on track - because of all the blogs, I find this to be the most informative ... thanks ... Following from Boston !

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    6. Anon 11:20, the events of the past 48-72 hours have been very distracting to finding Justice for Ayla! This is why I posted above that I would prefer to hold off discussing those events until more information is know. There is a merger taking place of J4A and A4A and hopefully this merger will eliminate the distractions we have encountered the past few days. Thank you for your comments though, they are appreciated and I hope we can continue the informative work you have come to expect from us! We will definately try to meet your expectations! :)

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    7. thanks John :-) .. Following from Boston

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  7. From the other blog post someone asked about family tree/geneology. There is a free website called Family Echo. It might be able to be used to link family members and see connections. But it's harder to link family trees when there is alot of "non-traditional" families. Multiple children with different parents. Divorce and re-marry.

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  8. If a gun was involved, I have to think it was an accident, unless Courtney's responsible.I know Justin is capable, but my heart won't let me go there. DAMN !!! now I'm crying again. mountain mama

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    1. My heart has been crying for 5 months now Mountain Mama! I hate thinking any of this is possible! I am devastated each day with what we learn happening!

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  9. I'm working on something with the tree

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    1. I think a who is who tree would be awesome!

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    2. I dabble in family trees ruby. Let me know if I can be of help.

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  10. Robyn L Small , age 41
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  11. names/alias
    Selena L Johnson
    Selina L Johnson
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    Selena L Dipietro

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  12. I was just doing some googling and clicked a link to a post on this site only to find the post wasn't there anymore. So I looked at a cached version of it from 5/12/12. It was a February post about Justin being seen on camera in Portland early on the 15th.

    But then I compared the cached site from May 12th to today and there are over 30 posts from Feb-April that are no longer up. What's up with that? Does it have to do with the move to wordpress?

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    1. Real quick response, I believe it is more dealing with a previous admin deleting many comments and posts before thier departure from the site. I would prefer to leave it at this if you don't mind Anon. If you have more questions, please e-mail JMH or J4A for more information!

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    2. All hypothetical: There are internet rumors that DHS was involved in getting children removed from another Reynolds family member and getting them adopted out. KS' sister was in charge of permanence for DHS. Getting kids adopted out has a benefit for the agency vis-a-vis the feds, right?

      When Trista's case came to light, was this an opportunity to adopt out another kid? Maybe it wasn't the DiPietros but a DHS employee who is the real force behind the Ayla grab. Or maybe KS is friends with the Tudelas and somehow the idea of lighting a fire under Justin with the idea that Ayla would eventually be adopted out was concocted by them together?

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    3. That would explain why Justin thought someone would take Ayla. If they were threatening in any way.

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  13. Brittany Merrill britanny m, the pic on grace4ayla/grace wilsons blogger profile, her daughter
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    1. Anon,

      This is the last comment that I can approve related to the events of the past 48-72 hours. I encourage Megan to not approved any other comments either relating to these events. I prefer to wait until we know more about the merger and thus allow us to put all of it behind us and focus on Justice and Answers for Ayla!!!

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  14. I signed the petition!! And I have reposted for more signatures!!

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  15. I wouldnt trust Jen. She is going to be the next one to "lose it." I smell another set-up.

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    1. I agree, it's not a good idea to put too much trust into people who do not post under their real names. Once a lie is told, how can you trust anything that is said? Is her name Jen? Is she in So. Cal.? When I went to her blog is said .ca (.ca is the country code for canada). I'm not saying that "Jenn" isn't trustworthy, but I doubt her name is Jenn and you can see what happens from there. If someone is going to post anonymous, don't give a fake name. Just say you don't want to say who you are and leave it at that. JMO

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    2. Jenn doubter. I understand your opinion and you are entitled to that opinion. I will say, not to try to change your mind, her name is Jenn (I will not post her whole name though she did herself on her blog several times) and she is or was from outside the US! I am sorry for the vagueness, but you understand the need for some privacy at this time. I would only ask you give her a chance as I have when the merger is completed by Jeff. He has invited her to post on the merged site.

      Bride, I can only hope that what happened previously with the previous admin does not happen to any human being again.

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    3. John P!, Please don't misunderstand. I have absolutely no interest in knowing who anyone is in the blog world. All I am saying is people should not give a name, just to give a name is they aren't telling the truth. Whether it is Grace, Jenn, me or you. If a person wants to be anonymous and not have a name, don't give one. Definitely don't give a fake one, because eventually fake names are found out and it make everything the person ever said in doubt.

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    4. Thank you JD! That is why I mentioned Jenn is using her real name. All the admins on this blog have used thier real names except for one. That admin is unfortunately (or furtunately) no longer with us.

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    5. Considering I posted my departure post and mentioned that I would no longer be blogging about Grace or Charla I'd have to say that you're wrong Bride. :)

      And no, Jenn isn't my real name. I don't have to post under my real name and I will never make that mistake. I'd rather not have people harass and stalk me like they have with Tori. Jenndoubter, you are obviously Grace/Elizabeth.

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    6. No I am not Grace/Elizabeth. The IP tracker will tell who I am and it's not them.

      If your name isn't Jenn, than all I'm saying is you should have stayed anonymous with no name given. Why give people a name if it isn't real, when there is no obligation to give any name?

      Saying you ARE Jenn from SO. CAL. when you are not, only makes you appear to be a liar when the truth comes out. Wouldn't it be better to just say, you can call me Jenn, it's not my real name, but that is what you can call me. At least that is HONEST! Just sayin!

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    7. Obscure Sucks/Jenn, Tori knows who I am and she can vouch for the fact I am NOT Grace/Elizabeth or JSTL. She won't say who I am, but she can say I am not those people. Thank you.

      There is no offense meant in my post, other than advice. It's not good to lie to people. That's all.

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    8. Well now, this is an interesting turn of events if I do say so myself. Um, hopefully megan or JMH will be able to moderate for a while. I am going to log out and go to rehab! Working with the 60's! :)

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    9. John, I only saw that Jenn posted her name as Jenn on her blog, not her full name. As well as that she's a student and she's in So. California.

      Then this week we learn she's not even the US

      And now she is saying her name isn't even Jenn?

      I'm with the doubters. Why should Jeff or Tori trust ANYONE at this point, especially someone who just got involved fairly recently and is across the country (or in a different country).

      Early on when she started her blog I asked her why she started it and who she is. She said she had heard or read about the case, started looking into it and was disgusted by JSTL so started her own blog. That seems such a convenient answer to the question. But how many people who've followed from the start feel the same way and didn't start a blog?

      It's fishy I tell ya.

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    10. Jenn, I'm not so sure throwing an accusation back that the poster is grace or whoever is going to help.

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    11. So, John was under the assumption that Jenn was your real name but it's not? Now I am getting VERY confused?

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    12. My real name is not Chicky.

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    13. Oh, I do see now where she posted her "full name" on the welcome post on rememberingayla blog.

      But still, for her to pop on here and say that Jenn isn't her real name, for us to have been misled about where she's from, and for her to accuse a poster of being Grace?

      I urge caution.

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    14. I think a lot of things in the last week don't make sense. And I agree something is very fishy!

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    15. Months ago, I commented using the Anon title, because I was not familiar with techy-blog crap. I'm learning as I go, though.

      How does anyone know if they can trust any other person? Trial and error - learn from your mistakes, and move on in a positive direction. If you barricade yourself, then you'll live a sheltered life and quite likely miss out on meeting a gem of a person.

      With that being said, admittingly it is a free-for-all when using the internet. It is wise to be cautious! I use an accurate screen name, because it describes who I am and it's easily recognized when scrolling through the comments. Besides, it's better than the nickname my mother gave me: Ms. Glamourpuss :P

      I think the vast majority of visitors/readers/commenters have noticed and commented on the confusion of so many Anon posters. Here's an idea! Pick a number! At least we can respond easily and directly to you, without you revealing anything personal. How about those apples?

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    16. Given the wrong name and wrong town may or maynot be a sign of distrust. Although I have signed my real name in emails for the guest posts- my name is not Purple Butterflies and I am not living in Brewer as I have posted before. (close, but not Brewer) But, I do find her making up a story about being in California instead of Canada a little hinky and I do understand the concern that doubter has. No offence Jenn.

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    17. Chicky, I am sorry that this confused you. The intent was to have JSTL/Grace/Elizabeth/Obscure/Whoever believe her name was Jenn until we could complete the merger. Sorry, I hated to mislead even in the effort to help protect Jenns identity. I feel terrible for misleading you all, I hope you can forgive my efforts?

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    18. Oh, so the merger has been planned since March/April when "Jenn" started her blog and posted her name was Jenn and she's from SoCal? And the whole thing has been intended to mislead everyone who reads all the blogs until the merger was complete? Then what happens?

      Thanks for adding another tangle to the web.

      This is bullshit quite frankly and makes THIS blog look shady now.

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    19. John P!, I think to intentionally mislead, as in wanting the other blogger to believe her name was Jenn, puts people in the same category as the offenders. What can the readers believe as truth? I still believe that if Jenn wanted to use the name, but it wasn't real, she could have just said, "call me Jenn, but it's not my real name". People are pretty smart and they don't like to be fooled or lied to. That is why the idea of people lying about who they are or digging into investigations is not very popular. The real truth is, we (most readers) do not care what your real name is, but we care if you lie to us. Don't tell us your name is Jenn (like we are stupid children), tell us it's just a name you are using (like we are adults). I think that it was not a smart move, even if it was only intended to fool Grace/Elizabeth or whatever her real name is. Everyone has become too caught up in the name game and what we really all want is just TRUTH. You can tell me you want to remain anonymous and I can respect that, but just be honest. I would expect that most people want to remain anonymous (I know I do) because of the crazies out there. But bloggers should not treat their readers like they are the crazy ones. Just my take on it.

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    20. Anon 6:27, no where did I say what you are implying. Nothing in my comments says anything about March or April, NOTHING! That is all your own interpretation but from where I do not know.

      I will tell you that I can only apologize for not knowing before this started that Jenn was not Jenns real name. If I have taken away from the credibility of this blog then post a comment to Tori and Jeff asking them to remove me as an admin and I will support your request. The past 48 hours have been hard on us all and I made a bad call when I found out less then 72 hours ago that Jenns name was not Jenn! I had a choice and made the wrong one for the right reason. I apologize again but that is all I can do! Most people know and understand why I continued calling her Jenn for the past 72 hours!

      JD

      As you can see, I found out less than 72 hours ago as well. But I make the same apology to you. In the past 72 hours I have misled you the people to protect the privacy of another. For that I am sorry!

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    21. I think the important things is that most people don't care who the other people are. Just good theories, good conversation and truthful communications.

      John P. you have done a great job. No one can hold you responsible for what you didn't know.

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    22. Thank You Anon Y Mouse. I will try to do better if given a choice in the future!

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    23. John-I've read your posts for months now and I believe you are a very good, kind, generous, and honest man. I know you are trying to do and say the right thing. But brother, I have to tell you, you're getting caught up in a bunch of bs and frankly, I think you're better than that. Pray on it.

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    24. Iagree and I have been for 2 days, each time I typed the incorrect name and clicked on publish.

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    25. John, it's not just what you said about Jenn being her real name that takes the credibility away from this blog, it's that this blog is standing behind someone who has lied about her name in stating it, lied about where she lives and not been called out on any of it like all the other liars have. So if she's been lying about those things since the day she started her blog, why should we trust her and why should we trust anyone at J4A for saying we should trust this liar? And more importantly, why would Tori or Jeff trust her unless they are her or know precisely who she is?

      So it seems she's not some random person with no connection to the case that took an interest and this is all a ruse of some sort? That really sucks for the people who care about Ayla and have supported Tori on this blog and Jeff as well.

      Most people know and understand why we've been lied to? Not just by you but by "Jenn" and Tori as well? I disagree. I don't understand and all I know is that during a crazy time instead of clearing the air J4A has chosen to further muddy the waters.

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    26. hey john, I don't think you were trying to mislead in any way. People are just unsure of Jenn at this point and would have felt more comfortable if on her other blogs she was forthcoming that her screen name was jenn and not her real name. I certainly understand anyone who wants to remain annon. I for one fully believed that was her real name.

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    27. Thank You Chicky, I wish I had known this before all this started so I could have just stayed clear from it all. I thank you again Chicky for supporting my choice.

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    28. Anon I removed your comment when I saw the second half. It was not Tori or Jeff or anyone else that asked me to say what I said, not even Jenn. Do not blame them for what I said. Blame me, I said it and I take responsibility for what I say. If you blame Jenn for starting the wrong name on her blog, then blame her for that, she is a big girl. Tori and Jeff are blameless for my actions!

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    29. The lesson is it is always best to be honest. People have been using screen names since the internet began. People expect that. There are enough phonies out there. What most readers want is the truth. Tell us a fake name is your screen name. It's ok. This is Jenn's mess and she owes people an apology for not being truthful (IMO). An apology will go along way if indeed she did not intend to mislead. I'm repeating what others have said, but I just think those kind of things are important.

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    30. I have been wanting, at some point, for posters to try and come up with ideas of where Ayla may be hidden and it set up, with permission from LE, to do some searches, with proper training. I have allways encouraged people to search their own properties but I am not sure if the public has done enugh of this. Maybe news stations announcing this again along with a rep from LE giving a short rundown as to what to do if they find something they feel may be evidence.
      Maybe this is something that could be discussed after the merge and I think it is important to keep the ball rolling in this area. LE, I am sure would welcome a call asking their advice on this.

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    31. Anon Y Mouse, thank you for your advice. I will take it into account. I think I am learning a lesson because I have used my real name from the beginning and I thought it was the norm, not the other way around. Names like Chicky, Anon Y Mouse, you know are Aliases but when people put a name like Mike, Jennifer, Peter Paul and Mary, I assumed they were the real names of the people. I am too naive I guess, or is the word gullible!

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    32. Chicky, I drove up the Maine turnpike from Portland to Lewiston the other day. While riding as a passenger I made a conscience effort to look on the sides of the highway. After a short while I realized just how much woods are within a few feet from the edge of the highway. As I looked into the wooded areas, I wondered if a vehicle was to pull over in the night (the road is pretty quiet at night time) and went a short way into the wooded area to place a body, how long would it before someone found it? These wooded sections along the turnpike are probably not walked much by anyone. Yes the TP Authority mows the immediate area along the roadway, but really how far in do they go? I saw many areas where a small body could be deposited and not found for YEARS. Maine has many, many areas like that (unfortunately).

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    33. Why are all of you so concerned what my real name is? So you can harass, stalk and threaten me/my family like what has happened with Tori? No, thanks. If you can't figure out why I went by a fake name then quite frankly, you're stupid. And if that makes me untrustworthy well, I don't really care.

      I have made my intentions quite clear from the beginning. I have been around for quite some time now and I will be contributing to Jeff's blog in a positive manner. If that doesn't make me trustworthy then I don't know what will.

      Furthermore, I will be posting by my real name at Jeff's blog, so any of you who have a problem with the fake name thing can just get over it.

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    34. John P! Perhaps the word is innocent. :) But naive will do. I've been on the internet too many years and actually using one's real name is fairly new. I think it's better to use a screen name.

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    35. Furthermore, if I am untrustworthy for lying about my name then all of you posting under anonymous or a nickname are untrustworthy as well. G'day.

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    36. You're fine John, emotional and confusing days lately. Take a deep breath, don't be to hard on yourself. ~ Sally (not really) :-)

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    37. I apologize if I am coming across as being rude but I really feel like I am being attacked here when all I was trying to do was ensure that I am safe. However, I have addressed your concerns in my most recent blog entry. http://rememberayla.blogspot.com

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    38. Thanks Mouse and Sally, er I mean Chicky! :-)

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    39. Obscure Sucks, we know why you went with a fake name, what we don't understand is why you made out like it was your real name. You obviously are being very defensive. There is no need for being defensive if nothing misleading was meant. No one wants to know your real name, no one wants to stalk you. The only reason for any of this is that we do not like being lied to and what you did was lie. On your new blog you stated your name is Jennifer Rhodes, now you tell us your name is NOT even Jenn. Why go to so much trouble to make people believe your fake name is real? We don't need ANY name.

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    40. Obscure sucks... I have no intentions of harrassing anyone neither am I stupid.
      My opinion is, I would not want to use my real name so I would pick a name but let others know that it's not my real name.
      I AM trustworthy, just because I do not use my real name everyone knows my real name is not Chicky.
      I tried to change the subject here back to Ayla but I guess it did not work so i think I will retire for the night.
      I hope everyone has a peacfull night.

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    41. MOUSE ~ I agree there is so much territory to cover so all the more reason to work with LE to help cover as many areas as possible.

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    42. "Furthermore, if I am untrustworthy for lying about my name then all of you posting under anonymous or a nickname are untrustworthy as well. G'day."

      None of us have claimed that our screen name is our real name.

      You are being argumentative for no reason. What you could do from all this is humble yourself a bit and admit it was a mistake to try to mislead us about your name. Your defensive nature is only causing you more issues. Frankly, just because Jeff or Tori have you on their blog does not mean we can automatically trust you (or anyone). People learn about you by what you say and post. I'm learning that you are young and not used to dealing with people who disagree with you. If you are going to put yourself out there, you have to be prepared to take criticism and you should also be ready to admit when you are wrong. That is how you gain respect and trust. You will learn.

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    43. This thread is beginning to read like a bad case of deja vu.

      Obscure Sucks...the very instant you accused JennDoubter of being Grace/Elizabeth, the hair on my neck went up. I found your blogs (both of them, before your JSTL was hijacked) very clever and witty.

      You trusted Grace, and gave her access to your blog. That didn't turn out so good for you. What's the expression...once burned, twice shy? So why do you have a problem with folks warning John P to be cautious and perhaps not so trusting?

      I agree with the previous poster that this is all bullshit and hurting the mission to seek justice for Ayla.

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    44. Chicky- I did not forget about the invitation to get together and search. I have been a little busy on weekends with spring chores. If you are still interested- Tori now has my email from my guest submissions. Let me know. Sundays work better - We have family dinners with mom on Saturday since her cancer came back. I agree with Anon Y Mouse and have commented about the same thing- there is a lot of places just along 95 and not to mention the park and rides there too. Let me know, ok. Also some of the Angels are still searching on the weekend too, I think, maybe we all can get together.

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    45. Thank you all for supporting the commenters and posters of J4A. I apologize one last time and I promise my actions will not happen again.

      Special thanks to Chicky and PB and Mouse for trying to get the subject back on Ayla. Our readers here are highly intlligent and focused on Ayla so I will not comment on this anymore. Thank you again.

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    46. Obscuresucks. . .it is one thing to post under anon or an obvious screen name. It is quite another to claim to be someone you are not.

      I fully understand why you would do it. But it does nothing for your credibility to try and be deceitful about it. Why lie when you can just choose to be anonymous?

      You can understand why posters are doubtful about trusting you. You were apparently late to the case, but have quickly earned the trust of the bloggers, even though they claim not to know you or where you are from. So yeah, that smells hinky. I have a good idea of who you really are, and not that it matters, but it was a bad choice to not just post anonymously instead of pretending to be "Jenn" from "So Cal." It hurt your credibility, unfortunately.

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    47. PB.. wonderfull !! I to have been wrapped up a bit more lately. I have searched a few more times but alone and I am NOT comfortable with it. I have one area that I would like to do so we can discuss it along with others. I'm pretty agreeable. I have a few health issues I need to address but I certainly can do a Sunday other than fathers day which is my grandsons Birthday. Hey, thank you!! I love getting a positve response and that you are ready to roll !

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    48. Why don't you all get on a chat sight to discuss who's who and where you're all from. This is so ridiculous, over half of these comments has nothing to do with Ayla, you know, the beautiful little girl that is missing, or have you all forgotten.

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    49. Anon 9:17 PM, I probably shouldn't point out the fact that your comment regarding our comments isn't about Ayla, either. :)

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    50. No one has forgotten about Ayla. But it's important to consider the source and when people are pretending to be people they are not, then the waters get muddied. Personally, I think "Jenn" was a bad idea and should be retired, so we can all get back to Ayla and not continue the charade.

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    51. For those of you who would like to help do searches, I am hoping to see a post concerning this soon and hopefully work something out to aid LE and the forestry service in finding Ayla and bringing her home.

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  16. In so many of these missing children cases the possibility is often brought up of there being an accident and maybe the parents, or whoever was taking care of the child - panicked.

    I'm not saying this can't or hasn't ever happened, but it makes me just as angry, to the point where I believe in a case like that they shouldn't be able to use an accident claim as a defense. Suppose a child were injuried and whoever is with him/her WRONGLY assumes there's no chance of saving or reviving the child, and instead of seeking help they hide or "dispose" of the child, when he/she could have actually been saved had medical help been sought out immediately. Not to mention, what kind of person would think of trying to save their own ass when their child, or any child, or any person period, has been hurt in an accident? Take Casey Anthony's claims that Caylee drowned, not that I believe it, still..I think, or at least I'd like to think, if most people (including George Anthony) were to find a child in a pool they'd call 911, no matter what the child's condition appeared to be. A drowning victim being rescusitated by rescure workers is not unheard of, and it's not impossible for this to happen with other injuries too.

    A real parent would do whatever they could to save their child, they'd move the heavens and earth to save them, they would never think "Oh shit, I'm going to be in trouble, I better get rid of the body". A real parent would never dispose of their child as if they were nothing more than garbage, either. Nor do I believe any decent person would do this to another human being, period.

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  17. I took a few days off from the blogs and all I can say is, wow. I mean really! What the hell happened? WHY is this happening? I can't get my head around it. I thought Grace was on *our* side -- meaning the side that is seeking to bring justice on behalf of Ayla, FOR Ayla?! Child advocacy. Bottom line.

    I'm sorry that Tori's name, blog, mission has been besmirched. I had a soft-spot for Grace and while many disagreed with her astrology posts, I sort of liked them (save her editorial which I thought crossed the line at times).

    I can't help but feel that Grace may have been JSTL/pink blog all along. Hence the obsession. The goal being to infiltrate this site -- seek and destroy -- whereby gaining the trust of all Tori's loyal followers and then flipping the script. Her tone over at the *other* JSTL now has the exact same language, tenor and style as the original JSTL/pink blog. I think they are one and the same person.

    Bottom line is that she/them is/are detracting from Ayla's case. Not coincidentally everything got out of hand at the EXACT same time that MSP made their announcement that they believe poor Ayla is no longer alive.

    Heavy heart for Ayla. Had to share my thoughts -- sorry to keep bringing this up, but, as an avid J4A reader, I'm still blown away.

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    1. Welcome back Quincy's Mom! It is good to take a refresher every now and then. We are glad to see you back though!

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    2. I'm absolutely sure that "Grace" was pinkblog all along and only used Tori's trusting nature to get on the J4A blog and try to damage Tori and her reputation. There is no sacred ground when it comes to JSTL/Grace or anyone at the pinkblog. "Grace" stealing a blog that does not belong to her speaks for her moral standards. And JSTL embracing "Grace" speaks for JSTL's moral standard. Neither set their own bars very high. They will use anyone and anything to taint people against Trista and family. They do not get much sicker than those at the pinkblog. "Grace" fits in nicely there because it is always where she belonged. What you see now is the real "Grace", what we saw when she was acting kind, was the pretense.

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    3. Anon 1:40, I posted all comments without reading because I was falling way behind with all of the great comments. I like your clarity and reasoning for your opinion. Can I please ask that we refrain from posting about the previous admin until there is more info posted by J4A, the owner of this blog. TIA

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  18. Thanks, John P! I just read Chelsea's interview with Trista. My heart breaks. I have a young son and daughter and the pain that she must endure as a mother is unfathomable. I cannot even begin to think of the pain Ayla endured. In my heart, I have to believe she is now protected, safe, loved ... wherever that place/realm may be.

    I know we are ALL devoted to this case and we will keep this fight going. I have to keep faith in our laws, those involved MUST be brought to justice.

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    1. I have so much sorrow in my heart for Trista, Ayla, and the family! There is no way for the pain they feel to be magically lifted from thier hearts. I wish there was a way. I hope they feel the prayers, well wishes, and love that is for them from across the nation! All we can focus on now is finding Answers and Justice for Ayla! With that hopefully some form of closure, if there is such a thing, can begin to befall the family that so desperately fights for Ayla!!

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  19. we have to go back to WHY pheebs decided to stay in a motel a mile away from here home. WHY this particular night?

    'Ayla's grandmother, Phoebe DiPietro, who first spoke exclusively with CNN on Friday, said she now wants to clarify a detail about her interview.

    During her interview with CNN, DiPietro said Friday that she "didn't hear anything" when asked if she heard any noise the night Ayla disappeared. She added that there was not a party at the house, noted she wasn't the last one to go to bed and said she wasn't sure whether the doors to the house were locked.

    On Sunday, DiPietro said she wanted to make clear that she wasn't home the night Ayla disappeared


    DiPietro now tells CNN she was not among the adults at the home from which Ayla disappeared that night but instead was at another location that she wouldn't publicly disclose.'

    She says she just wants her Ayla home unharmed.

    "I'd give everything I owned if we can have her back," she said Friday, her voice breaking.
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    her ayla? give me a break.everthing you OWNED? you mean what you no longer own?
    NO DOUBT IN MY MIND SHE FOUND OUT TRISTA HAD FILED. no doubt she didnt want trista to ever have her again.not alive anyway, and to date, looks like not dead either.

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    1. Can you please post a link that states that Pheeb's was at a local hotel that night? I must have missed that somehow. THanks.

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    2. I have been looking for this article myself Bride. I have not found anything either.

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  20. Are all comments posted? Or is there a delay? Do some comments not get posted because of content or opinion?

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    1. Sorry JD, I am trying to stay up with everyone. I will try harder to be more reactive to the comments!

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  21. I posted the following on Juststopthelies which is the one and ONLY thing I will EVER post on that blog....
    Here is my thought for the day. I have nothing to do with this case, I am not a "blogger" in fact it is shocking that I am even commenting. I do however follow this case. I will say this, THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE TO REMOVE THE CHILDREN FROM ELISHA & COURTNEY! That probable cause has to do with their lifestyle choices and the continued lack of judgment with their current choices. No good mother would be associated with Justin DiPitro at this point unless he CAN be proven innocent. And even then a good mother would use EXTREME CAUTION. If these two women dont choose to stay away it is 100% because not only are they involved but they are guilty of something. Anyone who believes anything different than this does not have common sense whatsoever and I would hope they themselves do not have children. I myself will continue to file complaints with DHS, State of Maine, the Congressman, whatever it takes to have the two innocent children removed from this home. Their lives are not something to risk by allowing them to stay in this home, it is not a chance worth taking. These blogs are not doing anything to bring home or to a grave to rest. Nothing. The childish bickering and back and forth are a clear indication that this is EXACTLY why these people should not have children. If you have been innocently standing for Ayla as I have and have given your input here and there dont take offense to this, it does not apply to you. It is time to save the lives of the two children that we know are still alive.
    Contact Mike Michaud
    108 Main Street
    Waterville, ME 04901
    Phone: (207) 873-5713
    Fax: (207) 873-5717

    I also suggest using this:
    To report child abuse or neglect:

    Call 1-800-452-1999
    Deaf/Hard of Hearing - TTY: 1-800-963-9490

    The Maine Child and Family Services line is staffed 24-hours a day, 7-days a week.

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    1. Excuse all the Typo's, I was typing quickly and did not reread what I had wrote :) Thanks

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    2. Kristi, I posted this because you seem sincere and firm in your convictions and your opinion. I believe you are going to get a few comments :) that are not very nice replies. With that said, I ask commenters to please limit the profanity and if you disagree please try to do so respectfully.

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    3. Im hoping not many from this blog as most my negativity was directed at the other blog. I am just so sad that it seems that this case is very active on blogs, and that who knows who is behind the typing. Like me, Im just a nobody from Colorado, but could be posing as someone else. Why people do this I dont understand. I just really want to see that something is done to prevent anything else from happening to another child. Ive seen children taken away for less.

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    4. eh, I posted a bit ago & it looks like my post has not yet been approved on JSTL. I am assuming that they wont "allow" my comment. But I will give it some more time

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    5. I completely agree with you Kristi, those children should have been removed immediately from there mothers care when they stopped cooperating!

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  22. Please go to GRATEFULNESS.ORG and light a candle for Ayla. I think everyone needs to get back to what is most important - JUSTICE FOR AYLA!

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  23. There's one thing that I'd like to bring up. Alot of the water searches seem to occur around the Ticonic Falls area near the spillway and Hathaway. Violette Ave is SE of that area. wouldn't it make more sense to dispose of a body below the dam? Perhaps even as far as where the Kennebec and Sebasticook meet? There are several Bridges along that stretch of river that are not well lit. I don't believe there is another dam until you reach Augusta. Also, it was warmer than usual and the river was not completely frozen. A weighed body would sink to the bottom but the current in that river can get pretty fierce and most objects do not stay in one place very long. A body that is weighed down will eventually decompose enough to rise to the surface. Not to talk badly about the local PD, but there aren't that many police in Winslow or WTVL and a car driving at night/early in the morning really won't raise much suspicion in that area.

    Steve

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    1. I agree,their first search was below the dam,they must have had some reason to keep returning above, Maybe the first items found keep them going back? Or a tip?

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    2. Annon, Yes, I would hope that they would search below that dam as well, and like you say, at the dam in Augusta.

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    3. Maybe they are using cell phone pings to guide their search

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  24. I don't care what anyone says but those kids should be taken away!!! There is known drug use!! I bet if they were taken (the kids) those girls would talk!! You can't tell me that if Courtney's son was taken she wouldn't talk to get her son back!! Those kids should have been taking a long time ago!! I am not one for kids getting takin away but in this case I am!! Only because they are in danger!! How can u say there not!!! I agree with Kristi 100%!! No good mother would have there children around the DIP's !! Would u have your kids around the DIP's knowing all that u know?? I know I sure as heck wouldn't!! I can keep going on and on but I won't!!!

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    1. I would not have any of my kids around any of them either.

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  25. It's been eerily quiet on all the blogs today. Makes me wonder what's going on behind the scenes that most of us reading here aren't privy to. Hmmm

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    1. We're merging into one site with the Answers for Ayla blog; that is taking some time. We have also had to purge many posts from this blog so that the transferring of this blog to the new one takes; this has required quite a bit of time to do behind-the-scenes. Tori had a visit from police last night and is still in recovery and I think that with everything that has transpired over the course of the last week alone, a much needed break is needed. The blog will be up and running in the next week, but the discussions on these blogs still remain. Hope that helps. :)

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    2. blessedly quiet is how I am choosing to view it. After all the insanity of the last few days, a welcome relief as well.

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  26. ordered by pheebs-
    October 17th, 2011, 3pm - DHHS case worker and supervisor for child protection services (CPS), called Jessica demanding that she turn Ayla over Justin. Jessica refused to give Ayla to Justin.
    October 17th 2011, 7pm - Lewiston Police and Justin (who waited downstairs) arrived at Jessica's apartment and demanded on behalf of DHHS that they turn Ayla over to them. pheebs was waiting in the car

    ordered by pheebs
    aylas arm is broken ands is left to suffer in pain for several days until she is finally brought to the emergency room

    ordered by pheebs
    justin refuses to allow trista to take ayla home after a docs appt


    ordered by pheebs
    On February 7th, Lance DiPietro was arrested for assaulting Justin Linnell. Lance claims it was because Justin L. was talking badly about his family and he was forced to defend them.

    ordered by pheebs
    justin tries to claim ayla on his tax return but is denied.

    ordered by pheebs
    justin tricks trista to give him the ssn for his mother but takes out a policy that pays him 25k if/ when she dies

    ordered by pheebs
    dec 8-justin stops all communication between trista and ayla

    ordered by pheebs
    elisha takes out a restraining order against J linnel barring him from seeng gabby

    ordered by pheebs
    jutin tries to stop child support payments

    ordered by pheebs
    justin is banished from the violette ave house

    ordered by pheebs
    estranged sister selena appears/stumbles out of nowhere to defend the family

    ordered by pheebs
    a paid blogger purpously leaks 2 false sightings of trista and ayla together after her disapearance on the internet and calls the fake tips into LE

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    1. I've known all along PD was behind it and Phoebe Knows.!

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    2. What does ordered by pheebs mean?

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    3. I'm not so sure this isn't the same bus that tried to run over Lance the other day.

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  27. what do you mean he was banished from Violette ave?He still lives there.His car is there every morning and everynight,during the week

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  28. Selena called Phoebe,where are you getting your information?

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  29. I doubt Phoebe knew half of what Justin was doing,she had a full time job,and went on sleepovers.Just as she had been doing since they were children never home.

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  30. It means that Pheobe tells Justin what to do (and everyone else). It would make so much more sense that Pheobe tells Justin what to do and when. Because when u think about it, that's why Justin had to hang up the phone when calling 911 to report Ayla missing: He needed to ask his mom because he didnt know what to say. And that also explains why he ran out of the police station when they showed him Ayla's blood: he didn't know what to say because his mom didn't know (didn't prepare poor Justin) about the blood yet.

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    1. And why he locked himself in the bathroom after calling 911 - I wonder if he stayed there until mommy got home?

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  31. It makes less sense. Pheebs told everyone what to do, and they just went along with it? HT is doing all of her defending to protect Pheebs? I'm not buying it. I think JD, and most likely DT, are getting scared and they will try to throw whoever under the bus now to see what sticks as that June 30th deadline is fast approaching.

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  32. The next petition we need to start is one for DHHS related to the other two mothers who still have their children!

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  33. DiPietros in order of likely culpability from least likely to be responsible for what happen to Ayla to most, IMO:

    1. Lance
    2. Elisha
    3. Phoebe
    4. Justin

    Ayla's blood was by the bed in which Justin and the woman he had sleeping over slept.

    Phoebe made an uncharacteristic departure from the home.

    Elisha was in the home.

    Lance lived elsewhere and was reportedly working that night.

    All according to news and blog reports...

    Justin went to Portland to take Ayla when Trista was in rehab. Justin took out the life insurance policy. Justin injured Ayla or allowed her to be injured while in his care repeatedly. Justin told Trista he thought someone would take Ayla. Justin reported Ayla missing.

    Phoebe went with Justin to take Ayla from Portland. Phoebe took care of Ayla at least some of the short time Justin had her, according to Trista. Phoebe allowed a gun to be kept in her home (owner unknown) and allowed drug activity and associates in her home.

    Elisha? Lance? They don't seem to be in the thick of things. I hope they have the decency to come forward, tell the truth, and let the person or people who committed this crime bear the responsibility.

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    1. The reverse order is who will most likely come clean first.

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    2. Some major player we're glossing over here.

      Miss Roberts? Miss Small? Mr. Tudela?



      My feeling of those involved in order from least involved to most involved.

      Karen Small.
      Briana Roberts.
      Lance.
      Elisha.
      Phoebe.
      Justin/Derek/Courtney.

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    3. How did I forget some other folks???

      **Some unknown (as of yet) with the capacity to hinder this case.**
      Karen Small.
      Briana Roberts.
      Heidi Tudela.
      Lance.
      Elisha.
      Phoebe.
      Justin/Derek/Courtney.

      ** : complete imagination @ work but I do wonder!

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    4. ITA, anon 8:18! I think Derek is a sensitive subject. As soon as his name starts getting thrown around, we see attempts at placing blame else where. . Lance, Pheebs, etc.

      So maybe we should get back to talking about just how Derek was involved in all of this.

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    5. I agree Derek's and Courtney's names probably belong in there. I was focusing only on DiPietro's. As far as Heidi and Karen, I doubt either was directly involved in murder or body disposal.

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  34. I believe Ayla's fate was sealed the very moment Justin purchased the LIP without Trista's knowledge or approval. Ayla's welfare went to the dogs after the policy was issued. Ayla began to sustain injuries, and ultimately died.

    Elisha and Phoebe are just as guilty in my eyes. Phoebe lied about her whereabouts that night. Elisha didn't give a damn for Ayla.

    Where do you put Courtney Roberts in your list?

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    1. Depends-
      -On one hand, she may have never even known that Ayla was not in head that night(if Ayla met her demise that day)
      BUT eitherway, There is no way that she now does not know what happened or is really questioning if Ayla was there or not. Yet, she is still keeping her mouth shut. The only thing that would make me think that she really does not know, and did not see Ayla that night at all, is if she was to distance herself from Justin and start cooperating with LE, even if it does not help much.
      Since she has not, and is not, I tend to believe she knows or is responsible herself.

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    2. McKitty- Oops, I read you comment before reading the ones above. I did not notice that you were replying to someone.
      By the way- it's great seeing you back more often, I did not see you on for a little while.

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    3. Thanks, PB! Things are slow on the MS board, so this is my "home away from home."

      Hope you are well. Man, things have gotten kinda kooky on this blog in the past few days, no? Who needs soap operas when you've got J4A?

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    4. McKeekitty, I waffle about Courtney. I have always felt she was there because she was in whatever happened deeply enough that she couldn't risk leaving. Otherwise she'd have gone home. The blood was by the bed she was apparently sleeping in with Justin. She sneered at Trista at the gj and vigil or so it is said. I am torn between she's as guilty as he is, guiltier, or #1 accessory after the fact. Definitely think there was a conspiracy and she was part of it.

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    5. Yes McKitty- I agree I feel bad for Tori that people keep attacking her and hope that she never gets discouraged from the blog itself. This is the only place to feel that the world has not forgotten about Ayla. The baby has stolen my heart! Tori is doing a good job at trying to keep all of the drama off the blog. Things will settle again, they always do. I honestly think that some are threatened by Tori's blog and what we may uncover and that is why there are so many distrations from the case.

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    6. I like the way you think, Forever Curious.

      There are just so many possible scenarios...

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  35. Anon 7:20p,
    A petition to DHHS for concern of the other 2 children. I agree.

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  36. Holy Shit~~~~ What is going on with SA!!! Something damn freaky!!!!

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    1. Must be your computer playing tricks, cuz SA is fine.

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  37. uh-oh,looks like Peter's been hacked.

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    1. Do you think it's done by someone we might know?

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  38. What the hell is that!!!!! Oh y dear Lord!

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  39. K and others,

    There is no question in my mind that Ayden and Gabbie are already under the DHHS radar. I am sure LE made sure of it. LE needs another call to 29 Violette Ave regarding an endangered child like a hole-in-the-head.

    DHHS activity is confidential, as it should be. You will not find that headline 'GABRIELLA LINNELL AND AYDEN ROBERTS REMOVED FROM DIPIETRO HOME' that you long to see. But that doesn't mean that these children aren't being closely monitored by the proper authorities and agencies.

    This is a senistive issue. Removing children from their mothers is serious stuff. Do I like Courtney or Elisha? ABSOLUTELY NOT! But my feelings aren't the issue. DHHS findings are the issue.

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  40. Or never mind, read the SA comments- Chicky that's the Statement Analysis blog- looks like it was intentional maybe.

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  41. Scared me for a minute there!! phew!

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  42. Im sure nobody wants to hear some *truth* amidst all of this nonsense- but to those who want to organize a search:

    -before you do ANYTHING, contact the MSP or the Maine Wardens Service

    - the Wardens are in charge of ALL searches, and in a high profile case such as this, even people already on organized rescue teams are not allowed to participate unless they are Certified search & rescue personel

    -Im no trying to be a wet blanket, but I know what Ive stated, IS factual and just urge you to use caution before you search any place that is NOT YOUR OWN PROPERTY

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  43. That is why I mentioned before concerning working with LE, getting training or whatever they require.

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  44. ALSO:
    I think this got left behind in the prior 200 comments> (I'll mention again, here, so I dont have to keep going back to see if anybody has other info)

    Robyn Small: (per fb) hometown of Oakland, ME

    P. Dip: grew up in Oakland (from what I read from a classmate on MS online) & brother Larry still resides there

    coincidence? maybemaybenot!

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  45. I just saw on another blog a comment that Ray has been removed from Trista by DHHS?!?!?!?! Is this true, Tori? I hope Trista is ok...

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    1. I believe that comment was said in jest,or some other numb reason.

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    2. I can assure you that I got an e-mail from Jeff minutes ago that Ray is home with his family! The rumor is that, a rumor! Actually, I think he is having fun giving the adults a hard time tonight according to Jeffs reply! :)) That is the lil guy acting like a lil guy!!!

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    3. Thank you, John. Good to know that he is safe :)

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  46. The population of Oakland, ME is 5,959 so there's a good chance their families knew each other if there at same time.

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  47. Acc. to the Oakland website, Oakland is only 4 mi from Waterville and "boasts" 4 waterways: McGrath Pond, Salmon Lake, East Pond, and Messalonskee Lake and Stream. Anyone looking there for Ayla?

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  48. Hope for Ayla, what blog is that on?

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    1. Pink Blog and the Crazy blog

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