Sunday, June 3, 2012

Guest Submission- PB

I have tried to put the pieces together.. I have tried to add everything up, and I am left scratching my head. 1 + 1 does equal 2, right?The only conclusion that I can piece together follows. These are MY OPINION and although I feel that I am on the right track, we must keep in mind, that this is not fact.1: These Mothers are not saying anything to LE to protect their babies from the others that was there that night.+ 1: These Mothers are not removing their babies from the presence of the other that was there that night.= These Mothers must be guilty of something themselves, therefor, they are keeping their mouths shut, and these children are in GRAVE danger.Furthermore, it seems that each agency is blaming each other or pointing fingers anywhere except at themselves. CPS cannot do anything because LE has not named any suspects, LE cannot do anything because Elisha and Courtney are not talking and (in my opinion) Elisha and Courtney are not saying anything because they are guilty. Does anyone else see the irony in that?Courtney, Elisha- please come out and tell me that I am wrong. Why are you hiding, why aren't you protecting your babies? Exactly what are you going to do when/if it is Ayden and Gabby that come up missing?

Gabby and Ayden need us! Ayla may be lonely where ever she is, but I am sure that she does not want her future step-brother and cousin joining her.I know that I have said this many times in my comments, but I know that if I was in Elisha's shoes and I had nothing to do with Ayla being missing, even if I wanted to believe that my brother was innocent, I would have serious doubts. My first priority would be to protect my baby before anything or anyone else. At the very least, I would be out in the public, letting everyone know that I am innocent and at least show that I am concerned about my babies safety by getting Justin away from her. And you can bet that if I was NOT involved, but I knew my brother hurt his child, I would ensure that he spent the rest of his life behind bars and away from my baby girl. Knowing that either way, Elisha is keeping tight lips and not putting her daughter's safety first, really ticks me off. Is she really putting her brother's interests first? Or maybe it is herself that she is protecting.. or maybe 1 + 1 = 3.

When it comes to Elisha, I can see her, MAYBE sleeping in her room and not hearing something that happened in the basement. But, there is NO WAY that Courtney slept through something that happened right beside her, in the same room. Courtney has to know a hell of a lot more than she is saying. Furthermore, her own son was right there too. It could have easily been Ayden that Justin lashed out on instead of Ayla. It could have been Ayden that met his "demise" down in that house. So what does Courtney do? She sleeps with this monster the next night, and the next... and where is Justin now? Most likely right down the hall from where Ayden lays his head at night. HELL NO!! Someone needs to be smart enough to came to Ayden's rescue. Again, it is not going to be CPS unless LE speaks up; it will not be LE until Courtney speaks up and Courtney will not speak up, WHY? Cause just Maybe, the monster sleeping down the hall is not Justin, MAYBE IT IS HER!

My heart wants to believe that these Mom's are innocent and these babies are safe, but my brain tells me that I am rightfully worried. There are many other people in the lives of Ayden and Gabby that should speak up for them. If their own mother's will not, someone that is blood related should. It is scary that the only people who are worried about their safety are complete strangers. Where are their Grammies, their dads, their grampies. Don't they have Aunts, Uncles, cousins? Where are their Angels? What is it going to take, a broken arm, a pulled leg muscle, a big bruise on their face? I beg their families to not wait until it gets that far. Protecting your youth is not admitting guilt, it is an act that families do every day. 

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  1. "I would be out in the public, letting everyone know that I am innocent". I agree. If you are wrongfully accused, wouldn't you do more than tell you don't understand how people can hate your family that much? If someone is accused publicaly with a terrible crime of hurting, killing and desposing a child, or keeping silent about it, that person should be all over the media telling their side of the story, telling she didn't do it. An innocent person does not allow anyone to smear other's terrible crime on her!

    I agree, they are not talking because most likely all three had some level of involvement in whatever happened to little Ayla. One of them just forgets the level of involvement makes a big difference in the punishment, and she doesn't deserve to loose her whole future over it. If any of them was kept in the dark the day they reported her missing, that person has to know by now as well, and should speak. Do they really want to spend the rest of their lives under suspicion? They probably say better than in jail. Is it?

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    1. I agree anon, I refer back to VTLady's Guest Post on coincidence. If Elisha would publically state why the coincidences occured of Gabby in her bed, Ayla in Phoebes room, Phoebe out for the night, and the babygate being broken, I think she could repair her reputation as a mother who is concerned for her child and maybe even get a deal with LE which would allow her to keep Gabby! JMO

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  2. Gabby n Ayden are not in danger from Justin. He has no responsibility to them. Nor does he have to pay child support on them.

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    1. Maybe he was being the good uncle and bought LIPs on them too.

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    2. HB I agree he does not have a responsibility to the children, but his only responsibility he has ever cared about was to himself. If he can leverage those children to protect himself, those children are in danger!!

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    3. I respectfully disagree john. He wouldve already got rid of gabby. His hatred was/is Ayla n Trista. I do believe his son could be in danger at some point if he gets away with this murder.

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    4. Sorry HB, I think I misled you in what I was trying to say. I do not think Gabby is in physical harm as long as Elisha is there with Gabby. She has been with Gabby every time I have seen or heard mention of her so she is able to remove Gabby from harms way in that respect. I was referring to the influence Justin can have over Elisha by leveraging Gabby against her. What I mean by this is he can easily tell Elisha, I will blame you if you say anything and then they will take your baby too! I think when Justin harmed Ayla he was alone in the house, no-one to protect Ayla from him, he lost his cool and did whatever to Ayla in a rage. But because Elisha became involved in the cover-up, he can easily use Gabby as leverage against Elisha. The danger I refer to when I said the children are in danger is from loosing thier mothers as well because Justin cares only about Justin! I hope this is making more sense than my comment before.

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    5. I agree with you John.
      They all fear losing what they have right now.
      Hence the lies and the silence.
      As far as Derek Turd goes, same thing.
      On another rant, about State Farm, didn't the Turd
      have a DUI ? And some of his FB friends posted littel snippets about bath salt use. He is no fine upstanding citizen and why would State Farm want their good neighbour name associated with the Turds ?
      a Canadian friend

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    6. I think anybody that is capable of killing a child is a danger to the public at large. They have crossed a line that most people are incapable of. That makes them a danger to everyone. Courtney is delusional. She thinks that Ayla was killed because Justin hates Trista, but Justin loves her, so he won't hurt Ayden. That is just faulty logic and a dangerous rationalization on her part. When it comes to Elisha, I think she believes she can protect Gabby. Whatever happened that night, Elisha retreated to her room with Gabby. I suspect that is a pattern of behavior for Elisha. If something is amiss, she retreats to safety where she thinks she will be protected. She includes Gabby with her. This is not uncommon behavior in abusive households. Unfortunately, it's a false sense of security. The protector, in this case, Elisha, could be harmed and that would leave Gabby unprotected. I hope that never happens, but with someone that is capable of killing a defenseless child, anything is possible.

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    7. No one can protect a baby from another's rage. It's a delusion to think you can. If the unthinkable happens, it will likely happen so fast, there won't be time to intervene and save the baby even if standing at the raging adult's side. If you are lucky enough to calm an abuser down once, don't assume you can do it again. Rage and abuse escalate- that's the nature of the beast.

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    8. When a person kilss and get away with it the become confident and are way more likely to do it again. When a murder is free to do as they please, they are a danger to everybody. I most deffinatly agree the other children in the home are in danger. Its very easy to find yourself in a controlled situation where you feel helpless. Maybe no one in that family will speak out because justin has made sure anytime someone leaves, someone is left with him as leverage? Does anyone know if justin is ever all by himself?

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    9. anon3:43 I think that is exactly my point. Justins rage builds and she has had her life to figure out the signs to get away from him and protect Ayla!

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    10. That should be she protects Gabby. She failed at protecting Ayla!

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    11. John P, I think that's illusory. What I was saying was rage builds from one incident to the next. Yes it can build during a particular incident too, but it doesn't always- you simply cannot depend on it no matter how well you know the abuser. A man who throws his own baby in a rage will throw someone else's baby in a rage, too.

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  3. Just alittle side note. We are getting a lot of rain this weekend in Maine, maybe it'll cause the kennebec river to release some of its secrets.

    Mel

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    1. I hope you are right, Mel! As more time passes, frustration level increases and the more powerful those involved in Ayla's disappearance feel.

      Dawn

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    2. Thanks Mel, I hope you are right. It is time for some Answers for All, but most importantly for Ayla!!

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    3. We had a ton of raain just before the items were found in the river, someone had mentioned this beforehand. Now it is raining in Maine and they are warning of flooding s a ton of rain is expected again and you are right ANNON that it may release more secrets. I bet LE will be doing another search as soon as the rain stops.

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  4. Just suppose, Elisha and Courtney were not at the house when the worst happened to Ayla. Just suppose, it did not happen that night at all, it happened prior to the faked abduction story. Elisha and Courtney have no idea what happened to Ayla. They believe the lies being told by Justin and Lance. As for that night, just suppose Justin supposedly put Ayla to bed and told the others that she was not feeling well and not to disturb her. Gabby goes to bed in the room with Elisha, Ayden goes to bed in the room with Courtney and Justin. Phoebe knows what happened and she says she cannot be there the night of the faked abduction because she cannot lie well. Courtney and Elisha believe Ayla is sleeping and when they get up in the morning, Elisha is used to "discover" the missing Ayla (who never was in the room the night before, having already been disposed of). Now just suppose that Elisha and Courtney really believe the abduction story, because that is all they have heard from Justin, Lance and Phoebe. Why would they not believe them? They do not believe their children are in danger, because they believe someone took Ayla. In fact, they most likely believe it was Trista's family and that Gabby and Ayden are safe. After all, Trista's family do not want to take their babies. Just suppose that whenever Elisha or Courtney ask questions about Ayla they are still told the lie, consistently from Phoebe, Justin and Lance. If a member of your family persisted in saying that others were lying about them, might you not also support your family member? All just something to think about.

    As for how child services work in Maine.

    http://www.accessmaine.org/MEStateSystem/mestate_DHHS_OCFS.htm#Protective

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    1. I have thought for a long time that Justin knows what happened and is directly responsible. But I honestly believe that Elisha knows nothing. As for Phoebe, she may know nothing. As for Courtney, I don't see how she couldn't know, except if she arrived after Ayla was put to bed. Or it might be your version anonymous 8.10, except that I heard from people who were not friends or family that they saw Ayla the day before she "disappeared". Maybe Justin fed his family lies and they all believe him, what a coward...

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    2. @anon at 8:10am
      Your theory is one of the more probable I've read. The problem I see with it is that Justin would have to be one heck of an actor to be able to act normal after doing such a horrific deed. Surely, Courtney would notice his odd behavior. Also, now that there is so much talking about the case and the evidence that has been found, wouldn't you think that Courtney and Elisha would put 2 and 2 together and start to realize that Justin was guilty of something? That is, IF he told them Ayla was sleeping and they never got to see her at all that night.

      The way I see is is that they all know something or they all know nothing.

      I don't know any of these people personally, so I have no clue of the 'type' of individuals each of them are. I will likely get flamed for sticking up for the Tudela family, but I feel the way you guys are including them in this supposed crime is very wrong. There is nothing at all to tie them to Ayla missing. So, they believe Justin's story. That makes them gullible at worst. But to try to ruin someone's life and business just because they are supporting a long time friend is wrong. Just wrong.

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    3. It doesn't take a Peter Hyatt SA to ascertain the origin of your loyalties. Justin is a sociopath so "acting" is not necessary. When you feel no remorse you can easily go on with your day as if nothing out-of-the-ordinary has taken place.

      It really matters not if you are Heidi, Angela, or that crazy-old fruit-loop Dale, you are a liar Chicago. You are here under false pretenses feigning objectivity yet always casting doubt over Justin's culpability in this hideous crime. LE KNOWS JUSTIN KILLED AYLA and so do you. Kindly go fuck yourself and stick to the blog that appreciates your lies and diversionary tactics.

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    4. You'd like to WISH being gullible was your only sin here..Too bad you both spread hate and libelous remarks about Trista from day one. You were both immediately fingering Trista and NOW your defense is one of "Justin tricked us, we didn't know any better".


      Good luck with that. When will Gullible Heidi wake up and realize her son is a druggy-punk whose friend is a dealer/druggy/punk who has used her son for years for his money and whose son has in-turn used him for his drug connections. They both have significant dirt on each other and are both hogtied together in the disappearance of Ayla. Derek's ever-changing remarks about the "play date" conflict with even MOMMY's version.

      Time to cut the chord and teach your so to be a man and take responsibility for his actions.

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    5. I agree, I think that both the Tudela's and Angela H. are extremely gullible at worst. Angela is believing Heidi because they have been long time friends and has no reason to not believe Heidi. Heidi is believing Justin because he has never shown Heidi a side that was dangerous or violent. Justin can come off believable because he didn't kill Ayla. But he cannot pass a lie detector because he knows who did. The problem being, if it was Lance that did the damage, neither of these women know Lance. Justin may well be the meek one who is protecting the violent one (Lance). Justin goes out to Portland on the 15th getting drunk knowing what he has to do to protect Lance. I really think that Heidi and Angela are being used by Justin to help paint him as a good boy. Just suppose that Justin wants everyone to attack him and stay away from the real perp? The problem is that everyone may be looking at the wrong perp and helping Justin with his strategy of protecting the real violent person. Let us release photos of Ayla in Lance's lap and make him look like the good caring uncle. Seriously? does Ayla look happy in his lap? Not to me she doesn't. Lance always protected the family and now the family is protecting Lance. Lance the hothead, Lance the one with a violent temper (let's beat up Linnell with a baseball bat Lance). I still maintain that Courtney and Elisha do not (to this day) know the truth. All of this is just my theory based on facts as they are known and other theories as they have been told by family, friends and others.

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    6. WIAJ, hatred can blind even the most intelligent of people. I think the possibility that Lance harmed Ayla is greater than the possibility that Justin. Don't get me wrong, Justin absolutely knows what happened to Ayla and where she is and is protecting the perp. I believe that the three that know the truth are Lance, Justin and Phoebe. Everyone else is blindly believing their lies. Phoebe was smart in removing herself from the house the night of the "story" she is not a good liar. My thoughts only.

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    7. it takes a village to love and protect a childJune 3, 2012 at 9:50 AM

      Chicago-please. any child care provider who harbors someone who is even SUSPECTED of abusing or slaughtering a child needs a swift kick in the ass. defending Hen hag? you need a swift kick in the ass too.
      you protect children , not possibly endanger them.you must be one of her stupid relatives or friends.Turdela's name =MUD

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    8. You show your lack of class and decency, WIAJ. The frequency of backstreet profanity on these blogs sickens me. What kind of people are some of you?

      All the blogs are the same, with the few trash talking uneducated posters ruining what could be intelligent discussion. I have to wonder how many people on these blogs have more than a minimum wage paying job, if a job at all.

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    9. Anon- I think this is a plausible theory, and it fits the idea that Ayla was missing prior to the reported date. I have thought that Justin did the deed, drove to Portland, got rid of the body on his way to Portland with buddies (Lance, Derek?), moved stuff from his apartment or storage, went to Cumberland Farms to get some smokes w/partners in crime, drove back to Waterville...slept all day, did some light cleaning with bleach (Selena stated he cleaned up b/f CR came to visit)--then hosts a non-party event. ED and CR never saw Ayla--he calls 911 to report her missing.
      But the police say ED and CR aren't tellling the truth either, so at some point they either saw or heard something but have refused to state what that was. In this theory, ED would have the most info since she lives there...

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    10. If I were a child care provider, then NO, I would not 'harbor' someone suspected of a crime. Heidi shouldn't have to tell Justin to stay away. He should have enough sense to sever ties with her so that he doesn't in any way implicate her in this mess.

      If I were not a child care provider, but had a close friend that was being accused of a crime and I thought they were innocent, why would I turn my back on them? What kind of true friend does that?

      Please...I am not a relative or friend or even know any of the people involved in this case or even those posting on the blogs.

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    11. Lance really isn't a mean monster like u people are saying. Yes he attacked JL but he was upset about him slandering his family. I don't agree with his actions but maybe he was at his breaking point and lost it and regrets it. He didn't plan on it happening. They drove by and saw him and he shouted things out to them. I've known lance for awhile and hes not mean. All of his friends have kids that have been around him. Hes just sticking by his family

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    12. Chicago, I will certainly agree that foul language and name calling does nothing for the conversation. Do some people type while angry? None of us are the perpetrators of the crime against Ayla. We are just telling our theories. Cool heads and calm voices are more likely to be heard.

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    13. Anon 8:10, your theory has plausibility. It would be nice if you could add some dates to it and take it a little further and submit your THEORY to J4A Guest Post using the contacts tab above. I do have one problem though is that I do not believe Lance knew until after the harm came upon Ayla. You say Elisha and Courtney believed the lies told by Justin and Lance but if Lance wasn't there until after, he was not the one telling them lies. JMO

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    14. Chicago, I do not intend to "flame" you for your comment. I guess that means like getting bashed real bad. That is not my intent. I do want say though that, as you suspected, I do disagree with your comments of the Tudelas. As for Derrick, he involved himself with the multiple stories of the platdates, the LIP, and contradicting Heidi publically. Heidi involved herself by running a daycare without initially making it known that JD was residing in the house of the daycare and with the 1700 word "Justin" interview. Darrell & Kylie, I agree are being brought into it without any doing of thier own. I do think they could speak out and clear alot of things up but they have not lied to the public and POSSIBLY to LE.

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    15. All 3 told to be witholding information from LE. Actually they could have messed them up if they told one of them is telling the truth, two of them are witholding information. They would have turned on each other then. As far as Heidi is concerned, no mother risks everything and everyone in her life for their son's friend.

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    16. Hear that, Lance? That's the bus coming. It's probably the short bus, because Heidi is driving it and Justin and Derek are sitting in the back with their helmets on.

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    17. Anon 11:12AM "Yes he attacked JL but he was upset about him slandering his family. I don't agree with his actions but maybe he was at his breaking point and lost it and regrets it. He didn't plan on it happening."

      If he 'reached his breaking point' once, if he 'lost it' once, it shows he is capable of irrational and violent behavior. Perhaps the Lance you know is not the real Lance. He obviously has a violent side. He showed that side toward J. Linnell (and who knows, possibly Ayla).

      I keep in mind all the newspaper reports when a person is found to have murdered a person and their neighbor says they have known the person all their life and he's such a kind, sweet and good boy.

      Yeah Right!

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    18. John P!, if a person does not believe the Dipietro's story, then one can cast out anything they say as lies. So that would mean that when they said they were here or there, unless there is outside confirmation, one can assume everything the Dipietro's have said are lies. Unless I have outsider confirmation (meaning, no friend, family or aquaintance) then I assume nothing the Dipietro's have said is truthful. So any dates would be assumptions added would only be 'supposed' dates.

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    19. Lance's approach to life doesn't fit this scenario, IMHO. I think if he was involved upfront or knew upfront what Justin had done, would he really have done nothing to protect Elisha and Gabby? With a baby to think about, it would have made more sense to get them out of the house for the night than Phoebe.

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    20. I don't think it's Lance because of Tim Crews. Tim and Lance are no longer friends and have animosity between them yet Tim speaks up and says he doesn't believe Lance would ever hurt a baby and he drove Lance home after Lance heard of the "kidnapping" and described what sound like real emotions, Lance wanting to comfort Justin. Not only that the whole bizarre Bob Vear episode with Lance allegedly asking Vear after the fact about blood clean up sounds to me like he is the brother with enough street smarts, he would have checked this out upfront before making up an unbelievable kidnapping story. Justin reeks the abuser profile, arrogantly insisting that people believe him while explaining nothing. My feeling is Justin did it with Courtney there and Justin and Courtney came up with the cover-up. Love is not what binds these two, IMHO.

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    21. Anon 3:59, ITA. Lance has been described as emotional and hot headed. I believe that. But people who act on that often do things in the heat of the moment, but feel regret or remorse after. . .or at the very least don't hide what they did and face the consequences. Lance did do that for the JL beat down. He did it in broad daylight, he did it out of rage and anger, but he didn't try to hide it and he didn't deny his responsibility for it by shirking it off on somebody else.

      I don't think Lance hurt Ayla. Justin on the other hand, he seems to lack emotion. I think he is much more likely to be deceitful, feel no remorse and to try and avoid responsibility. His only worry would be avoiding the consequences of his actions.

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    22. Anon 3:37 if you are the anon 8:10, I sensed you were trying to avoid specifics. That was why I suggested the THEORY as a possibility for a little detail. You started your statement that the harm to Ayla did not occur the 16th so I thought you might want to elaborate.

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    23. If Phoebe and all the conspirators in that house decided that she had to be "away" on the night they selected for the "kidnapping" (by Trista and cohorts) because she is not a good liar, then by golly whoever gave Phoebe an alibi for the night of 16th/17th is also a person that the DiPs have to worry about talking someday up the line.

      And that is a person I would imagine LE has their eyes on to some extent. Even though the alibi may very well be on the wrong night for the real disappearance of Ayla.

      Who did Phoebe visit on the night of the 16/17th who gave her an alibi to the police so Phoebe could say to CNN "LE knows where I was that night, but I ain't telling you guys." (In so many words.)

      Phoebe, herself, could be a suspect in what happened to Ayla. The only thing which clears her IMO is that she was "away" with a mysterious someone on the designated night in question which many of us do not consider the "real night".

      Of course, I can see Justin and Elisha covering for Phoebe, she's the breadwinner, but not Courtney wholeheartedly unless she truly is ga-ga over Justin, which she appears to be.
      Just my take.
      __Pennyante

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  5. It absolutely blows my mind that there have not been arrests of Justin, courtney, and Elisha . Can't we as the public do something about this?? Can't we somehow protest this unjust? Justin, I know you. I've sat on couches next to you and dated a friend of yours.. You gave the me the coldest energy when you were around and I cannot believe that it turned out to be because of this. Karma is a bitch and I hope you know everyone knows you did it. Justice for Ayla will prevail.

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  6. mirror mirror on the wall who is the biggest liar of allJune 3, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Justin slaughtered that child. You know it, Le knows it and the whole filty ilk of his knows it. Even Corky and Mr Vegtable lasagne with a tinfoil hat in the corner knows it. so the question again is why is Turd Hen screaming the opposite like a hyena with verbal diahrea?

    the best defense is a good offense?

    Did Justin drag Ayla to Turd Hens house injured and borderline comotose, did Hen try to save her but she took her last breath in the mansion, DID AYLA MEET HER DEMISE DOWN AT HEN'S HOUSE? would a cadaver dog be all over that place like a rabid money on a cupcake? is Ayla in plain sight in a shallow grave on Hen's property?

    sicker things have happened.
    seems to me Hen Hag is protesting too much that Ayla is alive and was abducted.she is like a vocal maestro directing traffic to point the finger at Trista.

    Heidi-you don't believe for a minute she is alive, anyone who does must be smoking some serious opium. WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU FOR A SECOND.YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN WALK TO THE NEAREST MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY, YOU SHOULD BE RUNNING LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL.....

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    1. Why would Heidi go to a loony farm? She is not crazy in the least. She is a lying skank--but in no way, shape, or form..crazy. She knows what happened and is scrambling to defend her ungrateful son who calls her own recollections LIES on another blog. Seems to me there is some dissension in the ranks.


      Maybe she did try and save Ayla. Maybe since Justin did not want to bring her to a hospital, he thought Heidi may be able to help. Maybe it is time their property was searched by MSP and the FBI.

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    2. Heidi pretends to be Forrest GumpJune 3, 2012 at 10:22 AM

      If she has any intelligence at all she would realize she's been punk'd. so she is either dumber than a box of rocks or faking ignorance to save face. If she admits to thinking it could be true then she faces possible child endangerment charges. she has really backed her dum ass between a rock and hard place.

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    3. I was wondering about the same, if Justin took injured Ayla to someone for help? Was someone called over there to the house?

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    4. Punked? Or called upon to do a favor under threat of disclosing things that would destroy her family, business, and community reputation? Her son sold Justin that LIP.

      best guess at this point = money laundering, drug money laundering = federal jail time away from Maine and family, no more holier than thou prestigious family on the hill

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  7. I am writing a letter to the Governor Of Maine asking why no indictments on the last 3 people whose care Ayla was in. A body might never be found. God knows where she is if she was put in the water. Then if she if found, LE is back to square one. I need the Governor to answer some honest questions I have i.e.why this case is still unsolved in lieu of all the evidence. People have been charged without finding a body.

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  8. neverending storyJune 3, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    to take it a step furthur, Justina could have faked going up to check on Ayla at 10pm. she was never in that room that night. her lifeless body stuffed into the shed. BUT Courtney must have noticed the smell of cleaning fluid in the basement, Justin acting weird, not sleeping. the oddities Pheebs spoke of could have been missing bottle of bleach, paper towels, missing hand towels, broken baby gate when Justin rushed upstairs to get such supplies. the 3am noise would have been heard by all, especially Elisha whose bedroom was close to the shed.
    justin and derek tripping over something, slamming car doors waking the neighbors dog. I don't think the death occured before the 16th, he couldn't have hidden it from the girls. it happened fri after his return from Portland, all doped up from the night before.

    Lance showed up too...to remove the drug stuff and squirel it off to Bob Vears place.
    Bob didnt think it odd that Lance shows up out of the blue at an ungodly hour to give him gifts? you don't look a gift horse in the mouth, ok, but what the hell?

    don't be suprised if they find other goodies in the kennebec.........

    the question is, whose prints will be found on the garbage bag and storage container they will eventually find her in?

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  9. Bob was likely just someone who bought pot from Lance. He is insignificant in what happened to Ayla but Lance giving him his moneymakers sure does point to Lance knowing he would be investigated for something. Guilty actions of a guilty person.

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  10. If no one knows for sure, who/which one of them, harmed Ayla, then the 2 other children may very well be in danger. It was obviously, at least, one of them. If it was Justin, then any children he is in contact with, may be in danger (you never know when he might "snap" again). If it was courtney, then any children, including her own, may be in danger. If it was Elisha, same thing. Lance, Phoebe - all the same. If "blame" is not placed and/or admitted by one of them, then they are ALL a danger to other children. How do we know when any one of them will "snap" again? There is a significant amount of blood, of Ayla's in the basement/bedroom, with no medical attention, nor explanation. Who caused that blood loss? If not one of them takes responsibility, then it could be ANY and/or all of them.

    The other innocent children should be protected, before God knows what, happens again, by God knows who.

    I hope that made sense.

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    1. ITA, Kit. What really concerns me is that DHHS has not gotten involved in protecting those babies. I realize that LE has not announced a suspect, but a lot of Ayla's blood was found in that basement. LE announced that the 3 know more about Ayla's disappearance than they are saying. I get that this all may seem like circumstantial evidence, but hasn't DHHS taken other children based upon less evidence?

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    2. Kit, it made perfect sense.

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    3. What doesn't make sense to me is that if DHHS supposedly told Trista to get help or lose the kids because she was drinking, then why hasn't anybody from DHHS stepped in to tell Courtney and Elisha "speak up or lose your kids". I would say that a missing baby believed to be dead with the 3 who are not being forthcoming with information would be more reason to step in than a parent drinking. It is obvious that Ayla was not in danger with Trista, she was happy and taken care of. Also if they took Ayla why did they leave a baby less than a year old in her care?

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    4. I agree that there is the "threat of harm" to any child in that home. ie. there was a child who is now dead from unknown cause. That is all it takes to get DHHS involved. I have worked around the DHHS system for years and I have see children removed for similar reasons. JMW

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  11. Find Ayla Reynolds Missing Since 12/16/2011 From Waterville, Maine shared Find Ayla Reynolds Missing Since 12/16/2011 From Waterville, Maine's photo.
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    Maine State Police told Trista that because of the amount of blood found in the DiPietro's basement and because of the items found in the dam that they believe that Ayla is dead.

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    1. I do think that if Le would release and confirm what Trista said about the amount of blood, that they found a huge amount of Ayla's blood that she couldn't possibly survive without medical help, that some of the items found in the river are related to Ayla, that would make a huge difference, Justin's family and friends would stop believing in his innocence and pressure him to tell the truth. I know that many think that the whole DiPietro's family knows what happened, but I truly believe Elisha and maybe Phoebe don't know and have been manipulated. I think Justin is manipulating everybody around him, that's how selfish he is. Trista should say what MSP told her to the newspapers, but MSP should say as well that Ayla couldn't possibly have survived the loss of blood she suffered in the basement (without going into details), and I think that Justin would start losing the support and maybe his family and close friends would start pressuring him to tell the truth.

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    2. Still no clue- ITA with you. I'd like to see LE release more information like you said. Not anything that would hurt the case they are buidling but something that would open the eyes of the others that may believe him. Than if they still keep their mouths shut and do not come forward with more information, it will further prove that they knew all along. IMO

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    3. motel cameras and cell pings sink shipsJune 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM

      listen pheebs knows. it wasn't a usual occurance for her to stay at a motel when she had a home a mile away. maybe justin or heidi paid for her motel room........
      if pheebs didn't know, then what did justin say to get her out of the house that night? hey mom, we're having an orgy, ya might want to find another place to sleep tonight?

      she is the worst actor and liar ever....

      and was justin seen in the wee hours at her room telling her they got rid of the evidence, or did they call her...ah, cell records...gotta love'em.

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    4. I still think that some of the people around Justin believe him and may not have a clue about Ayla. Justin knows where Ayla is, the others may not know. Phoebe may have stayed with somebody else that night for her own reasons. If Justin's family and friends were confronted with the evidence of Ayla's blood (by MSP, without having to tell the media, believe me, the ones who are innocent will stop supporting him. Losing his support, he won't be able to hide in his shell any more. The very same people who have supported him all along may then try to make him speak. Of course, if the people around him are still supporting after being confronted with the evidence of Ayla's blood (something showing it was more than a few drops) then that's very telling.

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    5. I would have initially, maybe? thought that phoebe did not know anything, untill she started telling ies and changing her story. her excuses were lame because if she did not know how much LE wanted her to say, she took the route of telling a lie rather than being honest and say that she was not sure if she should talk about it. When asked if it was a normal night her answer was that it was a normal night. When asked what was going on that night, were they watching television etc. her answer was, pretty much other than Ayla was missing. Now, do I think she does not know anything, well, looks shady to me>

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    6. Well, Phoebe claims LE had told her not to give any details and later told her she could. I really think that Elisha and Phoebe may be innocent, and that if they were shown the photo of Ayla's blood spill, that might change a lot and they might start pressuring Justin to tell the truth.

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  12. I know I posted this last night...but I just found out that this girl is 10 weeks pregnant and the police never listed her in the missing database. She is alone, has no cell phone and no family in the area. Her family is in Maine and Canada and they can't even go to Kentucky to try to find her and put up posters because they have no connections, no place to stay and not enough money to stay in a hotel. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE share this poster of Skyler Beckwith!

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/95713535/Skyler-Beckwith-Missing

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  13. arrests warrants are smokingJune 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    holy moly. so the items found in the dam were related to ayla.

    her stuffed dog, her blanky, her shoe, her pj's?.

    yep, justin and derek dumped her and her stuff in the river at 3am. her remains will be found close by. prob stuck under a low lying tree branch along th ebanks. someone fishing will find her.

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  14. Ayla alone was targeted for abuse and eventual death. I believe the other two children are safe.

    Ayla suffered a broken arm, a pulled leg muscle, inexplicable bruising, and a signifant loss of blood in that basement. Ayla only received medical attention for the broken arm, but never made her last doctor appointments.

    I never believed the December 17 story...I believe Ayla died soon after Trista's last contact with her daughter on December 8.

    There is no law that would have prevented Phoebe, Lance, Elisha or Courtney to seek medical attention for Ayla's pulled leg muscle, inexplicable bruising, or significant blood loss.

    There was no LIP on Aiden or Gabby...only Ayla.

    Justin assumed custody for Ayla so that he could murder her, and his family went along with the plan.

    I toss Lance in the mix because I believe there is more to the Bat Boy incident involving Justin Linnell than meets the eye. I am also reminded that Lance severed his friendship with Tim Crews because Tim intended to search for Ayla. WTF?

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    1. mckeekitty, I do believe that Ayla was targeted, by (more than likely) Justin The thing is though, not knowing, with 100% certainty, for sure, that it was absolutely Justin, and that he had a premeditated plan, then it is possible any and all of them could have harmed Ayla. Was it def. Justin? It seems more than likely, yet it *could* have been one of the others. Was it def. premeditated? If not, then who knows what exactly "set him/them off", and could it happen again?

      If none of them want to talk, then it's a toss up, and ALL the children associated with them should be kept safe, until the truth comes out.

      I do think it was Justin who harmed Ayla. I'm not absolutely sure on the others involvement and cover up assistance. I think derek mostly helped with the cover up. But, regardless, not knowing with absolute certainty, the other innocent children need to be protected... Just in case.

      What if, God forbid, Justin and/or any of them go into a rage, and harm another innocent baby? I just don't think the chance should be taken, just because most of us do *think* Ayla was targeted by Justin.

      Plus, even if these other mothers are "only" in on a cover up, that is almost just as bad. It shows the don't care about Ayla, an innocent baby, at all. How much do they care about their own babies? Would they cover for Justin, if it was their own baby? Or is it just Ayla, they don't care about?

      So many what if's and maybe's and questions. I just think the other babies should be kept safe, from the what if's, maybe's and unknown's.

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    2. I think that the abuse Ayla suffered- the few times that she was with Justin is WAY too much. Lets also not forget that most of the times Justin had Ayla, Courtney and sometimes Elisha was there too. Did either witness the previous abuse? Did they choose not to say anything then too? We know that Ayla had these issues and did get medical attention ONLY because Trista is a good mom, but we do not know how many times Gabby and Ayden has been injured and may or may not have been taken to the hospital. If Trista did not call Justin on Ayla's injuries, would Courtney and/or Elisha ever tell anyone about them?

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    3. The bat boy incident was 3 days before the gj. Subpoenas had already been issued. Best guess- it was a warning not to repeat what you're saying around town to the grand jury.

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    4. By all accounts, Elisha is a good mother. Yet she may very well be an evil, heartless aunt.

      From my understanding, Ayla was "dumped" on Elisha for caretaking. Hey, what's another toddler to Elisha, right? Elisha may have deeply resented this. And Ayla definitely stole some thunder from Gabbie.

      Elisha's comments regarding her own polygraph mimicked those of Justin's..."I did fine. It is what it is."

      Unless I missed it, I never saw a single photo of Elisha with Ayla. I've seen Ayla with Phoebe. I've seen Ayla with Justin. I've seen Ayla with Lance. I've seen Ayla with Courtney. Did I miss the one with Elisha with Ayla? If so, I'm sorry for this train of thought.

      Ayla may have disappeared on Justin's watch, but not necessarily while under Justin's physical care. That was Elisha's terrain. We don't really know the circumstances of the broken arm. Elisha would certainly have noticed Ayla's torn leg muscle and the bruising, but she did nothing. Can't help but wonder if she would have reacted differently if Gabbie had inexplicable injuries?

      I remember reading here on this blog about Elisha's brief attendance at one of the "festive" vigils (I think it was Bubbles & Balloons). An attendent at the vigil remarked how Elisha appeared to "just want to get the hell out of there."

      Why isn't Elisha concerned for Gabbie? Christ, Elisha's niece was abducted and murdered, and yet Elisha and her daughter continue to live in the home.

      True...we do not know how many times Ayden and Gabbie were ever treated for injuries in the past, but you better believe doctors and DHHS now know. Ayden and Gabbie were blessed with something Ayla lacked during her short stay at her dad's house...her loving mother, Trista.

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    5. McKee, Kit, PB all you ladies are right on point. I think the noncaring of the adults about the children is what bothers me the most besides Ayla being missing!

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    6. Kit and PB...I definitely appreciate and share your frustrations about this. I really do.

      Kit...as you pointed out, we do not know with 100 percent certainty who harmed Ayla, only that she was abused, lost blood in that basement, and is now dead. And just as we don't know that it was definitely Justin that harmed Ayla, we also don't know if it was some crazy "Uncle Zachary", a deranged neighbor, a party guest on bath salts, a vengeful act from a drug deal gone sour, or a multitude of other possible scenarios limited only by the imagination. However unlikely, Ayla's death may have had NOTHING to do with the Dips themselves. We just don't know...yet.

      LE has not named a person or persons of interest in this case. Yes, LE has essentially called the Dips a bunch of liars that are withholding critical information, but that is a far cry from a murder charge/charges.

      With so many questions unanswered, DHHS has no authority to remove Gabby and Ayden from their respective mothers. To do so would be a slippery slope.

      It sucks, I know.

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    7. @McKeeKitty:

      I understand what you're saying WRT Ayla being the ONLY child singled out for abuse...
      But, I don't think it's a valid argument for the other two children connected to that household being considered "safe".

      For one thing, an abuser who had no patience for kids or business being around them JUST "lost" his/her personal punching bag.

      AND, the abuser lost, said punching bag, going into a period of EXTREME stress.
      It's gotta be hell, wondering if every phone call, or knock at the door is going to be LE announcing they found MORE incriminating evidence against you, or have secured a warrant for your arrest!

      If Ayla's abuse was *at all related* to an adult with a short-fuse, then I think Gabby and Ayden ARE at-risk...even IF they haven't been "abused" in the past.
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    8. I am still inclined that everything in this case revolves around Justin. If it was "crazy Uncle Zachary" then why are the people surrounding Justin protecting him? It seems that CR or HT wouldn't be interested in protecting some unknown third party. I also don't believe that Elisha is the one that actually harmed Ayla. We don't know that she didn't try to protect her or remained silent about Ayla's other injuries. She may have been talking to Pheebs about her suspicions. I'm not condoning her silence or the way she is in a round about way protecting whoever is responsible, most likely Justin, but she may be acting out of fear. I still think of the three in the house that night, Elisha knows the least. I do believe she retreated to her room, much like the monkey. . see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil. Who me? I don't know nuthin'. I didn't see nuthin'.

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    9. VTLady, I agree for the most part, I do think Ayden is more so in danger only because Elisha has learned over the years what will set JD off and avoid this. The possible snap rage is still a threat but Courtny does not know what Elisha does. That puts Ayden in that much more peril in my opinion!

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    10. the many faces of child abuseJune 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM

      you never saw pics of elisha with ayla because elisha was the one BEHIND THE CAMERA, taking the shots. she is also e one who video'd gabby kicking te crap out of ayla tring to get her outof the tent. she never once said to gabby to stop kicking ayla, she just kept filming away. she is one sick bitch.some of ayla injuries like the face bruises could have come from ayden eing allowed to beat on her. justin didnt give a shit , she was marked for death anyway. and courtney didnt give a crap either, as an extention of trista, it prob gave her pleasure to see her kid smacked around.

      you can be sure justin never changed a diaper, so pheebs, elisha and courtney were most likely the perps who caused some of the injuries. the pulled leg muscle happened in portland and it wasnt from horsing around like justin claims, it was from resentful courtney being rough with tristas baby during a diaper change. that is why they are all as thick as theives.
      and courtney laughing in tristas face after she knows her kid is dead, the ultimate revenge for baging her studley peachy boy.

      pheebs broke her arm trying to force her to sit in a big girls chair for dinner.

      her holding up a picture of ayla, who she knew was dead on the bottom of the river, smiling...what does that tell you?

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    11. @JohnP,

      I think you're right: Ayden's at greater risk.

      ELISHA is probably more aware of Justin's "breaking-point", having known him her WHOLE LIFE, and therefore more intuitive about WHEN to keep HER kid out of Justin's way!

      Also, I imagine that because Courtney and Justin are in a relationship, he is simply AROUND AYDEN more than he is Gabby.

      JMHO, but I think ANY mother who allows Justin DiPietro around her child, should be looked at for suspicion of child-endangerment.

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    12. Oh, I get it! Hey, if legal services were my playpen, Ayden and Gabbie would have been OUT OF THAT HOUSE ON DAY ONE! There is little question in my mind that Ayla was abused and murdered by a paternal family member(s).

      Obviously what is morally responsible (removing the children) versus the law are in direct conflict.

      That is why I closed my previous post stating that it sucks.

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  15. arrests warrants are smokingJune 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    Explains why they keep going back over and over to the river,diving ,draining,dogs,choppers, boats. the end is near. someone's lojack signal or cell pings led them there....those pings are stored in the server and it takes a subpeona and time to retrieve those records and piece it all together.

    is there lojack in Justins suv or dereks car?

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    1. They were looking for a missing Skowhegan man yesterday in and around the river (FYI). JMW

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    2. yes, I know, Jeff Godin, they found his body in someone's backyard. very sad.

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    3. yes more dives are planned,there is some reason they keep going there.

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  16. Maybe a little off topic but do we know the date that Justin sent Trista a text saying he was worried that Ayla would be taken?? And does he have an alibi for being in Portland at 2 am right before little Ayla was reported missing? I'm sorry I've been trying to keep up with the case but I'm not able to check in as much as I used to!

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  17. Kit,
    I completely agree. The foul play in that home leading to probable death, per LE, along with withheld information by others in the home = unsafe place for other babies. DHHS, where are you now? Don't let another Powell tragedy occur on your watch.

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  18. In my mind this is a big IF, but IF what happened to Ayla actually happened on the night of Dec. 16 to 17, there is no (*&$#*(^$#&* way anyone else in the house slept through it. She was killed by an act of violence and rage. Did you ever live in a household where someone acted out in rage? I have and I can tell you no one sleeps through it.

    My own feeling is that night was the cover-up, though, and she died at some point between the 8th and 16th.

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    1. Hey Connie, where was Ayla during the 8th - 16th. Wasn't she at your house. Come on back and help us straighten this mess out.

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    2. It's really disturbing that people are willing to say such things. Was Ayla really at Connie's while Justin was in Portland making a big drug buy? Why would somebody make up that they saw Ayla with Trista after the 16th? That takes a special kind of sick in my book. . unless they have some kind of motive. Does Connie like what Justin is selling?

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  19. I see it written that it was confirmed to Trista that the river items were connected to Ayla? Where is the info on this, I guess I missed it.

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    1. I see it on findAylaReynolds facebook, and in the comments on A4A, but I can't find the original statement from Trista or Jeff or in any news articles. I think it's most likely true, but I can't find the source either.

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    2. I just wondered if there was a new news article where Trista had announced this. Guess not so must be someones missinterpretation of a statement.

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  20. I have never heard the names Ayla or Ayden before this case. They sure do sound very similar to be of no relation. Is Ayden Justins child also? Susie R

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  21. Someone hurt Ayla..that "hurt" took her life..Someone disposed of her body..someone knows how.when.where....AH and HT are relatives..friends..who are standing by thier friend...everyone needs friends like that...right or wrong...everyone hopes they have such friendships..trying to destroy a family because they BELIEVE JD is innocent..or at best not proven guiilty..is WRONG..Tit for Tat..wont help AYLA....everyone is entitled to thier opinions...BUT..some of the posters are meerly that posters..who in life..really care nothing about AYLA..only an audience to "boost" thier egos..thank GOD they are few..The MAJORITY..care about AYLA..My heart aches for Trista...The best case scenario..Ayla was kidnapped and is found and returned to her family..unharmed..the worst case is she was kidnapped and is no longer alive..she was harmed under JD's watch and...the silence will never be broken..blogs will continue with the what ifs and if onlys..I hope that everyone takes a moment to THINK..about destroying others lives on specualtion..and if you choose to do just that..DONT do it in AYLAS name....she is worth more than that...

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    1. Not once have I heard Angela or Hedi say, If I am wrong then I will fight just as hard for Justice for Ayla as I am fighting to defend Justin. How is anyone destroying there family? LE said NO ABDUCTION,so if anyone is being destroyed it is because they are involved or defending the person that hurt Ayla.In any case of a missing child if LE says foul play,blood in the house,no abduction,they are being lied to,the public is going to be angry.If they dont like it then they shouldnt go public.And it would help if they said if Justin has lied to them,then they will be there for Ayla,they will want JUSTICE.Instead they come up with an excuse for everything Justin does wrong.How is that helping Ayla.

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  22. http://rememberayla.blogspot.ca/

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    1. yeah, that blog sure is about Ayla isn't it? Doesn't it remind you of a few other websites we know. Websites that like to out people and put up pictures of others family members?

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    2. lol shut up grace you flipping lunatic you're the one who stole jenn's blog, wished cancer on her and threatened her you lying psycho

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    3. Jenn has a new blog, she is not JSTL or Charla or Courtney. Grace please do not bring this crap between the two of you onto my blog. I told you I was not picking sides and I did not want this on my blog. I don't give a crap who JSTL is, I did a post previously and stand behind my info that JSTL is Charla. I have had no proof otherwise that I can verify on my own. Jenn is welcome to post on this blog as are you but I will be deleting all nasty comments that are directed at each other. This is about Ayla not about anyone else and I am not having this blog be tainted with what I think is juvenille crap

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  23. What angers me the most is that Ayla has not been found, to be brought home regardless of what happened to her. Someone knows where she is and I am so angry with this person.
    Sooooo sad for Ayla, an innocent little girl who deserved and was entitled to be protected. Someone took that from her, thought so much of themselves that they could discard a child and walk away.

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    1. ITA Chicky! One of the saddest things for Ayla is that the protection and joy she deserved so badly, was taken by those that were supposed to provide it!

      Justin, where is Ayla, this precious angel?

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    2. Chicky, I am very suspicious of the Tudela Manse grounds and those areas have most likely not been searched with dogs. LE would have to have a search warrant and I can't see a judge agreeing to that.

      I also read that the Tudelas also own a hunting cabin or cabins, which I interpreted as being for rent for hunters. Again lots of hiding spots.

      Somehow, Heidi and Angela are not in this for just a boyhood pal of long-ago paper boy, Derek. Angela is most likely protecting her cousin, Heidi, and Heidi, her son, Derek, who has to be intricately involved in something connected to Ayla's disappearance, or, something illegal he was involved in with Peachy which he'd have to reveal in a court of law. It's something which would impact all the Tudelas should Peachy be tried.
      Just my take and not an original thought, at that.
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    3. Maybe the tudelas would give permission without LE having to get a warrent. That would be the right thing to do.

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    4. I think you are right on point PenntAnte. There has to be more to it than helping a friend of your son. Your son, yes I can see that.

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  24. Why is Grace4Ayla using a picture of Tamara Merrill's daughter as her profile pic? Tamara is known to use her daughter's pics also.

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  25. I hope this isn't a stupid question, but why would a judge not agree to the search warrant?

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    2. I would think a judge would agree.

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    3. Idk, they would need some type of concrete evidence. If they can tie Derek to whatever happened via phone pings, etc, that might be enough.

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  26. @anon 8:41pm
    To get a search warrant, you need 'probable cause'. I can't tell you the things that fall under that heading, but LE can't just decide they want to search peoples' homes and properties just on a hunch.

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    2. *Probable Cause*- A Set of facts and circustances that would induce a reasonably intelligent and prudent person to believe that a particular other person has committed a specific crime. Also, reasonable grounds to make or believe an accusation. Probable cause refers to the necessary level of belief that would allow police seizures (arrests) of individuals and full searches of dwellings vehicles, and possessions.

      There is something called the Exclusionary Rule, there are things that fall under this rule..that make it so an officer doesn't need a warrant to search a home, person, etc.

      "The Good-Faith Exception"- U.S. v. Leon (1984) Allowed evidence that officers have seized in "reasonable good faith" to be used in court, even though the search was later rule illegal.

      The Plain-View Doctrine- Harris v. U.S. (1968) Police officers have the opportunity to begin investigations or to confiscate evidence, without a warrant, based on what they find in plain view and open to public inspection.

      Emergency Search of Property/Emergency Entry- Certain Emergencies ( life, Escape, and distruction of evidence) may justify a police officer's decision to search or enter premises without a warrant.

      Domestic violence also falls under the emergency search and entry.

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  28. If MSP showed Justin's family the photo of Ayla's blood with luminol, why they think that Ayla is dead, they might stop supporting him. I still believe that Elisha and Phoebe might be innocent and might have been shown only the 4 drops of blood. If they were told by MSP what Jeff and Trista were told, they might change their minds and stop defending Justin, they might even try to push him to tell the truth. As long as people around Justin believe in him, he's not going to speak, if they stop believing in him, he will lose his shell. And as he has proved it, he doesn't have guts. Losing his defense, he might melt and finally speak. Of course, if Phoebe and Elisha know more than they say and are hiding something, if after being shown the proof that Ayla was harmed in that basement, nothing changes, then that proves that they knew all along

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