Sunday, June 3, 2012

FYI

I really did not want to have to do a post about this. I really did not want this brought onto this blog nor did I want to give JSTL more fodder for her blog but apparently I have no choice.

Jenn invited all of us here at Justice For Ayla to contribute on her blog while she was away. Myself and Jyl opted against it because we have been the ones who have been primarily attacked by JSTL and by us posting on that blog, we knew it just set ourselves up to be attacked more. We decided to decline the invitation. Grace decided to accept it. I have cautioned Grace many times that because her online identity is pretty secure that JSTL decides to attack Jyl and I when Grace goes after her. I have asked Grace to not talk about JSTL on J4A and if she felt she had to go after her, to please only do it on Jenn's blog. While Jenn was away Grace had free reign with the blog. She had asked me if I thought Jenn would be upset with her. I asked her if she asked Jenn for approval before she posted she said she did not. Jenn came back and apparently was not upset with the amount of posts Grace had put on her blog. As far as I was concerned, what happened on that blog was between them and had nothing to do with me.

I received an email from Jenn last night. I knew it was really Jenn and not someone spoofing her email account because the previous emails I had exchanged with Jenn, unrelated to Ayla's case, were attached. Jenn was upset that while she was deleting comments from Obscure on her blog, Grace deleted Jenn's access to the blog. I then received emails from Grace who swore she had ip proof that Jenn is Charla is JSTL is Courtney. I decided to check Jenn's ip info myself and she is not even in the US let alone in TX where I know JSTL is based on her ip address. I am POSITIVE of my findings and Jeff was able to verify through ip hits on AnswersForAyla.com as well. I told Grace I did not want to be brought into this. I did not believe that Jenn was Charla/Obscure/Courtney and that I did not think it was right that Grace removed Jenn from her own blog and took it over. If Grace was concerned that Jenn was Charla/Obscure/Courtney, the proper course of action would have been for Grace to remove herself from the blog not remove Jenn from her own blog.

Grace has emailed me numerous times today. I have responded with the same thing, I did not want to be brought into the middle of this. Grace is now convinced that I am in cahoots with Justin and that I am working with Jenn who is or isn't Charla/Obscure/Courtney. I am so lost and confused but the only thing I DO know is that I made this blog to be about finding Justice for Ayla and I have not responded to JSTL with the exception of the photos I posted of my discharge papers. I was really hoping that Grace would start thinking clearly today and that this would blow over. She would give Jenn back her blog and move on but Grace has now decided that I am her target because I don't agree with her I guess. I have had to remove Grace's access from J4A because I do not want my blog access to be restricted to my own blog. I am posting chat transcript below so you can see what Grace is accusing me of. She apparently has PROOF so maybe JSTL is interested? I don't know. I just know that at this point in time, Grace is no longer associated with J4A. In a few days, Justice for Ayla and Answers for Ayla will be moving to WordPress and will be merged into one blog. It will allow Jeff, the other admins, and I to have more control over who can post on the blog and who cannot. It will also allow us more security over our intellectual property. In the meantime, it will be business as usual here at J4A and with the exception of this post. I ask that from here on out, JustStopTheLies and StartTheLies, as well as Jenn and Grace's issues, not be discussed on this blog.

Thank You



20:33:10 Grace Wilson 
tori, if personal info gets out, I will know who did it
20:33:29 torilgifford@gmail.com 
I don't know and I want nothing to do with it
20:33:34 Grace Wilson 
too late
20:33:45 Grace Wilson 
you have everything to do with it and you know it
20:34:10 Grace Wilson 
tell me now and I will keep you out of this
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20:34:57 Grace Wilson 
let's see you cut and paste and forge that all over the internet
20:40:00 Grace Wilson 
what do you think I said to the police tori?
20:40:15 Grace Wilson 
do you think I told them to go to texas?
20:40:20 Grace Wilson 
or california?
20:40:28 Grace Wilson 
or canada?
20:41:12 Grace Wilson 
all the proof of who jstl is
20:41:21 Grace Wilson 
is right there in that computer, isnt it?
20:41:26 Grace Wilson 
and you are connected
20:41:30 Grace Wilson 
oh yes you are
20:41:33 Grace Wilson 
very connected
20:41:41 Grace Wilson 
to Justin DiPietro
20:41:50 Grace Wilson 
aren't you babygirl?
20:42:29 Grace Wilson 
hey Tori?
20:42:36 Grace Wilson 
WHO IS GRACE WILSON?
20:43:33 Grace Wilson 
Want to know?
20:43:46 Grace Wilson 
THE BITCH WHO TOOK DOWN JUSTIN DIPIETRO
20:44:04 Grace Wilson 
print that on your blog why don't you
20:44:24 torilgifford@gmail.com 
I don't talk to Jenn and I don't talk to Charla
20:44:24 torilgifford@gmail.com 
My guess is that she is threatening you because you stole her blog
20:44:42 Grace Wilson 
you have emails
20:45:26 Grace Wilson 
tori, you can't lie to me
20:45:30 Grace Wilson 
I have the proof
20:45:50 Grace Wilson 
I will not post it online, so you can stop sweating
20:46:05 Grace Wilson 
but after you are arrested? oh buddy!
20:46:35 torilgifford@gmail.com 
Grace I do not have the energy to do this. I am not going to fight with you. I have every right to disagree with you and I do. I asked you NUMEROUS times to lay off Jstl because she attacks me. you chose not to. I am done. Paste what the hell you want online. I am not going to be threatened nor will I be dragged into this period
20:46:56 Grace Wilson 
tell that to LE
20:47:34 torilgifford@gmail.com 
Grace do not message me anymore please. I asked you not to drag me into this
20:50:01 torilgifford@gmail.com 
What the hell am I going to be arrested for? I think you have lost your mind
20:54:34 torilgifford@gmail.com 
Grace seriously you have lost your mind. I am now connected to Justin? You are disgracing an innocent child with your bullshit


108 comments:

  1. this is really sad. I hope she has some family or close friends to help her. And it's also unfortunate that any of you who have been associated with her have to deal with her.

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  2. I'm confused. This is all nuts.

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    1. Yes it is all nuts. It is exactly what I have tried to steer clear of. I really was hoping I did not have to mention it on this blog but now that Grace is doing blog posts about me and sending me threatening im's and accusing me of being in cahoots with Justin, I had no choice. I hope she has someone taking care of her. She is desperately in need of it right now.

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  3. I also think all the astrology charts are crap and take away any validity in the investigation. I'll be happy to see them go.

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  4. I am so sorry that you were brought into this Tori. I will do my best to keep you out of it from now on. I've created a new blog where I will still post about Charla but now I am going to post about the case as well. I hope you will continue to visit and I hope there are no hard feelings. You are a truly wonderful person and it has been a pleasure getting to know you and a few others involved (Jyl, John, Jeff, etc)

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    1. I have to tell you, I was pretty surprised as to what had transpired last night. I had been staying offline except via email on my kindle because I am still so sore and certainly was not expecting this. I am at a loss for words which is hard to do. I do stand behind my belief that Jenn is not JSTL and I am certain but because of Jenn's privacy, I will only say she is not in the US

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    2. you mean she is using a foreign ip addy, a proxy. no proof she is not in the us. let me log out jump on a proxy and viola, im from the uk.....

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    3. Jenn said she lives in California, and is a student there?

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    4. to my head hurts....mine does too by the way...if what your saying is true...then how can anyone determine the location of an IP?...if its that easy to fool everyone by way of 'proxy'...i would imagine a any blog administrator or user for that matter would want to use a proxy for privacy...am i correct??

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    5. I do not know if Jenn is using a proxy or is from outside of the US. I never had any reason to sleuth Jenn because Jenn started a blog that was against JSTL. I have had very limited contact with Jenn. I think it is ridiculous to think that Jenn is Charla is Courtney is JSTL and that I am being forced into working with JSTL because of Justin threatening my family. Grace has a few screws lose. She got some attention while she posted on Jenn's blog and it went to her head and she became a conspiracy theorist. I am glad I saw her true colors sooner rather than later.

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    6. Wow! what the hell happened over the weekend? I've been so busy with my son over the weekend that I have only been able to get online today....I thought Jenn said she was a student here in CA - in fact, she said she went to CSUN, which is down the street from me...unless she is currently out of school and is traveling. It's so weird about Grace though....she was a major contributor on this blog and for someone to turn like that, it's just really strange.

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  5. she is accusing you of being in cahoots with justin? seems weird. we all know you have a relative who used to be his roomie in portland, but other than that wtf? you know I noticed she has been really quite the bitch lately. are you sure it's not someone who is pretending to be her, or she is one of the dips clan who has finally blown her own cover in her own paranoia?

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  6. also someone could be spoofing her ip and fucking wit you.

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    1. Wouldn't she herself know that, and deny what has happened?

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  7. Tori, I hope the stress from this doesn't effect your surgical recovery. I agree..... let's move on and focus on the positive ways that we can help Ayla's family.

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    1. Thanks Jo and I am happy you are going to be apart of the new merged site. :) Anthony is pissed I am on the laptop and says I should not be getting worked up over this but it really pissed me off that someone would accuse me of working with Justin and JSTL when there are over 150 blog posts on here that I have put my heart and soul in that says different all the while putting my own family's safety in jeopardy and watching while they have been exposed by JSTL.

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    2. I know for sure that you are not a justin or jstl fan Tori! Take care of yourself and just a reminder... you are a valuable member in the fight for JUSICE for AYLA.

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    3. Anthony is right. I've had over 22 major surgeries in almost 5 years. I've personally endured the added side effects of unnecessary drama and stress while recovering post-op. Any doctor/surgeon will tell you it can delay healing.

      I don't pretend to understand what took place on that blog, but I think it should be left to them to fight it out, or figure it out, since it does not present a positive way of finding answers & truth for Ayla.

      Thank you for the warm welcome! As I've said, actions speak louder than words. I am about to walk the walk!

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    4. oh i promise you the more rational and not the game players know your heart tori. I will admit to being confused about all that is going on. And I do think crazy and devious are involved in trying to stop people from supporting Ayla's real family. And very much trying to shut this blog down. You really have done a wonderful job and I am afraid some are afraid of you. And they may even be deliberately causing trouble when you need to take care of yourself right now. Someone is being EVIL!

      But, i am more concerned right now, you take care of yourself tonight, like anthony says. Trust us too, Tori, we can be patient and wait till tomorrow or the next day for when you are more up to this. Tomorrow is a new day. I am sorry if I sound so bossy, I just mean to let you know you don't have to worry about us, we care about you. But, I do get your very upset and want to straighten things out right now. I am really upset you have to deal with this today/night.

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    5. I agree Mrs. P.
      Tori has to take care of herself first. And listen to Anthony.
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      Grace, I think, went into a tailspin after her
      the man she posted about died.

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    6. Anon 1:09
      I checked back on the date. The post Grace made was on Monday May 21st. Hmmm, truly I was not even thinking about that. You could very well be right.

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  8. I put on the post before this that Grace is now using Tamara Merril's daughter's pic as her profile. Tamara has taken over a few pages in just that manner.

    Grace is very likely Tamara Merrill=Charla=Jstl

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    1. OMG, IDK, this is sickening... :(

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    2. ITA Kit, just sickening :0

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    3. Here is a link that everyone should read. This letter looks very much like the posts the other night.
      http://scamgirl.blogspot.com/2011/04/open-letter-from-tamara-merrill-to-her.html

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  9. Jenn, I am sorry all of this has happened. It is my sincere hope that, as Tori stated, once this is passed us, we can get back what is important, Answers and Justice for Ayla!

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    1. Tomorrow will be a peacefull day John and hopefully there will be answeres for Ayla soon.

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    2. I agree Chicky. Tomorrow is a new day. Hopefully this will all pass and answers and justice for Ayla will come swiftly.

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    3. so diversionary from Ayla. but, we are not going to let that happen!
      and taking advantage right now that Tori should be taking care of herself and seriously doing their best at aggravating her. I hope Tori realizes we all support her.
      We all know that this blog has been a target all along, and apparently bulling and crazy tactics sometimes work but, not this time!

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  10. Tori, I am deeply sorry for what you're having to deal with and what your family is being subjected to because of the craziness of others. No one in their right mind would believe in a million years that you would have anything to do with Justin or the rest of those low lifes. I, for one, have never thought for a minute that you would stoop so low as to associate yourself with the Dips. Unfortunately, this case has brought out the paranoia in the already certifiably insane people that DO believe the bullshit lies that Justin and the rest of that crew have spewed since the beginning of this case. What's actually happening here is this: Those that have known (online and personal) ties to any one of the Dips, including Courtney, are getting seriously nervous because things are starting to come together, slowly but surely. As they say in my neck of the woods, the shit is about to hit the fan and something tells me that it's going to spatter ALL OVER those boneheads that have supported Justin et al. Do NOT let any of their bullshit upset you....YOU are far better than that....just try your best to ignore as much of it as you can and deal with what you must with your head held high <3

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    1. They are scared and I think it is going to be stepped up to work into the conversation more about a possible accident and a stupid fearful coverup.

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    2. Right on! That is their next ploy. But first they will test the waters by just sticking their big toes in to gauge public opinion.

      Tori, get well and ignore the people behind the Oz curtain.

      __Pennyante

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  11. This is so bizarre I have a hard time following it. It takes a lot of odd reasoning to read this blog as defensive of Justin DiPietro. I had the same thought another poster did- are you sure it is Grace and not an imposter sending those emails? Anyway, I'm sorry you got dragged into this mess, whatever it's all about.

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    1. The e-mails have information attached that was exchanged well before this occured. If the e-mails had been hacked she would have denied them and stated she had been hacked and was not the one sending the e-mails. I hate saying this FC because I consider Grace a friend that has gotten tired and just needs a break to rejuvenate. I Hope!

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  12. We are known by our words...and our actions!
    I think some would do well to remember this.
    Let's keep it about finding answers and justice...
    for AYLA.

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    1. Thank you VTLady, I do hope calmer minds prevail and we can all move on to finding justice and answers for Ayla!!

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  13. This really is completely insane. It is also confusing and unnecessary, to say the least. It has absolutely nothing to do with Ayla, and is not helping her in any way, that I can see. It is pretty sad, when someone thinks they know someone, and comes to trust them, and that person turns out to be dishonest.

    I agree with others, I think it best to move on, move forward, and put the focus on Ayla, where it belongs.

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    1. Kit, this post is not doing Ayla Justice. I agree, but before all this, Jenns blog was keeping the pink blog from wreaking havoc on both this site and A4A. I am hoping this does not change the way the tide was flowing.

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    2. I think that someone is fucking with you Tori! I have many intimate conversations with grace I have given her all my info and shes sent me charts I follow her webpage everyday as well as here I have always known her to be level headed and all for Ayla! I have a hard time believing that the real grace has sent this or done this to you Tori!We all need to figure this out asap!!!!WHO IS GRACE WILSON?WAS OUR GRACE HACKED?i'm getting scared!

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    3. Yes John, ITA! I don't have any issue with this post. I have issues with what caused this post. I so agree, Jenn's original blog was keeping drama from the other blog, away from blogs truly seeking justice and answers for Ayla. I too hope this will not change the way the tide was flowing.

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    4. I'm also concerned about grace. I wouldn't put it past obscure to have broken into graces home, and taken over her computer.

      Also, I have knowledge in mental health. First of all grace seemed at a disadvantage where she may have been alone a lot, along with health issues, etc. She became very involved with this case with no break. She doesn't sleep well. All of this is stress related. I know she was asked several times to take a break, but did not. It's quite possible she isn't thinking clearly. Her attitude also changed over time.

      At the same time, I'm not 100% convinced everyone is who they say they are. Hackers can be quite clever.

      Everyone remember to take breaks, days away from this, etc. if we don't care for ourselves we can't support Ayla.

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    5. Grace used to be nice but now i post an innocent question and she accuses me of being on bath salts or being Justin.

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  14. This whole case is surrounded by highly toxic and infectious psy·cho..........Crazy; insane

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    1. agree, but, in the end it will not work. People will not stop supporting Ayla's mother and real family! People will not stop supporting LE, and the state of Maine to keep looking till they find Ayla.

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  15. Tori, I am so sorry. What a nightmare. I was never a big fan of astrology, so mostly skipped over her posts. But I never saw this coming!

    Concentrate on your recovery and think beautiful thoughts of an arrest coming soon for Ayla's murder.

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    1. I agree McKee, an arrest before the joining of the blogs would be Justice for Ayla!

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    2. I never saw this coming either and for the record, I didn't like the astrology posts either. :) I actually got many emails from upset readers who did not want them on the blog.

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  16. I'm also sorry to see you guys dragged into such craziness, it's ridiculous. Please keep doing what you have been for Ayla, and thank you for making a place for us to come for info and to voice our opinions as well as our frustrations, and to show support for Ayla, Trista and her family.

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    1. I agree, Thank You!

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  17. I'm so lost. This is crazy. Or maybe it's just me. But, what the heck??/

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  18. I figured out a while ago, that Jenn isn't from the U.S., since the [CA] at the end of her blogs web address..kind of gave it away.

    Anyhoo...Grace is off of her rocker. Grace taking Jenn's blog...wtf. Google will have to deal with Grace, since the police won't do shit. The police have nothing to do with internet laws.

    Astrology is crap in the first place...charts and all.

    I wonder if Grace suffers from a mental illness or has dropped acid one too many times, so her brain is now fried?

    I have noticed that this blog..has tried a couple/few times to stop talking about "Pinky with no brain" blog. It is difficult for people to control themselves..when it comes to "that" blog...since she knows how to stir shit up.

    I hope that switching blog hosts works out better.

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    1. Grace Wilson suffers from PTSD, in my opinion, if her stories about her past are true. However I believe it to be more likely she was hacked- hope she will contact Tori in some other form, if she is reading and is innocent!

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    2. She has been contacting me all night, she is Grace and she is certainly not in the right frame of thinking. She is convinced I am someone I am not and that this is a big conspiracy that only she can see. She wrote 6 more posts last night on Jenn's blog regarding this. It is quite sad actually.

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  19. It sucks Jenns blog was hijacked. I liked reading her stuff and when Grace took over I was really bummed. Do you think she will just get a new blog or will she fight Grace for what's rightfully hers?

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    1. Http://rememberayla.blogspot.com and http://start-the-lies.blogspot.com are hers.

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  20. Wow, Tori! That's insane! I know it's not easy to go there. It's sad this is happening. You have a great attitude to keep moving forward. Best of luck....

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  21. Well everybody, let's get back to work for Ayla. Tori, you and yours deserve a vacation! We will all see Justice For Ayla, we can't lose hope! It's only a matter of time. mountain mama

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    1. mountain mama, ITA! I have never lost hope yet, I know it is not fast enough, but, I believe the Law is not going to stop looking for Ayla and neither is anyone going to forget we have to keep supporting them to keep working on Ayla's case.

      "Tori, you and yours deserve a vacation!" How true!

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  22. This is one of the most bizarre things I've every witnessed. In all honesty has anyone actually ever met any of the other bloggers? Not Tori or Jeff I pretty sure your on the level, but Jenn, Grace, Charla. Maybe crazy ass Dip klan created all of them. I'm just saying could it be possible that they are all not what they seem? I'm scared to post because of all this crazyness. It was almost like watching a soap opera unfold before my eyes, but it certainly takes the focus off of Ayla.
    I have a question if Jenn gave control to Grace while she was gone for Memorial Day weekend, why was Grace still posting up until last night anyways?
    Why did Jenn recreate www.start-the-lies.blogpsot.ca only to shut it down shortly after and start rembering Ayla website? Is it just because Jenn added a new agenda to the website, to talk about Ayla's case?
    Thanks for whom ever answers I feel like a DiPetero after trying to keep up!

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    1. Exactly their intent. Intimidate or wear bloggers down by drama and intimidation. Their goal is to make people feel like it is just not worth it to come and share their thoughts and ideas.

      I really hope what ever the deal is with Grace people don't let her get to them. Administratively she is gone from this blog.

      You know I have seen some real nastiness blogging about missing people. Apparently people being emotional about a missing person invites crazies and nasties to come in and mess around. I actually think overall this blog has run amazingly well. And I don't think that this is by accident. There are amazing people here doing their very best to make it the wonderful place it is. Especially considering the amount of energy of the 'opposers' or the people bothered by what is discussed on this blog.

      Hopefully when Jeff and Tori run one blog together it will make the challenges of a blog more manageable and therefore the challenges of talking about Ayla being missing also more manageable.

      Tori above:
      "In a few days, Justice for Ayla and Answers for Ayla will be moving to WordPress and will be merged into one blog. It will allow Jeff, the other admins, and I to have more control over who can post on the blog and who cannot."

      specifically to nick, I cannot answer your questions. I, myself really cannot figure out who is who. So I am in that same boat. As far as Grace maybe she said the right things to make people trust her including Jenn? I know people believed she cared about Ayla and what happened to her. And she was willing to work and contribute. It really does take time to know who people really are. And in person will usually make that easier than on the internet. I keep coming back because most people here are really awesome in my opinion. They are examples of the good guys who care.

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    2. Thank you MsP. for the kind words about the people who are working for Answers and Justice for missing children. I would like to believe that is what we are all here for. It is unfortunate what has happened between Grace and Jenn. I consider both to be friends and I hope that Grace just needs some rest to get back to where she was before. I may not always agree but she always had a slightly different angle to look at things. Thank you for the calming voice MsP., you seem to have a sense when a person needs to hear a kind word to keep going.

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    3. John P! I have genuine respect for the work on Answers and Justice.

      AnonymousJune 4, 2012 1:09 AM - something to think about. I don't think I was paying as close attention as I should have. I really hope you are right about all of this John. I really hope things can be straightened out.

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    4. I did see the post from Anon 1:09 and it had not occured to me either but the comment could hold alot of legitimacy. Her attitude started shifting around that time. I wish there was some way I could help Grace through this period, I really consider her a friend.

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    5. I've met Tori and I've met Jeff. They are real people and they are not any of the other people that some claim.

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  23. If you want to find a specific location/city of a given IP address you can use this tool: http://remote.12dt.com/rns/

    The IP address that Grace used to trace using DNS tracking does say that it is located in Portland, Maine.

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    1. The initial ip address that Grace emailed me when she got the first emails and supposed comments from the ip she suspected was Courtney was from Machias Maine and the one she claimed was from Charla/JSTL came back from Bedminster NJ which was the executive offices of Verizon. I think Grace started popping in random ip addresses in order to make her findings stick. I was the one who informed her that the NJ link was no good because she tracked the ip back to NJ. I also have an email between Jenn and Grace dated on the 2nd of June where Grace is asking Jenn for the ip address from a poster on the blog. If Grace was able to track ip addresses herself how come she didn't have access to them on the 2nd of June? I also am going to post the full header info from email Grace claims is supposedly from Charla and someone can enlighten me if it comes from TX or Maine or wherever...

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    3. J4A etal:

      Grace once had an ip add from Machias? Close to the rumorred Tudela camp? NJ? Courtney's family ties? ........?

      Just think.about it.

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    4. Machias is not near Millinocket and also the IP address she had from NJ traced back to Verizon's Executive offices, feel free to email me and I will email you the screenshot that Grace herself sent me. I think Grace jumped the gun and "thought" she knew how to read ip info but really did not. Also the original ip address she claims is from Charla's email and is JSTL and is her proof isn't even from TX, it came back Witchita KS. I have spent HOURS going over this stuff and it does not add up.

      What really clenched it is Grace accusing me of being Jenn/Charla/JSTL/Courtney and being silenced by Justin. If that isn't enough for someone to realize Grace is not currently playing with a full deck, I don't know what to say

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    5. http://aruljohn.com/info/howtofindipaddress/#yahoo

      This will help you sort out where an email is sent from.

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  24. Who is Jenn and is this the Grace from this blog? WTF is going on with people?

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    1. Jenn was the blogger at Start The Lies until she let Grace have access. And Grace deleted her from her own blog and yes the Grace from this blog.:(

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    2. sorry dear BUT grace is jenn, both alias's and all are really the pychopath Tamara Merill, she has been at it since 2007.

      so many gmail and yahoo accts to count as well as pages for lisa irwin, webslurths, page for kyron and the hinky meter.

      she started the start the lies blog, SHE TOOK OVER HER OWN BLOG and was fucking with your head.
      she also is JSTL

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  25. Tori, are you really really really sure who is friend and who is foe? Something is really fishy with the IP traces. I think you really may have a mole as a Bestest friend.
    Think motives! Who benefits by making us not trust Grace and what she has uncovered. Jenn showed where Grace emailed asking if she was deleting comments. No reply. Then... Instant pissed, you deleted me. Not hey what's going on? Sit back and sleep on it

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    1. I have always had limited contact with Jenn, I have never shared with her any inside info. I let her do her own thing. The only emails exchanged between Jenn and I were of a personal nature and not related to Ayla. I had told Grace the other night that I did not want any part of this and did not want to be involved nor was I picking sides. I had told Grace I did not agree with her findings that JSTL was Courtney because for starters the ip she pulled off the supposed email from Charla came back from Witchita KS and not TX. Also the ip address from the supposed comment left on Jeff's blog (which Grace does not have admin access to so not sure how she got it) was from Machias Maine and not Portland Maine. There was nothing tying the ip to Courtney except Grace's own imagination. I am positive that my ip address for Jenn is correct. I not only tracked it from the email header info on 2 different emails addresses for Jenn but also from a comment left on J4A last night and a comment left on A4A that was forwarded to me from Jeff which matched the ip I pulled last night.

      Jenn could very well be JSTL/Courtney/Charla, my problem with the whole thing was that Jenn invited Grace access to her blog on Jeff's recommendation that we were trustworthy and could help her out while she was away. Grace stole Jenn's blog out from under her and when I asked Grace about it, she still does not think she did anything wrong because Jenn gave her admin access. I had given Grace admin access so how did I know she would now do the same to me? Even if Jenn is really Angela Harry or Heidi, the blog did not belong to Grace and if Grace had questions about Jenn's motives or identity, the respectful thing to do would be to remove herself from the blog. I learned a lot about Grace's character at that point.

      Jenn does not have access to J4A so I have nothing to protect myself from and Jenn isn't gaining anything by this. Jenn didn't make me distrust Grace, Grace made me distrust Grace. I continued with Grace's access to J4A until Grace sent me the above im's that are from Grace and not hacked or photoshopped as Grace claims.

      Before I posted this Grace did a blog post about me on the Start The Lies blog which was nasty and threatening. I then decided to delete her access and cut ties with her. Not because of anything that happened between her and Jenn but because of what Grace did to me and her actions. Grace then had the nerve to email me AFTER she sent me the nasty im accusing me of helping Justin and being JSTL and AFTER the nasty comments about me on the STL blog insinuating that my husband was silencing me and I am a part of the conspiracy and am responsible for Ayla's death and asked me why I restricted access to HER blog referring to J4A. Grace is crazy and I do not want to have people that unstable be associated with this blog. It is unfortunate but it is what it is and apparently Grace needs to take a step back from blogging and deal with her own mental health.

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  26. Oh Tori. I'm so sorry sweetie!
    I sound like the church lady but there is some serious evil out there that doesn't like the truth & the goodness in this blog.

    I don't know what else to call it. I've never seen anything like this!

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  27. What in all holy hell has gone? Mass hysteria!!!!! Wtf? :o

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    1. That's pretty much how I feel Shannie!

      This is like a bad twilight zone episode.

      I don't even think Stephen King could have wrote a story as twisted as this one.

      Why are people bent on !NOT! helping Ayla?

      I don't get it.

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  28. Holy crap.....holy effing crap!!!!! :o

    Man, sorry Tori. :( wtf??????

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  29. Justin is a LOser!!!!I believe in Karma ..Screw the lowlife that just want to start trouble!!!!This is About Ayla and the poeple who love and miss her dearly..What don't you loser go find something to do..Maybe go play in the rain..You are just causing more stress on the poeple who are her for Sweet little Ayla...My best advice is to act like you dont even say A word this childish folks..

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  30. Ray is incarcerated in machiasport so it would route thrugh machias.

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    1. Why would Ray being in Machiasport in Prison no less have anything to do with Courtney's ip address coming back from Machias? What does Ray have to do with Courtney and why would someone's ip route through a prison?

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    2. I don't know anything about IP addresses but can someone who is computer savy make it to look like it came from elsewhere, or reroute or something. Having it seem like it came from Machias could be just to confuse matters more and make it seem like Trista and Ray are part, or the cause of this mess?

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    3. I thought the same as anon, J4A! Lower security inmates could possibly have internet access? (? I dont KNOW- but they get educational opps/ hot showers/ free cable/ 3 square...better than much of the general population)

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    4. So how would Ray be connected with Courtney since Grace is claiming that Courtney is in Machias and is working with the JSTL blogger. So you are saying that Ray is really pretending to be Courtney and is working with JSTL to bring down Trista? Seriously?

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    5. BTW, Prisons and Federal Institutions like Banks etc have secure ip addresses that start with 1. - 100. and they are private and cannot not be traced so there is no way that the ip address came back to the jail

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    6. perhaps courtney, knowing ray is in machiasport, is posting from there to make itlook like him or it's and inmate using a visitors phone to post?

      PS-Grace wilson is a fake name. the real name is tamara merril, she is a scammer and has inserted herself into many child cases and blogs. grace most probably is the JSTL BLOGGER, USING A PROXY. she accused tori when she herself is behind shit. she prob also started the rumour of the trista/ayla sighting , again using a proxy.

      so 'grace' tamara admits SHE IS WORKING WITH COURTNEY AND HAS PULLED THE WOOL OVER TORI'S EYES. SHE I BUSTED!!!

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    7. AND DON'T BE SUPRISED IF BOTH COURTNEY AND 'GRACE'/TAMARA LOG INTO THE SAME ACCT AT DIFF TIMES.ALSO TAMARA'S DAUGHTER BRITTANY---EXPLAINS THE SPLIT PERSONALITY DISORDER

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  31. Can inmates even access the internet???

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    1. I wondered that myself. I would say no?

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    2. The answer would be yes from the prison library. That is unless they have been convicted of a computer related crime, then it is restricted for the length of the sentence.

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  32. Not sure, but apparently mental patients can..... :/

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  33. I think this SUCKERPUNCH has left us all feeling hurt, betrayed, angry, shocked, suspicious, sad and vulnerable. We will heal in time, and hopefully learn to trust again (guarded trust). mountain mama

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    1. I think it's a great reminder not to trust anyone on the internet and protect your personal information! That's why I use anonymous!

      I feel like a spectator at a tennis match!

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  34. grace4ayla is scammer-tamara meriil/britanny merilJune 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    right click on the pics to get the info. the girl is brittany,tamara's daughter. GRACE WILSON IS A MADE UP ALIAS.


    Grace4Ayla said...
    Justin beat Ayla to death. This is why he cannot collect the LIP.

    Sun Jun 03, 05:45:00 PM EDT
    Anonymous said...
    Wow! Do you really think that we don't know how to search and find that your profile is Brittany Merrill, daughter of Tamara J. Merrill. I knew you were in the mix, but infiltrating Tori's blog when she has worked so hard and been so fair-minded to all? Really?

    check the photo down a bit, it matches the blogger acct pic
    http://scamgirl.blogspot.com/2011/04/shes-judge-world-class-surfer-famous.html
    brittanym.jpg

    found on statement analysis
    GRACE4AYLA blogger acct
    http://www.blogger.com/profile/11886911586034967807
    brittanym.jpg

    other id's
    hatessciopaths-websleuths
    her blogs/pages

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    1. I'm so sorry Tori, I would imagine that this must be so hard for you. Especially coming when you are trying to recover from major surgery. Make Anthony buy you your favorite treat! ;)
      Her pic is Brittany, but Tamara has a history of using her daughter's pictures. Scamgirl posted all about it in April 2011.

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  35. I have complained about Grace several times because she deleted my posts and then denied it. But I knew it was her because Tori, you said you hadn't deleted anything. I just stayed quiet about it because I was confused about what was going on at that time.

    Now after reading "Grace's" rants, it is clear that Obscure is certifiable because she lied and pretended to be Grace, but their postings are virtually the same type of lunacy and hatred. I refuse to comment further on either of her aliasas.

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  36. So Tori, what in the hell is going on here. Have we all been had by grace or is grace being had? Are all the negative posts at JSTL coming from this Tamara person? Does everyone who sent Grace an email have something to be worried about? OMG!! Poor Ayla, what a bloody shame. Im so sorry Tori that you seem to be catching the brunt of this crap.

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    1. Glad I didn't send her an email. She was sane the other day, and now she's a raving cruel lunatic. She has not denied it so it is her.

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  37. This clusterfuck would make an awesome book! 50 Shades of WTF!

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  38. I disagree with all the Tamara info. I believe grace is who she says she is.

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  39. Maybe she hasn't "denied" it because she cant. Maybe someone has rerouted all of her posts?

    Why are you protecting Ray- whose in prison? Does he even have a dog in this race?

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  40. Honestly, I don't know who to believe anymore!

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  41. When did T Merrill in CA become CPA from Kileen, TX and then go back to being TM again?

    This has nothing to do with Ayla Your going to lose readers!

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  42. Anon 5:26 PM, this one thread is about what took place, the other threads are about Ayla. If this thread isn't your cup of tea, there are other threads. In fact, lots of threads about Ayla. Enjoy them.

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  43. doncha. Think ray might be pissed trista was still bangin justin. Courtney an ray partners in jealosy. So maybe court goes to machias to give him a bj to get even or fill his head with shit.

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  44. Grace is tamara merrill jenn is brittany her daughter.both from ca. Tamara is certfibly nuts doped up on mental meds. Looks like she had another psychotic episode.she hasn't slept in several days. May have run out of meds again.

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  45. So much Drama! Got on with it everyone is an adult and should act like it. Stop smoking the bad pipe!

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