Thursday, May 3, 2012

Time to Refocus!

It has almost been 5 months since Ayla Reynolds was last seen. There have been no sightings of her, no leads, no confirmed suspects. Our hope is waning. We fear that not only will Ayla not be found but that those responsible for taking her away from her family will never be brought to Justice.We fear that Ayla's mother will always be left with unanswered questions, that she will never know the truth as to what happened to her once vibrant, happy, beautiful little girl.

Many of us who have been touched by Ayla's story would do anything to alleviate Trista's pain. We have donated money, held vigils, passed out flyers, business cards, bracelets... We talk about her to our friends, our neighbors, the clerk at the convenience store where we buy our gas, on facebook, on blogs, etc. to keep her name out there and to raise awareness but we still feel helpless because we cannot give Trista one of two things she really wants, Ayla brought home alive or the truth as to what happened to her daughter. We can sit and discuss theories and speculate as to what we believe happened. We can ask questions and point out discrepancies. We can put pressure on those responsible by showing that we are relentless in our efforts to bring Ayla home. We can show that we are not going to go away, we are not going to give up. Even though our hope is waning, we still have hope. 

From the day Ayla was reported missing I have seen people do some pretty wonderful and amazing things. They spent their lunch breaks looking for a lost little girl, they donated their time, their money, their resources all in the hopes of bringing Ayla home. They braved the icy waters, they searched in the bitter cold, trudging through snow while their own families ate dinner without them. They attend vigil after vigil, benefit after benefit trying to do anything they possibly can to help Ayla and help her family. As this case drags on, I have also seen the worst in some people. People fighting over names and numbers, people attacking other people because they chose to believe one side or the other is responsible for Ayla's disappearance, people who have inserted themselves into this case not because they are a member of this community or know someone involved or even were touched by Ayla's story but because they enjoy causing misery. People who got involved just because they enjoy preying on others just to see the reaction they get, people who do it for the shock value, knowing that emotions are running high in this case. People who attack those who just want to help a mother of a missing toddler get one of the two things she wants most in this world, her daughter home or the truth.  

In a case like this it is expected that anyone involved in Ayla's life regularly will be discussed. The family, paternal and maternal, are going to be dissected. Their friends and relatives who speak out for them will have their statements scrutinized, anyone who has had access to Ayla and could possibly have done her harm or taken her will be questioned, not only by the police but also by the public in an attempt to try to understand the who, what, why, when, and where. Anyone who publicly defends either parent has to know going in to any interview runs the risk of having their story questioned, their motives examined, their character investigated. Pictures released online and in the media and social media websites are going to be gone over with a fine-toothed comb. Bloggers and website administrators who devote pages to anyone involved in a high profile case have to know going into it that people will also question their motives, is it about money or notoriety or something else entirely? People who blog anonymously have to expect to some degree that people are going to want to know the person's true identity because they can't accurately assess anyone's motives and true intentions without it. Ayla's case is not the first case in history where the above has all happened nor will it be the last. Anyone who claims ignorance at these facts are either extremely naive or have never watched a high profile case on the news or read about any in a book or publication. 

What should not be expected is having innocent people who have nothing to do with this case other than being related to a blogger or facebook page administrator be potentially put in harm's way because their picture, personal information such as addresses or phone numbers were shared by someone other than themselves. What should not be expected as fair game is having minor children's faces and names plastered along with their addresses especially when they are not even old enough to read a blog, let alone write one. What is not acceptable is running a deceased loved one's name through the mud in attempt to harass and attack someone who is saying something you do not agree with.

I knew when I opened up my blogger account that people were going to attempt to find out who I was. I was prepared to take that risk. I knew that once I started to write my theories and speculations down on a public site that things would go one of two ways, either people would read because what I had to say was thoughtful, intelligent and backed by facts and truths or that people would not read what I had to say because my opinion was not valid to them. I weighed out whether or not getting to the truth about Ayla and what happened to her was worth any minor embarrassment on my part because of any of my indiscretions and I decided that I would take that hit for Ayla and I have and I would again, proudly. I did not expect that my family would be attacked maliciously because I expected that people who were blogging, even those with differing opinions would be able to be adults and show some civility and have healthy debates over issues with theories they did not agree with. I expected that people knew the difference between a "blog war" (which I might add is a ridiculous term especially when there is only one side doing all of the attacking) and cyberbullying and harassment. I did not expect that others who contribute to my blog would also have their personal information used against them and have their families, again who have nothing to do with the blog or Ayla's case, dragged through the mud.

One thing that I keep being reminded of is "When you can't refute the message, you attack the messenger". Justin claims that he is innocent in any and all wrongdoing and has no idea what happened to Ayla, I think he is lying and Trista needs to look no further than Justin to find the answers to her questions. People are judged by their associations and Justin's aunt and best friend frequent the blog where the blogger feels that it is morally and ethically okay to use someone's family against them to prove a point and to make inflammatory comments while impersonating someone, that tells me that Justin too has issues with ethics and morality and that he condones this behavior. That speaks volumes about his character and the character of people he surrounds himself with. It also tells me that the more they attack me or others who add to this blog whether by contributing through posts or comments, the closer we must be getting to the truth. The more that they attack, the more hope I have that Trista will get her answers and the truth will be revealed and Ayla will be brought home, in whatever capacity that may be.

We published a post a few weeks ago that we did not want JSTL discussed on this blog. We didn't want her mentioned in the comments or the content of her posts discussed here anymore. We were taking the high road. We have faltered from time to time and let comments slide that we shouldn't have, we let our emotions get the best of us, again, and allowed comments and discussion after our personal information was shared but we have not directly addressed her nor have we released any more private information that we have received via email about her online as she claims we have. We have not participated in her blog war for weeks now. No one who contributes on this site is the blogger at Start The Lies. No one from this site set up any twitter or myspace accounts for this blog or any other blog or person other than our own personal ones. With that being said, I am going to request again that we please keep this site focused on Ayla and what could have happened to her and not focused on that other blogger. If Google allows her to reopen her blog and she continues to post our personal information so be it, we will continue to go through the proper legal channels to rectify it. If you see something posted there that you feel we should be concerned about, email us privately. Most of our readers here don't even visit that site and will only go there if someone mentions it so please don't mention it. You can reach me through email.  If you want to discuss that blog or blogger, please do so at Start The Lies but not at this website nor on Jeff's website Answers For Ayla. Thank you all for understanding and thank you all for your support.




















142 comments:

  1. I'm glad everyone can put their egos a side and this blog can be all about Ayla.
    So is it safe to think that Justin is done with everything like talking to LE and the media and he is just going to hide now for good? Maybe he will say something when the trial starts but I think if he doesn't have to talk he is done with it. If I was in his shoes and I was innocent I wouldn't hide and hide information from LE. I would be out everyday looking and asking the person who has my baby to please let her come home and I would be calling LE everyday to find out if they know anything and what they are doing to find her. That's one of the many reasons I think Justin is guilty.

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    1. Mrs Smith, I think the key to your statement is "If I was in his shoes and I was innocent"! I think any true parent would feel the same as you!!!

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    2. Betty from BangorMay 3, 2012 at 10:47 PM

      IMHO-What kind of life could they possibly have now? Jumping every time they hear a little noise? Afraid to even go out to the store? Do any traveling- at night only? Watching over their shoulder for any movement? I would think after all this time, someone would crack! Not being able to sleep? Not even being able to look in a mirror because of what a dispicable shit they are? Do they think this is just going to blow over? No Way!!!! Worrying about rather they will ever see their own children again? We will never give up until we learn the truth about this precious little girl!! AYLA!!

      WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH!

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    3. Could someone tell me if this is the blog for Team Truth?

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    1. I second that!

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    2. J4A, I will try my best to not be baited again. This is very well writen. I am reminded of a saying from a great man, "say it is so, believe it will be, so it is". Ayla Must Come Home!

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    3. Thanks Everyone! I am glad you liked it. Originally it was going to be a guest submission on Adam's blog www.WhereisAyla.blogspot.com but in light of what happened yesterday I reworked it for this blog.

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    4. Did you do the Day of Prayer on Adams blog yesterday as well? I did read it and it was very well writen and spot on for Ayla. Whichever of you wrote it, it was touching!

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    5. Nope, I have not contributed anything to Adam's blog yet although he is patiently waiting for me to submit something. I did ask him if he wanted to submit the post that you and I discussed doing via email as a guest submission on this blog and he is working on it now. He is an amazing young man that I am thankful that I got to know, Ayla brought so many wonderful people into my life and I will always be grateful to her for that. She truly is a little angel.

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    6. I definateely have to second that thought J4A. The bloggers and commenters here have become friends I won't soon forget. Ayla also brought me in contact with Jeff and though it was brief, I found a man I respect. She truely is an angel of love and caring.

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  3. So the interview with phoebe lieing I think Some people still think she told them after the interview that she did lie but it was the next day that she came clean about it. I'm glad they didn't take that out of the interview because there is some importance to it speachaly if she or anyone in that house had something to do with what happend to Ayla. And how she told her that she lied is questionable to me who would say it like that and in so many ways/words that they lied? I know exactly what people mean when they say "so many ? And few answers"

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    1. According to Susan Candiotti, the person who interviewed Phoebe, she did not call for TWO days after the interview to set the record straight. Justin defenders claim she corrected it right after the interview and that the media did not edit the interview because they wanted it to be more sensational. I posted links to the article in a past blog post, I will look for them and post them on this thread

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    2. Yeah even if she did come clean right after the interview I wouldn't change it ether. Phoebe knew whatever she was going to say people will read about it and end up learning the truth anyways even if it was during the trial instead. Plus it's the medias job to make things more interesting to read about and more so if it adds more drama to it by doing so.

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    3. I agree. What would they even say?

      Here is an interview, BUT it's full of lies...?

      I do not believe she told them right away though.

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    4. I thought the reporter that did the interview said she told her the next day.

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    5. Either way, it is being put out by family, that Phoebe told her RIGHT AWAY. Right after the interview. I personally don't remember if it was the next day or two days later, but I remember Susan Candiotti explaining about Phoebe confessing about the lies. If you watch it, it does not appear Susan Candiotti is lying.

      It's amazing how everything is always someone elses fault. The bottom line is, Phoebe lied.

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    6. People that are innocent don't have any reason to lie. Telling the truth is very simple. If you tell the truth there is no reason to backtrack and change your story. IF your child or grandchild has been kidnapped out of your home and you had absolutely nothing to do with it, there is NO reason to lie! Phoebe lied. She did try to correct the lie, but again, if you are completely innocent, there is no reason to lie to begin with. Liar, liar, pants on fire!

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    7. And further Kit, the reason they give for the lie was police told her not to talk about who was in the house. She could simply say "I can't answer that right now"! Done, over no lies!!

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    8. If that fat wad told Canditotti right after the interview they would have made it even more of a big deal and the headlines would have been "Missing girl's Gmom states she wasn't there immediately after lying that she heard nothing!"

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    9. Susan Candiotti said that Phoebe corrected herself the day after the interview aired. That would have been two days after the initial interview. Phoebe took her aside the last morning they were there, after being stood up by Justin I believe (IIRC).

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    10. Oh, ok! Thanks G4A! That explains the mix up. In hearing the day after the interview AIRED, led me and probably others to think it was the next day from the actual interview.

      And yes, I very well rember her being stood up by Justin. He left to go hang flyers, knowing he was supposed to interview. Strange.

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    11. I agree John P. There would really be no NEED to lie. I think she either discussed it with her family and they told her she better "fix that" and/or I don't think she herself, realized until after the interview just how bad it was going to look, especially to LE. LE, who stated that they did not tell them not to talk about the case. At that time LE was "going easy" on them and even said maybe there was some confusion. Well, even IF there WAS, where has Justin, Phoebe, Elisha and courtney been, after the "confusion" was cleared up.

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    12. You are 100% correct with that Kit!!!

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  4. I should probably address this in an Email, but prefer not to do that.

    Please feel free to delete this.

    JMH's private info, including business info is on the blog Start The Lies, if she isn't aware.

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  5. Great post!!! I hope Trista and her family are OK through all of this and know there are many thousands of people who support them.

    Now ... any news about how long it might take to hear back about the test results on the items found in the river?

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    1. There was a commenter who read it may be next week before the news is back. It is also said there is a GJ sceduled next week so there may be no news until after the GJ. Just a guess, nothing confirmed.

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    2. As soon as Jeff and Trista know anything about the items found they will post it and let us all know. You all will be the first to know, I promise :)

      Someone said that the DA does not prosecute murder trials, that would be the Attorney General so the DA story is probably moot

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    3. J4A, I believe the AG would be trying this case, so hopefully there is some truth to the GJ story. It may be that all the evidence is not yet back from the lab yet either. In any case, the next week or so is going to unfold many things for Ayla, hopefully!

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  6. I tried to post this earlier, here’s hoping it works this time.
    Does anyone know who took the video of Ayla dancing in front of the TV, I’m assuming it was taken at the DiPietros home. The video does not include audio except for a bit of music from what could be a Christmas show. My impression is that Ayla seems to be quite content and does not seem to be afraid of whoever is taking the video. On the video of Ayla and Gabby playing in the tent, again no audio, Ayla seems to be using her feet to prevent gabby from moving about. In this video Ayla seems to be keeping an eye on whomever is taking the video, she does not seem as relaxed as in the dancing video. As well, from all the pics I see taken with the DiPietros Ayla seems more fearful of the person behind the camera. Do we know who took those pics? I remember that look from when my kids were little, they were pretty good at letting me know just by the “Help me Mom” expression on their little faces who I needed to keep away from them. The thing that has been eating at me is the pics with Justin, Phobe, Lance and even Courtney don’t put me in mind of a child that is terribly afraid of the person they happen to be sitting with, but they do make me feel like whomever is behind that camera is the one she is fearful of.
    Perhaps I have been looking at them all wrong. Any thoughts?

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    1. Lin, I checked spam folders and everything and I couldn't find any posts. I am not sure why yours are disappearing. I apologize for that. I appreciate what you have to say and am sorry to think that some of your comments are not appearing.

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    2. Thanks J4A, its probably me doing something wrong. LOL not to worry its working fine now. And by the way....your doing a wonderful job, you all are. The world would be a much better place for the children if all adults would put children first no matter what. Bravo and thanks so very much, all of you

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    3. Thank you! :) It is certainly nice to hear those things especially after the week we have all had here. We appreciate all of you and wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for the support we get from all of you. JMH was really upset today and was comforted by many of you and that made all the difference in the world to her. We have the utmost respect for all of you. :)

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    4. My granny used to say, when you roll with the skunks pretty soon you start smelling like them and when you don't.....You Don't. What you all are doing here is drawing the fire FOR Ayla, to bring her home. The uglier the skunks get, the closer you are to the truth. So as granny used to say, suck it up buttercup and do what needs to be done. It sounded much better when I was a kid lol but I think you get my meaning right.

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    5. Thank You Lin, As for your initial comment, I have heard from more than one person that Elisha was jealous of Ayla because she was taking the attention away from Ayla. I have heard that Lance has said this directly to 3 people who have reported it to me. Ayla does look worried and uncomfortable in the pictures released by Selena and I can understand one or two pictures in a set where she is not smiling but not EVERY picture in the set. I have long thought that Elisha was resentful to Ayla and mean to her and that she is the one responsible for whatever happened to Ayla. :(

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  7. I heard probably next week. It will be frustrating if next week, they say it wasn't related to the case.

    Are there any new leads besides the river items?

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    1. Thanks, for answering, Anon 6:53! Tough to think of Trista having to wait another week. : (

      As for your question about new leads besides the river items, I haven't heard of any.

      But that doesn't mean there haven't been lots of new leads generated by Trista's recent admissions ... MSP may have quite a few, but may have decided not to release then at this time. If that's the case (and I hope it is!) I'm sure they have very good legal or strategic reasons to withhold them.

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    2. There is rumors of a GJ next week also. If this case goes to GJ, it could be even longer until the results are known.

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  8. I agree that focus should remain on Ayla and her case. I think that this blog should remain about Justice for Ayla.

    I do check the other blog, but I try to keep my comments about it at STL. If I mentioned it here and offended anyone, I'm sorry. :(

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    1. I was never offended Kit, I just think the only way to truly get that blog to go away is to ignore her. Of course she is going to invent things to cause drama, she did with the supposed emails and now she is by trying to convince everyone that the STL blog is run by me or someone here because the blogging template (1 out of 5 possibly options lol) is the same. I used to read there because sometimes she posted things that were thought provoking but she has turned her blog into being all about me and now JMH and now it is no longer relevant to this case. Sorry to mention her again, I debated on responding to this comment yesterday and didn't but wanted to today. :)

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  9. I have missed some things on this case as I am very busy with a new baby, but where was phoebe that night of? I know she lied about it, but not sure where she said she was and where she really was?

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    1. She never said where she was its a mystery.

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    2. Thanks for the reply. This whole case is so crazy to me! Every night when I lay down in bed with my 2year old I can't help but wonder what happened to that poor girl and how sad her mother must be. This is the only case that has ever caught my attention like this.

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    3. Rumor has it that she was at a hotel with a married lover. I have NO idea if that is true or not. However, LE has said that they know where she was but are not disclosing that. That usually only happens when they are protecting an innocent third party. LE, as far as I've been told, did an extensive search at a Waterville hotel. . .including the dumpsters there. This leads me inclined to believe that the rumors are true. Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

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    4. This is purely speculation. In no way is this a fact or supported by evidence.

      Has anyone else wondered why Heidi is so supportive of Justin. What does Justin (or his family) have on the Tudelas for them to put thier livlihoods on the line for Justin? (See above post)

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    5. I think that mostly comes down to Derek. Possibly being involoved? Helping with the cover up? Plus the hinky LIP.

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    6. Not to mention his play date...

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    7. Hi John P!- I have been wondering that for a while. IMO she's way too defensive of JD to simply cover for her son who sold JD the LIP. I really think LE should search their properties, there has to be reason she is so defensive...

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    8. Let me add to my statement. If Derek learned from his father, why has his father not come out to defend the LIP that Derek sold. Why has his father not said anything? Just speculation again based on the rumor above.

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    9. Kit, could the playdate be an attempt to cover-up for dad?

      Heather, I agree the sale of the LIP by Derek is not enough to put your entire families future on the line for. Insurance fraud is minor compared to a families lifelong reputation.

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    10. Hmmm. I don't know John P. No one's fathers from that side of Ayla's family/friends are coming forward. Not even her own. :(

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    11. I guess I am being to vague, I don't know how to ask without it sounding stupid. I guess I am reading to much into it but

      Could Dereks father have been either

      A. the married man having the affair with Phoebe, or
      B. (a real big stretch) one of the three's bio-dad based on a previous affair with Phoebe.

      See I told you it was silly. It is just his whole family has been placed in a spotlight and he says absolutely nothing????

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    12. Oh I see... Usually I get "vague", sorry I didn't catch on.

      That's possible, but I'm not too sure about it. That would def. be strange for them to then have Phoebe staying at their mansion, while LE had Phoebe's house.

      It's not silly, especially when NO ONE is saying anything about anything. All that's left is speculation.

      I think I remember mention of Phoebe living elsewhere when her kids were smaller. Other state(s)? Near a Marine base?

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    13. your probbly right Kit, It would explain alot though, and if Heidi is willing to do this much for JD, I would think she would be willing to put Phoebe up temporarily if it meant keeping thier skeletons in the closet. I just know if I was the man of the house, my families future would not be in jeopardy without me saying a whole lot about it. That is of course I had something big to hide!

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    14. You know John, a simple task would clear up that question. Put pics of each one side by side. Genetics don't lie. Although I cant imagine Mr. T would be "into" Miss Phebs. Oh now John I'm gonna have that visual stuck in my head. BLAHH.

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    15. Sorry for putting that image in there Lin. From my military days, I will say that the soldiers under my supervision were not all that choosey when having affairs. I am just saying what I saw in a combat zone. That is a very different lifestyle, not that I condon it. Wrong is wrong but I did see alot of wrong doing..

      I would think that the younger photos of both would be better judges of character also. I don't have those photos to compare.

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    16. No worries John, there are times when short term memory is a good thing. Thank you for your service John, I come from a long line of military folks.

      I'll search my files for some pics....now if I can just remember where I put them......

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    17. Kit- Phoebe lived for a brief period of time in California (can't remember where, ?20 palms), Selena said on a site that PD was trying to get away from things. Interestingly enough, it was rumored she was associated with another murder case in the 90s in WV--2 people (involved in a cocaine ring) were inside a house that was burned to the ground. I wondered if she left in relationship to that case....would be an interesting post for J4A IMO.....
      JP-Keep working the TD angle!

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    18. Heather, you are not making it easy for me to get this thought out of my head. When my bio-donor decided he longer wanted to be with the kids he brought into the world, he moved to Cali to avoid child support. Way back then, Cali did not enforce other state ordered child support. With that said, is it possible what Phoebe was trying to get away from was having a child with a married man, that he would not acknowledge? Just more speculation. Dam this thought is driving me crazy trying to figure out why Heidi is so protective of Justin?

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  10. I see sadness, worry, and confusion in the pics. It's like I cam hear Ayla thinking, "Where's mommy?" Trista once said Ayla still got up in the night, and she'd have a bottle ready. I know I don't know for sure but... I don't think there were any friendly faces with a bottle ready, waiting and listening for her to get up in the night. It's terribly sad :(

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    1. Yes Libby, I too see a sad little girl and looking at her pictures while in the Dipietros house it is painfully obvious that she is not the happy little girl she was while with her mommy. It just seems that she really does not like the person taking the pictures. The look in her eyes......it hurts me to the core.

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    2. Its very sad. She is such a beautiful little girl. I don't see anyone could ever harm her. Words cannot express how much I think about Ayla. I am sure we all feel the same.

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    3. So true Steph, just so so sad.

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    4. ITA Libby.

      I think whenever Ayla did see or talk to Trista, it later caused problems for Justin, as far as Ayla missing her Mommy. I don't think he knew how to handle that and the other adults probably didn't care. Phoebe had her own daughter to take care of, courtney had her son to take care of, and from what I've seen from Phoebe, I don't see a loving, caring Grandmother.

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    5. I agree Kit that it was probably quite difficult for Ayla each time she saw/talked to mommy. I am sure that no one in that house had the slightest inkling that keeping Alya from mommy was one of the worst forms of abuse an adult who should know better could do to a child. It is obvious that everyone in that house cared more about themselves than the fragile state of mind of a child who just wanted to go home. I remember feeling that lost as a child and its just to difficult to think about. I still believe in happy endings, I guess.

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    6. Oops sorry. I meant to say Elisha had her daughter to take care of, not Phoebe (although that might be true too).

      Yes Lin that is abuse. It is cruel. It appears they cared more about themselves, money and possibly control or some type of vindictive "punishment" toward Trista. I'm sorry that you had similar feelings as a child. No child should have to feel that way.

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    7. Thanks Kit, you had it right Phoebe is taking care of/protecting her daughter.

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    8. I simply cannot imagine what Ayla went through, seeing Mommy at that last orthopedic appointment.

      She probably was overcome with relief, thinking:
      "Everything's Okay now, Mommy is here. I get to go home!"
      ...Only to be handed right back to Justin, again.

      And, being 19-20 months old, when she saw that Mommy was giving her BACK to this monster, she likely didn't have the ability to VERBALIZE what she wanted to say---What she NEEDED to say---in order to make Trista understand what was going on!

      Every time I think of this exchange from Ayla's perspective, I am overcome with an almost indescribable feeling of dread---like being on the verge of hyperventilation, or something.
      It must have been horrible for her.

      I cannot fathom the selfishness required of Justin, to tear Ayla out of her mother's arms at the end of that last attended doctor's appointment, and drive away with her.
      Evil beyond words.

      :'(

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  11. Well this is nice to read it does suck that a certain site cannot be mentioned at all. Not to keep this war goIng on, but of there is an idea or valid statement made over there. This will and can end it though.
    I was reading a statement or article a while back about Waterville's District Attorney and why some people think there hasn't been a conviction yet. Does anyone have thoughts on this?

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  12. I personally think that they are waiting until they have enough concrete evidence to put them away for a very long time. Some things won't hold up in court, so the authorities are waiting till everything's in place, I am hoping the items found in the river will be the last piece to their puzzle.

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  13. Yeah I know that they need hard concrete evidence so they don't fuck up like the Casey Anthony case.
    ( sorry for the language, but that bitch straight up got away with murder and the whole country knows it)
    I just don't want the same thing to happen because of lack of evidence towards whom ever perpetrated this crime.
    Don't quote me on this.
    I heard that they were waiting because of something about it being an election year. They could use it towards their advantage because it's a high profile case the whole country wants solved. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. I can't remember where I read it. They made it seem like the DA didn't want to take on such a task or some bullshit and that it could help a new DA get the case.
    I seriously said WTF when I heard that. Has anyone else heard this or was this some wild ass crazy ass conspiracy theory.
    And does anyone know if Waterville has a permanent DA?

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    1. Yea I believe Casey Anthony was horribly guilty in that case. I have not heard what you said about the election. It sounds completely messed up! You would think they would be worried about just putting the person behind bars that did something to her. As for the DA in Waterville, I am not sure, I am from the Bath area in Maine, it's a little ways from there, so different courts. I just really thought blood and the lies told would be enough evidence? I mean how much more do they really need??

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    2. Waterville has an interim DA until November when a new one will be voted in. By the way here is the link to the articles stating it took 2 days for Phoebe to correct the story.

      http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2012/03/phoebe-matriarch-of-dipietro-family.html

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    3. I hope this doesn't mean this case is just going to lay dormant then (in regards to the interim DA)

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    4. Just because there is an interim DA, does not mean the the case can not be tried. This is false.

      There are ADA's (Assistant District Attorney) and they are in Superior Court because they can try all Superior Court charges including murder. In fact, to assume that the DA handles all the murder cases is untrue. Usually it would be the higher profile cases that the DA handles because they are responsible for running the office, the staff, overseeing cases, charge reductions to the lower court, community issues and more. ADA's handle murder, rape, drug cases that aren't sent to the Feds, violent abuse cases, etc.

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    5. AlwaysAylasAngelMay 4, 2012 at 7:28 AM

      Nick, I believe that in this particular case, it is the Attorneys General who are handling it. I saw that Bill Stokes became involved very early on.

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    6. FYI ADAs do not try murder cases and they work in both district and superior courts. The states Attorney General's office tries all murder cases.

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    7. THat may be true in Maine. In Massachusetts, ADA's work in both District and Superior. Also, the DA and ADAs try the murder cases in MA with few exceptions. FYI.

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    8. I meant to say, with a few exceptions where the AG tries the murder cases.

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    9. @NickSmith

      I think that the Anthony Jury messed up, and it had little to do with how much evidence the prosecution did or DIDN'T have, personally.

      IMHO, this is the PERFECT example of WHY endlessly waiting for that airtight case, and perfect array of flawless evidence, that may NEVER be found, is a BAD IDEA!

      What did it do for the State of Florida? How much MORE "airtight" could the evidence against Casey Anthony be??
      They dragged their feet for YEARS before going to trial, AND had Caylee's body.

      The "wild-card" is ALWAYS going to be the 12 person jury, and whether they (as a GROUP) are able to follow a logical argument.
      Prosecution is ALWAYS going to be a "gamble".
      FAR too much weight is given toward prosecutorial "stats", IMO..
      It's important that when AGs and DAs are deciding whether or not to move forward, that they are placing A LOT OF WEIGHT into the fact that if they do not at least TRY to convict these criminals, they will DEFINITELY go free, and be putting the public at risk every second thereof.

      Look at what endlessly waiting to find Susan Cox Powell's body, before bringing murder charges against Josh and Steve Powell, meant for poor Charlie and Brayden!

      Maybe the conviction wouldn't of been a "slam dunk" without Susan's remains, but I think the state of Utah made a HUGE ERROR in not moving forward, considering the very large cache of OTHER evidence they had.
      At LEAST they could've said they had TRIED!
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  14. I really feel Its time someone in Maine law enforcement grows some coconuts and pull all involved in and squeeze till they start talking. Ayla needs to come home. The ""Words"" police are using to entice a "confession" just are not working. Time to put a little fear into all of them.

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    1. I really am losing faith in the justice system. All these poor babies are going missing and some being found dead, yet know one is put to blame.

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    2. I just saw, that in the Isabel Celis case, LE took each individual household member, seperately, and made them do a "walk through", of that night, physically, inside and also walk outside the home. I wonder if things like this were done with the DiPietro's?

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    3. Now thats what they need to do in maine. But do it over and over and over till one of them spill. I just do not understand how in so many cases, the rights of everyone involved in possibly hurting a child is more important than the rights and needs of the child. It just baffles my mind.

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    4. If you wanted to live in a communist country the cops would do that. Thankfully we don't.

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    5. @steph, not sure if you were the Steph commenting on that other blog the other day but I am sorry she was accusing you of being me if it was

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    6. The family of a missing baby should be happy to cooperate in such ways, I think. Not to the point of communism, but willing to communicate and help out in any way, even if it is repeated several times. Then again, most people with a truly kidnapped baby would do things like speak up for her, tell the truth, things like that.

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    7. Personally, when it comes to children, infringing on the rights of anyone who may be involved really should not be a concern. Im not talking beating the hell out of them but giving them a pass on the tough questioning doesnt serve Ayla either. She is the one who matters here. If the adults get their feelings hurt then perhaps we could chip in a buy a big box of tissues. But seriously, they need to get busy with bringing Ayla home, no matter what.

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    8. Yes it was me and it is okay. lol I just really started to notice her immaturity levels when she was doing that. I love that your blog is about Ayla and not about lies, drama and hurting people. You do a great job running this!

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    9. There is no way the cops are going to get anything out of the DiPietrosRoberts at this point except if they can pit one against another with credible threats of criminal charges. They're lawyered up and their lawyers are not going to advise them to talk. If talking is seen as in their best interest, the lawyer will probably do the talking.

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  15. Well I hope they are not bidiing their time for election purposes, but I have heard of politicians and elected officials doing some really dirty shit. I live in Idaho so I don't know anything about your area.
    I agree they should make them do a walk through one by one. There are three maybe four possible different stories within the group.
    Lies are hard to keep up anyways. If someone's says they are not a liar then they are. Everyone to some degree has lied. Keeping up with little ones are hard to do anyways. Let alone an extra agent Casey Anthony lie the W3 are pulling. Someone has got to slip.
    I am surprised they kept it up this long.
    That's some next level, future lie.

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  16. Nick, I heard the interim DA is weak and not a good lawyer. They want a strong permanent DA in there befor then even think of taking it to a jury trial.

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    1. If this were true, they could use the AG if they have one for Maine/Waterville.

      Also, unless this is a one horse town, there are Assistant ADA's that are more than competent to handle murder trials.

      Now what?

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  17. I that's what I heard. That's a shitty deal. I would be so pissed if I were Ayla's parents ( if Justin is innocent). I don't even know what to say to that. I am mad and Ayla isn't even my child. I guess it's better to be fully prepared than to screw the case up. I just hate to see the people who care about Ayla like family, friends, and people who just genuinely care about her well being have to wait for justice. I can't imagine how that would be to wait, if this happened to your baby. You would be all over the LE ass about convicting someone or finding her. Every parent thinks their children are the center of the universe while other people do not give a shit. So I am trying to put this in the position if it were my baby. I can't though unless you've been there and had this happen to you, you'll never full understand.
    I am not saying that people don't care about missing children, I am just saying the things you will do to get your child back are unfathomable.

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  18. I agree, I think the pain must be worse than death, if you truly love a child. I loved my children that way. I love my grown adult boys of course, and now I have a 14 month old grandson,whom I love that deeply too.

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  19. People are judged by their associations and Justin's aunt and best friend frequent the blog where the blogger feels that it is morally and ethically okay to use someone's family against them to prove a point and to make inflammatory comments while impersonating someone, that tells me that Justin too has issues with ethics and morality and that he condones this behavior. That speaks volumes about his character and the character of people he surrounds himself with.

    GREAT ARTICLE J4A. I ALSO AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOUR ABOVE COMMENT. OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE COMPANY THE DIPS KEEP IS PROVEN TO BE PEOPLE WITH NO VALUES, NO MORALS, DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADDICTIONS, THIEVES, ABUSERS AND LIARS.

    POOR AYLA NEVER STOOD A CHANCE WITH JUSTIN.

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  20. That was very well said, I myself could care less what number I am or getting recognition. I don't make statements everyday but I do pray everyday for Ayla's return to her family. I pray for her safe return, that wherever she is she will be home soon. What Trista is going through is every parents nightmare. No parent should have to go through this.

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  21. It is time for LE to say or do something.

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    1. AMEN,say something.

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  22. It took Pheobe Dieptro two days to admit she lied on her interview on national TV. However, the Dip Supporters claim that the the TV station knew the truth and aired the interview anyway. The Dip Supporters claim this is the main reason why the Dips can't trust the media, because the media knew the truth, but published the information anyway.

    I have some thoughts:

    1. Why did Phoebe lie in the first place? It is no one's fault that Pheobe lied, except for Phoebe!!!

    2. If Pheobe really wanted the truth out there that she lied, she could have called ANY news source in the world to admit the truth and they would have aired her story asap. She had TWO days to take care of it. Instead, Phoebe chose to blame LE and the news station for her own lies!

    3. Selena wants us to believe that Pheobe never lies and is super truthful. Yet, Phoebe lied her ass off on TV, but Selena and the Dip Supporters want the public to trust her anyway. The Dips can't trust the media who only did their job, but Phoebe, who did not do her job as a grandmother, should be trusted after lying? Trust Phoebe whose lies were a hinderance into the Ayla investigation. Trust a grandmother who lied while her 20 month old granddaughter was allegedly "kidnapped."

    4. If you believe your granddaughter was kidnapped, what purpose does it serve to lie about that night? NONE.

    5. If she lied once, twice, three, four times and more in a row, we should trust poor, innocent, non-lying Pheoebe? Should we trust her as much as we trust that Justin didn't see or hear anything when Lance beat the shit out his niece's biological father?!?!?!?!?

    I think not.

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    1. Bride, each and every point you make is right on point. Too many lies, not enough answers! JD & Co, the hard questions are coming and not by the media, LE will be asking this time! Lawyers or not, your daughter, niece, and granddaughter deserves so much more then any of you have given her to this point in the way of respect, love and caring.

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    2. Bride, the DiPietro supporters apparently want the public to buy into their delusions. No scenario is acceptable except the one they paint, no reasoning holds water except theirs. No one is trustworthy except them. Hallmark of abusers. One good psych expert is all the prosecution needs to destroy them in court.

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  23. Just a comment in regards to the DA and grand jury comments that have been posted. In Maine, the state AG's office prosecutes all murder cases. So if the MSP Major Crimes Unit is investigating this as a murder or even suspicious death, it would be the AG, not the DA handling prosecution, making the status of the DA a non-issue.

    The Kennebec County Court's schedule posted on their web site shows a grand jury convening next week, the 11th-13th as I recall. Grand Juries are convened regularly (monthly or quarterly depending on locale) and hear multiple cases over those days. I would like to think Ayla's case will be presented to them next week, but there is no way to know. I do find the MSP's open statement of the items found in the river being possibly related, as well as the timing of Trista's public release (coordinated with MSP perhaps?) of the 'affair' with Justin to be interesting in that both are just ahead of the GJ schedule. Are those two things an attempt to put some pressure on one or more of the people involved to fess up now, in advance of the GJ, where they may be called to testify? A final opportunity for perhaps a lesser player to gain preferential treatment for (finally) cooperating?

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    1. Very good question anon 4:42!! I do have to believe that the "affair" story by Wordman was done in coordination with Trista in an attempt to be as forthcoming and honest as possible without jeopardizing the investigation. I don't want to presume why the MSP released the information of the items found in the river. I have my own belief on that matter but I really want to know the results of testing and the items found to be verified as pertaining to Ayla or not!

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    2. John, I don't believe LE will make any pronouncements whatsoever on those items found around the river. (Were the items IN the river or just around the Hathaway building? I never could get that straight.) Just as I don't think the Maine MSM has any "investigative reporters" who might ask the right questions.

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    3. I have noticed the Main Stream Media in Maine has been somewhat timid to ask the tougher questions. Asa far as information being released about the items, I never did get a firm handle on the exact location of discovery and I believe if it is related to Ayla, the only way we will know is if Trista and her family are willing and allowed to let us know!

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    4. I just do not believe there's much hope that one or more of the parties involved in what happened to Ayla will cooperate with LE and turn on whomever "did the deed". A lot of wishful thinking goes on about someone "cooperating" because of one reason or another.

      For one thing, the DiPs and boosters have the many examples before them of other parents who have missing and "abduced" childen under what LE has called suspicious circumstances. As long as they remain silent, the years go by, and they remain free of charges because of inept investigations or weak-kneed prosecutors.

      Secondly, these DiP people and their circle of supporters don't appear to have very strict consciences and they lie easily when the occasion demands. (Phoebe's tale: "I was there on that "normal night". "Whoops! I just made a U-turn!" "Nah, I don't have to tell you where I really was!"

      Thirdly, they act arrogant and entitled. How dare anyone not believe every word they utter even if it doesn't pass the "straight-face" test? (Phoebe: "McCausland is full of himself!")

      Who are we or LE to question anything they say? Even if their words are gibberish and make no sense ( Justin: "I didn't see my brother beat up Justin Linnell" "I smoked the polygraph!")

      They think they have the right to act imperiously at the public's and LE's questions in the light of a missing and doubtless endangered child. (Justin: "All will be revealed when the time is right. Now, is not the time. Ayla's sdjusting.")

      The emperor has no clothes!

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    5. Anon, I hope you are wrong. This cannot go on for years as some others have in the past. There is evidence that can be tried. If LE reaches the end of evidence collection without determining who exactly "did the deed", I believe a stern AG will charge them all and let the jury figure it out! JMO though

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    6. Anon 4:42, what are Maine's gj secrecy rules? Are witness identities disclosed? Can witnesses talk publicly about their testimony and questions asked of them?

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  24. The were found behind Hathaway,in the water,spillway,The river runs through the spillway.

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  25. It was good for Trista to get all her cards on the table and have full disclosure so that people that are supporting her cause to get justice for Ayla don't encounter surprises in the coming legal battle.

    Blog Wars is a cliche for Cyber Wars which is just a modern version of long drawn out propaganda battles. I have watched quite a few raging arguments since the days of 1400-56000 kilobyte modems back in 1995.

    Musical Chairs and Sock Puppets is my favorite combination of phrases to remember those days by. I also admit to participating as if there was actually something to win or lose. What the kid from California is doing is the right move. Blog verses Blog. It leaves the lunatic fringe busy reading another blog instead of cooking up schemes to derail the people dedicated to Ayla's right to her day in court.

    What makes J4A vulnerable is its content and continuity as a reasonable advocate of the First Degree Murder prosecution of Justin DiPietro. To readers here the longer this drags on the more obvious the facts get.
    As citizens we have an obligation to demand justice for a fellow citizen that is why the silence from the other side is deafening.

    When I was involved in a cyber war long ago it was reflecting on the old 1980 Mathew Broderick film WAR GAMES that got me to snap out of it and
    reflect only on the contents of my posts and other posts. The final moral of that old film was a boy playing a massive computer he had hacked into only to find it really was a trigger device to launch nuclear missile if all the humans died. In the end he plays Tic Tac Toe with it similar to what this kid is doing from California. Eventually the computer realizes that every game comes up a tie. Its final pronouncement before turning itself off is:

    THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS NOT TO PLAY

    I think this kid running interference for J4A is a worthy act of service because he is not going in thinking of winning, only of keeping the other party occupied in the same vain as Broderick played Tic Tac Toe to keep the computer "to busy to believe every else was dead and launch."

    I don't see anything unusual in what has happened. It is standard info wars. Obviously whoever goes to a scorched earth policy first loses. In this case involving young children as targets.

    The other two DiPietro children in the home have always been discussed in terms of their current level of safety and in context to the case.

    As to the person J4A & Associates I don't see any lawbreaking or extreme acts of depraved indifference. J4A actually provoked the acquisition of the Cumberland Farms surveillance tapes besides other personal attachments to the case something a couple of dozen other posters also have in common as long term Waterville residents.

    Ayla was targeted and murdered that is why we are here.

    The longer this stalemate drags on the more obvious that gets to anyone not certifiably insane who makes a game players pretense to an open mind after allowing a tornado to come in the front door and exit the back door. It simply doesn't happen in the real world and not even in OZ.

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    A tune in the blog ID for you California

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    1. Well said! And you are absolutely correct and it's worth repeating.....

      The ONLY way to WIN is NOT to PLAY!

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    2. Excellent comment. Thank you theonlyway.

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    3. ITA theonlyway! Very astute.

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    4. Awesome post, "Only Way"!
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  26. I have not seen a photo or an image that would illustrate how large the rumored purple backpack is.

    I had an awful dream last night that a deceased Ayla was removed from the house secreted within it.

    Now I realize that was just my subconsciuos on overdrive and that is not a likely theory but it did get me thinking this morning.

    A backpack would be a logical choice to use to remove incriminating items from the home during a cleanup/coverup of whatever may have happened.

    Got a bloody mess to clean up, glancing around, in a panic, bloody blanket has to go, along with the bloody cloth(s) used to clean up the mess, shove them in that backpack over there til I can dump them somewhere.

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    1. Yeah but didn't Trista say police took a photo of that item in the house after the reported disappearance? If it's the cameo bag, that is. That and the ladybug blanket were supposedly in the house when police had the house.

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  27. I'm still contemplating the blood stain by the bed after John P. presented his recent fast bleed hypothesis. A sudden noticed injury and rapidly expanding stain or a slow bleed out after an act not thought or presumed to be a possibly fatal deed.

    Fast early bleed out equals gun knife object.
    Slow unnoticed bleed out equals sexual assault or serious blow to stomach.
    The speed & spread of the stain is forensics that shall be revealed at trial.

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    1. Rage assault seems very likely. If kick to abdomen and rupture of internal organ, would there be external bleeding?

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    2. Pet Peace Frog, my suggestion of a quicker bleeding injury was twofold, #1 I was hoping if it was fatal that she was not left to bleed by herself in a strange place and #2 was because if it was slow, I would assume the evidence would have spreas out over a larger area while Ayla was succombing to the injury! I am open to other possiblities if you have them though!

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    3. John P, since there's no cadaver dog hit by the bed, she either didn't die there or was moved pretty quickly. Given the week between presumed injury and police report, doesn't seem like they were moving fast. I too hope it was quick and painless, assuming the worst, but the evidence isn't inspiring.

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    4. anon, I saw photos of the dogs being brought in to the dwelling, but do we know if they hit or not. I have not seen anything on that. If you could help I would appreciate it!! I agree with the evidence, but am still holding out hope while trying to wrap my head around everything else.

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    5. I know there have been discussions on the dogs, I was on the side though that there may have been a hit and that was why the FBI left so soon and why the forensic team was in the house for so long!

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    6. I've thought for a long time that she possibly was not fully deceased upon removal. Possibly thet knew that, but I'm leaning more towards they didn't know.

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  28. From the limited facts we have, Justin seems clueless about child development. He allegedly injured Ayla and said it was from his "horsing around" with her. A baby and an adult man are not on equal footing and cannot "horse around" together. The baby will get hurt every time. He allegedly described the next injury as other babies beating up Ayla. Babies don't beat each other up. The point isn't whether these incidents were accurately described- they probably were not- but what they show about his mindset. An astute liar knowledgeable about child development would not make these statements. He shows his ignorance, assuming he said these things, of what's normal when it comes to interaction with babies.

    There was a history of violence in that house according to blog and FB comments. Justin may have had no clue how easily a baby would be hurt from being shoved, kicked or otherwise mistreated. His comments suggest he didn't grasp the physical and emotional inequality between an adult and a baby.

    The broken arm reeks of abuse, and I bet it was Phoebe who came up with the fall explanation. What may be the truth comes through in his gratuitous comment about how he didn't usually carry her but did that night. He may have hurt her when she resisted being carried or she may have been walking and he grabbed her arm and twisted it. Knowing he'd get tagged for abuse for those action, he avoided the ER. When it became obvious the ER was unavoidable (with Trista calling every day, they had to do something because Ayla would have told mommy her arm hurt) they came up with the story of the fall. Only later when telling it to the media did they embellish it with the details that proved it false.

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    1. Forever Curious, I could think of a better lie to tell in 2 minutes. If he injured her arm by grabbing and lifting her while twisting, why not just say," On a cold rainy night Ayla was walking beside me and slipped, I instinctively grab for her to break her fall, and when I did grab her I heard a popping sound!" The elaborateness of what they attempted to fabricate and the timeline of it wreaks of abuse in that he was scolding her for whatever reason and squeezed her arms while pulling her into his face. Kind of like grabbing a person by the shirt with two fistfuls of the shirt only by her arm instead!

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    2. Forever CuriousMay 4, 2012 at 1:41 PM

      Exactly John but that's the difference between your mindset and that of an abuser. You care enough to know how to treat a kid. If you wanted to lie about it, you'd know enough not to say something incredibly ineffective.

      An abuser doesn't expect to have his account questioned. He has no need to find out facts to tell "a good lie" because he doesn't contemplate or tolerate challenge. When challenged, an abuser will bully or resort to painting himself the victim to deflect attention from the obvious flaws in his story. I think he did not see the implications of his lies or of his ridiculously-inept parenting knowledge until after the stories were out there and he couldn't take them back. If he were to lie today, he'd probably take that experience into account and act like he knew it all along. That's what abusers typically do.

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    3. Excellent post, I had not thought of it in this fashion. I assume too much sometimes. In this case I assume that no-one would willingly hurt thier own adorable little child.

      Thankfully, I have only had to deal with two abusers in my life and both realized that they would not be doing the abusing.

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    4. Don't forget Phoebe being more worried about Justin's wrist, which she said had been broken before, than what pain Ayla was going through...that is, if Phoebe was even there when it happened. It may have happened in Portland with Courtney as witness.

      Also, we learned from Trista's side that Justin told Jessica that Ayla "screamed bloody murder" when he supposedly fell on her arm. In addition, Justin recently referred to Ayla "breaking her arm" placing the blame on Ayla and not on himself.

      I rather think he grabbed her by the arm, lifted her or jerked her in anger and somehow broke it. I've seen parents lift their barely-walking tots in stores in this rough manner and my heart sinks. If they are this rough in public, what goes on in private.

      At any rate, Justin's story of how the accident happened hasn't gelled because of the date of his class, the weather in the region, and how long they really waited to take her to the ER.

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    5. In my experience with child abusers, they actually say very little. They let others around them interpret, and since most of us could not conceive of hurting a child, "She fell" becomes, she lost her balance and fell, etc. Usually the other parent is the one busy lying to protect the abuser and in their own warped minds the child from being taken away. When I was kicked in the stomach hard enough to rupture my appendix it became "she fell off the swing". The kid sure as heck isn't going to correct anyone, they have already been punished enough. Who went to the ER with Justin and Ayla?

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    6. Mommy Dearest, that's who!

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    7. We don't know when the accident with Ayla's arm actually happened, do we? I mean Justin was a bit vague about when it all went down...or when he "fell down" on Ayla.

      We know the date when Ayla was taken to the ER, but we don't know how long they waited to take her since we can't find out the actual date of the accident about which Justin is characteristically hazy.

      Besides which, these DiPietros and their closest supporters appear to lie without compunction.

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  29. "When challenged, an abuser will bully or resort to painting himself the victim to deflect attention..."

    ITA agree!!

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  30. I just saw this video.....wow...so sad. http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/324284

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