Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Revisiting Ayla's Timeline



Over the last couple of weeks, I’ve been pondering Ayla’s timeline. The details included in the history of events provided by Trista, her mother Becca, her sister Jessica, and her brother Ronnie (delivered through Jeff Hanson at the family blog, http://www.answers4ayla.com) has been picked apart and misread by all of us on all sides of this case. Another link to re-read (or if you are new to this site and to Ayla’s case, another link that discusses this topic) is Statement Analysis’ perception of Ayla’s timeline.

I will be copying and pasting the timeline originally shared at the A4A blog, which includes the timeline in italicized, black font; Jeff’s updates and comments are in italicized, red font; and my own comments in a regular, pink-ish font. In addition to the original timeline, I will also be including confirmed facts, details, and statements that have transpired BEFORE and after the date Ayla was reported missing. (As a side note, this will be a lengthy post, so to those of you that have issues with long articles, you have been forewarned.)
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Early 2011: It has been confirmed that somewhere around the beginning of 2011, I’ll put my guess as possibly January of 2011, Justin DiPietro fathered a second child, a son. When J4A first posted the article to speculate on, shortly after it went live we received confirmation that this alleged statement provided by an Anonymous commentator at the Statement Analysis blog was in fact, TRUE.

Now, with a child possibly being delivered in January of 2011, that puts ol’ Peachy as having conceived this little one somewhere around April or May of 2010, just around the birth of little Ayla Bell. As we know, Justin didn’t learn of Ayla’s life until she was around seven months of age (November of 2010), and apparently by this time, Baby’s Mother #2 should have been around 7-8 months pregnant. It was also shared and partially confirmed that Baby’s Mother #2 was actually dating Justin at the time of conception (having met by working together at a bar/restaurant/pub). She also apparently has already filed for full custody and Parental Rights and Responsibilities—a smart move, I’d say. 

Please take note that no names have been mentioned regarding Justin's second child and his mother, and that we at J4A continue to only post the details that support our feelings of Justin's character, which is in line with discussing this case and everything that revolves around it; Justin and his character fall in that bubble.

August 27th 2011 - Justin took Ayla for the day to see the Navy's Blue Angels in Brunswick and nothing was amiss with the visit aside from Ayla had a slight sunburn.

Side note: I'm still curious as to why it took Justin just shy of a year to begin spending time with Ayla.

About Mid-September - Justin took Ayla to Chucky Cheese and she was returned with black and blue bruises the right side of her face and ear, photographs were taken. Justin said that he had put her in the "Ball Pit" and she got into a fight with two little boys.

 A spokesman from Chucky Cheese said that they have not had a "Ball Pit" since 2001.

FYI: After doing some research of my own, I confirmed through phone calls and also an article shared on Wikipedia, that Chuck E. Cheese has most definitely, not had a ball pit since early 2000’s due to safety AND financial concerns.

About the end of September - Justin took Ayla on a Thursday and brought her back Friday. Later that evening, Becca noticed that she could not walk without difficulty and after a few days she was not getting any better, favoring her left foot as she walked. Trista asked Justin what had happened and he said they were," horsing around". The subsequent visit to the doctor found it to be a Pulled  Leg Muscle, and it took three weeks before she could walk normally again.

Justin took Ayla Thursday 9/22 and brought her back Friday 9/23 and the doctor examined Alya's injury on 9/29 as Trista was told to wait a week, to see if the "funny walk" got any better.

Regardless of what anyone wants to continue to say in the negative about Trista, you can’t deny that she wasn’t proactive in seeking both medical treatment and opinions for her daughter’s injuries that were apparent upon returning home from Justin’s brief and very few visits with Ayla; there is NO denying that, no matter how large your distaste for Trista is as a woman and a Mother may be.

Early October 2011: It has recently been divulged that Trista and Justin were having “an affair” together for the six months leading up to Ayla’s reported disappearance; Trista stated that their last encounter together was one week prior to her beginning her treatment at the rehab facility. So, this puts their last “encounter” on or about 10/6/2011.

What I find interesting is this: About a week later after their last physical encounter together, Trista “became increasingly dependent on alcohol” and a fight broke out between her and her sister. What happened the afternoon she spent with Justin? What did they talk about that possibly upset her so much (and triggered her reactions) to the point of a fight with her sister? What was the subject matter of their altercation—why would it trigger THAT SERIOUS of an encounter between them? Was it even that serious? Could they have been arguing about Justin and his involvement with Trista (and most importantly, Ayla)?

ALSO of importance to note: Per LE, it is within this time frame that Justin took out the life insurance policy on Ayla’s life. It’s amazing when you truly think about this case, that the events that transpired after their last intimate encounter occurred which all led to Ayla’s alleged abduction. Think about it:

            1) They’re intimate; whatever happened before they parted ways (or whatever was discussed) could have been an emotional trigger for Trista that led her to react and further abuse her substance-of-choice;

            2) A fight breaks out between her and her sister (subject matter unknown—correct me if I’m wrong, please);

            3) DHHS gives her the ultimatum (to which she chooses to get her act together for herself and her children’s future); and then

            4) Life quickly changes for Ayla and Trista, as follows: (a) Justin snatches Ayla almost at super speed with not one hint of an issue legally, including trauma experienced by Ayla; (b) he allows minimal contact between Mother and Daughter; (c) life insurance policy is secretly taken out against Ayla’s life; (d) texts between the Parents show Justin is fearful that Ayla will be taken (premeditation?); (e) communication between Ayla and Trista is cut (12/8/11); (f) Justin cancels Ayla’s follow-up appointment with her bone specialist, and exactly ONE WEEK LATER, Ayla is mysteriously missing.

Was she really missing one week later? I do not feel that this is so.

October 12, 2011 - Trista becoming increasingly more dependent on alcohol, relating to her personal life and the stresses of being a single mom with two babies had an altercation with her sister Jessica, resulting in the police being called. No charges were filed and The Maine Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) was notified.

I’ve crossed out a section of this event as I don’t feel they needed to go into detail of why she became increasingly more dependent, and I don’t think she needed to minimize her circumstances (or project them)—it’s no one’s business, although I do have my own thoughts on that which I will share below in further detail. (Also, it speaks volumes to me that she divulges ALL OF HER PERSONAL DETAILS while she is seeking answers for her daughter’s fate, whereas, Justin says nothing.)

October 13, 2011 – DHHS gave Trista two choices: kick the alcohol, or lose the kids. Realizing the adverse affect alcohol was having on herself and her children, she admitted herself into a substance abuse treatment facility in Lewiston that afternoon. Justin was never given sole custody of Ayla. No complaints were filed with any courts or agencies. Trista never went to court and never saw a judge. DHHS had put Ayla in the joint care of Becca and Jessica while she was undergoing treatment.

I’ve stricken-through what I felt was additional and unnecessary commentary, and I have highlighted important details to remember.

As a side note, I wanted to include Peter Hyatt’s comments on this date (and will include his comments for the following days after this occurrence in the case): With no judge involved, DHHS only brokers agreements between parents; only a judge can grant an order.”

October 17th, 2011, 3pm - DHHS case worker and supervisor for child protection services (CPS), called Jessica demanding that she turn Ayla over to Justin. When Jessica asked," Why now?" she was told that, "he's the father and he has the right to take her" and went on to say that "dad trumps the aunt - any day". Jessica refused to give Ayla to Justin.

Statement Analysis’ comments on this: “The caseworker/supervisor cannot demand anything.  Only a court can make demands.  That a 'dad trumps an aunt' is more a prediction of what a court would say.  If the supervisor said this, she overstepped her bounds and could be held responsible in a suit.”

It has been shared that the alleged supervisor of DHHS at the time was Karen Small; this is not something to be received as a fact, however.

October 17th 2011, 7pm - Lewiston Police and Justin (who waited downstairs) arrived at Jessica's apartment and demanded on behalf of DHHS that they turn Ayla over to them. After Ayla was turned over to Justin by the police, it was revealed to Jessica (via phone) that the CPS supervisor had given the police authorization (and Jessica's address) to retrieve Ayla. Ayla was kicking and screaming when turned over to Justin. While that may qualify as ‘without incident’ on a police log it was traumatic for everyone else involved.


Justin was in the apartment when the officer handed Ayla over to him; his mom, Phoebe waited in the car - and Ayla tried to bite the officer as he was handing her over to Justin. After Justin and Phoebe left with Ayla, the officer stated to Becky that: "if he had his way, he would not have let Ayla go with Justin".

Statement Analysis’ comments on this: “The police can call the Dept and only ask if there is anything that hinders the father from taking the child.  It is not done on "behalf of DHHS". If the supervisor gave the police the "authority", ("authorization" even implied) there is an issue here that will need to be answered by the supervisor in question. Note also that the supervisor likely can be called into question for revealing Trista's address as well. If Ayla was kicking and screaming, it was traumatic for her.”

October 20th 2011, 2pm - A "family team meeting" was held. Among those present were: Trista, Jessica, Justin (via phone), Jessica's attorney, two doctors, two DHHS case workers, and the CPS supervisor. At the end of the meeting, all parties agreed (including Justin) that Ayla would be returned to Trista after completion of her seven day evaluation. Justin was also ordered by DHHS to bring Ayla to the treatment facility the following day for a visit with Trista, and to release her into the care of Trista (at Jessica's Apartment) on October 22nd or according to the CPS supervisor "there would be consequences".


Justin never showed up with Ayla at the treatment facility. Justin also did not release Ayla into Trista’s care on 10/22/11. Trista called DHHS numerous times, only to be stone-walled by the chain of command. Trista, at wits end, eventually agrees to leave Ayla with Justin provided she receives regular visits with Ayla.

People continue to attack Trista for this decision she made; in my opinion, I don’t entirely blame her. You have to imagine the circumstances she was dealing with upon her completion of rehabilitation and treatment. It is an eye-opener of sorts once you are sober and thinking about your life and future; it is so indescribable to the point that oftentimes, this is when people relapse and are found back in the treatment facilities that they just departed! The anxiety one feels to remain sober and focus on their mission is hard when previously, you didn’t have a mission or a goal; you just lived life as you knew it, and apparently, what Trista knew was what so many hundreds and thousands of young adults her age (the 20-something age bracket) participated in (whether they are parents or not): Trista was caring for her children by daylight as she should (and did), and was socializing with her sister and friends (drinking, smoking, whatever) by night; it happens too often and one shouldn’t be judged by those choices. The important part is that Trista decided to receive treatment, and she did. The other important part is that Ayla was taken care of, vibrant, and happy in her mother’s care; the absolute opposite is the case while Ayla was in Justin’s care, for the short time she was in it.

November 5th 12th 2011 - Justin calls Trista and says that they (he and his mom) were getting ready to take Ayla to The Emergency Room. When asked why, Justin told Trista that he was coming home from shopping the day before and had "fallen up the stairs" on Ayla while carrying her and a bag of groceries. Later it was reported that Ayla's Left Forearm was broken and had been put into a splint and ace bandage. Fractured Distal Humerus

November 14th, 2011 approx. 10am: Justin picked Trista up at Jessica's in Lewiston and drove her and Ayla to an Orthopedic Doctor in Portland. After the examination Trista asked Justin if Ayla could spend the night with her and was told she was not allowed to have her. When asked why Justin replied," Because I'm not going to have you telling me what to do".

This is another instance where I can sympathize. I know many that have been in her shoes; I know friends that were the insecure young mother “chasing” after their child’s father in the hopes for a family; I was there for them when they were the single parent whose self worth was trailing behind them leaving them to question themselves at every angle. Witnessing it second-hand while a close friend (friends, really) went through this showed me how hard it is, and it sucks. Again, readdressing my thoughts in how Trista must have felt as a young adult just out of rehab (questioning her life, her future, her children’s future, etc.), it makes sense that she’s so unsure of everything as a whole that she assumed Justin had any legal pull or say in Ayla’s whereabouts. It DOES make sense to me that she was requesting time with Ayla (to which he denied) and she took it at face value for what it wasn’t: ‘Justin has the say right now and I don’t’—it’s unfortunate that she wasn’t fully aware of her rights in this situation, but as a side, it should speak volumes about the dynamic between the two (which, surprise surprise, is in line with what Trista has said of this man: manipulative, controlling, bad temper, etc.).

November 21, 2011 2 pm- Trista went with Ayla and Justin to a  Doctor’s Appointment with her bone specialist; that was the last time Trista, Ronnie, and Becca saw Ayla.

It has been six months since Trista saw her beautiful baby girl…my heart breaks for her.
Another point to remember is that Trista claimed that the last time she spoke to Ayla was on or before 12/8/2011. Apparently, Justin was quite adamant of her not being “allowed” to talk to Ayla and gave various reasoning behind it. In my opinion, this is because Ayla was already “missing” at this time.

December 15th 2011, 12 pm - Due to her growing concerns of infrequent visitations, lack of communication from Justin, missing doctor visits and Ayla's injuries while under Justin's care (documented with doctors and DHHS), Trista petitioned the Cumberland County Courthouse for Parental Rights and Responsibilities.

December 16, 2011: Justin cancelled Ayla’s follow-up appointment with her bone specialist, which was just over a week after Trista’s reported final talk with her daughter. 

December 17, 2011 8:51 am - Ayla Bell Reynolds is reported missing from 29 Violette Avenue Waterville, Maine

December 19, 2011: Trista Reynolds sat down for another interview (this is a good thing!). Without getting into detail about it, I will link it here, with a request to pay close attention to Trista once it hits around 3:00 (minutes). Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnCkclFtWuM

That is genuine HURT; that is genuine LOSS; and, those are the actions of a Parent who has lost their child into the “unknown”.

December 30, 2011: Police stated that foul play was involved in Ayla's disappearance. 

January 2012: Angela Harry created the website, http://www.thislittlelightofmaine.org, in an effort to support a man she knew by extension (friend of a cousin), whom she hadn’t seen since she was about eight years of age. In it, she created a page (which has since been deleted; go figure!) where she provided an outline of the events from the moment Justin learned of Ayla’s life until the day she was reported missing. As I said, this page and timeline has since been removed, so if you never had the chance to read it, you can do so HERE. This timeline is completely ridiculous to me; it is of high opinion here in our minds at J4A that Courtney Roberts, the angry and jealous girlfriend of Justin, potentially wrote this novel and sent it to Angela for handling. *sigh*

January 7, 2012: Phoebe DiPietro agrees and sits down for an interview with CNN where she shares that she was in the house the night of the reported abduction, that she wasn’t the last to go to bed, that is was a “normal night” with nothing out of the ordinary, and that she didn’t know if the window or any door(s) in the house were unlocked—she further stated that if she did know, this wouldn’t have happened. Days later, Phoebe admitted that she lied in the interview, as per LE’s direction, and admitted she wasn’t in the house that night. (LE later rebutted her claims of having her lie, as they have done with most of what the DiPietro’s have publicly claimed. It should be noted and reiterated AGAIN that LE has not rebutted one claim shared by Trista and her family…yet there are still others out there that feel she and her sister are the ones who have Ayla. *tisk, tisk, tisk*)

January 30, 2012: Confirmed. Blood evidence was found in Justin DiPietro's Violet Avenue home and was confirmed by LE to be that of Ayla's. Trista shared on the family blog that LE claimed it was, "more than what a small cut would produce".  When Trista confronted Justin about this newly released information at the Vigil, Justin couldn't even look Trista in the eye to respond to her. The video from the Vigil can be found here (0:49 in the video).

February 6, 2012: Lance DiPietro was arrested in connection with an assault against Justin Linnell, the father of Lance’s niece, Gabby (the daughter of Elisha DiPietro, Lance and Justin’s sister). Apparently, Lance didn’t appreciate what Justin Linnell was discussing about his family; so, true-to-DiPietro-form, Justin drove Lance to confront Justin L., which ended in blood shed in order to protect his family’s name. When Justin D. was questioned about his involvement, he confirmed that he did drive, but wasn’t paying attention (paraphrasing, not verbatim). When Lance was in the Courthouse in front of the Judge for this charge, he pled Not Guilty and later commented that he had hoped this case would be signed off for a fee or something of this sort. 

March 24, 2012: Steve McClausland, spokesperson for MSP publicly confirmed that the DiPietro's and Courtney Roberts stopped communication with them.

March 31, 2012:  Cynthia Caron from LostNMissing, Inc. responded directly (and publicly on the Blogs) and stated that Justin discontinued communications with the Laura Recovery Center in early January (i.e., email communications, phone calls, etc.) and also stated that to date, LostNMissing, Inc. has never received a phone call or an email from the paternal family.

April 26, 2012: Items were found in the Kennebec River; to date, it is still unknown as to whether or not they are related to Ayla’s case.

May 6, 2012: A walk for Ayla was planned as an event to further raise awareness for her. Elisha DiPietro half-attended this event (i.e., it was reported that she came in and walked with the others about a mile before the end of the walk) and “spoke” to the attendees of the Walk in front of their Violette Avenue home. Ben McCanna, the reporter from the Online Sentinel has been consistent in keeping Ayla’s name out in the media, and following the walk he published this article detailing a brief interview he had with Elisha. Elisha shared the following: (a) She took a polygraph, and “did fine”; (b) when asked to clarify on the meaning of her comments, she reiterated that “she did fine” and further went on to defend her family’s name as being liars (typical); (c) she indirectly stated that LE are incompetent as they didn’t investigate certain items and areas of Ayla’s room as they should have (the DiPietro’s maintain LE’s incompetence regularly); and (d) stated that Ayla’s window was unlocked; a detail that they are just now claiming even though her Mother, Phoebe, earlier shared that she was unsure.

May 11, 2012: MORE items found in the Kennebec River, and it has been confirmed that these items ONLY are not connected to the case. (We all are awaiting news on the first set of items as to whether or not they are relevant.)

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In between all of this, LE has adamantly maintained that the three adults present the night that Ayla was reported missing are not telling them everything they know, which in obvious reasoning shows that they are LIARS. They have also rebutted almost everything stated by the DiPietro family, and to my knowledge, have not rebutted anything stated by the Reynolds’ and Jeff Hanson. In fact, they have commended the efforts from Trista, Jeff, and her family members for all that they continue to do for Ayla and her case.

Additionally, I wanted to link you directly to Trista’s family blog where they dedicated an entire page to providing links for the public; these links are all news articles and interviews, links to blogs speaking out for Ayla, videos created, poems given, and things alike. Here is the link: http://www.answersforayla.com/p/aylas-links.html

Law Enforcement have stated, along with LostNMissing, Inc. and the Laura Recovery Center that keeping Ayla's name out there is at the forefront of efforts we all can do to keep awareness high for her; this is what we continue to do at this blog in the only ways we are in the capacity to do so, and our efforts will not stop until Ayla is found and brought home. We continue to get attacked by Anonymous commentators and disturbed bloggers on the internet for the things that we post, but these reactions show us that what we share continues to strike a nerve of sensitivity.

As a final note and general response to recent comments we've received at this blog: It has been commented that we had no right to bring in an innocent woman and her child into this mix; I ask you to please keep in mind that we have not listed any names, photographs, "criminal" records or home addresses of this woman and her son (as those personal details have no bearing on this case). We respect people's privacy.

Actions speak louder than words, and since we receive no words from Justin, his actions are what paves the way for his future.  Thus far, his actions (and in-action) regarding his daughter, whose birth name is AYLA BELL REYNOLDS by the way, have done nothing but paint an awful picture about his character as well tell a horrible story about his daughter's life in her brief time with him. 

We remain hopeful that Ayla is alive, being cared for by some anonymous person who has done well in keeping her completely hidden for over five months, and that this is all something that will end soon when "the truth comes out" as Justin says will happen, but I know that with every passing day that Ayla is not found, my hope turns into efforts of being another voice for Ayla and for children that deserved more in their lives. When Justin addressed the public in his interview and stated to the "kidnapper" that they are not her parent, he was dead-on; unfortunately, he didn't realize he was only speaking to himself. Trista is her parent; all of her actions show us this.

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UPDATE: If anyone reading this post notices a detail I may have missed, please leave a comment with a supporting link so that I can update the timeline, accordingly. This took me weeks to put together, but I knew before publishing this that there would be updates that I overlooked and missed completely. Thanks to all of you!

148 comments:

  1. JMH, Thank you so much for revisiting this timeline and including several added times and details to the equation. It is great to see them all included. It is great to see this all in one post. I would love to be able to add the Dec 15th playdate to the list. Other than Derek insisting it is confirmed though, do you feel it can be added, either by my own recollection or in the article itself, without compromising the timeline?

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    1. Thanks, John! Yes, we can add in anything else I may have missed! Perhaps I should include an additional paragraph in the post requesting anyone to include updates I may have missed in the comments section?

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    2. I updated the post! Thanks again, y'all. I will get to searching for links to support Phoebe's attendance at the Walk and also will look around for more info, re: play date with Derek's little one.

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    3. I was at the walk JMH. It was Phoebe that showed up late and walked the last mile. Elisha,Gabby and a Elisha's friend was there from the beginning.

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  2. IMO, if Ayla is found deceased, DHHS should be held accountable as accessories to murder, in particular the manager involved for overstepping her authority and undermining the authority of the law; allowing harm to come to the child through inaction or deceptive practices. DHHS has a long history of inaction that has allowed harm to come to children. I've dealt with them before and know how deceptive they can be. Granted they are overworked, just like everyone else is, but there are obvious signs to watch for and many times they are overlooked to expedite a case.

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    1. Well, if nothing else, Trista will have a very strong civil suit against them and the state.

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    2. Agencies don't like to admit or be proven wrong if it ever came to that. I would hope that if there is enough evidence that agencies involved would be investigated and held accountable!!

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    3. After reading this, I totally agree. This is something that you overlook as a detail, but when you read it from start to finish you begin to see just how big a hand DHS had in this finale (not that it is over). :(

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    4. Anon! Yes! I agree with you... As I was reading the timeline I found my self disgusted and filled with rage at the lack of concern for the child, Ayla, on the part of this agency. Trista reported abuse twice, which wasn't substantiated, then this gross ape looking thing doesn't return Ayla when he is supposed to and the Police were not called by DHHS to re-remove her. WTF? I want to know why he was not charged with child abduction. HUH?
      Come on MSP please hold ALL accountable, including DHHS. This woman needs to loose her job. I am so tired of hearing about families being ripped apart when NO NEGLECT, ABUSE, or MISTREATMENT has been given. However, they keep families intact when signs of abuse are there.. How many babies have these state agencies been responsible for their murders?
      Justin was living at a bachelor pad with two men when awarded custody of his daughter, no job. Explain that to me?
      I hope she sues the f*ing pants off of them
      Sorry for the rant but this pisses me off so bad.

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    5. Wait.. not awarded custody, but whatever it was they granted him...

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  3. JMH, that is a great post. It's nice to see the timeline revisited, with much added detail.

    I really like John's idea of adding derek's SUPPOSED "playdate", that he confirmed for the morning on Dec 16th, the same day Ayla's dr appointment was missed by Justin. (Maybe this "playdate" is not really proven FACT though?).

    Also, before 'Anon's Attack', I *thought* Elisha attended the entire walk, and it was Phoebe who came late?

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    1. Thanks, Kit! I'm going to look around for links regarding the alleged play date and also the Walk. I hadn't seen any confirmation from LE about the play date (only Derek's comments that it happened), and I hadn't seen anywhere that Phoebe attended the Walk at all, so thanks for the heads up. I'm going to go do more homework!

      I'll update this post as Commentators share more updates that should be included in Ayla's timeline. Thanks again!

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    2. Regarding Phoebe's late arrival:

      Purple Butterflies May 9, 2012 9:57 PM

      Elisha did have Gabby and a friend there with her, but NO-none of the "others" were there. Pheobe showed at 2ish.. I did not see her actually show-up, I just realized that she was there. Elisha actually looked pretty comfortable being there and people were civil toward her. I agree with you-I do not know if I would be there without the "other" either. Just adds to the wierd seperation.. Pheobe and Elisha sticking together and the Justin and Courtney fading away.. and the whole seperate Lawyer thing too.. not sure what it adds up to, but it has caught peoples attention.

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    3. JMH...good work! Thanks so much your time was well spent.

      One minor correction: I believe AH said she knew Justin when HE was 8 years old, not when SHE was 8 years old. I think she saw him running around the Tudela home when she was visiting her cousin, HT, back in the good old days.
      __Pennyante

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    4. Thank you Kit! I commented above in a reply to JMH before I noticed that you had already re-posted an earlier post of mine. :)

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    5. Your welcome. I hoped you didn't mind, I really like when there are specific facts from people who have first hand knowledge and don't mind sharing. The more facts the better. :)

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  4. From AH Timeline: "Justin had found out that he was a father when Ayla was 7 months old. He never even knew Ayla was on the way, so he didn't get to meet her when she was born. When he found out that he had a child, he was happy to be a Dad and he tried to learn things quickly."

    So Justin lied to Angela, if she got this information from him. He told her that finding out about Ayla's birth made him a father. He never knew Alya was on the way? He tried to convince Trista to abort (he new the possibility).

    "When he found out he had A CHILD"!?!?! What about his son, wasn't he a child of Justin's?

    Angela, isn't that something that makes you wonder about all the things that Justin claims? It would sure make this reasonable and logical person wonder. Nice how Justin lies by omission. I guess he figures he isn't lying if he just withholds the truth.

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    1. ITA! These people standing up for Justin either, know his true character and lie for him (which makes them just as bad), or they have GOT to be realizing, by NOW, what his true character is.

      Are they going to continue to bury their heads and/or deflect? Or stand up for innocent Ayla???

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    2. ITA anon andd Kit, But AH is not going to take her head out of her fourth point of contact and question Justin. The hope would be that HT does dislike Justin as much as is rumored and is going to talk in exchange for a reduced sentence deal for her son (at least for me this is the hope)! Derek should and wil, IMO, be held accountable, but I do not want ED or CR to get full immunity. They should all pay thier own justice. If any get full immunity, my hope it is Elisha solely for Gabbys sake! Speak up Elisha, protect Gabby, not Justin! He is a big boy and can fend for himself. We all know that children can not fend for themselves!

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    3. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the firm support for Justin with this one. The tone of the timeline AH originally shared on her website truly stands out as something written by a supportive girlfriend (Courtney) just after Ayla was reported missing, in that Justin was too "emotionally incapable" of doing anything at the time, so Courtney took the lead and attempted to "help" as she could (which to me, wasn't at all helpful and showed her true colors, IMO).

      It's a clusterfu#k of the mind. I would say that I hope Angela and those that support Justin are seeing more clearly by now, but that really isn't the case. They will support who they wish to support and it will remain that way because they decided this a long time ago. Trying to sway someone's mind in such a highly emotional and sensitive case is like beating a dead horse; it is what it is. Even though my personal stance in this case is the polar opposite of theirs, I guess as long as they claim they are on Ayla's side and continue to raise awareness for her, then that's the most we could hope for.

      My hope remains with the reality of Ayla being found, the truth being discovered, and justice being served. Focusing on the others involved by extension takes too much energy out of the mission shared here, IMO.

      When will Ayla be found?! :(

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    4. The problem I have with that JMH is they "claim" to be on Aylas side! I emphasize the "claim" part because they hide in a secret group, they do for Ayla without telling anyone, they bash anyone who analyzes the evidence rather than just blindly listening to AH and HT, they delete you from thier group if you say the wrong thing!!! How is this for Ayla? Work TOGETHER with organizations that know what they are doing. The billboards are a good idea, if they had said something before denying access to thier group I could have help pay for billboard time! They prevent most that want to help Ayla from helping simply because we have an opinion! They should work with everyone else and not duplicate work, it boggles the mind!

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    5. Oh yes, I agree 100%, John. I only mean that at this point, if they claim they are on Ayla's team then I don't want to argue with that. It's too exhausting to argue with their defenses! I'm just going to stay put where I'm at (this blog) and continue to support Trista and her family's efforts the best way that we can.

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    6. I like the way you explain that JMH, it makes perfect sense. I will try to do the same but it will take some time to reset my thoughts on this matter. I do not feel they are helping Ayla but instead defending Justin. It will be hard to rethink what they say is a fact and ignor the rest of the BS coming out of that group!

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  5. Great recap! What was the date that blood evidence was announced?

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    1. Thanks, Chicky! I updated it with that information (Jan. 30th in the timeline)!

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    2. Maybe someone could make a new "timeline" of sorts, with facts and evidence that has come out. Maybe including specific quotes from LE. Maybe some from Justin & Co, even Trista too. That would be pretty time consuming. I think there are things that have been spoken, that people forget or over look, such as Justin claiming:

      http://www.wmtw.com/Ayla-Reynolds-Father-Releases-New-Statement/-/8792672/9569964/-/10lpm75z/-/index.html

      "I would never do anything to hurt my child..."

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      Most of us are aware, that this is NOT a denial. It is speaking of the FUTURE, not the past. That does not say that he did not hurt Ayla.

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    3. Plus, now knowing that Justin has another child, he could have had his other child on his mind. He never said Ayla...

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    4. So true, Kit. As far as creating another timeline of events, I don't think I could do this; it took about three weeks to compile all of this info in my downtime and I've left quite a bit out unintentionally. There are so many details in this case that have been overlooked, misread, or swept under the rug by all and I think continuing to address them is a good thought.

      If you want to email me at j4a_guestposts@yahoo.com with more links and details I left out, maybe we could work together to update this into a full timeline of events that we can continue to publish accordingly. Love the idea; there are just so many details surrounding this case. Makes me crazy!

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    5. OK. It will take me a while too. I usually pop on throughout the day and throw in my $.02, and pop out. Sundays I usually have the most time and some nights. I will try to get some things together and send them as I go.

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    6. I like the idea too Kit. I cannot remember if it was here or on the Answers for Ayla sight, but one of the posts were on Justin's famous quotes. It was a really good post. It was not in timeline form but it is out there somewhere. I know a lot of the news articles are listed on Ayla's sight.. as mentioned above, and would be a good place to gather the info from.

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    7. Thanks PB. I will def. be looking at Answers for Ayla. They have a ton of links in chronological order. It will be a big help.

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    8. @Kit

      Another reason it's not an actual denial, is that the verb "would" is future predicating.

      Justin doesn't say I DIDN'T "hurt Ayla"...He doesn't even say I DIDN'T hurt "my child" (which could've, as you pointed out, actually be him referring to his SON).

      Maybe, he just now made a promise to himself that he "WILL NEVER AGAIN" hurt any child of his.
      Making "I WOULD NEVER HURT my child" a technically "true" statement...just not to the right QUESTION!

      Also, note that instead of choosing to use the terms my "KID", "DAUGHTER", "BABY", "LITTLE GIRL", or
      A Y L A...
      Nope.
      Justin chooses to use the term "CHILD", when speaking about Ayla:
      The term most often selected when talking about a victim of harm or abuse.

      Gee. I wonder WHY??
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  6. OT to the timeline, but I noticed these comments, on from here and one from another blog:

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    http://justiceforayla.blogspot.com/2012/05/for-further-discussion.html?m=0

    watervillegrl May 20, 2012 12:35 AM

    Holy crap i have tried wicked hard to post for like an hour. ok my sons father is one of lances best friends and few remaining friends and although he never talks to me about Lance he did say that lance was back living at violette ave and that justin moved back to portland he wouldnt tell me with who tho and defenitly didnt like that i asked. but when i said are you sure justin moved there he said yes...!!

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    http://aylastillmissingnotkidnapped.blogspot.com/2012/04/aylas-father-justin-dipietro-is-liar.html?m=0

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    ...Justin suffers from intense shyness which might surprise you but is like an intense phobia when it comes to public attention. Even if you had a keen eye you might've noticed that he had a very closed set in his interview.

    In situations of great stress such as this (fight or flight) your mind also goes blank, you get cold sweats, jelly-like legs, your blood pressure drops a bit so you also feel light-headed and you feel as though your having a heart attack. Most have experienced at least one in their life, but imagine how it feels to experience one on a regular basis. People who do start to live life in a phase known as "the avoidance technique".

    Those people prone to regular panic or anxiety attacks will do just about anything to avoid putting themselves in that position because of the intense feeling of lack of control and also the feeling of dying....

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    This is the first I've heard of Justin suffering any mental disorders. It's pretty sad to pass off his lack of compassion and love for Ayla, on to "anxiety", shyness, and panic attacks. ALSO, here is another double standard. It's perfectly fine for Justin to have mental disorder(s) (undiagnosed/treated?), but not Trista?

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    1. We've previously received information that details Justin's stance in his interviews, which has nothing to do with any mental disorders and has everything to do with not getting his way like an angry child.

      If he did suffer from some insane anxiety disorder, wouldn't his shyness keep him from attending a vigil and speaking towards a camera, posting on public forums, calling a total stranger (Adam, the teenager who blogs), sending his private text messages between he and Trista to a blogger to be his voice, etc. etc.? You'd think he'd also avoid any and all instances where he would be put in the spot light if that were the case. I know people that suffer from diagnosed anxiety disorders and it goes far beyond just "public attention", it also extends to social networking, social settings amongst friends, and every other instant where they are "put on the spot", so to speak.

      Nice try though, Lucifer's Hand. I just don't buy into that one. :)

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    2. I agree JMH, I'm not buying it. Besides the fact, there is NO disorder that would stop a parent from loving their child. Unless it is some kind of psychopath/sociopath disorder. A parent will do ANYTHING for their child(ren), no matter what! Most people, unless professional actors or speakers, are shy and afraid to speak publicly. There is NO excuse! JMO

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    3. If he does suffer from panic attachs maybe he should seek treatment.
      He has stated that he does not speak for fear of what the public will think of him and that he does not speak because he has nothing more to say.
      Panic attachs should not keep him from writing and answering question or pleading for Aylas safe return or to actually say how concerned and scared he is for her.
      Often people with panic attachs find paper and pen to be a safe place for them to say what they need to say.
      Not saying he may not have a panic issue but I do not feel that is an excuse. He panic may be incrdibly increased at this time by having to hide things,

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    4. Chicky, Kit, JMH, Lucifer is absolutely 100% wrong! I know being a male with some shyness and anxiety issues myself, if he suffered from this, HOW THE HELL DID HE GO TO CLUBS AND PICK UP DIFFERENT GIRLS ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE A REGULAR BASIS? Lucifer, you can't have it both ways to suit your defense of Justina!!!

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    5. JMH,you are right if someone has an anxiety disorder,they do not pick and choose where they go and what they can do,it controls them.They wouldnt be able to do some interviews and refuse others.Not to mention Justin said he does not care about what the public thinks ,people with a anxiety disorder,care very much what people think.They care too much.That is what keeps them from social situations. Justin does not have a problem with what anyone thinks he has said it many times.

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    6. I have panic attacks,in social situations,My question is Did Justin have these panic attacks before Ayla was missing? He didnt have a problem going to the crowded air show.He didnt see to have a problem at bars,that are very crowded.I can tell you all about panic disorders,I dont know if I could get in front of a camera with out having a panic attack,but I can tell you that I would have come right out and said that from the beginning! Instead of telling Derek to say,I dont care what the public thinks.That is why a lot of family's of missing children have a friend or family member be a spokes person for them,they are overwhelmed.Why doesnt Justin do that? Funny he didnt seem to have a social phoebia when he went to Jokers to buy his booze! Or when he goes to the bob in.

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    7. You know what makes panic attacks worse,quilt,lies,stress.I had a panic attack reading that shit.

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    8. Interesting. I had never considered that Justin might have a Social Anxiety Disorder. I don't know why, becaue yes, he does fit many of the symptoms. Which I know VERY well, as I have a daughter with the disorder.
      There are many different degrees of the Disoreder, and things that those with the disorder can and can not do. Actually there are different times in their lives when the symptoms are better, or worse. One month they may be able to do something socially, that the next month they are not. It can be very complicated, and extremely hard for those who haven't dealt with it to understand.

      I don't know if Justin has this disorder or not, but thinking about it, he does show signs and symptoms.

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    9. Thanks for contributing Anon 3:05.

      Didn't Justin work at a bar? What did he do there?

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    10. In situations of great stress such as this (fight or flight) your mind also goes blank, you get cold sweats, jelly-like legs, your blood pressure drops a bit so you also feel light-headed and you feel as though your having a heart attack. Most have experienced at least one in their life, but imagine how it feels to experience one on a regular basis. People who do start to live life in a phase known as "the avoidance technique".

      Those people prone to regular panic or anxiety attacks will do just about anything to avoid putting themselves in that position because of the intense feeling of lack of control and also the feeling of dying....

      Is this what they will present as is defense for his crimes? that he has a mental disorder, so was temporarily insane or had a psychotic break from stress, and hurt her during this behavioral emergency?
      Or hid his actions and his removal of daughter due to mental instability of his thought process and severe panic and fear issues? I'm not liking this statement one bit...FORESHADOWING!!!! I'm sticking a big red flag on this one...

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    11. Does this "disorder" also preclude parents of missing children from communicating with the Law Enforcement Agencies who are trying to find their child?

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    12. Justin is arrogant on camera. That dude doesn't have a shy bone in his body.

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    13. Emerald,
      I highly doubt that Social Anxiety Disorder could or would be used as a defence of someone commiting a crime. People who suffer from this are not temporarily insane, nor do they suffer psychotic breaks.

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    14. Lucifer's Hand: Isn't it pathetic that you, here, and on JSTL make it always about poor misunderstood Justin and his painfully shy disorder, rather than Ayla?

      Do you think any parent with an "abducted" child -- a child who may be being mistreated or raped or murdered -- cares that he suffers with any kind of mild or severe disorder and would ever let that malady keep him from trying to elicit any aid possible to find his child? Would that parent keep silent about what he knows as LE states becuse he is painfully shy?

      It makes no sense. Unless, of course, the scenario that is played out on JSTL day-after- boring-day "Trista took her; Jessica has her." is what propels Justin into catatonic silences about his missing daughter.

      And if Justin truly believes this, why does he keep silent about his knowledge of who has Ayla?? Protecting Trista? When all his minions are bashing her? Protecting Jessica? Justin feels like a big brother toward her? Just risible.

      What I hate is all this illogical poor baby Justin stuff from his legion of female fans who cannot come up with any good defenses for him. Come on, Lucifer's Hand. Why won't Justin point the finger at the culprit(s whom he seems to know since he wants immunity for them)...because he is intimately involved with them? A drug deal gone bad? (not that I believe that.) Ayla sold to a lovely couple in Texas for your rig money? Don't believe that, either. Come up with something that makes some kind of sense! That's all I'm asking of you who strives so hard to defend Peachy.
      __Pennyante

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    15. Anon @448-
      sarcastic!! he has no credible defense...and yes anxiety and panic disorders can certainly be co-morbid(occur together)with someone who has psychotic breaks,and can even be a trigger for them...I suggest you look at some actual cases to make that assessment on a general basis, as it is not so clean cut as the DSM-IV...

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    16. I have a friend that has anxiety in groups and I remember before she was properly medicated, she would have to go to Walmart just before closing to avoid people and she did not go to clubs or anywhere with more than a few people. Most importantly, she would not be able to get in front of 60 people and speak like I witnessed Justin do at the last vigil in Waterville. He did show an ackward smirk at the end that may have been shyness coming out, but not anxiety. If he took medications then to help, why has he not taken them since to speak out again??

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    17. I have not read the other comments yet, so I may find the answer myself. Do we know for sure if Justin is in Portland? Was he kicked out of Heidi's house because of declining business? Has DHHS showed up at the daycare and told them that it is NOT a good idea to have Justin around, or was that something they finally figured out? I made a comment a couple months ago, that I would not be surprised if Justin's motive to what happened to Ayla was that he wanted to get back to Portland...

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    18. Interesting thought Emerald, but I doubt JD had a psychotic break that immediately improved the day after Ayla went "missing" even if that's what his defenders will want us to believe--I guess they are testing the crazy card right now. I don't think he suffers from social anxiety--more like "you have the right to remain silent or anything you say can be used against you-itis" mixed with a little narcotic withdrawal-itis.JMO

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    19. Idk for sure if he moved to Portland. I just thought it was an interesting comment from "Lances best friends, childs mother". Maybe she'll re-confirm. Her comment was at the bottom of a thread people seemed to move on from, so there were no replies.

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    20. Heather, I think Emerald was being sarcastic. But I do agree with your diagnoses!

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    21. Yes,I was being sarcastic.
      I do not think he had a psychotic break from a mental illness issue, that was sarcasm as well...unless he was on drugs and severely sleep deprived and dehydrated, so, I guess it is possible he had a drug-induced psychotic break after partying hard on psychoactive drugs, with little to no sleep, water or food other than booze...
      he does look pretty fried in the picture in the driveway the day after the 911 call, and he was out all night in Portland the 15th, and neighbors say there was a small party/get together there that night, and possibly the weekend prior as well...

      in light of that, I'd say it is more likely that he had a drug-induced psychotic break than a social anxiety/general anxiety disorder or phobia...

      Really, I think it is a steaming pile of BULLSHIT, and as I do not think for one second that Justin has any type anxiety disorder unless it is severe anxiety and "emotional incapability" caused by thinking and telling the truth...

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    22. Well Well! No one would know more about sociological disorders than Lucifer, aye? Keep working for the Justin Dips of the world, you'll have an eternity with them- in Hell!

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    23. Interesting that name "Lucifer's Hand". What name can I adopt so that people will trust what I say? Gee, that's a good one!

      Or maybe we are meant to translate it into "The Devil's Advocate" as in a church lawyer. Now, that's more like it. Taking the opposite view in a case against the majority opinion on a person about to be made a saint.

      In the Catholic Church, the Devil's Advocate investigates and debates against the cannoniztion of a person about to be made a saint to make sure nothing, even seemingly slight, can be proven against person about to be raised so high in the saints' company. The Devil's Advocate's job is to prevent any candidate from receiving those honours whose life and death have not been juridically proved to have been "precious in the sight of God" .

      Maybe Lucifer's Hand is really on the side of the angels and is awakening us all to what will eventually be Peachy's defense.

      Nah.

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  7. Although Ayla wasn't there, how about Justins trip to Portland on or about Dec 15? I've always thought that it could be pertinent, especially given all the action around those few days.

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    1. going back to the beginning...a comment in the note has always bothered me...never have forgotten it....the explanation for the broken baby gate...why would you feel you needed to explain that???

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    2. It would be interesting to do a Justin time line by using what we know from him and from others.

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    3. If he suffered panic attacks he could speak through a family member. All he had to do was ask him brother, mom or sister to be spokesperson and to make the first order of business explaining why. Excuse rating = Epic fail.

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    4. Great work JMH. I would Second the Cumberland Farms event as something similar to. "12-15-2011 Justin is observed on video tape at 2:00 AM on 12-15 at the Portland Cumberland Farms without Ayla and no person has yet to claim to have Ayla in their care at that particular moment in time."

      Because it is such a magor unpredicted occurrence with videotape and no answer for Ayla's whereabouts health or safety. The prosecutors shall hammer him on this if he dares to take the stand. If he takes the witness stand he has to identify the other two people there and they must agree to corroborate that she is outside asleep in the vehicle. Then the examination of details for that sequence forwards and backwards in time from the other two witnesses arrival in Justin"s company to their departure. A major alibi stumbling point.

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  8. From AH timeline: "The night of Friday, December 16th, 2011 was no different than most any other night for the two months he'd been back. Everyone went to bed, Ayla was checked on at 10 pm, and sometime after 8 am on that Saturday morning, people in the house started waking up and realizing that their entire world had just turned into a nightmare."

    That's it? That is all Justin could say for the night of the 16th?

    Who put Ayla to bed? "no different than most nights", then it should not be hard to say what everyone was doing.
    Did you watch TV? Were you on the computer that night? Did anyone read Ayla a story before bed? If so, who did that? What time was supper/dinner? Who was there at supper/dinner time? Did you all eat together? Or did everyone do their own thing? Who fed Ayla? Who got her ready for bed?

    Seems to be a lot of gaps in that AH provided 'timeline'.

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    1. Not to mention, no mention of who arrived at what time, who saw Ayla and who did not? I think that if Courtney arrived late and Ayla was already in bed that that would not have been a "normal" night. What about Justin going outside at midnight and what about the loud noise that cause Elisha to wake up and snuggle Gabby closer to her? I think this timeline was taken off the TLLOM site because it was all bullcrap. IMO

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    2. Yes PB, I vaguely remember something about Justin going outside or even leaving... Do you remember where that was stated?

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    3. If I remember correctly, it was something that Heidi said... maybe in her interview with MS... but I am not 100% sure. The only places that I read is here, the Morning Sentinel and Answersforayla. I doubt that helps... lol

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  9. You guys may be not naming names when it comes to this son and mother, but you sure as hell are giving enough information for people to figure it out. You say you are trying to protect them by doing that, well clearly that is not your goal. It may be part of Justins character that he is not fathering this child, but you really don need to be putting up details about what is going to potentially make these people public. THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS! Why else would they not be coming out and say "Hey, guest what this is who we are." LEAVE THEM ALONE.

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    1. I think this has all been explained on the post regarding Justin's son.

      Nothing has been given out that says WHO they are

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    2. No, your right but the information reguarding time of birth, that they worked together, and all of that jazz sure can make it easy for someone to find someone, that doesn't want to be found.

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    3. We have information that would publish who the mother is, but we have chosen not to do so as it is an invasion of privacy. As stated previously, this information is only new to US...everyone involved directly in this case know this already, and picked it apart as they should have in Ayla's investigation. We were given approval to post the limited information as we have as it is directly related to Justin, his character, and his overall dishonest nature. Unfortunately for you, I suppose, that information has everything to with finding truth for Ayla.

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    4. So your telling me you had permission from who? THE MOTHER, or Trista and her family?

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    5. I agree. Likely, LE has talked with her. It should be fairly clear that if the child's mother felt she had something to contribute to the public's understanding she would have given an interview. She likely never met Ayla, and likely hadn't seen Justin in months. She is not a suspect. It seems evident that she wants no part in this whatsoever, understandably, and that should be her right. IMO

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    6. Maybe this mom needs a LAWYER To protect her from these vultures seeking personal info. SLANDER OR EXPOSING MINORS IS AGAINST THE LAW!!!! Say if someone is after any of these people "why put them at risk"? What does that say about you (WILL YOU BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE?)

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    7. Vultures? LOL.

      If what was posted about Tori's personal life (i.e., criminal record, family photos, home addresses of her relatives, direct links to her son's private accounts, etc.) was not illegal, than you could be sure as ever that posting a minor detail regarding a woman having a child who was conceived with Justin is also not illegal.

      It isn't slander, it isn't exposing a minor (as we haven't listed any names, hospital of delivery, baby's weight and measurement, dates of birth, dates of conception, how it happened, where she lives, photographs, WHATEVER)...it's nothing but a minor detail to support your boy's dishonest character. When will you realize that your attempts to defend this man mean nothing over here?

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    8. NO ONE is defending Justin, especially me in that initial post. Its protecting the son is my concern. Do you people not realize that stating they worked together, someone can easily find out where he worked and start questioning people???? Or that they even dated or anything of that nature? Like I said you are not protecting them at all. The first initial post should have never been posted with details of this EXCEPT that he had a son he doesn't care for. That could have been the extent of it. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO GO INTO DETAILS.

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    9. The details included in this post are nothing that was not originally posted by the Anonymous commentator at the Statement Analysis site. You should read through previous posts so that you could bring yourself up-to-speed. Pointing fingers at me for publishing something originally shared in December of 2011 is kind of ridiculous.

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    10. No, you guys just couldn't leave it alone. So now it is just stirred up again, and this mother has to know that her son is in jepordy of being brought into a situation he has no part of. You claim this is Justice for Ayla, which it was in the beggining. And then you write posts about how you dont want us making remarks about one or the other parents, YET all you do is bash Justin. Which you should. But there is no reason to be writing things about people who want nothing to do with this.Yes, I can understnad why you feel the need to know he has a son he doesn't take care of but there is no need to bring it up all the time!

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    11. Justin murdered Ayla. Houston to Lunar Module sorry you ran out of fuel up there on the dark side of the moon and all, but if you get real clever you might make it back.

      Get a grip.
      The motive to thin the herd and dispose of Ayla is much clearer and the mother made the same fateful choice Trista made. Everyone shall know her name because it shall be made public at trial. Get a grip.

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    12. That's the truth right there JMH. It is information already published in Dec 2011, and apparently, just recently confirmed. There has been no other information provided, besides a confirmation. If some do not believe either the fact itself, or the confirmation, maybe Justin will speak for himself. If they don't like the content of the information, that can't be helped. - Don't shoot the messenger. Maybe Justin can speak up for himself.

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    13. No one is defending anyone except said CHILD. AS for whom ever did anything to whom ever Tory is. I know nothing about this. Leave said mom and child alone.

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    14. Anon 12:35 and 1:31, it seems that you are the person keeping all discussion about Justin's son going. Perhaps if you dropped your insinuations about what people are trying to do, this subject would die a natural death.

      What is your personal interest in this anyway? You seem to be going a bit overboard in your defense for what little has been said about this child.

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    15. Anon 12:40 then what ? find her and do what? no one cares to bother this women or talk to her.You sound paranoid,we dont want to know her name,the childs name,He has another child end of story.what will do you think the media will chase her around? hell the media doesnt even bother Justin.Do you see them at his house? This women has nothing to worry about.She has nothing to do with Ayla missing.

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    16. Who I see bringing this up over and over again is this Anon. Posters here haven't posted anything about the mother or child, about caring or wanting to know who they are. What has been discussed is how this info reflects on JD. Why does that bother you so much?

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    17. Do you people not realize that stating they worked together, someone can easily find out where he worked and start questioning people???? Or that they even dated or anything of that nature? Like I said you are not protecting them at all. The first initial post should have never been posted with details of this EXCEPT that he had a son he doesn't care for. That could have been the extent of it. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO GO INTO DETAILS

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      I do respectfully have to agree with what this person says that the info did not have to be reiterated upon. Stating he has a son is one thing but where they met is a way of people finding out names maybe and i wonder if that is neccesary right now.

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    18. The following data, often used for the express purpose of distinguishing individual identity, clearly class as PII under the definition used by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (described in detail below):[1]
      Full name (if not common)
      National identification number
      IP address (in some cases)
      Vehicle registration plate number
      Driver's license number
      Face, fingerprints, or handwriting
      Credit card numbers
      Digital identity
      Date of birth
      Birthplace
      Genetic information
      The following are less often used to distinguish individual identity, because they are traits shared by many people. However, they are potentially PII, because they may be combined with other personal information to identify an individual.
      First or last name, if common
      Country, state, or city of residence
      Age, especially if non-specific
      Gender or race
      Name of the school they attend or workplace
      Grades, salary, or job position
      Criminal record
      When a person wishes to remain anonymous, descriptions of them will often employ several of the above, such as "a 34-year-old white male who works at Target". Note that information can still be private, in the sense that a person may not wish for it to become publicly known, without being personally identifiable. Moreover, sometimes multiple pieces of information, none sufficient by itself to uniquely identify an individual, may uniquely identify a person when combined; this is one reason that multiple pieces of evidence are usually presented at criminal trials. It has been shown that, in 1990, 87% of the population of the United States could be uniquely identified by gender, ZIP code, and full date of birth.[2]
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personally_identifiable_information

      What information defined as Identifiable Info has been released about this woman and her son? NONE. The only person harping on this is you anon. I ALREADY KNOW the name of the mother, I don't need to sleuth her out and nothing that has been released on this blog would allowed anyone else to sleuth her out. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. STOP BRINGING THE CHILD UP IF YOU DON'T WANT HIM TALKED ABOUT!

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    19. HEY! Disgruntled Anon, Get A Grip on yourself, the people that worked with Justin and his other baby Mama ALREADY KNOW who they are.

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    20. Wow! Aren't the Justin minions predictable? Deflect, deflect! "Don't look at the guy behind the curtain, look at this! Look here! See this smoke and mirrors? You meanies! You bullies! "

      Kill the messenger before the real message gets out.

      Justin, the emperor, has no clothes! (Ewww! The thought gags me, by the way.)

      __Pennyante

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    21. Unfortunitly, altough I understand what you are saying, people know about his son and they will keep bringing it up. Its like atoms bumping against each other to carry sound. Ive read many blogs where anons bring up the " said child". Trying to stop people from talking about it would be like trying to stop free running water, it will keep running just in another direction. Ill say nothing more about it because the only relavance here is what type of father it proves justin to be.

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    22. It seems like the anon who brought this issue up either personally knows or IS the other mother. I imagine she and her friends and family are following this case as closely as they can. S/he stated "all you do is bash Justin. Which you should. But there is no reason to be writing things about people who want nothing to do with this." That does not sound like a fan of Justin's. We understand that Jeff gave you the woman's name and that you're "choosing" not to publish it; however, today's post had more hints of identity in it than previously. Anon may also have concern how much more is going to be leaked? There was a very long (and well-written) post by J4A a couple days ago about welcoming and wanting other opinions and being respectful.

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    23. Sorry, I have to say this and then I will shut up (sit on hands). I to am concerned for the mother and child. Not because of what this blog has posted (or not) but because Justin has had a paternity test, has been filed against for support, and denied visitation of the child. Does this sound familiar to Aylas circumstances before her disappearance?

      The only person to be concerned of already knows both the mother and son! I hope LE is watching this family for protection from the guy who drove his brother for something he didn't pay attention to. I hope that LE is watching Justin so no other child is grabbed when the mother is not standing beside the child.

      I don't want to know anymore information about the mother or son, I want to know from Justin himself several key peices of information;
      1. Why have you not previously supported your son?
      2. Was a LIP purchased for this child?
      3. Did you claim this child on your taxes with Ayla?
      4. Why did this child remain out of your vocabulary and thoughts until know?
      5. Why have you lied to Courtney about this child?
      6. Are there any other children the taxpayers of Maine are paying for?
      7. Why are the mothers to blame for being on state aide if you are such a great dad (BS)?
      8. I want to know all about Justins great character and how the minions are still willing to blindly follow him even after they now know he was lying to them?
      9. Was JD thrown out of the Tudela Manse for lying about the son?
      10. Why Justin, did you allow all of this to occur when you could have stopped it the day it happened by being honest with LE from the start?

      The one thing I do not want answered is anything personnal in nature about the family. The one thing that this site will not and has not published!!

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  10. I dont see anything information to figure out who there are.Where is it? What information are you referring to?

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    1. they are,sorry typo

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    2. Don't bother to reply about info. They are now digging and hoping for more info to be out there. They are hoping to keep topic up there so info will be leaked by others to save them from a law suit.

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    3. Anonymous, 12:34PM, that is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen since I stopped visiting that other blog.

      How would you know what is in another persons heart or what they want to happen? Sounds like the only person worried about the digging is YOU.

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  11. "After Justin and Phoebe left with Ayla, the officer stated to Becky that: "if he had his way, he would not have let Ayla go with Justin." This poor guy must be having nightmares. Can you imagine going against your instinct and turning a baby over to someone who strikes you as untrustworthy/irresponsible/threatening or whatever emotion was involved and having the baby come up missing shortly thereafter?

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  12. Regarding this timeline: When Justin allegedly stated, "Because I'm not going to have you telling me what to do," It sent chills down my spine. During Trista's interview right after Ayla was reported missing, she stated that "Me and her father have been fighting constantly, and I didn't want to fight no more" Could this be the reason why we no longer have Ayla with us? A controller hates being controlled. Was this his way of severing Trista's control over his life??? The same way Casey Anthony (excuse the comparison) ended her daughter's life in order to sever her mother's control over her? Casey's OWN grandmother stated that she believed Casey Anthony HATED her mom MORE than she loved Caylee. I believe that Justin was sleeping with Trista in order to manipulate and control her.

    On another note, when Justin was at the awareness event for Ayla and was asked questions about the blood, refusing to answer them, he stated that he was there to "show his support FOR THE COMMUNITY that is supporting Ayla". That stood out to me. I wasn't looking for it. It felt odd and I thought about it for a minute and decided it was odd because he did not say that he was showing support FOR AYLA, but that he was showing support FOR THE COMMUNITY that is supporting Ayla. Weird. Why would he not say that he was there to support Ayla? Because he does not support finding Ayla or that's exactly what he would have said. He showed up to support the community TO MAKE HIM LOOK like a concerned father. He showed up to support HIMSELF.

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    1. I agree, CML. Great points, thanks for sharing!

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    2. Great insights. Justin doesn't care about anyone except himself. It is sickening to think that he has so little regard for human life and even more, human life that he helped to create.

      Ayla will have justice and the perpetrators of the crimes against Ayla will be punished. I have faith in the LE.

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    3. ITA, I thought it a bit strange Trista answered for him " were here for ayla, right?" It was an answer and a question and she looked a bit dissapointed with his response and backed away a little. And what did justin say when she asked about the blood? It sounded like, I dont know anything about that. But im not sure I heard it right.

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    4. Stormy, I think he said "Don't worry about that right now". I think. That is another statement that sends chills down my spine. The total disregard is enough to make you do a double take. Huh?!? If you really think about it, it's almost perfect. Justin being "interviewed" and Trista just walking right up to him and asking him about the blood. I mean the fact that his reaction is caught on camera is invaluable.

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    5. I think he said, "don't worry about that" but I don't know if I am 100% correct. Either way, he minimized the existence of the blood.

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    6. Yes, I'm 99.9% sure that's what he said J4A. I just watched it yesterday. That is exactly what I *heard*, so if he said something else, then I misheard/understood him. There is a really good link, I could hear him quite clear at aylastillmissingnotkidnapped.

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    7. Yes, J4A that is what he said. I included the link to the video in this post also (same as on the blog Kit mentioned here).

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  13. Out of curiosity - have Justin or any of the Dip's, Courtney, Tudela's etc been tending the peach tree planted for her by her paternal family, or has it been neglected, unloved and left to die? ........ Concerned UK

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    1. Perhaps LE should be checking under that peach tree. :(

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    2. Wasn't it a Justin supporter online over at TLLOM who actually planted a tree for Ayla? Somehow it got around that it was Justin, but I believe that was corrected by HT and the planter to Justin and the Dips only "approving" the tree planting.

      Tree planting is for a deceased person, usually, isn't it? At my father's funeral, I received two trees to plant.
      __Pennyante
      Can anyone clear up the DiPietros planting a tree? I don't think they did.
      __Pennyante

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    3. I do not think he planted the tree either. Why would there have been no media, no LE, no announcement for supporters to attend. I think it was a release to the TLLOM group to make JD look good in the eyes of the supporters and that is all!

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  14. The other thing I would like to see in that timeline is Bob Vear's statement about Lance asking him how to clean up blood and then his realization of learning that Ayla's blood was in the basement at the vigil. I don't remember where he posted that or if it's still available. I believe he wrote that he went to LE with that information too. Does anybody else know where his statement was made?

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    1. I started the one with LE statements and facts. I've already found a couple things that have been possibly overlooked/forgotten and I'm still in December. It's going to take a while, and probably be long. Maybe JMH can shorten it/edit it when I'm done. I'll try to add things like you mentioned above, or maybe make a second one with less formal info (not from LE/news). I know things like BV's statements and AH's original story can be found at the SA blog. A lot of things were copied and pasted before being deleted/edited.

      I didn't/don't want it super long, but I keep finding important details, things that I've seen people questioning.

      Maybe, should it be done monthly? Do people want to read an entire post regarding each month, starting in December though? Or more condensed/all together?

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    2. Exactly, Kit. I didn't expect it to get SO long and detailed, but when I started looking through the timeline and events leading (and following) Ayla's disappearance, it turned into a massive document. I didn't intentionally leave out many details, but got lost in the timeline as I was doing it. Thanks for putting all of this together! It took me a little less than a month for this post, so I am hopeful it won't take you that long. xo

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    3. Vear was posting on FB and on a marijuana site- rollit something or other. His FB posts are down but are preserved on other sites- I think maybe they are quoted on Statement Analysis.

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    4. Kit, My Opinion -I would like to see everything on one post, even if it is long. .. and I like the idea about adding it as new statements come out... maybe it would be a good idea to have it's own tab up top? Maybe just a post here stating that new imformation has been added, as it is added.... ???? Would that be possible?

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    5. OK, I'll try to fit it all together. Idk if there is a character limit or anything with the posts.

      The tab would probably be up to J4A. I'm not going to put every single article, just important info/quotes - which is a lot.

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  15. Everyone talks of another blog other camp, what is the name of it? I would like to check it out like I did this one. Many of the things I've read hear are pretty one sided and I have gotten accused of knowing and being apart of this camp so I want to see what they write about. I did read that this blog was started to view all sides and o get conversations going. I have not been able to voice any comments or questions w/o getting chastised. Maybe there I won't get that. Thank you for your new time line now I won't have to go back and read this blog.

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  16. You won't find it by googling Ayla, but if you google Satan you will find it. It does not have Ayla in the name and they rarely talk of Ayla. Good luck, with the Trista bashing, experience

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    1. Good one suz! Or google Lucifers Right Hand! Hehehe...

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  17. What was that Suz? If you have no knowledge of the site why would you respond we aren't in high school. I have my own opinions and can make them on my own. Thank you anyways

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  18. I have full knowledge iof the site, but will not advertise for them on this site. No one should promote evil sites. Find it yourself. Ask Justiin Dipietro or Derek Tudela or Selena Johnson.

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    1. We appreciate your support, Suz!

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    2. Suz, chances are that Anon 4:04 PM already knows where that blog is, participates there and is just going for free advertising. Apparently that blogger is getting tired of talking to herself. ;)

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    3. Yea she writes just like Obscure or Lucifer's Hand come to think about it. He or she will fit right in.

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    4. Anon 404 Seriously, I have not.i don't know the name of it. Please don't call me a liar. That is so untrue. I guess you don't want many following w you all. I'm sorry for my intrusion to your blog JMH, KIT AND WHOM EVER ELSE WORKS on this. My heart goes out to AYLA.

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    5. Annon, if you went to that site you would be chastised and chewed up, believe me.

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  19. I have to say, I truly admire the residents around the portland/waterville area...Justin has yet to have the crap beat out of him and I find that shocking...I'm not sure if I lived there, if I could contain myself...WHERE IS AYLA???

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    1. sorry, i'm so frustrated, thats all i can think of to say today...i'm still crying after watching the video of Trista begging for answers...

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    2. So sad. Trista deserves answers and real Justice

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    3. ITA anon 4:57 I live on the other side of the country and ive, more than once thought about how much I would love torturing the truth out of him if I lived in that area. Idk if I did if I would have the self control to not take action. All I can say is I bet he hides. Stays inside or has someone with him at all times.

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  20. Some poster over on the Waterville Morning Sentinel posted (paraphrasing) "Ha! You think Justin has only two kids? Look around."

    Of course, anyone can say anything on the Net, but I recall it was on the Sentinel early on in the case where I read a poster claiming that Ayla was not Justin's only child. So does he have more?

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    1. it is possible, only one has filed with the courts thus far besides Trista, so that is two...who knows, it would not come as a surprise

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    2. Will never know now. Any mother smart enough would never file at this point.

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    3. That it wouldn't.

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  21. After reading above and almost every post and comment, I decided to write a poem for ayla. To express how confusing everything must have been for her. I did this by thinking about what my own children might feel if they had been on the same journey as ayla. I call this Aylas Journey Who is this guy? Who just walked through the door? Who is Daddy? I've never met him before... Where am I going? Who am I with? Where is my mommy? What did I miss? Why are you angry? Always hurting me? Im only crying cause I miss mommy! Do I have to go? Go visit Daddy some more? I want to stay here! I'll throw a fit on the floor! Where is my mommy? Where did she go? Who are these people? Strangers I dont know! .... What happened to me? Where have I gone? I want to come home.. It's been so long!

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    1. wow...thats beautiful...this has really been a tearful day...

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    2. That was beautiful, Stormy. Thank you for sharing that with us; it brought tears to my eyes and goosebumps down my arms. Sweet Ayla. :(

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  22. Beautiful poem Stormy

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    1. Thank you suz, I was overwhelmed by the timeline! I feel soo bad for trista, worse for ayla and such anger towards justin. Weather justin did, which I beleive is the case, or did not do something to ayla at her " dissapearance" he did harm her in the first place that is obvious. I just wanted to put some words out there for ayla, since she cant speak for herself.

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    2. If Justin didn't really take care of Ayla, or let his "committment" to her interfere with his partying life-style that much, perhaps someone else close to him is the one who abused and finally hurt Ayla.

      Perhaps Justin is taking most of the flack for this other person. It may well be why Lance shut up pretty early on and then warned his friend to stop looking for Ayla.

      How long will Justin go on before he throws said person under that bus? That is, if he is not the one who injured Ayla.

      Of course this theory is all predicated on the supposition that Justin cares for someone besides himself. Obviously, Ayla didn't come under that heading.

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    3. That's a good thought, Anon. I know I have shared a similar thought of my own in that light; we will get all of the details at some point once this case and its investigation are completed and it goes to trial...I truly hope that it does and that it does not turn into a "cold case".

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  23. Stormy, you dumped rain in my eyes..

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    1. Chicky, I did not mean to make you cry. I was reading a mystry novel the other day and in it a read a passage that went something like this: Bad guy "I fed the wrong dog" cop " what do you mean" bad guy " every person has a good and bad side, whichever side you chose the most, is the dog your feeding and the person you will become, I fed the wrong the wrong dog, you fed the right one." As I have a stepson with several emotional disorders im playing with ideas on how to use this in a way a child will understand. I think justin dipietro fed the wrong dog.

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    2. That's okay Stormy, a chicky (duck) likes water! I am easily brought to tears lately, each day that Ayla is not returned home, and I've been sick for a few days so I'm a mess! LOL

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  24. That was beautiful Stormy.

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