Thursday, May 17, 2012

Random Questions...

Heidi and Darrell Tudela
Courtesy of Facebook


One question that is bothering me is Why is Justin still living with the Tudela's five months later? I can understand Heidi and Darrell taking him and his family in, out of the goodness of their hearts, while LE was going over their house with fine toothed comb. Why though would he continue to stay there after the house was released back to the family? Why is he staying with the parents of his best friend and not with his friend instead?

I had received an email from a friend who is or was close to the case at one time who informed me that Lance was pretty upset with Elisha a few days after Ayla was reported missing. Apparently Elisha questioned Justin about his involvement in Ayla's disappearance. If this account is to be believed, even Elisha who was in the house the night Ayla vanished, isn't even sure herself that her big brother didn't do something to her niece. Apparently Elisha thinks Justin is capable of such a thing or would not have even had to ask that question. 



Shortly after Ayla went missing Elisha and Phoebe retained their own attorney independently from Justin. I had initially thought that maybe Elisha was guilty and had gotten the lawyer to protect herself in the event that charges were pending but maybe I was wrong and maybe Elisha hired an attorney to protect herself from going down along with Justin for the sake of her own child. Maybe Elisha is smarter than she looks. How much did Elisha say to the police who interrogated her after Ayla's disappearance? Did she also express her concern that Justin possibly had something to do with Ayla vanishing? Is that why Justin does not want to return to the house on 29 Violette Ave? Does his mother and sister even want him to? Does Elisha rightfully fear for Gabby's safety while he is in the house? 

When Jeremy Hanson broke the windows in the DiPietro home, why wouldn't that be a signal to Justin that his family may not be safe and that he should man up and be home to protect them in case someone else tries to take matters into their own hands? Why leave two women and a helpless baby to fend for themselves? 



You have to wonder if Justin is living with the Tudela's because they are supporting him and it is a nice comfortable living arrangement for him. Is he taking them from all they are worth? Who is paying for Justin's attorney? It certainly is not Justin who is not working and still responsible for paying child support to his son and don't forget those premiums so Ayla's life insurance policy doesn't lapse. How can Justin afford his own attorney? I can't believe Phoebe is footing the bill since she is the only one who is actually getting paid to work in the family. 

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Why is Justin not living at home? Was something similar to what was asked of Isabel Celis's father put into play here where LE asked Justin not to be around Gabby? Is that why MSP contacted the mother of Justin's other child, to warn her? 

Courtesy of AFA
Oh and thanks to Answers For Ayla for this gem of a picture. Check out Phoebe and Selena in the background, if looks could kill right? 



Why Thanks Justin!












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272 comments:

  1. OMG! I was not able to finish reading yet. I could not get past Justin's new shirts!! HaHaHa. Priceless!

    Is the Selena, walking with Phoebe?

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    1. I was told that yes that is Selena walking with Phoebe, isn't it funny the difference a full body shot and a head shot can make? Not sure if you have seen Selena's photos of herself on facebook or not but I did not expect her to look that way from the head down. :)

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    2. This entire article is worthless. It provides no information at all. It is mostly a series of suggestive questions, which have to be presented as questions since there is no factual basis for assertions. But Tori's immaturity shines through quite clearly.

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    3. No, I never had the displeasure of seeing her, before this picture. I've seen enough to last quite a while...

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    4. Anon if you feel that way, please submit a guest post to Tori and I am sure she will post it for you. I, for one, find these questions very pertinent and relevent to this case! Thank you Tori!

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    5. There you are anon, the one person who always checks the "disagree" box at the bottom of the post, it never fails there is always one lone person who does it.

      Glad you like the post ;)

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    6. Anon, I don't see how asking questions about the last people to SEE Ayla, is worthless. If you want to see worthless and immaturity, there is plenty of that elsewhere. "Over there", where they talk about, and post pictures of people, who are in NO WAY, whatsoever, involved in Ayla's case. THAT is worthless, immature, and a waste of time. Speaking about and asking questions about people actually involved in the case, the very people who last saw Ayla, is in no way worthless OR immature.

      And, actually I would think you guys would appreciate Li's involvement being question, a positive thing.

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    7. Ghosting people, ghosting! Maybe if we ignore her, she'll go back to her own blog where she can play with herself, and her multiple personalities.

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    8. Kit the shirt that says: not 1/2 guy, doesn't it look like Justin is rapping?

      BTW, don't you like my slogan? Not 1/2 guy? LOL it was a typo, but it's got a certain ring to it.

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    9. Remember my post about if Elisha and Court never saw Ayla put to bed?
      If they had not seen her that day or night, they could very well be innocent of the actual event that befell poor Ayla in the basement, but could have figured out after the fact Justin lied to them, and used their real panic at not finding her as a cover for his lack of emotion, since he was responsible(making lying convincingly almost impossible...) and removed Ayla before Elisha and Courtney even got to the house that late afternoon/night...

      I have thought a lot on this, and it makes sense, with Phoebe's Freudian slip of "normal day" when asked about the NIGHT before she was found gone..,
      and because she was reported missing with her sling, something she would have been wearing during the daytime, not night, in bed..
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      And also because Justin was not home from Portland until the morning of the 16th, and Derek Tudela recently let out on JSTL that his play date, the one with his son, was on the morning of the 16th, not the day, as his mother stated in the interview, Derek was present, and paying rap[t attention, and he failed to correct this discrepancy with the juornalist, though he knew it was false, he allowed it to fly!!

      Derek Tudela knowingly let his Mother Heidi release false information to a reporter who was putting it into the paper...

      only problem: Derek must have gotten to the house right as Justin got back, still hungover...

      Justin told his portland roomates that he was too hungover from partying the night before(the 15th) to get out of bed, to take Ayla to her Dr. appt.

      Following the logic leads to the conclusin that Jusitin either drove home drunk that morning, or he lied to his roomates, and was removing Ayla after hurting her, since he was very likely the only one home that morning and day with her...

      If Elisha ans Courtney never saw he that night, then she was injured and removed before they got home, or removed from the house, and stored in the green shed or garage, barely alive, until he could sneak her out out later on...and so Elisha would have ample reason to ask if he had anything to do with it, after putting 2 and 2 together...

      I think LE knows all this, and is ready now.This is why they have not released a statement abut the first set of items found...It may have been the last thing they needed for the the Grand Jury...

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    10. Yes Emerald, that does make a lot of sense. I've been thinking along those lines also. I think derek saw Ayla, but not for a "playdate".

      Yes Bride, it does look like he's rapping. His pose and facial expression really add something to his new wardrobe... ;)

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    11. Interesting theory. A couple of thoughts on it. If Ayla being in bed as early as Elisha got home was unusual, that would certainly set off the suspicion meter, at least after the fact. But isn't it odd she wouldn't have checked on Ayla at some point, sleeping in the closest bedroom and not hearing from her all evening long? And if by morning she still hadn't heard a peep, would she get up and go about her normal routine without even peeking in? Where was Gabby- wouldn't Gabby have asked about Ayla?

      I don't think the playdate timing "discrepancy" is significant. Day v. morning? One is more general, the other specific. Since they are going from general to specific, it seems more like clarification than inconsistency.

      Him being hungover and tired makes a lot of sense if he lashed out on that day. Shades of the Dasher case.

      As to why Justin is out of the house, I doubt the family is worried about protecting Gabby- they are so defensive of J they probably deny to themselves it could ever happen again. I think the public outcry about Gabby's safety combined with Linnell's court petition probably spurred them to make make arrangements that would minimize the risk of court or DHHS intervention.

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    12. @Curious - Good thought about them wanting him out of the house to limit DHHS involvement with them re: the Linnell case. I hadn't thought of that. And yes, hungover, headache and tired in a person with anger issues anyway are not a good combo with a toddler around who wants/needs attention. I could see him lashing out like in the Dasher case.

      @ Emerald - You always have such good insights into this situation. If ED didn't know or suspect until after the fact, why did she flunk her poly - which I think she did? Because the poly came after she found out what her brother had done and she lied to protect him?
      And where is CR? If she truly didn't know either and all this info is now coming to light making JDip look so guilty, why would she stay with him? Or are they still together? Does anyone know for sure?

      I said at the very beginning that the HT and JDip frienship was wierd. My kids friends are their friends not mine. I know them and associate with them through my kids but they are NOT my friend. I thought from the first when HT inserted herself in this case that she was protecting HER family. She was just too invested and vocal for it to be all about a friend of her kid.

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    13. Sorry for the Typos...weird, not wierd and friendship not frienship.

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  2. My guess is that Heidi is keeping Justin close.... controlling his mouth and his actions in an attempt to keep him from bringing them down with him... can you say LIP?!

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    1. BINGO, we have a winner folks!

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    2. I think State Farm better start their own investigation, ASAP. The State Farm name is being tarnished. What do you think of NOW, when you hear State Farm? I think of Ayla, and a hinky LIP. I think of possibly hinky/corrupt State Farm agents/salesmen. Maybe if State Farm becomes proactive, I might view them in a different light.

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    3. DITTO, Kit!!! Great idea! Who wants to email Statefarm customer service/ asset protection??? Like PHyatt said, if they get the insurance investigators working the case they'll not know what hit 'em!

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    4. I can guarantee state farm started one the week this came out, and will not tell the Tudelas that they are being internally investigated either...

      State Farm is a huge corporation, very impersonal, all about liability, odds and MAKING MONEY!!

      The Tudelas are essentially an expendable item to State Farm in the bigger picture...they eat people like the T's for breakfast...

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  3. Elisha questioning justin about his involvement, Elisha and Phoebe having thier own attourney, Elisha say WE (i think meaning just her and phoebe) did nothing wrong, Elisha, Gabby and Phoebe left to protect themselves while Justin lives at the Manse, no comments from Phoebe Li or Lance about Justins son?? Alot of indicators Justin is being distanced from his family. Especially Elisha questioning him and Lance being upset about it.

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    1. I think that Elisha has made some half assed attempts in the media lately to proclaim her brother's innocence but no one is buying it, she couldn't even look up when saying it, instead had her eyes focused on her feet. I don't think she believes it herself but maybe Phoebe is making her publicly say she thinks he is innocent so she can restore family harmony?

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    2. I thought it was strange and cowardice of Justin to leave Elisha to go to the walk, by herself. Phoebe to show up late. Why is he leaving everything up to everyone else? How long until they all get sick of it? Mainly Elisha?

      She used to have to get up with Ayla, and bring her to Justin, at night. I'm sure she did her fair share of babysitting. How about when Justin stayed out all and/or long nights?

      Resentment must be setting in by now.....

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    3. Actually if we think about it, Justin was living in portland for 5 years! that is a long time to be away from the family. I wonder how much interaction he had with his family during those 5 years? Did he go to Waterville alot to see his family, or just make phone calls once in awhile? People change, shit happens, Then five years later, he moves back in, with Ayla, the whole household is turned upside down for them. I could understand if Elisha has her own doubts about Justin and his actions towards Ayla. Maybe, just maybe, she is not talking for the love and protection of Gabby. She too has done alot to protect her own daughters safety from the baby daddy..who's to say she isnt still doing the same from Justin?

      Now having said that, and when this case goes to the grand jury..i just cant for the life of me see Elisha not standing up for herself and telling what she knows about what happened to Ayla..if she truly wasnt a huge player in Ayla's "disappearence".

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    4. Hopefully the GJ will convene again soon and maybe the new items found will be relevent and enough to bring this group of heartless cowards in front of them. I know here we have a clause that allows the AG to call for special convening of the GJ if they feel it appropriate. If this is allowed up there, I wonder if we hear anything further about the items or if it will immediately go to the GJ???

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  4. I think Derek bought that shirt for Justin.Thats Justins goal to be a half way decent person,Your not there yet Jusstin.Your going in the wrong direction.

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    1. I think instead of shirts that say I'm with stupid, though it may fit< Peach and Derek ought to both have shirts that say I'm with a 1/2 decent guy with arrows pointing to each other. Maybe together they can be a decent wanna-b-guy (definately not men)!

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  5. Elisha is just as guilty. Remember she couldn't pass the poly. She did fine my ass. Nothing but a family of no conscience liars. Selena looks like she writes...IMO

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    1. If the e-mail is accurate about Lance being upset with Elisha, she may not have none at first. But I agree, by not speaking up when she figured it out, she is now just as guilty!!

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    2. I think she may know now, or at least had so much suspicion of Justin, that alone caused her fail.

      People know their siblings. They may not think they are capable of murdering their own child, or may not want to admit thinking they could. But, deep down, they know.

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    3. Elisha obv has self esteem issues. I think she was mean to ayla. I think she had a hand in abusing ayla. I will bet ed was extremely jealous of ayla taking attention from gabby. If true gabby was a light sleeper how did it work with both girls in one room. Trista said ayla like to get up a couple times in the night for a bottle. That had to wake gabby and wit justin downstairs in the soundproof basement who would get ayla's bottle? you would think ayla would need a diaper change as well. I'm sure that was not going over well with elisha. Elisha is the smartest of the dips n for her to risk losing her daughter seems to me she must be involved. It's still in the back of my mind about pd being a suspect in a murder case yrs ago. Cold cold ppl.

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    4. Anon 8:04. I agree! Her outward appearence shows that her self esteem is extremely low. I have too thought that she probably took the frustrations of having Justin and Ayla interrupt the household on poor baby Ayla. Also, I think it is absurd that people are letting Justin get away with his stupid excuse of putting Ayla to bed and not checking on her for 12 or so hours. If your theory is correct, then why isn't Elisha being pressured more about Ayla NOT being checked on ALL night?
      Hey ED if you truly do think Ayla was kidnapped don't you think that it is weird that Ayla did not wake up all night and if Gabby is a light sleeper why didn't you check on Ayla when you checked on Gabby? huh?

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    5. Elisha couldn't pass it because she knew her brother was lying...she couldn't honestly say she had no idea, as she had an idea, that her brother lied, which means he did something wrong...GONG!! do not pass go, do not collect $200, unless it is on a prepaid credit card, right Justin?

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    6. I agree Emerald. Plus, she did "fine". She could have very well passed SOME questions and not others.

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  6. Is that Selena in the black leather jacket and Phoebe in the white jacket? I thought Selena looked stunning in her facebook photos. In the black jacket, she looks like a different person.

    I wonder why Phoebe's other sister, Naomi Dorr, hasn't made an appearance in this case. Brother Guido is unaccounted for as well.

    Do we know for certain that Justin is staying with the Tudela's? Maybe he was asked to leave the Violette house by his mom and/or sis. You never know.

    Why was Lance upset with Elisha? Was it because Lance thought Elisha should be more trusting of Justin?

    I know this case isn't funny, but the one-half decent guy photo made me LOL.

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    1. Or maybe he was asked to leave by MSP after an order of non-contact signed by a judge (like they did I think with the Celis), or maybe by the lawyer retained by Li and Phoebe to protect his clients, or maybe by his own lawyer to protect himself. As you say, you never know!

      I find the Lance being upset comment very prudent though. I think that question you answered exactly right!

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  7. OK, seriously...

    Yes, it is very strange for Justin to be staying with his BFF's family. Not his own family (none of them). Not his friend. His friend's family.

    Yes, I've been wondering what Elisha does actually know. According to Selena, Gabby, who was sleeping with Elisha, was startled awake at 3am, on early morning Dec. 17th.

    I'vr since been wondering if that is true. With some parallel lying thrown in.

    Maybe Gabby awoke while Justin was removing Ayla.

    Who was with Justin? Who would you trust with such a secret? Who would help you, in such a horrific crime? Who would possibly not cast judgement, and ask too many questions? Who would not call LE on you? Who would help you cover it up, and not push you to call LE?

    Your mother? Your sister?

    No! Most likely, your BFF!

    Is this why HT is so concerned with defending Justin? If Justin goes down, derek is going down too!

    Where were YOU, derek, at 3am on Dec. 17th?

    Where is Ayla?

    BTW, how did Justin NOT hear anyone/anything through the PLASTIC (trash bag?) window, in his bedroom/basement? The basement window closest to Ayla's bedroom window had no glass in it, just plastic. How is plastic sound proof? (thanks Selena, for making the kidnapping scenerio even LESS plausible!).

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    1. Thanks Kit for bringing this up, I was actually going to go ahead and do a post on it tomorrow.

      Not only was there no glass in the basement window under Ayla's room and covered in only plastic, Justin's bed, according to Selena, was RIGHT UNDER THAT WINDOW! How do you not hear someone either climb out a window with a baby in their arms ESPECIALLY when they land with a thud on the ground LITERALLY at your head or someone walking around outside that same window waiting for someone to pass a baby through the window to someone else, you wouldn't wake up hearing the window, screen, and storm window slide open and close? ESPECIALLY when there is no glass over the basement window? PUHLEASE!

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    2. Tori or Kit, Could one of you post a link to the picture with the plastic covering the window? Or is this something you saw locally?

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    3. Selena openly admitted that, "over there". That's why I thanked her, for once again, offering up TMI!

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    4. Thanks for the update Kit! Scary thought, I might have to read a bit more over there. No way, I will let you keep updating me. No need for both of us to get that upset with the antics over there.

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    5. There would have been footprints if you look at JD's tires they have mud on them,and mud on the edge of the lawn,no way someone could walk through it and not leave a print.

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    6. Selena to Phoebe:

      "I asked where Justin had his bed.She said right here."

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      Where is Justin's bed now?? Was it moved? Removed? Why is he not waiting for "kidnapper" to return Ayla, safe and sound, to where she was taken from? Phoebe's basement is not as nice as the McMansion? Doesn't have sweeping views? Or is it the guilt and nightmares of how Ayla's blood got next to the bed, that keeps him from resting his head down in his house? OR did Phoebe and Elisha want him out of there?

      I can't WAIT to see Selena on the stand. Well, I can't wait to see all of them on the stand, but Selena is the one who provides way too much info, repeatedly. Maybe if she talked to her "family", about Ayla once in a while, she would know what to say and what not to say. Speaking of which, if she has never spoken to them about Ayla's "kidnapping", how does she have all that information she provided? Lying... Runs in the family, I guess...

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    7. Kit, Your post just brought a silly thought to my mind, but maybe Justin is still staying at the McManse because LE has his bed impounded as evidence. Dam it, I hate having to say that but it would make sense since we know they have all thier funds tied up in all the legal proceedings against them right now. I still think there is much more to it then the bed in LE custody though!

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    8. There could be some truth to that - as far as the bed being gone. Wasn't LE reported to have "removed a large object" from the Dips home???

      Although, bed or not, if he wanted to & was allowed to...JD could sleep on the couch or use an inflatable mattress, or borrow one from the "McManse".

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    9. Yes I'm sure LE has much more damning evidence than just his bed.

      Regardless, he should be sleeping on the floor, if need be, waiting for the return of his daughter. He should sleep outside, if need be. Idk if LE took his bed. Maybe they did, what with Ayla's blood being right next to it, that may be a possibility. That doesn't mean he has to stay at The Mansion though. Unless of course his REAL family doesn't want him there. - It could also be what LouLou said. HT wants to control him, in order to save derek, herself and her husband. That makes sense too. But he, himself, should want to be available for the possible return of his daughter. Plus you would think he would want to be close to her, her things, where he last saw her, memories of her. Oh, thats if he was innocent...

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    10. Thank you Anon & Kit, the thought popped into my head out of nowhere but I had to be fair and post it. I knew there had to be more than just the mattress being gone. You ladies pointed it out for me! Thanks again

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    11. You know, I looked at the photos of the house, below the girl's room window, and the glass appears intact, and with no plastic...can anyone point out where it is, cause it does not appear any of those small horizontal rectangular basement windows is missing glass...

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    12. Oh geez Emerald. I was just going by what Selena specifically said she saw with her own eyes!! I don't ubderstand why she'd lie about that. It makes the kidnapping LESS believable.

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  8. I love the shirt he is wearing today.
    Did Derek provide the custom printing ?
    I don't know why is is at Heidi's.
    If it was because of kids in the house, well they run a daycare and little Dom is there at daycare. Derek and Kylie must be there alot during the DAYlight hours also.
    I can see why he doesn't live with Courtney,she must be getting single Mum assistance.
    Justin the stud must get like lonely with Courtney being so busy and all. Justin doesn't spend much time vertical, I would think he is horizontal frequently.

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    1. If Justin is doing the horizontal at the T's house then he's probably 'hittin'Heidi? Ewwww! I bet that snaggle toothed cougar thinks she's hit the jackpot with Courtneys stud!....sorry, just threw up in my mouth a little

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    2. Darn it nannieb, what an image to put in my head this early in the morning! And where has Courtney been the past few days while the information concerning Justins son has been brought to light. I wonder if Courtney is going to be making her weekly visit to see her "stud" at the Manse on the hill?

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    3. nannieb, ewwwwwww!

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  9. I have always felt this whole thing is on Justin. That's why PD and ED got a different attorney. Both of them are in stupid mode trying to protect one of their own, but don't want to be too close. I could never picture Elisha harming Ayla. Didn't she have a restraining order against JL for some reason? She strikes me as someone who is working the system, but only to improve her situation and that's what the system is supposed to be used for. Hopefully, she will come to her senses and tell LE everything she knows and/or suspects. If she doesn't, she still stands to be in big trouble.

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    1. I agree Maine-iac.

      Maybe she HAS, at least dropped little hints to LE. She may not want to come right out and fully admit, that yes, Justin could do such a thing, but she could drop hints.

      Geez Elisha! Come on! Do you want to lose Gabby?? Speak up for Ayla! Even if you don't know for SURE, tell LE what you know and what you think.

      I've gone back and forth with Elisha. Originally I thought she wasn't fully involved. I've thought that she could be involved - from the act itself and/or the cover up. I think my original gut feeling, is probably more on track.

      Regardless, she should speak up. She is Ayla's aunt!

      Elisha, does Justin have a temper? What do you really think happened?

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    2. Regardless, she should speak up. She is Ayla's aunt!

      John P,
      this is why her voice cracks at "aunt" in the video...she knows she failed her miserably, horribly, and has guilt for it.
      The same reasons she has intense guilt over her role as "aunt" are the very same reasons she did not pass all of her poly...and passed is passed, all you have to do is say it, and if true, fly it proudly like a badge of honor, proof of your honesty...

      "I did fine" is purposely ambiguous, because passed, for a polygraph, does not equal getting 70% of the questions correct...it means getting all of the important questions right..anyone can answer their name and address truthfully...

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    3. oops above comment was to KIT :D

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  10. I revisited the Nancy Grace transcripts from early in the case. Remember that scent dogs focused on the shed and led LE to the Comfort Inn and the Champion nightclub. LE searched a trash bin there. I think Ayla was transported on foot for a while. The loud noise, whatever it was, I think came from the shed.

    I can see why Justin wouldn't be staying with Derek. His wife probably forbade it.

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    1. I think the shed is a key area in this whole case, I think Ayla was put in the shed until she could be disposed of. I think they had to wait for someone with a car that LE would not think to check to transport her in. There is a HUGE wooded area out behind Champions and Comfort Inn, I wonder how thoroughly that has been checked?

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    2. And who was it that frequented the Champion nightclub?? HMMM

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    3. With the warm weather, I hope there will be a lot more searching, with dogs.

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    4. J4A- I agree, I have wondered about the shed as well--wondering what LE found there--if there's something that led them to search the river so often--

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    5. Or even what was missing from the shed that was supposed to be there? Either way something led LE to the rivers edge and something led the dogs to the Champion.

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    6. From what I understand, when LE got to the shed, it was padlocked, though it is falling down, and had nothing of worth inside...and this was were the dogs, cadaver dogs, apparently went nuts....several bystanders watching the whole process saw it, and then LE crime taped around it and went to work...I have been theorizing from way back that this is where they stored her, barely alive, and/or the clean up materials with her blood, which, with dying cells, will trigger the same response from a cadaver dog,as they are tracking cadaverine, not the blood itsself...

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    7. He would not stay in Derek's house for the same reason he wouldn't stay at home- children present, might draw DHS attention.

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    8. I have to agree Emerald, even though I don't want to.

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  11. Nice looking couple the Tudela's.

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    1. Hi Heidi, nice of you to drop by! ;)

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    2. A couple right out of the 80's. Nice hair.

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    3. Heidi looks evil to me. Dark rings around the eyes.

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  12. Do you think this guy is gonna be pissed to see his face being used like that?

    http://www.facebook.com/Osgoods#!/Osgoods?sk=info

    I would be. Just sayin....

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    1. Imagine what his fiance must think!
      https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002382152326

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    2. I guess JSTL couldn't take the 10 seconds it took to actually find out who that guy really was, super sleuth that she is. I wonder how many hours it took her to find the wrong guy? LMAO!

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    3. The guy is from Sherman Oaks California. An Alternative musician. Wow, now he is connected to missing baby on the other side of the country courtesy of JSTL. I would post over there but it blocked me.

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    4. Suz, maybe he will be able to see one of Aylas billboards and tell us about it. If this wasn't so sad it would be ironic at the least!

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    5. Suz, I never go there (the other blog) without protection (www.proxy.org) :)

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    6. Thanks I will check in to that proxy. Org

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    7. It's just another indicator of how accurate the crap JSTL posts. Not even close to factual!

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    8. They all told me yesterday I was lying and that it was my boyfriend lol. Apparently I am not supposed to know who my boyfriend is lol

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    9. That is exactly why I depend on others to keep me up to speed on what is happening. I can't go there without saying something to those idiots!

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    10. someone should tell that poor guy in case he hasn't stumbled across JSTL If he and she are both in CA, maybe she knows him and has a vendetta against him for something

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  13. Maine does have laws against insurance fraud, and apparently insurance agents have the responsibility to screen their applicants for shadiness regarding insurance policies. I can think of several areas where JD's coverage on Ayla would be sketchy--like he only had her for a couple of days, wasn't the primary care giver, and neither he nor the insurance agent informed the mother of the policy.
    If Trista filed a complaint with the state insurance fraud agency, they would have to at least investigate which could possibly include looking through old records and past dealings of the agent/agency. Perhaps this is what the Tudelas are also protecting...maybe there are some other records they are trying to protect...JMO--still trying to figure out the Tudela angle...

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    1. Good catch, I like the way you are thinking! They sure are hiding something up there in the McMansion.

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    2. Heather, this information is a very valid point. The LIP Derek sold could cause Darrell to lose his licensing as well if the agency is responsible for its agents. Definately something to think about.

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    3. I agree Heather! Good point. I hadn't thought about them having OTHER shady business transactions...

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    4. also, if you are buying insurance on your kids, do you not have to disclose to the agent how many children you have? oops!

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    5. Trista:
      Go Statefarm, all the way baby!

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    6. I think everyone that has State Farm should go to their agents and tell them they are looking elsewhere for their insurance needs. Give the Tudella's name as the reason why..

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  14. Like a good neighbor...

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  15. If we believe this email to be true..in above blog..then i would have to ask why would Elisha even have to question Justins involvement in Ayla's "disappearence" if she were infact a part in the coverup? Im trying to think outside of the box here, as nothing in this case appears as it seems. So now i cant help but go back to Elisha's statements at the walk for Ayla, and rethink what she said, and look at it in another way than i originally thought...
    Elisha is asked if she took a poly, and how she did on it. She said she did "fine" When further pushed if she passed or failed she still says "fine" I thought it was a lawyered up noncommital answer. But maybe she took the safe way out by saying "fine"
    If she were to say she passed the poly..first of all everyone would say she is lying..but MAYBE more importantly she wont say she passed because then fingers would be directly pointed at Justin and Courtney..most likely all fingers pointing at Justin. So by saying she did "fine"..she remains "loyal" to Justin..only for fear of her own safety and the safety of Gabby.
    And her statement about the window being unlocked, and fingerprints on the table was just a very poor attempt at trying to cast more doubt on the case, to show Justin that she is still trying to remain "loyal" to him.
    I mean so many people stated that Elisha's statement sounded "scripted"..maybe that is just what it was..a very flat attempt to try to remain loyal to Justin..but not really for Justin..but for herself and Gabby.
    FYI..i am NOT a dip supporter..im a supporter of the truth and justice for Ayla..as that little sweet angel deserves every angle of this case to be looked at to bring her home to her mother and brother!!!

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    1. ITA Robin, your assessment could be right along the lines of what I was thinking, where Phoebe and Elisha are distancing themselves but remaining true by remaining silent. The "scripted", I called it rehersed, statement did not jeopardize the security of her or Gabby while showing Justin she is still backing him.

      I believe it in no way limits her responsibility or involvement but it does make sense.

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    2. John,
      Im trying to think differently than my original thoughts about her answering "fine" on her poly.. which was ..she failed! I truly dont believe it excuses her at all in the knowledge she has about what happened to Ayla or her involvement.. but it could help explain family loyalty..even with knowledge of possible harm being done to Ayla....
      Justin..where is Ayla????????????????

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    3. With that interview where she said she did "fine" on the poly, the way she keeps going even when the guy walks up and hugs her, that statement was rehersed. But you are 100% in my opinion in that she said enough to show Justin she is still behind the family without involving herself in another lie. Recall she also said "we did nothing wrong", also IMO she is again referring to just her and Phoebe which in her eyes may be true if Justin acted alone. All your points are so valid Robin.

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    4. I agree, John. I think when Elisha said "we" she was referring to her and Phoebe. I remember thinking early on in this case, that Elisha was probably least culpable. I can imagine that she didn't like having Justin there. Maybe she took Gabby and went in her room and stayed there that night. She probably heard things, the loud noise, maybe Ayla crying, but maybe she doesn't know what really exactly happened or where
      Ayla is. I hope she comes clean to LE with whatever it is she does know.

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  16. Missing tot's mother begs for information

    DiPietro didn't return a call from The Associated Press.

    http://www.pressherald.com/news/missing-tots-mother-begs-for-information_2012-05-18.html

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    Really Justin? Again? Did you even know it was the 5 month mark yesterday? Ayla has been "missing" for 5 months. Do you care? Maybe you want to forget, maybe you hope people are going to forget, move on, get bored, sick of waiting. It's not going to happen! There are many people who have come to care for your daughter. Those people all want justice for Ayla. Is the time right yet? I don't think it's you who gets to set the time anymore. We'll keep waiting for the truth for Ayla, answers and justice for Ayla. You keep waiting for that knock on your door.

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    1. ITA Kit,

      This is not going away, we will not forget, Trista will not let us forget, we will not let you forget! The time is now to end the misery and torture for all those that love and care for Ayla! Just answer the question Justin, Where is Ayla???

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    2. Amen Kit. We are not going anywhere. Keep an eye over your shoulder Justin and family, we will be RIGHT there. Watching, waiting and praying for justice for Ayla. We are not ever going to go away. Count on it.

      Love the shirts Tori, keep them coming.

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  17. I've long had a hard time accepting that Elisha was involved any further than turning a blind eye and buying into whatever stories Justin fed her. Phoebe on the other hand, being older and wiser, should know better.

    Curious though - how do you know Justin is living at the Tudela's? I know he did the interview with Ben McCenna there but I don't recall that article saying he was still living there, just that he stayed there when LE took possession of the house for those 2 weeks. Can you explain where that info comes from because it seems so hard to believe that their daycare clients would remain clients if he were.

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    1. And another question/general observation I've been thinking about. Early on, Phoebe said that she was worried that Justin and Lance would go around kicking down doors looking for Ayla because "that's the way they are" or something. Mom certainly didn't imply Justin was the quiet, private, reserved sort of guy we're (not) seeing these past 5 months. You'd think she's wondering why his behavior is so contrary to what she'd expect as normal for him.

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    2. By 5 months, even an innocent parent might feel like going to kick in some doors. Not Justin. He STILL can't be bothered to speak out for Ayla. He couldn't return a phone call, to comment on his baby girl, who has been "missing" for 5 months?!

      Instead of setting the record straight, instead of clearing his name with LE, instead of communicating with LE, he'd rather let LE PROVE something (remember his brief statement at the balloon vigil). An innocent parent clears their own name. They don't need to wait for LE to prove anything. They want LE to find their child, and will do anything to help.

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    3. I wonder if he succeeded in stopping his child support payments for Ayla? If so, wasn't that his goal? Watch out baby Momma's of Justin!!!!!

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    4. I wonder about the child support too. Ayla was supposed to be returned to Trista, so he should have been paying right along, unless or until a judge ordered otherwise. Even though Ayla is "kidnapped", he must be (have been) expecting her to be brought home. Idk how a judge would even handle that - after the "kidnapping"...?

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    5. We can see Trista chompin at the bits for ANY information from anyone, especially MSP. If justin is Truly innocent, as he claims, I am baffled that he is not doing the same. If someone violated me by coming into MY home and taking MY child you bet I would be out there on MY OWN CRUSADE! Justin is an idiot - thinking that this will all go away if he just ignores the media and police.

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  18. I must say I am loving Justins new wardrobe. Thanks for the giggles Tori.

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    1. How is this comment helpful? Ayla is missing, and you want to sit with Tori and demean and belittle people? That's sad.

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    2. Justin's BFF derek, clearly stated that Justin is only 1/2 decent. That coming from his BFF, most likely means that Justin's decency level is way below 1/2. He must have been trying to paint him in a good light. Usually when someone is defending their best friend, they exaggerate the good points at least a little. I wonder what his decency level REALLY is? How is knowing and wondering about Justin's decency/character not helpful? It is actually important to know. A truly decent person could not harm their child. A 1/2 decent person most likely could. A less than 1/2 decent person more than likely, definitely could. A decent person wouldn't lie/hide the fact that they have children. A decent person is PROUD of their children. They love them. They have a relationship with them. They care for them, take care of them, and make sure they are well taken care of.

      Where are Justin's children?

      Where is Ayla?

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    3. Most people have hearts, Justin can't possibly have one if he can't speak out for Ayla! Have a nice day anon.

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  19. Again, I think these blogs are petty, demeaning, hateful, and no any better than other blogs. Because you think he's guilty, that deserves public brutality? Law enforcement and the courts will do their job. This is no different than any other cyberbullying! Your fans are praising you and egging you on. Why do you think it's okay for you to be the judge and jury?

    Seriously, take a good look at yourself. What's your real motive? This is anger and hate spewing, and the photos are condescending and judgmental. I find it very disappointing.

    Can you read back at some of these posts, and honestly say they were written with dignity and respect, towards others and yourself?

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    1. Wait a minute anon. If you read back through the comments, we speak about LE finding evidence, we speak of Grand Juries convening, we speak of actions that are possibly against the law, we speak of statutes that are suppose to protect children and you think we are playing judge and jury? I don't get that. Do we discuss evidence, facts and statements while coming to and stating our opinion about those discussions, ABSOLUTELY! The only condescending and judgemental photos are those of a person that
      can not speak for his own child,
      that has tortured the mother of his child with his silence,
      that has snubbed his nose at LE,
      that has ignored time and time again the opportunity to get his daughters name in the media,
      that had his daughters blood on the floor beside his bed,
      that wont speak up to explain why that blood was cleaned-up without any medical treatment for his daughter!
      Can I read back and say my comments were done with dignity and respect, ABSOLUTELY for those that deserve my respect. Justin most definately does not deserve my respect if he CAN NOT respect his own daughter!

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    2. I don't think Ayla deserves or deserved the brutality that SHE endured!

      You don't think the people who LAST SAW Ayla should be discussed? They should be. They do deserve to be scrutinized.

      Where is Ayla's respect?

      Where is Ayla?

      You don't think the last people to have seen her should be showing her some emotion? Telling the truth? Cooperating with LE? Communicating with LE?

      This blog is for seeking justice for Ayla. That involves discussing those INVOLVED in her case, those who last saw her. Those who failed their poly's and lie about it. Those who have her blood in their basement. Those who purchased and sold LIP against her. Those who should be speaking out for her, but don't. Those who are hiding and hiding information.

      I'll be checking to see if you posted this comment where it really belongs. Over where the topic is never even about Ayla, and usually about people who are in no way involved in the case.

      BTW, it was Justin's BFF, who stated that Justin is only 1/2 decent...

      Where is Ayla?

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    3. anon 8:32

      You talk about respect, What about Ayla???????
      LE has stated that the people in the house know more than have said, that what occured was not a kidnapping and that foul play was involved?

      Where is the respect for Ayla?

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    4. Anon 8:32 AM "Again, I think these blogs are petty, demeaning, hateful, and no any better than other blogs"

      And yet, you keep coming back to read and comment. AMAZING! Not every blog is for everyone, find the one you agree with and participate there. It's obvious the majority of the readers here understand the pictures. They are twofold. One, to hopefully get Justin to see the error of his ways. Two, for a bit of humor. Because this case can use a bit of humor.

      If Justin has a problem, then Justin can man up and get in front of a microphone and tell us how HE feels. As long as he is keeping his mouth shut, we are going to continue to keep our mouths open.

      If this place isn't your cup o' tea, why do you keep coming back? Or are you just trying to tell others how to behave, because you feel everyone should be measured by YOUR yardstick?

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    5. ANGER and even hatred has plenty of merit when directed at a father who murdered his daughter.
      A MURDERER of a child desert es no sympathy or respect.

      Where was the sympathy for Ayla? In a shed? At the bottom of a river?

      I think it is more than humanitarian good will keeping Justin @the NEO-Vic WITH sweeping views... Momma bear is protecting her cub.
      I have a question to for Momma bear. WHY risk all you have for someone I have been told...you never even liked?

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    6. ITA y'all--what about what Ayla endured?! She was just a toddler--unable to defend herself or speak up for herself. I am so sick of people defending an abuser!

      I think Justin should have to endure what she had to endure. Make him go into a ball pit and get beat up by two of his peers. Have someone twist his thigh so bad he needs a hamstring tendon repair and can't walk straight for 3 weeks. Have someone break his elbow and not give his whiney a$$ any pain medication or treatment for 24hrs. Then cut an artery and have him bleed 1/4 of his blood volume or smash his head into the basement floor so he sustains a subdural and not provide treatment for him. No one at that house spoke up for that girl, and it's not right! And you can go look it up in your Bible anon--but murder is a sin--last time I checked. Oh I know, thou shall not judge--but it also says thou shall not stand by a murderer. I'm sure you know the quote.

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    7. There were pictures posted of an innocent man with no connection to this case, the majority of the comments over there were about how funny the whole thing was but there are no comments over there about how wrong that was.

      This isn't a pissing match, I could careless what is printed or reacted upon over there but the double standards are ridiculous. It is okay to post pictures of Trista and scrutinize her, laugh at her because she is smiling and not sobbing every second of every day but it is not okay to post pictures of Justin?

      If you don't like the blog, click the red "x" at the top right hand corner of your browser window, it will remedy the problem

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    8. Anon (10:58AM), said...

      "As long as he is keeping his mouth shut, we are going to continue to keep our mouths open."

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      Stated succinctly!
      If Justin wishes to silence his detractors, all he has to do is open HIS mouth..

      Quit hiding behind skirts, and speaking THROUGH OTHERS, Justin!!
      What have YOU done with AYLA??
      Be a man, for ONCE in your life: Step up and tell the TRUTH.

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  20. Becuase Your feel he's guilty???LE feels that he is quilty,they have come out and said No Kidnapping,If you think they are wrong that is your opinion,I feel it is very disappointing that he wont come foward and admit what happen to Ayla.So I dont feel bad that poor Justin has a tee shirt on.You want to talk about Brutality,where is AYlA,Thats they way it is some people believe LE and trust them,some people dont.I dont tell you what to think.Dont tell me I dont have a right to my opinion.

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  21. Anyone else realizing the change of tone with the media. Almost to anger? I go back and fourth between thinking this man had something to do with his daughter disappearing. I guess i want him to have been a loving father. I really hope all the silence means they are working on something that will find her. I know people find it hard to believe that someone would simply grab custody to stop child support payments but i know men like that. Thinking that it would be easier. Those are men that dont have a clue what it takes to raise a child. Being that he didnt have a job in the first place and had two children to be responsible for paying child support on i really think it was his motive. But maybe his mom also put the idea in his head and helped him carry it out. Some people dont have what it takes to he a parent. And kids can definitely be frustrating at times. I dont know what it takes for people to kill their kids but i know it happens because i read about it on the news all the time. I dont see any reason to believe he couldnt be that type. I do believe she was loved in that house and i think that eventually those that loved her will lead the police to her. I think that maybe his mom and sister want to believe him but are suspicious. And if they found out the truth i think they would turn him in. I hope that she is alive and well. Maybe kidnapped and sold to a loving couple who cant have kids. Its really hard to hope that but looking at her pictures i dont want to think anything else. I know they said they dont think there was a kidnapping and i think the cleaned up blood may have helped to determine this. But i hope. I am happy with the change in the medias tone. Maybe it will help put the pressure on.

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    1. Anonymous 9:21 AM, we (and Ayla) are counting on the people who LOVE her to tell the truth.

      But I wonder, did anyone in the DIP house really love Ayla at all?

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    2. Anon 9:21 I agree with you regarding Justin taking Ayla to stop his already behind child support payments. I just can't say enough how selfish of an act that was. Taking a baby away from her mother and family that she knows so well and is well adjusted while in their care is plain evil in my book.

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    3. I agree with that Mercedes. Only a parent that truly loves their child would be able to see that, IMO.

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  22. Whe LE uses words like ,Grave concerns,and clinging to hope,and have not said anything else in months about having hope,it sounds like there is enough blood in the house for a serious injury.They wouldnt say that from Not 4 tiny drops. I do believe that some kind of accident happened that night,or someone lost their temper.I do not believe it was planned.I have a hard time thinking someone could be that evil.But it does happen.LE knows so much more than we do and they havent asked the public in months to have hope or to keep looking,they say search your property.After the testing of the items I feel there will be some answers.

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  23. One factor that I had in his favor for innocence was that he chose to leave his Portland apartment and move home to live in the Waterville basement, all so that he could be a good father to Ayla. I found out recently that the lease was up on that Portland apartment, and all residents apparently vacated it. Thus, he was going to leave and come home anyway.

    He is probably never going to speak with the press or give any kind of interview for us to hear. The least I'd like is for one of them to provide a scenario of that day and night, one similar to the one that AH wrote initial on TTLOM. I would like to see if it passes my straight face test.

    Aside from the ltd, LE probably interviewed each of the three separately. Surely discrepancies would show up in the 3 difference stories, if in fact they were dishonest.

    I don't understand why the media centers in on Justin for comments. Why don't we ever hear about them asking CR for her account of the night. Women commit crimes too, ya know. I just came across another horror story on the web where an Oklahoma mother put a hot curling iron on her infant's genitals. The reason? You tell me. There is so much evil in this world it is heart wrenching. I am far from naive or gullible, but I don't want to believe such horror goes on.

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    1. Any mention of him going to back to his mom's basement to be a 'good' father only comes from his family/supporters. I'd like to hear those words come out of Justins mouth.

      He most likely moved back because Phoebe told him to. Phoebe was probably upset about the numerous child support obligations he was taking off,(hey she is used to her family USING the system, not paying IN to the system) and insisted he get Ayla. She probably saw the opportunity to snatch her and took. Of course, she needed Daddy Justin in order to do so. He's so used to doing what he's told and keeping his mouth shut, he did it. Wow, what a wonderful family. NOT

      Praying that the LE solve this case and there is justice (finally) for Ayla and her Mom.

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    2. Anon 10:35-In the early days of this case, Trista stated that she had an agreement with Justin that if he took care of Ayla, Justin had to move back home with his mother.

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    3. Anon 10:35, anon 11:00 and Chicago are both right. He moved back to mommys basement because the agreement between himself and Trista, and the lease ran out and he could not maintain it on his own. The claim of him going back to be a good father IMO would have had him moving his belongings in well before he grabbed Ayla!

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    4. Hi John-thanks for the clarification on the lease. I keep hearing about Justin "grabbing" Ayla, or "kidnapping" Ayla from her mother, and I honestly don't understand. Please read the following article: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/police-log-offers-insight-into-custody-questions_2011-12-30.html
      In the article, Lewiston police state that there was an agreement that was verified by Maine DHS.

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    5. I wouldn't believe much of what DHS says in this case, they also had an agreement for Justin to return Ayla to Trista when she completed rehab and that if he did not they would enforce it. That didn't happen and DHS did nothing. They also did not do a thing when the received a report of possible of abuse from Ayla's doctor, not even the initial assessment through CPS. They dropped the ball big time

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    6. I agree J4A, what I recall was the DHHS worker on the 17th, the day of the grab, was K Smalls who had illegally injected herself into the acquisition of Ayla on that day. The family meeting then held by DHHS was under the observation of K Smalls subordinate. The claim that they would enforce Aylas return after she completed rehab was ignored by ALL DHHS representatives. The only agreement between Trista and JD that I recall was the one to allow Ayla to stay with him until she got settled in in her own place was that Trista get regular visits, and even that agreement was broken.

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    7. BTW, the article cited says Ayla was turned over without incident

      Cornelio said Ayla was turned over to DiPietro without incident.

      We now know this was not the case either. She almost bit the officer and was kicking the entire time.

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    8. You wish to believe DHS was lying to police about the agreement? Fair enough, but are you positive that it was agreed that Justin would return Ayla on 22nd? Quote:
      "I am going to try and sue DHS, and I will go against them and I will fight them. They- it was an agreement, like, written, I told everybody, it was two doctors, two DHS workers, a supervisor and an attorney present at the family team meeting when we made the agreement. The only way Ayla could stay in that house with Justin was if everyone got background checks done, the house was evaluated and approved of like, DHS standards and Ayla was happy and content and safe there. And even the supervisor from the department stated that she did not go check on my daughter knowing it was our agreement."

      My question is why would there be an agreement to check on Ayla, do a home study, background checks, etc. when Ayla was supposed to be returned two days later? Does this make sense?

      As to the abuse report from Ayla's doctor, we don't know if the doctor actually made the report, only that it was part of the follow plan. Also, if the doctor DID report it, we don't know what he reported and if it was actionable.

      BTW-I'm not a Justin supporter, but the custody issue does not make sense.

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    9. @Anon (12:26PM):

      The situation that unfolded, allowing Justin to show up at Jessica Reynolds' place, in Trista's absence, in order to TAKE Ayla is FAR more complicated than "there was an agreement in place".

      Overview:

      Trista informed Justin she was pregnant with his baby. He told her to get an abortion.
      She decided to keep the pregnancy, and leave Justin out of it.

      Trista needed to apply for state-aid when Ayla was an infant, and was legally obligated to name the baby's father.

      The state then ordered Justin to court to establish paternity, and hold him accountable for supporting his child.

      Justin was court-ordered to pay child-support on behalf of Ayla when she was 7 months old.

      Justin "claims" not to have known she existed until the paternity test results.
      He fought having to pay child support arrears based on this. The order denied his request, held him accountable.

      Justin visits Ayla just FIVE times between the paternity test and the custody grab.
      Thats F I V E visits in 14 months!

      He is unemployed and reportedly extremely unhappy with the "unfair" court-order that he pay CS on Ayla---a child he never gave Trista Reynolds "permission" to bring into this world.

      Following an argument where LE is called, involving Trista and Jessica Reynolds, where Trista is found drunk, she is ordered into rehab by DHHS. They threaten Trista with them taking her children IF SHE REFUSES TO DO SO.

      She checks into rehab, and DHHS AGREES she can leave her two kids in the care of her sister Jessica and mother Becca, for the duration.

      The DiPietros decided to go and grab Ayla while Trista is gone.
      The unemployed parent with physical custody of the AYLA doesn't have to pay CS for her to the state, AND may qualify for additional welfare money/aid based upon custody status...

      Since there is no OFFICIAL custody agreement in place, no RFOs against Justin, and paternity is established...technically, no one can "stop him".

      HOWEVER, how did Justin find Ayla to start with??The DiPs didn't even KNOW WHERE Jessica Reynolds lived!!
      DHHS provided her address to Justin, SO THAT HE *COULD* go and take Ayla.
      That goes beyond "not stopping" him from taking her...
      IMHO, that qualifies as "facilitating"!
      DHHS also showed-up on scene WITH LE, at Jessica's apartment, in order to help broker the hand-over of Ayla TO Justin.

      The "agreement" you mention, actually happened days AFTER the grab, at a family meeting with DHHS between the Reynolds and Justin, while Trista was still in rehab.

      Personally, I think the fact that DHHS threatened to TAKE Trista's kids if she didn't "cooperate" with them, and agree to enter rehab, may have made her feel pressured to appear "cooperative" with them regarding Justin being allowed to have Ayla.

      And, Trista ONLY agreed to let him have Ayla for a few days, until she completed the program, and ONLY IF he stayed at his mother's in WV with her!

      He reneged on this DHHS agreement, by refusing to give Ayla back to Trista when agreed upon..
      So, WHERE was DHHS when this happened??
      Why no "emergency family meeting" to discuss WHY Justin was refusing to return Ayla??
      WHY no DHHS check upon Ayla at Phoebe's home in WV??
      ESPECIALLY AFTER she turns up with a broken arm???

      Please keep in mind, that a close friend of PD who is a DHHS caseworker, is rumored to have had a hand in coaching the DiPs on how to manipulate custody law/DHHS policy loop-holes, in order to "acquire" Ayla. This has NOT been confirmed one way or the other, but is an interesting detail, if true, IMHO!

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    10. ITA VTLady!! Not much to add to that...

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    11. Lol!
      It took me so long to write that up!
      When I was working on it there were NO responses yet to the original comment.

      The whole DHHS angle still boils my blood!
      IMO, this case will NEVER be truly resolved until the real circumstances regarding the custody grab are made known, and answered for---even AFTER those ultimately responsible for Ayla's "disappearance" are behind bars!!

      My prayers are that if just ONE good thing can come of this tragedy, it's that DHHS policies are updated, and/or overhauled, in such a way as to prevent this happening to any other innocent child. It's unacceptable!
      :'(

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    12. ITA! I really hope, whenever Trista is ready, that she moves forward, against dhhs. Even if just to have rules/policies changed and updated.

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    13. Poor Ayla and Trista. Maybe they can ensure changes are made in DHS and with Life Insurance Policies and protect other innocent lives.

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  24. Everything about the actions of Justin and his close associates are confusing to me.

    1) why still living with the T's?
    2) why not with Courtney?
    3) why not with mom and sister?
    4) where is Courntey lately? Are they even still a couple?
    5) why do Phoebe and Elisha have independent counsel? Did they realize very early on that hitching their proverbial wagon to Justin's would lead to disaster or legal conflict?
    6) Where the hell is Ayla?

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    1. TLCox, Could the answer to 1-4 be that MSP got a court order prohibiting contact between Justin and any of the other children in this case during the investigation. They just did this in the Celis case if I am not mistaken. If they had done it in the Powell case, those boys would still be with us today! I hope this is the answer!!!!

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    2. Good point, if such an order was issued either at the prompting of MSP or DHS they may not have informed the public about it. The public was informed in the Aliyah Lunsford case and the Celis case but I imagine that releasing such information is probably at the discretion of the particular agencies involved.

      thanks John. I had not considered that angle. that would explain the prolonged absence from the D home and the seeming "disappearance" of Courtney from the scene.

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    3. Unfortunately TLCox, the most important answer is still not explained by this possibility, Where is Ayla! My opinion is that the answer to this question is the reason DT contacted HT in the beginning to give the DiPietros a living space?

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    4. OT (kind of),

      John, I'm pretty sure, in the Isabel case, dhhs and the father came to a quick agreement that he would not have contact with his boys. Dhhs had recently been involved with the family, I believe they said as recently as December. At least dhhs stepped up in this case, but maybe not quick enough... :(

      I wish for the other kids safety, in relation to Justin, Elisha and courtney, maybe even derek, that dhhs would step up as well. Even if just until the parents of each child are cleared of any wrongdoing, in regards to Ayla.

      Does LE get involved in those matters, do they leave it up to dhhs, or do they work together? There must be other people who fear for those children.

      I see now what you were saying (as I was typing). Maybe there already is an order against only Justin, that the public is not aware of. That would at least be a good start.

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    5. Thanks Kit, I didn't know for sure if it would have been LE or DHHS or a combination that would have to go to a judge to request such an order be issued. The article posted the other day gave me the impression that the placement of the other children in the other case was a result of the courts issuing an order of this type. I don't recall exactly what it said or if I even read it right. Monday and Tuesday were very busy days for me and I may have misread the article when I was getting caught up. Hope this is making sense?

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  25. I love your posts J4A. Great questions. I want to think about them and post when I get home later. I admit to being shocked that Justin is still living with the Tudella's. That is just too weird for words.

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  26. Guess I'm missing something - Justin has another child?

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  27. Other questions:

    -Why would would the Tudela's risk their business and lively hood for JD?
    -It can't be good for the insuranse business or Heidi's daycare?
    -Or is there something or someone else they are protecting by protecting Justin, Perhaps their own son Derek has played a greater role than they want anyone to know?
    -Maybe Elisha question Justin not just because in her heart she believes he is capable of doing something to Ayla, maybe the circumstances surrounding the night she dissappeared were condusive for "foul play"?
    -Maybe Pheobe one retained a lawyer for Elisha because she was told by an attorney that it would be conflict of interest to represent them both? If both are in the same position of "not knowing what happened" what would that conflict be?
    -Why wouldn't Justin be staying with his "long term" and "committed" wonderful girlfriend Courtney? She clearly sticks by him no matter how much she is walked all over.
    -Maybe Courtney had an equal part played in the said "foul play" other wise why would such a "GREAT and wonderful" person with so much to offer and supposedly so much going for her SETTLE for Justin. Maybe she isn't so great?
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder?

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  28. Well, if Justin has another child and did not take life insurance out on him, that would speak volumes to LE, I would think.

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    1. Not necessarily. Justin has custody of Ayla, at least partial custody. If the other child exists, he may never have had custody of that child.

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    2. I have to respectfully disagree anon. Firstly, weather he had custody or not, the reason he HAD Ayla was because he claimed to want to be a "good father" to his child. The same would apply to his son weather he had him living with him or not.

      Secondly, we know the mother did not want Justin to have any part of her son, why is that?

      Thirdly and most importantly, why was it hidden that he has a son for so long while he let all his supports accuse Trista of being a loose flousy for having a second child with another man when he himself did exactly the same thing? It shows the character of the person to allow this to happen.

      And lastly, a LIP on his son would show that JD could have been truely concerned for Aylas future, but a lack of the LIP will show that Ayla was not a concern, but something very much different.

      Now on a personal note, to say Justin HAS custody is a misnomer in that the women he had watching Ayla for him spent more time with her than Justin ever did. He was consistantly out with friends and/or girlfriends while someone else was watching Ayla. I know they never asnwered the question who was watching Ayla, but we know the answer was not Justin! That, to me because I have a heart felt concern for my children and grandchildren, is a possession not a child to be loved and cherished.

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    3. We have to remember that Justin got Ayla's SSN from Trista under the pretense that Phoebe was going to use it to set up a college fund for Ayla, why not also set up a college fund for the son? How can you do for one and not the other REGARDLESS of how much or how often you see them. They are your blood, your child/grandchild you as a parent/grandparent ARE SUPPOSED to LOVE them all unconditionally and the SAME.

      Why was Ayla so important to them but not the son?

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    4. Justin had a relationship with Ayla, because Trista allowed it. IF there is another child, which we don't know for a fact, perhaps that mother would not allow a relationship due to breaking up with the father.

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    5. IF Justin wants/wanted a relationship with his son, it is actually not up to the mother. He can head on over to the court house any time he wants... Even though he doesn't like doing things that way.

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    6. If it's true (and I see NO REASON not think it isn't) what Trista has reported, regarding WHEN Justin weasled Ayla's SS# under the pre-tense of opening a "college savings account"...

      This is even MORE reason to view the LIP/and Ayla's "disappearance" as pre-meditated, though "botched", IMHO.

      If the info is accurate, and the SS# can be assumed need FOR that LIP purchase,
      then the policy COULD NOT have been just an ill-advised attempt to profit off of an already "unintentionally-dead" child.
      It shows fore-thought and planning, yes??
      :/

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    7. Kit, hadn't he been telling Trista he was going to file custody papers himself? He knows, or at least Phoebe or Heidi knows, how the system works. Trista filed because he was denying her attempts to see or talk to Ayla and she needed to beat him to the filing to keep the case in Cumberland County where it belonged.

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    8. I was talking about his son. If he's going to claim that the mother kept him from his son, that's no excuse. He can head on over to the court any time he wants.

      The rest of your comment is probably true.

      If one parent is keeping the other from seeing their child, they should go to court.

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  29. Can anyone respond to the question of how it is known that JD lives with the Tudelas?

    Besides statements on this blog, the only media mentions I've seen of him living there is that he stayed there the two weeks LE was combing the house.

    How is it possible that state licensing would let a day care continue to operate with a person being investigated for the crime of the disappearance of a child living there?

    If someone could fill in where this info comes from, I'd appreciate it.

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    1. He no longer lives there. He found a job and was able to pay rent again and so moved out.

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    2. Anonymous 11:26AM and you know this for a fact, because?

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    3. Anon 11:36, I think anon 11:26 is being sarcastic.

      Anon 11:21, I only speak for myself, but I use reasoning for my statement that he is still living there. #1 Every interview involving his presence was conducted from the rolling hills. #2 Heidi is controlling each word that is spoken by Justin, when she does allow him to speak. #3 There has been no mention by anyone on any site or FB page that I am aware of that has refuted the statements. #4 Derek continually speaks for JD on blogs and there makes no more sense as to where the information comes from than JD himself. So where is he seeing JD on a regular basis, at Dereks parents. I do not go on FB, I was never allowed as a member of TLLOM, and I do not read at the other blog but no-one has refuted Toris claim so why would I??? I put all I know together and reach my conclusion that he is still living in the Tudelas residence! Logical Reasoning works in most every case.

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    4. Logical reasoning works for me.

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    5. Thank you anon, I normally try to avoid that process if facts or evidence is available, but unfortunately, there seems to be a purpose for the logical reasoning in this situation.

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    6. John, Going through the links on A4A I find the one Ben McCanna interview published on 3/11 that was at the Tudelas'. In it, McCenna writes, "For the next two weeks, the two families lived together in Winslow while investigators combed through the Violette Avenue home." To me that implies the DiPietro family was only there for two weeks. I suppose Justin may have stayed longer. The opener for that interview is "Winslow" which is where the Tudela's live.

      3/30 story by the same writer, opens as being from Waterville. He talks to Justin, Phoebe and Elisha. I assume that is from the DiPietro Waterville home.

      2/4 BDN story about broken windows at DiPietro home says "Twenty-month-old Ayla Reynolds was reported missing from the home Dec. 17 by her father, Justin DiPietro, who lives there with his mother." implying he is living there.

      Interview published 1/3 house turned back over and another on 1/7 explaining broken arm were conducted with Justin at DiPietro home.

      There are more

      I cannot find any other interview besides the one I first mentioned as being conducted from the Tudela home. Since that is your number 1 reason for you assumption, maybe you can point them out.

      I think such declarations as what Tori has made here as fact should be able to be backed (by Tori of course, not you) a little more specifically, for the sake of the integrity of the entire blog.

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    7. No, it is true. Justin is now employed and no longer living with the Tudelas.

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    8. Heidi has also mentioned it many times in the secret TTLOM group, I have posted comments in previous posts regarding TTLOM. Heidi herself has said Justin is living with her and has also mentioned many times he sits there by the phone waiting for the kidnapper to call and that he no longer is eating. Heidi is mothering Justin. It was also said in the article or one after it about the broken windows that Justin was not there at the home.

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    9. Okay, I gave you my reasoning but if you prefer Tori explain her reasoning I guess I will back out. Have a good day!

      BTW the order I listed is not the order of importance for me. I just listed the resons. There is no priority to my reasoning, for as I stated, I looked at it all as a whole! I only form an opinion in that fashion, never by looking at each piece as an individual event.

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    10. Anon, so now JD is working and living on his own. Well now, I thought he was waiting for that phone call day and night, living the same torturous life that Trista has been living. But now you are saying he had time to go out and find a job and start working and find a place to live and get his own lawyer and everything else. Interesting, can you site a source for this or do you know this personally? Just wondering because on the 17th, the 5 month anniversary of Ayla going missing, the mother was out begging and pleading for the return of her daughter, for answers to where her daughter was. What was Justin doing Thursday, making a few bucks for his defense fund?

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    11. Thank you Tori, I appreciate you clarifying where that bit of info came from. I must have missed your prior posts quoting Heidi.

      (I did read in the article about the broken window that only Phoebe, Elisha and Gabby were home when it happened).

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    12. Sorry Tori, didn't know you were on line and responded almost the exact time I did. Thanks for explaining to anon, I didn't want to speak for you. I like it when people speak for themselves, something JD should learn to do more often!

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    13. How would the "kidnapper" know Justin is waiting by HT's phone?

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  30. I have been told heidi always mistrusted and disliked Justin and derek likes what justin provides so he kept him as a friend against mommy wishes.

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    1. Was this told to you by a member of the family, either Justins or Heidis?

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    2. Neither. I made it up, like most of the crap on here.

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    3. So I guess we passed your test then. Maybe I should just go delete your entry and then you will see we verify facts or state opinions. We do not spread rumors without something to back it up. The only made up crap is your comment!

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    4. Sorry, Anon (1:08PM)

      Granted, I will only put just "so much" weight into any "Anon" comment...BUT, the OTHER "Anon's" comment kinda rings true!!

      [Especially so, considering our resident TROLL seems so quick to attempt discrediting the info.]

      Just sayin'!

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    5. That is the only reason I didn't delete it VTLady. I want to give the chance to the original poster if the one from 1:08 is a troll

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    6. I heard the same thing, and that Derek has been getting chicks and drugs for him since high school...this is from someone who hung out with him...and Derek's own facebook posts to his buddy Aaron, and others, paints a very different picture of his personality, one no becoming of a father, husband, or an insurance agent...very unprofessional...his mom has no idea what he does when alone, and it is now surfacing that there is a possibly a witness, a girl, who was there at the house that night, partying with Derek and Justin...and who was never mentioned to LE, along with Derek...

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  31. free stud serviceMay 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Maybe hide me is hoping justin tells them where he hid the corpse so she can collect the 3o k reward. Why else would she put up with that filthy slug?? Unless they are SWINGERS.....

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    1. I don't know if Heidi would qualify for the reward if the family is involved in the cover-up? Just wondering, don't know for sure either way.

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  32. I think Elisha wants Justin out of the house so CPS doesn't get involved ant take Gabby during the ongoing investigation.

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    1. I really don't think the ants will take Gabby. She is getting big now and too heavy for the ants to carry.

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    2. I see the petty Anonymous spelling police is back from JSTL. Stupid stupid person you are Anon 1:17 pm that you are more concerned about making fun of someone's spelling than finding Ayla and returning her to her loving Mother. The Mother who keeps her name in the press 5 months later unlike her cowardly dad. You are a really irrelevant, stupid person Anon 1:17 pm. Hell holds a special place for you and the other sub humans like you.

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    3. Seriously, Suz. WTH?

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    4. Seriously Anon 2:00 pm FOCUS ON AYLA'S return or go to hell, everything about spelling and ant by accident is irrelevant and whoever brings that up instead of info pertinent to the case is stupid and irrelevant. What you can dish it out, especially on other blogs , but you can't take it? WTH you say? I say for you to GTH. It's gonna get worse for anyone who hurt, kidnapped or killed that baby. Believe me.

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    5. psst, Suz, there is no such place as hell.

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    6. Do you know that for a fact Anon?

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    7. Suz needs anger management counseling. In a big way. Clearly a very disturbed person.

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  33. Those who throw stones......

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    1. Hmmm...
      What's this, "Anon"??
      A thinly veiled threat against Tori, that if she doesn't quit digging up RELEVANT dirt on a RELEVANT SUSPECT in the "disappearance" of
      Ayla **REYNOLDS**,
      that YOU will make HER the subject of (yet ANOTHER) blogpost, in the vein of your previous "Glass-House Gifford-Nigro"???

      Talking shit about a GOOD PERSON isn't going to make her ANY LESS respected, or cause her writing to LOSE ANY of it's credibility.
      Sorry.
      Go home and play shadow-puppets with Heidi and Aunt Selena!!

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    2. Shadow-puppets... LOL

      The attacks on J4A are so old. No one cares about the nonsense they keep posting about. It has NOTHING to do with Ayla.

      On the other hand, Justin, Phoebe, Elisha, courtney, Selena, derek, AH, HT, Lance, among others DO have LOTS to do with Ayla.

      If they don't like it, don't like people scrutinizing them, they should not have disappeared Ayla, nor got involved, before, during, or after the fact. Also, if they really don't like it, they can speak up, using their own name. You know, speak up. Like Justin doesn't do for his baby girl.

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  34. The author begins with a good heart, she gets praise, and praise, and it feels good. Really good! She gets more praise and suddenly her head gets bigger! Realists start questioning her purpose and morals, and her head is so big, her compass loses direction. Her followers keep pushing, keep her motivated, it feels good, she has power, authority, respect....something she's never had. She stops thinking logically, instead thriving on attention, the drama, and the chaos. It becomes a war. There is NO focus now but winning! At all costs. Lashing out at opposers, becoming angry and unbalanced. Eventually, respect is being lost, fans are losing interest, the remaining fans are needy, and have lost respect for themselves. The hero is unnoticed. It gets lonely. Quiet. Too quiet.....

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    1. Is that the preface to your autobiography?

      Your hypocrisy is an insult to my intelligence.

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    2. please leave Selena out of this....:)

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    3. Anon 2:11,
      As your's is to mine.

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    4. Great post. Sounds like Tori to a "T".

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    5. Let me guess, A.H. and H.T.?

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  35. OT to this thread but how about some more forensic astrology posts. They're obviously not fact but I've found them to be interesting and in other cases have been very accurate when looked at after the fact. I'd be interested in ED's, CR's and DT's readings.

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