Monday, May 7, 2012

More Questions Courtesy of Elisha DiPietro




With Elisha's recent statements to the Morning Sentinel and to the crowd of Ayla supporters at the Eyes Open for Ayla Walk this weekend, I am left with more questions than answers which is usually the case when any of the DiPietros choose to grace us with their presence in the media.

From Ben McCanna's interview with Elisha Saturday:

"They did administer a polygraph," DiPietro said. "I took it. I did fine."
When DiPietro was asked to clarify whether she passed or failed the exam, DiPietro repeated her initial statement, adding that she's not concerned how her response will be received by the public.
"I mean, I did fine. It's what it is. People are going to take things how they take them, and they're going to call us liars, if they want to call us liars, but I know the truth, and we know the truth, and we know we didn't do anything wrong. We want Ayla home. We love Ayla."

There were questions early on as to whether or not Elisha was polygraphed, even her lawyer claimed he did not know whether or not Elisha or Phoebe were administered polygraph tests. Stephen McCausland did state early on that those people on the house did take lie detector tests and know the results. Elisha did not come out and state that she passed the test. Instead her response to me sounds like she is reiterating what the person administering the test would tell someone who is nervous or uncomfortable.




FOR EXAMPLE-

Elisha-"Did I do okay? I was really nervous, I have never had to do one of these before"
Person administering test- "Don't worry, you did fine" "However, the test did indicate deception in a few areas..." 
OR
Person administering test-"We are going to have to have you answer the questions again, we weren't able to get a defined enough baseline"
Elisha-"Did I do something wrong? Is everything okay?"
Person administering test-"Oh, you did fine. This happens from time to time, nothing to worry about, let me ask some of the same questions again but being a little more specific this time."


Elisha could very well tell the media that she was told she did fine and because it was something she was told, whether in the correct context or not, she would not be lying. Elisha also knows that LE cannot disclose any information regarding the results of her test to the media so it is safe to assume that unless she out and out lies, LE is not going to correct her statement. The fact that she would not clarify either way as to whether or not she passed or failed the test shows me that she probably did not pass the test or answered some questions honestly and other questions showed deception. I think her answer was purposely misleading.

Elisha could have very well passed the test although I find it questionable that she did not come out and answer the question about whether or not she took a polygraph early on, especially if she had supposedly passed the test. That admission could have changed the way the public viewed her family and their involvement in Ayla's disappearance. 

She added there are some aspects of the forensic investigation that her family feels were incomplete.
"There were things they didn't fingerprint in (Ayla's) room that we felt they should have," she said.
DiPietro said a table that was located directly beneath the bedroom window wasn't fingerprinted, along with other pieces of furniture.
She said the family learned that the window to Ayla's room was unlocked the night of her disappearance.
"We did not know it was unlocked ... which is something we thought was weird because (the window) was always locked," she said.
She said her family also questions the thoroughness of DNA testing at the home. She said investigators should have found DNA belonging to friends who had visited the home in the days before Ayla disappeared, but they didn't.


Elisha also used this opportunity to bash LE in her interview as Justin, Phoebe, and Heidi have done in past interviews and Selena has done in comments on blogs. I wonder why they have not filed a formal complaint against the Waterville PD, the Maine State Police, and the F.B.I. for their ineptness on this case? If it were my child missing I would expect that LE do their jobs correctly and if I thought for one second they were not, I would demand that a more competent team of investigators work the case. If the DiPietros feel LE has handled this case so badly, badly enough to make such claims to the media every chance they get, why have they not done anything about it? Why is it that is it always someone else's fault for the trouble that befalls them?


LE is making them out to look like monsters, LE is lying about Justin not telling them the truth, LE is lying about Justin communicating with them, LE told them not to talk to the media, Trista was lying when she said Justin was not in contact with her, Justin Linnell was trying to make my family look bad, that is why I was forced to hit him, to defend my family, LE didn't tell Justin the results of the polygraph test, LE didn't fingerprint a table, LE made a mistake when they said it was 3 adults and 2 children in the house the night Ayla went missing when it was really 3 adults and 3 children...


As far as the table in Ayla's room not being tested, for starters how does Elisha know it wasn't tested? It was reported early on that Ayla was put to bed that night in a room she did not normally sleep in so assuming that she normally did sleep in her bedroom where the table was why would LE even be concerned with the furniture in her room if that wasn't the room she was abducted from? Especially since it has been reported that LE took the window that was left unlocked or unlocked by the kidnapper (whatever), isn't it safe to assume that if there were any fingerprints left that they would not only be on the table but also all over the window?

On the night that the girl was last seen, DiPietro, 24, and his girlfriend, along with her small child, were allegedly in the basement of the Waterville home. DiPietro's sister was also in the house, along with her young child, in a bedroom on the main level, while Ayla was reportedly in an adjacent bedroom by herself. DiPietro's mother was not at home that night.
"The adults inside that home say someone came into the house -- a small home -- went into a bedroom Ayla normally doesn't sleep in, took her, vanished in the night -- and not one of them heard or saw anything," McCausland said.

Furthermore, isn't it odd that only one window was unlocked? One that was usually locked, the one in Ayla's room nonetheless and that person crawled into the bedroom knew Ayla would be in Phoebe's room instead so went straight there and got her and proceeded to crawl back out the window this time with a toddler in his/her arms without alerting anyone in the house or waking up Ayla who had a broken arm at the time and causing her to cry out in alarm or pain? OR Did the kidnapper come in through the door, find Ayla in Phoebe's room then proceed to unlock the window and crawl out it with Ayla in their arms and not knock over the table or scrape it across the floor on the way out of the window? No wonder McCausland has said their story does not pass the straight face test.

I am also sure that LE did pick up plenty of DNA from people who were in the house prior to Ayla's disappearance, I am also sure that LE asked for the names of people who frequented the house and if they did not do that, that should have been a big RED FLAG to the DiPietros that LE possibly was not handling the case well and that they should file a complaint.  I have also heard from friends of Lance and Justin that did frequent the house that they were interviewed by the F.B.I. and that was probably because their DNA was found in the home. LE was probably able to match up a lot of the fingerprints found in the house through CODIS, since many of Lance and Justin's friends have criminal records, even Elisha's old boyfriend and her child's father would have his fingerprints on file. I am sure LE did follow up on all of these things and again if you are so sure, Elisha, that they did not why no formal complaint on the handling of this case? This case is a matter of life and death for Ayla if she really was abducted as you claim and you all know you didn't do anything wrong although that is subjective because it is unclear as to what is considered doing wrong to your family.

Adam Doyon from http://whereisayla.blogspot.com/ attended the walk for Ayla this past Saturday and recorded it. He even got Elisha on video giving a little statement in front of her home after she invited them all to it to see the teddy bears that many of them have left for Ayla over the last few months. I found Elisha's statement to be very scripted and unmoving. It seemed rehearsed, maybe she was mulling what to say over in her head while on the 4 mile walk?


Thanks Adam for making this video you did a WONDERFUL job and I constantly am amazed at how gracious and caring you are. 

Elisha is standing by her story that LE has not found Ayla because someone took her and that she was abducted. If Ayla were still alive, it seems unlikely to me that someone would not have spotted her by now. It has been 5 months. If someone took Ayla and is keeping her somewhere, wouldn't someone close to the person who has her notice that they have a new toddler living with them? Wouldn't it be reasonable that the kidnapper would have to leave the house at some point in the past 5 months to work or to shop? If this person brought Ayla out with them that is more exposure and the chance that someone would recognize her. If they left her at home, wouldn't they have to have someone come in to care for her? Wouldn't that be one more person that might tell a friend or family member who might call LE? In 5 months isn't it reasonable to think that someone might come to the house unexpectedly to visit or the mailman might see Ayla or a meter reader? A repairman? Anyone? Wouldn't it be more likely to think that if Ayla were alive that she would have at least been spotted by someone and that sighting reported to LE? 


I would love to think that it is possible and that Ayla is alive somewhere but as the days turn into weeks and the weeks into months my outlook becomes more bleak not only in bringing Ayla home alive but also in getting Justice for her. Mother's Day is approaching and I hope that while Elisha, Courtney, Phoebe and even Heidi are being doted on by their children they stop and think for a minute about how Trista is feeling this Sunday. How she wants nothing more than to feel Ayla's arms around her neck or hear her call her mommy. How they are all responsible for continuing to prolong this ordeal and I hope the guilt eats them up inside. 



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206 comments:

  1. At this point she would have been better off saying she didn't pass (if she didn't). There are a lot of innocent people who don't pass a LID test.

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    1. ITA!! If she would have just told the truth instead of being vague and lying, people would have respected her a little tiny bit more.

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    2. MAH and Kit,
      IIRC when Shasta Groene's father failed some/a question(s) on his polygraph, he did tell the public. I thought the press and public was respectful about it because of the way he handled it.

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      Besides all the points everyone is making, don't the Dips maybe have to worry about the comparison of ED to Justin and/or Courtney's LDTs? Maybe ED did better over all or vice versa. I don't know, just wondering about this. So they uniformly are not really telling. Of course it could be because they all are just covering for their own arses. Just thinking out loud.

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    3. Get a ConscienceMay 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM

      This blog is a perfect example of why family members of kidnap victims are often reluctant to speak to the media. The suffering family members are vilified by people like Tori Gifford for NOT speaking out to the media. Then, when they do speak out heartless, unethical people like Tori Gifford will twist, spin and misinterpret their words into incriminating statements or actions. It is a lose, lose situation, and highly disruptive and distracting to the suffering family's efforts to find their child.

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    4. The words being spoken by Ayla's paternal family are heartless. There is nothing to twist and spin. Their words and actions (or lack thereof) have been interpreted, not MISinterpreted.

      Family members of TRUE kidnap victims, would not be reluctant to speak out, no matter what.

      Parents who claim their child has been kidnapped, yet really have not been, need to Get a Conscience. Along with family and friend who defend them blindly, or with their eyes wide open, as it may appear.

      JMO

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    5. Get a ConscienceMay 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM

      Based on what I have heard and read, the paternal family believes that Ayla was taken by someone connected with the maternal family. What is the purpose of the paternal family going to the media to ask a boogeyman unknown kidnapper to return their child? All they need to do is ask Trista and her co-conspirators to return Ayla, which they have done to no avail.

      Based on what I have heard, LE is aware of the paternal family's views that Ayla was taken in connection with the custody dispute. I can only hope and pray that sooner rather than later LE will ditch the tunnel vision and engage in a more broad ranging investigation of people other than the ones who were in the home that night.

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    6. I thought Justin Linnel did the kidnapping? He had a key from before the break up with Elisha right? At least try to look at the whole picture. If there was a kidnapping as you think, why blame Justin, then Jessica, then Trista, then Jessica again. It is getting old. Why did they not tell LE this info up front? Why did they not tell LE all the visitors up front? Why did they withhold any information up front? Why did they delay taking the polys up front? Instead they delayed LE by delaying any comments! Get a Conscience, you need to ask the paternal family to Get A Conscience and tell everyone where Ayla is!!!

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    7. Actually, Charl.. errr.. I mean "Get A Conscience":
      No.
      The DiPs have NEVER addressed the maternal family, DIRECTLY or PUBLICLY, asking them to "return Ayla".

      And, NO... thinly veiled insinuations made, while stating you will NOT accuse "anyone" until LE has "proof", does NOT count...
      As your favorite Guitar Teacher says:
      If they cannot bring themselves to SAY IT, we cannot SAY IT FOR THEM!

      Have a nice day...
      :D

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    8. Get a ConscienceMay 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM

      John P, you seem to be confusing the family's private confidential conversations with LE with what some anonymous, possibly crack pot and most certainly unconnected, people have posted on various Internet sites. You should be able to grasp that there is a difference.

      You say: "Why did they not tell LE this info up front?" Let me ask you this--how on earth could you possibly believe that YOU *know* what they told LE behind closed doors? Your grip on reality does not seem all that strong, IMHO.

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    9. Get a Conscience, if you consider Selena, HT and maybe AH, the "paternal family". If Justin, Phoebe, Elisha or courtney has stated that they think Trista, Super Jessica, or one of their "co-conspirators", have kidnapped Ayla, could you please point me in the direction where I would be able to see/read/hear this?

      Provide a link please.

      Thank you.

      I see where Justin addressed someone who "is not her parent". I see where Phoebe and Elisha think "someone took her".

      Hmmmm... They must think Ayla is being well taken care of, at least. Is that why they have SUCH a lack of concern and emotion?

      If THEY (Ayla's REAL paternal FAMILY) REALLY thought Trista kidnapped Ayla, they would and SHOULD be shouting it from the rooftopS, to any and everyone who will listen. Every tv station, newspaper, LE.

      I have yet to hear THEM voice such concern. I HAVE seen their defenders voice that ridiculous concern. Same with pretty much everything about Ayla's case. Those in the home, haven't said too much about anything. Yes, their defenders have.

      I'd like to see what they have said, so I can make a fair decision, in my mind. So please leave some links that I can read.

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    10. I must have been typing, while you were posting, VTLady! :)

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    11. Lol, Kit!!
      We think alike!
      :D

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    12. Get A Conscience,

      I would be interested in knowing just what exactly are the suffering paternal family's efforts for finding Ayla? Elisha didn't even walk the whole Eyes Open Walk for Ayla. They aren't working with Lost N Missing or LRC, I have yet to see one of them around town passing out posters or buttons. They don't address the kidnapper, ANY kidnapper. What do they do?

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    13. @Get a Conscience

      First..with regards to your comment about this blog being an example of why families of missing children are reluctant to speak to the media - Most parents I know are willing to walk through hell and back to protect their kids, without giving it a second thought, and if their kids were ever in danger I know they'd lay down their own lives in a second to save them. I don't doubt there's a lot of folks who'd be willing to face the fire for any child in a situation such as Ayla's, or who needed some kind of help, not just their own.

      Second..as to your questioning the purpose of the paternal family going to the media to address an unknown kidnapper - when they suspect the maternal family is responsible. I've seen people who defend the Justin, his family and CR - constantly telling others how close-minded they are, how they need to consider other possibilities.. like Trista and her family being responsible for Ayla's disappearance. So wouldn't the same go for Ayla's paternal side too? Since they can't say as fact it was Trista or her family shouldn't they consider the possibility it could be someone else. Even if they felt the chances were very slim it wasn't the maternal family, why would they not try to do everything they can to bring Ayla home..including making a plea to a boogeyman or unknown kidnapper?

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    14. I'd like to add, that any INNOCENT family of a kidnapped child would probably be pleased with THIS blog, just as it appears the INNOCENT parent and family of Ayla are. J4A (and all the contributors) put great effort in seeking JUSTICE and TRUTH for AYLA.

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    15. Anon 2:18- I was just typing a reply, but the first part of yours said what mine said. I'd like to add tho that you do not see Trista hiding from the press, although she has made some poor choices in her past. Same with Elizabeth Smart's father. When LE thought it was him or his son that hurt Elizabeth, it only motivated him to get out there more and call LE more- to get LE to stop looking at him and actually looking for the kidnappers.

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    16. I Have a ConscienceMay 7, 2012 at 7:23 PM

      Anyone else ever notice how it's only the guilty parties and their supporters that accuse LE of having "tunnel vision"? Sooo Stupid!!

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    17. Get a Conscience, You say, and I quote'

      "You say: "Why did they not tell LE this info up front?" Let me ask you this--how on earth could you possibly believe that YOU *know* what they told LE behind closed doors?"

      Because what they said, they said to the public. The first, and only plea to a kidnapper was to a person he called "not her parent". Justins speakers (Obviously Justin is allergic to the media himself so he never pled with the kidnapper, instead he asked LE to give them immunity, really??) then accused Justin Linnel. Selena went so far as to say he still had a key, so even if the door was locked he could easily have done it. With statements like these, I can easily make a logical assumption that they did not tell LE up front what really happened. So why would you claim MY grip on reality is gone when everything I stated was based on the reality of the DiPs words and actions???? Where is your grip on the whole picture????

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    18. First, Tori posts how she feels with alot of info and thought. Everyone else here posts what they think and feel, so to separate one person as being solely responsible for this blog is just an attach with no basis.
      Second, and I am sick of saying it frankly, that what the hell do the Dips care WHAT the public thinks if they are truly concerned and love Ayla.
      If they would be upfront, honest, and show real concern, then the public would have a differant opinion of them.
      If the public simple adored the Dips why the hell would THAT even matter if their sole concern was Ayla.
      Every time they speak it is all about them. The public is disruptive and distrating to the family?? Give me a frigging break !!
      WHAT ABOUT AYLA ?????????????????
      "" I am so afraid for Ayla and it truly breaks my heart wondering if she is scared, hungry, cold, mistreated, and God please let her be okay. """
      Do you hear any of them saying ANYTHING like this?
      It makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. Who's finger prints were on the window and lock??

    Was there always a table under the window in the toddler girls room? Or placed there recently? Like, between coming up with a kidnapping story and calling 911?

    Was there any view of the window/table in the pictures released by Selena?

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    1. Excellent question Kit! The pictures of the room should tell alot about the tables locations. I am also wondering about her comments about "friends" visiting. How many of these friends were in Aylas room and actually saw her that week? When was the last time the room was cleaned and dusted? Just way too many questions!!

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    2. Kit, yes, was there a clear finger print. And was it a family member(s) or was it conveniently all smeared.

      Yes, John when was the room last cleaned? And I do hope there were people there that the police have questioned and maybe told something helpful to also narrow down where and when about Ayla. And maybe even about the Dips. Well hopefully someone more credible than DT.

      A little O/T. What about the floor in the basement. Do we know if the floor was carpeted or had rugs. I would love to know if they had any new items in the basement including rugs or carpets.

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    3. What kind of "table" is she even talking about? A changing table would make sense to me. Other than that, what kind of table would be in a baby/toddler room? A cute little "tea set" table? I didn't see anything like that in the pictures...

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    4. I never had tables under a window, too dangerous because children love to climb, bad idea !!

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    5. ITA Chicky! I was going to ask WHY there was a table under the toddlers window, but I thought I was being overly nit picky. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking it.

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    6. That was my first thought, that it was very dangerous.

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  3. "I mean, I did fine. It's what it is...."

    I might be taking this the wrong way, but it comes off to me, like she has a major attitude. It is very hard to discern that, just from reading and not hearing, but I really get that feeling, although I could be totally wrong.

    How did you do on the polygraph, Elisha?

    I did fine...

    Did you pass it, what do you mean, fine?

    I MEAN, I did FINE!

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  4. I'd like to know if Elisha saw Ayla that evening,did JD hid Ayla until he could climb out the window with her? So the neighbor and Elisha wouldnt see him leaving with Ayla? If there had been A kidnapper they could have just gone through the door they came in,How many kidnappers take the time to close the window after? Why did JD need that window be unlocked?

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    1. I wish we could make a list of questions for ED.

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    2. Anon537: just to cooberate with his hinky kidnapping story.

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    3. My first question,

      Did the window have either a storm window or screen on it that night? If either were present when the window was taken out, why would a kidnapper take the time not only to close the window, but also put the screen or storm window back on?

      Answer: No-one actually used the window to enter or leave the room!

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    4. I also thought that LE stated early on that they tested the windows and it was proven to be impossible for someone to open the window from the outside? I looked last night for the article that referenced it but couldn't find it. Does anyone else remember this?

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    5. Yes, I absolutely remember that.

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    6. It's not a direct quote:

      A window taken from the Violette Avenue bedroom where Justin DiPietro claimed his daughter was sleeping did not appear to be tampered with and could not be opened from the outside, law enforcement sources said.


      http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/30334378/detail.html

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    7. I remember seeing an article at one point when an investigator was trying to climb in a window and it was either too high off the ground or it was too small... I cannot remember exactly but I think it was on the news.. I wish I could remember. I'm also not sure if it was the window to the bedroom or just a random window.

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    8. Even though thats not a direct quote, I believe it to be true. That is the article that stated they all took poly's (that was a quote).

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  5. I am just curious.... how would Elisha know if the table was finger printed or not? How would she know about DNA collected in the home? If I recall correctly, weren't they made to leave the house for a period of time?
    Elishia... Your family is NOT cooperating with LE. If you all were, perhaps you would know a bit more about the investigation and what has and has not been done to locate your 'kidnapped' neice.
    Instead, you blast LE for doing their job. I'm with J4A... if you think they have botched the investigation, file a complaint ASAP! Afterall, you have an atty. Surely, he knows how to file a complaint. Nevermind, I know why you haven't.... because you are absolutely full of shit and you know exactly what happened to Ayla and where she is. You also know you FAILED your LD test... otherwise, you would have been oh so clear and articulate... remember? You are smart one in the family! LIAR!

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    1. You can tell if an area has been tested for prints because a special chemical is applied to the area to make the prints visible. The process leaves quite a mess behind. When the family returned home they had to clean up the chemical residue left all over the house from the fingerprint dusting, so it would be readily apparent which areas had been tested for fingerprints and which areas had not been.

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    2. Anon, technology continues to improve each day. There is a thing called X-ray Flouresence which does not use powder, instead looks for the oils of the person to detect figer prints.

      The table, if below the window, could easily have been removed and put back when the window itself was being removed and replaced. With that, I am confident the window did not have finger print dust either. Does she think the window wasn't printed or was it maybe cleaned when replaced under the window that had also been cleaned after processing?

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    3. Prints can be made visable by dusting, chemical development or ALS (alternate light source) In ALS ~they are photographed OR lifted by applying lift tape. No residues left behind.


      Was there snow on the ground? If so then it would easily be deternined wheather someone entered or exitied by a window.

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    4. ANNON, yes, it was nice for heidi T to go to the Dips house to clean up the mess and see the 4 pen point drops of blood. Wonder if she had ever gone there before to help clean. Weird? Morbid?

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    5. Chicky, maybe if there was no snow, the soil may have been wet enough to leave prints in the mud?

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    6. Just as an FYI, there was no snow on the ground but there should have been frost. John has a nice point about the mud, but even if the ground was frozen and not wet, I'm sure the ground would show some sort of imprint or broken grass and LE would be looking for all if this and more. On top of this, they stated that the window (even if unlocked) cannot be opened from the outside. So, I am assuming that is why (if they didn't) they would not take prints off the table.

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    7. Thanks PB, I wonder if there is any way to verify if there were no prints when McCausland said there was nothing to support a kidnapping?

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    8. Right, someone walking out htere would leave some sort of depresssion even is the ground was frozen.

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    9. The CNN reporter said that there was powder or a chemical over the house from the fingerprint search which the family was still cleaning up when she was there. So whatever LE used made a mess and the family could tell by the undisturbed areas which areas probably had not been tested for fingerprints.

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    10. Well then, maybe everyone who thinks LE is so incompetent, should give them a call. Call the media too. Everyone should know just how incompetent they are! Make sure they find out where Super Jessica is too (as if they don't know).

      Why didn't LE fingerprint that table?! Where is Super Jessica?!

      Geez, if LE messed up and continues to, so horribly, everyone should be made aware of such!

      Where is Justin? HIS daughter is missing, correct? He doesn't seem to care about these things, or anything really, Ayla included. Can you name ONE thing special about Ayla, Justin? Besides that she's your daughter. I don't know how that is something special about HER anyway.

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    11. loulou,

      To say that a table under the window (that was removed for detailed testing) was not tested is simply more deflection. Anyone that had access through the door would not risk the suspicion and hassle of climbing out a window. Someone walking out a door at night does not draw undue attention, climbing out a window at night is going to generate a 911 call. It’s all hyperbole anyway as LE has stated there was not an abduction.

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    12. Differant technics used for finger prints depending on the surface they are dealing with. ALS is often used where a fingerprint is fairly obvious and that technic leaves no residue behind, those can be lifted by applying lift tape and they can be photographed.
      You can be sure that LE DID CHECK THE WINDOW in the room where Ayla supposedly slept and you can be sure that LE DID FINERPRINT the table by that window in the room where Ayla supposedly slept.
      LE and FBI are not stupid.

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  6. @J4A:
    I love the B&W image you created of Ayla...
    It brings to mind the book "Flowers In The Attic".

    The DiP claims that LE "didn't test" the table beneath the window, in the girls' room for fingerprints, and "didn't find" DNA in their home from recent visitors, is a LOT like their claims that LE "hasn't investigated" Trista or Jessica Reynolds.
    How would they even KNOW??
    Do they actually BELIEVE---or expect the public to believe---that LE is giving their "unofficial prime suspects" a play by play account of the progress of their investigation???
    :/

    [Oh, and BTW: Just because Elisha didn't see a ton of fingerprint powder on the table in the girls' room, does NOT MEAN the table "wasn't dusted for prints".
    Maybe it was dusted early on, and then the table was MOVED a couple of times, and remaining powder rubbed OFF...Maybe the powder didnt stick very well to the surface of the table in areas w/o prints, so when prints were LIFTED, not much other powder remained...SHE doesn't KNOW!]

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    1. TY for explaining. :)

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    2. ITA I don't think LE would give them "a list" of what they fingerprinted.

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    3. Well, you know... Her and courtney are students. They must be smarter than LE, right? ;)

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    4. Thanks VT, I can't take credit for the picture, another Ayla supporter made it. She did a great job and the picture is very fitting in this case.

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  7. Does anyone here know what is customary for LE to tell a person after completing a poly? Do you think they say, "you passed" or "you failed". I don't think they do. Also, depending on what questions were asked, it is possible for a person to fail the question but that question might not have any bearing on the case. Here is a very crazy example, and they probably wouldn't ask a question like this. "Was Ayla an inconvenience to you?" "Did you love Ayla?" Would LE ask those types of questions to get a feel for if the person could be suspect?

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    1. Yeah, Chicago, I was thinking the same thing!

      A test subject is evaluated for biometric indicators associated with "deception" on a question by question basis, correct??

      So to say you have "PASSED" your polygraph, generally means that, according to the polygraph examiner/interpreter, you didn't show signs of deception on ANY of the *pertinent* questions.

      Whereas a "FAILED" polygraph could mean you showed signs of deception on "just one" question OR on EVERY SINGLE question...

      It's not like the "exam" is graded on Pass/Fail, where you have to get X number of questions "right" in order to recieve a "pass".

      Showing signs of deception on just one or two VERY PERTINENT questions (such as "do you know who took Ayla?" or "Do you know where Ayla is NOW?") could EASILY count as a "FAILED" polygraph, even if there were NO signs of deception on the other 50 questions they asked!!

      So... what does it mean to ELISHA, when she says: "I did fine"??

      That she was able to complete the entire test, "unlike Trista"? We KNOW that was a sore point of contention for camp DiP!

      Does she mean that she got more questions "right" than she did "wrong"?? This would be irrelevant to having "passed" versus "failed"...

      Does she mean she "smoked" it???

      Her answer to the reporter's question was bullshit, and she KNOWS IT!
      JMO/MOO

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    2. Chicago, it is very common for LE to tell someone that they failed a polygraph when they did not, just to watch the reaction. LE has also been known to tell someone that blood or other compelling evidence was found that implicates that person, when it is not true, just to watch the reaction.

      In the case of little Jessica Lunsford who went missing, for example, LE originally suspected her father, and also the grandfather. LE falsely told the father that Jessica's blood had been found all over her grandfather's clothes, just to get his reaction. (It later turned out a neighbor had kidnapped her and killed her.)

      So it is very common for LE to tell persons of interest that they have found certain evidence or failed a polygraph, just to see whether they react like a guilty person or an innocent person. None of this is really any of our business. These are techniques that LE needs to use to piece together very difficult puzzles. Finding the truth is all that matters.

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    3. LE may purposely misinform a SUSPECT about the "results" of a polygraph, or about evidence found, etc., while interrogating him/her in order to gauge their reaction...
      NOT the public.

      Can you name *ONE CASE* where LE released (or has purposely ALLOWED someone else to "leak") falsified "evidence of guilt" against a suspect PUBLICLY, and allowed those lies to stand uncorrected??

      [Take your time... I'm not gonna hold my breath!]
      :/

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    4. It's the full moon VTLady. It's still in effect. It is usually in effect a few days before and after. ;)

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    5. It IS our busines because the public may help to find Ayla.

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    6. Shasta Groene, Jonbenet Ramsey, Breann Rodriguez.Thats three.
      Cops lie & ruin lives to close cases all the time.As long as someone gets arrested it doesn't matter to them if its the guilty party!

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    7. Chicago, It is my impression that the administers of the test will not tell the subject anything. The administrators report to the LE agency what they have found and then LE uses that information appropriately. It is not the administer of the exam that tells.

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    8. VTLady, can you only imagine the implications of what this anon is saying about LE.

      "As long as someone gets arrested it doesn't matter to them if its the guilty party!"

      Anon, think about this. If what you say is true about this case, LE with the 100s of pieces of evidence removed from the house and the dozens and dozens of false statements by this group would have arrested the entire group and charged them already. LE is solifying whatever case they have before making an arrest. Are you really not seeing what you are implying! It is a plain an simple deflection, an not a very good one IMO, once again!

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    9. @JohnP:

      I was just about to reply to that ignoramus's comment, too!

      That's really an offensive remark, on so many levels, it's unbelievable..

      My husband is an LEO, and is so dedicated to our community!
      He treats suspects in interrogation, and detainees with respect. Even when they do NOT make it easy for him to do so.

      The amount of dedication LE has shown to solving AYLA'S case, has been overwhelming.
      It's not just the LEO's themselves that are making sacrifices to the investigation, either---their families miss them! Any idea how *worried* the spouses and children of the SAR divers were, during the countless hours their loved ones spent in the icy river searching for AYLA??

      Do you REALLY think that what's driving these men and women is the goal of securing "just any arrest", and they don't CARE about making sure the ACTUAL guilty party is held accountable???

      Grow up.

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    10. VTLady, ITA with everything you said. The LE people I know would never do what this "person" is implying. To think of the divers placing thier lives and family securities on the line to find Ayla, the holidays they have missed with thier families to find answers, and the resolve they have shown to do what is right and stand behind it, is true devotion and dedication! This anon doesn't have a single clue as to what that statement implies. I hope and pray that they never need a LE officer to help them in the future!

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    11. I also fail to see how LE has slandered anyone, by publicly spreading KNOWN LIES, either themselves, OR thru a third party leak, in ANY OF THE THREE CASES "anon" has cited??

      Care to elaborate on that "ANONYMOUS"??
      :/

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    12. Oh. wait.
      Nevermind!
      I know where I should check for your response...

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  8. Thank u tori and adam!! The video made me cry. the love for ayla in our community is heartwarming, and everyday i hope and pray heartachingly for Ayla 2be found, or at the very least for justin and the others involved to be arrested!!
    Hang in there Trista!!

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  9. Damn!
    Elisha, you look like you coulda swallowed that missing toddler whole...

    Girl you a STRESS EATER!!

    You better unload that conscience of yours, and tell LE what you holding BACK...
    Or they gonna have to knock out one yo Mama's WALLS just to get you OUTTA her house when they finally come to arrest your fat ass!!!!!

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    1. Nice Sierra. Real nice.

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    2. Who's "Sierra"?

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  10. Beautiful video; it left me in tears. Thank you, Adam!

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  11. I agree Jenny Craig. She just keeps getting more Obese as the months wear on. Her conscience is not clear if the fatty even has one. Justice for Ayla!!!

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    1. Not to be mean...but I'm kind of *surprised* that Elisha was *ABLE TO WALK* 4 miles.

      I'm in fairly decent shape/of average weight, and would "feel it" to complete a 4 mile march...

      I figure 4 miles at HER size would be the equivalent of me completing the same--WHILE carrying 75-100 lbs of sandbags tied to me.
      Good for her, I guess, if she put in that kind of effort in order to participate.

      Just sayin'!

      [Or, did she just skip the actual "walk" and meet/address the event participants at the Violette Ave. home??]

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    2. what's important?May 7, 2012 at 11:08 AM

      JennyCraig and Suz - she also wears glasses! "Fatty Four Eyes" - remember that from grade school?

      Seriously, the physical characteristics of anyone involved in this case is irrelevant. Likely LE would agree - I doubt they have an evidence board with a picture of Elisha and the 3x5 card saying "is fat" underneath it. I imagine they consider other things like criminal history, mental illness, drug/alcohol addiction as potentially being important.

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    3. VTLady, I know you tried to word that as nicely as possible. I agree with you.

      I do also agree with, what's important. It doesn't really matter, just casual observation, I guess.. Your 3x5 card comment is true and gave me a little laugh (whether it was supposed to or not).

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    4. what's important?May 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

      Kit, I just think it's dumb how much this gets mentioned when it doesn't matter in the least.

      For example, have you EVER heard this?
      LE: We don't believe Elisha has told us everything she knows.
      Reporter: Why is that?
      LE: Well, DUH, have you seen how FAT she is?

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    5. @What's Important?: I agree with you there; I do not agree with bashing Elisha's appearance in anyway, as it has no bearing on this case. I have not removed these comments yet, as I'll defer that to J4A if she chooses to do so.

      All: Let's try and refrain from the insults in that regard; otherwise, we're no better than the others in the blog-o-sphere we choose not to mention. I saw this was addressed on A4A as well in one of their recent posts.

      As always, thank you ALL for your input!

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    6. @What's important?:

      You are absolutely correct. Elisha's weight has no bearing on her guilt.

      I think it's immature, and try NOT to go there, myself...
      BUT, I draw the line at "feeling offended" for Elisha DiPietro, or anyone else of her ilk.

      People feel HURT by Elisha and company's constant LYING!

      HURT for AYLA...
      HURT for Trista...

      HURT for the dedicated MSP investigators that the W-4 slander publicly as "inept".
      (Investigators, BTW, who sacrificied the Christmas and Easter holidays with THEIR OWN families, and CHILDREN, to try and find a missing and likely MURDERED baby that THESE selfish oafs ALREADY KNOW WHERE TO FIND)...

      HURT for the SAR dive teams who risked *frost-bite and hypothermia* to scour local bodies of water, in a LONG, COLD and FUTILE attempt to locate Ayla's little battered body!

      Right or WRONG...
      When people are feeling HURT---whether on behalf of themselves or OTHERS---they tend to lash out in retaliation, any way they can!

      If the W-4 and their apologists QUIT being deceitful, cowardly and HEARTLESS, where a missing BABY and her grief-stricken mother are concerned---
      I'm SURE the public will QUIT raking their every imperfection over the coals, in response!!

      The decision to start behaving like "decent human-beings" is COMPLETELY within their own power.
      :/

      JMO/MOO

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    7. Perfectly put, as always, VTLady! This one comment gave me goosebumps today.

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    8. what's important?May 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

      Thank you for the responses.

      VTLady, I believe the decision to behave like a decent human being is solely with each individual. Granted, "Elisha is fat" is a tame example. There's just no point to it, it has no bearing on the case, it's childish, the comment adds nothing to the discussion. IMO

      While the temptation to "lash out in retaliation" because of perceived wrongs may be a tendency, it's still each person's responsibility how they behave. 2 cases in point: 1. the individual who busted windows in the DiPietro house when Gabby was inside - it doesn't matter what he thought or felt about what was going on, it was WRONG and STUPID; and 2. Lance's "beatdown" of Justin Linnell - it doesn't matter what Lance thought of the things JL had been saying, it was WRONG and STUPID. Both of those men are responsible for their actions, whether they felt "justified" or not. IMO

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    9. No. You are right, "what's important"...

      It is NEVER justified for anyone to physically assault anyone else, OR destroy their personal property.
      And, under MOST circumstances name-calling isn't justified, OR productive, and we should AVOID stooping to such levels.

      BUT...
      Do NOT forget:
      Taunting the DiPs out of their silence, has been a successful tactic in the past...AND, if you are going to be successful, it HAS to be something percieved as "important to them" used as basis for lashing out.
      Petty insults seem to fit the bill.

      Despite their claims to the contrary, the DiPs are extremely focused on their "self-images".

      IN FACT, they're SO FOCUSED on self-image that they usually, ONLY speak out publicly, in response to a their own "wounded pride" or egos.

      Recall that it wasn't until he felt SLIGHTED by Trista, regarding supposed text messages, that Justin became "emotionally capable" of speaking publicly, following Ayla's supposed abduction.

      Recall Phoebe DiPietro's comments made in retaliation to what she percieved as McCausland "calling her family liars".

      A LOT of useful "information leakage" has been gleaned, by Statement Analyzing, the few public statements the DiPs have given.
      Most of these statements were MADE by them in retaliation for taunts they have received, no matter HOW asinine or petty.

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    10. @JMH:

      Thank you, kindly!
      :)

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    11. what's important?May 7, 2012 at 4:33 PM

      Thank you for your response, VTLady. I don't know Elisha, and I don't know if she reads here. I don't know if she would be prompted to speak out about Ayla because people on the internet are saying she is fat. Phoebe spoke out because she perceived McCausland was calling her family liars, not because people on the internet said she has ugly teeth. Justin didn't speak out because people said he has a bad haircut. It just seems like an interruption to intelligent conversation when people swear or are rude. I dismiss most any comment as without merit if someone has to talk that way. I wonder how many possibly good opinions go unheard because of how they are presented.

      Justin seems sensitive to what Trista thinks of him. Phoebe seems sensitive about how her family is perceived (not their looks). Elisha seems sensitive about her future and her baby. Courtney is probably sensitive about her stud. What if DHHS was involved and (legitimately) concerned for the other children's safety? What if one or all of them were arrested for neglect or hindering an investigation? Would somebody talk then?

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    12. The only point I can see to addressing elishas weight problem is that she is dilusional in thinking of some sort of modeling (star) career or interest. If so then she may be dilusional in other areas.

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    13. what's important?May 7, 2012 at 10:07 PM

      I understand what you're saying, Chicky. (Although, this wasn't what most commenters are referring to when they call her "fatty.") Most models are a size 0 - 2? In that regard, it would be akin to me saying I have aspirations to host a Spanish tv show, but then I don't know Spanish, have no intention of learning it, or going to Spain. So, yes, I would wonder if someone might be delusional in that situation. If she's had aspirations to be an actress I would be more inclined to wonder what in her character draws her to that and is she playing a role now?

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    14. Maybe her inspiration is Roseanne. There are exceptions to "all actors are skinny" but they have to be very talented. As far as models.. someone has to model the plus size products, but those models are usually beautiful although they are big. I was surprised when I found out that many of the bigger actors and models are actually skinny people that are made to look big with "fat suits". No one really wants to incourage an unhealthy lifestyle. Can you imagine seeing a shirt in plus size and wanting it so badly that you gain weight to fit in it? Even Ugly Betty is realy a beautiful girl, made to look ugly. I am not insulting Elisha, just thinking "outloud". But if she was my child I would be very worried about her unrealistic dreams.

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  12. Worrying about fingerprints on a table just prooves she is thinking in the terms of EVIDENCE for abduction, or no abduction. They don't even realize, evidence for abduction would have been if they showed and voiced their worry and fear for Ayla. If they begged the ones who took her not to hurt her, and to give her back. They said "kidnapped", but none of them acted as there was an abduction. Evidence would be if she made sure she told everything to LE to help the search. LE told she is witholding information (too). 90% of the people trust in the judgement of LE on that as well.
    As long as she is WITHOLDING information, people will always call her a liar.

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    1. Oh, but "Anon"---Li "doesn't CARE" what people think of her, remember??
      Lol.
      :D

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    2. VTLady and Anon 7:19AM, Of course Elisha doesn't care if people call her and her family liars, she knows it is the truth. So of course it is what she expects to happen. Why should she care that people are being honest?

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  13. I don't see these people having guilt about what happened to Ayla. They think whatever happened to her could not have been prevented, or they see it as an unfortunate accident, or perhaps even Ayla's or Trista's fault.

    They know that LE and most people would not see what happened to Ayla in the same light, but each person involved in her death or the removal and hiding of her body did not spend much time in soul-searching about right or wrong, or having to lie to survive this "accident".

    When your way of life and your future is on the line, the death of a toddler, whom you hardly know, pales in comparison to the continuation of your own present life and future.

    I think this family has been raised on survival and conscience is not a matter of primary concern. You do what you have to do to get along inside the law or out of it and not be caught. The important thing is that everybody involved stays in line or the whole thing blows apart for everybody.

    At this time, it doesn't look as if LE, with their taunts and hints about the DiPietro's lying, are having much luck with getting a merely peripheral constituent to rat out the principle actors. Possibly, the pressure has to be stepped up in some way on those not involved directly. If LE is able to determine just who that might be. Sigh.

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    1. ITA Anon. Guilt should be eating away at them and they are just going on about their normal lives like nothing happened. No guilt, no empathy, no compassion - nothing but survival instinct. It's apparent from the whole family's reactions that as kids they were never taught how to care about others feelings and taught the "golden rule". They think they can get away with anything because Mama DiP had always enabled them to get away with things (like JDips little overnight excursion in the store). Just lie, lie, lie. make up excuses, or don't talk at all and it will all go away and we'll be alright. What a screwed up family and it all starts at the matriarch.

      Does anyone who frequents this board actually know ED? What kind of a mother is she? Does she actually teach her daughter right and wrong? Or does she just ignore bad behavior or use corporal punishment? Does she spend quality time with her and play with her, read to her, etc? Or is her daughter 'just there' as a possesion? Just trying to figure out her moral compass.

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    2. @Anonymous 7:50: That was perfectly put and a GREAT thought. Thanks for sharing that; it has my mind running quite a bit. It would explain so much surrounding this case psychologically (as that aspect of this case has completely peaked my interest on one hand).

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    3. And @My Own Opinion: Another great thought. Both comments have my mind a'runnin'!

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  14. Slowly but surely everyone is distancing themselves from Justin.
    See it from inside their eyes, and sure, Justin was an odd stick but nobody dreamed in a thousand years he would murder someone, especially one of his family. In their own way they loved Ayla. Lance did the vigil, Elisha did the walk, Phoebe showed at a previous vigil. Even if they are guilty as sin, and they are, it still takes a while to get over the shock and come to grips with what happened, to then integrate that with all their happy memories of Justin as a youngster. Time always wins in the end, were all terminal here.

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    1. I see just the opposite. I think that more and more people are starting to question what has been out there in the media. It is plainly obvious that the mother and her missing sister Jessica had motive to take the baby, but so far that have gotten a free pass in the media and apparently by LE as well. In time, that free pass will give way to a more searching inquiry about the entire cast of characters.

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    2. Anon 10:04 A free pass? The media and blogosphere have laid bare her alcoholism, the intervention by DHS, her fiance's being sent to prison, the limited nature of the relationship that produced Ayla, etc. Those things are horribly embarrassing and Trista's had to endure them all. As for Jessica, the pro-DiPietro bloggers don't miss a chance to allege DHS removed her children, she has a substance abuse problem, etc. Neither of these women has gotten a free pass in the least. The bottom line is Ayla disappeared in Justin's custody and the story he's telling doesn't jive with forensics according to police investigators. So yeah, that's going to get a different kind of press because it's central to determining what happened to Ayla and it's officially-released information.

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    3. The DiPietro's seem to have gotten a "free pass" from the media (so far).

      And, I'm pretty sure LE does not give out free passes, especially during a "kidnapping"/toddler "disappearance".

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    4. Agree, Kit. The DiPietro family have gotten a free pass at this point...quite frustrating. I'm remaining hopeful that something is underway by LE that will explain their pass.

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    5. The DiPietro family has gotten a free pass?
      With the MSM perhaps, as they do try to confirm facts before they print something.
      There are litle public facts in this case. It's hard to write an article if someone won't agree to an interview.

      The DiPietro's has most definitely NOT gotten a free pass with LE.
      On the blogs they have been vilified.

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    6. Both sides of Ayla's family has been vilified. Trista has faced the criticism head on, Justin has not. He has went into hiding and blamed not talking to the media and addressing the kidnapper on how the public has been so mean to him.

      Trista's family has been accessible and has answered questions, even going out of their way to provide documents that back them up. Justin's family has evaded questions or allowed others to answer questions for him which I have shown time and time again that they have lied.

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    7. The Heat Of The Night, Right on. Pay now or pay later, but they are going to pay. There is no escaping Karma or justice.

      The only question is, who will cave and tell the truth first. They might think they are all keeping the secret and can trust each other, but that just isn't true. In real life, the only real secrets are the ones that no one else knows.

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  15. I think Elisha is spouting off what her attorney has discussed with her & Phoebe. Elisha has nothing of her own to add (outside of the cliched "it's not about sides") so she's just repeating what her lawyer has said. What normal person would bring up DNA and fingerprints at a time like that? Perhaps their lawyer is laying the groundwork for their defense; he'll be questioning the Waterville/MSP's handling of evidence. Who knows?

    Curious to note the priority of her comments: First/Most Important: "Not about sides" i.e. familial loyalty and Second/Afterthought: Ayla.

    Vita (commentator) on Peter's blog gave a particularly insightful analysis of Elisha based on her comments to Ben McCanna. Interesting read if you get a chance.

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  16. In the video it looks like Elisha is looking down instead of making very much eye contact. Am I wrong? I don't think these people know how to show any remorse or guilt. I know if one of my grandchildren disappeared under my supervision that guilt would consume me. They have no conscience. I do believe they know what happened to Ayla. My heart goes out to Ayla, Trista, and all your family. This has to be pure torture for your family. I will be praying every day for your family, and an extra prayer for Trista on Mother's Day. I just wish there was more I could do to help. I know the longer this goes on it looks bleak, but I still have to have hope Ayla will be returned to Trista and that justice will be served. The other children should have been removed from that house where Ayla was reported missing to keep them out of danger, and also maybe then the TRUTH would be told.DHHS needs to be held accountable for taking Ayla out of a safe secure place and placing her in that home. Prayers from Ohio.

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  17. I somehow can picture all the Dips standing around the "table" telling the LE to fingerprint it!!!..And this is one tale they will all be able to share in Prison.."the darn Le wouldnt fingerprint the damn table, thats why we are all in prison!!"

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    1. I wonder who's fingerprints MAY be on that table, that she is SO worried wasn't fingerprinted?? (I do think it was fingerprinted though, btw)

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    2. Just a thought- maybe they know whose fingerprints are on it and the police didn't take the set-up bait.

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    3. That's what I was thinking, but then, I'm not so sure they (the DiPietro's) would go to such a bother. That would REALLY be thinking ahead, I'm not sure if they would think of such a complicated set-up. Although the table does seem quite sensitive to ED, for her to be SO upset that she doesn't think it was fingerprinted.

      So anyway, their house was in SUCH disarray, that it caused Phoebe to be upset over, YET, there is this lone table, that was left all alone by LE? It's almost laughable.

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    4. Maybe they did test it and detected ebola and ran away.

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    5. The Coming PlagueMay 7, 2012 at 7:33 PM

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    6. Plague.. Your comment is disturbing JMO

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    7. @The Coming Plague, Though I respect your frustrations and passion for Ayla, I am sorry but the graphics concerning violence against Ayla was just too much. Please feel free to tone this aspect down and repost.

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    8. Thank you John.

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  18. It was a beautiful video. The participants awesome!

    I think it is possible that Elisha was told by one of the investigators that she "did fine" on the polygraph.

    As to the table being fingerprinted, you can usually tell if something was fingerprinted or not. It may or may not have been.
    I am sure though that the crime scene investigaters did their job in a through manner.

    The DNA, I'm sure MSP hasn't shared all of their evidence with anyone.

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  19. As far as ED's poly, I too think it's possible that the person administering the poly told her she did fine. Like in "How did I do? You did fine." So she could be telling the truth with that statement. That does not mean she passed. In most other cases I've kept up with when someone passes a poly it's published that they passed. When the comment is "no comment" or "they know how they did" then it's usually a fail. MSP said the people in that house took polys and they know how they did = FAIL - All of them.
    As Peter from Statement Analysis says "If they can't say it, we can't say it for them." She didn't say she passed, she said she did fine. How easy, if it were true, it should have been for ED to say I took a poly and I passed. She didn't say it - she didn't pass.

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    1. Let's not forget that qualifier, "It's what it is." People don't say that after something good happens.

      "Hey I just one the lottery. It's what it is."

      "I just got an A+ on my math test. It's what it is."

      No, no, no! They say that after something unfortunate happens that they can't go back and change.

      "I spent $100 on lottery tickets and didn't win a damn thing. It's what it is."

      "I didn't study for my test and got a D. It's what it is."

      Very telling, Elisha.

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    2. Oooooh!
      Very GOOD POINT, "Anon"!!
      ;)

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    3. Yes! Good observation!!

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    4. A+ for you.

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    5. Very good point about the "It's what it is." I missed that!

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    6. @anon 2:36, I was going to add that into the post above but could not word it where it sounded good, you did a perfect job. People usually say It is what it is when they have regrets about something but have conceded that they cannot change it and move on from it. You are correct, they do not say it when something good happens.

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  20. The family talks about LE,and the window,and the table,Why wont they talk about the blood? How much of Aylas blood is in the house Elisha?

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    1. Hmmm...
      MAYBE because there's no way to spin "my basement is covered in baby's-blood" as an innocent happening??
      :/

      Especially considering the baby in question was never TREATED for a "blood loss injury" during her time in their home...

      Wasn't reported "abducted" from the basement...

      AND, the blood investigators found was (at LEAST partially) attempted cleaned-up by "someone" prior to the 911 call being placed.

      Yeah. I'd say that would be a tough thing to "talk their ways out of", successfully!

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  21. Jeff do you know "if" LE has brought a cadaver dog to Courtney apt. or Justin's apt. in Portland, in case Alya met her demise there in Portland? Just a thought.

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  22. Surprise more excuses. I read this the other night and wrote about it, but I'll say it again.
    Almost five months later and she switches her story to "oh, her window wasn't locked, we just figured that out". After all of the bullshit over "we don't know if the windows and doors are locked". Yeah right. Plus I thought that wasn't the room she normally slept in?
    You know, I'm not that pissed over the lie detector results. I don't k ow how they work and have never taken one. I do know like other people have commented that its not pass/fail. I dot care if she failed as long as she mans up to it.
    I mean you can fail one of those just from the stress of taken one. I'm human people make mistakes, but not that bullshit about the window being unlocked. You can't just change your story half way through this disappearance.

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    1. Very true, NickSmith!
      When DID it go from "we're not sure" if the doors/windows were locked, to:
      The window was definitely "UNLOCKED"??

      From the way EDiP talks, it certainly doesn't sound like LE and the DiPs have suddenly come to some new "alliance" and are now freely sharing information...

      So WHAT is this new supposed FACT based on??

      I wonder if this was an attempt by EDiP and/or her LAWYER to fish for information from LE about "what they have" in terms of evidence??

      I mean LE has a record of CORRECTING misinformation publicly IF NEED BE. So maybe the tactic was "we'll float this random assertion out there, and maybe LE will confirm our suspicions for us" via CORRECTING our "mistake"???

      Just a thought.
      :/

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    2. VTLady said:

      "When DID it go from "we're not sure" if the doors/windows were locked, to: The window was definitely "UNLOCKED"??"

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      Maybe because they realized that LE would probably refute their LIE, had they blatantly said they STILL weren't "sure", after LE probably told them it was unlocked.

      They KNOW LE will not reveal the poly results, so they go ahead and lie about that. It's funny though. I was called a liar so many times (by the defenders) for saying they all took poly's, and had to find and post the link numerous times. The defenders I guess, didn't want to believe that they took poly's. Were the DiPietro's and court keeping that a secret?? Did they even tell HT? Well, there's one lie/secret down, now that ED admitted it.

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  23. I think what is important to remember in this case is that fear is an ultimate motivator. What is keeping this band of misfits together is their fear; fear of losing their freedom, their children and being incarcerated for a very long time. Conscience, guilt, ethics and morality are not part of the equation. It is straight up fear. It seems at this time, they believe sticking together and staying silent will prevent those fears from becoming a reality. If and when they realize that strategy isn't going to protect them, one of them will turn. My guess is whoever is least culpable. But something has to happen to drive that fear into action. I think it will take Ayla being found or arrests. I think if they are arrested, Elisha will fold like a Playboy centerfold.

    I had some hope for Lance. He is the oldest male in a fatherless family. I imagine he considers himself the surrogate father in the Dip family. Within that role, I think he probably feels responsible for the family's integrity. It seems he has a better sense of right and wrong and is probably more conflicted than any of the other players. However, as the pseudo father, he probably also sees himself as the family protector. We saw that play out in the Justin Linnell beat down. Someone else mentioned it above, and I think it's a very valid point. Lance has his whole family to loose if he speaks out. I think fear of that and his acting on his role as protector more than his role of teacher, will prevent him from ever coming forward, unfortunately.

    As far as Courtney, I've read she has trust issues. I think if enough doubts are raised and push comes to shove where she believes the Dips are going to turn on her, she might turn first. This would depend on how personally responsible she is for whatever happened to Ayla though.

    All it takes is for one of them to panic and it will be a cluster****. I hope that day comes soon.

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    1. Agreed, "Anon"...
      ONE arrest of ANY player for ANY CHARGE will send the DiP house of cards a tumblin'!!

      The lowest common denominator of all character traits displayed by ALL those involved = SELFISHNESS.

      No one will be going down for anyone else, regardliess of "blood-ties" or any OTHER relationship, IMHO!!

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    2. It seems that on the two(?)occasions when Elisha has briefly spoken out about Ayla's "abduction", the prime motivation for her to speak is to express her outrage over the unfair image of her family and of herself.

      According to ED, this bad PR was brought about by the professional imcompetence of LE coupled with the general stupidity of the public at large. Yep, we are too ridiculous and can be written off as zeros not even to be considered worth a thought compared to the illustrous DiPietros!

      Besides the evident selfishness and self importance the DiPs display, they can certainly cop an attitude! What gives them this sense of entitlement? Connections to people they deem are in high places? Hearts hardened and honed to a chilling indifference to other's suffering from growing up fatherless in the "mean" corriders of the projects?

      Contrast the way the DiPs handle public scrutiny and suspicion to that of the manner in which the Ed Smart family dealt with public suspicion. In spite of all the slings and arrows hurled against them, the Smarts ignored it all and continued cooperate with LE and to direct private searches for their daughter amid heartfelt and endless pleas for her return.

      Ed Smart's plight is endlessly compared to Justin's predicament by the JD defenders as if discerning people could not see all the major differences in the two cases -- including the fact that the DiPietros show no concern for Ayla at all and never look for her. They can't even ACT a concern. They can't even APE a true emotion or anxiety about this missing child.

      If Ayla had been a stranger's child "abducted" from her house, Elisha like Phoebe and Justin, would have shown more interest, curiosity and outrage in what happened to this adorable child IN THEIR HOUSE, ON THEIR WATCH! They can't even fake it!

      Of Courtney Roberts, I have little to say. How she gets away from any tiny amount of curiosity or investigation by the media is just beyond me. She has never publicly voiced any concern or even interest in Ayla's fate. And no, her dipsy display of adoration for Justin on a secret HT group online is not going public.

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    3. Forever CuriousMay 7, 2012 at 8:02 PM

      Lance's role as protector may well come down to WHO gets protected. I would think Gabby, the helpless toddler, would rate #1. If the only way he can protect her and Elisha is to make Justin man up or rat him out, I would think he would do what has to be done to ensure little Gabby has a Mommy at home to raise her.

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  24. Dipietros,Where was Ayla on the 15th? Who was watching her when Justin was in Portland? Why dont you think her family has a right to know? If she was kidnapped that night ,Why the hell wouldnt you be able to answer the question? OMG you are assholes.Tell her Mom who she was with.

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  25. Maybe if the media was a bit more assertive and followed them a bit to ask questions. Followed them everywhere and wrote about how they getting on with their lives and wrote about whether they refuse to answer questions or what they say erc. I want to know where Ayla was when JD was in Portland at 2 am. Who was babysitting her. Why was she not with Trista and her baby brother ?

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  26. Was it 12-15 2 am in the morning or 12-16 2 am in the morning? Was she reported missing on 12-17 at 9 am or 12-16 at 9 am. Whoever had her while JD was out prowling at 2 am could have done something to her. Why was she being babysat? She was supposed to be returned to Trista per DHHS directive away prior to that or Jzd was gonna have hell to pay.

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    1. He was out at 2am on the 16th. Apparently he was "moving" on the 15th - 16th. He missed her dr appointment on the 16th. He then reported her "missing" on the 17th.

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    2. All good points Suz. It makes no sense that if he was already in Portland that he couldn't take Ayla to her appointment. I'm sure one of his gal pals could of watched her.

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    3. Kit, are you referring the acct of his friend he went out with and who saw the baby blanket in the back seat? And as far as the 15th-16th moving, I am aware of that one( by private message), but did you perhaps hear when he returned to his house on the 16th...? in the morning sometime, right? I read somewhere he was out of the house on the 16th for three hours..is this what you mean? Can you articulate by date? haha I am confused or you can email Emeraldeye@hushmail.com Thanks

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    4. Emerald, I was just referring to him moving on the 15th - 16th, BUT it was 2am on the **15th**, that his credit card was used, not 2am on the 16th. Sorry for the confusion.

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      A source told The Sun that Maine State Police contacted the overnight store clerk at the Cumberland Farms, located on Pine Street in Portland's West End, saying that a credit card under the name of Justin DiPietro was used to purchase cigarettes at the store around 2 a.m. on Dec. 15, 2011.

      http://portlanddailysun.me/index.php/newsx/local-news/458-source-website-allege-missing-toddlers-father-was-in-portland

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  27. Thanks Kit. So he was in Portland on the 16th, the same day as the Orthodontist appt. Where was Ayla? That is the big question for the lying Justin DiPietro. Who had Ayla on 12/15 and 12/16? If she was alive someone had her and could take a lie detector test to prove they didn't hurt her or take her.

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    1. Yes, that is a very important question! Who was "watching" Ayla?

      Before you get jumped all over, she was supposed to go to the orthopedist (orthopedic dr). Orthodontist is for teeth (like braces). :)

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    2. Suz, I'm sorry!! It was 2am on the **15th**. I included the news article in the comment above.

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  28. I remember back, a local vendor witness saw Ayla on the 15 or 16th (I cannot remember the exact date) wearing the same Daddys princess pjs during the day. Shopping for clothing with two women. That witness did report to police. I am going to guess here and say, it was Elisha and Pheobe she was with. Next question, 24 hours of being in the same clothing? No change? No wash? Red flag for neglect! I firmly believe, it was Pheobe or Elisha who is responsible. Which would make sense as to why no one is budging. Courtney claims to not see Ayla (she is trying to clear herself of the crime) The last one to see Ayla alive isssssssss????? Elisha if Momma Dip is off to a girlfriends for the night that means Auntie dearest would've place little Ayla to bed....

    I also agreed, I a very disappointed by the media, reporters and writers. When did Mainahs get so timid? When did they loose there back bone in writing? Why do they stand to the side lines and wait for them to come to them? Why isn't there anyone waiting outside the doors, following them to work, pen in hand waiting? Asking questions? Why did they let the ball drop on that? Where are the photographers? If you cannot handle the heat, get out of the kitchen and bring in some new people.

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    1. Was that witness info in any news articles? Just local rumor? I'd like to hear more about that.

      I agree, I wish the media "pestered" them a bit more. If the DiPietro's have "no comment", then "it's what it is"...

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    2. I wish the larger media outlets would contact them for an interview, like ABc 2020 or Dateline MSNBC to do a full story about the disappearance. Maybe they would want to talk if they were paid... maybe something new may accidently slip... just sayn

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    3. Anon, yes, where did you hear that...it has not been in the media, or on the blogs! This is the first I have heard of it...can you please elaborate if you heard it or read it? There has been no confirmed(to the public or maternal family) sightings of Ayla outside the family or Derek Tudela since Dec. 8th. Thanks

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    4. Anon, was it possible that the vendor saw Gabby and not Ayla? Maybe Gabby has the same PJs and that is why they are confused on who bought Ayla's. If someone did see Ayla I did not see the comment. Maybe Trista could call LE and ask them if they did get a call from someone seeing her. (for their own sake, not only because I want to know too..)
      As far as the question about the reporters following the DIPs, they way it has been explained to me, is that they have to be careful not to point fingures without quotes from a credited source (like LE) or from Justin himself until LE names them as a "person of interest" or a "suspect" then they have more freedom to do more.
      Also- I'd just like to add- Great idea Mercedes. I bet you are right! Maybe we can all put money into a pool and pay them ourselves... $20 each question that they answer. $30,000 if they can answer the most important, Where is Ayla? But you have to concider that there is only so much that you can buy from the prison canteen.

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  29. ***********IF************ Trista stole Ayla from Justin, what could she be charged with? And since Justin FIRST stole Ayla, couldn't he be charged with the same thing?

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  30. The 16th she was supposed to be at the DR, and now maybe 2 women had her out shopping that day" very interesting. Thanks

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  31. Dipietros,tell us where Ayla was on the 15th,why is it a secret? Who was watching her? It has nothing to do with the night she was missing ,so why cant you answer the question?

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    1. @Leah,

      That's the problem, though... isn't it?
      Ayla was ALREADY gone by the 15th.

      Jeff Hanson indicated on A4A that MSP has told Trista "it ISN'T true" that Ayla has been "missing since the 8th of December", but would not elaborate further.
      Personally...I would NOT take this as any kind of confirmation, that Ayla was "alive and well" as late as the 15th or 16th.

      An entire WEEK of stone-walling Trista from speaking to Ayla happened for a reason...as did the skipped orthopedic appointment.
      Maybe something "happened" to Ayla on the 9th or 10th, but my GUT tells me it wasn't too much LATER than that!!
      JMO/MOO

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    2. ITA VTLady!

      There is importance in what they have to say about where exactly Ayla was on the 15th. Who was "watching" her? No one appears to want to come forward and LIE, and say they were watching her. She wasn't with him at 2am, so where was she? She had to be with SOMEONE - **IF** she wasn't "kidnapped" until Dec. 16-17.

      Where is Ayla?

      Where was she on December 15, 2:00am??

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  33. Elisha-which is more important to you?
    Gabby or lying for your brother?

    Justin-which is more important to you?
    Ayla? or Your Freedom to smoke it?

    Courtney-which is more important to you?
    Aiden or lying for a man who has cheated on you?

    Pheebs-Which is more important to you?
    Truth for Ayla or lying for your waste -of-space kids!

    Derek-Which is more important to you?
    Destroying your son and wife or lying for your drug buddy?

    Heidi-Which is more important to you?
    Destroying your entire family ?
    Destroying your reputations?
    You are doing both!
    Would you turn your own son in if he killed YOUR grandchild? Think Hard, Heidi

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    1. Great questions, Anon 11:45! I second the sentiments.

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    2. I think Derek is not just covering for Justin, same with Heidi. I think Derek is covering for himself, and Heidi is covering for her son, not just Justin...

      Ayla is no relation to Heidi, same with Justin. There is a difference between being loyal (to a friend) and being plain stupid. Heidi is covering for her own flesh and blood, possibly even blindly. I actually don't think she knows everything that has happened, just that her son may (and probably) be getting in some deep trouble, BECAUSE of Justin. She has to defend Justin, in order to defend her son.

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    3. Kit,
      it is very possible, as why lie about a play date and risk your career, marriage and reputation for a friend who you are not 100% certain is innocent...
      they were not there in the house that night, and Derek has failed to elaborate abut his supposed play date on the 16th(time arrived, left, what they did, etc...), or the acct surfacing about the 15th, and the LIP, and why on earth Ayla missed her doctor appointment, but was able to make a play date?

      And his mother is doing the same thing, ignoring vital questions as if not even asked, and risking everything the family has built for a freind they say they will still be OK with having defended if found guilty of "something."

      ......something?
      You mean the critical injury and removal of his child, AYLA?

      What's the matter Heidi, can't bring yourself to say it? Beause that would mean you are too ignorant and naive to realize he was lying to you(I doubt that since you are all in insurance, where people lie on claims all the time...), or you are indeed covering for your son for more than just a life insurance policy that is shady...

      My aunt was a state farm agent for a long time, and she never tried to get me, or any friends to buy an LIP on my kids...

      Unless you all are pushy about offering LIP's to your clients, I am assuming Justin jumped right on that offer,to your son's delight...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

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    4. Emerald, Didn't I read that there was an appointment missed on the 12th as well? That the 16th was a make-up for the 12th? Something was missed on the 12th but now I can't find the article describing it.

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    5. I vaguely recall the date December 12th as having some timeline significance, too, JohnP.

      I'll try and track down some info---I'm NOT sure if it was the date of another skipped appointment, my curiosity has been piqued!
      :)

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    6. @JohnP:

      So far, the only thing I can find with the date of "12th" attached to it, is NOVEMBER 12th being when the DiPs first contacted Trista about Ayla's arm from the ER department...

      Still looking, though!

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    7. There was some blog discussion about it being strange that the 10 day follow-up with from the Nov.21st orthopedist appointment was postponed until Dec.16th.

      Apparently this date was chosen by the orthopedic office receiptionist, though, and was not due to another "missed" appointment by Justin, according to Jeff on A4A.

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    8. The myth, that this will somehow go away. It will never go away until there is a resolution. They can lie, they can try to go on with their lives but they always be looking over their shoulders. Because the people who truly love Ayla will never go away, people seeking the truth will never go away. We and the LE will always be watching, always listening and always be ready to take down the perpetrators of this crime against Ayla. So, keep watching your back and wonder who is going to be the first to tell the truth and where will YOU be then?

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    9. VTLady, Thanks for looking! I have been looking for hours thinking it was a DHHS or WIC appointment but the only 12th I could find was also the Nov 12th date. I must be imagining things in my old age. Sorry for wasting your time.

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  34. Baby Ayla's disappearance has become such a frustration, which is a complete understatement to how many of us feel. The quagmire of what this investigation even is leaves me with a lack of clarity to even articulate my feelings; considering that the investigators have scrutinized all of the avenues that we as the concerned people delivered to the table however still have come up with nothing, leaves me at a loss. They must have subsequently traversed what we are still questioning, right? If so, why is this family not being pressured by the FBI, by Maine State Police by the local media? The team of investigators claim that the Dipietros are not communicating with them: What is that supposed to mean?
    We as the public spend a ton of time worrying about this baby girl, Ayla, but the logic behind the direction of the investigation is befuddling. Count the hours of blogging and commenting and thought provocation that we have given baby Ayla. Thousands of hours. If this is all in vain I will be pretty upset, especially if the DiPietros walk because the MSP are not doing everything that needs to be done. Are the police turning every rock? No! What is this telling the public. Hurt a child, sell a child, do what ever you want - no body no crime. No big deal. Is this the message we want to send? Would the investigation be different if Trista Reynolds and Justin Dipietro were affluent and not working class?
    Oviously the pressure has not been placed onto the DiPietro family. No one has been named a person of interest, even though the LE states that their story does not pass the test. So fine, what is the reason that they are playing their cards so close? Aside the maternal family, we as concerned people are keeping baby Ayla's name alive, we are the one's placing pressure on the DiPietro clan, not the police. With that I can say that I feel that they are failing baby Ayla. We have a missing child and the Police are hush. Maybe they believe that she is not missing, okay fine, then place pressure on the family, because if we continue with the status quo - THEY WILL WALK. I have asked this a few times, but why hasn't Pheobe been charged with hindering the investigation since she lied about being home. I mean, why are they not breathing down her neck and asking her WHY SHE FELT SHE NEEDED TO GIVE JUSTIN A ALIBI?

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    1. Great thoughts there, Mercedes. Thanks for sharing!

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    2. I think they are playing it close to form an air tight case if they can not find her alive(remote chance) or her remains(likely at this point)...I think that that is LE's greatest fear, is that they will walk, and I think that the men and women working hard on this are personally invested, emotionally, and this is something they will not even consider, after watching the Anthony trial...so they can afford to wait to find her, or get a vital tip that breaks it all open, or a confession...

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    3. Remember, there is not statute of limitation of this, they can be arrested in ne year, or twenty...better start looking over your shoulders...or waiting for that knock :D

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    4. Mercedes -- we're all there with you in the frustration. I agree the journalism surrounding this case is vexing. I don't understand it. I have to keep faith that the MSP, as Emerald mentions, has a strategy and are keeping things tight for all the right reasons. It might have been Kit, but someone here did speak with an LE official who said they were getting "very close." I suppose we can take comfort in that.


      What I do find weird is, if LE KNOWS that the DiPs are SO easily provoked and SO concerned with public opinion -- a la Justin's first public statement, Elisha's comments and Phoebe's "McCausland's full of himself" remark -- then why aren't they provoking them MORE? Why not let their pride & arrogance get the best of them? Why not prod? I guess, again, that we have to believe there's some method involved.

      One thread throughout EDiP's comments is "We didn't do anything wrong." She's said this on more than one occasion. It seems that the DiP moral code is family loyalty above ALL including Ayla. Their omerta. They cling to it fiercely and Phoebe as the matriarch indoctrinates them with it. They live by this street code, it defines them. Wrong = being a rat. "We didn't do anything WRONG." Courtney, also having her fair share of street knowledge, gets it. She's right there with them. She may not be blood but she ain't a rat.

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    5. Mercedes, I do agree that Tristas family and we the public appear to be placing the pressure on the DiPietros. But I also believe that half the pressure is provided by information LE has provided to Trista and her family. They must walk a tight rope to not jeopardize the investigation. There is information they can let the family have and there is other information they can not. We do not know what is happening between LE and the herd of attourneys the DiPietros have. We can only speculate. The one thing that we can do as citizens that care so much for Ayla is believe that LE is doing the right thing. If we give up that belief, we are giving up hope that LE will find Ayla. I know that is not what you or I want or mean. Basically I guess what I am asking is that you Don't give up hope in LE!

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  35. After reading the article again and all the comments, I think it is sinking in for Elisha that Justin is not going to get away with it. It was probably Elisha that gathered up all the teddy bears and brought them into the house that is a significant statement. She may only now be coming to grips with the idea that Justin probably murdered Ayla. Lance has had more time because he was aware of the blood stain and spoke to Bob Vear about it on 12-24.

    I think you did a good balanced article on pros cons and middle ground J4A.

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  36. Are you saying that everyone's teddy bear for Ayla has been removed? Why would Elisha do that? Explain!

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  37. If they removed the Teddy bears I hope it was just to mow the lawn ,and they return them.

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    1. Maybe they are going to bring the teddy bears to Ayla. Perhaps LE should follow them in case they do.

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  38. It said Elisha allowed some people to come inside and see the huge array of teddies. Sort of letting them know they weren't trashed. She brought the bears in and allowed some walkers who were willing to come in and see them.

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    1. Huh? Maybe that was the "right" thing for her to do... Seems a little strange to me...

      Where are they keeping the bears?

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    2. The right thing to do would've been if Elisha collected them all up and gave them to TRISTA.

      I doubt many who left teddies for AYLA, would want the bears to reside within the DiP home...amongst the LIARS preventing AYLA's murderer(s) being charged, and her remains from being laid to rest!!

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    3. OMG!How petty can you people possibly be?
      Who cares where the teddy bears are?
      Where's AYLA?!?!

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    4. I'm glad Elisha brought the teddies inside. I bothered me to see them out in the rain. I feel better knowing that they are safe inside the house. I hope she brings all of them inside, and washes them and keeps them safe for Ayla. Ayla will be thrilled to see them all when she gets back.

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    5. IF Ayla is found alive she will be going straight to TRISTA.No one will ever make Ayla step foot in the Violence Avenue 'House of Horrors'ever again.Count on it.

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    6. WouldNotTrustWithMyPetRockMay 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM

      The DiPs couldn't even keep track of Ayla's precious security object during her brief time with them.
      They allowed her beloved stuffed doggy to be "lost".Maybe they should just give AYLA'S teddy bears to Trista for safe keeping.

      Elisha DiPietro:
      THOSE BEARS ARE NOT FOR GABBY!!!!!!!!!
      Pack them up and give them to AYLA'S mom you trashy LIAR!!!!!!!!!

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    7. Maybe Ayla would want her bears to go to her little cousin since she cant be there to play with them?

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    8. PetRock, I'm in NO WAY defending the DiPietro's, but Ayla's doggy was lost at Jessica's house.

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    9. what's important?May 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

      I'm not understanding... would people prefer these stuffed bears were left rotting on the ground in front of the house? Why would people have hateful feelings for baby Gabby? Is she now a suspect? Those that believe Elisha is going to jail, what do you think is going to happen to Gabby? I pray for the safety and well-being of all the children in this case, they are ALL hurting in some way. What would Trista do with hundreds of stuffed bears? and no, they are not really Trista's... they were left as hope for Ayla, on the DiPietro's lawn. I'm glad they brought them inside, I would have thought it disrespectful if they had left the well-meaning intentions of others outside.

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    10. I think someone has read something wrong.. or maybe it was me, but the teddy bears were all outside for the Walk. No one was offered to go inside the house.

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    11. what's important?May 8, 2012 at 9:17 PM

      PB, were the teddy bears clean/dry?

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  39. We all care about Ayla,I think your being petty.We had gone to vigils,posted her pics,keep searching for her,People put the Teddys there as a gift to her.To say you are not going to be forgotten Ayla.They are an important.A lot of little kids felt bad for Ayla and left Teddys for her,it made them feel better.Of course finding Ayla is the most important thing but we dont know where she is,you dont have to be rude to people that really do care about Ayla.

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    1. Yeah, and it's also a case of the teddy bears were left FOR AYLA!
      By the DiPs taking them inside their home, it's like they're saying:
      "We'll hang on to these gifts FOR her, so when/if Ayla's returned TO US... they'll be right HERE waiting for her!"

      If by some MIRACLE Ayla is found alive, how many people want to think (for even ONE SECOND!) about her being returned to the "care" of Justin DiPietro??
      D:

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    2. Jeff posted on A4A I believe, that Trista was informed by LE she would be recieving Ayla if/when found and after being medically checked out.

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    3. Why would LE let Trista keep Ayla after they discover she kidnapped and hid her?JD will be getting his baby girl back and that drunk will be going to jail with big sista Jess!

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    4. Yes John, I remember Jeff saying that Ayla would be returned to Trista, after being medically checked.

      Regarding the bears. I was thinking it was strange that Elisha had people/strangers into her home - whether to see Ayla's bears or for any reason. Her niece was supposedly just "kidnapped" out of that home, from her bed...

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    5. anon, do you really think that comment will distract or deter what LE has already stated? I don't think so, bro!

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    6. @Kit:
      Yeah, good point!
      You claim that an as-of-yet identified person (POSSIBLY a "stranger") violated the sanctity of your home, by sneaking in and stealing your beloved niece/granddaughter FROM HER BED, in the middle of the night...
      YET you let a group of strangers into your home WILLINGLY??
      When she has a daughter Ayla's age still living in that home?
      D:

      This situation would be as unnatural as a rape victim inviting some strange man into her home, soon after being attacked, while her unknown rapist remains at-large, IMHO.
      :/

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    7. Don't mind the "Anon", JohnP.
      You can't fix stupid.
      [Or reason with it!]
      ;)

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    8. Elisha did not let people go inside her house. Even if she offered, I am not sure that many would have... I was there, the bears were outside uner the tree. No one went into the DIP house. If anyone brought the bears inside, it was after the walk, although I doubt it. They were all wet and dirty, like they have been outside this whole time.

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  40. Just so everyone knows, Kit made a suggestion about a tab to leave Prayers and Wishes for Ayla, Trista, and Family. The suggestion was heard and the gracious ladies of J4A have acted on this suggestion. At the top of this page, you will find the appropriate tab if you wish to leave a wish or prayer. Thank You Kit!!

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  41. I said it before in various blows and ill say it again. I believe Justin and courtney dumped Aylas body in the Portland area. Probably down a sewer. To report a staged kidnapping in the same geographic area that they dumped her body wouldn't make any sense, so why arnt law enforcement searching Portland? Or searching the sewer system of the nearby area where Justin and courtney lived in the west end?

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