Tuesday, May 8, 2012

LE Says "No Evidence of an Abduction"



Ask any one of us contributors on this blog what we feel Elisha's involvement in Ayla's disappearance is and you will likely get a different answer from each contributor. I have long felt that Elisha is not innocent in all of this as some people feel but I have always respected their opinions as to why they feel the way they do. In light of Elisha's recent statement to the media, I feel more confident in my initial belief that Elisha possibly was the one responsible for what happened to Ayla.

Elisha hired an attorney early on, friends and family of Elisha have stated she retained an attorney as a liaison to the media if that was the case why did she hire an attorney who specializes in criminal law? If the purpose of the attorney was only to deflect media inquiries wouldn't one attorney be sufficient for the whole family? Why would Phoebe and Elisha feel the need to hire one attorney and Justin the need to hire another? I have asked anyone to enlighten me on other reasons that a family of a missing child would hire separate attorneys other than the most obvious and only reason I could come up with and that was that the attorney advised them that he could not successfully defend one without implicating the other. I received no responses to that question.

I also have been told by more than one person that even Lance questioned whether or not Elisha was capable of harming Ayla. Lance had concerns that Elisha was jealous of Ayla and that he suspected that she was upset because attention was being taken away from Gabby. Was Elisha watching Ayla when something happened, either intentionally or accidentally? Did the family decide to cover for Elisha because of the adverse impact that it would have on Gabby if Elisha went to jail? It has been said that it is illogical for 5 people to keep a secret like this for so long but if they were all doing it for the benefit of not only Elisha but for Gabby, it doesn't make it so illogical.

Elisha's recent interview with Ben McCanna for the Morning Sentinel, without her attorney I might add, did nothing to change my perspective on Elisha's involvement in this case. In fact, it made me more convinced of her guilt.  Elisha not only called out LE on their supposed incompetency in handling Ayla's case but also made sure to drop the info that the window to Ayla's room was unlocked whereas it was always locked. I find it funny that this is coming out now since the family previously stated that they didn't know whether or not the windows and doors were unlocked. How is she so sure now? Even if that were true, who unlocked the window? It had to be someone inside the house since it is impossible to unlock a window from the outside.



Not only is it impossible to unlock a window from the outside, LE stated early on that it was not possible to open the window from the outside, LE would have known at the time of releasing that statement that the window was unlocked, so even being unlocked, it was impossible to open from the outside. Even if someone did come into the home and take Ayla, they did not come in from the unlocked window in Ayla's bedroom.


A window taken from the Violette Avenue bedroom where Justin DiPietro claimed his daughter was sleeping did not appear to be tampered with and could not be opened from the outside, law enforcement sources said.


Read more:

 http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/30334378/detail.html#ixzz1uJZbPMH1


It makes no sense to me that someone would enter the house through the door, walk through the home, find Ayla who is sleeping in Phoebe's room and not her own bedroom, then proceed to Ayla's bedroom and climb out the window. Avoiding the table in front of the window and not waking Ayla up while doing all of this or hurting her broken arm and causing her to cry out. Why not just go back out the way they came in?

LE took the window from Ayla's room and brought it to the crime lab for analysis. LE stated that there was ZERO evidence that supported the claim by those in the home that Ayla was abducted. That means that on that window and that frame there was not one piece of stray hair, not one fiber from the abductor's jacket, gloves, clothing etc that backs up an abduction. There also was not one piece of evidence whether hair or a fiber from Ayla's clothes or even a blanket she was possibly wrapped in to show that she was transported through that window which would back up the abduction claims. There was not ONE thing. How can someone squeeze through a window with a toddler in their arms and not rub against either the frame or the glass and leave something there, a hair or a minuscule piece of thread? To think that someone could is illogical.


I also find it humorous that Justin's supporters have recently tried to point out that Trista's stories have been inconsistent and that Justin's story has stayed the same. Justin's stories and the stories of those involved seem to change quite often which is amazing since they rarely address the public or talk to the media. No matter how hard they try to point the finger in another direction and no matter how hard they try to claim that there was an abduction and that someone came into the house and took Ayla, whether it was Justin Linnell or Jessica Reynolds or Trista Reynolds they try to blame, the one thing that remains the same is that LE has found ZERO evidence of an abduction. Why not address Ayla's blood? How many different stories have we heard about the blood and how it got there? What about the Life Insurance Policy? How convenient that Ayla had a $25,000 policy put out on her only weeks before she disappeared.



Off Topic: Some of you who email me know that I am going in for surgerynsoon.  I was diagnosed with Cervical Cancer last year and had part of my Cervix removed, it is back and possibly has spread to my Uterus. I will be going in for a complete Hysterectomy in a few weeks, we are just waiting for the results of the biopsy I had yesterday. I will only be away from the blog for a few days since I am relatively sure there is wifi at the hospital I can access the blog from. Some of you have asked for an address where you can send cards or flowers, I appreciate all of the offers although it is not necessary to do so, just your thoughts and well wishes have been heartwarming enough. I will be at Inland Hospital on Kennedy Memorial Drive in Waterville, I will update you all when I know the exact dates I will be there but  most likely it will be around the 17th to the 21st as the date I go in. Some of you have also asked for my home address, I do not feel comfortable posting it online but if you want to email me at justiceforayla@yahoo.com I will share it with you however it is not necessary to send me anything, well except maybe chocolate. :)  Oh and please feel free to donate to my bills that will be severely neglected, worse than they are while I am recovering. ;)















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190 comments:

  1. Oh! I'm sorry to hear this news, Tori..
    I'll be keeping your biopsy in prayer, that it comes back negative for cancer cells!
    Please focus on resting.
    :(

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    1. Thank you VTLady, it is really my own fault, I was supposed to go in 6 months ago for a check up and I put it off and waited another 6 months. A good lesson not to put your health off! :)

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    2. Lol!
      Oh, I *never* put off well visits! [crosses fingers behind back]
      It really sucks to hear you are going thru this.
      I hope that man of yours is prepared to pamper you while you recover??
      :)

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    3. Tell him he better be ready to pamper you like a princess!!! ;0)

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  2. Oh my!! I am so sorry you are going thru this. I'm sending good thoughts your way for a very quick and complete recovery.

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    1. Thank You Lin and I got your most recent email just haven't had a chance to respond. :)

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  3. I agree with all of your thoughts here!!
    Sorry you have to go in for surgery. I hope you feel better and recover as soon as possible!!! Think happy thoughts and download a lot of books on your computer to keep you from going crazy!!! Every time someone says Inland Hospital I think of my son...that was where he was born :)

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    1. It is a great hospital! My daughter was born there and I think they have a great staff. I hope I will be able to eat because for a hospital,they have very good food. :)

      I just downloaded Amazon Cloud onto my laptop so I was able to get all of my ebooks from my kindle on to my laptop until I can replace my kindle fire so I have tons of books and movies to bring. :) And of course I will have internet so have the blog and all of you :)

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    2. Tori,
      I hope the biopsy comes back negative! It is amazing how caring people put themselves last! You are a very caring person and amazing!
      Now for your Kindle just go to Amazon books and in the yellow tab to order a book it says get Kindle for pc and it will download all your books to your pc so you will be able to read on your kindle and your laptop. They will always be on the page you left on. You can also do it on your phone!

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    3. Thank you Juls

      I have my laptop all set up with the books from my kindle and I am good to go. I am sure I will be sending most of my time on the blog though. ;)

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    4. J4A,

      I have seen Waterville bashed recently because of this case but I know that MGMC and Inland are both well respected and accomplished hospitals, you are in good hands.

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  4. I love the new pics posted of the DiP siblings, BTW! Most especially the one of Derek's Boy Peach!!
    ;)

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  5. where can I get a tshirt like Justin's? ;)

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    1. The pictures are great and I can't wait to see what other shirts Justin will be wearing in upcoming blog posts. ;)

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    2. That is THE BEST picture of Justin yet!! I know it's not funny, but I seriously had to stop reading and wait until I stopped laughing to continue! I'll be looking forward to his wardrobe change. Omg, that was priceless!

      The troll picture was GREAT also!

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    3. Zazzle.com---And, don't worry...
      It's only set to a 10% commission rate, and "someone" promises to set up an account in Justin's name to funnel ALL the profits into.
      In fact, we fully plan to apply for official 501c3 "non-profit organization" status, too.
      You know. eventually.
      ;)

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    4. The picture of Justin couldn't be more perfect, he looks so awkward pointing to his shirt which did have a picture of Ayla on it. When I was sent it, I laughed so hard and knew I had to post it.

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    5. Great shot of JD! Is he throwing a gang sign or is he constipated?

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    6. He's constipated. He's been full of sh*t since December 17th.

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    7. Lol!!!!!

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  6. Awww Tori, I am very sorry to hear such news about your health also! :( I pray for a speedy recovery for you. I'm sorry for what you have had to endure, and will have to endure.

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    1. Thanks Kit, I appreciate it and although it is more of an inconvenience it is nothing like what Trista has to endure, so I will take cancer, even with chemo and radiation, over that pain any day!

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    2. Oh Tori, I delayed commenting because I didn't
      know what or how to say anything.
      I am a cancer survivor. 2009. Surgery, radiation and oral pills.
      I had a scare ( another lump ) three weeks ago
      and had to go for tests and I passed them. ( A minor issue,cleared it up with steriods )
      I was so afraid of f*(& this, here we go again. I hate it when ladies or gentlemen younger than me like you are have to go thru this.
      I did everthing I was told to do by my surgeon
      and was assured that it is not the illness it was
      a few years ago.
      Please take care of yourself, people care about you. People who don't even know you care alot.
      That says quite a bit about how we have come to
      know your and what is in your heart and your soul
      that comes to us via what you write.
      I hope your results are good.

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    3. Thank You, I am glad you wrote and I am glad that your last tests were not serious. I made a big mistake of not taking this as seriously as I should have. I figured cervical cancer was nothing to worry about, very common and very easily remedied. I was wrong.

      It has been very heartwarming to see all of you standing behind me and supporting me and praying for me. I have met so many wonderful people on this blog and there were times when I was so frustrated in the beginning that I almost closed it down. I am so glad I did not. I will keep you all updated Monday and on what the test results are and I will text JMH when I am done surgery and out of recovery so she can let you all know how I am :)

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  7. Why do you keep saying that ayla was sleeping in Phoebe's bedroom? Where did you hear that?

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    1. I was wondering the same thing. I took the comment about "not normal sleeping arrangements" as to the fact that Gabby was in Gabby's room and not in the same room as Ayla.(not that Ayla was not in her room.)

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    2. Well, where did Ayla normally sleep?

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    3. LE said Ayla was not in a room she normally slept in.

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    4. From the article I posted in the last blog post, it said Ayla was not in a room she normally slept in, because Gabby and Ayla's room, which it has been said the two cousins shared a bedroom. have both a crib and a toddler bed in it, I assumed that would be the room she notmally did sleep in. McCausland made a comment that she was in the room adjacent to where she normally sleeps, Phoebe's bedroom is adjacent to Gabby and Ayla's room and because we know Phoebe was not home and that Ayla was not in the room she normally slept in, I deduced that she was in Phoebe's room. I could be wrong, as I have been about plenty of things but this is how I interpreted that information.

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    5. McCausland says that in the article noted in your last blog post?

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    6. Little Ayla should have had her own bed, where she had some consistancy since she had been shuffled around, close to the person who loved her, so why was she not in her bedroom?
      I can't believe anything the dips say.

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    7. See, that is why I read this blog. I totally missed the comment about her not sleeping in her normal room.. thanks for the clarification.

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    8. On the night that the girl was last seen, DiPietro, 24, and his girlfriend, along with her small child, were allegedly in the basement of the Waterville home. DiPietro's sister was also in the house, along with her young child, in a bedroom on the main level, while Ayla was reportedly in an adjacent bedroom by herself. DiPietro's mother was not at home that night.
      "The adults inside that home say someone came into the house -- a small home -- went into a bedroom Ayla normally doesn't sleep in, took her, vanished in the night -- and not one of them heard or saw anything," McCausland said.

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    9. Thank you Tori. I was trying to figure that out for a while now. Feel better.

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    10. So if Ayla was in Phoebe's room, why would Elisha care about an unlocked window in the room she shared with Gabby? How would she have seen Ayla when she checked on fussy Gabby @10p if they weren't in the same room? I don't know if the DPs were telling different stories about her location or what, but it doesn't add up...

      Tori- Good luck on your biopsy results and upcoming surgery:)

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    11. I believe they are trying to say Ayla "normally" slept in the basement. But, that just appears to be BS, by using common sense and to top it off, it HAS been said that Ayla and Gabby share a room, numerous times.

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    12. Exactly! Why would someone enter the house, find Ayla in Phoebe's room and then decide to climb out the window in a different bedroom, if they had to climb out the window for fear of being seen or caught, why not climb out the window of the room they were in? If it was safe enough to walk from room to room, it would be safe enough to walk a few more feet to the door.

      Thank you Hope for Ayla and Heather. I appreciate it. :)

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    13. If all else fails they could blame it on aliens teleporting in and out, OR magic. At some point they will run out of lies and excuses and plead insanity.

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  8. Tori- Good luck with your surgery. Get well soon. You should call someone and have them post here when you are out of surgery so we all know you are ok.

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    1. I will do that, good idea! Thank you PB

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    2. Yes! Great idea PB!

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  9. Who unlocked the window? Well... Who's fingerprints were on it; on the lock? I'd love to know!

    Also, regarding Elisha and any of the DiPietro's participating in any type of vigil/event for Ayla. They don't deserve some type of *special* "credit", for participating. They have never shown any kind of true emotion FOR AYLA. I know it was debated if Elisha was showing emotion or guilt. People do things all the time, that they later regret, maybe they are really sorry, maybe just sorry that they may get caught. I can't imagine how much regret someone would have after pretending that their baby daughter, granddaughter, niece, "like a daughter", etc. had been "kidnapped". They could very well have true emotion, even true tears, BUT, not for the right reasons. Not FOR Ayla. The DiPietro's can't even seem to FAKE some emotion, concern or love for Ayla.

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    1. Ayla seems to be an afterthought...

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  10. Hey, does anyone know why Jeff posted that pic and comment about the discarded items across from Courtney's mother's place in Portland, on the A4A blog??

    Is that now-empty apartment where CR and BR used to live?
    Does anyone know if CR up and moved out of town, or WHERE she is??

    The detractors drone on, ad nauseum, about Jessica Reynolds being "unaccounted for"..
    But does ANYONE KNOW where Courtney Roberts can be located??
    Just sayin'!

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    1. VTLady, I thought it said that was Justin's old apartment on the right (that now appears empty), and straight ahead was/is the Cumberland Farms he was at, on Dec. 15th at 2am.

      I believe court live(d) across the street (her mother too?). That's a good question. Where IS she?

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    2. She did live across the street and the lease was up on Justin's old apartment and they all moved out May 1st.

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    3. Does she still live there? Is Justin still staying at HT's home?

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  11. Tori, you know my thoughts are with you!! I had a 5 hour surgery at Inland and they were fantastic I hope your tests come back okay and the surgery does not have to be more invasive.
    Donations? Sure!!! Chocolate I can do!! :-)

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    1. I appreciate it Chicky and I am not picky when it comes to chocolate, just nothing with coconut :)

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    2. I'll eat the coconut ones out of the box before sending it!! There may be a few others missing as well!

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  12. Tori, I have to say that for you to be dealing with your own condition while staying so devoted to Justice for Ayla is truely courageous. You have shown us that one can care more about others than themselves. My friend, it is now time to fight for yourself. You are a fighter for Ayla and I know you will fight through this for your family. You have all our support!!

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    1. Thank you John, you are a good friend. Thanks for letting me vent to you. :)

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    2. Also. I have family that lives in a large towns (such as Waterville) . They are all drilled about locking doors/windows
      at all times..just can’t understand the negligence of not knowing door/windows not locked

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  13. I also really can't understand why someone would come in the unlocked door, then crawl/jump out a window with a toddler, who has a broken arm, who they were kidnapping... I'm no kidnapper, but I would head on back out the door. Btw, how did they CLOSE the window, after jumping down to the ground?
    (you know, the window that was not tampered with)

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    1. I should have brought that up in the post! How did they shut the screen, storm window, and even the window itself after jumping out it with an injured toddler? I guess we really are looking for ninjas

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    2. Lol!
      Hmmm..
      Maybe Trista and Jessica both broke in thru the unlocked front door, headed to Phoebe's room (where they couldn't have even known Ayla was sleeping), wrapped Ayla and Trista head to toe in Saran wrap, then Jessica lowered them out the window.
      Jess then reclosed the window and headed down into the basement, where she planted Ayla's blood, before heading BACK out the front door. All in silence.

      [Hey, they aren't striving for "likely" here..."shadow of a doubt" will do just fine!]
      ;)

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    3. No! C'mon! They made a rope out of tied together sheets! Then they got on each others shoulders to close the window!

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    4. No, no, Ayla unlocked the window and climbed out herself with her broken arm. She then walked into downtown where she hot wired a car and drove herself to Portland where she joined the church of Scientology. Realizing that wasn't for her, she escaped the Scientologists and acquired a passport under an assumed identity. She's now living happily in Mexico where she runs a frozen banana hut. Yeah, that's it.

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  14. I believe the story about Ayla being taken out the window about as much as I believe pigs fly. And Elisha hired a criminal attorney??? These murderers should keep on talking, they're gonna eventually slip up.
    Tori,
    My thoughts and prayers are with you,
    With all the good people here praying for you, you're gonna be just fine.

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    1. Watch out Chipmunk, next another blog will post an article about genetically altered pigs that can fly ;)

      Elisha hired Stephen Bourget as her attorney, he is a criminal attorney and even a court appointed attorney for the indigent. Not my first choice for a liaison to the media or for a criminal case period.

      Thanks for the thoughts and prayers. I appreciate all of you!

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    2. I'm sure Trista's pictures will show her sporting some "new" t-shirts...

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    3. No, she will just use some pictures of my kids or dig up dirt on me. :)

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    4. That's sad. At least you are taking it in stride. :( Sometimes things lose their shock value, when they are repeated over and over...

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  15. Regarding Elisha's guilt...

    I'm not sure how involved she was to begin with. I COULD see her becoming so jealous, and resentful, that she almost hated Ayla, or at least couldn't "stand her". I COULD see her just not caring about whatever Ayla was doing, when she was supposed to be watching her. OR even "snapping" out of jealousy and resentment and doing something to Ayla out of anger and rage. She looks innocent enough, but I'm not buyin' it...

    The problem with that is, Justin. I could see Phoebe covering for her daughter. Maybe even Justin, at first. But, how long would you let EVERYONE think you did something to your daughter, knowing full well, who really did it. Once again, not out of love for Ayla, but out of his own "image", I'm not convinced HE would be covering for HER.

    Now, she may have known right from the begining what happened. After all, Ayla's blood is down in the basement. Did she not hear OR see something strange going on??

    We can assume she wasn't home. But, even still, she still would have had to see some strange things going on, after the fact. If this "something" happened a few days before Ayla was "kidnapped", she had to have noticed, that OTHER KID was, not around. Same goes for Phoebe too.

    Bottom line. She either knew right along, or knew after the fact. Was she away, on vacation or something, in the days leading up to Ayla's "kidnapping"?

    For argument sake, lets say she really had no idea, until she woke up on Dec. 17th. There is still NO WAY she thinks someone came in and kidnapped Ayla, at this point. Same goes for all of them.

    JMO

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    1. I agree. I think that we all know that she was not "AWAY" the night Justin reported her missing. Elisha was right there.. and to me.. her keeping her lips seeled and making up "what ifs" about that night, only leads me to believe that she has to ATLEAST know that Justin is not telling the truth. I too, think at the very least she is lying for her family. Was she involved in Ayla's death or just the cover up, that is the question. I gave her credit for being at the walk, just cause it had to take nerve.. but if she did it, just to be part of the investigation (as we see on criminal minds and shows like that) she could have been even more involved than we all think. I'm no expert, but the experts are watching.. and the ones that are covering for the guilty are going to go down with the rest of them if they do not act soon and start telling the truth!

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    2. Kit, I think that Justin is smug enough(comments like if LE had anything, I wouldn't be standing here) that he views this as a game and doesn't care what LE thinks or what the public thinks, Phoebe and Elisha both have make comments that are almost taunting the police. He is confident that he will get away with this and so even if Elisha did it, he is culpable for not telling the truth, I also think that even though what happened to Ayla could have happened while Elisha was watching her, it was only a matter of time before Justin inflicted the same harm. I don't think Ayla was given a lot of love or affection there, hence the pulled leg muscle, bruises, and broken arm.

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    3. I def. agree with that J4A!

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  16. I just had a thought- I am going to throw it out there to see what you guys think.. if Justin told LE that Ayla was in Pheobe's room and that is NOT where she normally sleeps, wouldn't LE be able to tell by the lack of evidence if Ayla was really there that night or not? Even if it was a dripple of drool or a spot of pee from a leaky diaper or sweat. I know when my nephew sleeps on my moms bed, all of this is usually there. Maybe that is even more evidence that the DIPS are not telling the truth about that night?

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    1. PB, I've been wondering that right along, about wherever she supposedly slept.

      Thanks for bringing it up!

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    2. I have been thinking that too. If Ayla has been gone since before 12/17 than she didn't sleep in any bed in any bedroom. They just had to make up a story about where she slept and that story seems to be changing. Keep talking Dips, the truth will be slipped out and I can't wait

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    3. I'm still very curious too about the loud noise that was heard that night from the neighbor and got her dog barking. Does anyone know what that noise was? We're the police called about that loud noise? Who was in the car that showed up in the middle of the night. Everyone in the house had to have heard that noise, enough with the bullshit that they were sleeping. If the neighbors dog was barking and there was a loud noise, the people in the house heard it, the house is tiny, come on. we're they trying to stage all of that to look like an abduction because Ayla was already gone.

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    4. I thought she was sleeping in the "shared room" that night but usu. slept downstairs. Wherever she was, it might not matter in terms of forensics leading back to her because she could be put down for naps in places other than her bed and could be playing or interacting with family members on their beds, so her DNA could be anywhere.

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    5. Yes, her DNA could be anywhere. In regards to the beds though, would there be any dna that could be dated? Is there any way at all, to tell if she really slept in ANY of the beds that night?

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  17. OK, this is what I come up with- Something does happen to Ayla on the 16th, only her and Justin are home, so Justin puts her in the shed and when Elisha comes home and Courtney gets there from Portland, he tells them that Ayla is sleeping in Pheobe's room. Neither had any reason to doubt it and no reason to go in there and discover that she is really NOT there. They all go to bed and Elisha wakes up to find that Ayla is not there...
    1) Why not tell LE and the public this?
    2) What not PASS the Lie Detector Test?
    3) Why did LE state that all THREE are not telling the truth?
    4) Why does Elisha and Courtney start to question if Ayla was not there in the first place?
    5) Why make up stories on what "could" have happened?
    6) Why get a lawyer?
    7) Why not get in front of every camera and help find Ayla?
    8) Why keep Gabby and Ayden in a position that they could be around a murderer?
    9) Why are they not questioning Ayla's blood being in the basement?
    10) Why laugh at Trista in Portland, if you really believe that Ayla was kidnapped?
    11) Why be soo afraid to just talk and get your name cleared?
    Why Why Why Why.. I could go on forever.
    So I say again.. at the very least Elisha is covering for Justin or Courtney, why?

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    1. That's possible, but then he'd have to sneak out, after making sure they were asleep (to move Ayla), then sneak back in before they woke up.

      I agree with all your questions. Regarding #11, that is really strange. I wouldn't be laughing at someone, who I thought possibly came in the home I was sleeping in, and kidnapped my "like a daughter".

      I'm really thinking it had to have been a different day. He/they needed time to remove Ayla, clean up, get their story straight, plan the cover up, carry out the cover up. If it was really that night, where the heck is Ayla? They figured out how to "get rid of her" THAT quickly and "perfectly"? I think they must have had, at least a couple of days to do all this. JMO

      I wonder if they were all showered and dressed (waiting for LE to arrive), or if they were still in their pajamas/sweats (whatever they sleep in)? According to AH, not that her story is believable anyway, Elisha was the only adult up and about, doing her morning routine...

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    2. and then she changed it to Courtney finding her gone, and now it is that ED found her gone, and told Courtney who was upstairs, who then rushed down the stairs to alert JD, who ran up the stairs busting the baby gate...

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    3. Forever CuriousMay 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

      Good point about the pjs.

      PB- interesting points. Two things that work against the scenario as a whole (though parts of it could be valid) are the LIP and Phoebe's "coincidental" absence from the house that particular night. What are the odds of someone making the unusual decision to buy an LIP on a baby with a pattern of increasingly violent injuries and having her go missing 8 weeks later? What are the odds of a woman who usually sleeps at home in her house with her kids and grandkids suddenly deciding to go on a local sleepover and one of her grandchildren getting abducted that night? What are the odds of both these things happening with respect to the same night?

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    4. Forever CuriousMay 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

      * I meant go missing innocently

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    5. Emerald, it changed BACK to Elisha? Wow, I can't keep track... I knew it was Elisha, then "clarified"/changed to courtney. I didn't know it changed again. Do they really wonder why people speculate so much?

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    6. Forever, I've always wondered about Phoebe's sleep over too. How often did she sleep elsewhere, all night? Where was she, anyway?! Such a big secret...

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  18. "Elisha hired an attorney early on, friends and family of Elisha have stated she retained an attorney as a liaison to the media..."

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    I'd have to assume that to be another lie. Where was her lawyer during her last interview?

    The thing with these lie's though, they are 99% coming NOT directly from the DiPietro's. They are coming from "supporters", "defenders", "friends". Why?? Is that how the DiPietro's want it, so they can claim, no involvement, in such lies? Or are these people taking it on themselves, to foolishly keep saying these things? Things that may or may not be true, but not caring that they and the DiPietro's look like liars and/or foolish?

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  19. It's been a while, but hard to forget... Didn't AH clearly state that Elisha - ummm, no, no - courtney, go into the room that the girls SHARE and find her "missing"?

    This whole BS story makes less sense, the more you think about it!

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    1. That whole story from AH didn't make sense, in one version it said Elisha removed the baby gate or Courtney did and then right afterwards said Justin crashed through the baby gate that was always there. I certainly believe LE more than I believe them and why would there be a toddler bed and crib in Gabby/Ayla's room and not in the basement if Ayla usually slept in the basement? Also Selena said there was cat urine all over the basement from when they were locked down there, you can never remove the smell of cat urine and just imagine how it smelled down there when it was damp, what a place for a toddler? Also probably dangerous since there was probably mold down there.

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    2. With the furnace being down there and maybe a woodstove, I would hope they had a CO 2 sensor, something tells me they did not.
      A basement is no place for a child to be sleeping in.

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    3. That's true J4A and Chicky.

      With Ayla's bed being in Gabby's room, plus the repeated mention that the girls shared a room, plus LE's statements, I think it is logical to deduce that, #1, Ayla normally slept in that room, therefore, #2, she logically had to have been "sleeping" in Phoebe's room.

      The claim of Ayla normally sleeping in the basement came from an Anonymous, who REALLY appeared to be Selena, because it was directly after she stated how soundproof the basement is, then sheepishly dropped out of the conversation. The claim/question of maybe Phoebe and Elisha get up with Ayla at night, IF she gets up, came from someone else who actually knows nothing and no one from the case (they stated that).

      Until Justin, Elisha, court and/or Phoebe come out and personally say where exactly Ayla normally slept and where she was sleeping that night, I'm going with logic.

      Besides the fact, it most likely did not happen that night anyway.

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    4. Forever CuriousMay 9, 2012 at 1:05 PM

      The toddler bed could have been mainly used for naps. It's possible that was intended as Ayla's bed but it was not where she slept. Lots of people co-sleep whether for philosophical reasons or for convenience. Maybe Justin didn't like getting up in the night and coming upstairs and maybe Li didn't want to be responsible for 2 babies every night. I read the reports to say A. was "abducted" from the shared room but the shared room was not where she normally slept.

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    5. I just have a really hard time imagining Justin sleeping in bed with Ayla. What about when court was there? Where did Ayla sleep when Justin stayed out all night? Selena and defenders already put that responsibility on Li and Phoebe, after confessing that the basement is basically soundproof. They keep giving conflicting stories about pretty much everything, and Justin says nothing.

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    6. I understand co-sleeping, my daughter shares my bed with me on many nights when it is easier to get her to fall asleep lying in bed with me. Sometimes I will carry her to her bed but most times I am too tired and will make Anthony sleep in the living room while she gets his side of the bed but I would think that a 20 month old would be sleeping through the night and there would not be a need to get up with her. A diaper change at bedtime and a drink before bed should be sufficient and I change my daughter's diaper in the morning when she gets up not in the middle of the night and she has never wet through or even woken up n the middle of the night because she was wet and uncomfortable. I would think that Elisha had a schedule for Gabby and in the 2 months Ayla was there, she would have gotten used to the same schedule.

      Regardless of where she was sleeping and where she normally slept, it is just one more case of the child was coincidentally taken when they were sleeping in a bed they normally did not sleep in, a huge RED FLAG there to me. How many other missing children's cases have the same claims by the parents? Too many

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    7. I agree with that J4A! I think too, that there is too much mention of a toddler needing diaper changes, bottle refills, etc. At 20 months, my granddaughter was sleeping through the night and all that was needed was periodic checks or the monitor turned on. Where was the monitor? If court thought of Ayla as one of her own (NOT), why did she not check on Ayla but yet she had "her own" in bed with her? Too many changing stories to believe any! LE knows where and when Ayla was harmed.

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  20. I am so, so sorry to hear that. I have been dealing with endometriosis for a few years and abnormal pap tests. I return every 6 months to make sure cancer hasn't developed.

    I hope everything goes well!

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    1. Thanks Jenn,
      I know how painful endometriosis can be, I have deep scarring in my fallopian tubes from either endometriosis or the cancer, most likely endometriosis and it has left me infertile. I was actually told by my doctor that she would never believe I gave birth to my youngest if she hadn't delivered her herself. :)

      Make sure you stay on top of your visits and don't miss one, I did thinking I would be fine and now I am in this situation.

      Thanks for all the work you do on your blog!

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  21. Tori i wish you all the best with your surgery! I would really like your address to help you out!!! All of you at J4A have done a fantastic job on this blog!
    I would make a suggestion to Elisha to maybe go back and review what few interviews her brother Justin has made to the public. What im saying is Elisha had no problem saying "WE did nothing wrong" probably meaning herself, justin and roberts,..but Justin doesnt have a problem using "I" "I did not harm my daughter" "IN the end you will see it wasnt ME" He has been setting the other two up all along by only speaking for himself..he will turn on Elisha and roberts. Elisha needs to understand that..Remember there is no I in team!!!!
    Elisha where is Ayla???

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    1. Where does the life insurance policy, purchased three weeks prior to Ayla going missing fit in?
      Justin is involved.

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    2. Tori - my prayers are with you doll!!!!!
      You're one strong lady!
      What's your favorite kind of chocolate candy???

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    3. I still have a question. Why haven't we seen ANY pictures with Elisha & Ayla together???

      Just one picture of a "proud aunt" interacting with her niece?????

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    4. I totally agree that Justin has put into motion many scenarios to include everyone that was in the house and even the Tudellas to take the fall, there are many players here and he has set it up perfectly to involve everyone, I believe he is quite the manipulator and knows what he is doing, look how many supporters he has, give me a break, he knows he had to involve all of these people so he is not going to be the only one going down for this. I believe that is why this investigation is taking so long because there are so many people involved here. Many puzzle pieces to be put together and once that last puzzle piece fits, thats it..game over for all included. They will need a bus to transport them all.

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    5. i'll drive em' to jail no problem. How many dips can you squeeze into a beetle bug car?

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    6. My favorite are tootsie rolls or tootsie pops :)

      Thanks Robin I appreciate the offer but I was only joking, well half joking. :)

      You guys are all amazing and I am so glad I started this blog and got the chance to meet all of you. :)

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    7. I would like your address girl!! I will send you some goodies!! What about m&m's..do you like those also???
      :)

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  22. One more thing, is there a wood burning stove in the basement of their house on violette ave?

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    1. IDK, Sunshine!
      Selena has recently been saying that Justin told her "Ayla scraped her foot on a HEARTH", and this is why her blood is in the basement.

      First of all, who has a fireplace OR woodstove in their BASEMENT??

      And, if said "hearth" is NOT located in the basement...why would anyone bring their bleeding baby down TO the basement, prior to cleaning and bandaging their wound???
      :/

      The whole explanation makes no sense. At all.
      JMO/MOO

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    2. My parents had a woodstove /hearth in their basement for all the years I was growing up in Maine.

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    3. I have had a wood stove here with a brick hearth for twenty two years and no one had ever cut or scraped any part of their body on it.

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    4. I think alot of people here in Maine probably have a woodstove in their basement. I know my parents did for the longest time while I was growing up. It has since been replaced with a Monitor heater.

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    5. IM sure DHHS made sure all was safe in the cellar for Ayla to play and sleep in..NOT

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  23. A cut on Aylas foot from a. "hearth" was mentioned as yet another reason for the blood in the basement. So wheather it was a heart to a fireplace or hearth under a wood stove is another question that has not been answered as far as I know.

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    1. If we are to believe the whole "cut foot on a hearth" scenario in the first place. And is the hearth in the basement where the blood was even found? If not, why was there no blood drops found on the way "down" in the house. More importantly, why didn't the luminol show as much blood over at the hearth?

      Lie, after lie, after lie.

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    2. Ooops!
      Sorry, Chicky...
      I hadn't seen your comment here, when I wrote the reply to Sunshine, above!
      I guess we must think alike...
      (My condolences!!)
      ;)

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    3. Ha Ha VTLady!!! I will say that it is fairly common to have a wood stove in the basement. I know lots of people who's houses are set up this way.
      It keeps the mess of wood chips etc out of the main part of the house, but with anyone sleeping down there they shouls have a CO2 detector or they are nuts! Comments?

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    4. @Bride:

      Yeah:
      "Lie, after lie, after lie.."

      And, the fact that EVERY lie told is as implausible and/or contradictory as the one before it, tells me that the DiPs strategy has to be:
      "Lie FIRST, figure out the details LATER."

      Q: How's that strategy been working out for you guys, with LE??

      A: It hasn't. And, you KNOW it. That's why you haven't been TALKING to, or COOPERATING with LE. Since January!!

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    5. Well..I guess if people DO keep wood burning stoves in their basement, his story becomes (a tad) more likely.

      Seems like kind of a dangerous set-up, to me, though.
      CO detector or not!

      I mean: if a "HEARTH" is involved, it must be one of the older-style wood burning stoves, where you physically feed it split wood.
      They're not like the new sealed-system, controlled-burn, pellet stoves.
      You gotta watch those things!

      To me this would be more dangerous (by FAR!) than having a bunch of unattended candles burning, or turning your stove and range on, and leaving things cooking while you go out to tbe store...and WHO DOES THAT??
      :/

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    6. Do they have fireplace tools down there (IDK if there is a correct term)? Are any missing...?

      (probably unlikely, just a thought)

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    7. There are wood stoves then there are pellet stoves (they are automatically fed wood pellets) A wood stove requires (or should) a fireproof surface under it such as brick, and behind it with no close walls on either side.
      Wood stoves can be filled and left unattended. Some people install metal gates around a wood stove when there are children in the home.
      If Selena discribes a ,"hearth" as being bricks under a furnace, or woodstove, or fireplace, it's no place for a child to be playing.
      Even when a wood stove is not burning you teach children to STAY AWAY regardless.
      The other story for the, "cut" was a scrape to Aylas ankle playing on the stairs... Geeze, take her out sledding or something, seems their choices of play areas are nuts!

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  24. Suggestion for Justins next tee shirt :
    "I smoked a poly..its burned into my brain"

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    1. OR : I smoke SO MUCH! ...I've even smoked a polygragh! Lol

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    2. That's hilarious

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    3. "You are not her parent"

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    4. Great ideas!!!! Here's a thought. Remember Sargeant Shultz from that old TV show called Hogan's Hero's? A picture of him on the front and JDip on the back with the slogan:

      I know NOTHING. I see Nothing.

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    5. I had some more pics made up today with the sayings mentioned up above :)

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    6. I always liked the prove it statement. " I will not make any accusations or insinuations toward anyone until the police have been able to prove who’s responsible." Now does that sound like the innocent father of a missing baby or more like a challenge?

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  25. "Anybody got a watch, I need to check and see if it's the right time"

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    1. "Ahhh... Ummm... Errrr... She's my daughter...?"

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    2. Awesome quotes, Chicky and Kit!!
      :D

      And lets don't forget one of MY personal favorites:

      "Ayla probably thinks this is some sort kind of a game. What? I'm just sayin...SHE ADAPTS REAL WELL."

      And, of course, the Classic:

      "I let a gang of baby thugs beat Ayla about the head and neck, in the nonexistent ball-pit, at our local Chuck-E-Cheese restaurant!"

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    3. To Justin: Who adapts to being murdered at 20 months old and discarded like trash?! NO ONE not even Ayla who was worth $25,000 to you

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    4. I agree Kit, there'd be no need to cover up for a child..especially kids Gabby and Aiden's age - toddlers. I'm pretty sure a toddler would never be held accountable for an accident or for pushing another toddler no matter what the result.

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  26. This is probably not a very original thought, but I have always wondered why the adults would hide an accident. Why would they lie and cover up for each other? It doesn't add up. Then I wondered.

    What if an accident did happen, but it happened while the adults were not looking. Let's say Gabby and/or Aiden and Ayla were playing by the stairs to the basement, with the baby gate on. Perhaps Gabby and/or Aiden pushed Ayla and her body weigh broke the baby gate and she fell down the stairs and onto the basement floor (perhaps smacking her head). Surely the adults would cover up for a child? Who could be so important to protect other than Ayla? Perhaps one of the other children? Just a theory.

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    1. There wouldn't be a need to cover up for a child. Especially if it was a push, maybe if it was something really horrible, like a weapon or something that the kids go a hold of.

      I think the only reason to cover up a true accident would be if ALL the adults were drunk/drugged. Even just the fact that her arm was recently broken and someone might not believe it was an accident, is really pushing it.

      She obviously lost a decent amount of blood, that needed medical attention. I can't imagine someone denying her medical treatment unless it wasn't an accident or they were too "messed up".

      It IS possible it was an accident. I hope it was. As time goes by, I'm believing that less and less though.

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    2. Yeah..but even if all the adults involved WERE drunk and/or drugged "that night"...
      as long as no one knew about it/had "proof", why not just come clean a few days LATER about what happened, and simply LEAVE OUT the part about being inebriated at the time??
      How could LE prove they were high or drunk at the particular time the "accident" occurred, a few days later?

      It would be much better than going down for the case the state is CURRENTLY building against them which is (most LIKELY) first-degree, pre-meditated murder with the aggravating factor of profit by financial gain!
      JMO/MOO

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    3. VT lady...hair test, combined with blood test = busted!

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    4. If Ayla was beyond the help of medical treatment, a few days later - that would be a big reason. They might feel better taking their chances of never getting caught, rather than come clean. If Ayla was already gone, why bother getting in trouble for not helping her, not getting her medical treatment, covering it up and doing God knows what with her.

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    5. I just don't believe a loving parent would not seek medical attention for their child if there was an accident, even if they were negligent in some way. You would take the consequences rather than see your child die. That's just my honest opinion. I don't think this was an accident. . .not with the prior signs of abuse and not with that LIP. I think the whole custody grab and the LIP points to premeditation. I think this was an evil and sinister plot that had probably been planned out months in advance. Sad, but that's what I think.

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  27. well good luck with surgery and i hope everything goes well. This is my favorite blog about ayla to read. I was reading others when this case started but now i stopped because it became vicous and ugly for the families. Get some well needed rest after

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    1. Forever CuriousMay 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM

      Anon 12:55, if the blood was by Justin's bed and not by the stairs, it's not so likely she fell down the stairs
      also a push from a baby is unlikely to send her flying with enough force to inflict fatal injury
      If someone "accidentally" hurt Ayla, all indications are it was an adult acting in a violent rage

      I wonder if the sensitivity to the baby gate story is their knowledge that it's a complete fiction

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    2. I agree Forever.

      I'm also thinking there is something sensitive about the "table" now too.

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    3. Thanks Ayla's Angel, I appreciate the well wishes and am happy to hear this is your favorite blog, we all put a lot of work and effort into it in hopes of getting Justice for Ayla and keeping pressure on those involved

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    4. @forever... Do we know that Justins bed wasn't by the stairs ? Not asking sarcastically just didn't know of or ever hear of the exact layout of the basement, don't recall ever seeing a photo of it either. To add also , I doubt as you stated that a push from a child could inflict a fatal injury. The fall down the stairs very well could though.

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    5. @Wrecka, I am not familiaar with the layout not seen any pictures. I do know however that the room is sound-proofed according to Selena. For me the stairs would not open into the bedroom if the room is sound-proofed. That would defeat the purpose of sound-proofing.

      I would assume the entry to the bedroom will be several feet if not dozens from the bottom of the stairs! JMO

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  28. A cut on a toddler's foot would not spill more than a cup of blood. More than a cup of blood loss in a toddler requires an immediate transport to the ER.
    These stories/ explanations/ fabrications will drive the DiPietro's defense lawyers crazy when they have to be explained under oath and on the stand.
    Keep 'Em coming.

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    1. "More than a cupful of blood" has never been confirmed by LE. They have only said it was "more than a small cut would produce". Until LE comes out and says the quantity of blood that was Ayla's, it is mere speculation and not fact.

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    2. Thank you DiPietro defense, but it will all be shaken out in court. Very soon.

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    3. Why do you care if LE confirmed a cup of blood, or didn't confirm it? You Dip Supporters say that LE is wrong and there was a kidnapping, so how can you pick and choose which statements by LE to believe? It's all or nothing, or you lose your street cred.

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    4. Forever CuriousMay 9, 2012 at 5:11 PM

      Not only what Bride said, Anon 3:50, but even if the blood is more than a small cut would produce yet not nearly a cupful (playing devil's advocate) what caused that much blood to spill? All we've heard about is a small cut or scrape and that wouldn't do it. This was a major injury no matter how you look at it, whether fatal or not, and it should be readily explainable by the caretaker. When you consider this mystery major injury AND a broken arm in the 8 weeks Ayla lived at 29 Violette, it's obviously not just your average toddler oopsie.

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    5. @"Anon":

      Q: (Given the following set of circumstances)
      WHAT HAPPENED TO AYLA??:

      Prior bruising to FACE after trip with Justin.
      Prior pulled leg muscle after trip with Justin.
      Broken ARM while in Justin's "sole custody".
      LIP taken out on her life..by JUSTIN.
      Hinky "premonitions" abduction may occur..made by JUSTIN.
      Tons of pics of her looking MISERABLE taken while she is WITH JUSTIN.
      All phone calls made by Trista to speak WITH her prevented for entire week..BY JUSTIN.
      Skipped follow-up appt with specialist while WITH JUSTIN.
      Reported "mysteriously vanished" BY JUSTIN.
      LE says a TROUBLING AMOUNT of her blood was found in JUSTIN'S BASEMENT APARTMENT.
      LE says that NO ABDUCTION occurred, despite claims made BY JUSTIN.

      A:___________________________________________

      (HINT: It involves Justin "disappearing" her and LYING about it.)

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  29. If the Dips have a wood burning stove in the basement, possibly Justin is stating some sort of truth about the blood on the hearth being aylas, terrible thought but could he have possibly burned her in the stove and dumped the ashes into the kennebec river, he did say to prove it and he smoked the lie detector, I think he is using as many truths as he can without lying and smoked it would make sense if that is what he did. It is an extremely horrible thought but it is a possibility if they have a wood burning stove. If they do have one I'm sure LE would have checked the ashes and the area surrounding the hearth

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    1. A thought to my above comment , maybe disassembling the fireplace/stove was what made the noise that night, maybe someone dropped part of it, im sure that is not light. Nothing about the dips would surprise me, if they spoke up and took an active role in finding Ayla it would be different but because they are silent it shows their guilt. How could anyone ever hurt a baby, I just don't understand, it is unfathomable

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    2. I agree that his statements might have some kind of meaning, but the smell of burning flesh is not easy to mask or to ever forget. If he had burned Ayla in the wood stove, the smell would have still been there when LE had the house. It's not something LE would have missed. It's even more pungent than decomp.

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  30. I wonder if Justin stills lives with the Tudela's. I also wonder if Roberts still comes to see him on the weekends ? And if Justin still lives with the Tudela's, i have to wonder how Mr. Tudela likes that?

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  31. Dear J4A, I send you and your family my prayers and best wishes. Get Well Soon!

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  32. The comments on this page got me re-thinking what could have happened- that they would cover it up and ALL lie for eachother. Here is another what if- .. Justin, Elisha and Courtney take advantage of MOM being gone for the night and they get all messed up on drugs and drinking.. they put ALL the kids in the basement (maybe they are sleeping on Justin's bed) so they can have freedom upstairs. After a couple hours, someone remembers that there are kids downstairs. They find that Ayla did get up, maybe it was dark and she feel off the bed, bumped her head and knocked herself out. If they had gone down sooner, she would not have lost so much blood and would have survived, but since they did not check on her, she died. They decide that neglect would case everyone to go to jail and lose their kids, so they cover it up. Since they were all there, they are all at fault, so they ALL have to lie to save their own ass. Still does not make 100% sense..

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    1. That's possible PB. There are so many possibilities! What would she have hit her head on to cause bleeding, and quite a bit of it?

      I've been wondering about SOMETHING (I'm not sure what) happening to her, while, like you said the adults were messed up, or even just not interested in what she was doing, or if they were sleeping/passed out. But, WHAT would cause such bleeding? Not just a simple fall. I can't imagine what kind of accident she could have endured, by herself, to cause the blood loss.

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    2. I was thinking that just the concrete floor, if infact it is a concrete floor. But I would think that a child simply falling off a bed is not going to hit hard enough to split her head open. And if it was, she would start screaming her head off, waking the other kids and they would have tried get to the parents... or the parents would have heard her cry. I definately doubt that a fall from a bed, even on concrete would hit hard enough to knock her out...

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    3. PB, This scenario is plausible for the day of the event (16 Dec maybe?). Not to judge, it is your scenario and I think it has alot of merit. But for me there are 2 items that do not tie in.

      Before the day of the event, how does the LIP fit in or was it just a stupid move by a guy who knew no better?
      The second would be after the event, why has Heidi jeopardize her entire family for this same Sgt Schultz wannabe?

      Can you add how these events or actions would fit into this scenario?

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    4. John, can you remove that ignorant comment below, at 9:38pm?

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    5. I'm not answering for PB. I just want to say, personally, that I think Derek plays a huge role in this! I think he was right there for his bff, to help remove Ayla, no matter what exactly happened to her.

      The LIP is a huge mystery to me. I really can not decide about that...

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    6. Kit, I am sorry you saw that before I could get in and delete it. I deleted the entire post including the posters ID. Sorry I did not act quicker.

      The LIP is a mystery to me as well. That is why I ask, I can't see jeorpardizing your family for a screw up that might me considered a no time served crime? And the same with Heidi, surely DT told her exactly how he is involved for her to cover or there IS a crazy scenario in play and we will be prove our crazy thoughts sane.

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    7. No problem John. I didn't know if anyone was available to delete, then saw that you just commented, so thought, oh thank God he can delete that! I didn't know if you saw it though. People are so rude and ignorant!!

      Yeah, there's no way, in my mind, that Heidi is so involved, over a LIP, that could potentially be explained/lied away, no matter how hinky it seems. I'm not convinced yet that she actually knows what exactly happened, just that Derek was probably with Justin, and potentially in major trouble.

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    8. John, I'm just trying to figure out why everyone feels they need to lie for Justin... and trying to think up situations that they would all feel they would be responsible.. I agree the LIP would not fit, and maybe Heidi is looking at the situation as a way to get "attention". Some poeple need attention, even if that attention is negitive attention...
      Also John, don't feel bad about picking- that is why I post it, to see what others think.. and to have someone pick it apart. :)

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    10. Oops, I just notice that my comment does not agree with Kits... lol, it's late. Then it should say, I disagree Kit, I think Heidi does know exactly what happened to Ayla. :)

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    11. I see what you're trying to do PB. I can come up with lots of scenario's, but then not everything fits together. It's so frustrating, but it's nice to have someone polite to point things out and question. I wish SOMETHING would just give!

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    12. Lol PB! I'm not exactly sure yet if she knows. I'm not 100% sure that he would share with his mother, the actual 100% truth, especially if he is very involved. I can't imagine being so involved in something so horrible, and I have a good relationship with my mother, but I don't *think* I would be honest with her about involvement with something like THIS.

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    13. PB, I actually agree with both you and Kit. On the one hand, like you, I think she did not ask what happened so she could tell the truth when ask what do you think happened" She can say "IDK!" But on the other hand, both Kit and I think there is some craziness that will come out later explaining why she involved the whole family even though it was just Derek that was involved! And yet on the other hand, I have to wonder if she is as simple minded as JD to believe the excuses they spin?

      OOOPS, thats three hands. Next time I will throw in a foot somewhere.

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    14. Yes John, two hands are often not enough, in this case!

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    15. Thanks for deleting the comment John but you should have let it stay, it just goes to show how pathetic they are and if they think that comments like that make Justin look good, they are mistaken.

      I have been in the same relationship for 13 years, if that is sleeping around so be it. And for the record, neither of my kids were taken by or have ever been removed from my custody by DHHS nor are either or my kids unaccounted for nor have they ever had a broken bone, pulled leg muscles, or unexplained bruises.

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    16. Tori,

      All the regulars know that you are correct about how it makes the JD supporters look! I am with Kit though in that it was just plain ignorant and based on ZERO PERCENT FACT. It was nothing but an insult to a person who is already dealing with other life issues in an attempt to make themselves the center of attention. I wasn't going to respond and give them that attention and I couldn't in good conscience leave it, for more of the ignorant to add to. :D

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    17. Kit,

      I am now taking my shoes off so I can use toes to keep track of all the players in this case. It is amazing and mind boggling at the same time how many Ayla supporters there really are. Then it is just mind boggling the number of people in covering-up and twisting the facts to support a person that is at the least guilty of not being human. You have to have a heart to be human Justin!

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    18. I do agree J4A, it does show how pathetic they are.

      As for your 2nd paragraph, you don't need to explain yourself to anyone here. Everyone knows "who you are", where your heart it! It is plainly obvious. I have NO IDEA, how anything at all, about you, has to do with Ayla anyway.

      It shows how much, whoever keeps posting such ignorant things, do not want justice for Ayla.

      Once again, if Justin or any DiPietro's do not like people speculating, they should speak for themselves, and stop hiding behind others.

      The only thing I HAVE seen them speak up about, has been to claim how incompetent LE is. Justin, Phoebe AND Elisha have now all spoke against LE. That is real brilliant!

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    19. *where your heart IS*, Sorry for the typo.

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  33. Does anyone know or understand the significance, of all these parents (not just the DiPietro's), who claim their child was sleeping in a different room, bed, sleeping arrangement etc., when reporting them "kidnapped"? What is the point? Does anyone know or understand this? To me, it seems less likely for a child to get kidnapped, if not in their normal sleeping arrangement. Does anyone have any ideas on why the parent(s) does this?

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    1. My thought are that if they were sleeping in their normal beds, it would have been harder for the "kidnapper" to get in and out without someone hearing them.. but this is just a guess..

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    2. That makes sense. It's better than what I could come up with, which was nothing, lol.

      Well... Maybe the parents are trying to divert attention from wherever *something* actually did happen, not understanding that LE is going to investigate the ENTIRE home?

      The parents come up with these "kidnapping" ideas, but don't seem to think them through fully. But then again, they have all, sadly, been getting away with it. I really wish there was something legally, that could be done about this! Not even only Ayla's case. It seems like the new "thing to do". Sick of your kids? Pretend they were kidnapped! :(

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    3. I take the reported sleeping arrangements to be fake with a capital F, designed to deflect police attention from the real crime scene.

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    4. I can't believe how much the state tuition assistance is wasting the states money if the people in the house honestly thought LE would stay only in the room they were told. I shows why the clean-up was done so sloppily as well!

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    5. I agree with Kit that it would seem more unlikely to me that if this were a kidnapping with the changed sleeping arrangements. You would think that if someone were going to kidnap a child they might stake the place out a bit first have an idea of where they are snatching from. I doubt someone just going to a random window to take a child is likely. I also agree with the above that the bedroom upstairs story is just to distract attention from the real location of what ever incident took place.

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  34. I remembered something today, that I was thinking during the walk, but forgot about it. Elisha was telling another wallker that she walks a lot with Gabby and that person asked her if she walked to the Town Hall that morning. She said that she did not, her car was at Town Hall. Also, later in the walk Pheobe showed up and walked the last mile or so. I did not see if she was dropped off or if she drove there... I have asked before, and did not got an answer, but I have to ask again now I know there is atleast 1 more car owned by them, has any other car been searched by LE or was it only Courtney's and Justin's? If not, did they refuse to let LE search them? Why wouldn't LE get a warrant? Thoughts?

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    1. I don't know. I hope if there were other vehicles, that they were searched. Maybe they were, but just not publicized?

      So, was it just Elisha, then Phoebe came at the last mile? What about Justin, courtney, Lance, Heidi, Derek? Anyone else?

      Why wouldn't Justin go, for Ayla? Why was that responsibility left up to Elisha, I wonder? Phoebe made her do almost the entire thing, by herself too. I wonder if that was awkward for Elisha. I don't think I'd want to do such a thing, by myself, without the others, who were in the home that night... Plus, I think I'd be pretty upset at my brother. I wonder if that resentment is building up enough yet...

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    2. Elisha did have Gabby and a friend there with her, but NO- none of the "others" were there. Pheobe showed at 2ish.. I did not see her actually show-up, I just realized that she was there. Elisha actually looked pretty comfortable being there and people were civil toward her. I agree with you- I do not know if I would be there without the "other" either. Just adds to the wierd seperation.. Pheobe and Elisha sticking together and the Justin and Courtney fading away.. and the whole seperate Lawyer thing too.. not sure what it adds up to, but it has caught peoples attention.

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  35. If Justin rarely had Ayla, maybe it was Elisha that abused Ayla out of resentment and jealousy. Could Phoebe have talked Justin into buying the LIP? Maybe Elisha and Phoebe are the perps in this crime - thus the almost immediate hiring of an attorney for themselves. Could they have possibly told Justin and the rest Ayla died in an accident and they had to lie to protect the "family"? Would Courtney go along with this to keep her stud@#?
    Could Justin really have been caught by surprise by the luminol pictures at the police station? Would Justin then
    insist Phoebe and Elisha show for the vigils since they caused all this. Trista said Phoebe's kids all fear her. Why can't LE just arrest them all - they're all guilty of something. Disfunctional Bitches, all of them.

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    1. I can think up a possible scenario for each of them. Your idea of Phoebe talking Justin into the LIP does make sense. Supposedly he told Trista he needed Ayla's SS#, to set up some type of savings plan for Ayla, like she did for Gabby. I wonder if Gabby has a savings plan at all, if so, is it a LIP??

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  36. This is my most likely scenario. I think the "trip" where Ayla broke her arm was a possible failed attempt. I said above that I think this was a premeditated scheme. When Trista went to rehab, Justin saw an opportunity and took it. He purchased the LIP and then had to come up with a way to make it look like an accident in order to cash in.

    I don't believe the story about how Ayla broke her arm. Her injuries don't support the story. So, maybe Justin through her down and tired to make it look like he tripped while carrying her. But Justin is an idiot and didn't realize just how limber and resilient children are. So Ayla only ended up with a broken arm. He wasn't going to let that happen a second time.

    Next time the plan was to make it look like he fell down the basement stairs with her. He threw her down the stairs. He might have even been carrying her and crashed through the gate and took a little spill himself to lend credibility to the "accident." That's where his facial injuries came from. But again, Ayla didn't die, but she was severely injured. They couldn't call 911, because this fall had to be fatal. So they let Ayla bleed out on the basement floor. That took too much time and calling 911 was not an option, for fear that they would be found out. So they moved Ayla to the shed, cleaned up the basement and hatched this kidnapping story. I think it's likely this happened closer to the 8th than the 17th.

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    1. *threw. . .woops.

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    2. Do we have any evidence from anyone that Justin is a heavy drinker? I know there's a lot of talk about his drug selling or drug usage, but honestly the guy sounds to me as if he got wasted a lot and ended up harming his child on several occasions because he was just stuporous. Or else, he's a violent drunk and took swipes at Ayla in his condition a few times and "things" happened like her facial bruising, pulled leg muscle, the broken arm, and then finally the fall down the stairs.

      Or, insert Phoebe's name or Elisha's in the place of Justin's. Whatever. I feel that Phoebe WAS there when whatever happened to Ayla came down. She knows what happened. Maybe Justin and Elisha are protecting Phoebe from the consequences of her actions with Ayla. I would imagine Phoebe did the majority of the caretaking of Ayla in the evenings when she was not working. And perhaps Heidi during the day.

      I haven't as yet figured in the LIP or the reported texts to Trista where Justin felt someone was going to take Ayla.

      It seems everywhere I try to go in this case, there's a roadblock or two that doesn't fit in.

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    3. The LIP and the texts are what make me think this was premeditated. Because of those things, I just don't believe this was an accident that they decided to cover-up. Besides, who does that? If it was a true accident they would have called 911, no matter the situation.

      But who knows what really happened. I just think this is the most likely scenario.

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