Sunday, May 20, 2012

Guest Submission: PB

Phoebe, Elisha, and Lance: Think about what your inaction is doing...

Phoebe:

Look at what this is doing to your family; look at what this is doing to you. You may think that keeping Justin's secret and your suspensions to yourself is helping him, but it is only hurting everyone in the long run.  Ask yourself this question: How does this whole situation affect your nerves, your heart, your stress level, and your health? Keeping a secret of this importance is tearing you apart inside.

You cannot sleep, you cannot eat (or maybe you are over-eating); the stress alone will bring you to your grave so much earlier than you think! Then, what would Elisha do? What would Lance do? How would they go on without their mother? How about Gabby; wouldn't you like to be around for her graduation, her wedding? It cannot be easy wondering if today will be the day that each of your children are under arrest; how is that going to feel, to know that you could have said or done something to prevent Elisha going away longer than she needs to? What about Lance? Did he really know what happened, or did he find out after the fact? If LE thinks he did, he will be gone too. 

You are too old to go away with them. You will not see another day outside of concrete walls. Is that the future that you want? Is that how you see yourself living out the rest of your hard-earned life? Someone needs to stay out of jail to take care of Gabby.  Who will take care of her if you are all in jail?  Do you know that most girls are molested by their foster parents? Most foster parents are attracted to take in unwanted children hoping that they have a low self-esteem and behavioral problems that will prevent them from ever telling on their new parents, and when they do, they  try to say something and the result is usually that  their State Worker will think they are "acting out". Even more so, Foster families are attracted by the money they make off of  these kids; what if she turns out to be a ‘paycheck’ for a foster family?

Do you want to risk either of these possibilities when it comes to your precious grand baby? You are the adult; you are the parent. Instead of guiding your children to their defeat, why can’t you guide them to do what is right? Do you honestly think that they are going to get away with this? Can you live the rest of your life with this secret? Can you live another day not knowing when ALL of your children are going to jail, and poor Gabby is turned over to State custody?  You know, this can all end; all you have to do is make a call! Sure, it will still be stressful in the beginning, except now you will be able to see a light at the end of the tunnel. At night, sleep will come so much easier. It will be so much easier to inhale, it will be a release like you have never experienced before. Your heart will start beating normal again; your mind will ease out of the fog that you are in. You will be protecting Gabby from the unknown of State Foster families.  You will be protecting Justin from himself and Elisha from being beaten everyday in jail. Do you really think the girls will be friendly to her?  If you could get her sentence reduced by one day, you may be saving her life and her future. If you speak soon, maybe Elisha will be out before Gabby starts school.

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Elisha:

Look at what this is doing to your family.  Look at what this is doing to yourself and your precious little girl.  How do you think your mom is going to hold up in jail?  How about you?  How do you think that your baby girl is going to do in Foster care? If you wait until LE makes the first move, it will be too late. There will be no one on the outside to take care of Gabby. What then? Do you think Justin Linnell, her dad, will take good care of her? Does he take good care of himself? There is a reason that you do not want him around Gabby right now, isn't there? 

Maybe foster care is the best alternative. What if she goes to a family that likes beautiful baby girls a little too much?  What if she goes to a family that only sees her for a paycheck?  Do you think about these possibilities late at night? Does the fear and stress keep you awake at night?  Do you think about it SO much that you cannot stop eating? Can you eat? Have you lost weight; have you gained weight? It is not funny what stress can do to you.  What do you think it is doing to your health; your heart, for example? I'm sure that you want to live the longest life possible for Gabby.

What is she going to do when you are gone, gone for good? What about her graduation or her wedding? I'm sure you want to be there for that. How long do you think you can hold this secret before the affects are not reversible?  Maybe you think that you can handle it, but you have to know, deep down, that it’s going to destroy you and that it's out of your control.  Have you wondered what life would be like without your mom? Can you see the stress physically affecting your mom? Has she lost or gained weight? Is she crying herself to sleep at night? Your mom is older, she is weaker. Don't you want your mom at Gabby's graduation? Can you live with yourself if she dies and you know that the stress of carrying this secret stole many years from her life? Has she worked hard her whole life? What did she do to you and your brothers to deserve this? 

Do you ever wonder how life will be in jail? How do you think that will affect Gabby? Will she come to jail to visit you or will she be ashamed of you and her own family? How is that going to affect her self confidence? When Gabby does come to visit, what is she going to see? Are you going to be bruised from the girls that will not leave you alone? Is your mind going to be too fragile from the amount of times you are raped from the other girls and the prison guards?

Maybe you will not want Gabby to come see you; maybe it will just be better that way? Maybe she will not want to come and visit; maybe she is in the small percentage of children that do get good foster parents. Do you think that she will give up a loving family to come see you in jail? She is still very young; I bet in a couple years she forgets about you.  She will have a new mommy and a new daddy and she will love them.  She will get everything that you should have been there to give her.  Why would she give that away and come to visit a mother that she barely remembers, in jail?

My point is this: You know that this can all end, right? All you have to do is make a call before LE comes to make the arrests. Once that has happened, you have lost control of your life. Sure it will be stressful at first, but wouldn't it be nice to be out of jail before Gabby starts her first day of school? Maybe she will not even remember anything; maybe once you make the call, you could have the power to keep your mom out of jail to take care of Gabby while you are gone. Maybe she will never have to forget the long nights in Foster care. It will be amazing how much easier you will be able to breathe, and you will be able to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

At night, sleep will come so much easier. It will be so much easier to inhale, it will be a release like you have never experienced before. Your heart will start beating normal again; your mind will ease out of the fog that you are in. Answers will start coming instead of adding more questions.  You will not feel trapped anymore; you will, in a sense, feel free.

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Lance:

Look at what this is doing to your family.  Look at what this is doing to yourself and your future. Are you the family "protector"? Have you always been? Do they constantly look to you to help them do the many tasks that they should be doing for themselves?

You are the one that had to find out how to clean up the mess the blood left in the basement. You are the one that had to take care of Justin Linnell when he was talking trash about YOUR family.  You must have your own future planned out; you must have so many things that you have wanted to do, but because you have to take care of them, you have put your needs on the back burner.  You are the only one that has not started a family. You are the only one that has not been to college.  You are the only one that they call when they need their dirty work done or when they have dug themselves too deep in a hole; aren't you?

Now, not only are YOU facing jail time because of your sister's ex, you are facing jail time for a huge mess they all have made. How much of the story they are telling was your idea? How involved were you in Ayla's fate? It may not be as bad as you think; they may not have pushed you past the point in which you cannot turn back. 

Maybe you like your position in your family; maybe you like being the "Protector".  Can you live the rest of your life knowing that you had the power to protect the ones closest to you, and finally do something that is in your best interests too? Can you foresee the day when your whole family is in jail and then you realize that you could have helped keep them out? You know all the answers that LE wants. Are you going to be satisfied not knowing if you could have used that power to (at least) help provide Gabby one family member to bring her up? LE wants the ONE person that is responsible for Ayla's fate. The rest of your family is just frosting on the cake and they are not doing themselves any good, always taunting LE with lies.  Most importantly, you get to decide. 

Are you going to be the protector and get some of your family off the hook or are you going to finally take charge of your own life and protect yourself from a life of being held back by them?

Maybe you will save your mom and yourself. How much of this was she involved in BEFORE Justin called 911, and before she called the Maine State Police and the FBI incompetent LIARS?  They are going to come after her with no mercy. Can you honestly picture your mother in jail?  Is she going to cry every day and herself to sleep every night? She looks like she can look "tough" but I bet under that mask is someone that is going to crumble, mentally and physically as soon as they close the iron bars behind her.  Can you live the next 20-30 years without her? You have been protecting her since before you can remember.  How can you protect her when there are iron bars separating you?  Are the other girls going to like her? I bet that not many like mothers that can participate in causing harm to an innocent BABY.

How long do you think that she will live in there? The depression and stress will weaken her health and she will start to fall apart (if she hasn’t already), little by little, and soon she will not be your mother anymore.  Physically, her blood pressure will raise and her sugar levels will go crazy. Do you know that in a weakened mental state, cancer and so many other illnesses (ones that healthy bodies will fight on their own and may never come to be) will start developing? Which one do you think it will be, Cancer or heart problems? And worse of all: there will be nothing that you can do.

Maybe you would save Elisha. Would she do a better job raising her daughter than your mother would? Should she get the chance to do so? She is younger and jail would be easier on her.  Note that I said easier, not easy.  I think you are well aware that Elisha's cocky attitude is going to get her in trouble.  She will get her first beat down as soon as she shows up. Your family is infamous in Waterville and the entire State of Maine; the population of the jails ALL know who you are. Prepare yourselves. Ayla will have her vengeance; it’s called KARMA. 

I wonder how long it will be until Elisha is attacked in jail? How long until you do not recognize her anymore? During each beat down and each sexual assault, she will disconnect from her own mind until she is just a shell of who she use to be. Do you think that she will ever be the same? How can you protect her from herself? What if she is away for 10, 20 years? Thank God Gabby will be grown up by then, but her Mother will be gone forever. 

Maybe you could save the most important family member of all: Gabby. If you are ALL gone away, who would be left to bring her up?  Foster parents have many reasons that they do what they do. Some of them are actually nice people. Are you going to take the risk that she is going to get one of those other families? You are the family protector right? Maybe you can save your own butt, just so that you can save Gabby. I'm sure that she would be better off with her Uncle Lance than with a sex-offender or someone that looks at Gabby as a paycheck. Gabby is a pretty little girl; I'm sure she would attract all kinds of new "Daddies".  I mean, at the most, LE can charge you for Justin Linnell's Assault (remember when you kicked him in the face, with a BOOT?); you would be lucky if they do not charge you with Assault with a deadly weapon.  AND, they could charge you with murder, accessory after the fact!  You may be looking at 20 years yourself, but say you get 10 out in 7 after "good' time.  I mean, how much abuse can Gabby suffer in 7 years?  Look at what happened to Ayla in 2 months!

I'll ask again: Are you the protector? Have you always been? Maybe your silence is on purpose? Maybe your looking forward to the day your entire family is in jail; if you get less time, you'll have a little while when you can think for yourself. Is that what you want? I really do not think that you are a selfish person. I really do not think that you are willing to turn your back on your family. I think that you think that you are helping them right now, but think again. Remember, you have FAILED Ayla, and she is your family too.

The best way to help them may not be the easiest at first, but soon, they will be able to breath a little better and the after the stress of holding their secret vanishes, they will begin to see the light at the end of the tunnel. They will be relieved.  And once again, you will be the one that saved your family.

Do something, FINALLY, for Ayla. You would be doing a service to your “family” as well; and isn’t that your top priority? Remember to consider Ayla too.

121 comments:

  1. Don't you think they've all asked themselves these questions and gone over these scenario's in their own minds? I really hope that seeing it in text will give at least one of them the kick up the arse they need to finally offload their huge burden and take comfort knowing it will bring justice for precious Ayla.

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  2. It appears that you are trying to appeal to their human side. Unfortunately, pleas such as yours have fallen on deaf ears. There is not heart or soul inside of some people. It appears that Gabby has just been a tool to get more assistance for Elisha and not a person that is loved by her family. I think that she would get more love in the Linnell family where she belongs. If Elisha is jailed, one can hope that her father will finally be able to have a life with his daughter. Gabby can write letters to her mother, uncles and grandmother in jail. How nice for Gabby.

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    1. Yes she would be better taken care of with the Linnell family.She belongs with them.

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    2. Unfortunately I think you are correct anon 7:43, I don't think that these people have a conscience or truly know what it is to love a child.

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    3. Sorry to say
      Its not gona happen…this family is as tough as nails.. their zombies(dead)
      all through their lives they have watch each others back protected ,lied ,and covered up for each other and its not going to stop. This is very sad but in their dream world they do no wrong. everyone else’s fault. Sadly A beautiful innocent little girl got mixed up in their life…Now she’s missing WHY > .HOW > WHERE is she ? Who knows . that with this bunch of slugs secrets will go to their graves . I myself just can’I understand how there can be people out there that can be this way.sadly there are

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    4. Anon 3:33, to behonest, I hope none of them talk. I think MSP has enough evidence to convict the entire family on multiple charges and it is just an AG willing to take the chance in court. There is no doubt they will all go to jail, Gabby will be given to JL and Ayla will have Justice!!!

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    6. anon 8:37 if all you are posting is name calling and cursing with no point, it will not be tolerated! Post a valid point without profanity and name calling or don't bother!

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    7. Sorry as I was saying me(ANNON) 8:37 pm. There is innocent child GABBY!! Saying things about her mom you all need to get your own lives and I want to know how and where this site and this John character gets his info. And why you people seem to think its wrong to get insurance for a child I did years ago 40 for my child w the grandparent. My child cashed hers in at 18. And as far as state aid her parent worked most of their lives they are more untitled than a lot of people using this so called system. Look at yourselves where is your money or food stamps what are they being used for gum to get change for your drugs and alcohol. Just stating facts that people don't. Stop wishing this little girl dead. And stp wishing the worst for her cousin. Foster homes aren't the way the next ass says. I have known foster homes I would have stay in. Get your heads out of your buts and just listen to yourselves.

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    8. Anon 9:07, If you read the comments you will see every post concerning Gabby is wishing Gabby a pain free life, no ill feelings, and a joyous childhood. We feel, for the most part, that these can only be achieved if Elisha clears her conscience and makes a deal with LE to ensure this. AND NOONE IS WISHING ANY CHILD DEAD!!!! NOONE HAS EVER WISHED A CHILD DEAD!!! If you are refering to my interpretation of facts, police statements, inactions by Dipietros and Roberts, actions by Hansons and Reynolds, I have a right to my opinion!

      If you choose to ignor the fact that this policy cannot be cashed in as you did for your daughter that is your choice. I purchase one for both my children and my grandchildren. They can use the policy I purchased for college however, they don't pay out only when they pass!! Big difference between what you and I did and what JD did.
      Whos parent worked most of thier lives, not Gabbys and not Aylas, because both dads were absent dads!!
      Where is my money, strictly behind finding Ayla if you must know. I have never been on state aid and I have never fed my children with foodstamps, again not that it matters! What matters is Ayla is still missing, LE says the people in the house know more then they are saying, this post got you to speak up, and maybe the shock of reality will get one of them to speak up!
      Finally if you had taken the time to read the comments many people on this post and on this blog agree with your comments about foster care. You are not alone.
      Thank you for commenting without the profamity and name calling!

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    9. Thank you for contributing, Anon 9:07...

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    10. Kit, did you get the answer to who was watching Ayla while Justin was sleeping of his hangover when he missed Aylas appt on the 16th??

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    11. No John, never did. Probably never will either. I'd like to know who was watching her on the 15th also.

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  3. Most girls are molested by their foster parents? WTH kind of thing is that to say?
    I stopped reading right there. I find that totaly disrespectful to the many parents out there that open their homes and HEARTS to help children in need.
    I was in 2 foster homes when I was a child & teen. BOTH were very wonderful people & homes, and I was never molested.
    I still maintain a very good relationship with one of my foster family's some 20 years later.

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    1. Sorry Anon. I agree, saying MOST may not have been the correct word. Although, there are way too many cases were children are in worse hands when they go into state care. Even if it is only 10% of children that get abused, my point is, that that is way too many and more than I would take the chancs with if this was one of my boy's future we were talking about. A lot of these cases are not in the papers or on TV, but I am sorry to say, it does happen. Truely I am glad that your experience was a good one.

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    2. ImmuneToDIPtheriaMay 20, 2012 at 9:53 PM

      Although it may not exactly be accurate to say that all children are molested by their foster parents, it's still true that the number of foster households where abuse occurs is staggering. Whether verbal, physical, emotional, or sexual, it's all abuse, and it is more common in foster families than in biological or adoptive households.

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    3. I was abused, emotionally, physically, and sexually, during my two-weeks in a foster home. It happens more than most people know, and those memories scar you for life.

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    4. I'm very sorry to hear what you were forced to endure as a child, especially in just a 2 week period. Some people may want to ignore the hard facts, or maybe they really are not aware of the true horrors out there. Ignoring, not knowing, hoping they don't exist or pretending they don't exist, will not make it go away, and stop it from happening. I'm sorry for what you went through, thank you for sharing, I'm sure it is not something easy to talk about.

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    5. PB,
      From Anon 7:58 pm.
      Apology accepted. Thank you.
      It was upseting to me.
      I do agree that there is abuse in Foster care, and any amount it too much.

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    6. And some of were treated just as horribly by our own parents. Evil is everywhere.

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    7. Unfortunately, abuse isn't always reported and there is most likely more abuse than anyone knows.

      The fact is, that most people are better taken care of and loved in homes with real family members. Not to say all families are good, but most are.

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    8. Wishing a child away from its mother is wishing her harm!!!! Posting these ridicules t shirts on Justin in contradicting what this blog is suppose to be as you say BIAS. NOT FOR ONE CAMP OR OTHER. It seems by reading some of these post you are all related and know one another. I noticed as I read some- the aunt of Ayla has disappeared the same week as the child? Mom was in neighborhood when Ayla went missing as she went up to visit boyfriend. Are these true facts??? Trista was in rehab for drug addiction not just alcohol as some would have you believe ??

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    9. Do you visit Trista when you are in town? did you play with Ayla before she disappeared? Do you exchange e-mails and phone calls daily with Trista? If not then the information you claim about drug abuse can only be obtained from patient records. Are you saying you have illegally viewed Tristas medical records. Wow, I actually sound just like the E-wanna-B Obscure. Am I now related to her too? See how it feels to ask double-standard questions and get no real answers??? LE has said over and over, no kidnapping occurred! Jessica did not kidnap Ayla, Trista did not kidnap Ayla, there was no kidnapping!!!!

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    10. Annon 10:20 ~ I would not agree to wishing any child away from their mother unless that mother was abusive or neglectfull. Relaying to someone who may be taking a chance on losing their child is trying to prevent yet another tragedy.
      I'm not sure anyone said that all on this blog or the blog owner is unbiased, many are but all are free to write what they want while being asked to be as respectfull as possible. Does that allways happen? No, but it does not happen anywhere consistantly. This is am emotional topic with strong opinions.
      We are not all related but some of us have come to know one another through writing here so i can see where we could come off as familiar.
      I can't answer as to wheather or not Jessica moved or when or where but from what I know Trista was not in waterville that morning to visit Ray, he is in the Machias area. She arrived in waterville after being informed of Ayla missing.
      I'm not sure if your referance to Trista and drugs an alcohol was a question or a statement because it sounds like a statement but has question marks at the end. If like John says that you have access to records or WORK IN THE FACILITY where Trista was then your release of the info will cause your job loss. I mention this because I shared info with LE concerning someone who works there who may have a connection to a dip family menber. This is not an accusation that the person is you, I just do not understand if your words are statement or question.

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    11. Anon10:20 5/21

      RidicuLOUS is your insinuation that everyone who posts on this blog and has similar beliefs are related. Maybe YOUR camp needs to pack up and move outside of your small, small world. NOBODY here is wishing a child away from their mother- except for the Dipietro family, when they stole poor Ayla from her MOTHER!

      Trista's "boyfriend" isn't/wasn't even remotely in the same "neighborhood" as the one from which Ayla disappeared!
      Get your facts straight and check out Statement Analysis http://www.seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/baby-ayla-update-prosecution-decision.html
      (there might be some important information for you there!)

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    12. Chicly 1134 no I don't work at any rehab. I was just asking questions I actually just started reading some of this blog. I'm sorry if I made anyone uncomfortable but they are all questions that I have not seen answers to. It's hard to read all this in a day. Some questions such as the child sleeping long periods can happen. People coming into homes while others are sleeping can happen. Children getting hurt in homes do happen. They get bruised easily just by learning to walk run climb. I just want to try and keep open mind as I do hope this little girl safe and not harmed. Is that Sooo wrong. Especially for both families and extended family members.

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    13. Susp. I am not from any camp or side as you claim. I hit a nerve by asking question. We are suppose to ask question to get others talking, aren't we? Thank you for your reference. It is questions to ask even if it is questions already answered. It's how to find out info. Some off this blog is not direct info so I was trying to get to the facts. How about stuff in river last search any info on that?

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    14. That reference is just another blog. I guess I will just pray for all that this will have a different outcome. A happy one!!! Yes, For Ayla

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  4. What a horrible thing to say about foster parents! None of that is true!

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    1. Some of it is true,Molesters are everywhere,who wants to take the chance on it happening to their child,or the child being separated from their parents if they have a choice.

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    2. Oh my, well you need to read the news more.

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  5. I have to say, that was a bit harsh on foster families. Many many are truly giving and wonderful people. Not all foster stories are sad or abusive ones. Yes, there is some abuse, there is everywhere, but not to the degree that this note implies.

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  6. I can only hope that Phoebe, Elisha and/or Lance do the right thing...

    *Yes, there are LOT's of foster parents who take children in for ALL the wrong reasons. I'm sure there are SOME who do it for all the RIGHT reasons, but I def. would not want to take that chance.*

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  7. There are plenty of cases of abuse, at the hands of foster parents, readily available online. I don't feel like going to find them, and posting a bunch of links. I don't think the person who wrote this is "sick" for providing a mother with some sad, true facts. Yes there are def. loving families out there who take in foster children, that is wonderful of them to do such a heartwarming thing, for children in need.

    I think the point of the post is being lost here. I don't think that ANY parent would choose for their child to have to go to a foster home, and hope for the best. Hope their child happens to get one of the good homes/families.

    That is something that Elisha really needs to think about. It is a reality. It's not sick to point out the facts. JMO

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    1. I'm sure there are good foster families, but I did not get placed in that type of home. I spent two weeks in the house of horrors! My story is beyond heartbreaking. I am the poster child for what not to do to a foster child.

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    2. I am so sorry to hear that Navy Wife!

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    3. I am truly sorry to hear that Jo, it is not a life for anyone and the scars last a lifetime. I agree that there are many loving, wonderful parents that foster children out of the goodness of their hearts and then there are some who do it for the paycheck and the free child labor and worse. It is sad. It is sad that some parents do these things to their biological children or stepchildren. Evil is everywhere but I think PB's point was that if your child goes into foster care it is an unknown and you lose control over keeping your child safe.

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    4. Thank you, Ladies.

      I discovered that I was one of many, many FC's who were abused while in Foster care. I was a paycheck. I was a servant to their every whim. I was a fun new toy to play with, too.

      Yes, it does happen..... Very often!

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  8. Yes, there ARE many "good foster parents" out there..

    Lets be honest, though, PB is right:

    There's also ones that prey on vulnerable children, or are in it SOLELY for the state-aid check!
    To believe OTHERWISE, would be extremely naiive.

    These ARE possibilities that the DiPietros should be fearful of on behalf of Gabby, if they have NOT considered them before!!
    What STRANGER would anyone trust to care for their child as much as they do??
    It's a gamble...WHY take the risk?
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    1. Well said VTLady. WHO would want to take that risk? Especially if it is something that could potentially be avoided. NO stranger will ever care for your child, as you do (assuming "you" care for your child). This is something that Elisha really needs to think about.

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    2. And that is exactly the point isn't it!!!!

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  9. Look, if you disagree with a post, then disagree with it. Calling the poster names, or posting anonymous comments saying it "sucks" in neither mature nor effective and will not be tolerated. State your case or move along. Sorry, folks, back to your regularly scheduled commenting!

    Have a great night!

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    1. Thank you Grace. My post has hit a nerve, much like I thought it would. I'm just hoping that if it reaches the DIP family that it hits a nerve there too. It is really sick what happens in some foster families and to woman and men in jail. Some people are in denial that this crap happens, but it does. I have heard the horror stories from real life people.. and it is very sick. It would take a very sick person to make all this up,if that is what they think I did, but all they have to do is a simple google search and see for themselves. I should not have said "Most"... but it is way too many. People can say what they want.. make whatever insulting comments, but I am not going to take them to heart.

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    2. Not a nerve so much as I thought it was in very poor taste.

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    3. Well, I guess it fits right in here since most everything I write is said to be in bad taste. :(

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  10. I am not a "foster" parent, the kids I take in are all outside of the DHS network, mostly because they are over 18, hence they don't fit anywhere else, but, I would venture to say most get into because they have a heart for kids. The lack of support and ease of manipulating the system however makes the foster care industry easy pickings for those so inclined. Nuff said from me anyway!!!!

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    1. "I would venture to say most get into because they have a heart for kids. The lack of support and ease of manipulating the system however makes the foster care industry easy pickings for those so inclined."
      Nicely said...I agree.

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    2. Grace, even though you are not a "foster" parent, I assume you've probably heard, from the kids that you take in, both great stories and horror stories of previous foster parents.

      Do you think it is "sick" or wrong, in any way, to warn a mother of the risks involved, if her child is forced to enter "the system"?

      Besides the obvious risks, that PB pointed out, there are emotional risks, even if a child ends up in a great, loving home. I assume it must be horribly upsetting for a child to be forced into the "unknown", away from their mother/family. If the family is truly loving, then the child is most likely better off, in the long run, but it must be so emotionally upsetting and confusing nonetheless.

      I'm not speaking ONLY of Gabby, just in general.

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    3. Kit, I would not want any child I know or love to be in any foster care system, which is partly why I prefer to work outside of that system. My kids are placed here because someone who cares wants them to be in a safe environment, or they have been kicked out of their own or foster care homes because they turned 18.

      I think a lot of of foster care families start out that way taking in family members and becoming foster parents so they can financially do that. Problem is it becomes the way they make money, and the care of the child becomes secondary, or the original children have moved on and now they are taking care of complete strangers.

      Everyone hopes if it happens to them the "system" will work for them and not against them, but who really wants to take that risk with your own kid? Not I!

      My own daughters were taken out of daycare and taken to a safehouse for an entire 24 hours because of a false sexual abuse report made against a family member to CPS. I could not regain physical custody of my girls until we got in front of a judge and I could prove either the abuse didn't happen or that I could protect them. They were returned to me immediately after the hearing, and even though this was amost 25 years ago, they still remember it as a traumatic event. My youngest remembers "they took my blankie and wouldn't let me suck my thumb". They were not hurt or molested either before (false report) or during their brief stay, but they were harmed by the fact they were taken by strangers to a strange place and didn't understand why. (The darlings were 3 and 7 at the time, poor babies! It was traumatic for me as well!)

      So, to answer your question, yes, I think everyone should be warned not only of their rights, but of the consequences for any of their actions, including prison or foster care.

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    4. Thank you Grace, for your response. I'm sorry you and your girls had to go through such an ordeal. Just 24 hours - stuck in their memories forever... I am glad it was quickly rectified, and the girls were not harmed, physically, and all turned out well, in the end. Thank you for sharing.

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    5. Yes Kit, we all learned quite a bit about the power of CPS and DHS from that one little run-in. Even though they interviewed the girls after they took them from day-care, and the girls did not reveal any abuse, I still had no rights to them until we all saw the judge. The family member accused was not part of my family but my ex's and had no access to the kids but they were taken for "safety".

      You always want to hope the system is there to protect and work for you, until you are stuck in the middle of it.

      It is all over now but a few bad memories. The blankie and the thumb were returned to us unharmed! LOL

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    6. Grace, if they were so insensitive to your girls in such a short period of time imagine what happens over a long period of time. Hearing that her blankie was taken away, and she could not suck her thumb, makes me want to whack that person!!!! Control and downright meaness to a couple of sweet little girls!!

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  11. So the Anons are saying that Elisha in Prison and her baby in Foster Home is better for Gabby. Give me a break. So many kids have died in foster care. And, most women who go to prison lose their kids to adoption through the foster system. So, the Anons are wishing a horrible fate for Elisha. But OK, bash anyone who tries to help these people, by telling them the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!

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    1. All I know is that Baby depends on Elisha and she has let her down.And now She has to go to school with everyone thinking that her Mom is lying about a missing child ,that will never leave Gabbys life,she will hear people in school talking about it,asking her questions.She will suffer more than any of the adults in that family can imagine.Wondering if her family hid her cousin.All these children will have to live with what they have done.Give these children a good life,Put Gabby and Ayla first. Teach them to tell the truth! These children are watching you!Be an example for them.

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    2. Suz,

      I think, for a LOT of the trolls (esp. the ones who are huge fans of the Pink Blog) it isn't even ABOUT "supporting the DiPs" or "bashing the Reynolds" per se...
      And, bashing this post certainly isn't about their views regarding the U.S. Foster Care System!

      To THEM, this blogsite represents the general opinion of "the masses".
      They're gonna find something to argue against on EVERY blogpost here, regardless of it's content, just so they can pretend they "think for themselves".

      They get off on adopting a contrarian view-point SIMPLY for the sake of doing so...
      It makes them feel like "free thinkers" or "unique", to side with the few as opposed to the many.

      Problem being, blindly adopting the opposing view-point...means that you're STILL basing your opinion on what other people DO or DO NOT think!!
      How is that "thinking for yourself"??
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    3. Oh yessss.

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  12. I do not know Elisha but from the video of her speaking to her daughter and the little info that has been made public, I don't think she is the bad mother portrayed in the anon comments. She may be shortsighted or overwhelmed by the Ayla situation, but who can point to any evidence she doesn't love or care for Gabby? It's really not right to insinuate such a thing without a strong, verifiable fact basis- and remember Gabby will grow up and learn to read soon enough.

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    1. If she is not lying she would be a good Mom,if she is and LE said 3 people are not telling the truth,then she is not a good Mom,she is hurting her daughter and protecting adults,Your child needs come first.We will see if she tells the truth I would support her.Im not saying it would be easy,or that she is not scared,but she has to do it for Gabby.

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    2. Assuming that Elisha DOES love Gabby, IS a good mother, and has information regarding Ayla, she really needs to think about and take into consideration those realities and possibilities, in the post. If it was really thought that she is EVIL, there would be no point in trying to reason with her.

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    3. How do you think Gabby will feel when she grows up and reads all of this? Especially the part where she woke up, woke her mother up, and her mother did nothing while her cousin was murdered? Except of course snuggle more with her.

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    4. ITA Kit, I would would never put my children anything but first. Idc who it may be as long as their an adult their responsible for themselves and putting your childrens futures at risk for the sake of someone else is absurd. Id tell on my mom, my fiance, my sister dont really matter who if it could effect my babies because they are helpless innocents. Any thinking adult should be ready to be held accountable for their actions.

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    5. Anon 10:10 to say that anyone who makes a bad judgment is a bad mother means there are no good mothers. I agree Elisha should speak out and would be a better person and better mother for doing so, but I don't think you can deny all the good in her based on this singular situation, esp. since we don't even know how much she is withholding or how significant it is.

      Kit, I agree with you that Elisha should consider how her silence does and will hurt Gabby.

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    6. I would have felt better about elisha if she had been straight forward with her answer about the poly test.

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    7. Yes Chicky, honesty goes a long way.

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    8. Just saying . passably Gabby has seen/ overheard conversations in
      That house .one wonders what may haunt this little girl as she
      Grows up. Children are like little sponges soak up everything around them
      May not surface now but it will.and the beat goes on .

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  13. Please who ever knows what happened to Ayla,Do the right thing.Its not to late. If you cared about her at all call LE.Show her how much you love her.Bring her Home.Please.

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  14. I guess it is time for me to find something better to do with my time. Thanks for the good posts when you first started your blog Tori. Wishing you all well and praying for Ayla daily.

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  15. I wish the individuals that have the knowledge to end this would be moved by your post, but I don't think they will. It saddens me to think that this many people, the dipietros, Tudelas, Roberts, don't know the unique love of what being a real family feels like. The love of protection and security as a child, the love from a parent when you are punished for misbehavior because they realize that when you treat people with respect you in turn will be respected, the love you receive when they give you chores or help you find a job because they want you to know the feeling of pride and accomplishment, the love you receive when you fall down or get your heart broken or just need arms around you. The love of letting you go to spread your wings, to succeed and fail, to become you. Real family love doesn't ask for you to sacrifice yourself, your values. Real family love does not sacrifice any member for another. Real family love walks with you to the door, gives you a big squeeze, and watches you go in to take responsibility for your actions. Real family love is there even when you think it isn't.

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  16. I agree Ikoyoda,That reminds me of something I said to my sister,It would be hard to turn in someone in my family,but I would have to do it,she said If they harmed a child I would turn them in in a second,I said I love you too,and I meant it.I respected her so much for that.I love my family,because I can respect them.They wont lie for me and I wont lie for them.

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  17. Myself and 6 other siblings were placed in foster homes and I can say that there are many unpleasant memories for each and every one of us unfortunately.
    There were some in it for the paycheck and an extra hand for work. Others were from the kind heart of a father who's wife was left caring for the child and was resentfull. etc. etc.
    There was sexual abuse in two cases and emotional neglect in all cases.
    I know there are wonderfull homes out there that do it for the right reasons but unfortunately that was not the case with us.
    Some of these homes were less safe, less supportive, less caring by far than where we were taken from.

    The whole experience was incredibly painfull for all of us and will remain forever that way.

    The fact of being separated from out family and one another was like the death of many people at once and that will NEVER go away.
    DHS was not helpfull or cooperative in setting up visits so we could see one another while we were growing up. I saw my sisters and brothers ONCE. My father twice untill Ilearned to ride a bile and would ride to where he worked to see him on the sly.
    My mother I saw several times a year who was driven to my home by her pedophile new husband who had her totally brainwashed.
    Does the system truly work for the protction and well being of the child? From what I know, it does not.
    So do the right thing elisha, if yu are involved you need to come clean as quick as possible and save a life of residual heartache for your sweet daughter.

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    1. Chicky, I'm so sorry to hear that! It seems like most experiences with foster care, are not good ones. :( I'm sure there are some, as Anon pointed out above, their experience WAS good. It seems like the good experiences are few and far between. You pointed out that the foster home(s) were less safe, caring, supportive, than what you were removed from. This is a sad fact, that is expressed often. I can't understand how the foster homes get away with such abuse/neglect. Why aren't they researched and looked into better? it's so sad, knowing that children are being removed from abuse/neglect and placed WITH abuse/neglect, sometimes worse than what they came from.

      Elisha needs to really think about this. The facts are out there, sad but true. Did she ever *think* she and her family would be in the situation, they are NOW in? Please Elisha, don't put Gabby in a potentially worse situation, that you may be able to prevent.

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    2. I agree with Chicky and Kit on this point. There are many bad and many good. The seperation from actual blood family is the part that makes EVERY experience a negative experience. The reality of what I am trying to say is that Elisha is not taking a risk, it is a given, Gabby is not going to have a good life experience if she is not with family!

      Elisha, you should think hard about what is right and what is wrong but KNOW, Gabby will have a negative experience without family beside her. She will eventually learn to live without you in her life, but the time until that happens will be negative, there is no doubt about that!

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  18. The person that knows what happened loves Themself more than Ayla and their family.

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    1. Yes, I agree. Those who know, need to speak up for that little innocent baby girl, Ayla. I doubt it is going to happen at this point, but I can keep hoping. The guilt, of even just knowing, has got to be eating at least one of them alive.

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  19. In the letter to Phoebe, the word should be SUSPICIONS not SUSPENSIONS. Is there any way to fix this in case someone mails it to Phoebe or Phoebe reads it. She may discount the whole thing because of the different meanings of the word. Or, because she sees a typo like that etc. Thanks so much for considering it.

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  20. Elisha loves her daughter, and I think she cared for Ayla too, but with no attachment. Li is very attached to her daughter and will hopefully do the right thing and tell the real truth, very soon. Elisha does not sound like a bad person, she sounds like a sweet person. I hope she saves herself and her daughter from this horrible nightmare, one way or the other, by telling the truth about what happened to Ayla.

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  21. She went on the walk,she isnt the one hiding,Where was Daddy why was he afraid to go? They were nice to Elisha and cheered for her when she said Ayla was alive,even though some didnt agree with her,they are nice people,they knew it wasnt easy for her to be there.There is no reason Justin couldnt at least go out on his lawn and thank people.He has the camera right behind him in the house,no one is going to hurt him.These people that put these vigils for Ayla arent out to hurt anyone.They just want to keep her in the media.Why isnt he trying like Elisha,Why is Elisha the only one out there in public? Sounds to me like Justin is using his sister.She is afraid of the media.Justin is.Why is that? Stop using your sister .POS

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    1. she isnt afraid of the media,sorry typo

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    2. I think Justin is using her as well. He's a coward, to not attend the walk, but leave that up to his sister. Not speak to the public, but leave that up to his sister as well. His sister, who is a mother, herself. There is no excuse for that. An innocent parent would have been there and spoke for themselves. Phoebe even left it up to Elisha, her daughter. I know she went, but late. Leaving Elisha basically all alone, she had a friend, but it's not the same. Why is it all being pushed on to Elisha? Elisha is the one with her own child to care for. Why are they making her take on all this responsibility? Justin needs to man up. Stop having and allowing others to do his talking. Especially others who have a lot more to lose than he does.

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    3. Elisha was at the walk, Lance organized the WV vigil and Lance is taking the fall for the beat down of J Linnel. Phoebe, Courtney, and Justin are the thumbing thier noses at LE. If anyone talks I want Elisha to save Gabby, or Lance to save himself for Gabby. Phoebe Courtney and Justin should rot in jail for life and then rot in hell for eternity!!!!!!

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    4. Speaking of the big CR: where is she??? It's time for LE to make her toe-the-line! (or at least get her in front of the media for a change)

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  22. For those who feel this particular topic is irrelevant to Ayla's case, I feel you are incorrect. PB has addressed the family members with thought provoking questions, in a tactful manner. I get what she's saying, and the reasons for asking these questions. I think PB has done a fantastic job! (Thank you, PB!)

    And to those who are bothered by the topic of neglect and abuse in Foster Homes, I am genuinely sorry for how such an issue may cause you to become upset. With due respect, I'm sure there must be caring, loving, and responsible Foster Parents who offer their homes to help a child in need. Sadly, I've never had the privilege of meeting one of them.

    The relevancy remains in PB's post by way of her heart felt plea to each family member for each other's sake, the family unit's sake, and most importantly for the sake of little Gabby. To believe there is zero chance of Gabby possibly being removed from a home in which family members are specifically being called out as untruthful by LE, is as nonsensical as saying Ayla's misplaced, or she toddled her cute self right out the door, or believing Justin was clueless and blind to Lance assaulting Gabby's father.

    How about Ayla? From what I understand, she did not personally volunteer to stay with her Father while Trista was in rehab, or did she? No. Sadly, she was forcefully taken, much like far too many children. She could easily have been placed in a foster home for a night or two while Social Workers figured out where they felt Ayla would be better off.

    I got the message, from PB's post, that she was voicing her genuine concern (which obviously I agree with) of what may happen to little Gabby, should the system step in out of concern for the welfare of her, or if everyone from that home is arrested which would leave Gabby without her family for however long.

    This topic includes the disgusting reality of the abuse that most certainly does occur, far too often, in the Foster Care system. One time, one child - that is too often! Placing a child in Foster Care is mostly due to lack of proper care in their own home. We expect our children to be safe in this system.

    I would like to extend an apology to any person whom I offended when I stated children are abused in Foster Homes. Thank God, not all children, though! However, if the comments pertaining to the abuse I suffered at the hands of my Foster Family upset you, then I truly feel sorry for you. Take a walk in my shoes, then you may judge my opinions and comments.

    I continue to stand by my belief: Ayla's case is my business. Her family, as well as LE, asked repeatedly for the public's help. I am part of the public. I am allowed an opinion. I will do everything I possibly can to help Ayla, and her family, because I've been asked to.

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  23. You are assuming pheebs and lisha know what happened. They are suspicious sure, but in denial. At the very least they have kicked the bum out, prob due to his lack of ans and his drug running.courtney is out too. All the reporters,police and broken windows because of the bad seed. Li may have believed ayla was home that nite, maybe FUCKHEAD PRETENDED to check on her. Courtney and Li NEVER SAW the baby but maybe inadvertenly lied about it because they believed justin AT THE TIME. Look for court and Li to be state witnesses.

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    1. You may be correct. They still need to speak up. When was the last time they physically saw Ayla? Even if they are just suspicious, they should voice their concerns. I have very little faith in them at this point though. The little faith I do have is left in Elisha. I don't think Phoebe has any intention of ever speaking up. She wasn't there, she knows nothing, thats her story and I'm pretty sure that's what she's sticking with. I thought Lance might have stepped up, but I've pretty much lost all hope in that happening too. Elisha is the one that has something, very important, to lose. She really needs to put her daughter first, even if she can't find it in her heart to do it for Ayla, maybe she'll do it for her own reasons. I have absolutely no faith in courtney, not even for her own son, do I think she would come forward. JMO

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    2. derek concerns me, his arrogance in reiterating how respected he is and bully way of speaking in his posts shows me someone who thinks they are above everything and control everything, including the law?
      I have not heard him speak of any concern for Ayla. Was he the one outside of the family to see her last on the morning that justin supposedlly was too hungover to take Ayla to her doctors appointment? Was he watching Ayla while justin slept?
      Was justin in a foul mood with a hangover? Was he alone with Ayla but sleeping so Ayla was not being watched?
      No facts, just questions in my mind this morning.

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    3. derek concerns me also, a LOT. Perhaps when everyone left for work/school, Ayla was sleeping, Justin was trying to sleep after being out so late. When Ayla woke up, he lost his temper? Maybe he brought her downstairs, but she wouldn't go back to sleep? I'm sure derek was there, but not for a playdate. - Parallel lying -

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    4. How old is dereks child? Appropriate age for a playdate with Ayla? A play date and justin stayed up untill pat 2 in the morning when he has to get up with a child and take her to a doc appointment, makes NO sence and totally irresponsible.
      So what was derek really there for? Your guess is as good as mine and maybe as concerning as mine. Something shady transpired that day, and maybe two somethings.

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    5. That's why I had so many questions about his job, in a different post. I wonder if he was supposed to go to work that day (Friday). Either way, I think Justin needed some "help". Who better to help, than his BFF. Things were cleaned up/hidden. Later in the early morning of the 17th, things were moved/removed. I would also assume derek came back at that time as well. I admit, I've changed my mind numerous times, especially as new facts come out. This is just a theory. One that potentially leaves some of the "suspects" out/innocent, which makes it a little more believable. Secrets CAN be kept among a group, but the more who know that secret, the more likely it is for someone to let the cat out of the bag.

      I can of course think of other scenario's, with some or all of them included. I really get a bad feeling of derek and really think he is much more involved, besides the LIP.

      I don't know derek's childs exact age, but I'm pretty sure it's close to Ayla's.

      It would be nice to hear why Ayla would have a playdate, but couldn't be brought to her dr appointment.

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    6. Kit, I don't think you will hear an answer to those questions or "who was watching Ayla the night of the 15th"? because they can't implicate anymore people without someone speaking. My belief is she was harmed late the 14th or early the 15th. Derek is lying his ass off because I think LE will prove he was at work. Phoebe, Courtney and Elisha may not have been involved in the actual act or initial cover-up but they have both made themselves accomplices after the fact by keeping thier mouths shut.

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  24. It could take just a small piece of information to connect all the other dots that we might already have in the case," said McCausland.

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    1. Yes, just that one missing puzzle piece to complete the picture.
      Hopefully someone comes forward and helps themselves a bit before the BOOM falls, and it WILL.

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  25. I took the tone of this post as being in line with, "shock factor". At this point, I think throwing everything and anything possible at the adults that were present the night of Ayla's disappearance is a good idea, since it is a known fact that they are not being forthcoming and/or honest. Phoebe wasn't present that night, but she is the Mother of the DiPietro children and appears to have solid control in their lives, so including her in this open letter to all of them works for shock factor. Maybe imagining that they are so connected in this case that their silence (covering whatever information they might have) could put them in prison will get them talking. Who knows, but shock factor is always a plus in my opinion.

    Thanks again for your submission, PB!

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  26. Obscure now has a profile pic of a woman and child. Beware it may be one of your photos.

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    1. That is a picture of the beautiful, clean Trista and her son. The Obscure post is to bash Trista and say she is pregnant again. That picture is of Trista being interviewed by the press on the 5 month date of Ayla's disappearance from Justin's house. The article stated Justin did not return their calls. So Justin, again, did not take advantage of press for Ayla. He wants the public to forget about Ayla IMO. The facts are he turns down press opportunities. The article was interesting, it said Trista was begging for any information of what happened to her daughter.

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    2. No Suz, the avatar.

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    3. What is the Avatar? She did have Tori's baby up on her site for awhile. Sicko freak

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    4. Just so everyone knows, the avatar she is using is my mother and my niece McKenzie. My mother works for an attorney so I imagine once she sees it, she will take proper legal action. I will have to alert my mother to it since she does not follow this case at all and does not read blogs.

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    5. Tori can you file an order of protection? This is harassment!

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    6. she is dispicable and will stop at nothing. !! I think she is dangerouse and seriously off her rocker.
      If I am not suppose to write such truths and opinion here feel free to delete :-)

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    7. I suppose I could file a protection order which would allow me to find out her name, which I am sure we already know, but honestly, she does it because she thinks it bothers me but it really doesn't. The pictures are on facebook as profile pics, the world can see them and I am not ashamed or embarrassed by my wonderful family and anyone who knows my family knows the type of people we are and that we would never do the things she does to innocent people who have nothing to do with this case. My family does not even have time to go online to read blogs or keep up on this case so it isn't hurting them because they have no idea it is being done unless I inform them of it. It just shows her true colors when she does it and the shock factor is gone since she has done it so much.

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    8. She is PITIFUL!! Yes, she does appear to be dangerous. She apparently does these things so that others will talk about her. It does work, because who can ignore such ignorance?! She is clearly sick in the head. This is who Justin and the DiPietro's, and derek and the Tudela's like speaking out for them. They apparently LOVE her and every sick thing she does, LOL-ing, all along the way. Must be "pay back" for having derek's mommy and daddy picture up here. How that makes sense, I do not know. The Tudela's are involved in Ayla's case, because they WANTED to be. They inserted themselves, with defending Justin, speaking for him, harboring him, even interviewing for him. Maybe someone could explain what exactly J4A's Mother AND NIECE, have to do with Ayla's case? AT ALL?? No, that sicko KEEPS putting up innocent people and CHILDRENS pictures.

      And then her and her followers can't understand why they are viewed so negatively... They know perfectly well why.

      Same with her belittling Lost N Missing! It's just plain sick. Putting down a Missing Persons Organization...

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    9. She is also gone so far as the drag Lost and Missing into her crazy posts and started attacking them. Her blog crossed the line a while ago in my opinion and it really is time someone address it from a legal standpoint. I have no problem if she chooses to support one side rather than another and even argue what pertains to the case...but the personal attacks on so many people is disturbing. The more she attacks, the more I wonder if she does in fact have some personal connection to someone involved. LE needs to look into that.

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    10. I'm not going to speak ill of the people supporting Justin & Co. I'm just going to say that they tend to agree with everything that goes on over there, and that's why and when the "ill" talk begins; that's where it stems from. JMO

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    11. People are certainly free to support whomever they choose and I have no problem with that. Unfortunately JSTL takes it to a whole other level. She intentionally taunts people for attention. If her blog was as good as she thinks it is, she would not have to use other peoples personal photos to try to get people to defend themselves. The truth is, she knows that not many people read her blog as being information worthy. The few that do participate there only participate for the shock factor (what will she do next). I truly find it horrible that she uses peoples images that aren't even related to this case, people who have probably not even read about the case. That woman is sick.

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    12. The only thing that validates JSTL's existence is people talking about her. If everyone stopped talking about her, ignored what she writes or posts, she would be a non-issue. Just sayin'

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    13. JSTL is a non-issue to me as well. I went to that blog once, and have NEVER gone back - I don't even want to give it the traffic. I don't know why people continue to go there, when the "person" running it is so obviously disturbed. Probably the only people posting there are are the administrator and her many pseudonyms and the Tudela's.

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    14. Really all view points are Welcome On JSTL ? What did I expect from The Dips another LIE, Selena said This about JSTL,This is a blog site.All views of the AYLA Reynold's case are talked about here.Close members and friends of the families involved have and do post here. Your views, no matter what you think, are welcome by the owner of the blog.

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    15. I second that Anon 9:59! Bullshit

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  27. I went to Adult Children of Alcoholics to support a friend who needed to go.( I am serious, my parents did not drink ) And to prevent him from running
    away from the door, again like he had done the ten other times he tried and chickened out.
    I sat as a silent observer and I can never repeat anyone's names, etc. BUT, I heard their stories. Quite a few had been in foster care, and were seriously abused. Ten, fifteen years later,they were trying to heal. It happens everywhere, no matter how many checks and balances our respective systems have.
    A Canadian Friend.

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    1. So true Canadian friend kiss are abused and killed in that system in Calidornia and Floida all the time. Some, not all, but one is too many. They also get kicked to the curb at 18, unlike most kids with families

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  28. I have been tossing things around in my head for some time now. All it has done is lead to a profound sense of sadness and dispair.

    How can so many children just vanish into thin air? Kyron Horman, Baby Lisa, Isa Celis, Hailey Dunn, and, of course, Ayla Reynolds just to name a few. In each case a family member or close associate is suspected of being responsible. Also, in each case, no arrests have been made. I just don't know what to think anymore.

    Maybe it's time to change the laws for missing and murdered children so that people think twice before they hurt these defenseless creatures. Maybe local authorities should arrest everyone in the house on the spot, take away any remaining children and throw them in jail until one of them talks or a true abduction has been confirmed. In Ayla's case, this might have worked. LE never said anyone was lying, they said they weren't telling everything they know. For Elisha, Courtney, and Phoebe that could be that they aren't sharing what they suspect. Withholding suspicions can also make it appear they are lying on a lie detector test. If you have a conscience, that is.

    What I do know is that everytime a child goes missing, it's just giving another dispicable person a road map on how to do it and not get caught. Something needs to be done to stop this epidemic.

    I am so afraid that little Ayla is going to go the way of so many others and noone will ever be punished for the crimes against her.

    Sorry this is so long. Thanks for letting me share.

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    1. Maine-iac, I def. know the feeling. SOMETHING needs to be done, to stop this "trend"!

      There are children who do really get kidnapped. I don't think they can or should immediately lock the parents up. Maybe after discovering no evidence of an abduction? No evidence whatsoever. I don't know what the charges would be. It would have to be something that would not cause double jeopardy, in case and in hopes of the childs remains being found, at a later date.

      Others have been discussing removal of double jeopardy, ONLY under certain circumstances/cases, namely murder. That would have to be something VERY well thought out and put together, but that may not be a bad idea.

      Something desperately needs to be done!

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    2. Yeah and along with it..lets throw out the 4th Amendment. @@

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    3. Um, yeah ok. Well at least that is not something set in stone. Probable cause...

      No, lets just have children keep turning up "kidnapped". @@

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    4. Possibly a fine line with the 4th amendment, but if parents call in an abduction, they are inviting the police into their lives. 4th amendment guards against search and seizure without reasonable or probable cause. Child missing - probable cause enough for me.

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  29. then there's the 5th...

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  30. John~ I don't think anyone is going to answer about who was watching Ayla while Justin was hung over and sleeping, you know, the day he was suppose to take Ayla to her Doctors appointment for her broken arm. That day.

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  31. That was pretty good post. I enjoyed it a lot. Unfortunately I think everyone in the family thinks they have gotten away with murder, literally. Which is disgusting because if they didn't want Ayla or couldn't I'm sure many people would have gladly taken her off their hands. I'm so sick with this case going no where and justice not being brought to Ayla I just quit reading about it for awhile. I was hoping something would have changed, but it hasn't. This site is still doing good and trying to bring more awareness out. While the unmentionable site has apparently surpassed her normal garbage can qualities to attack lostnmissing. I hope this ends soon, it's sickening.
    Everyone knows to some extent whom is responsible. There is no denying it. Hopefully they screw up or turn on each other, but I doubt it. If anybody does it will be a non family member.
    Non of them will come forward because they are butthole of the human race.

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