Monday, April 16, 2012

What Happened The Morning of 12/17/11 and Other Questions

With the release of the info about the 911 calls there has been a lot of chatter on this site and other sites about the events leading up to Trista being notified that Ayla was missing. Jeff tried to answer some of these questions but then more questions arose like Where was Trista going? Why was Jessica at the motel? Who is Robert?


MsPeridot19 asked two questions which became the inspiration of this post. In answering her questions I also am going to answer some of the others. These questions have not been evaded by Trista or Jeff. Apparently no one else thought to go to the source and ask the questions...

- - When did Justin ever first reach out and call Trista about Ayla being missing if he ever did? 



- - And if Justin did call and reach out to Trista to talk about Ayla being missing or what they could both do to help, when did he stop calling Trista?


The answer to the first question is No. Justin did not call Trista to inform her Ayla was missing, nor did he call her to ask her if she had Ayla. He also did not call Trista and ask her what they could do to jointly get their daughter home. 


It has been speculated on other blogs that Justin did not call Trista because he thought she took Ayla and had to call the police regardless because a crime had been committed. So MAYBE that is why Justin did not call Trista and ask her before he called the police. Personally, I would have called Trista immediately after calling the police, if not before, because I would want to know immediately where my child was before waiting for the police to get there and investigate. If Justin thought that Trista took Ayla why did he address the supposed kidnapper and say "You are not her parent"? If he really thought Trista took Ayla why would he say that? Trista is her parent, is she not?

Who was Trista with on her way to Machiasport? Who is this Robert character? Why did she not get a phone call from her family once they were contacted about Ayla's disappearance?

Trista was on her way to Machiasport with Robert, who is the father of Ray Sr. and grandfather of Ray Jr., he was bringing her to visit Ray. Trista was tired and Robert let her sleep on the long drive to Machiasport. Finally after Trista's phone kept ringing and Robert thought that it might be an emergency, he woke Trista up. It was a phone call from Ronnie Sr. that alerted Trista to Ayla's disappearance. Ronnie Sr. was too distraught to relay the awful news and passed the phone to Frankie to give Trista the phone number of the Waterville PD.  It is certainly believable that Trista was tired and getting any chance she could to sleep. That isn't an uncommon thing for mothers of young children to do. It also isn't strange to think that Trista was able to get a ride to Machiasport with Ray's father to visit him. I would imagine that Robert tries to visit his son as much as he can, just because Trista was able to get a ride with him certainly does not mean that Trista had reliable transportation any time she needed.

Why was Jessica at the motel room and not at her apartment? Were Jessica and Trista defrauding the state by having them pay for the motel room? Was the motel room searched? Was Jessica's apartment searched?

Jessica was living in the motel room with Trista, Jessica no longer had her apartment in Lewiston. The state was not paying for the motel room either, Ronnie Sr. and Frankie were to help the girls get on their feet. It sounds like a concerned father trying to help his girl and not being able to take them in under his own roof for whatever reason. I guess the theory about DHHS fraud is out the window. The motel room was searched by the Portland Police, Jessica happily allowed them to search. There was no reason to check Jessica's old apartment in Lewiston, since Jessica was no longer living there.

Why did Trista go back to Portland before going to Waterville? Isn't Waterville on the way?  Did Trista ditch the car she had transported Ayla in to Machiasport so Police would not search it?


Trista did not drive back to Portland, she was on her way to Machiasport when she got the news and Robert drove her to the Police Station in Waterville like the Portland Police Officers suggested. When Trista got to the Police Station, she was immediately brought upstairs to be interviewed/interrogated.

After the release of the one sided text messages everyone said Trista was a liar and that Justin had been in contact with her from the beginning, however, the text messages do not start until the 16th of January. Almost a month after Ayla went missing. If Justin was so concerned about Ayla and was so positive that Trista had Ayla and a month had passed and LE still hadn't found Ayla, wouldn't you start trying to contact  that person yourself or at least return their messages and/or calls? Trista tried calling and messaging for 2 weeks, several times a day and got no response from Justin so finally she gave in and contacted Phoebe directly even though she did not care for her and knew that Justin, Elisha, and Lance were scared of Phoebe. Phoebe's response to Trista was that LE had informed Justin not to talk to Trista. Trista, worried about her daughter was relentless and kept trying Justin until finally around the middle of January he finally responded. Justin's excuse-LE took his phone and confiscated it. Why didn't they take Phoebe's phone? Trista not being as naive as some think, called LE and told them she finally got in touch with Justin and asked if it was true that they had confiscated his phone and also asked him not to talk to Trista, LE's response-that was not true. Surprise, Surprise-MORE lies from Justin.

Trista's version can easily be disproved or confirmed by LE, she knows if she is lying, it will be known by LE even if they do not publicly confirm or deny her story. She is telling it because she is telling the truth, as with everything else that she has told us. Trista's claims have been backed up with documents proving she is telling the truth. LE has not publicly stated that Trista or her family are not being truthful. They have said this about Justin and his family. Justin and his family have not backed up their words with anything, they just expect us to take them at face value. They feed information to another blog that has a penchant for lying although tries to disguise themselves as a seeker of truth. How does that give credibility to their words? Until Justin and Company start backing up their claims with proof, I will continue on the path that I am on and continue believing that Trista is innocent in Ayla's disappearance. Justin, not so much...















113 comments:

  1. Thank you for clearing that up.I thought they had taken Phoebe's phone too. But if Justin wanted to reach Trista, he could have. He should have. His cell phone isn't the only one in the world available to him was it ? Aren't there phones at the Trudela's ?

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  2. I find it annoying and frustrating that these questions even have to be answered. Do people not trust the police? I think some people are grasping, and having a hard time accepting that Justin may have hurt Ayla. The evidence makes it obvious, and I wish police could do more. I feel like some want to cause a distraction from the truth, so they use small details of tristas life to judge, and personally attack her.

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    1. ITA, Why are the Reynolds having to answer irrelevant questions like who was driving and why was Triasta going to M..port? But yet on the other hand, the TROLLS that are asking all the BS mute questions wont answer any relevant ones like,

      1. when was Aylas blood spilled,
      2. who cleaned-it up,
      3. what medical professional treated her for the wound,
      4. why was a 25,000 LIP purchased instead of Ayla being added as a rider to an existing policy,
      5. why did JD plead only for immunity of the kidnapper rather then Aylas return,
      6. why was JD sounding unconcerned on the 911 tapes
      7. why did JD say "you are not her parent" but yet sends a text to Trista saying how sure his family is that Trista is guily.

      I know I know, I am going to get a response that 6 & 7 are only the words of the reynolds. I know but you have to skip 1-5 to get to 6 & 7 and those 5 questions are factual based that have never been answered. So what we only have the words of the Reynolds because the paternal family refuses to speak for Ayla.

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    2. Why you ask? This is a case of childish behavior and the 3 year old who pushes someone and says "I know you are, but what am I?"

      The questions to the Reynolds are frivolous and just a childish attempt to argue for the sake of arguing. That is why the questions seem so stupid to you, to me and to anyone else reading them. That is why none of us care to address them. Some equally ridiculous questions as examples:

      1. What color was the phone Justin used when he called 911?
      2. When Justin tripped on the stairs and fell on Ayla, what was he wearing?
      3. Was a vegetable served in the last meal Ayla was fed by Justin?
      4. Does Courtney Roberts own a red shirt?
      5. Does Gabby enjoy watching cartoons?
      6. How many times did Pheebs brush her teeth the day Ayla went missing?

      Just Ignore The Lies.

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    3. Thank goodness I no longer read there. I would have gone off, if I had seen those questions, trying to get ignorance to go back to school.

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  3. I don't care what anyone says, JUSTIN IS GUILTY! Yes, I believe he deserves a fair trial, and yes, I believe he is the reason Ayla is missing.

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  4. I have never thought Trista was behind Ayla's disappearance. This gives more background information, though, maps things out more clearly.

    I simply wish they would find Ayla, but as time progresses, I grow more fearful that this will not happen. However, if it does happen it will be LE that solves the case.

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  5. If anyone knows Machiasport- they would know that the only thing there is a prison. Not to mention that Trista has stated before that Ray is there. But, thank you Tori for the blog and getting all the answers out there. I did not know all this about Justin not calling Trista. My first call would have been to Trista too, but waiting a whole month... to me, that is only another sign of his guilt, and how cold hearted Justin is. And then, add on top of it, another LIE from Justin about why he did not call her.. I'm starting to wonder if this guy knows how to tell the truth or if he just opens his mouth and lies fall right out! OMG! Tori, in addition to your blog with all Justin's quotes, you should add another with just his lies...

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    1. Don't forget there's another lie from Phoebe as well.

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    2. So Justin did NOT call Trista or accept phone calls from Trista for ONE MONTH after Ayla disappeared????

      I am not asking about text messages. It seems this is another word game of Justin's. Trista says he wouldn't "speak" to Trista on the phone, but Justin appears to be claiming he "spoke" with her via text messages. Hiding behind text messages. What a coward!!

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    3. When Trista claimed Justin was not talking to her via phone or text message she was telling the truth, he did not message her until the middle of January and on her next interview she did say he finally talked to her. The one sided messages he released (although Lies removed them, hmmmm)backs that up

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  6. I believe at this point it is clearly about reasonable doubt and damage control. They know when Ayla is found all will be revealed. If Trista has Ayla, she will be found alive and well. If Justin is lying, Ayla will be found deceased and alone. LE said no kidnapping, so at that point the burden of proof will lie with Justin and Co., and a deceased Ayla does not fit in with the "Trista did it" theory.

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  7. Grace, I agree with your reasonable doubt statement. I have been saying the same since the beginning. IMO, that is their #1 Priority with keeping quiet- if they cannot prove which one did it, they can blame each other, except, I think when all the evidence is in, that they ALL will be facing charges and the one that will get the less time, will be the ONE pointing the figure in the correct direction. JMO

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    1. PB,
      I believe you are correct. They will all be charged, some with more charges than other. The sad thing about this all is that two more innocent children are going to lose thier mothers before all is done. I know some people will say this is a good thing, and I would agree from the perspective of the mother ability to what is right or thier deservability to raise thier children. But just like Trista being the only parent Ayla KNOWS, Elisha and Courtney are the only parents that the two innocents know and thier lives are going to be up ended just as the Dipietros did to Ayla.

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    2. I agree John, and I can only hope that Gabby and Ayden will adjust and be with loving people, people that will put these childrens best interest first. For all we know, Elisha and/or Courtney could be the one that hurt Ayla and at the least, they are not protecting their babies from the Monster that did do it. Not to mention, that there is a good chance that Ayden was right there in the same room. Gabby and Aydens welfare really bothers me.

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    3. Gabby and Aydens welfare bothers me as well. I wish Li or CR would be bothered a little bit. I pray that Ayden was not a witness to the harm inflicted upon Ayla.

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    4. I've wondered that too John P. If Gabby and/or ayden witnessed whatever happened to Ayla. It's not a pleasant thought. I hope they did not witness anything, and if they did I pray they are so young that they forget. But, with all the injuries Ayla received in 2 months time, how have those 2 not been injured? I saw where someone else explained that children of abuse/neglect become used to it, to their life of abuse/neglect. Ayla was obviously NOT used to such treatment. Possibly she didn't know she wasn't supposed to "bother" the adults. That explanation made sense. I can't remember who made the comment.

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    5. I don't remember seeing the comment Kit, but I can follow the reasoning behind it. I feel terrible for people, especially children, that have to live through that type of childhood.

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    6. It was actually me that made the comment. Wierd how it came back around. In the same comment I also stated that the other children was not fathered by Justin. Justin may not have thought it was his place to spank or "beat" Ayden or Gabby, but Ayla was HIS child. I guess it could be either situation but I do find it VERY conserning that the others did not have "accidents".

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    7. Also, another idea: An example that I think of is if Justin viewed Gabby and Ayden as spoiled rotten and he used Ayla as an example on how Courtney and Elisha should be "parenting" their children. Instead of redirecting Ayla he "punishes" her for making bad choices and the anger that Courtney and Elisha did not do the same, only means harsher punishment for Ayla.

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    8. PB, you make some great comments and have some great point and opinions. It is funny how it came back around, especially since you had just commented right above John P in this conversation too! I'm glad to find out who made the comment, so you can be credited for it. I won't forget now. That explanation has stuck with me because it made so much sense to me. Your second explanation makes sense too, but I'm leaning more towards the first. Or maybe it could actually be a mixture of both.

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    9. Kit- don't worry about credit.. I'm just glad that my comments are making sense to people lol. I would not be surprised if there is a history of abuse with Ayden and Gabby, and that they DID learn to keep to themselves. I think all that should be public information just like criminal histories. No one should be able to abuse their child and then live like nothing happened and not have to tell anyone. Yet if you get in a fight with an adult, and you go to court, it is out there for people to know. Doesn't make sense.

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  8. Where is Courtney? She has not been seen or heard from. Everyone talks about her "extreme hatred and jealousy of Trista/Ayla" but where is this coming from? She has been the most silent/hidden of all.

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    1. Shes busy shopping on her Pinterest,picking out Jack Daniels cupcakes for Justins birthday,And picking out a new tattoo for herself on Aylas birthday that says "love is enough",shes a happy girl saying cute,and love on new clothes.Her friends had 9 pics of Ayla on their Pinterest ,to reach thousands of people with Aylas pic,she didnt have any until she was asked,She seems happy to me.And looking foward to the future of Loving her man and buying new clothes.You tell me why she has to be asked to post a pic. of Ayla on Pinterest and Her facebook account.Is she trying to find Ayla NO shes more interested in her cute TATTOO.

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    2. I should have also said there is nothing wrong with her being on pinterest,but when she couldnt put 1 pic of Ayla there,or her facebook without being asked it pissed me off,I think Ayla deserves more pics than the clothes and hairdo's! Thats what you do when you love someone everything possible to find them.And I have no idea why her friends didnt find it strange they had pics and she didnt.

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  9. I just cannot believe that this case hasn't been solved yet, or that the other two children within that home have not been removed by DHHS. Where the hell is the LE? DHHS? Obviously to the naked eye there is violence in that home which makes it unsafe for children. Ayla's abuse, the fight with JL ... Some people are so quick to lay blame on Trista but fail to look at their own faults and negative actions. The post is great Tori, I think that those with further questions about Trista are starting to come to the conclusion that it is COMPLETELY impossible for her to have taken Ayla or done anything to her. Could there possibly be any further speculation on Trista and her family after this? I don't think so. And what the hell Justin ... He NEVER even bothered to call Trista about Ayla vanishing ... that makes me sick!

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    1. He never bothered to call Trista because he knew she wasn't with her. He never cared about Trista and never cared about Ayla. I believe he thought getting rid of Ayla gets rid of Trista. No baby to care for, no child support, and a nice little payout of life ins.. It sickens me that his family stands by him..

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    2. Thank your Tori for this article and specifically answering my questions as well as all the other questions. And thank you to both Jeff and Trista for clarifying this information.

      Imagine Justin not calling Trista? I mean out of respect as well as to see if she would know where Ayla was. I guess I can understand people who have been bitterly feuding for some time over child custody, that they might ask the police to call the other parent for them? But, this is not that scenario at all. As a matter of fact, it was rather the opposite scenario until recently. And in this case Trista was willing to work with Justin. And I highly doubt Justin ever even asked the police to notify or call Trista. And then a month later Justin honors Trista by answering her calls/texts? Ya know the mother of his missing daughter Ayla? (sadly shaking my head) And Justin puts it on the police for his not being in contact with Trista? Seriously?

      This is garbage! I find Justin a vile despicable monster!!!

      And did Phoebe really believe that Justin had the character along with the emotional and psychological stability to suddenly take on parenting a 1 1/2 year old toddler full time? The challenge of taking care of a toddler who was suddenly taken from her mother by force? A toddler who barely knew Justin as her Father. And Justin had hoped (at least previously) that Ayla would not be born. And did Phoebe even care if Justin would be able to or would actually take good care of Ayla? I mean what about Ayla in all of this??? Also, I am guessing Phoebe thinks it is morally okay to just take Ayla's mother Trista from Ayla. And to take Trista's daughter Ayla from Trista? And how many other people did Ayla lose from her life when Justin forcibly snatched her?

      If Phoebe's son should go to prison, I personally will not have one speck of sympathy, compassion, or even any empathy for Phoebe and her heart. A very callous heart - at least where Ayla is concerned.

      I would like to add that I too believe Trista is telling the truth. And for the very same reasons J4A stated. Also after I personally watched Trista in several news clips I began to see someone who spoke without any guile whatsoever. (Sure cannot say the same about justin.) I did however see a woman who appeared to be under great pressure to not say anything wrong concerning the whole situation. I think Trista did a wonderful job.

      It is so hard to even read about how some of Ayla's maternal family found out Ayla was missing. I do hope the right people who know where Ayla is, will read this article , and find a way to help bring Ayla home. There is a way, please find it, and do it!!! There is a large reward.

      J4A, great article and all your comments are common sense and reasoned.
      all MOO

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  10. If Phoebe's son should go to prison? Looks like a closer possibility she might need to consider.

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  11. J4A,
    The yahoo article has been changed. Originally it stated Trista returned to Portland before travelling to Waterville. After reading your account, I went back to check and it now states, as you do, that Trista went directly to to Waterville. Can you explain if this was reported wrong originally ? There are lots of people that call whatever Trista says into question so I think this should be addressed.

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    1. Carol Bengle GilbertApril 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM

      I am the author of this article. Yes, I made a mistake in the original report and corrected it.

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    2. Thanks for clearing that up CGB, I did like your article.

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    3. I love your articles Carol, more on this case please!

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    4. Thanks Carol for clearing that up. Keep up the great work!!!

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    5. Something struck me on Peter's SA blog.
      He basically stated paraphrasing that the DiPietro-Tudela clan joined the circus voluntarily. In the company of all those people who have recently murdered a child then claimed kidnapping.

      Its your life and it's the circus life.
      At least the Reynolds-Hanson's didn't volunteer to that macabre club. The not volunteering is what gives them the strength to fight on and swat all the clowns riding on their unicycles or tooting their little horns in their miniature clown cars.

      You signed up for this dance.
      It is part of your earthly destiny.

      HONK HONK Toot Toot.

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  12. Justin, and Heidi asked the public to keep an open mind.
    It is hard to do, because Justin is not answering simple questions. An innocent father should explain:

    - Why and when was Ayla bleeding?
    - Was there someone else's blood there too? Whose?
    - Who took care of Ayla while Justin was in Portland?

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  13. Any parent that loved their child would be in total freak mode the second they noticed their child was missing... they would dial 911 immediately, beg them to stay on the line with you so you could pin point the second they would arrive and to hope they would give you answers (like they just found a toddler roaming the streets). Immediately following (if not at the same time from another phone) a parent in a relationship such as justin and trista would call that other parent freaking/screaming/questioning/etc. UNLESS you knew exactly where she was. And he does. Sooner or later that sorry POS will pay.

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  14. It's funny how Trista and Jeff continue to answer questions and clarify information, TRUTHFULLY, whether it is favorable to Trista or not. She has constantly, from the very begining, put herself in the public eye, for one reason only. For Ayla. Who would want every piece of their private, personal life made public and scrutinized by the public? No one. But obviously, that is what a parent is willing to do, in order for their missing child to be brought home.

    Where is Justin? He's too shy? Too quiet? Afraid to be scrutinized by the public? BS!! If he cared, with one little tiny piece of his heart, for Ayla, he would not care what ANYONE thinks of him.

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    1. He is SCARED. Trista is, too, any parent would be. But she is truthful, and she wants Ayla back. Justin only wants to not be arrested. Trista is mature enough to realize it doesn't even matter that some filthy blog is trying to scrape up any piece of info on her, drag her through the mud over again and again. But she loves her kid. The difference between night and day, the two of them. Justin is too busy protecting himself, through his female voices, he doesn't even have time to think about Ayla. If she meant anything to him, he would have been involved in her life a long time ago. I just wish LE could do something now.

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    2. I was surprised when I learned Selena had never met Ayla. The way she goes on over at that other blog, made me think she'd been around quite often when Ayla was there.

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  15. Justin is so scared! I feel he has every right to be! He has so much to hide that opening his mouth could get him into trouble. I wish he would just slip! All of that clan in wtvl seems to be complete trash with minimal brain power between them all. How have they not slipped up yet?? No real man would silently sit by while their daughter is missing! BS BS BS Justin!! Speak up for Ayla!! We are very private people and my husband is a very manly man who never lets people see his emotions, however in a case like this he would cry in front of a camara over and over gaurantee it!! Justin won't do a damn thing to help find this liitle beautiful angel Ayla. Leaving us with only one conclusion, she is not missing in his eyes because he knows EXACTLY where she is or what happened to her! I guess with this knowledge the need to peg and plead for her safe return goes out the window. Trista does not have this privelage. That woman is as strong as it gets! She does not care who is judging her or why, all that matters to Trista is Ayla and keeping her face in the media! While Justin continues to look like a looser, Trista continues to earn my respect!

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    1. You ask "How have they not slipped up yet??" I think the answer to that is they are not speaking! Justin has his surrogate speakers for him, Li and Phoebes have the lawyer who gets information from these very blogs, Lance is hanging with his buddies just chilling and smoking some weed, and CR has just avoided all contact with the public while sneaking in to certain blogs and dropping unclaimed posts and stories. AH & HT have thier loyal readers that will take the blame for anything that backfires and Selena, well, she is the only one in the family speaking and she has never met Ayla nor is she any closer to her family then she claims the Reynolds family was before the "disappearance"! This is of course JMO.

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    2. @John P- agreed! And how is it that "Selena", the famous "voice", of JSTL, knows so much? So much insight and inside info from someone who had already stated that she was not close to the family? A family-run hate blog? What is the purpose of that blog? Only to run down the Reynolds. "Selena" was defending herslf today on JSTL when someone asked her this same question. It was a weak defense. JSTL is trying to pull everyone down to her/his own level of hate and deceit. Discredit everyone who says anything not favoring JD.

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    3. SoTx, I never saw a single instance when Selena showed any concern for Ayla, only concern for JD and PD. I never saw where she answered a relevant question with anything other than an insult. That is why I will not return to that site!

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    4. It's pretty pathetic how little Selena used to actually talk about Ayla and use her name. Since it was pointed out, she now uses Ayla's name almost excessively and makes sure to CAP her entire name - AYLA, every single time she uses it. Should she have needed someone to point out to her that she never discussed Ayla, so then now she has to CAP her entire name just to prove to someone that she is now using Ayla's name and discussing her?

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  16. I would like one answer to one very important question that I have not seen posted anywhere, or maybe I have missed something. Where was Ayla the night Justin went to Portland with his friends? Does anyone know the answer? I would like to see an answer. If indeed Ayla was not missing before the 17th of December she had to be in someone's care while Justin was in Portland. Where was Ayla between the 8th and 17th of December. When Trista tried to call there was always an excuse that Ayla was not available. My heart goes out to Trista and her family. I have been sickened by this whole scenario from the start.

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    1. WOW, powerful article....what say you, Selena? keep the information coming, please. The more info available to the public, the more clearer the picture becomes.

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    2. And I have never seen that question answered either. Maybe LE knows and is just not saying. And who did the babysitting there? They all have said they go to school, work, etc. Lots of missing details.

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    3. Allo Selena would say was maybe she was with a babysitter.Why hide it if there is nothing to hide?

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  17. Very good post J4A and I thank Trista for sharing this imfomation. I feel badly tho that she has to account for every second right down to that she napped on the drive.

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    1. I should add, AND Justin answers to nothing!

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  18. Is anyone thinking along the possibility that Justin and crew have Ayla hidden and we are seeing some kind of scam in mid-operation?

    I think that all of the Justin groupies, and especially Aunt Selena, have postulated enough scenarios about Trista, Jessica, and assorted Reynolds hiding Ayla in a "custody abduction". Are there some reasons Justin may have wanted to remove Ayla and hide her to gain something?

    Is Justin planning a wrongful arrest suit against several LE agencies because LE jumped the gun on an innocent dad, or some other scam like that?

    After Justin is arrested, charged with Ayla's death and perhaps goes on trial, could Ayla then be delivered from the place where Justin or associates have hidden her? She is then deposited so she can walk into a Wallmart, a hospital or fire station and, voila, she's found! The bad ol' police guys botched it big time! Sue the pants off of them, Justin, you kind and loving, daddy!

    I know a theory like this doesn't account for the blood and the LIP. But I think if LE had enough of Ayla's blood to state that she couldn't have lived after an accident producing that much blood, Justin would have been arrested already. I've never quite figured out the LIP connection, a scam, no doubt, but what kind? To what end?

    And I can't think Justin cared enough about Ayla to want her all to himself without Trista in his life, and would take the chance that he couldn't be with her or be seen with her for a long time is a logical argument at all.

    I think he cared next to nothing for her. She was a way for him or Phoebe to get out of paying back and on-going child support and to maybe reap some goodies from the state as full-time custodians.

    If there is any merit in this wild theory involving Ayla being hidden by Justin, then a scam is involved. But it's just another wild theory (Aunt Selena gets to propose these all the time!) but one which gives a faint hope that Ayla is alive.

    If she is alive, and Justin hid her with help, where do you think she could hide in plain site?

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    1. @ANON 8:36--Do you think Justin is smart enough to have planned something that elaborate? I don't. Personally, I think JSTL blog is to throw some things out at the public, pollution, you might say, to mess up finding an unbiased jury panel in that area of Maine. I don't even believe that is "Selena", or, if it is, someone is directly telling her what to say. The whole clan of DP has to be behind JSTL, directing it. When you think about the case(Ayla's), and go back to the very start-the basics- it seems pretty apparent that Justin knows what happened to her. Maybe he didn't do it but arranged for someone else to do it. Maybe he lost his temper with Ayla, accidentally killed her, got someone to hide her. Or maybe he arranged an "abduction" for her. Someone in that house knows. Then the part about the blood, LIP, more lies he told have come out. LE has said foul play; they cleared Trista, and others, but not the ones in the house in Waterville. We really have to go on what LE has told us, and what Dip's reactions have been. People have been throwing in all kinds of theories-just read JSTL a few times! I hope to God that Ayla is alive somewhere. I hope she can be returned to her MOM. But, alot of time has passed-and I think JD thinks if he can stay quiet long enough, the whole thing will be forgotten. If he is arrested now, even without Ayla being found, the jury panel will have to be from an area that has not been saturated with info and misinformation, and more crap, they people who are chosen as jurors are asked, specific questions about what they ave heard or read about the case. They are asked to make a decision based on EVIDENCE, not gossip, blogs, talking, etc. Only evidence presented and shown in court. Could end up being another "Casey Anthony/Scam decision.

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    2. The people I have talked to, strangers, who do not follow the case on the internet and going by just what they hear in the media think Justin is innocent of possibly doing the unthinkable but do think that he is the one who is hiding her. Every one of them had not heard news of blood beng involved so I think jurors will be in for some surprises and I don't think there will be a problem coming up with a jury for this case.

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    3. @Chicky-I hope you are right. We don't need anymore proof of how easy it is to murder your kid and get by with it. I hope he didn't do it-hope Ayla is alive and well. I think the point I kind of gave up on that was the blood part. A parent would remember accidents(bloody ones especially) and where and when they occurred. Why wouldn't he come out and say what happened then, IF it was a cut foot, nose bleed, etc. And if it was a smear that had been cleaned up from a larger amount, well that looks even worse for him. Seems to me you would want to say something, if there was a minor accident, and you cleaned up. I don't want to think the worst scene possible. But after this amount of time, he has never offered explanations. And his family doesn't talk either. Excusing themselves and JD by saying the public and media are eating him alive. I don't see how he would have the money to hide her with someone. That was an initial thought of mine, too-him, or Phoebe, placed her with a relative somewhere. There really would be no point in that except to keep Trista from having her. He knows what happened to Ayla. Innocent until proven guilty-no rights for the poor kid who is gone.

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    4. He'd have no cause of action for wrongful arrest. Even if she were really kidnapped, and he got arrested, he'd have no cause of action for wrongful arrest if the arrest was based on reasonable evidence. But if he hid Ayla and falsely reported her missing, he would be coming to the court with "unclean hands" and most assuredly would not win a judgment against police for false arrest.

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  19. That first month Justin made no calls he was simply to freaked waiting to be arrested, not sure why he wasn't arrested, he got curious and communicated. In a situation like this the stress must be unrelenting and those few moments you get it off your mind, it only hurts worse when it come back in comparison to the few minutes of distraction. Time is not on his side.

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  20. Thanks for this excellent article. The dichotomy between the information Trista has freely given and the complete refusal to answer questions by Justin and his co-conspirators leaves no doubt who is guilty. I just hope LE knows exactly what they are guilty of and makes arrests soon.

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  21. I'm no math whiz (or expert on back child support), so maybe someone could help me out here. Justin supposedly learned of Ayla (which I don't believe anyway); was ordered to pay back child support, when Ayla was 7 months old, correct? Is the back child support lumped together with the current, bringing his weekly/monthly payment up higher, all together? Or is the back child support and current, seperated (as in like 2 different "bills")?

    At one point, someone commented that he paid his entire back child support in one lump sum (I believe it was a commenter at JSTL). It has recently been stated though, that he was 6 months behind, due to owing the back support (because he didn't know about Ayla). If the second scenerio is true, how could he still owe 6 months in back child suppport? It took roughly an entire year to pay one month of back child support?

    I wasn't going to get quotes and links but I did (from my cell, so if the link doesn't work, just search it in google or at JSTL):

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    Where is Ayla? Mar 18, 2012 08:49 PM

    @Gomez-If you would like proof, ask Jeff Hansen to verify. His blog is now up and running and he is answering questions. Trista received a lump sum from Justin for the amount of back support that was owed. Hopefully they give you a truthfull answer. You can find his blog here: http://www.answersforayla.com/


    http://juststopthelies.blogspot.com/2012/03/facts-according-to-you.html?m=1

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    Per Obscure:

    Can we ask Trista why she waited SEVEN months to file for child support? That is why he is 6 months behind, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

    http://juststopthelies.blogspot.com/2012/04/one-question.html?m=1

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    1. Darn it Kit, you got me again. I promised I would never post on that site again and now I want to go yell at the idiot who posted the question about why wait to tell JD of Ayla? ANSWER JD wanted Trista to abort so he would not be responsible for a child! Obscure, would you tell him of a child if he told you to abort that same child? Totally idiotic post!

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    2. John P, it was Obscure/Seeking Truth/ST/Lies him/herself that posed the question. Most people agree with your opinion as to why Trista didn't tell Justin. It's not even worth commenting there. I just copied quotes, so the infamous anon, who claims any comment without a link is a lie, wouldn't have a chance - it was easy enough for me to find.

      Anyway, I'm really confused on the back child support issue. Does anyone know how it works? Is the back child support dragged out soooo long that it takes about a year to pay off a month or two? I'm sure it goes by income, but is that realistically how long it takes? Plus, what happened to the claims of him paying a lump sum? Supposedly, Justin The Great had a job AND was going to CDL school. He must have had a job to be trying to claim Ayla on his taxes...

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    3. Kit,

      My son is paying back child support but it is to another state. For that state, they simply garnish wages but not so much the person having the garnishment cannot survive. Those garnishments are not givien to the other parent, they go directly to the state and the state includes it as income which effects the welfare collected by the other parent. With JD supposedly not working throughout or being paid under the table, the additional amounts garnished could take a long time to pay back.

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    4. It may be different in other states. Here, if you can't pay it, and get behind, mom takes you to court. There is a minimum amt. here, and I guess if you can't cough up what you owe, you are liable for that amt.(it is $2000 here). Then, they take the delinquent amt., somehow divide it up, add it on to the regular amt. I bet his monthly amt. was not even that much-for 1 kid, considering the amt. he was making at that hellhole he was working at. Which, by the way, has been busted several times(drugs), and is a well known place to buy(drugs). I guess the downside to Trista getting child support for Ayla is that by proving paternity, you are going to have to work out some sort of terms for visitation, and it probably gives the dad more rights. Also if you are trying to get govt. asst., in any way, you are going to have to do it. So, she would have had to do it eventually. If it was figured out according to his monthly pay, I bet it was not that much. Even the people I know that have 3 or more kids, the child support is really not very much.

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    5. Ok, I see. Thanks for the insight John P. So, I wonder what happened to the earlier claim of him paying the entire back child support in one lump sum...?

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    6. BTW My son will be caught up next week after 12 weeks of garnishment. Though the state could have garished tax returns they chose not to. That was solely the choice of the state though.

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    7. Thanks So. Tx. for your insight too.

      If someone is on a "payment plan" for back support is it still tech. considered behind? Or "behind" only if they once again get behind on that too?

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    8. Kit,

      I have a big issue with the lump sum payment. If he was living with his buds so they could afford thier lifestyle (single and manly), then where did the lump sum come from. If HT or PB are saying they paid it for him, where is the reciept. I would never pay that much to the government without a reciept so they couldn't say later that I never paid.

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    9. @ John P-yeah but he probably didn't want to pay ANY of it, ever. You can bet Phoebe got in on the idea for him to go ahead and get Ayla so he wouldn't have to pay it. That woman knows the ropes! She has worked the system for years herself. Some of the worst abusers of govt. assistance I know are actually govt. workers. Being on the inside gives them insight on how the system works. So, if it had worked out, he would have completed his CDL and started working, making some real money. And if he could get out of the child support payments...If he had wanted Ayla, he would have been in her life some time ago. Not suddenly, and not the way it happened-him suddenly deciding he was going to keep her, right at the time Trista was filing for custody. At least she was trying to do it legally. As you can see, I don't believe JD's story. Any of it.

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    10. I agree SoTx

      Phoebe had a big part in it. And I think the lump sum was a fire started to make people believe there was no longer a debt. Thankfully there are people a little to smart like Kit and Yourself.

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    11. Further input: Every State differs in how arrears are handled. A separate example from John P's is mine for instance; the court did not require automatic wage garnishment, as my son's father worked odd jobs enough that it would have been a hassle to update the paperwork so routinely. So, we have it stated in our Settlement Agreement that he deposits x-amount of dollars each month, in a separate bank account setup for our child support matters. Now, whenever he is behind on payments, he is not sought after by the Courts; it would be up to me to seek legal assistance (which is too much of a burden to bother with, IMO). Any arrears that accrue are separate from the current monthly child support amount that is owed; meaning, if he misses a month or so, that adds up separately while he still has an ongoing monthly responsibility dollar amount to deposit. When he misses, it adds up, but the monthly amount is still required to be paid outside of whatever is accruing; so consider it two separate "accounts", I suppose (arrears and current).

      And yes across the comments here; in order to establish child support action, you have to determine paternity first, then child support, then a settlement agreement with a visitation schedule as the Courts and supporting Department assistance programs deem fit (DHHS, DoCF, etc.).

      (e.g., In our case, I requested not to receive child support and requested only a relationship with my son and required visitations to support the same; the Courts procedures required paternity establishment first, child support to be established second, followed by a visitation plan. Even though I tried to just get one thing instead of the lot, they required it...so it makes sense that Trista's stance changed once child support was established through the Courts; she probably had no way around it, but still had a right to request child support.)

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    12. Kit,

      I think, not 100 % sure, but once a payment plan is agreed upon, you account goes in current state until another payment is missed. I had an employee that did just that to get a job and then stopped paying.

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    13. Thanks for all the input and insight. I don't believe the lump sum, but am even MORE curious if it IS true, due to JSTL apparently knowing that he was/is 6 months behind. Behind from actual back child support, or behind AFTER the payment plan was set up???

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    14. I saw on A4A that Jeff posted Justin was behind on child support payments, but didn't say how much.
      In my state the parent paying support has their regular monthly obligation, if there are arrears owed, the Judge will usually just tack a smaller amount onto the regular monthly payment until the arrearages are paid in full.

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    15. Perhaps the lump sum was a income tax intercept?
      Would have made it involuntary. Also this could be another reason he was interested in getting ayla to stop any current year tax intercepts.

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    16. Very perceptive anon @ 8:34

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  22. I don't think TRISTA had any interest whatsoever in "child-support" from JDiP, for Ayla.
    It wasn't "Trista" going after Justin for the support...it was the state of Maine, because Trista and Ayla were receiving WELFARE benefits.

    I think Trista was probably reticent to name Justin as "the father" AT ALL...she only did so BECAUSE the state of Maine forced her hand.

    Another way of looking at it:
    Trista/Ayla's total overall "monetary benefit" would remain UNCHANGED whether JDiP was paying child-support, or not, because they simply SUBTRACT whatever he's chipping in from her monthly benefit check ANYWAY!
    The state of MAINE, on the other-hand, now has to shell out that much LESS for Ayla's care.

    If Derrek's boy "Peach" wanted to BLAME someone for "going after him for $$$", he SHOULD have directed his resentment at DHHS, and the state of Maine...NOT Trista Reynolds!

    It isn't like she got pregnant all by herself in the FIRST PLACE, mind you, but camp DiP decries the child-support ruling as "proof" that Trista "entrapped" Justin---as if "going after him" for child-support was her entire reason for HAVING Ayla to begin with, or something!!
    (Yeah..because, of that VAST DiPshit fortune, right???)
    :/

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      I think you are absolutely correct. More specifically, medical coverage for Ayla. It seems to me, I don't know this 100%, the Reynolds & Hansons were and are doing what was needed for thier families. Medical coverage is very high priced so it would reason she was forced to identify the father.

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    2. VTLady

      Perfectly said!!! And the attitude that Trista did something terrible to Justin is significant here! And people supporting that is just gross.

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    3. ITA VTLady! You too ms.p! How horrible! Someone expected Justin DiPietro to pay child support!? How dare they! The nerve! ;)

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    4. Anyone who complains about paying child support, whether they claim to have known about the child or not, is NOT a loving parent. Complaining about caring for your child is as low as you can get. If you claim you didn't know, well too bad. Man up and take care of your kid(s), NOW, that you know for sure. Do these people (not just Justin, because theres plenty others out there) know when they were possibly making a baby? Did they know they were having sex? Then 9 months later, oops, hey that girl has a baby... Maybe it's my baby? No, just deny, then complain about paying child support/back child support. That's real caring and loving. Then when they are forced to pay, they want some kind of an award for paying the bare minimum.

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    5. Maybe Justin should have just got some protection.
      Or didn't his Mommy or Heidi have that talk with
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  23. I have a question that has probably already been discussed. We now know Phoebe was not present the evening of the 16th. So with that in mind I can only think of three viable reasons she was present to give the CNN mis-interview

    a. she was called before LE
    b. they waited for her to get home before calling LE
    c. she actually was present and the clarification mis-interview was the lie

    How else could she have arrived before LE was on the scene? I ask because if a is the answer, why didn't JD also call Trista or her family?
    If b is the answer, they already knew Ayla was not with Phoebe, but they needed Phoebe to provide alibis. Or if c is the answer then that implies Phoebe was involved in much more than the planning.

    Unless I missed an article that had Phoebe arriving after LE got there. But then LE would have prevented her from the initial scene investigations I woud think.

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    1. Personally, I've always believed that Ayla was gone on or about Dec.8th, and Pheebs WAS home the night it occurred. For *whatever* the reason, it was pre-arranged for Pheebs to NOT be home the night of the "alleged abduction".
      But, WHY?

      Did she advise her demon-spawn in the disposal of Ayla and other aspects of the cover-up, but thought the "abduction scenario" JDiP and Courtney came up with was absurd, and wanted no part in it herself??
      Some *other* reason, maybe?
      IDK...
      I just feel Grandma Pheebs is in it *NECK DEEP*!
      JMO/MOO

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    2. VTLady, I completely agree about Grandma Pheebs. It's her house and I've read comments saying her kids were afraid of her, so she seems to rule the roost there. She also spun her cover story about being home on just a normal night until she was caught out and had to backtrack. I think too many people have been giving her a free pass and I also believe she was deliberately absent the night they chose for the "abduction". Could it be that she didn't want to jeopardize her government job and thought she'd be in the clear if she wasn't home? If so, her strategy seems to be working.

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    3. So both of you believe option c is the answer? I have to agree because as VTLady said, I think Ayla was harmed closure to the 8th than the 17th!

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    4. I agree too VTLady. And I agree with you Anon also. It could have been partly her job, but I think mostly, she just didn't want to be involved in Justin's "mess" TOO much. I'm sure she's involved quite a bit, but when it came time to get the ball rolling with LE, she didn't want to be viewed as guilty of ANYTHING. Plus maybe even her kids didn't want their mommy getting in legal trouble. Who would send their mom to prison?

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    5. Also, I think the DHHS/LE custody grab was ALL Phoebe. Her scheme, flat-out, start to finish!
      JMO/MOO

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    6. they asked People watched tv ,went to bed,normal night,yes ,um pretty much? what was the pretty much? Who left the house that night Phoebe?

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    7. Me too VTLady. There's no way Justin thought that up himself.

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    8. I dunno about Phoebe. She doesn't appear that bright to me. Maybe she's a good actress and can appear dithery and dipsy when she wants to, but the "real" Phoebe is has a tiger in her tank and planned the whole "snatch and grab" of Ayla and the cover-up of the "accident".

      Maybe Phoebe is smart only by comparison to the others involved. That's not saying a whole lot. And Pheebs total inadequacy was very early observed and quickly supplanted by Heidi Tudela, who THINKS she has the smarts to run things and run that family, now.

      Phoebe seems to be mere afterthought beside Heidi's CEO control of everything. You gotta wonder why Heidi is major-domo of two, and if you count Courney, of three households.

      I think LE must have known Pheebs whereabouts on the 16th...and when she gave her first "just a normal night" story to CNN about the 16th/17th, LE stopped her and said, "No way, Pheebs, we KNOW where you were." And she backtracked, also on CNN. What a debacle!

      At least I hope LE caught her in a lie and that's the reason why she had to backtrack. Of course, it could also be that Phoebe found out somebody not trustworthy also knows where she was that night and she thinks they might tell. Or, someone really in command, ordered Phoebe to backtrack as soon as possible knowing Phobe was putting the whole plan into chaos.

      So far Phoebe rather haughtily asserts that her whereabouts that night is only for her and LE to know! And LE was informed early on. If true, Phoebe must be insane to have given an interview with CNN lying about her whereabouts on the 16th!

      Where were you on "that night", Phoebe? Oh, come on, honey, spill!

      Not that many believe that the 16th is "the night".

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  24. If you do visit JSTL, you may want consider protection. Try Proxy.org

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    1. Just visiting? Or commenting?

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    2. I heard just commenting but Im not sure.

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  25. TY Kitty Kat. I was on there yesterday and they were looking up IP addys of persons who made posts.
    And posting the IP's.
    ....
    Anyway, with Justin, he was named as the Dad by the paternity tests. Ayla was about 7 months old. Then he saw her 5 ? 7 times until he took the opportunity when Trista went to treatment to have her full time and not want to give her back.
    Why didn't he file for visitation ? He would have been granted some, he had the legal right. He didn't want anyone from Trista's family around blah blah. Or did he have visitation and choose not to excerise it ?
    A person could file a motion for visitation very cheaply
    and do it without a lawyer.

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    1. I've been asking and wondering that for so long. I've come to the conclusion that he's special and doesn't need to go to court for custody/visitation. He was instructed that *now* was his chance to take Ayla, easily, while Trista was not able to fully and properly contest. It was an easy way around court. Simple as that.

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    2. Anon,

      This is the main reason I believe Phoebe came up with the grab idea for one purpose only, eliminate the child support that she had probably been paying on JD's behalf.

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  26. Well, he was up to date enuf on his child support where he didn't have his drivers taken. I read somewhere that he was paying the current , plus the arrears were split and added on to the current.
    ..
    I think they can capture your IP just visiting. I signed up for a proxy. Then I went to get one for right now, but I had to wait. Boring. Came here, Not boring.
    ..
    In case anyone is dying to know what is going on over there, it is :
    Trista is :
    x____________x Insert disrespectful term ( like mail merge )
    Jeff is :
    x___________x ditto.

    LOL, list of names, list of disrespectful terms, mix and match at random.

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    1. That's true about the drivers license. How much behind in ME do they have to be to take it? In MA it's 8 weeks, which I find ridiculous. They let a child go without, for about 2 months, before taking action.

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    2. Trista is a very strong woman
      Jeff is fighting for Answers for Ayla

      Don't suppose these options are on the list.

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    3. In Maine it's 12 weeks if you're paying nothing. You don't have to be current, just not 12 consecutive weeks in arrears.

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    4. I thought 8 weeks was bad...

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    5. They say license suspension after 8 weeks, 12 weeks whatever, but half the time nothing is done unless the person owed the money presses the issue.

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  27. I don't know what she has on over there for tracking. I belong to a crime blog , not WS, and there was a site meter we could visit and it gave alot of info, no names, but IP's locations, how long anyone was on for. Then, when it really got good in a certain case,(*peeps giving out specific info ) they tracked thru WHOIS who the IP belonged to. Yikes. And sent it to the authorities. More YIKES ! Thye are not doing this case, too bad, I would know how much toilet paper Justin is using a day.
    When I saw that yesterday, and we know they are nutz, with a capital N, this grandma was outta there for good.

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    1. That's CRAZY! Is that even legal? To be obtaining people's IP's? I know my way around a computer, but not the tech stuff. What can they get from your IP? If it is to report someone in a legal matter, I can see the good, but shouldn't LE just be notified and let them handle it? What type of personal info could they get from your IP? Enough to steal your identity?

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    2. Okay, so I am not exactly tech-savvy... What is an IP address? Why does it matter if someone knows it? What can they find out about me by having my IP?

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    3. An IP address in every day talk is similar to a mailing address. With IPv4 there are 4 numbers that look similar to 1.2.3.4

      The 1 would represent a state,
      the 2 the city in the state
      the 3 the street in the city
      the 4 the house on the street.

      It is much more complicated with IPv6 but that is a scaled down explanation. By having an IP address for individuals can lead to identity theft only if your system is not protected. They may know your virtual address on the web, but security on your system still has unique settings that are protecting you. That is of course you have network security turned-on (it is on normally unless you manually alter the settings).

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    4. an IP address is much like a fingerprint in that each address can only be used once. The advantage of the proxy mentioned is the proxy address is what is visible rather than your own IP.

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    5. That's a Road Runner address she has that was bought by Comcast.
      I'm not 100% sure but that is my general take on that static IP.
      I was teasing her yesterday about unplugging her modem and rebooting to get a different address. It would still be in a tight 257 or so block.

      When I go to various sites they always tell me what city I am from. I'm also on Comcast so I think the "its a proxy" is a bluff & hold. I have some hard core software from hacker pals I can reinstall.

      The owners identity is only as secure as the weakest Comcast employee in need.

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  28. I don't know about thr rest of you but I'm sick of waiting for the truth from the Dips.

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  29. She ( over at the Nutz place ) can grab your city and State. Plus you IP addy. Anywhere a person posts can do that. I don't know what else she could do. But seeing the track record, like I said, I can't even peek any more.
    I am just a fraidy kat. And I am not missing a thing am I ? Who's up next over there for the suspect du jour.

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  30. WOW. You really have no life. I know you wont actually let this post stay and I honestly do not care. These a living breathing people who have not been accused of any crime. Keep in mind Law Enforcement has cleared NO ONE not even your beloved Trista. To take these pictures for slander is wrong. To be a bitch just to be a bitch must make you feel better because that is all you have done from the beginning. Ayla is alive, stop referring to her as dead because doing so is disrespectful to BOTH families as well as Ayla. So many people keep forgetting this is about Ayla not the family. People need to stick to that and stop causing drama. Make this blog about finding Ayla and not bashing everyone who has a different opinion than your own. Ayla matters nothing else. Just wait for the day when she is found and all these people who you have slandered decided to sue you ignorant ass! I anxiously await that day!

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