Tuesday, April 24, 2012

The Story of How the Blood Came to Be and Other Lies



Since the release of blood being found in the home of Ayla Reynolds and even before and the confirmation that it was in fact Ayla's blood we have heard many explanations as to how the blood got there and to whom the blood belonged. It seems everyone that is vocal in supporting Justin DiPietro has come forward to claim it was either their blood or they knew how Ayla's blood came to be there. Not one account from each of these individual people match up. Why is that? If the blood has been explained by Justin and a plausible story has been given, why are there so many different accounts of how the blood got to be in the basement and whose blood it is? Is Justin telling each person a different story or are people who are trying to help Justin by coming to his defense only muddying the waters?





When Trista first learned of the blood in the basement she was on her way to The Bubbles and Balloon Vigil for Ayla organized by Bob Vear. Bob stated that he had first learned of the blood on 12/24. Sadly, Trista was not privy to this information until LE shared it with her the day of her daughter's vigil. Why wouldn't Justin tell Trista about the blood if it was unrelated and no big deal? In this video on YouTube you can hear Trista ask Justin about the blood and Justin tries to minimize its importance. They also went off to talk privately for about 10 minutes away from the cameras which one can only assume they were discussing the blood. Justin appears to be trying to reassure Trista.




Before LE announced the blood did in fact belong to Ayla, we were reassured by friends of Justin DiPietro that the blood was unrelated. Phoebe cut herself while doing laundry and that the blood was not even Ayla's. Selena commented that she has cut herself in that basement and it was likely her blood would be found there. Ayla scraped her ankled on the stairs. We have been told the drops of blood were at the foot of the stairs and in some claims the blood was actually on the stairs.

After LE confirmed it was Ayla's blood, the stories changed. Suddenly everyone remembered that Ayla did in fact hurt herself in the two months she lived with Justin. Justin was told of the presence of blood being found very early on. LE confirmed that there was not only blood visible to the naked eye but also blood found using Luminol. Enough blood that it was necessary to clean up. More blood than a small cut would produce. How come Justin only remembered about the blood and the clean up AFTER LE announced the blood was Ayla's? Why didn't Justin and friends just tell the truth from the beginning if Ayla really did get a minor injury that caused her blood to spill on the floor and need to be cleaned up if there was nothing to hide?  

Heidi Tudela maintained that there were only a few small drops belonging to Ayla from when Ayla cut herself and required a bandaid. LE has said there was more blood than a small cut would produce but that is her story and she is sticking to it. I give her credit for that at least. She is being consistent. I, personally, do not believe that a small cut on Ayla's foot, requiring only a bandaid is a reasonable explanation as to what really happened.




Selena has made more than one declaration on how the blood came to be in the basement, she has claimed it was her own blood (the comment was originally on Answers for Ayla but has since been removed)  and also claimed Ayla could have cut herself on moving boxes. She has made mention that a few kids bopping around in the basement could have caused a minor injury such as a nosebleed.


Selena JohnsonMar 2, 2012 08:32 AM
I think that all the above and the linnels should be taking a poly. Jessica...for sure. Linnels...for sure. The only thing that matters here is that LE knows the results.Tell me....your best guess...why wouldnt LE tell the public what Justins results were? To cause controversy.If he passed it would put Justin in a better light. If he didnt it would most certainly stir things up.By not telling....it leaves speculation and tells my family that LE doesnt give a crap about them. WHy isnt my family talking? You think the way they have been treated by LE makes them trust them.Blood spots...why no arrest? Why only put it out there on the day of the vigil? Yup to get reaction between the families.Both sides were there. I was made by media to read the news off a reporters blackberry while cameras were rolling.Jumped on as soon as they thought I was related. It matters about the blood but that wasnt embellished upon by LE either...why? More than a small cut...so it was a big cut? a nose bleed? Two or three kids boppin around down there playing? Of course its gonna be wiped up.Duh. I dont think I would leave blood on my floor either.Duh duh duh....but ooooOoOOoooOooOo dark and sinister.Would this stop them from looking elsewhere and in different directions?Would this give the media and the public the same mind set as them? Think...If they are smart they wouldnt stop at just the one scenario especially when there is other people with good motive to take her.Just sayin


Selena JohnsonApr 11, 2012 07:22 PM
How bout looking at this scenario:
1.)AYLA WAS taken from the house.
2.)Justin is innocent of any wrong doing.
3.)The decision that Justin is guilty by LE, happened when they took the luminol test and a swab test of what looks like dried blood. The swab turns colors positive for blood. (Lots of glow and smear from cleaning)
* AYLA could very possibly cut herself from a box of moving crap. AYLA was 20 months old then, she would be into everything.*
4.)If she got into things and cut herself while helping Daddy, perhaps Daddy would leave her with a sitter when he went to Portland to get the rest of his stuff. Hang out with his roomies and buds.
5.)luminol glows from lots of things: detergent, bleach, cleaners,metals,poop,pee and so on and so on.
6.) When was the decision that AYLA wasn’t taken and it was a criminal investigation? ((Timing is very important in all of this!!!)) Was it before they got their tests back?? Did LE think the smearing of detergents was more blood than it really was?
7.) They wouldn’t be lying if they said they found blood and it was AYLA’S and in the basement? How much blood? Not having all the tests back how the hell would they know?
8.)Straight face crap in media... feelings here if you are innocent?
9.) Having the public screaming for you to talk and calling you guilty cause you are not saying anything because LE doesn’t want you to.
10).LE telling Phoebe not to tell the public who was in the house that night because it could mess up the investigation.
11.) Phoebe, not knowing what to say when asked that question stumbles through it by lying. Phoebe after the interview tells them that it was a lie and why. The media deciding that it makes for a better story and posts the lie first instead of editing . LE didn’t back Phoebe up with a statement but let her swing.(Feelings about media and LE at this point??? )
12.) Next headline for media…GRANNY LIES!! BUT RECANTS HER STATEMENT!! (think ratings and viewers)( Feelings about media at this point??? ) Think.
13.) The basement looked clean and washed. Courtney is company. The basement would have been cleaned for her. If I were moving into the basement, I would clean before I got my stuff there.
14.) LE made the decision that it is a criminal investigation. LE pushes the investigation in the direction that someone in the house did something and are not telling them everything.(foul play) The decision that was based on swabs and photographs of anything that reacts with luminol, before tests came back…All this pushes the public ‘s opinion. The public now stops looking for AYLA alive.
15.)LE’s statement that AYLA’S blood in the basement turns into…”Splatters” of AYLA’S blood by media…NOT LE. Media used that word first . (wow…who trusts media and LE after these things just keep snowballing??)
16.) While all this is going on…Jessica announces bruises and abuse. The snowball effect happens in this direction as well. WTH??
Maybe what is so messed up is…Justin, Courtney and Elisha were telling the truth. They don’t have any more to give LE because that is EXACTLY what happened. There was no abuse . AYLA’S arm was broken on a rainy night when Justin slipped while carrying her in with groceries. LE has checked out the broken arm!! They have said it WAS an accident. Doc didn’t see it unreasonable that the arm didn’t look broken to begin with .Discoloring and swelling until the next day was reasonable to the doctor. He NEVER filled out paperwork saying that he thought it was abuse….

They woke up and AYLA was gone. Period

Im tired of tapping keys.What do you think? Possible?

As of yesterday there is now another explanation as to how Ayla's blood got in the basement. This anonymous poster claims Justin has explained the blood and that Ayla cut herself on the hearth. I have not seen this anywhere else and find it extremely unbelievable. From the pictures Selena released of Ayla in the home on 29 Violette Ave. there is no indication of the presence of a hearth anywhere in the home and if there were a hearth in the living room where fireplaces usually are, how did her blood end up in the basement?  

AnonymousApr 21, 2012 06:56 PM
Justice for Ayla: Justin has answered when and why Ayla was bleeding.

He has said that she was walking barefoot on a hearth and that she had a cut on her heel/foot. It is in line with the amount of blood that was found to actually be Ayla's.

What is NOT determined is whether the other "blood evidence" that lit up with luminol was actually blood and was actually Ayla's.

Trista has not told us about her whereabouts the night Ayla went missing. How come that question has always been off limits? Who's the one hiding stuff?

Where is Ayla? Who had reason to take her? Who didn't want Justin to have her? Who asked for Justin to sign over his parental rights? Whose sister told Justin that he needn't bother to come pick her up when Trista went into rehab? Whose family is incredibly dysfunctional (has had children taken by state, has arrests, drug and alchohol problems, and despite their dysfunctionality felt that Trista was more so and wouldn't allow Trista to stay with them in their homes...even after Ayla went missing?) Whose family, per Trista's texts to Justin in January, told her that her break down wasnt' their problem?

None of that makes any sense. Let's keep the questioning in the direction it's going now. Maybe the half a million dollars will prove to have been a waste of money.



Jeff Hanson released information about the blood that was told to Trista and Jeff by LE. They announced that LE informed them the day of the Bubbles and Balloons Vigil in Waterville that the amount of the blood found was equal to more than a cupful of blood. They also announced that the blood was found next to Justin's bed in the basement and not by the stairs as previously stated by friends of Justin. Supporters of Justin have denied this. They have attacked Jeff's credibility, speculated that LE is inept at their jobs and could not differentiate between blood and other fluids such as cat urine, bleach, and other cleaning agents. They continue to claim that not all of the blood was Ayla's and that it was Lance's blood from such and such an injury, or Phoebe's or Elisha's... 


Why is it that no matter what is released by LE or Trista's side of the family or even the media that there is always some mistake, some excuse, some error on the part of the person releasing the info that is shedding the DiPietros in a bad light with fingers pointing directly towards them being guilty in whatever happened to Ayla? 

First we hear that Ayla had injuries while in Justin's care, ranging from bruises to a pulled leg muscle to a broken bone. None of this is Justin's fault. It was Trista's fault for allowing Ayla to go there. Trista was lying because she did not bring Ayla to the doctor's soon enough...

Ayla went missing while in Justin's care, no one saw or heard anything. There was no evidence of an abduction. Police suspect foul play and announce that they do not believe that those in the house that night are telling LE the whole truth. Again none of this is on Justin's shoulders. To hear his side tell it, LE didn't seal off the house until the second week so crucial evidence could have been planted by a dirty police officer or again shoddy police work which caused evidence to be compromised.


D M   Ok, my websleuthing has another question sorry gals u know I love you. The home was or any evidence was contaminated from Dec 17th to Dec 23rd from what I have found, the AG's office and the MSP detective did put on gloves and booties. http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Police-downplay-activity-at-home.html?searchterm=Ayla+Reynolds. Now, after this and on December 27th Police stated they still believed Ayla was kidnapped, http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57348647-504083/missing-maine-toddler-ayla-reynolds-was-kidnapped-police-say/ So when did she become kidnapped to unkidnapped? And did this 6 day period that the DiPietros were put out of the home time for the abductor to plant evidence? What do you think girls? Am I crazy?

DM  Before they put up the tape, I saw many pictures on the news of the house being empty with no police presence at all. If in fact the police believed themselves, why did they not have a detective in the home 24/7 just in case there was a ranson or demand phone call?

D M  I am trying to establish that the home could very easily have had evidence planted during the first 6 days, and after all they would have need Ayla to obtain blood to plant. Correct?


D M  What I don't understand is why the damn house wasn't sealed off from Day 1. Obviously any of the possible scenarios in this case would have evidence in that home. So for the police to be traipsing in and out without protective gear in my opiion was irresponsible at the very least.

Justin didn't speak to the media for two weeks after Ayla went missing, that wasn't his fault. LE told him not to. Trista claimed he wouldn't return her calls or texts until January. He spoke out early on and said she was lying. Justin leaked the text messages from Trista to another blog, the date of the first message released was mid January. It backs up what Trista has said all along. According to Phoebe, Justin was told by LE not to contact Trista. Trista says LE claims they never told Justin that. Since we know that Trista has been honest about when contact with Justin started up again after Ayla went missing and even have Justin's own text messages to prove that, why should we believe Justin over what Trista says? 

Justin claimed he was working with the Laura Recovery Center in an effort to get Ayla home. Cynthia Caron who is the founder of Lost N Missing, who is working with the Reynolds family in conjunction with the Laura Recovery Center sent an email to all of us here stating that Justin never returned their calls and has not been working with them since the Bubbles and Balloons Vigil. Should we believe Justin over Cynthia Caron?

LE claims contact with the DiPietros has ceased and that they are no longer communicating with LE, Justin claims this is not true. Why would LE lie? What reasons would Justin have to lie? In a recent article in the Morning Sentinel, Justin and Phoebe pretty much insult LE and call them liars. Why would they be anything but gracious to the people who are working tirelessly to bring Ayla home? 

Excerpt from the Morning Sentinel article Where is My Daughter?

Public statements
Justin DiPietro contended that McCausland's most recent statements are among several inaccurate ones by investigators.
DiPietro cited a January statement by McCausland that there were three adults and two children in the house the night before Ayla was reported missing, which McCausland later clarified to say there were three children in the home, "two besides Ayla."
"That's a little detail that they're getting wrong at the beginning of this investigation, so how many other things?" he said.
His mother added, "I think Mr. McCausland is very full of himself, and he should check his facts before he goes out and makes statements.

So why should we believe anything Justin has said about the blood evidence, either directly or through friends and family? Why should we not believe Trista and Jeff when they claim that LE told them it was more than a cupful of blood and that it was found by Justin's bed? Why should we not believe that some blood missed the attempted clean up and more blood was found that was not visible to the naked eye? Why should we believe it was only 3-4 small drops? Why should be believe any of the explanations given as to how the blood got there and whose blood it is? Why should we believe Justin when he claims that someone abducted Ayla from the house in the middle of the night while everyone was sleeping and that no one heard a thing, no one saw a thing and that no evidence was left behind? Not one minuscule piece of DNA. Not a fiber, a strand of hair, not a partial fingerprint? Why should we believe anything Justin says period?










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159 comments:

  1. "DM" was very careful not to be specific about who she suspected planted the evidence. But I think we all know who DM is, and I have seen her full tirades about this, and she's talking about the maternal family. "DM" is just spouting more of her anti-mother nonsense. Anything can be spun to look like anything if you have your beliefs set firmly in your mind. This is "DM's" issue.

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    1. Does this DM character honestly think a maternal side family member could get into the house to plant blood evidence, and then clean it up after the police had had control of the house. DM needs to come into reality.

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    2. This article is false and misleading. LE has only said that they regard SOME of the blood spots in the basement as Ayla's blood. LE has NEVER said that they regard ALL of the blood in the basement as Ayla's.

      LE's use of the word "SOME" indicates that they did not view all of the so-called blood as Ayla's.

      There is no evidence whatsoever that LE has ever said that more than a cupful of AYLA'S blood was found in the basement. If someone ever really did tell Jeff Hanson that "more than a cupful" of blood was in the basement, the most likely explanation is that the speaker was referring to the entire area that LE regarded as "blood" due to the Luminol hit, and not specifically to the amount of blood established to be Ayla's blood.

      Steve McCausland was on Nancy Grace AFTER the balloon vigil and he indicated that testing was still being done on the area of the invisible stain they regarded as blood. So since McCausland was indicating that the testing had not yet been completed after the vigil, that contradicts Jeff Hanson's claims that LE had ALREADY determined by the day of the balloon vigil that a large area of blood of Ayla's had been found--more than a cupful.

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    3. Anon 10:38

      Your point is mute, IMO. I am not trying to be rude but realistic.

      The FACT that no-one from LE refuted telling Jeff/Trista a quanity more than "significant" or "more than a small cut would produce" indicates truthfulness by Jeff/Trista.

      The fact that even as you say "the most likely explanation is that the speaker was referring to the entire area that LE regarded as "blood" due to the Luminol hit". Remember Ayla was there 50 days, minus whatever time Justin had her in Portland or wherever. So how does a childs blood get spilled to create a Luminol Hit that size in less than 50 days. Regardless of the cup, 1/2 cup, two tablespoons, whatever, why did they not bring Ayla to seek medical attention?
      For these two reasons, your point is mute.

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    4. Basically anon, realize that the specific amount is very important, it is not the bigger issue! The bigger issue is why no medical treatment???

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    5. DM ,are you that desperate to find Justin innocent,you have lost your mind.You are suggesting she went in the house twice and didnt leave any evidence,and put blood there? Come On,back off your meds a little DM.

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    6. DM asks if she is crazy,Do you really want anyone to answer that DM? WACKADOO

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    7. This article contains an interview with McCausland the day AFTER the balloon vigil in which he says that testing of the area LE believed to be blood was STILL ONGOING. So since testing was still ongoing, that is inconsistent with the claim by Jeff Hanson that it had already been determined by the day of the balloon vigil that more than a cup of Ayla's blood had been found.

      Others have posted on the Internet that there was some blood found that was visible to the naked eye that was about the size of 4 tiny dots the size of pen tips that was determined to be Ayla's blood. Those are probably the samples that McCausland was talking about when he said that SOME of the samples were Ayla's blood.

      No reliable source has ever said that ALL of the area LE regarded as a blood stain or stains had been determined to be Ayla's blood.

      As for the question of why no medical treatment in light of the samples confirmed to be Ayla's blood, I can only surmise that the amount of blood lost was so tiny that medical treatment was unnecessary--consistent with a minor typical cut a toddler would get running around a basement.

      http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/29/news/mid-maine/aylas-blood-confirmed-among-samples-taken-from-fathers-home/

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    8. "No reliable source has ever said that ALL of the area LE regarded as a blood stain or stains had been determined to be Ayla's blood."

      "was about the size of 4 tiny dots the size of pen tips that was determined to be Ayla's blood. Those are probably the samples that McCausland was talking about"

      I think you are making an asumption just like you are accusing us of doing. What is the difference between your first statement above, and the assumption you are making in the second statement about McCausland. If you claim our logic to be presumptive, then you must admit yours is also presumptive.

      As for your explanation of the no medical treatment, does not fly based on logic. For a blood stain visible by luminol that was cleaned up means that the blood pooled somewhat. Any cut that produces any kind of pooling by my children would have been treated by medical professionals.

      And I have read your posted article several times, but thank you for posting it. I agree what was said and when. I am not arguing that FACT. What I am saying is the preponderance of actions and statements by LE tells me the amount of blood was closer to what Jeff/Trista said than what Hiedi said.

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    9. What? We can't say Dale Morse? AKA CrazyPants. Does anyone seriously read her insanity anymore? You need to take Acid to be able to read her BS for it to make sense.

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    10. Seriously, as soon as I see her initials or name, I bypass her craziness. You require Electric Shock Therapy after reading her posts. Dale cares NOTHING about Ayla. She is the evil equivelent of the Blog from Hell.

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    11. ANON 10:38. Just to refesh, this is from Jeff over at Answers for Ayla:
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      In Augusta, before the Vigil (1/28/12), MSP told Trista and Becky (I was not in the room) that Justin had told them that the blood in question was caused by a cut on Ayla's foot and that "it was more than a small cut would produce".

      After the Vigil (when I was with Becky and Trista) MSP reiterated for me about the small cut. When I asked how much more, one of the State Investigators replied "more than a cupful".
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      Please note ANON 10:38 that the question and answer is ONLY regarding Ayla. Do you seriously think that LE was telling Jeff "oh, Ayla's blood was scant...someone else really bled out in that basement." Interesting, too, that it was JUSTIN who offered up the "more than a small cut would produce." So much for those four tiny droplets.

      You might recall that the discovery and amount of Ayla's blood was "troublesome" according to McCausland. Something tells me Ayla needed more than a hug and a "Hello Kitty" bandaid when she bled.

      Let me guess, ANON 10:38. Ayla and Gabbie went at it with each other armed with boxcutters? Yeah, that's it!

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    12. @The Bride- I figured I would only use her initials so I didn't get more threats of a lawsuit lol. I assumed most readers would know who she was but I apologize to those who did not pick up on the initials and the crazy statements. The statements came from the secret TTLOM group. :)

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    13. What police were saying did not have to mean they did not know how much of Ayla's blood was estimated to be there. There may have been other people's blood there and they may not have identified whose; they may have had blood in various locations within the basement and identified some of it as all Ayla's while not identifying whether any of it from other locations was Ayla's. They could very well have known that at least a cup of Ayla's blood was shed, consistent with their statement.

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    14. Thats right Jeff never said All the blood was Ayla.

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    15. Anon @ 1038

      Could you please post a link that features LE's statements directly quoted in referring to "some " of the blood being Ayla's and some as being identified as belonging to someone else.

      Thanks!

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    16. And anon 2:08 & 2:30, you missed the part about Ayla being in the house less than 50 days total. How in the hell can a child spill a cupful of blood around a house in 50 days, when Gabby and Ayden had been there for years. And how many times was her blood spilled in less than 50 days if it was not from one instance? And don't even say that my statement is sick to say that, your inability to see all the facts is why I am bringing up the other children in that house.

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    17. Oh sry J4, I didn't realize. :)

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    18. Anon 2:08- I agree. We are assuming that LE found only two area's of blood. I know that if you checked my bedroom alone, you would find a few different spots of blood. I have two teenage boys, one that like the skate board. I'm going to agree also that LE would not tell Trista that they found more than a cup of Ayla's blood with out knowing all that blood is Ayla's. On top of that, they may have found some spots in other places that they do not know who it belongs to.

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    19. I should add, that although my son likes his skate board, Im sure that no one would find a cup of blood anywhere in my house...

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    20. If more than a cup of Ayla's blood was found in the DiPietro home, or basement, Justin would be in jail.
      That's just common sense.

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    21. Anon 6:52

      No it is not common sense. It is smart by police when 3 possibly 4 adults in the house, how can they arrest anyone when it could have been anyone in the house? That is common sense!

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    22. I haven't read all comments yet, but I agree with PB. LE would not tell the Mother of a missing baby that they found over a cup of her babys blood, without knowing for sure it is hers. I believe LE must have, at that time, known for sure, that (over a cupfull) was Ayla's blood, but there was even more samples (of blood or even something else) that were not done with testing yet.

      ***Yes, I understand LE did not confirm or deny the amount of blood, but I believe Jeff/Trista, due to LE setting past lies straight***

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  2. I believe Jeff's account that MSP leaked the "more than a cupful" remark to him.

    It ain't too cool to put words into the mouths of the MSP, especially such a damning remark. If Jeff exaggerated or fabricated the remark, he would have blown all credibility and Answers for Ayla would be a hoax.

    The MSP would have to clarify or refute that the statement was ever made to Jeff. LE is not going to allow themselves to be named the source of such an oulandish and reckless rumor. It would reflect very badly on the MSP to "plant" such an incriminating statement if it were not true. Jeff knows the officer who told him about the amount of blood...this isn't hearsay.

    "More than a cupful" may not be fatal, but it is surely dangerous. Ayla would have been in shock, yet no ambulance was summoned and no medical treatment was sought.

    And lets not forget Justin's own prophetic words..."Ayla did not meet her demise down in the house."

    My eyebrow is now twitching involuntarily.

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    1. mckeekitty, I agree. Furthermore, I think Justin's statement about Ayla's demise is a great example of the "parallel lying" theory. I always thought the word "down" in that statement was out of place. It's not uncommon for people in that area to say "I'm going down to Portland..." since Portland is South of Waterville. Also, PD's house wasnt' his. In his mind, his home was in Portland.

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    2. Great thoughts, girls. I agree.

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    3. So true Kitty. MSP has refuted absolutely nothing the maternal family has released! They have however, refuted several paternal family comments and statements. Who would I believe, damned right the maternal family.

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    4. The way MSP handled the blood issue gives/gave me a lot of confidence about their set in stone desire to proceed against Justin. Put yourself in their shoes. Your sure Justin killed Ayla and you intend on proving it. Then a balloon vigil is organized and who else but the prime suspect shows up looking to get dodgy about the facts. So a vital personal witness is given some information to alert them to the possibility of the suspects vile motives for attending. It was the correct strategic move on MSP part to let a key witness for the prosecution know that this is far more serious than the suspect wants people to believe.

      It also would suck if she "mysteriously" disappeared!!!

      On the one hand they don't want to upset Trista on the other hand she is staring the killer in the face. So they reveal a fact that disputes Justin's "Sasquatch Is The Kidnapper" theory.
      Now Super Jessica & Terrible Trista are the theory of the month.

      It was a reasonable tactic by LE.

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  3. Most would not believe the MSP and LE would lie to people. Why would they fabricate stories? They wouldn't. So that only leaves the other party to be the one not telling the truth. Not hard to figure out. The other party is trying to keep making excuses, more versions of the story. It takes alot of nerve to call authorities liars, doesn't it? When are you ready for the TRUTH TO BE KNOWN AND OUT THERE, JUSTIN??? When is it going to be time? NEVER. He will not...ever.

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    1. Well, I can't live in Colorado and say that LE does not lie to people. They can, have and will lie to suspects, family members and the media in order to spur information for the investigation. It is not illegal to do so.

      The question is, unless all evidence points to Justin, what reason would they have to lie to Trista about Justin, if what they are really trying to do is elicit information to place suspicion on her?

      I think we will all agree in most high media cases, LE starts out broad and vague, then narrow down their statements.

      First possible kidnapping. Then, no possible kidnapping, blood and foul-play. Now we are faced with the LIP. I think that LE would have probably held onto the blood evidence and released the LIP first if it hadn't been leaked.

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    2. G4A and SoTX

      I agree whole heartedly! LE is releasing information to the family they believe to be victims in this tragedy. They would not release this to the perps for any reason. This is very telling IMO

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    3. LE has to walk a fine line with that Grace4Ayla. To plant and permit a fabrication to grow legs, sway public opinion, and let it go-unchecked is a strong basis for libel. Sure, LE can play dirty, but to toss a family under the bus isn't permissable.

      Lets not forget that the Dips had their windows bashed out, and Heidi reported that Justin was receiving death threats (I doubt the latter). Still, LE cannot start fires in an effort to flush out the suspects without being held accountable for a possible backlash.

      "More than a cup of blood" coming out of the mouth of LE had better be true, because it sure as hell is incriminating. It goes beyond playing dirty...it is reckless and irresponsible.

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    4. mckeekitty, I agree with you. When LE does "lie" to the public, it is usually only to get a response from the perp and never to hurt the family. I was witness to the Tim Masters fiasco here in Colorado, thru the media, so I know it happens. Sometimes they aren't even right. Like in the Masters case. Im tired. I hope that makes sense. LOL

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    5. Oh, I'm sure you're tired, Grace. How wonderful Ayla has such a tireless crusader fighting for her all the way from CO!

      I'm not familiar with the Tim Masters case...I'll need to bone up on it.

      Again, LE plays dirty...that I agree with. But LE's remark that there was more "than a cup of blood" is equivalent to saying they found a bullet casing in that basement...it doesn't bode well for Ayla.

      I hate to think LE deliberately allowed such a comment to spread to the media if it didn't have a ring of truth to it.

      Again, Ayla has a true friend in you!

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    6. I saw that sweet face and read her story and thought there for the grace of god go I. Maybe I was meant to go through those years of hell because she needs me to fight for her. I like to think we are all here for a reason. She is the spitting image of me when I was that age. Right before I was kidnapped.

      Thank you for your kind words. Ayla and readers like you make it worth it.

      Grace Wilson

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  4. We wonder so often why heidi would risk everything for justin. I think her statement above answered our questions..."and to those who think I am naive or stupid for standing by my friend. I say, if it was your friend or YOUR VERY OWN CHILD I ask you what would you do............I think she answers our question about derek's involvement....

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    1. That's a good observation, heartbroken. Dang!

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    2. Yes...an excellent observation!

      Heidi and Derek are knee-deep in this ca-ca. Heidi monopolized that now "famous" interview and no doubt told Justin just to nod on cue. Heidi isn't protecting Justin...she's protecting Derek.

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    3. You ladies nailed this one on the head. No doubt HT would place ehr family in so much peril for a non-blood-relative.

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    4. Do they own a hearth? DOES ANYONE OWN A DAMN HEARTH IN THE 21st century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????

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    5. Maybe they are running out of OUTLANDISH excuses??? Quick, come up with another answer for yet another question! And MSP, LE,FBI-all trying to frame them! JD is a legend in his own mind.

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    6. Well, yeah, Like a fireplace or under a wood stove which are common in Maine as a primary heat source but more often as a back up for power outages.

      I have not seen a picture of the dips house where it includes a fireplace and if they say a cut from a hearth it must be in the basement.

      I remember someone on TLLOM sayin Justin told them the blood came from a scrape she got while playing on the cellar stairs.

      How many frigging excuses can one come up with!!!??
      I wonder with a sickening feeling, if a woodstove plays a part here....

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    7. I can't figure out who "Selena" is protecting--and have some serious doubts about the validity of her anyway. I think a fake "Selena", maybe another of the DP clan, to comment away, to their heart's content. How would she have all the info she has if she is not close to the family? Why would she be doing it? And how perfect for "her", that blog was setup. How the hell would ANY of those aunts know about the "4 drops of blood". That is not even worth mentioning. You barely get that amount of blood from a finger lancet for a glucometer. Any parent would remember almost all accidents at home where they cleaned up blood. Do these idiots in this family realize how much blood a cup is? A unit of blood, per blood bank, used for blood transfusion, is same amount-250mls=1 cup. A bunch of blood for a little kid. More like pools of it. They think LE is stupid, they can say, oh! she scratched her heel on THE HEARTH!

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    8. Maybe selena is trying to protect herself? Regardless the woman is off her rocker and seeking attention. LE may pay her a visit.

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    9. Chicky, I just meant that the rest of the free world calls it a fireplace.

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  5. I am a young dad too. Justin didn't like who he had a baby with maybe he should have have been a little more concerned with whom he had sex with. Justin is a POS who needs to grow TFU. Nobody wants to have real responsibilities, but we have to as soon as you turn 18. Seriously I follow this case because I have 1 year old son and am sick of hearing about dead/kidnapped babies everyday in the news. Since this case started all I've heard from his side are f***ing excuses that keep changing when the LE releases new information. All you hear from him and his supporters are excuses,excuses, excuses. Who are you honesley going to believe? That the Maine State Police, The FBI, and local LE are in a big conspiracy trying to frame a unknown 24 year old, unemployed, OxyContin-pot smoking-alcoholic-addict for no reason. I doubt it. Everyday they have some new bulls**t excuse that they try to meld with " their version of the truth". I wish there was a way to get them to talk legally because behind all the blog wars and bullsh**t and excuses is a missing baby. Not a little girl a baby. NickSmith

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    1. I agree wholeheartedly, Nick. Your comment gave me goosebumps; thanks for sharing.

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    2. Me too NickSmith, well I'm a young mother. I have a 2 year old girl who looks so much like Ayla it's uncanny. If we lived in Maine, I would probably have been questioned by police. But it makes me sick to think of a parent harming their defenseless little baby when they should be loving and nurturing and teaching them. My baby is so much fun. Yes, sometimes she can be difficult, but that's part of it. I love her through it all, and I would lay down my life without a moments hesitation to keep her from harm. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? And, btw, JUSTIN, WHERE IS AYLA?

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    3. I, too, agree wholeheartedly with you Nick. Did you have a chance to see the video posted ^^^ above when Trista whispers the question to Justin asking him about the blood the MSP found in his mom's basement? His response sickened me...He blewjust blew it off and poor Trista, of course, not wanting it to be true, just stands there. It's a goddamn tragedy! Justin is blowin this off just like he blows everything else in his life that he doesn't wanna deal with.

      Justin, you might be able to blow off bills, girls, jobs and even your mamma but hell will freeze over before the people of Maine will let you "blow off" Ayla Bell Reynolds!! Your day of reckoning WILL come and you WILL be forced to face the consequences of your evilness.

      Praying for you dear sweet baby, Ayla Bell

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  6. The first video at the Vigil when Trista asked Justin about the blood; is his reaction not telling-enough?

    During the only comments Justin delivered at the same Vigil, when he stated they weren't there to answer questions and Trista finished his statement that they were there for Ayla, did you notice how she worded it enough to end as a question TO JUSTIN for him to agree that they're there to support Ayla?

    Her face, her words, and the very process with which Trista directed it towards Justin is very telling to me. Justin's lack of emotion and words is equally as telling. Trista is filled with guilt and misery; you can see that--Justin is filled with nothing...you can see that too.

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    1. JMH,
      ITA 100% especially when she completed the sentenced, it was like she was reminding him her name was Ayla.
      But I also detected a few spots where she would look down to the ground when speaking to Justin, trying to play on his masculinity to get him talking.

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    2. Talk about pain and restraint from Trista!!! I don't know how she got through that vigil. Justin just does not even pretend to care about Ayla, at least that I can tell. MOO

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  7. OT but brought up before - Kennebec County Grand Jury is in session May 9-11.
    http://www.courts.state.me.us/maine_courts/schedules/regionalschedules/2ndQt2012RegIV.pdf
    Since it's secret proceedings, the only way we will know if this case was presented is if there was an indictment handed down. Not sure how long we'd have to wait to hear that but I assume it would be quickly.

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    1. Really? I don't understand this well, I assumed the would have to be an arrest first. No?

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    2. Hope This Helps...April 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM

      The Grand Jury

      If a criminal case has not been, downgraded, diverted or dismissed, the prosecutor will present the case to a grand jury for an indictment. The grand jury is composed of a group of citizens who have been selected from voter registration, drivers license and tax lists. The grand jury considers evidence presented by the county prosecutor and determines if there is sufficient evidence to formally charge defendants and require them to respond to the charge(s). An indictment is not a finding of guilt. Generally, neither the accused nor their attorneys are present. Witnesses normally testify regarding the crime. After considering evidence, if a majority of the 23 jurors vote to indict defendants, they must face further criminal proceedings. The return of an indictment is called a true bill. If a majority finds the evidence to be insufficient to indict, the grand jury enters a no bill and the charge(s) are dismissed. The jury may, however, decide to charge defendants with a less serious offense, to be downgraded or remanded to the municipal court. The accused must appear in municipal court to face a disorderly persons or petty disorderly persons charge.

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      The Indictment Process

      If a criminal case has not been downgraded, diverted, dismised, or pled out the prosecutor will present the case to a grand jury for an indictment. The grand jury is composed of a group of citizens who have been selected from voter registration lists. It is their civic duty to serve. They consider evidence presented by the county prosecutor and determine if there is sufficient evidence to formally charge the defendant and oblige him to respond to the charge(s). The indictment is not a finding of guilt or a conviction. Neither the accused or his attorney are present. Witnesses may testify regarding the crime. Defendants may testify, however, if they are requested to attend and elect to surrender their right against self incrimination as guaranteed by the constitution. After considering the prosecutor's evidence and the testimony of witnesses, if a majority of the 23 jurors vote to indict the defendant, he must face further criminal action. This finding is a true bill that triggers further proceedings in the Criminal Superior Court. If a majority finds the evidence to be insufficient to indict, the grand jury enters a no bill and the charge(s) are dismissed. The jury may, however, decide to charge the defendant with a less serious offense, to be heard in municipal court. In this instance, the offense has been downgraded or remanded. The accused must appear in municipal court to face a disorderly persons or petty disorderly persons charge.

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    3. Thank you Hope this Helps.

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    4. Very interesting. Thanks for the info!

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  8. J4A:
    "Justin, when you went to the basement to sleep with Courtney and her son, and left Ayla upstairs in a room alone... did you THINK you were RESPECTING Ayla's needs?"

    Justin:
    "Wait. Ayla had needs??"
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    1. @VTLady: Justin's response to the question is so spot-on; I actually half-giggled only because you took the words out of my mind. Good one.

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    2. I have a lot more of the respect questions for Justin courtesy of Ms.Peridot19. I think she asked some great ones and I can't wait to use them in future posts.

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    3. Oh, she absolutely DID have a ton of great "respect" questions, in her post on that previous thread!
      I noticed she left the Anon-troll dumbstruck, as it failed to respond, too...
      ;)

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    4. Thank You J4A you did such a great job! And I second JMH's comment VTLady! I so appreciate you all, very smart decent ladies! :)

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  9. DM says "And did this 6 day period that the DiPietros were put out of the home time for the abductor to plant evidence? What do you think girls? Am I crazy?"

    Lolz yeah the abductor went back and planted evidence! Haha you are crazy!!

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    1. Seriously!
      Not ONLY does [Aunt Selena] insinuate that the "real abductors" went BACK to the crime scene---left sloppily "unsecured" by LE's elite "Keystone Cop" task force---
      she goes ON to deduce that it HAD TO HAVE BEEN the "real" abductors of Ayla who planted the evidence.
      "WHY" you ask?? Because: ONLY THE ABDUCTOR would've had an "AYLA" to drain a cup of blood out of, IN ORDER to plant in the DiP basement, upon returning to the scene of their crime,
      Of course!

      Crazy??
      "Anon"...You're about a half-step away from sporting a tinfoil hat.
      I'd start stocking up on the Reynolds Wrap now.

      Heh..
      Scratch that.
      Perhaps "Reynolds Wrap" would be a BAD choice for aluminum headdress material (we wouldn't want "the enemy" intercepting those brain-waves, now..)
      The store brand's always cheaper, anyway!
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    2. Sorry, I know the post was attributed to Dale...but, something about these two theory ending comments, posed by the two commentators, strikes me as "similar":

      SJ- "Im tired of tapping keys.What do you think? Possible?"
      ~vs~
      DM- "What do you think girls? Am I crazy?"

      If one was planning to "test the waters" with an outlandish conspiracy theory, whom better to post as than DALE??
      I have my suspicions..

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    3. VT Lady that's pretty funny but also an apt observation...

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    4. water(testing) extinguishes fire(starters).

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    5. I have to say it, OMG! LOL
      VTLady, wow, I think you are on to something there!

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  10. Justin DiPietro contended that McCausland's most recent statements are among several inaccurate ones by investigators.
    DiPietro cited a January statement by McCausland that there were three adults and two children in the house the night before Ayla was reported missing, which McCausland later clarified to say there were three children in the home, "two besides Ayla."
    "That's a little detail that they're getting wrong at the beginning of this investigation, so how many other things?" he said.
    His mother added, "I think Mr. McCausland is very full of himself, and he should check his facts before he goes out and makes statements.

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    What I find most laughable is the last sentence wherein Phoebe accuses McCausland (who by the way, has done more to help try and find Ayla than any of the DiP family combined) of being full of himself and needing to check his facts before making public statements.

    One could suggest Phoebe should consider checking herself as well. I am unable to forget the whole "I was home/regular night/we went to bed" morphing into "nevermind, I was mistaken, I was not there that night at all"

    Methinks people in glass houses . . .

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    1. You got me to chuckle TLCox! Can you finish the last line though, I don't know what comes next! Oh wait, I remember now, can I retract that last part please?

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    2. tlcox how about a Freudian slip by McCauseland? There were only 2 children in the house that night, the kidnapping was faked and Ayla was long gone. But publicly they are going with the story of 3 babies in the house so he "corrected" his statement.

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    3. Interesting, Anon at 2:17pm - That may well explain his slip about the number of babies. If McCausland was still attempting to play the good cop (family cooperating, etc) at the time he was making that statement but already had reason to believe all three adults present were liars, this would totally explain that inconsistency. Nice catch.

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    4. Anon,

      Did you think maybe, just maybe, McCausland knew that Ayla was missing before the 17th and did not want the DiPietros to know what MSP knew. Just asking?

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    5. I recall McCausland stating that LE was going on the "presumption" of the December 16/17 timeline in accorrdance with the 911 call. IMO, that leaves room that LE considers Ayla may have disappeared earlier.

      I'm convinced Ayla disapperared prior to December 16. Trista last spoke with Ayla on December 8, and Ayla missed her December 12 doctor appointment.

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    6. I agree kitty. The scenario I wrote up has Ayla being harmed on the 9th. I have had this write-up for a few weeks know and it helps me to keep track of events. I can go in and modify the involved parties and sequences of events as we learn new information.

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  11. hmmmm.............
    https://twitter.com/#!/juststopthelie
    https://www.myspace.com/583848959

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    1. that is one ugly bitch. i wonder if it's her?
      http://startthelies.blogspot.ca

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  12. Why so many camp-DiP versions regarding the origins of the basement bloodbath??
    Simple:
    The W4 never accounted for the possibility that they hadn't completely destroyed ALL of Ayla's bloodstain in their cleanup attempts, or planned ahead IN CASE investigators found something...

    They may not have even realized the basement would be SEARCHED by LE, in the first place...

    Because, afterall, the abduction "took place" on the first-floor, so wouldn't LE confine their crime scene search-area to the upstairs rooms???
    (Remember: There's no MENSA members in this group!)

    Since there was no "official story" set up in advance regarding "how the blood got there/ whose it was", they're NOW forced to try and tailor their lie to fit evidence, INDIVIDUALLY... and, also WITHOUT KNOWING (exactly) how much was left behind, what LE found, OR if the trace amounts collected can definitely be matched as "Ayla's"!

    This is exceedingly difficult to do, considering AT LEAST 3 people, and, MOST LIKELY 5, were involved in Ayla's death and it's cover-up, or have KNOWLEDGE of such.

    How do they AVOID contradicting themselves or another conspirator, every time they open their mouths, since they are NOT all together in the same place to get their stories straight??

    Presumably, they're ALL facing questions on a daily basis from uninvolved "supporters" such as Angela Harry, Aunt Selena, Heidi Tudela, etc. They gotta tell em' SOMETHING to keep em' on their side, since they have precious few supporters, and NONE to spare!

    The DiPs have the right to tell the media, and even LE: "No comment"...but this isn't a tactic that's gonna work in the real world to keep their loyal fans happy!

    And, let's don't forget the different attorneys representing their respective clients!
    They probably AREN'T getting the "whole truth" out of their clients, regarding what they know or what their REAL involvement was, and these attorneys are sometimes making public statements, too...

    I predict we will hear *EVEN MORE* of these, unapologetic, self-serving, and (above all else) CONTRADICTORY versions as to "who/what/where/when and why", from those who took part in Ayla's disappearance, before this is all said and done!!

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    1. Bloodbath. Good definition VTLady. I think that should be the new term.

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  13. Justin seems to have told different people different stories about how the blood came be "down" in his house. Selena says the blood was hers. This family only opens their mouths to lie.

    Hello??????? Is this 1800? Who the hell uses the word "hearth" anymore? I for one, would like to know how old the person is that came up with the latest story of how Ayla's blood got "down" in Justin's house.

    Heath. WTH. I'm surprised they didn't say down in "ye hearth." Jeez, gimme a break.

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    1. Correction. 3rd sentence should start with the word HEARTH.

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    2. Aye, the girl-child doth spilt its blood, yonder on ye hearth. Wretched, clumsy, ingrate...'Tis ruined!

      Make haste now; Summon ye Village Stone Mason and ye Black Smythe, to build and forge us anew.

      Charge ye olde "State of Maine" for thy repairs, as we doth have neither pence, nor farthing, with which to pay!

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    3. what do you call the raised area in front of the fireplace?

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    4. Last I knew it was called a hearth, but I guess we can't use that word anymore unless we want to be considered a JD supporter....

      You people amaze me with the shit you come up with...

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    5. Justin came up with, "Hearth".

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    6. WTH is wrong with the word hearth?

      I can figure out on my own the gaping holes in the hearth theory of blood but as to the use of the actual word itself? Exactly what is wrong with that word?

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    7. Why the change from the scraped ankle to the heel ? Was it because the ankle wouldnt spread the blood in different places ? And the heel cut would make the blood spots in many places in the house when she walked,not just in one area.

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    8. LOL I doubt Justin ever used the word hearth in his life. In fact, I'll bet everyone on this blog has never used the word in their own vocabulary before this post. Maybe they read it in a book, but it is an antiquated term. People say fireplace. It's like calling a fridge an icebox, or saying post instead of mail.

      Exactly VTLady!!!!

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    9. Lol!
      There's really nothing *wrong* with the word "hearth", per se..
      It *IS*, technically, the raised area in front of the fireplace, just as the "mantle" is the stonework and ledge ABOVE the fireplace.

      However, I really CANNOT imagine this word being part of Justin DiPietro's normal vocabulary!
      Can you?

      And, it doesn't even matter:
      Ayla's foot being "scraped", walking barefoot over brick-work, should NOT have caused a "dripping wound"---one that when an adult picked her up to get her boo-boo fixed, would have dripped pen-tip sized droplets onto the floor.

      That kind of "dripping" is generally produced by deeper wounds, such as punctures, cuts, and the like.

      If Ayla left the blood behind by WALKING around with an abrasion-type wound to her foot/ankle, what was found would have been described as "smears", I would think.

      The entire story, from the term "hearth" supposedly passing Justin's lips, to the description of Ayla's "scraped foot" leaving behind blood "droplets", seems contrived.
      JMO/MOO

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    10. ITA VTLady and Bride, on all points with the hearth talk. I get the feeling JD not only has never used the word, but probably didn't/doesn't even know what the word means. It's true Bride, *hardly* anyone uses the term hearth or icebox. So, I'm not saying JD is dumb, just that a young, early 20's guy is not talking about *hearths*.

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    11. Well I think we can all agree that hearth probably is not a word that flows naturally from Justin's mouth but then, why would that shock us. Hearth strikes me as a more feminine word. No. That is not exactly what I mean.

      That word seems more likely to me to be used by a female and not a male in modern speech. Why? Because females are the ones who tend to read more historical novels, in which each home had a hearth, and therefore, that word would be more likely to be familiar to a female.

      But women have been doing Justin's speaking since day one so I guess it never occurred to me that the word came from Justin. I simply assumed that this little construct was supplied to him by one of his female protectors/caretakers, as have most of his other statements.

      Justin is (or was) staying at The Tudelas’ home — a large, newly built neo-Victorian — sits on a partially wooded hilltop with sweeping views of the Kennebec River valley. http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Father-friends-say-its-possible-cops-say-no-way.html

      Betting a large neo-Victorian home has a fireplace, complete with hearth. Which leads me to my own thoughts on who supplied that particular word.

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  14. http://startthelies.blogspot.ca/

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    1. LOL, that site is worth checking out.

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    2. I guess if the c word is not offensive to readers.

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    3. The c word is never used. Go away lies.

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  15. Maybe Justin is changing his story because there could be Ayla's drops of blood in many locations.
    For example, a scrape on ankle on the stairs ~ as he carried her away.

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    1. That is my surmise. The pool is the injury the drops are accidental as she is carried away. Separate events in the timeline.

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    2. Yes, I have wondered where else, more drips may be.

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  16. OT, but I was just reading some previous post where a lot of commenters can't seem to imagine Justin premeditating Ayla's "demise". It is a hard concept to grasp, but let me remind you, he was premeditating her death before she took her first breath by trying to convince Trista to abort "if it was his". He never wanted Ayla.

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    1. Excellent observation Stace. I am one that stated I do not feel that it was a premeditated. The arguement you provide though makes me change my stance slightly. I do not feel the LIP was purchased as premeditaion. He definately did not want Ayla though.

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    2. Stace...I think that is over-reaching. It is not uncommon, nor unreasonable, for a man to request, even pressure, his partner to terminate a pregnancy he wants no part of. I don't consider that "premeditated" murder.

      I have PLENTY of reasons why I believe Justin is responsible for Ayla's fate. His initial reaction to not wanting to be a father, however, is not one of them.

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    3. I agree, mckeekitty. I don't think the reaction to Trista's pregnancy was anything to assume connected to premeditation; it's so common for young adults to wish for abortion when they're not ready. However, @Stace: That is a good thought.

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  17. Selena Johnson Apr 11,2012 07:22PM
    10). LE telling Phoebe not to tell the public who was in the house the night because it could mess up the investigation .
    11). Phoebe, not knowing what to say when asked that question stumbles through it by lying. Phoebe after the interview tells them that it was a lie and why. The media deciding that it makes for a better story and posts the lie first instead of editing. LE didn't back Phoebe up with a statement but let her swing. (feelings about media and LE at this point???)

    So that's what their EXCUSE (always an excuse never taking responsibility) is on why they aren't talking? So it's because LE don't stick up for them when they lie? Sure LE tells Phoebe not to talk about it because it could mess up the investigation. Well Phoebe did talk about it and she lied. LE didn't tell her to lie about it that was HER choice all she had to say was she isn't suppose to talk about that because of the investigation. But instead I'm sure she wanted to help Justin out or whatever so she lied. It's not at all LE or the medias falt she lied. she knew the public was going to see the interview. Phoebe needs to take responsibility just like everyone who knows what happend to Ayla (Justin most of all) needs to tell the TRUTH and take responsibility for what they did to Ayla. She is a baby and her father should of been their for her. Also people need to stop lieing and making excuses for him and that family. Justin was suppose to be watching her he is responsible for her and something happend to her and he needs to step up and tell the truth for once.
    Mrs.NickSmith.

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    1. Mrs. Nick Smith: You and your husband are quickly becoming some of my favorite commentators over here. Great thoughts all around from both of you, if I'm correct to assume the relation of you both. Thanks for sharing!

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    2. "Phoebe, not knowing what to say when asked that question stumbles through it by lying." Selena J

      That makes sense? Why would she not know what to say on "that question?" If Pheebs doesn't know how to respond she automatically lies? What about all the other questions? Didn't she know how to answer them either, or is that why she lied over and over and over again? When one does not know how to answer a question, the correct response is "I don't know." Ayla is missing, but Pheobe's priority is lying to cover Justin. I'll bet money the ONLY reason Pheebs admitted to lying was to somehow benefit herself or Justin. NOT because she has a conscience.

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  18. Selena is so afraid of the truth,"I just hope shes alive" to I dont ask them anything about that night.Ask the questions Selena if they are innocent what are you afraid of?

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  19. If there was an innocent explanation for the blood, Justin wouldn't have left the police station when confronted with the luminol pictures. My children have had some pretty terrible injuries - but I am postive not a one has ever bled more than cupful. Head injuries seem to bleed the most, my son fell on the diving board and needed stiches to his head, it was a bloody mess, but not more than a cup full.

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    1. Bingo, @kimc! When I was a kid, I did a back flip in a pool and my mother wasn't with me at the time; just the neighborhood kids and she was in the house doing stuff (life back then was so different). That back flip resulted in a severe head injury with blood everywhere, but it wasn't anywhere near a cup full...that alone has had me questioning this the entire case. I just can't imagine what could have caused THAT MUCH blood, and for such a small little girl!

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  20. My own theory on the varied versions of the blood story.

    Justin gave some sort of version to police I would imagine. Wish I knew what THAT one was.

    Reason being, when he up and walked out of that interview regarding the blood, that was when the tide turned as far as LE's public stance regarding the level of cooperation and forthrightness of the DiP family. Ergo, whatever lie he spun to give LE was unsatisfactory.

    I am willing to bet that Justin then spent the next several weeks using the old "I can't talk about it, it would jeopardize the investigation" line on his friends and family. Hence they all went into defensive mode and began coming up with their own theories on how to innocently explain the presence of Ayla's blood.

    Too bad none of them coordinated with one another. The existence of all these varied versions simply make none of them seem very credible.

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  21. That is how much Selena knows,on April 11,she said Ayla could have got cut on a box,Why didnt her family tell her where Aylas blood came from before then? Strange they didnt even tell her Aylas blood was there at all.LE did.

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  22. MSP..."some" of the blood belongs to Ayla, and more test are ongoing. (luminol)
    That is all MSP has siad about the blood.

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    1. I thought McCausland said recently that he was receiving lab reports "daily". Still no mention of anyone else's blood but Ayla's. My theory? The dried spots of blood were Ayla's. The cleaned up blood was Ayla's but degraded from the cleanup so as to only provide enough DNA markers to prove it was DiPietro blood but not enough to rule any of them out. So LE stays mum.

      Hey Heidi, were those four drops of blood on the HEARTH in Justin's bedroom?

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    2. I agree McCausland did recently say that they were recieving lab reports daily. I also agree that there has been no mention of anyone elses's blood, but Ayla's.
      Anyone can offer their theory, but it is just that, a theory. Correct?

      I'm not sure if you are implying that I'm Heidi, or not?
      I'm not, nor do I know any of either family members, or friends. So I can't answer the question about 4 drops of blood anywhere in the DipPietro home.

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    3. @Anonymous: I don't think she was referring to you as Heidi, just asking in the general context since we know that Heidi and the rest of Justin (et al) read over here.

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    4. *Justin's group (et al)*

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  23. Does anyone think that maybe Justin and Heidi are having an affair. he should be staying with his friend Derek not his friends mother. Maybe that is why she is so protective of him, they have a secret and that secret stays with them. He is her boy toy...Derek what do you think of that. Derek needs to start talking. Justin is no ones friend. He uses and manipulates everyone. Why do you think Heidi keeps him
    around.

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    1. uh, no, seriously doubt that

      I think she is taking him under her wing to protect Derek who is probably implicated up to his eyeballs for the LIP.

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    2. Heidi will go nutz when JD is sent to jail cuiz she knows JD will want his buddy D to join him and boy does he have the goods on him.

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    3. I don't *think* they are having an affair, but I DO think it strange for him to be staying with his buddy's mom...

      - Oh, I know. They are all just such close, great, wonderful friends...

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    4. I don't think they're having an affair, but I agree that she is helping so firmly to protect her son in whatever involvement he has in all of this (whether it's just an innocent LIP transaction or something deeper). The theories on Derek's involvement are highly plausible, but I'm still on the fence about him as a whole.

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  24. It's no wonder why these people who r trying to stick up for Justin can't get their story straight (besides the fact that they weren't there when Ayla came up missing) it would be hard knowing what to say when even Justin (and the Dipetros/people in home that night) can't even get their story straght and figured out themselfs. Justin had to hang up on the operator 3times when all he had to do is report Ayla missing. So he obviously didnt have his story planned out and he couldnt even tell the police who's blood it was and how it happend so why in hell can all these other people know who's blood and how it happend if he can't even explain it. It's his bedroom he should know and it's his baby's blood he defendantly should know how it happend but he can't even explain that without running out of the police station. And how is it going to help Ayla at all by trying to make Justin look so innocent If he is innocent maybe they should relaxe and let the truth come out first and let that change our minds about him but we all know he is guilty and they know that so they r just trying to help him with what they can (they really don't make his case look any better makes it worse with the lieing and excuses).
    Mrs.NickSmith.

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    1. That is the key point Mrs Smith! Nothing done by the spinners or excuse makers will ever be beneficial to bringing Ayla home. The DM's and Selenas' are actually making the situation even worse.

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  25. ANON A4:03,

    I think the problem is he DID have his story planned out but in such a simplistic way, he didn't anticipate 911 questions and had no responses ready. Justin is apparently used to using the bullying approach to get people to believe him and found himself outmatched with LE.

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    1. Justin doesn't do too well when he is put on the spot. Most likely because his version/versions of events are lies. You don't have problems answering questions when you're telling the truth, which quite obviously he is not.

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  26. Betty from BangorApril 24, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Beautiful poem written by Trista

    whereisayla.com

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    1. Betty can you put up a link, I went to that site and it would not open for me.

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  27. Betty from BangorApril 24, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Check Ayla's Angel site it is posted with a link there

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  28. I started reading intensly around the same time Angela Harry was posting about the Saturday morning and the story was being edited. I still don't understand why she was going on about the babygate and the story shift about who noticed Ayla missing first, Elisha or Courtney.
    A simple thing.
    And I still am not sure what the final version of the edits was because AH went private.
    Why didn't they have ONE set of events or circumstances ?
    Just like the blood.

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  29. First off, Dale Morse is still alive? I would have thought she had either incinerated herself or swallowed her own frothy tongue by now. I have said it many times before, she scares the shit out of me and I don't scare easy. To say she is crazy is like saying Justin Dipietro has a twat.. common knowledge.

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  30. Think if you had a tiny cut, wherever, and it was enough to make even just one drop. Dropping from a height of 6 inches , when it hit the floor the edges would splay out and the spot on the floor would be bigger than the tip of a pen.
    So I wonder about a spray or splatter, which I hate to think of. So many things about this case are hard to think about and upsetting to all. Especially Aylas family.

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  31. Oooh. If you people had a braincell between you you might comeup with A logical idea. Shame it isn't going to happen any time soon.

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    1. The only person who can enlighten us is, "Who done it" How do You know Annon that it won't happen anytime soon?

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  32. I know I am going to regret this, but if we are so far off base, why don't you enlighten us with your brilliance?

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    1. I agree John P.

      I'd like to hear Anon's "logical" idea.

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    2. John don't feed the trolls. They bite.

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    3. I don't think the anon above has enough gumption to actually try to enlighten us Kit. Another hit and run fire starter I guess.

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    4. Using socratic thinking, if you pullsomething apart there is only one way it can fit back together in order for it to work correctly.

      You're all far too busy following the opinions of others' and building conclusions upon the foundations of other people's thoughts.

      In this instant as far as I can tell there is only one person who is an officer of the law on this blog. I can say that signs are missed at ground level that can indicate what type of crime occurred. If the crime leaves no signs that it did occur then an officer can conclude that it never happened! But does this make it correct? NO. In this instant should only one line of investigation take place? NO. ALL AVENUES NEED INVESTIGATING in order to conclude correctly and piece together a TRUE account of what ACTUALLY happened.

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    5. John P the whippersnapper! Where is your patience? I don't live and breath blogs. I have no need to hit refresh every two minutes, hmmmm.

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    6. What does Socratic thought have to do with this case. As a law enforcement officer, I am assuming you were referring to yourself since you probably don't know the rest of us, you duty is to look at the individual pieces of the puzzle and create a prosecutable masterpiece. You do not take apart a case when it is presented to you as a whole. And to say all avenues of investigation have not been followed simply means you have not followed the case close enough to judge the rest of us. This is just my opinion, you can take it for what it is worth. Have a nice night either way.

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    7. Sorry, I am getting confused with the multiple anons. Can one of you pick an alias so I know who I am speaking with?

      anon 8:50 I figure 50 minutes was enough time to disqualify me as an impatient whippersnapper. If you don't want to discuss something logically without the insults, thenI guess I will just say, have a nice night!

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    8. Sorry Kit & anon 8:11. I did say I would probably be sorry and I guess I am. I think it is time to call it a night before I am insulted again and I get wound up. Have a good night to you!

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    9. John, what you say is fine. How they choose to insult is only a reflextion on themselves and not on your words.
      Is'nt it nice that they are thinking of you tho!! So I say THANKS, HOW Wonderfull!
      I wish you a good night John.

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    10. JohnP

      Offended because I called you a whippersnapper and impatient. How impolite of me. I have many things in life that come first before said blog. It is something I look at in the moments when I am alone and not busy.

      I know many cases very well, including this one. I've seen first-hand in many cases how fellow officers try to get evidence to follow only one train of thought, only because they implicitly believed so. Cases regularly become tainted due to personal feelings of those involved. If that insults you then I suggest you take up the role of officer and straighten us out. That doesn'timply that officers don't do their best, we are human. You say we don't lie, we don't bribe, and so on. How do you presume, outside of science that we get receive our information? We don't employ psychics so all the dirty tricks of the trade get used. So far I've noted quite a number have been used.

      For those who aren't privy to the trade, who are unaware will be left that way. I wont be divulging.

      My earlier post connoted that a great subset of this group consisting of more than half of its members are off base with your approximation with new ideas thrown into the mix for personal achievement, few are on the right track. Its all very abecedarian.

      Manifestly, you aren't welcoming or complaisant of fresh thought or conversation. I'll leave you to your abrogating and colorless opinions.

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  33. I can understand that you feel that the blood is a major issue in this investigation.

    Tori, I know that you read over at JSTL so I know you would have read that Selena never spoke to Justin about the case. She is part of his support camp which I would expect from people who are his family and friends.

    Either way, even if Selena did know full details about the blood, she knows her limitations of what she can or can't say. Perhaps her way around this is sparking the imagination with suggestions, this way people can begin to understand possibilities other than the ones "floating around out there".

    What I don't understand is how you are satisfied with the blood being the center of your belief that Ayla is dead when MSP haven't backed up Trista's statement. If MSP have enough blood to suggest that Ayla was murdered right there next to Justin's bed, then he would've been arrested months ago.

    Tell me, if Ayla's blood is only SOME of that cupful that was found, then who's is the rest? MSP make it clear that only some was confirmed as Ayla's and that further testing would conclude whether the rest was Ayla's. NOTHING has since been mentioned by the police.

    If you take the lack of support MSP have offered regarding trista's statement along with LE's argument that "they were not yet looking for a deceased Ayla" then why should you be so sure that LE are wrong and that Ayla is dead?

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    1. LucifersHand, it's not so simple. The story is that Ayla "disappeared" on the night of the 16th when three adults were allegedly in the house. Even if the police know from the blood loss she is in all likelihood dead, how do they determine the manner of death and the person responsible? If they, like so many of us, think she may have died earlier than the 16th, the cast of characters potentially responsible for her death changes. The police can't arrest someone for murder without tying the murder to the specific person. Just saying well someone did it isn't good enough. And remember two people were supposedly sleeping in that bed next to which the blood was found (possibly 3 if you count the little boy, who was in the room if not in the bed).

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    2. Lucifer, though I agree with the logic of Anon 8:16 I have a question to add to the comment. The question is howmany times has LE shot down erroneous information when released by the media or individuals (many) versus the number of times they have confirmed truthful information (none)? Another question if you don't mind, when is the last time you saw LE release evidence to a perpetrator (rarely) versus the number of times they inform victims families of the investigative process (frequently)? Though I will not speak for Tori, since you asked her your question directly, I can tell you that the answers I placed in parenthesis lead me to believe that Ayla is no longer with us physically. My heart does not want to accept that, but the evidence is over powering at this point.

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    3. I stated this up above also:
      I believe the "more than a cupful" would have been tested, before the statement was made to Jeff/Trista and at that time, there was even more samples/evidence, that had not been tested yet (testing not complete). I don't think LE would tell the Mother of a missing baby that a specific amount of blood, if any, had been found, tested and matched her baby, if they were not 100% sure. The rest of the samples could be blood or something else, Ayla's or someone's else. I DO believe Jeff and Trista's statement regarding the amount of blood. It makes no sense for them to lie. How would that look to LE? Plus, LE has corrected lies/misunderstandings in other instances, from JD and media. Why would they not correct this?

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    4. Anon, The problem is that WE ALL have theories. For starters 1 cupful doesn't qualify as enough blood to consider murder. MSP said "some" blood was Ayla's and the rest of the specimen had yet to be identified. Suddenly we don't have 1 cupful of only Ayla's blood. How can this just be ignored? I agree that if it happened the way you believe it did then yes, tying it to a specific person becomes difficult, even though most have decided on who is guilty.

      John P, again I agree that LE has not stated a great deal in regards to evidence found, and as far as I am aware they corrected the boston station for reporting that LE were looking for a deceased child and in fact asserted they were still holding out hope for a live Ayla. They have not confirmed or denied ANYBODY'S rumors. As for showing evidence to a perpetrator, this is very common to do during interrogation. It is also common knowledge to misinform people to make them feel more or less comfortable in hope of gleaming information. The fact that the public is deeply interested in this case doesn't require the law to fill in the missing gaps regarding the public's theories.

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    5. Kit, it would make sense for Jeff and Trista to lie if they had reason to. Just because you believe in your theory as much as believe in mine doesn't mean that its not possible for either of us to be wrong. I'm human, I err but I can admit it. Again, police make false statements, and intentionally lie to serve their purpose all the time. If LE made that statement to Trista, there did have to be reason behind it, but it may not be what you think. http://www.criminalattorney.com/news/police-can-lie-to-you/
      Just because Trista reports about the case back to us doesn't make it true. It just makes her confident.

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    6. Lucifers Hand

      LE did make a very heated clarification on the blood issue in a public statement after it was reported by the Boston Station that blood "splatters" were found. THat was not LE terminology or information and they wanted to make it very known.

      If there was indeed an issue with the quantity of blood detected, as it was made known by the Reynolds family, LE would have publicly addressed it in the same way.

      We can infer that the information is correct and that the public sharing of that information by LE directly and formally was considered to not be in their best interest as it relates to their investigatory responsibilities.

      I have to say that those who continue to challenge Justin's responsibility in Ayla's disappearance by choosing individual pieces of evidentiary fact to pick apart and at times distort, are acting in a way that mirrors the basic typology of a cover up, and it is clearly not serving Justin's position as you can tell by the public's reaction.
      I am not interested in bolstering his position anyway, but I just have to say: the blood dispute needs to be dropped, it is not effective, it is an psychological hole, and its time for a new MO.

      The blood IS. There was a lot- in one spot, by Justin's bed.
      Empirically the blood ties Ayla to an accident or violence in Justin's bedroom.


      Not that you are asking, but if Justin sympathizers should spend less time on the blood and more time in distancing him from that room or house where the blood was, and blaming someone else IN THAT HOUSE, if they really want to help him.

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    7. tamta - you just explained exactly why John P's theory of little Ayden accidently shooting Ayla doesn't jive. The police vehemently denied that there was blood SPLATTER. A gunshot wound would cause splatter.

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    8. They didn't deny there was splatter; they just did not confirm it.

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  34. Anon 903, fair. but they do not want to go there, and it is not because evidence is lacking.

    Anon 1158:

    i do not know the shooting theory or any evidence to date that would support that theory. i have not read his post. that really was not the point of what i was writing about above so i am not going to head in that direction. all i know that is now that we know the location of the blood discovery and a basic quantity, it can be considered indisputable that Ayla left that house alive or able to remain alive without emergency medical treatment. she did not receive it. there is no publicly released evidence yet to determine how that may have happened and i am just not the type to go there with out more facts.

    MSP Comments about Blood

    NG Transcripts.com 1/30/12


    STEPHEN MCCAUSLAND, MAINE STATE POLICE (via telephone): Thanks for having me on, Nancy. And I want to compliment you. I know last week, you devoted 40 minutes one night to this case. It means a lot to the people of Maine that it`s still in the headlines and still being discussed nationally. And I thank you for that.

    I want to -- the blood -- Susan basically revealed what we`ve talked about. We`ve confirmed there was blood in the basement, and we`ve confirmed that some of those samples were Ayla`s.
    (MSP refers to entire basement here, not the area by the bed- meaning there were other samples of blood types found in basement but they do not say that there were other blood types mixed with the particular quantity and locale in question) We haven`t discussed the quantity, nor am I going to tonight.

    But we find the discovery of the blood troubling.
    (This is notable for such a tight lipped investigation to say this. It is not to be taken lightly or dismissed.)

    GRACE: I agree with you. With me, spokesman from the Maine State Police, Stephen McCausland. They`ve been looking 24/7 trying to find baby Ayla. They have revealed one way or the other that they do not buy the family`s story that there was an intruder that took the baby. Nobody heard a thing, no forced entry. In fact, they say they don`t believe baby Ayla was ever kidnapped or that she walked off on her own.

    Stephen, I understand you`re not -- you can`t give me a lot. But can you tell me what type of a blood stain was it, was it a drop, was it a smear or was it spatter?

    MCCAUSLAND: I can`t get into any of those details, Nancy, other than I can confirm some of the blood was Ayla`s.

    -I can not paste the Bangor Daily News Article without losing this reply, that is the vehement reply.

    MSP is not going to release any more details about blood because they are anticipating a trial. Talking about splatters leads to speculations about weapons or blunt force, which leads to public speculations about malicious intent to harm etc. Those are conclusions to be reached in a trial decided by a hopefully uncontaminated jury.

    Like I said above, I do not want to assist Justin, but if people want to help him they need to STFU about the blood. The more they blab about it, the more it gets argued, the audience grows and the more difficult they will make finding people to form a fair jury to decide his case when he goes to trial.

    And he will- and his friends and "fam" just need to start getting their heads around that.

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  35. I agree, Tamta, that the police do not want to go there about the "splatter" as well as other details. I am sure they have their very good reasons at this time such as not wanting this case muddied/muddled in the media.

    Anon 9:03

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    1. And I should have added above that LE does not want the DiPs to know all that they know. Nothing like keeping Justin and his platoon of protective mommies in the dark about what LE knows.

      Meanwhile, the Justin troops are out everywhere trying desperately to discover what is known and how they, Heidi and the DiPs, can accomodate any new release of info that come from LE or through Trista and Jeff.

      Lucifers Hand. What a pretty nom de plume to adopt when you are trying to persuade people that one side is innocent. Is it like the Devil's Advocate only more so? Nope, doesn't work for me!
      I remember the old Biblical adage: The devil can quote scripture for his own purpose".

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  36. The people who are doubting MSP and LE, get a grip, you do not have to like these people or anything they have to say, BUT they are and have done what they can to find this innocent child. They are not releasing minor detail or even major detail as if you studied Law, it would be completely damaging to this case, reguardless if it is paternal, maternal, friend or a complete stranger. Yes all this waiting, and worrying sucks, but they will not let a potential abductor, murderer, or other dangerous individual walk because they released to much information and damaged the case. Sorry if this sounds mean, but I myself pray for Ayla everyday, and in the end the truth wilk prevail, also remember, Karma is a B*tch..

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  37. I agree Jen C.

    It is an incredibly serious case and MSP has used the word "magnitude" to describe it.

    Prosecution of successful cases takes time.

    They are not just looking for an arrest.

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