Saturday, April 21, 2012

The Life Insurance Policy-Red Herring or A Big Piece of the Puzzle?

We all know that Justin bought a life insurance policy that would pay out upon the death of his only child only to have her be declared abducted a few months later. We have gone over many possible scenarios as to what might have happened to Ayla Reynolds these past few months but in my opinion the life insurance policy never really fit in to any of the scenarios discussed at length on this blog except for one where Justin was going to use the payout to start his own business in the trucking business/drug trafficking trade. Since Ayla has not yet been found and there has been no payout, granted it is still early on in the case, no one can know for sure yet if that is what happened.

Someone posted a comment the other day that life insurance policies can be backdated and that set my mind in motion again. What if the reason Heidi is so vocal defending Justin is because Derek also will be implicated if Justin is found guilty of murder? We have all wondered what would make Heidi risk so much to defend someone who is not even her blood. Maybe she is in fact defending her son and in order to do that Justin needs to be innocent in Ayla's disappearance?

Since Life Insurance can in fact be backdated, I have to wonder if the purchase of the life insurance policy was more ominous than originally thought? Did Justin confide in his best friend when something terrible happened to Ayla? Derek, not able to help Ayla, decides he can help Justin? Did he offer to help Justin at least profit off of what had happened to Ayla in the form of an insurance payout? Even if that payment came well into the future? Derek would know all of the ins and outs of the insurance trade so he would know that policies can be backdated. Maybe Ayla's policy did go into effect on the 20th or so of October, but was that the day Justin went into the office and signed the policy? How do we know that Justin did not go into the office on the 12th of December or any other day that week and start the ball rolling on this? All Justin would have had to do is pay a two months worth of missed premiums. Not an awful lot of money if the policy ran him under $20 a month.

LE would be able to ascertain that the life insurance policy was submitted to State Farm in December and not in October but what could they really do with that information unless they had proof that Ayla was deceased before the date the policy was actually purchased? They could use it to accuse Justin of not telling them the whole truth which they have announced to the media. The public has assumed that it was because of the presence of blood that they made that statement, and it very well could have had something to do with it but I would think that LE would have more ducks in a row than just one when making a statement of that magnitude. Is this something LE is keeping close to the vest?

Maybe LE is not in a hurry to bring this case to the Grand Jury because they want to find Ayla first. Once they find her many questions will be answered and in doing so more than one person may be facing criminal charges. I can only hope that is the case and not that they have no evidence to convict. I would like to see anyone who has aided and abetted Justin brought to Justice, not just the person responsible for actually harming Ayla, IF was in fact harmed and not abducted as Justin claims. If Derek did commit insurance fraud, he likely will also be brought up on charges. If Heidi and Darrell Tudela were in on this, they too are culpable.

The whole issue on Life Insurance has been very confusing to me. Many people have come out and revealed that they also have an insurance policy on their little ones in case the worst happens. I can wrap my head around having a Whole Life policy on a child, one that accrues a cash value and can be borrowed on for college expenses or some emergency that happens down the road. Those plans are costly and it is unlikely that Justin had the means to keep up with a monthly premium on a policy like that. I can't understand Term Life Insurance on a child with the father being the beneficiary. No parent thinks consciously that they will outlive their child and if that were to happen, most adults with children are financially stable enough to foot the costs of a funeral for their child, even if it means taking out a personal loan or borrowing on a credit card or borrowing from a friend or family member.

What would make sense to me about Justin taking out a Term Life Policy is if he took it out for himself and listed Ayla as a beneficiary. It would be more reasonable for him to think that in a period of say 20-30 years that if he died unexpectedly his death would cause a hardship on those he loves. The payout would ensure that his funeral would be covered as well as any mortgage on a home he may purchase in the future, Ayla's college tuition, etc...In my opinion, that is what a responsible father would do, not look out for himself in the event of his daughter's demise.

Is this another piece of the puzzle that LE is working on? Is the life insurance policy and the actual date it was issued a nail in Justin's coffin or is it unrelated? Is it a red herring as some want us to believe? If it is a red herring, I find the timing of the policy along with the evidence of Ayla's injuries while in Justin's care very suspect to say the least. I find it incriminating that Justin was not forthright with this information right away and it wasn't until Trista revealed it to the public that Justin addressed it and claimed he did not seek it out, which may very well be true. He has yet to answer any more questions about it to the media or really any pertinent questions for that matter. Why is that?












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  1. Insurance policy- Red herring

    IMO, I think it is morally wrong to use a picture of Ayla to bring hurt or pain to one of her family members. IMO it is disrespectful to Ayla.
    And your picture has 2 questions.

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    1. Two questions for the price of one. Nothing wrong with that. I see nothing wrong with the picture of the question. Perhaps Justin should just answer our questions and the questions would go away. Better yet, tell us where Ayla is, Justin!

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    2. It has 2 questions tied into one question and only one question mark. I am sorry you find it disrespectful to one side of her family. I find it disrespectful that one side of her family has done the bare minimum in trying to get Ayla home, especially when she went missing on his watch.

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    3. I think it's morally wrong for Ayla to have suddenly 'disappeared' from her grandmothers house while under the care of her father. It's morally wrong that said father is lying to Ayla's mother and LE about what happened to Ayla. It's morally wrong and disrespectful to Ayla for that poor excuse of a father to enter a church and act like he has no knowledge of what happened! And then proceed to tell people how 'hard' this has been on him and ask other people and God to look for Ayla. Don't worry, we will and have been! I believe LE has everything they need. Hey Justin! ...tick tock

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    4. In order to find Ayla, to find out what happened to her and who's responsible - questions should be asked.

      Ayla went missing while in Justin's care, and her blood was found in his basement. She's been missing 4 mos now. LE has said they don't believe it was an abduction, and they don't believe the 3 who were in the house that night are telling everything they know. This means there's a possibilty one of Ayla's family members has brought hurt and pain to her. To ignore this and avoid trying to get answers, IMO..would be disrespectful to Ayla.

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    5. You are correct, also, in order for Ayla to be found, questions need to be answered.

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    6. I think they are just nitpicking because they have nothing else better to do. :) I have many more pictures with many more questions that will soon see the light of day. I am sure I will get more complaints about them too but they are staying. :)

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    7. Did you go to school for graphic design J4A? You do a wonderful job with the pictures, very talented!

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    8. J4A, you are doing a great job! Don't stop.

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    9. Anon 4:58 PM. If you feel it is morally wrong to use the photos with a question, then by all means, don't use one yourself. No one would want you to do what you feel is morally wrong.

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    10. Kit

      No graphic arts necessary to do pics like that. It's fairly simple today with all the graphic programs available. Also the free graphic programs online. Anyone can do it!

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    11. Thank you Anon 6:31! I have no intentions of stopping now, I am too emotionally invested in Ayla to stop.

      @Kit, I do not have a background in Graphic Arts although I think it would be fun to learn, I was shown how to do it by a friend who does not have a graphic arts background but enjoys working with different programs online. He helped me make a blank copy and I can add questions as I go so if anyone has any questions they want to be asked, feel free to post them and I will get them up.

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    12. JusticeforAyla,
      From annon 4:58,
      I find it disrespectful to BOTH sides of Ayla's family, not just one, as well as disrespectful to Ayla.

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    13. Anon 08:02 - You don't think Trista and her family would like the answers to these same questions too?

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    14. Annon 6:40,
      I would never use a picture of Ayla to hurt one of her family members.

      Thank you, your comment does remind me that we all do not have the same moral standards. What is right for me, is not necessarily right for someone else.

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    15. So true, Anon 8:46 PM and what is wrong for you, is not necessarily wrong for someone else.

      Just ask Justin.

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    16. I believe using the pictures of Ayla to be totally respectful. It is not like people are making up lies and putting them on the pictures. People are asking her father necessary questions. This is a extreme situation with a person being missing.

      Also there are enough pictures of Ayla and with different people that we do get a sense of what is going on. They do tell a story!

      Speaking of respect, I would love to see a picture of Justin with Ayla (maybe the very one above)with a question about how Justin respects Ayla.

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    17. Some of my questions are:
      -- Justin when you removed Ayla from her Mother's care, did you believe you were respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you went and removed Ayla from Jessica's Apartment in a dramatic and abrupt manner for a 1 1/2 year old baby, did you believe you were respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you did not return Ayla to her Mother, did you believe you respected Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you cut off Trista from talking to Ayla, did you believe you respected Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you tolerated people trashing or bad talking Trista, did/do you believe you were/are respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you didn't/don't work with Trista to try and find Ayla, did/do you believe you were/are respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you stopped communicating with Organizations that are willing to work with you to help you find Ayla, did/do you believe you were/are respecting Ayla's needs? (LN'M and LRC)
      -- Justin when you let your daughter Ayla sleep on another floor of the house (from where you were) without a baby monitor (and you yourself are distracted by two guests you have down in the basement with you), did you believe you were respecting Ayla's needs? If she called for you, would you hear her right away?
      -- Justin when you did not check on Ayla for 10 - 13 hours when you left her on another floor of the house, did you believe you respected Ayla's needs? Maybe Ayla needed a clean diaper, something to eat or drink, or maybe she just needed someone to check on her welfare?
      -- Justin when you went to the basement and left Ayla alone upstairs without you and you failed to make sure doors and windows were locked, did you believe that was respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you didn't take Ayla for her medical care (routine medical care, immunizations and Ayla's follow up arm care,) did you believe you respected Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you did not release any of your own current pictures of Ayla when she first went missing, did you believe you were respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin when you did not release (for some time) a description of Ayla's personality for people to have when they were/are watching/looking for Ayla, did you believe you were respecting Ayla's needs? *** aylareynolds.com - click on ayla's page ***
      -- Justin when you did not call Trista the day Ayla was discovered 'missing' to let her mother know and check with Trista about what she thought, did you believe you respected Ayla's needs? (or any other day soon after)
      -- Justin when you minimized about Ayla being 'kidnapped' - Justin: "...And I'm sure she has adapted to this situation.", - did/do you believe you respected Ayla's needs? http://www.wgme.com/template/cgi-bin/archived.pl?type=basic&file=/news/top-stories/stories/archive/2012/01/TL2MA3aK.xml
      -- Justin when you speak about Ayla to the public and frequently call her "my daughter" instead of using her given name, do/did you believe you are/were respecting Ayla's needs?
      -- Justin were you determined to give Ayla all the time and respect she needed to adjust to being abruptly taken from her Mother and having to learn to live with a new daddy all at the same time?

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    18. You are spot on Mrs. P.
      Who thinks, says, Oh she adapts well and probabably thinks it's a game when kidnapped ?

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    19. very well said ms.peridot19Apr

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    20. "Who thinks, says, Oh she adapts well and probably thinks it's a game when kidnapped?"

      Who says that? A person who is not a father who has bonded with a child, but is rather, only a sperm donor with no attachment.

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    21. Thanks MsP., I already made some up with the questions you asked and will be included with my future posts :)

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    22. Thank You J4A! You are a most wonderful advocate for Ayla! sincerely, ms.p

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    23. Great questions ms.p!

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  2. Maybe Derek helped Justin in some criminal deeds? Hey! That's what friends are for.

    Or as profiler Pat Brown said, "Good friends help you move; great friends help you move bodies."

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    1. Anon 4:59 PM

      I am sure Justin feels that Derek is a great friend.

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  3. I just wonder if he is still paying the LIP premiums, even though he asked to stop paying his child support.

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    1. I would venture a guess and say yes. I am sure he needed to money he would save by ceasing the child support payments to go to the premiums for the life insurance. I would guess that in order for the payout, he needs to continue to pay until Ayla is either found or declared dead.

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    2. I'm guessing yes he's still paying. How would that look, if he stopped paying her LIP?? Almost as bad as wanting to stop child support! Not quite as bad, but pretty darn bad. There would only be ONE reason to stop paying her LIP, that I can think of. As if that's not bad enough, yes if he's waiting/hoping for a payout, he'd have to keep paying too I guess.

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    3. Why would he not stop paying child support? Ayla was in his full time care. Would you pay child support to a person that no longer had the child in their care? I think not. This tree has been barked up so many times I really do not think something is going to fall out this time.

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    4. Ayla wasn't LEGALLY, COURT ORDERED, in his custody! Was she? Did I miss something here? What, he didn't want to go to court over child support OR custody? That's what most people have to do... Btw, yes I'd keep paying whatever I was ordered to pay OR I'd toughen up and head on over to the court house if I thought something wasn't right or needed to be modified. Unless I was a dead beat, of course, or KNEW there was no need to pay child support because there was no need to...

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    5. Anon 5:55 PM Ayla was in his temporary care. He also owed back support. You do not get to stop child support payments because you are watching your child for a couple of weeks while Mom is in rehab. It doesn't work that way.

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    6. Kit and Anon @ 6:33, Exactly!

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    7. Anon 5:55 Your question is;

      Why would he not stop paying child support? Ayla was in his full time care.

      The answer is simple! He was told by DHHS to return Ayla after she completed rehab. If he had done a told, Ayla would not have been in his full time care. He should be arrested and charged with custodial interference just for that incident alone. And his denial of visitation from the 8th of Dec on is another charge of custodial interference. Neither would jeopardize further prosecution of higher charges at a later date but it would get him off the streets. And the temp DA justification with no experience is mute, there are documents that LE and DHHS could produce to where even the newest prosecuter could win the trial.

      It feels good to be back with my fellow fighters for Answers and Justice for Ayla.

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    8. I know when my MIL passed last year, we had to make the final payment becasuse she passed on the 3rd of the month. If we didn't pay the month premiums, the policy would not pay the mortgage for my FIL.

      If he is still paying premiums, that tells me he knows Ayla is no longer with us physically.

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    9. Glad to have you back John, I was going to send you an email. I was worried the stress of the whole situation had gotten to you again. Glad all is well and you are back on track with rehab.

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    10. Thank you Tori. It is a good feeling to have friends that care about you. From the looks of what I have read today and all the concerned commenters here, I know Ayla & her family feel the same way.

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  4. quite a while back, I had asked another blog if he had bought a life insurance policy on himself with Ayla as beneficiary as well, but never got an answer. How surprising.

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    1. Good One Maine-iac! Hope you weren't holding your breath!

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  5. The ONLY reason someone who isn't working would insure a 20 month old child and no one else in his family would be if he expected a payout. That has to be the only reasonable, logical explanation

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    1. Exactly right Libbylou. It's just hard for the average person to accept that kind of evil.

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    2. It is hard to accept for anyone who's ever lived a child. It's downright unimaginable

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    3. I would LIKE to believe the LIP was purchased after-the-fact, and Ayla's death was not premeditated, however, I find this scenario problematic.

      IF Ayla's death was unintentional, but in NO WAY looked "accidental"---therefore necessitating hiding and/or destruction of Ayla's remains---why THEN purchase an LIP, afterward??
      IMO, even if JDiP could NOT think that thru, Derek being familiar with insurance logistics in general WOULD be able to...

      This leaves me having to believe that the LIP was ALREADY in-play (purchased) at the time Ayla died, and, either the staged scenario was horribly BOTCHED, or, BEFORE they could follow thru with her staged-death, Justin lost control, and killed Ayla in an unplanned moment of rage.

      The fiasco of Ayla's sloppy death, PLUS Trista filing custody paperwork that Friday, lead to conversion of the original plan into the impromptu "staged abduction" scenario, we are left with.
      JMO/MOO

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    4. (clarification)
      If the LIP was purchased AFTER Ayla's death, and Derek was brought in to help, HE should have been able to advise Justin how unlikely it would be to collect LIP without Ayla's body (which required concealment), AND how incriminating the policy would automatically appear.
      He wouldn't have sold it to him, IMHO.

      If the LIP was purchased BEFORE Ayla's death, and things "went wrong" with the intended plan, I could see Justin/CR believing that they could "still work it" to their advantage, and pull off the abduction scenario, hoping that by the time remains WERE FOUND, evidence of their crime would be washed away.
      Again, all JMO!

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    5. I agree VTLady, the biggest thing I have an issue with, if I may expand upon what you have already stated, that Derek should have known up front what he was doing with the insurance policy. The type sold was not the normal child protection and future planning type of plan. My theory is then original policy purchased within weeks of the "grab" was the accruing policy type and after Aylas blood was spilled, the policy then was changed as an "Oh well, mite as well" type of response. Don't know how understandible that is but that is just my thoughts.

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  6. Maine-iac, I read that he had a larger policy on himself with Ayla as the beneficiary. I can't say that is/was true, just that is what I read.

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    1. Abby, If you happen to come across that article again I would love a link to it if you remember. I had always understood it as he had a car insurance policy through them and added on Ayla's LIP. It would certainly make more sense to me if Justin did in fact have a LIP on himself with Ayla as a beneficiary.

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    2. If is not true.

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    3. I thought I had read where Derek had said it was his idea of the LIP on Ayla when Justin was transfering his vehicle insurance over to State farm. I do not recall him saying that he also suggested a LIP on Justin himself.
      If Justin uses it as an excuse (that it was Dereks idea) he is coping out. He did not have to take him up on the idea. Is it allways some elses fault?

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    4. Now that just makes NO sense. Someone who isn't working would most likely not take out a LIP on himself. What would the purpose of that be? What are you insuring exactly if when and if you die you weren't working or providing your family or children with any kind of financial support. It totally defies the purpose of Life Insurance which is meant to insure those left behind when a loved one who was actually providing for them dies.

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  7. I don't think what happened to Ayla was premeditated. Justin is a bully. Bullies react physically when people don't do it their way. What 20 month old baby ever does exactly what they are told. Bullies are cowards. I think he reacted the way he has all his life and hit, threw, shoved or something and Ayla died. Now it's "cover his tracks time".

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    1. I have often thought in that direction as well.

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    2. I don't think it was premeditated either although he could be more sadistic than we previously thought. I think the LIP was possibly an effort to make a bad situation a little bit better and along the lines of "Well, there is nothing we can do for Ayla now, might as well make it worth it" sort of thing. Sick nonetheless.

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    3. J4A,

      I should have read on before leaving my comment above for VTLady. I guess great minds, do think alike. If I may say so, I TOTALLY AGREE. I spelled it all out, that is how much I agree. It fits everything and Derek is still culpable for backdating or changing the policy after the fact. That is why the ladies are covering for Justin, because he implicated Derek. JMO

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    4. I myself do not know JD . Know some that do . Was told that he /Lance were pretty hot headed .like time bombs didn’t take much to set them off ,(now this is hear say ). Need a little anger
      Management.

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    5. @John P, I think it is certainly plausible. It definitely does explain why the Tudela's have taken such a deep interest in Justin's innocence. I can only hope LE has looked into these things...

      @VTLady- I chuckle every time I see that avatar :)

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    6. My opinion is it was pre-meditated. I still think Justin didn't know about the blood spill. I think the murder occured in Portland before the 16th. They chose the waterville location because the thought the dogs and techs wouldn't find anything. At least, that's how I would do it. Just my opinion.

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  8. It was disrespectful to murder Ayla. After that everything pales in comparison. Derek was asked point blank to confirm or deny the play date with Justin and Ayla on December-16th. He chose not to. Its a trick situation for him because of the policy and possible back dating. In order to disprove fraud the play date of Dec-16th where a living Ayla was observed may be required. Conversely where is Ayla when Justin is in Portland on the 15th on camera. LE may have quite a logistical map drawn in the room they have set aside for this case based on land line calls and cell calls and pings.

    Suddenly two people who rarely speak have a flurry of activity over two days and then all communication ceases. Whoever disposed of the remains is trusted and thorough because the individuals who last saw Ayla are sticking to their story without fear of exposure. It is a very complex story to keep straight though.

    An interesting link.

    http://www.antennasearch.com/default.asp

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  9. I agree,I dont think the insurance had anything to do with Ayla missing.

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    1. I think if it was premed,they wouldnt have done it there,they wouldnt leave blood evidence in the house.Then more evidence in the car.

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    2. It was most likely NOT premeditated but an after thought after he most likely killed her accidentally. That's where the Tudela's, the playdate that probably didn't happen, and the LIP come into play. The policy served a DUAL purpose. 1. It was an investment for a future big payout 2. It was part of the cover-up that most likely occurred after Ayla was killed but before she was reported missing. Therefore implying she was alive at the least up until the 17 th

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    3. and by " he most likely killed her accidentally" I mean in a fit of rage and as a final act of child abuse that was obviously escalating given the range and severities of Ayla's afflictions while in his "care"

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    4. I agree, Anon 6:18. Maybe I'm naive, but I just can't fathom a family-wide cold-blooded premeditated murder of a baby. And IMO, as wonderful as it would be if it were true, the abduction theory is at best wishful thinking and at worst, a bold faced lie.

      It makes the most sense to me that an "accident" occurred that caused Ayla serious harm and the LIP was purchased later. Though it's a stretch and I don't think likely, MAYBE it was bought in advance and it's purchase is just a coincidence. (Profiting in the event of a child's death does kind of fit in with the impression I have of a very narcissist personality like Justin, who might see buying a LIP for a toddler no more significant than buying a lottery ticket.)

      But if an accident happened, why not just call the police? Here's one scenario that MIGHT fit ... IF Justin owned a gun.

      Whether or not the rumors that Justin is a drug dealer are true or false, it IS a fact that he has known drug associates through his GF. Drugs and guns often go hand in hand, and a LOT of gun owners keep their guns near their bed at night. Or maybe he was a hunter, like his good friend Heidi's husband. (A simple google image search on the term "Darrell Tudela" shows that Darrell is an avid game hunter so as close as the family's are, it's not unreasonable to suppose that Justin might be, too.) Here in Texas, many "sportsmen" keep their firearms near them at all times. Being a hunting state, I'm guessing Maine may be similar.

      Home gun accidents aren't just something that happens on tv, they are common - even to "expert" gun handlers. I know this all too well - one such accident happened in my own family 25 years ago. My ex was a deputy sheriff and after a robbery occurred near our new home, knowing I was afraid of guns and not wanting to upset me since I was 8 months pregnant, he hid a loaded pistol near our bed. It's a long story that is OT to this post, but suffice it to say an accident occurred in which he was seriously injured. The bullet came close to killing me and my unborn son.

      My ex-husband's gun was licensed and the accident was immediately reported to 911. But just suppose there was a similar accident in a home with an unregistered or stolen gun, or ... one that could be linked to a crime such as drugs or a recent robbery? If true, that would be a strong motive to not seek medical care for the victim.

      A less than honest person might panic and rationalize something along the lines of "after all, it was a tragic accident, what's done is done, the past can't be changed ... why should my or my loved one's life be ruined, etc., ect., etc. This scenario would also explain why the family and friends would keep silent despite intense LE and public pressure - they are protecting whoever was responsible.

      This is of course, pure speculation and all JMO. I don't have any idea if there was a gun in the DiPietro home or not, but it is a theory that explains the timing and reason for the LIP purchase.

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    5. Nan, your theory fits quite well even without a gun. I believe that it was an accident too. Possibly an anger issue taken too far.

      I believe that the drug items were the reason to not report it or do anything about it. That and that Ayla possibly appeared too far gone. Any accident that caused more than a cupful of bleeding would have been investigated by DHHS, as to whether the home was safe (too bad that wasn't done prior to DHHS stealing Ayla and placing her in that home).

      Rumor has it that drug items were "given away" to others prior to the reported abduction on the night of the 16th, morning of the 17th.

      Theory: Accident happened after December 8th, but prior to December 16th. The house was cleaned up and evidence was disposed of, an abduction story was made up by the perpetrators, in my opinion.

      Phoebe wanted to be out of the house the night of the reported "crime" because she couldn't keep a straight story if she tried. So it was planned she would stay elsewhere. Now she doesn't have to "lie".

      The others, who were involved in the clean up and coverup are convinced they are as guilty as the perp and agree to go along with the story. The scene is set and the players put the story in action that night.

      They have been lying to the police and everyone else since that time. I think some of their strongest supporters just don't want to face the possibility of the truth and have convinced themselves their good friends couldn't possible be that way. I cannot even tell you how many murderers have killed and their former friends and neighbors reported that they are in shock, because he was such a "quiet sweet boy". Sorry folks, but shit happens and it happens to people we would hardly suspect.

      His followers and supporters do no service to Ayla by allowing Justin and family to stay silent. They might as well be hiding Ayla themselves. Perhaps if those four adults (I include Phoebe because she can't possibly not know) would talk and tell what they really know. This would be over for everyone,in my opinion.

      So, to the followers and supporters of Justin, I ask you this, how long do you want this to continue? If you don't, convince your friends to tell the police what really happened.

      This is of course is pure speculation and all JMO. I don't have any idea what happened in the DiPietro home, but the DiPietro family does.

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    6. Nan & Gadget

      I agree that both of your theroies are plausible. They kind of go in line with something I have been thinking as well.

      Justin says when the time is right we will all be shocked by the truth. What if the gun, possibly the same on the Cumby hold-up video, is the gun Justin had by the bed. And what if JD and CR were "busy" elswhere in the house while Ayden and Ayla were playing in the room. God forbid, a child were to find a loaded pistol and accidentally pull the trigger causing harm to another child.

      The pistol obviously can't be allowed to be recovered by police because it was used in another crime> It must be disposed of. The child is then protected by the adults in the house, the evidence is removed to save the child of this horrific incident, there is an attempt to clen-up remaining blood evidence in the house, and all in an effort to protect JD from being charged with another crime using that pistol.

      Then, as J4A stated earlier, the LIP which was purchased earlier is modified (backdated at a minimum) to a policy with a payout to JD so he then has enough to get his big rig down payment.

      This too is purely theoretical. I am sure LE has thought of this as well. It may be just another scenario they project as a possible defense and the reason they will not file charges until they know which of the people in the house commited the crime.

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    7. I think Justin is a psychopath and he planned to murder Ayla for the LIP. I think she met her demise during one of Justin's temper tantrum rages, and the evidence wouldn't wash for an accident. Thus the need to hide her. He may have claimed an accident to his co-conspirators, to keep them on his side, or they may all be psychopaths - birds of a feather.

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    8. @JohnP:
      Ahhhh! The Cumbie's hold-up video...
      I have been keeping that idea in the back of my mind for months now.
      I'm still of the opinion that Lance fits the overall description, Left Hand and All!
      That hold-up happened AFTER Ayla went missing, though, if I'm not mistaken.

      Along the same lines as a gunshot "accident":

      What if JDiP intended for Ayla's death to appear to be a tragic "childhood shooting accident".
      Deed done, he realizes the very REAL possibility that the adult in possession of the weapon MIGHT face criminal charges in relation to Ayla's "accidental gunshot death".
      For instance: criminal negligence for improper storage around children, criminally negligent homicide, and/or having possession of an unregistered firearm, etc.

      Such charges could PRECLUDE his eligibility to collect on the LIP, since, IF the beneficiary is charged with ANY CRIME, in relation to the death of the insured, it could make the policy unpayable???

      Ooops ...
      Now what?
      Well, we can stage an abduction, dispose of Ayla's remains *just well-enough* that she isn't found right away, and by the time LE finds her body, little forensic evidence should remain...then the "abductor" will be assumed Ayla's "murderer", and we'll be free to quietly collect on the LIP.
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    9. I didn't know about the timing of the video! I thought the hold-up was before and the cigarette purchase on the 15th was after. That is my fault but your scenario ties alot of this theory together.

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    10. John P. I think your theory helps explain to me why Courtney would be willing to cover up any accident. I am still not sure about a gun, but an accident between children could have involved any type of object that could have been used as a weapon. I just believe if a gun had gone off, with the homes so close, a neighbor would have heard it. Just my speculations.

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    11. IIRC, there was a loud bang one night before the morning of the 17th that actually did wake a neighbor. I can't find the article now, but I thought I read it on a MS article and it was discussed here early after Tori started this blog. IDK, but I am pretty sure.

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    12. Yes John, I remember reading that also.

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    13. Would you happen to remember where the article was?

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    14. I also remember reading it or watching it. I think it may have been on a transcript from a Jane Velez show. There is a reference in one of my first blog posts in the comment section as well. A neighbor reported hearing a loud bang around 2 or 3am I believe.

      It could have been a gun shot or a trunk of a car slamming shut... I hope LE followed up on that as well

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    15. John and VTLady - I also read about the loud bang; I'll try to find the link. And I, too, thought about the robbery video but couldn't remember the timing so I didn't mention it. Thanks for straightening that out, VTLady.

      Inspector Gadget; as for whether or not a loud noise would be heard in a home gun accident, I'm not sure there would have been one. I don't know a lot about guns, (I disliked them before my ex's accident, and now I HATE them!) but in our case, there definitely was no loud "bang." Just a "POP!" because the gun was on top of a trunk near the bed, underneath a pile of quilts.

      When one of the quilts was pulled out, the gun fell against the wall and fired through the holster and the blanket and into my ex. It was a Vietnam era pistol - there was no safety and the bullet was chambered. It took several very very long seconds for my husband, brother or I to realize what had happened because the sound wasn't like on tv at all.

      None of the neighbors heard anything until the ambulance arrived - most were at work - and since it was during the day, if they had, I'm guessing they would have dismissed it as a car or lawnmower backfiring.

      If I didn't realize right away what happened, and I was in the same room - I can definitely imagine that something similar could have happened in Waterville with no one hearing or understanding what they heard. Especially if the gun was under a pillow or in a basement that is supposed to be sound proofed.

      Anyway, sorry about the ramble - even after all these years our incident is still "burned in my brain" lol. My point is that depending on the gun, a loud bang may or may not have been heard by anyone in the vicinity.

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    16. J4A,

      I can't remember exactly so I will ask before commenting. Was the loud bang the same morning that you MIL or relative saw the vehicle in the "violence" street neighborhood?

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    17. My mother in law saw a vehicle there at 7pm a few days before Ayla was reported missing. Kadoe, a posted that they saw someone in the early morning hours of the 17th

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    18. I guess I need to start filing some of the articles I read for future reference. If the loud noise waking the neighbor was on the same night your MIL or early morning when Kadoe saw strange vehicles, all of this may tie in together!

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    19. Nan found this link for us. I just moved it up here to go with this thread. Great work Nan!

      http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/20/ijvm.01.html

      It talks about the loud bang at 3-3:30 am and it has a quote sayin JD told her himself that Ayla screamed bloody murder when JD fell on Ayla and broke her arm.

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  10. It's more than disrespectful to kill Ayla, it's hideous and monstrous. I am in no way minimizing this. The whole thing makes me sick. All of planning and manipulation came after the fact. I also agree that Ayla was gone before the 17th.

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  11. I'm really on the fence about the LIP. I'm mostly thinking it was actually not purchased for premeditation reasons, but after purchasing and before, during or after whatever he actually did to her, it was probably HOPED that he could cash in. Or, he might even be kicking himself for getting it to begin with, just because of how bad it looks. I'm just really not sure about it yet. For one thing, I firmly believe he had no idea this was going to blow up SO HUGE. He probably thought this would stay in his little town in ME with the WPD, with no visions of MSP and especially the FBI becoming involved.

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  12. You can be sure that MSP has Justin's records, they knew he had bought smokes at a store in Portland from his debit card, so he had to pay for that LIP with something.
    I could write a cheque and put a different date on it, like two months prior. When did the cheque get redeemed at the bank ( Justin's ) that is, if he paid by cheque ?
    I am sure Heidi would be happy to answer the question.
    Far reaching implications ? Who said that ?
    This is all the opinion of a suspicious person and I am copywriting it.
    Because he didn't strike me as a person who cared about Ayla, why a LIP ? Or anything ?

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    1. I think he was working when he took out the policy,I heard he quit his job in Portland when he moved to Waterville.

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    2. When did he "move" to Waterville? He supposedly got the LIP just a few days after Ayla was staying with him. Was he still working after he moved into moms basement?

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    3. Kit,

      I don't think he ever moved completely. It is like he was keeping his bachelor pad and only going to WV when he was told he had to be there for whatever reason. If you recall the reason he was in Portland on the 15th was to get some more of his things from his "apartment". Just more proof he never cared about Ayla, just that she was crimping his pimping!

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    4. J4A Admins, sorry for the last part. I will repost if you want me to delete. I will understand if it is too sarcastic.

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    5. I think he was actually pretty much "moved". I don't think he was staying at the apartment from Oct. 17 - Dec. 17, because if he HAD been staying at the apartment, I'm thinking there would be more questioning toward the roommates. There is some reason, or something important he needed to get that he left at the apartment though, before he called 911, knowing that LE would probably have to search there. Unless he just wanted to get everything, so as to make it appear he was really fully moved - but obviously LE would find out he just got the rest of his stuff 2 days before calling 911.

      Realistically, he was probably only supposed to stay with Phoebe for a few days, I'm guessing. He was supposed to return Ayla to Trista when she got out of rehab.

      I wonder if Justin and Co. knew on Oct. 17th they were not going to return Ayla, or if they decided that after they took her.

      I wonder how much stuff he left at the apartment in October. That might give a clue as to his "plan" at the time. If he only took a couple days worth of clothes/toiletries, then maybe he, himself planned on returning her, but was pushed into keeping her. If he took a lot more of his things and only left minimal there, then maybe he planned from the begining to keep her.

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  13. Just one more thing that I've thought about for a long time but not said. Could someone have thrown her in a trash bag and taken her to Portland and put her in a dumpster somewhere? It hurts to even say it. Have LE checked the dumps?

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    1. LE has checked dumpsters in Waterville,I get the feeling they dont think he went far that night,cell pings maybe? Or the neighbor that witnessed a car? they seem to be staying close to Waterville there must be a reason they arent searching far.

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    2. iwas thinking more along the lines of the actual dumps. If Ayla went missing before the 17th there could have been trash pickup before the search ever started. Could that be what he was doing in Portland?

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  14. Ultimately the LIP policy shall shed light on the planned murder verses rage murder or a combination of both as the first plan was botched. If the policy was back dated it speaks more to a rage killing without an initial premeditated plan. Details only Derek, Justin and LE have. All three are obviously in a stand off position eye balling each other to see who blinks first.

    If it turns out Ayla ran away with Sasquatch I am going to need a full neurological work-up and a years vacation.

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    1. I don't think Ayla ran away with any fake monsters. She didn't have to run away to be with FAKE monsters because... Well I'm not going to say it, it might be viewed as being mean to one side of her family.

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    2. Lol, Kit!!
      Yeah, can't be disrespecting the fine DiP name, now, CAN we???

      Afterall: LE hasn't publicly released, for a FACT, that Justin is a confirmed m-*#&%\!

      (The Blog Po-Po Be Watchin!!©)

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    3. Oh yes VTLady. We'll have to wait for LE to confirm or deny. ;)

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  15. I wish she had run away with Sasquatch, she'd be safe. Surely Sasquatch would return her to her mother who loves and misses her. Unfortunately, whatever Justin most likely did is more permanent

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  16. Since Justin was so concerned about getting a LIP on Ayla & Derek was so willing to oblige...I wonder if the parents of the other 2 children in the home decided to purchase them too for their children? Or was it just a good idea to purchase one for Ayla?

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    1. Good question... I am sure that Ayla was the only one who has a policy on her even though Elisha has a full time job and could likely afford one more easily than Justin...

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    2. Wasnt he working in Portland when he took out the policy?

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    3. Q: "Wasnt he working in Portland when he took out the policy?"

      A: Yes.
      (Occupation: P/T "drug-dealer")

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    4. Anon 6:36PM That is a very good question. Does Elisha have a LIP on Gabby? Does Courtney have a LIP on her son? Does Pheobe have LIPs on Lance, Elisha or Justin?

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    5. Supposedly Phoebe got some type of savings type plan for Gabby, which was why Justin requested Ayla's SS#, but he instead got the LIP (which some have stated can be used as a type of savings?). So, maybe they DID get a LIP on Gabby... Maybe they really got Gabby a real savings plan... Maybe the whole story was a lie, just to get Ayla's SS#.

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  17. I hope John P. is okay, I have not seen any comments from him lately....

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    1. Oh, that's true J4A. I hope so too!

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    2. J4A and Kit, I did note that on the 19th John mentioned being too sore to sit on the edge of his seat. He did post on the 20th - I did go back and check. I was going to comment to him I hope he was taking care of himself and would feel better soon.

      John, I hope you don't mind me posting this. Just want to say I hope you are feeling better. And I hope to see you back here soon. You are being missed. :) sincerely ms.p.

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    3. I think John posted this morning on, "Bright lights, Big city.

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    4. Sorry for not posting for a few days. Had a bit of a set-back with the rehab but all is good now. It turned out to be a false alarm.

      I did alot of reading this AM since getting back home and I am truely disappointed I missed so much. I have read so many well thought out pages and comments. This is a relief that even though I missed some time, there are so many people that care so mauch for Ayla. All of you flat out ROCK!!!

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    5. BTW, It is great to be back with so many caring people. Thank you for thinking of me! And MsP, the 19th and 20th I was feeling sore with some chest pains. They admitted me for observations for a couple days. I do not mind at all what you said and Thank You for the get well wishes.

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    6. Just to add on a bit, while being laid up over the past couple of days, I did think of a new plausible scenario. I stated more earlier on this page but it involved a possible child-on-child violence being covered-up.

      I think it goes into what you have all been discussing over that time frame. Thank You again.

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    7. Yes, I missed you yesterday too John. I'm glad you are feeling better? Stay well friend.

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    8. John P - I'm so glad you are OK. My own health keeps me from being able to comment consistently but I always enjoy reading your insightful thoughts. I'm guessing we're close to the same age - it appears Ayla has touched the hearts of a wide spectrum of the human family, from young parents to grandparents, we can all relate and we all care deeply about this sweet baby.

      I had a bad health scare myself a few months ago - (in my case, a stroke.) I don't know about you, but after all of the my recent hospital"vacations, I am now even more attuned to how precious and fragile the gift of life is.

      I've never followed a missing child case before - but facing your own death has a way of not only making me more appreciative of the sacredness of every human breath, but unbelievably ANGRY when a little child's is stolen from her.

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    9. Thank you Bride and Nan, you ladies have been very kind. For me NAN, I had a few MI's, a TIA, and coded a few times back in Jan so I am still getting used to the life style changes. Being more tuned to the gift of life, as you, has really helped me to see the evidence logically, while keeping hope in my heart. J4A was aware of the effects it was having on me from before and that is why she was worried for me again. And I too am a grandparent, I get to see my third GC be born next month and I am thankful medical personnel brought me back for that and the ability to be with my family. The fact that Ayla is not with the family that loves her is what attracted my heart to this case so deeply. If I can have a second, third and fourth chance at life, SO CAN AYLA.

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    10. I'm happy to see you posting John P. I'm glad you are OK!

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    11. Thank You Kit! It is good to be back with friends.

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    12. Hi John P! Oh I am so glad you are feeling better. And Thanks for understanding my intention posting about you. :)

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    13. Hi Nan! Sorry to hear you have been unwell and I hope you are feeling better! I am so glad to see you here. I totally agree with your sentiment about what happened to this beautiful little girl named Ayla! sincerely, ms.p.

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  18. Kind of OT

    Lance already admitted to kicking JL and gave an excuse, publicly, to MS. Was I correct in reading that he is probably, or at least thinking of going with a trial by jury for this matter? Maybe he/his family is looking to get some trial experience?

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    1. I commented the same thing on a facebook page the other day when I first read that he was going to trial. I was very curious to see how the public would find him especially in light of all of this and if this will be a deciding factor on whether or not Justin pleads guilty when his day in court comes or if he will try to fight the charges. I can only hope that he will someday be charged.

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    2. That's funny that you commented the same thing!

      The thing is, it's obvious he's guilty. He admitted it. I can't think of any other reason for wanting an actual trial by jury. What's the point? He's hoping for a jury to think it was provoked or something? Guilty is guilty. With already openly admitting guilt, it's actually a waste of court time.

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    3. I think he just wants to put off jail time as long as he can.Maybe he's afraid,not a good place for someone that hurts a child.Other inmates dont like that shit.

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    4. Perhaps, Lance is banking on the good fortune of drawing an "Anthony Jury", that will move to acquit him, once his defense attorney points out that LE failed to test his mini-baseball bat for presence of GSR.

      I mean, hey: Just because no firearms *appear* to have been involved, in the JLinnell altercation, doesn't mean prosecutors get a "free pass" on performing ALL necessary forensic tests, does it???

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    5. Kit, not only did he admitted it, they went looking for JLinnell. That is the mentality of that family. If you do not like someone, just go beat the crap out of them. Beautiful, isn't it? And the taxpayers in Maine get to pay for his defense. The family's attitude? Isn't that what the state is there for, to pay our way? Make's an honest, hardworking person sick.

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    6. I agree with the assumption that Lance is again being used to find out whatever information can be learned from this trial. He knows that his sentence will be minimal in comparision to what Justin is facing. When is Lance gonna be tired of being used as a scapegoat for his little brother. It is so obvious to everyone except him. I heard weed does that to a persons brain but I didn't believe it until now.

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    7. I had the same thoughts. Justin arranged the whole Linnel beat down assault by telephone calls and text messages. Then he feeds Lance his marching orders. Seems like Justin has begun arranging accidents and situations for those with knowledge of the original crime.

      Issues above about the suddenness of the blood spill and large amount that could occur within 5-30 seconds before something has been understood to have happened appear extremely logical.

      Only Ayla down in the basement with an accident and deep wound could be an alternative.

      A single large puddle speaks to an accidental gun incident or a reaching for a dangerous object above that falls and injures.

      I've wondered what could cause a single fast large spill.
      If so how is it stemmed if at all. Still the range of 12-8 to 12-15 is wide open.

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    8. A single large spill (puddle), that also caused drips (missed during clean up). Unless there were two seperate incidents. Maybe she DID cut her foot/ankle, which would mean they are tech telling the truth, BUT leaving out the major blood loss incident?

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    9. Excellent point Kit. Goes in-line with the post about parrallel lying.

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  19. I think that the LIP was part of a plan that was not well thought out, perhaps JD cast a large net prior to Ayla's reported disappearance to purposely mislead people. There are several reasons why it is more likely to be premeditated--
    1. JD (per Trista) obtained Ayla's SSN under false pretenses (ie she was told it was for a reason other than to purchase life insurance). If it wasn't hinky, why wouldn't he tell her? If I was a single parent I'd be pissed if the other parent purchased a LIP on my child without my knowledge.
    2. In the context of the events that have occurred over the time period that JD had Ayla, the law of probability would state the odds aren't in JD's favor that this was an innocent event.
    3. In cases of missing adults when the lover purchases a large LIP on the missing, it's always a red flag. People say, but there has to be a body to collect so clearly JD didn't buy the LIP for sinister reasons; and perhaps someone with a more thought out plan would realize that. But in the case of Robyn Gardner who went missing in Aruba, her male "companion" had also purchased a LIP on her prior to their trip--but she has not been found yet either. So JD wouldn't be the first dumba$$ in history to telegraph his plans.

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  20. Makes me sick that we have to ask all these questions to each other and come up with our own opinions of what we think happened when it could all easily be answered by the one person who knows the truth. If he wants people to stop focusing on him then maybe HE should give a little information. I am sick and tired of hearing what Selena and Heidi and everyone else have to say about it, I want to hear it from HIM. At least Trista has balls enough to come out and give information about herself and now half the shit they try to use against her. For what? Being honest? It is just high time he f'in mans up and answers some of these questions. Do what a normal person does. Ask your lawyer if it is a question you can answer if it isn't say so. If it is answer the people's questions for Christ's sake. And thank God I don't get my insurance from DT. If he would've talked me into getting life insurance on my kid when I didn't have a job he would've had to hold a gun to my head before I'd do it. JMO

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      It makes me sick too. But remember, it is about Ayla and the next question may be the one that breaks the case open. Keep asking those questions. Yours could be the one!

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  21. Lance, Ayla needs you more than your brother needs you right now,Help her.Shes an innocent child ,Justin is an adult.He can speak for himself,Ayla cannot,He can defend himself ,Ayla cannot. Will you do what is best for Ayla? Please.

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    1. Amen. Someone in that household should step up and tell the truth about Ayla. Their followers talk about disrespect, how disrespectful is that to Ayla? The police say that the adults are not being honest about what happened. They are hiding information. Information that would end this drama and bring Ayla home. That, in my opinion, is not only disrespectful to Ayla, but to everyone who is praying and hoping she is safe.

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    2. I guess they feel if someone is gone its ok to disrespect them,to protect themselves.Its not ok.its gross,its cruel.Ayla deserves so much more,Lance and Justin,Phoebe,Courtney.Ayla would never hurt you.Look what you have done to her.It will not go away.

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    3. Forget pleading with Justin, Courtney, Elisha, or Phoebe, they have had 5 months to come forward and haven't helped one bit. They area all involved.

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  22. Wow! This is so interesting. I've been reading for a few weeks, but I didn't want to jump in until I read all the old posts and comments. Poor sweet Ayla, I am praying for justice for her.

    All of this seems to be exactly what Grace4Ayla has been reasoning in her comments. Thank you for putting it all together in one nice post. I think you all are really on to something here! Keep up the good work!

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  23. If it was an accident, they would tell why Ayla was bleeding.

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    1. Not if it occurred due to criminal negligence. It's typical of drug abusers to put covering up their drug use or hiding drugs ahead of helping someone, even their own children :-(

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  24. well now he is saying that she cut her heel,what happened to her scratched her ankle?How many times did we hear that from friends? Then when people said her ankle wouldnt make drops,it has changed to her heel? wherever the cut was why didnt he just come out and say that from the beginning? And why does it keep changing?

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  25. Where did he say she cut her heel?
    Ankle, heel - focus is on Ayla's leg.

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    1. Selena said she cut her heel on a hearth.That is what Justin is saying happened.

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    2. But Hedi said she scraped her ankle

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    3. And I am sure Elisha, when she decides to open that fat mouth of hers, will say Ayla "pricked her finger on a spindle" and is just in a deep sleep.

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    4. Yes throw everything out there test the public,see what works,which is it Hedi,heel,or ankle? is the hearth near Justins bed? Isnt that where the blood was found? or does that keep changing too?

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    5. I recall Heidi saying on TLLOM (when I was on there) that justin told her she scraped her ankle on the cellar stairs.

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    6. Me too Chicky,Ive heard many times she scraped her ankle.

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    7. Anon 8:39

      I thought Selena did not talk to her family about Aylas disappearance. That statement would again contradict what she has been saying all along.

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    8. I have also heard Phoebe cut her foot while doing laundry and Selena has even said she cut herself in the basement. Selena is also full of shit because she also gave the whole scenario about Ayla cutting herself on moving boxes. Also is there a Hearth in the basement by Justin's bed?

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    9. Yeah, I wonder about the hearth. I assume the hearth is either a fireplace or more likely a wood stove?

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    10. I hate to ask this and I'm sorry, but, if a person was put in a wood stove (or something like that), would their DNA or something be left for LE to find, even if the ashes were cleaned out?

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    11. I don't think a wood stove could get hot enough to effectively cremate a human so I would guess yes, there would be.

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    12. From what I reluctanly looked up, yes they can determine if there are organic human remains and can extract DNA.
      LE is aware if there is a wood stove presently or in the past, same goes for a fireplace. Minute particles would still be present and it does not take much to test so I am sure in this case if there WAS anything to be found it was. Not fun to think about.

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  26. I was once approach by an insurance agent to purchase life insurtnce. After a long explanation (I was ignorant with the whole/term, etc.) I was young, newly married, one child, we both worked full time jobs. When the agent suggested a policy for my young child, not only was I disgusted, but we felt that it was an expense that we could not afford. I can't grasp why a person with no job would take on an expense like that for a baby???? JMO

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  27. There are only three types of real kidnappings.
    a.) for profit, no demands were made for money, that can be ruled out
    b.) by those who intend to do harm to children for their own sexual gratification
    c.) by those who wish to have a child of their own and is done by unstable and pathetic persons
    ...
    Scenario a.is ruled out, that leaves b. and c.
    ...
    And Justin thinks that Ayla adapts wells and would think it is a game. No concern for her well being whatsoever.
    Make any sense ? Not to me.

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    1. Excellent point.

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    2. PlayingDevil'sAdvocateApril 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM

      You forgot "custody related" abduction---ALSO RULED OUT BY LE.
      (Just figured I'd save some random Anon-Troll the trouble!)
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  28. I have three GD's. One is the same age as Ayla. She adapts well. I babysit / babysat alot.Once in a while each one of them became inconsolable because they missed Mommy or Daddy. Even tho they see me all the time and we do fun things.
    I wonder if Ayla was missing Trista and Justin couldn't take it? Ayla and Trista spent time together and there was alot of love. To suddenly not see Trista or speak to her must have been very traumatic for the poor baby.
    Another reason I do not like what Justin did, I know little kids and Justin just wanted Trista erased from Ayla's daily life. Over child support, how much could it have been ? He wasn't a CEO a CFO or in The Donald or Warren Buffet finacial range,we're talking not a whole lot of money here as child support is income based.

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    1. So true, my ex husband paid $100.00 a month. This was set at the minimum because I did not ask for more. Taking into consideration his income at the time I think it would have only gone to $200.00 and my feeling at the time was that he should pay because he felt responsible to do so.
      He did NOT feel the need to pay more and told people he was being taken for a ride !! So some guys no matter how small the amount feel it is an injustice to THEM. Rrrrrrrr

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    2. "So some guys no matter how small the amount feel it is an injustice to THEM."

      SO true Chicky!! Sad but true!

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      Do not get these ladies upset with said self!

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  29. http://aylastillmissingnotkidnapped.blogspot.com/

    Where is Ayla Justin? Simple question, why such complicated, fantastical answers buddy?

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  30. Where is Jessica?

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    1. hahaha - that's old and been addressed ad-nauseum.

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    2. Where's Waldo?
      I never did trust that stripy-shirt wearing bastard!
      :/

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    3. Selena, you ask where jessica is, call LE and ask them.
      Now go back where you came from and post how funny you think it is when trolls (you) stop in to stir the pot.
      Honey you are not amusing or entertaining.

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    4. Selena, lieswhore, does it really matter anymore? They are a joke and every fantastical theory they shit is dumber and more nonsensical than the one that preceded it. If anything, LiesWhore is hurting Justin Dipietro. He is going to jail regardless, I can guarantee you that.

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    5. AnonymousApr 22, 2012 09:47 AM

      Do you need attention? Maybe you have trouble understanding it is the Dipietro's that have not told LE everything?

      9:47a.m., I do not believe you care about the truth, but here is a sincere answer about where JR is. Recently in an interview Trista mentioned her sister. Trista said that her sister is part of her support! So I guess that is where Jessica is - doing her best to support a sister who has a missing baby! Something way more constructive than going on a blog to distract with lies that Jessica the aunt is unaccounted for. What you are doing is so selfish in a missing baby's case!

      "Ayla Reynolds Birthday: Vigil To Be Held For Missing Maine Toddler On Day She Turns 2" (EXCLUSIVE)
      Steven Hoffer

      steven.hoffer@huffingtonpost.com

      ***Posted: 04/ 4/2012 7:55 am***

      snipped:
      "On difficult days, Reynolds counts her mother, sister and two close friends among a close-knit support group."

      This is moo, ms.p

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  31. Well, after reading all the comments I was reminded of an old saying, Birds of a feather, flock together.

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    1. Yes, they do. I for one want nothing to do with that angry rooster.
      Thank you for the reminder!

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  32. It doesnt matter where Jessica is LE said NO abduction,No kidnapping.If you want to know take it up with LE.Why ask us?

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    1. Good point Anon 11:52

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  33. Typical J-Dip clan response when confronted with a valid question. "Where is Jessica" has nothing to do with Ayla. MSP and FBI have made it pretty clear who they think is to blame and it isn't Trista, Jessica, or any Reynolds family member.

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    1. I read yout new article, it was very good. Everyone needs to check it out. ;)

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    2. I like the way your new article points out the lies and how cummulatively they will be the ultimate downfall of those involved. And how all the kidnapping suspects thrown out by the trolls is debunked from start to finish. Keep up the good work for Ayla.

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    3. WiAJ
      ITA with your 12:01 comment!
      I read and appreciate your article. I really like your talking about being a dad, and what Ayla missed out on.

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  34. J4a, good post and I too have often wondered if Justin cried to Derek for help and since no one could save Ayla, Derek decided to bail out Peaches. Something is WAY off about Derek and his family protecting Justin to this extent. Neither HEIDI OR DEREK mention Ayla, it's always about poor Justin. Frankly at this point, just the name "Justin" makes me puke. Liar needs to go to prison ASAP.

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  35. Sorry, wrong...not a "J-Dip" clan. Only side I'm on is Aylas. I must have missed something because I have not seen anything from MSP or FBI stating they have eliminated anyone from this investigation. My bad. Definitely very hostile bloggers here. Good luck.

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    1. MSP says there was no kidnapping or abduction so that eliminates alot of people.

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    2. Really? Do you have a problem with comprehending what you read? MSP have stated Justin Dipietro, Elisha Dipietro, and Courtney Roberts ARE withholding information from the investigators. How do they know this? I am going to go out on a limb and say they all failed lie detector tests for one and that the evidence from the Dipietro residence on 29 Violett doesn't support anything they claimed happened.

      I never said MSP have STATED that anyone has been "eliminated" but they sure have labeled the LIARS as such and any human with 1/4 of a brain can deduce they think those 3 definitely know what happened to Ayla while the Reynolds family has NEVER been labeled as such and they have been interviewed just like everyone else.
      Nice try. You don't fool me. If you post as an ANON, you have no credibility and no belief in the words you type, otherwise you would not be posting as ANON.

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    3. Annon 12:33,
      If you do not think Ayla is dead, and disposed of, then this really isn't the place for you.

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    4. Wherever Ayla is right now, is NOT the place for her.

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    5. Yeah, exactly. It isn't a wide open crime site dealing with every publicized crime and its not ostrich breeding farm where the flock contributes money to plaster the cities and remote countryside with neon billboards and secret ufo homing devices to convince Lady Ayla and Grandpa Sasquatch to come home.

      We accept the facts.

      Ayla is missing.
      Ayla was not abducted.
      Ayla met with foul play.

      It is called Justice For Ayla.

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    6. All I asked was a simple question, I am aware of the fact the adults in the home have not told all they know. I have faith that LE will find the truth. It breaks my heart and I pray for Ayla everyday. There are many people on here posting under Anon. And you are right this is not the blog for me.

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    7. I post under Anon. You post under Paula.
      What's the big deal? Is Paula your real name ?
      If I posted under my real first name would it
      make a difference ?
      My opionin is the same regardless.

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  36. John P, I am glad you are back and it was a false alarm.
    I like what you post and your good and caring personality shows thru in what you write. Your family is blessed with you being their Dad, Husband and Grandfather.

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    1. Thank you for your kind words. I feel blessed to be a father, husband and grandfather. It is I who is blessed to have such a loving family and caring friends.

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  37. I was searching for the link where the "loud bang" was mentioned and read a disturbing quote from Jessica in which she says that Justin told her "he, himself, told me she screamed bloody murder when they fell."

    If this is a direct quote from Justin, and not a paraphrase, I wonder if it could be an example of a type of "Parallel Lying" as was discussed on JF4's recent post about the psychic's profile of Justin?

    The quotes below can be found at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/20/ijvm.01.html

    "J. REYNOLDS: He was holding Ayla, and they fell up like two or three little steps. And he fell on top of her and her arm was broken. And he waited over -- almost 24 hours to bring her to the emergency room. I want reasons -- I want to know -- reasons to why -- why do you wait almost 24 hours to bring a child who he, himself, told me she screamed bloody murder when they fell."

    "MICHELLE SIGONA, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: The neighbor on the opposite side of the house, I guess, would be on the backside of the house from where Ayla went missing, did hear a loud noise around 3:30 in the morning. So loud, in fact, that her dog woke up, started barking."

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    1. I wish there was a quote from that neighbor...

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    2. That was the article I was referring to earlier. The loud bang happened apparently the same day the car was seen early in the morning. Things are definately tying together a little more. Thank you for finding this Nan! Awesome work.

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    3. Thanks, John P. One unexpected advantage of being laid up is I have LOTS of free time! :)

      Still wondering about Justin's reference to Ayla "screaming bloody murder" when he says he fell on her. Sorry if it seems ghoulish, but I just can't get that phrase out of my mind ever since I read it tonight.

      If I understand the parallel lying concept correctly, liars often stick to the truth as much as possible - by quoting a different, but similar occurrence, perhaps displacing the time?

      What if Justin did hear Ayla scream bloody murder ... not the night her arm was broken, but right before she was "abducted?"

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    4. Nan, I think that parallel lying probably fits in with a lot of Justin's statements (even though there's actually only been a few statements from him).

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    5. That is truely a scarey thought. I was leaning to the parrellel lye being he described the pulled leg muscle when the memory of the broken arm was "burned into his brain". Then when he thought no-one was listening he told JR the truth to essentially rub it in her face since he took Ayla from JR's home.

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    6. Here's a thought, why would Justin tell JR that Ayla screamed bloody murder when Phoebe said all she heard was a thud, and that Ayla only looked scared? If she screamed bloody murder, wouldn't you thi nk he would take her to the ER right then?

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    7. Because of the number of lies from both JD and PB, how can we know what is factual. That is the point we are making here. All we can do is evaluate the evidence, news, articles, statements, etc and reach our own opinionated conclusions. If JD were to state what happen and it be cooberated with facts, then maybe we could all have answers. Until then Ayla deserves him to provide answers and justice for whoever harmed her.

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