Saturday, April 7, 2012

Leaking Evidence, Rules of Professional Conduct and Anonymous Bloggers

Stephen Bourget
When I was at Ayla's Birthday Vigil Wednesday night, I did learn that Justin DiPietro does in fact have an attorney. I asked if it was the same attorney that Phoebe and Elisha retained and the response I got was no. I have pondered over that for the last few days trying to figure out why a family who claims to be innocent would spend money retaining two different attorneys and why not just hire a "family" attorney. If they were not anticipating any criminal charges, wouldn't it be easier and more cost effective, to refer all questions to one attorney instead of multiple attorneys? It makes no sense.


What would make sense is that the first attorney they approached, Stephen Bourget possibly, heard the case and did anticipate criminal charges. He also knew that in order to successfully defend Phoebe and Elisha, he may have to produce evidence that Justin was the perpetrator of the crime or vice versa. He would not be able to fairly represent them all without it being a conflict of interest. That scenario seemed likely to me but I am not an expert when it comes to matters of a legal nature despite some of the rumors flying around.


Knowing Justin now has a lawyer, I started wondering why would a lawyer allow Justin to post text messages from Trista online? The most reasonable answer that came to me that Justin released those messages on the advice of an attorney because they knew they would not be able to use them in court as evidence since the potential jury pool would have a chance to view them and discuss them in a public setting. I think Justin or his attorney, were hoping they could goad Trista into releasing Justin's side of the messages by insinuating that they made Trista look bad, all the while knowing that they in fact make Justin look terrible.


If Trista fell for his tactics, they would be inadmissible. If Trista released them or acknowledged that she had them then Justin would know that LE did in fact get a subpoena for the text messages because it has been stated that Trista used other people's phones at times and her own phone was a prepaid cell phone that does not store the messages online for the subscriber to view. They also do not send a monthly bill so the only way to compile all of the messages from Justin would be through a court order. Justin and his attorney would know what law enforcement has for potential evidence before charges were filed and the prosecutor would have to give the defense their discovery information. He would know what he has to work on and come up with explanations for to help his defense. If that is the case, why would Justin choose that blog and blogger to be the venue to share that information? Did that blogger coach Justin as to why it would be in Justin's best interest to release the text messages? That blogger seems to be well versed on such legalities, could the blogger be Justin's attorney or more likely a paralegal working for the attorney or possibly a trial consultant?  Readers of this blog have presented that theory already and I dismissed it. Was I wrong to do that? Are we aiding in Justin's defense by reading, commenting, and discussing that blog?


Casey Anthony's attorneys used the media to work on defense strategies. Her legal team spent countless hours going over postings on blogs, facebook, and even twitter. When the public opinion of Cindy Anthony changed, Baez and team tweaked their strategy. They tapped into people's minds and ultimately used that to win their case. Using people's emotions and forming a case of defense around those emotions proved to be a powerful tool in her case. Will it play a role in this case? It appears that it already has. Is social media pushing the limits of legal ethics? It depends on who you ask.


Oliver Wendell Holmes states, “The theory of our system is that the conclusions to be reached in a case will be induced only by evidence and argument in open court, and not by any outside influence, whether of private talk or public print.” 


Christopher Dodd states, “When the public’s right to know is threatened, and when the rights of free speech and free press are at risk, all of the other liberties we hold dear are endangered.”



I see the benefits of being able to use public opinion to adjust strategies in a case. I think it is a tool that can come in handy not just for the defense but also for the prosecution. I also feel strongly about the public's right to free speech and our right to know. But what happens when lawyers or trial consultants start feeding information into the mainstream media in an attempt to sway public opinion? Is that being done now in the case of Ayla Reynolds? Is Justin's attorney masquerading as an anonymous blogger in order to prevent his or her client from going to jail? It would not be the first time that a lawyer tried to sway public opinion by leaking evidence Aren't there rules of professional conduct that would come into play here? Is this why the blogger in question goes to such great lengths to remain anonymous? Does this blogger have something to hide? If you are doing such a great thing and feel strongly that what you are doing is legal and just, why hide behind the mask of anonymity? Especially if you have no ties to this case and don't even live in the same time zone.


Many feel that anonymous blogging is a show of cowardice. Especially when the blogger hides behind anonymity to avoid the rules of professional conduct and common sense. When a blogger stays anonymous in order to spew offensive and obnoxious comments they are acting cowardly.


 A good propagandist knows that repetition can make a lie true. It isn’t public debate when anonymous posters slander their opposition, or encourage violence. It’s time for these cowards to make themselves known.


Not all anonymous bloggers are cowards. Many people feel embolden to join discussions online that they may not have joined in before because they are shy or unsure of themselves. People also choose to remain anonymous because of the increase of violent threats that are made by others who do not share their viewpoint. 


I initially started the blog with the intent of remaining anonymous. I did not hide behind anonymity because I was ashamed of what I was saying or that I was saying something offensive or obnoxious. I did it to protect my family and myself from repercussion. I did not go to the extremes that others do and was outed very early on. I am glad I was. I am glad that I get to take credit for what I write, I am proud to put my name behind it. However, no matter what lengths someone goes to try to remain anonymous, no one is ever really anonymous, not bloggers and not blog owners. In fact, judges have shown they are willing to unmask bloggers by issuing subpoenas



"The civil system is set up by default to allow for the disclosure of information," Electronic Frontier Foundation staff attorney Matt Zimmerman told Ars. "By default, unless someone objects to a specific request for info, someone's identity is most likely to be disclosed."
In a civil lawsuit, a litigant is often allowed to send out subpoenas in the name of the court—without the court's prior approval—to Google, Yahoo, or wherever in order to request information about someone, Zimmerman explained. This can even be done before filing a lawsuit in some states, and some entities use it as a way to find out who their detractors are without ever drawing up a complaint. If the accused user doesn't file an objection within some period of time (Google's is 20 days), the company will usually go ahead and turn that information over.
That is certainly good information to keep in mind when blogging about others while hiding behind an anonymous moniker and rerouted ip addresses. Even if a case of defamation won't hold up in court, it is still possible to find out who someone is without even filing the complaint and if that blogger ends up being someone who is bound to rules of professional conduct that could open a whole new can of worms. I would venture to say there are probably a few people who may find this information to be useful. I hope Trista takes note of it or Ashley and Al Pouliot and the countless other people who have been attacked on that blog. I certainly am glad I uncovered this information. I may not have a solid case for defamation or libel but I would think this case could certainly benefit from unmasking this anonymous blogger. It may not help Justin's legal defense much and he may be looking for new representation soon or in the least, his lawyer may be looking for a new paralegal or trial consultant. Who knows, I could be way off mark but in the off chance that I am not, I urge you all to avoid that blog like the plague until it is shut down for good. I also urge you to check out Answers for Ayla and what Jeff will be posting today. I think you will find it interesting as well. 




























158 comments:

  1. The operator over there is a cagey player and the real strategist (Boss) inspiring the operation might never post at all to avoid the detection of linear narrative signatures, if it is an actual group endeavor.

    The introduction of the text messages was a bold move that seemed timed to coincide with the two year birthday mark.

    The structure I detect is:

    Strategist - Initiator of operations.
    Tactician - The operator of overviews.
    X to X+ Contributors - Common Cause Collaborators.

    So far they haven't really done anything extraordinary to make them relevant to the case. FBI knows who JSTL is.

    The oscillation between characters is a standard cyber ploy of one individual writing a free form stream of consciousness and then dividing their work product by
    category of/or theme.

    Although...

    Getting those text messages had to come from Justin.
    Releasing only half of the progression was a gambit.
    So Justin may be playing a person who is playing him.

    So...
    Justin gave them the messages - he is sweating publicly.
    The blog was/is now connected peripherally to the crime.
    I still have not dismissed that they are undercover FBI.

    Until Justin is charged its all posturing.
    By the fall a small depression shall appear if Ayla is lightly buried. If they got someone distant to help in the disposal who had their wits about them the body might not be retrievable. That is the final piece MSP is sluething that shall probably wait for a team decision until after the Fall election that decides the next District Attorney.

    The entire progression is a test case of how a public system designed to respond to human needs and a legal system designed to respond to human behaviors is currently functioning. A lot of people are invested in getting it right because their status is on the line.

    Good article.

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    1. Awesome, honestly! Can you reply: since you state that the FBI knows the blogs id and apparently is not ready to expose - can you at least tell concerned readers if the JSTL "artist" was active on the internet before the Ayla Reynolds case, or have they only " surfaced" in response to this case?

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    2. I do not believe the blogger is F.B.I. I do believe all branches of L.E. involved in this case are aware of the site. I believe the LIES blogger has posted many disgusting, hateful things that only someone with a deep hatred for Trista Reynolds would write. I believe the peak of her sadistic side was exemplified with the posting of a picture of Ayla with a quote that read "Mommy,why are you hiding me in here? Please let me out, it is dark in here."

      That little doozie will cost the LIES Blogger her freedom IMO. That showed an intimate personal connection to the case and no care for Ayla as well as a want-- to pin Ayla's disappearance on Trista. In that one fell swoop, she totally annihilated her "fake" objectivity and took the gloves off, something she had wanted to do for some time.

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    3. It's not unrealistic to believe that if LIES-Obscure is that hateful to Trista, that the blogger could be the person who did something to Ayla. Speculation of course, but it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Her hatred and mean posts toward Trista and others show her potential to actually do evil.

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    4. Off the meds again, eh Colin?

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  2. J4A

    Quick question, do you know if Maine is one of the states that Mr. Zimmerman was talking about, and if so is it possible for the Reynolds/Hansons to ask a judge for a disclosure request of the other site bloggers? I find it kind of ironic that the maternal family supporters and supporters of Ayla are not hiding thier identities or thier member comments like the paternal family supporters. And when they cross over, they still have to remain anons! If they feel so strongly in thier beliefs, why hide your identity so strongly.

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    1. John P. Amen to that. If they feel so strongly that their beliefs are correct and true, why hide their identities.

      They hide their identities because they are cowards. They attack other people and hide behind the Anon names. It makes these smallminded people feel superior. It's really quite tragic.

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    2. Gee, is Hiden In Plain Site your name or identity?

      I use Anon, and I have never attacked anyonme.
      There could be other reasons.

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    3. Again, if you feel as strongly as the rest of us do about this situation and Ayla there is no reason to hide behind Anon's no one here judges people for their comments other than of course the vulgar ones, and those attacking other commenters anyway.

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    4. And of course, ANYONE who disrespects Ayla, the Effort to find Ayla, the effort to find justice for Ayla, and blatantly disrespectful to the family that is doing ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN to Bring Ayla Home!

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    5. HidinInPlaneSiteApril 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM

      Anon 11:44 AM I was talking about the anonymous posters who attack, harass, use foul language and generally try to intimidate people. If you don't do that, then I was not talking about you. There are valid reasons to stay anonymous and most people can tell the difference between the nasty posters and the ones who are not.

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    6. @Tammy you state "no one here judges people for their comments other than of course the vulgar ones, and those attacking other commenters anyway"

      Maybe YOU dont but I guarentee that if I stated something that was anti maternal side and pro paternal side I would be jumped like a cat in heat and forced to leave the this site, even if I posted logical questions and statements. I understand why the people that are pro paternal family stay away from these sites. When I see some of them post logical questions or explainations for things they are ridiculed and sometimes threatened. They have their personal information posted here and the blogger lets it happen. I read this site because it is informative and gives me ideas and things to think about but I will say I also read the Lies blog for the same reason. I have not been given enough solid evidence to support either parental theory and until LE gives me more information to make a sound judgment I wont.

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    7. Sounds reasonable Emily! I can agree with your point of view. I will say though that no personnal information has been published other than Toris since I started reading this site. I will admit I have seen several guesses to who the other blogger is but nothing has been confirmed.

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    8. Emily A,
      I have not seen one single LOGICAL question nor comment from a "pro paternal family" blogger.

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    9. At Emily A - Someone asked me a question an "anon" about NY law and I responded from a legal standpoint, next thing I knew I am the topic of a new "blog post" at JSTL, hmmmm funny isn't it?? I don't think so, and I won't play the game. Pro-paternal has nothing to do with that site they just want to continue to attack everyone here for their opinion, and if you asked a logical question without anger or vulgar I for one would like to know who attacked you because I don't believe I have ever read an unjust attack on anyone here

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  3. J4A,

    I just read Jeffs post from the Lost and Missing Foundation. I left my thoughts in a comment on the A4A site but I wanted to say Thank You for alerting us to todays message. The grieving process is never the same for any two people. We can now see how much Triasta is grieving, in her way, with her family, and still finding the strength to take care of Raymond while never giving up hope of bringing Ayla home. I am glad that Mike and Ken of WGAN are not syndicated here and I did not hear thier comments. I will not listen to them either. All I can say is that Trista is grieving every day and for those of who want to criticize and judge her for grieving, SHAME ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!

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  4. Thanks for the ChuckleApril 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    This article by Tori is laughable. It is so silly that I laughed out loud when I read it. Tori clearly does not know what she is talking about and is just guessing and making things up. What Tori posts is mostly fantasy and ignorance. I can guarantee you that no self respecting defense lawyer would ever run a blog like JSTL.

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    1. Yet you still deny who is actually running it? It is YOU who is laughable. It is YOU who has plenty to answer for and it is, you guessed it, YOU who will have your chance to answer questions and this time you will not be given the option of hidng.

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    2. Hello TLLOM /JSTL cult member. Is Tori hitting too close to home for you?

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    3. I'll go you one further Chuckles, no self-respecting PERSON would run a blog like JSTL.

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    4. Chuckles

      If you read the article she is asking a question. She did not state that "it is" a lawyer running the site, just that there is a possiblity that information is being fed to the blogger by them, or an errand boy for them or maybe it isn't at all. Read this direct quote for the story:

      Readers of this blog have presented that theory already and I dismissed it. Was I wrong to do that? Are we aiding in Justin's defense by reading, commenting, and discussing that blog?

      And with that said, have a nice day and focus on finding Ayla, seeking justice for Ayla, and stop trying to stir the s**t because it wont work.

      BTW, if that was all you took from that article you either didn't read the whole thing or you are truely illiterate.

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    5. AND ONE MORE TIME why hide behind a ridiculous name? Why not admit who you are??? Other than the fact that you would then have to put yourself out there for continuous twitter/facebook/and blog attacks because you are an absolute IDIOT!

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    6. No self respecting lawyer would be sexting people who don't want his creepy advances either...*cough*PhoebeandElisha*cough

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    7. Yeah, maybe it's a lawyer who gets his information from the blogs.

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    8. Yeah, but that lawyer is not the same lawyer representing Justin. I am very much like J4A in wondering what the deciding factor actually was for different lawyers. And I have only come up with one reasonable guess as well "conflict of interest".

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  5. From a legal perspective, admissibility is not dependent on whether the information has been publicly disclosed (presuming there was no misconduct involved in disclosing). It could be grounds for a change of venue and in all likelihood that motion's going to be made anyway.

    As far as the legal team or someone acting on their behalf leaking info to taint a prospective jury pool, that would be problematic but it would not necessarily keep the evidence from being heard. Think about it- if leaking info was enough to kick it out of the case, a guilty party could leak the most damaging evidence to keep it out of court then argue it was prejudicial. Attorneys are required to act in accordance with a code of ethics and if they don't, they are subject to consequences.

    This is an interesting time because as you point out,social media is playing a new and largely unregulated and heretofore unanticipated role in legal cases, particularly criminal cases. There may be a need for new disclosures- I can see the benefits of a rule requiring a legal team and all associated with it to either refrain altogether from commenting in social media about the case either directly or indirectly, or requiring them to track and disclose such comments. The latter would be pretty unwieldy but seems entirely reasonable. Another way to approach it would be to ban discussion of theories of culpability or evidence in the blogosphere by those involved in the case.

    With so many MSM outlets now willing to print unsubstantiated, anonymous comments, however, does it really matter? Maybe jurors are just going to have to learn to ignore a lot more than they used to.

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  6. I don't know about that other place.
    i know that in the CA case, IDEAS for her defense came from the blogs. And during the trial public opinion was looked at in real time and then George was thrown under the bus. The blogs were obsessed with who the Daddy was and George was the candidate. They also had avery stupid jury.
    ...
    Those texts were not helpful to Justin. That place is not helpful to Justin. Justin is not helpful to Justin. The fact that he has an attorney and that it is different than Phoebe / Elisha's attorney is pretty standard.

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    1. "Justin is not helpful to Justin." That's saying it like it is.

      JSTL is not helpful to anyone.

      Anyone identify WHO Justin's attorney is?

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  7. Why can't Word Press shut down the other place ?
    Why don't they ? Can they?

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    1. JSTL is not a WordPress based blog site.
      It's a Blogger.com provided through Google, I believe.
      Unless WordPress is an affiliate company of Google, I don't see any possible connection to JSTL blogsite?

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    2. I have no idea and I am done even looking at
      the posts over there, they upset me. TMZ and Topix
      used to upset me, they don't any more because I have even not even peeked in 5 years. That was my
      solution for me. At one point, I discontinued
      my cable service for 6 months for my own sanity.

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  8. I believe it is a matter of time before either LE or the Google Bloggers Term of Service will shut that site down and hopefully soon. Join us though in boycotting that site until it is shut down.

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    1. I was up for boycotting JSTLs & TTLOM about 2 months ago!

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    2. @ John P.
      I have stated this before and I will state it again. If Google were to shut down JSTL they would in fact have to shut down this site. Honestly this site would stand a better chance of being shut down than the other site. This site has had peoples names and addresses and other defamitory comments posted. The only reason people dont like the other site is its not a site that wants the fathers head on a platter. I personally like both sites because I get information that is pro Trista and info that is pro Justin. I would just say if you dont like it dont read it. I dont comment over there so much but I do read it and I read here all the time. I havnt made any judgements against either parent and feel for both sets of families.

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    3. Emily,

      I have followed this site since my heart attack. There are only three addresses I have seen, the Jessicas and Phoebes which are a matter of public record and Tori and her families address. That was not public record until the blogger of the other site, or an anon from that site, posted Toris info. So I would say you have seen more personnal info here but it is solely because they outted Tori and her family members. I have actually seen Tori public defend the right to remain anonymous on behalf of LIES and yet she still was outted by Lies. Just my observations in the 3 months I have viewed this page

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    4. And if I could add, the majority of us do not go there just because we want JD's "head on a platter" though it would be nice. We go there to correct those who are blatantly disrespectful to Ayla. I have been there twice to post and it was disrespect of Ayla that got me posting those times.
      The reason I do not go there normally is because the commenters there do not seem to follow all know facts. They try to pick bit and pieces of 1 one and then say the whole of the pot is empty. vidence points to a crime being execute by one of the three in that house that night. What was the crime and who did it specifically has yet to be released.

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    5. The author of this blog was cyberstalked, personal information was posted with her identity and
      posts were made with MALICE directed at the author.
      Where I live ( Canada ) this would be a cyber crime.

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    6. Anon 6:58

      I think you have alot of people agreeing with you, me included. Read further down the page and you will see just how many.

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    7. I know. It's just that the laws differ from country
      to country and state to state.
      I did look at the Canadian laws today, didn't
      even know they had revised them. Guess they had to because of all the social media sites these days.
      ......
      Here, it is the cyberstalking and then the MALICE and hte INTENT.
      And the disclosure of real names.
      Any person who cyberstalks is dangerous.
      ...
      Have a Happy Easter John P.

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    8. I think the big difference, Maine has explicitly included torment and emotional distress within the Cyberstalking Laws. And in that phrase, malice and intent are not mentioned.

      You have a Happy Easter as well. I am hoping that today will bring good news that Ayla will be found and reunited with her family on Easter Sunday!

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    9. You are not alone Emily.
      I haven't made any judgements against either parent either. I think there is a lot more people who haven't than some might think.
      I read several blogs concerning this Ayla's case. I've seen questional material on ALL of them, at least what "I" consider questional material (post & comments).
      I just consdider it part of the internet scene now a days.
      I do take informtion away from each site though.

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  9. Hatred breeds tragedy- I have to believe if the FBI were involved the posts wouldn't be so venomous. It's quite possible to be provocative without being vile, inconsistent and malicious.

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    1. Or is it more possible that the blogger believes that the FBI is not assisting the MSP. I believe they are! All it takes is a phone call, and I have yet to see the FBI turn down a request for assistance.

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    2. Hard to say if that blogger "believes" anything or just throws out garbage in all directions, John. But whether the FBI is presently involved or not (I believe they are also, btw) they will be if the evidence points to federal crimes like interstate drug trafficking or baby selling or money laundering via insurance policies.

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    3. Well forever curious, I believe the FBI has been involved twice already, once with a false kidnapping claim and then again with the release of the texts, which that blogger claims to be out of state! If the drugs come into play the MDEA has free reign to step in at any time so that would be #3 if they do file drug charges.

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    4. I only read over there if I hear you guys talking about them. I am 100% wired to whatever I focus my attention on and pick up to much extraneous information. So I hadn't really analyzed JSTL's position since the early start-up period. But on reflection it is too cheesy and superfluous for an LE trap for the D-Crew.

      For a certain amount of money and time she can be unmasked.
      T. has my real name and address if that is what she wants done.

      There are unintended side effects to what JSTL is doing in that she is helping Trista and Jeff to harden their intent into seeing this as a pursuit that is equivalent to an all out war for justice that shall be conducted by the governing rules and laws of the State of Maine and The United States.

      In that sense it is natural for Trista and Jeff to be slow to get up to speed compared to those not directly affected by Ayla mysteriously disappearing. Similar to John P. and several dozen others I have committed to the full measure be that a confession tomorrow or admitting many years from now when dying that I failed in the pursuit of justice for Ayla.

      I backed T's efforts because I saw in her a tenacious warrior.
      I shall become more useful as the mood of resignation sets in that Ayla is gone and won't be coming home.

      The longest case I ever participated in was 24 years to catch and imprison the criminal and cost his backers enormous cash losses. I am no stranger to the long haul and the fog is slowly clearing publicly regarding exactly what happened, same for Trista and Jeff, eventually a hardened resolve to follow through with each grinding step until Justin is separated from society and experiences the punishment retribution and deterrence that the legal system is set up for, to deliver and administer impartially, and without cruel and unusual excesses which only pervert the ones seeking justice.

      In this situation it is a logical presumption that.

      Ayla was not abducted.
      Ayla's blood was spilled.
      Justin was the last person to see Ayla.

      Logic implies he might be connected to a crime.
      The fact that JSTL see's it differently is curious.
      I've learned through age "most things come out in the wash"
      I guess that includes stains but also pocket contents forgotten.

      Its early in the battle.
      With both sides on opposite hills reconnoitering the other.
      I guess the question that could now be posed is what level of commitment can JSTL the hidden person bring to the battlefield.

      Trista owns those messages and did not release the copyright.
      If I send you a letter you own the paper and envelope but I own the actual words and content covered whether copyrighted or not.

      This I know from friends in publishing. It is straight forward.


      Seen from a distant mountain top plateau Ayla already arrived laid waste to her opponents destinies and departed undetected as a great warrior from the eternal realms of spirit-info clouds. Even the cop didn't want to be forced by stealth into doing what he ultimately had to do. Ayla has "Presence."
      I am an extremely jaded shop worn person and Ayla impressed me beyond description other than to wax poetic in silliest excess.

      The wheels of justice grind slowly but they shred the guilty.

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    5. HBT

      Your comment says it all. I Thank You for thinking enough of my words and what you can see of my heart in my words, to consider me a fellow supporter and fighter for Ayla. We will never stop fighting until Ayla is with her loving family.I will say that as long as we never forget Ayla we can not fail.
      As with Trista and Jeff, I believe in my heart this precious Angel will be home with her loving family and Justice will be delivered to those responsible. Always Hope, Keep Believing, and never stop fighting to Bring Ayla Home.

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  10. Nice Post

    "It would not be the first time that a lawyer tried to sway public opinion by leaking evidence" .

    hmmm, I renmember reading on AFA, that they have an attorney. I wonder what kind of advice their attorney is giving them about some of the evidence that they release.
    I guess it is a fair question for both sides.

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    1. The thing is though they haven't released "evidence" that would hurt them, they have released some things to defend there STAND on where AYLA is or who may have done something to her, AND further more, Jeff is no dummy I am sure they have gotten permission from (a) AN ATTORNEY or (b) LAW ENFORCEMENT before doing so. I am a Paralegal and I can tell you for FACT that AFA has done nothing wrong but that other one, THEY are really on the verge of criminal charges at least if they were in NY they would be anyway not sure on Maine Laws but in NY the'd have them by the balls already.

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    2. ITA Tammy, that is the difference. The maternal side is cooperating with LE so I am sure they are in contact prior to posting potential evidence. Why do you thin they were not baited into releasing Justins side of the texts. They were obtained by subpeona so they are probably considered evidence.

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    3. Tammy, why don't you spell out what JSTL is doing that is criminal in NY for discussion purposes?

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    4. Tammy,
      "they haven't released "evidence" that would hurt them"..... I agree. Why would they release evidence that would hurt therm?

      "they have released some things to defend there STAND on where AYLA is or who may have done something to her"...I agree. That is my point.

      "AND further more, Jeff is no dummy",... I don't think he is either.

      "I am sure they have gotten permission from (a) AN ATTORNEY"..... That was my question, what kind of advice they were recieving from their attorney, pertaining to what they are releasing.

      "but that other one, THEY are really on the verge of criminal charges"..... For what?
      This I don't understand. Everything I've seen on that site is opinion based. Except the released text messages, from Jan. & FEb.
      How do we know that they pertain to the investigation? What makes you think they are any kind of evidence?
      Aren't they Justin's property? Can't he do what he wants with them?
      Just as Trista has with documents AFA releases?

      I for one like to look at all sides of this case. I'm trying to understand all sides.

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    5. Anon 2:33

      I see most of your points. The one thing I would add though is that the texts were between two adults and one of the bloggers pointed out that Maine is a two-party authorization state. From what I understand, that means Trista would have had to agree to have them released. The fact that JD released this through a third party and then that third person posted them publicly. That would with my understanding be the difference. Trista released her daughters records. As a parent of a child, she is within her legal right.
      Weather or not the full transcripts are evidence, will be determined when and if LE takes actions for the post. JMO
      I too look at both sides but this is what I am seeing. I am not the paralegal though so!

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    6. Thanks John P. for your reply.
      2 party authorization in Maine I didn't know or think about.

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    7. Lies probably thinks that because she is in another state that the law doesn't apply to her

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    8. http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/telephone.htm

      Maine is not a two-party state.

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    9. I stand corrected. Either I mis-read the post or it was incorrect. I can not find it now so I will say I misread the post.

      If the LIES blogger is in a 2 party authorization state, would she fall under this law? I say if because we only know she claims to be from Texas but it is still unknown.

      2nd question, in your opinion, do you feel as I do that the cyber-stalking, bullyin and/or harassment laws could be applied in this case.

      http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/telecom/cyberstalking-and-cyberharassment-laws.aspx

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    10. http://www.mainelegislature.org/ros/LOM/LOM123rd/123S1/PUBLIC685.asp

      This site is actually very much on point and a valid arguement of cyberstalking according to Maine Laws.

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    11. I don't believe the lie that "Lies" is from another state.

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    12. I think the comment was on my post To The Many Readers of J4A but I am not positive. I don't think the 2nd party authorizations laws apply but I absolutely think that the cyberstalking/bullying laws do and you are absolutely right. :)

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    13. J4A

      Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for misreading the post. I posted a link to the Cyberstalking Law for Maine which I read twice to make sure. I hope they can file a charge for each count of toment and emotional distress.

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    14. Just for the record you should know who you are talking to Anon 2:20 and 2:33 NY recognizes internet defamation per say the "blog" about Tori just for one!

      What Are Defamation, Libel and Slander?
      Generally speaking, defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a printed or fixed medium, such as a magazine or newspaper.

      Typically, the elements of a cause of action for defamation include:

      A false and defamatory statement concerning another;
      The unprivileged publication of the statement to a third party (that is, somebody other than the person defamed by the statement);
      If the defamatory matter is of public concern, fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and
      Damage to the plaintiff.
      In the context of defamation law, a statement is "published" when it is made to the third party. That term does not mean that the statement has to be in print.

      Damages are typically to the reputation of the plaintiff, but depending upon the laws of the jurisdiction it may be enough to establish mental anguish.

      Most jurisdictions also recognize "per se" defamation, where the allegations are presumed to cause damage to the plaintiff. Typically, the following may consititute defamation per se:

      Attacks on a person's professional character or standing;
      Allegations that an unmarried person is unchaste;
      Allegations that a person is infected with a sexually transmitted disease;
      Allegations that the person has committed a crime of moral turpitude;
      While actions for defamation have their roots in common law, most jurisdictions have now enacted statutes which modify the common law. They may change the elements of the cause of action, limit when an action may be filed, or modify the defenses to an action for defamation. Some may even require that the defendant be given an opportunity to apologize before the plaintiff can seek non-economic damages.

      Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. For example, Ariel Sharon sued Time Magazine over allegations of his conduct relating to the massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Although the jury concluded that the Time story included false allegations, they found that Time had not acted with "actual malice" and did not award any damages.

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    15. LearningEverydayApril 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

      That the statement was made with "actual malice"

      Tammy, do you mean like when a blogger posts :sarcasm:snicker: etc. and it shows that what the lied about they knew was false? It was pretty easy to assertain the bloggers "actual malice" intent. Interesting. Of course, even if that was 'deleted' by the blogger, it is still on the backup of the servers. Very interesting.

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    16. Because it was already done and already posted for many to see and read defamation occurred as did cyberstalking and bullying. If you haven't been here long, I'll explain that the malice and intent of harming has been EXTREME! They have not asked questions, they have routinely tried to defame harass and bully anyone that remotely favors one side over the other, and yes everything they have wrote everything you write is stored on your hard drive, you may delete it but it's still there. It can be proven.

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    17. And really what is funny about a blog post stating TORI GIFFORD IN JAIL. Do you think thats funny would you like that posted all over the internet? Especially when it's false?

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    18. And FYI if you intend on using me as an example on your blog JSTL ... Understand this, What you are doing is WRONG! I am not an attorney, I am a Paralegal, I do not give legal advice, but I can tell you that you should get some ... and fast! If you continue to use my name, I will hunt you down and sue the ever living piss out of you! This is me telling you that you have NO right to use my opinions, my posts, or anything about me in your blog ever! HEED WARNING! I work for a VERY high profile attorney here, and although there are federal laws pertaining to defamation, slander, and libel there are also laws pertaining to harrassment and cyberstalking and bullying and I for one am not afraid of you or afraid to take this to the next level! Your BS with Trista has nothing to do with me I was just stating the facts as to NY law.

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    19. Learnin Everyday,

      I do not believe what that blogger did was sarcasm or snickering. It was done intentionally to torment and cause emotional distress. When she spoke of Tori's first born son and gave personnal information concerning him, that is definately cyberstalking and defamation and deserves to be prosecuted.

      Tori

      I am sorry for bringing this up again. I know you have many instances to support filing charges and each of them must touch you deeply, but what I have witnessed this to me was the most attrocious and is definately not the sarcasm or snickering the poster was referring to.

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    20. John P when I learned that my post in reply to another poster was used to defame and ridicule me for what I am my blood was boiling those IDIOTS have no regard for anyone! I too am sorry Tori, but what they did to you was wrong! I don't believe it should have been done. I will stand my ground for what they are saying about me now, but when it comes to you Tori, hit them where it hurts, I hope you do.

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    21. I am sorry you are being ridiculed Tammy. Saying what you know to be true in your heart and for where you live, is the true definition of the 1st Amendment. Opinionated people who, as you say, have no regard for anyone or what those people may hold dear in thier lives, use Cyberstalking and Harrassment under the guise of the 1st Amendment. Trista and Tori hold thier families dearest of all, and to torment and cause emotional distress at the expense of the families of these people is criminal. Trista actions and Toris efforts here, as well as several other ways, prove that point clearly. Like you, Jeff Trista and Tori will stand tall, as they all have throughout this ordeal, and Justice for Ayla will prevail above all else.

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  11. "People also choose to remain anonymous because of the increase of violent threats that are made by others who do not share their viewpoint."
    Exactly. For me. I used to post on a crime blog 5 or 6 years ago where membership was required to post. You gave your real name and email addy to the Admin. The blog went wrong and I was phished via Pay Pal. Then I got porn to my real email addy. People were reported to their employers for posting during the day from their work. And I wasn't the only one where something upsetting came into their real life. My screen name was attacked on other blogs and it upset me, even tho it was bs. And I could not even respond on the other blog becasse I was not a " member ".

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    1. Thank you, there are many legitimate reasons for posting anonymously.

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    2. I hope no one thought I was calling all anonymous posters cowards, I agree there are many reasons to remain anonymous and most of the contributors here have chosen to remain anonymous. The difference is those who hide behind their anonymity to post hateful and offensive things or those that know what they are doing is ethically wrong so they try to cover their identities. I could have set this blog up so only those who sign up for it can read it and post on it and I knew if I did that I would be missing out on valuable insught.

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    3. Anon 12:39 PM I totally agree. There are reasons for rational people to want to be anonymous in their postings. There are some very vicious and nasty people out there. They have no problem cyberstalking or for all we know, real life stalking. Better to stay safe. One can be anonymous and still post reasonably. It's easy enough for people to separate who is insane/nasty and who is reasonable/kind.

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  12. Lies=Amelia Noel Sobel???

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    1. No disrespect intended here. I have seen and been told that LIES uses this tactic to move people further away from her true identity. Can you support this with facts and if so, can you send this proof to J4A since she is one of the 2 (Trista being the other) that has been so harshly attacked by LIES.

      J4A
      Sorry if you prefer you didn't want me to post this.

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    2. Oy vey! SMH

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    3. That last comment wasn't aimed at you, John P. But you got in before I posted it.

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    4. That's cool but if you could tell me what SMH means I would apprecate it?

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    5. SMH=Shake my head

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    6. I almost guessed right. I was thinking Smack My Head as in as Gibbs Slap

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    7. John, I have no problem with what you posted. I encourage people to send me proof they may have or feel is relevant, the investigator I have working on this will be able to sort through what is relevant and what isn't. justiceforayla@yahoo.com

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    8. Thanks J4A,

      I just never know when LIES is visiting using anon to post on this site. I am glad you are able to work with an investigator to get to the bottom of that bloggers site. The cyberharrassment she has employed against you has to stop.

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    9. Oy Vey is listed as being one of Amelia Sobel's novels. A pen name. Another connection, "LiesLiesLies" "Her Lies, Their Lies, My lies."

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    10. Very interesting connection Chicky! I will have to do some research, I would be interested in know where she is from.

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    11. Yes, that's why I used it. She has used Lies in many of her aliases. . . .I think #Lies was/is her Twitter hashtag.

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    12. John, you can start here, http://radionewz.net/

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    13. As I said Amelia is a pen name from what I could find out and listed as NY. You will see many connections when you look her up.

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    14. You will see where she plays BOTH sides in separate forums, adds her own spins to imflame, had one site shut down due to copyright laws where she stole. Apparently changed the wording to get bby that. And there was speculation about how she gained inside info without seeming to know the parties involved. Sound familiar?

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    15. Chicky I see where Amelia Sobel is the pen name for Holey Briley. She apparently did very similar things in the Casey Anthony case and apparently got over 100,000 dollars and was able to write a book about it. If this is the same person I hope she is stopped quick.

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    16. Too familiar to be a coincidence! There has to be something to this claim. I also read where this Holly Briley is from Ohio. Does anyone know if she still lives there? Just wondering how close the law there is to Maine?

      But I think with any cyberstalking charges, this would allow the FBI to become involved if the choose. It was being carried out over a public medium intra-state!

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    17. Was the Holly Briley confirmed? Because I have a differant idea.

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    18. I read on 1 site that she confessed to the person writing the article. That doesn't mean anything though. I did see a comment that she and her husband Jon Briley were the first to expose CA though. So maybe she was admitting it in that article.

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    19. If you guys want more info on Ameila or whatever that nutjobs name is go to Radionewz..you can find the link if you click on my name...Holly and John are different people than Sobel. There's so much drama involved with that whole "who sold the videos" of Casey and whatever...it's head spinning. I'm actually really hoping it's not that crazy bitch cause if it is, you'll see some real insanity now...she's so fucking crazy we're all better off doin what we say...boycott that shithole.

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    20. Couldn't agree with you more, Shannie. And yes, Holly and John Briley are different people than Lies. They were playing both sides to get info and make sure Casey Anthony or whoever wasn't able to profit from the video leak. Sobel is from NY or NJ I believe. She's a vile person and a boycott is likely the only way. When she sees there is no money to be made shit stirring here she will move on. She's wrapped up in the Trayvon Martin case currently. . .looking for a way to insert herself and make a buck. Vile.

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    21. Thanks Shannie,

      The boycott is in place regardless of who LIES is. I wont go there again if I can control my temper.

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    22. Oh and Sobel is porn actress to boot...lol

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    23. *is a porn actress...*clears throat

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    24. http://radionewz.net/2012/04/amelia-sobels-porn-roots/


      And here ya go. Thank me later ;)

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    25. Let me clarify...I don't know if she was in porn, but she is def into it, in a pretty sick way. And there is a plethora of info about all that over on the link above....But I like thinking she's that low. If she want's to say shit like, Tori is in jail...well it's open season then is it?

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    26. Shannie, is Sobel her real name? or is her last name Brooks?, with relatives, or maybe its her-residing in texas?

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    27. Well from what I know Amelia Sobel is just a pen name she took from a dead writer. Classy huh? Amy Brooks is the broads supposed name...but when you get into to it, there's gonna be a Brianne Chantal and the Hollys ...it get's really messy.

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    28. I didn't come across any Chantals or Hollys but I followed the photos she posted and ended up with an address in Arlington Texas. Older woman, maybe mom.

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    29. Lies is not this Amelia sobel lady.

      Justiceforayla, you are sooo worried about lies cyberstalking you, but you are allowing the same thing to go on on your blog. If Blogger shuts down Lies, they will shut u down too.

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    30. Chantel is similar to one of Tammy Merrill s alias.

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    31. Amelia Sobel is anything but a lady...

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  13. Let's see if Justin or any of his supporters can answer this.. I doubt it but I figured I would give them a chance..

    http://aylastillmissingnotkidnapped.blogspot.com/2012/04/where-is-ayla-justin.html

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    1. Check out the new blog site.
      It's off to a powerful start, calling-out the DiPs, front and center!

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    2. new Blog site?

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    3. Love it! The more awareness to Ayla the better!

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    4. Oh I found it.

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  14. I never read that blog from what I have read on other blogs they are disgusting and I will not read over there they will be their own undoing of that I am sure
    Prayers and hope for Ayla Trista and the Reynolds family always

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  15. To say to all, if in NY Justin giving permission for those texts to be posted when they were from Trista to him with the intent that he would be the only one reading them created a situation where a. her reputation could have been harmed, and
    b. Many states have enacted "cyberstalking" or "cyberharassment" laws or have laws that explicitly include electronic forms of communication within more traditional stalking or harassment laws. In addition, recent concerns about protecting minors from online bullying or harassment have led states to enact "cyberbullying" laws. This chart identifies only state laws that include specific references to electronic communication. However, other state laws may still apply to those who harass, threaten or bully others online, although specific language may make the laws easier to enforce. This chart classifies the various state laws addressing these three different types of online behaviors, as described below.
    Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet, email or other electronic communications to stalk, and generally refers to a pattern of threatening or malicious behaviors. Cyberstalking may be considered the most dangerous of the three types of Internet harassment, based on a posing credible threat of harm. Sanctions range from misdemeanors to felonies.

    Cyberharassment. Cyberharassment differs from cyberstalking in that it is generally defined as not involving a credible threat. Cyberharassment usually pertains to threatening or harassing email messages, instant messages, or to blog entries or websites dedicated solely to tormenting an individual. Some states approach cyberharrassment by including language addressing electronic communications in general harassment statutes, while others have created stand-alone cyberharassment statutes.

    JSTL has done all of this and above post defamation of character to Tori, Trista, Jeff, and several others throughout. IN NY they'd already have charged them! I wish they would in Maine but again, not sure of the laws there.

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    1. Tammy,

      I too would love for them to be locked up already, but I would rather LE do this correctly so they don't get charged for a lesser crime and then can't be tried for a more serious crime later. JMO

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    2. I agree John P I just wish it was sooner than later. The wait is really unwelcoming, and it seems longer and longer which it is everyday that passes. I know where I am in NY our DA is no one to wait he'd have charged them and continued to add charges as more was revealed. I just want to see JUSTICE I guess I am becoming impatient is all, I could only imagine what the family goes through. If I am already struggling with no communication from the other side, and no arrest I can't fathem their sorrow, ain, and anger.

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    3. I wish I could say the same Tammy. Where I am at in VA, a city cop shot and killed a 54 year old woman. She was a retired hair dresser and currently deeply involved in her church. The officer stated she trapped his arm in the window of his car and tried to drive him down. She had crank up windows. This was early febuary and as of today they still have not even announced the officers name or if charges will be filed or even the results of the autopsy. Major cover-up. I am getting used to waiting is what I am saying. Don't like it, but I want JD to go away for life.

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    4. AGREED John P :) I'll be waiting right here with you.

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  16. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. This comment by LIES/Obscure:

    "Don't play games with people who can play them better than you."

    Made me laugh my f'n ass off. So, she admits she is playing games!

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    1. Why would it be illegal for Tori or Jeff to out lies but not for her to out Tori?

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  17. Justice could you explain a little more about identifying the blogger through Google without filing suit? How is that done exactly?

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    1. No just an intrested observer. Might come in handy if lies harrasses me.

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    2. Anon 6:28, you can find blog owners with real domains through their domain registration (use WHOIS) but when someone uses blogger or wordpress or something like that and chooses not to identify themselves, you can't force release of the name from the host without meeting the criteria for a court order (or in the case of police having grounds for a subpoena) which is not all that easy to do. Even when someone is harassing you, it's not easy; the law favors protecting internet anonymity.

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  18. An article called, "So you think you can hide anonymous blogger." on how to identify then through Google

    http://m.wired.com/epicenter/2011/11/goog-analytics-anony-bloggers/all/1

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  19. Funny how Justin forgot to tell Hedi who had Ayla,until LE figured out he was lying.--- Heidi Tudela I absolutely agree I hope no one ever has to live through what Trista has had to live through and has to be judged at the same time instead of embraced. My point exactly.
    January 13 at 12:08pm · Like · 1

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  20. Happy Easter everyone.
    From a friend in Canada.

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  21. Justin put Aylas needs before your own and Bring her Home.It is the last thing you can do for your daughter.Just She deserves to have you speak for her. The time will never be right.DO it Now.

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    1. Justin,
      If you believe in God, the time can never be more right that on this Christian Holiday. Bring peace to All on this Easter Sunday. Bring Ayla Home!

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  22. someone who knows, just call in an anonymous tip. Lance? C'mon homie just end it. You aren't going down for it. Any evidence they get off Ayla will point to the 3 who were home in the house that night. Get this off your head man. How many nights do you think you can drink the "guilt of knowing" away bro? I ain;t gonna be easy, but it is Easter man, best time ever to get right with God. With all that is going on in the world this ain;t a tie to be fuckin with the Big Man. Just call it in from a payphone. It will be hard for anyone to push this on you, you didn't hurt her.

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  23. All hell breaks loose at the mention of Lance's name.
    Lance is the one they worry about at the house upon the hill.

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  24. Lance is the one who is a man though. He's the one who can provide the evidence to let Ayla rest in peace, give peace to her maternal family, and finally show his siblings what it means to take responsibility even when it has some unpleasant effects. It's not easy. But it's what's right.

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    1. Exactly. Very well said. I too feel he is being duped and/or blackmailed by Justin. I think he told Tim Crews to stop looking because he knew Ayla was gone and that he could not have prevented it. I follow the theory that Justin's bruised appearance and line acros his nose(puffy on either side) was as a direct result of Lance finding out what happened to Ayla. Justin calmed him down and somehow convinced him it was an accident, maybe it was, but an accident following a PATTERN of documented highly suspicious injuries. Justin told something like "look bro, they will never believe me, I swear it was an accident" he may have even cried a little bit of alligator tears, shit, he may have even felt a little badly. What he DID NOT do is everything he could to protect his daughter Ayla.

      Lance is caught in a pickle now. I bet hethinks Ayla is gone, I cannot bring her back by telling what happened, so why have my whole family go to jail for allowing it to happen and covering it up, and now I am involved too..

      I don't envy his position at all but I do believe the peace he seeks can only be found in co-operating with authorities to bring Ayla home. He knows LE has Justin dead to rights with the evidence and all they need is Ayla, but they ARE having a hard time finding her. He leads them to her, he may just walk on probation for cooperating, He can get a lawyer and see what he can work. Or he can call in an anon tip and all of the evidence will point to Justin.

      Most improtantly though, he can give his sweet niece Ayla some dignity. What a horrible thing to be thrown away like garbage? A child so full of life and happiness, just out there, with nobody to say goodbye to her. Bring Ayla Home Lance, you will feel that HUGE heavy darkness lift, I assure you. They did this, let them pay for their crimes. If it goes to trial and they get Justin, you are next and he will try and get his reduced by letting on all who helped him.

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    2. Even if they said there was a kidnapping ,they should still look for her.Kids are kidnapped then left by the abductor.Thats how we know she wasnt kidnapped they didnt even try to find her.

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  25. I think Lance wants to do it for Ayla. I think Justin tried to prove he was behind Lance by not saying anything about him beating down Linnel but there is a HUGE difference in turning your back on someone beating up a skinny little punk like Linnel and turning your back on a cute little baby, who Lance actually liked.

    I think Justin is a piece of shit for putting this on Lance. He is smack in the middle. I have battled a drinking problem and some demons myself. I would tell Lance it will eat you alivebro.. You will never be able to have a real happy, chill day again. Justin and his rotten, evil girlfriend are robbing you of your piece of mind. They wouldn't do it for you, no freaking way!

    Do the right thing by Ayla Lance and I guarantee you one thing, you WILL have a chill day again. You will be able to enjoy your life. They lied to you and roped you in but LE is getting really close, you gotta make your move now. I hope you do not put your hands in a coin-flip court case for your life.

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  26. Can anyone tell me how I can get the picture to display beside my post? I am listed as a follower of this site but it still does not show the picture.

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    1. John, click on your name and it should take you to your Blogger dashboard. You can upload a photo from there.

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    2. The photo is already displayed on the followers list. I loaded it when I created the google account.

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    3. are you signed in here?

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    4. the same anonymous :)April 8, 2012 at 9:19 PM

      I don't think you are signed in or your name would be clickable.

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    5. Okay, I got signed in so now am checking to see if my grandkids are showing.

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    6. This is cool. Thank You for putting up with my ignorance.

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    7. GHS... Gibbs head slap to you.. turn around, it's no fun if you're watching..

      LOL

      you're welcome.

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    8. LMAO I am watching NCIS now an of course, DiNosso just got a GHS!

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    9. oh John.. we need lives. LOL I'm watching it too.

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    10. Well, I guess there will be no new news tonight. I guess I should try to get some sleep before work. Hope you had a good Easter. And thanks for helping me with my posts.

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  27. JSTL is an absolute joke. I hope you will try your best at ignoring her. She is the worst kind of coward.

    I opened my own Ayla blog today. It is still a work in progress but I hope you'll visit it. :)

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    1. Nice blog, and it's pretty too.

      you should mention that anyone who wants to see it should click on your name.

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    2. Thank you. I'm new to blogging but I hope I can contribute as much as J4A has.

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    3. Nice blog where is ayla.
      however, I could not comment as I have none of the accounts needed to comment. Can you set it up with "name/URL"?

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    4. I thought I had! I'll fix that immediately. Thank you for letting me know.

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  28. Do we know for sure Lance like Ayla?

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  29. From all that I have researched I have come up with JUST STOP THE LIES as Jon & Holly Briley: http://cyberbullyingreport.com/bully/jon-briley-and-holly-briley-are-dangerous-315.aspx

    IN THIS LINK NOTICE THE WORD OBSCURE AND HOW ABOUT LIES ETC...
    http://thedirty.com/2012/01/holly-briley-is-a-crazy-soccer-mom/
    Oh and let not forget this tidbit of information.
    http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2012/01/casey-anthony-leaker-holly-briley-caught-attempting-to-extort-high-profile-lawyer-kim-picazio/
    Oh and lets not for get the other pen names like Amelia Sobel, Breanne Chantel Patterson, Amy Brooks, Amy sobel, Amy Dewitt Brookds and Deborah Bradley.

    Im so glad to have gotten that off my chest!!!!!

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  30. For those of you not familiar with Amelia Noel Sobel/Amy Brooks...she is NOT connected to the Briley's. She is an evil, demented 22 year old troll from California that thrives on media-fueled cases. She will insert herslf into the middle of it, in order to get info & somehow make blood money off of it!
    She is attempting to make $$ right now off of the death of Caylee Anthony, with her "Pamphlet" called :#LiesLiesLies! The problem is, everything she wrote is either her opinion, or basic ino that's been all over FaceBook!

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  31. Holly Briley - The REAL ONEJune 8, 2012 at 1:52 AM

    Let me just say that I am the real Holly Briley. Contrary to popular belief I am NOT Amelia Noel Sobel - real name Amy Brooks. I too became a victim of Cyber stalking by Brianne Chantal Patterson from Burnaby Canada and find myself still being victimized. Ive started to chronicle this stalking in a blog. Also, I am NOT pro Casey Anthony. Many MANY rumors and outright lies have been said about myself and my husband, but soon .. very soon... the truth will come out. So yes, I can understand the want to post anonymously. For me its too late to do that.

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