Sunday, April 1, 2012

DHHS and the Ayla Reynolds Case

As more information is released in this case in the form of medical records and court records courtesy of Jeff Hanson and Trista Reynolds, the more questions I have for DHHS and the more confident I am that Trista Reynolds has a case to sue the pants off of them. DHHS failed Ayla in two ways. They allowed her father to take her by either not following up on a report of abuse or ignoring a report of abuse and they did nothing to enforce their own rules and guidelines by demanding that Justin return Ayla to Trista's care upon completion of rehab, that coupled with the report by a mandated reporter of possible child abuse and additional suspicious injuries, led to Ayla "disappearing" while on what should have been DHHS's watch.

(Dale M. pay attention! You need to read this so you will stop with your ravings about DHHS and how to file for Parental Rights and Responsibilities in Maine, you are wrong so read closely, maybe you will learn something.)



Let's start with some trivia on Mandated Reporters and Maine DHHS laws regarding Child Abuse/Neglect.

Myth or Fact:

DHHS Caseworkers may walk into a home and decide on the spot to take a child if they believe the child or children have been seriously abused or neglected?


Myth: As an agent, you can seek court action to remove or call law enforcement to provide interim care for up to 6 hours. 


The DHHS actively explores relative or kinship placement when children come into state custody?


Fact: Yes, even prior to coming into custody


All abuse cases must be reported to DHHS?


Myth: Physical discipline that causes only transient injury is allowable under state law


As a mandated reporter I am entitled to know what happened to my report?


Myth: You are not entitled. Under optional disclosure DHHS can share info if it affects the safety/care of the child. At the time of the report the Dept. may be able to say whether intervention is likely or not




The purpose of the trivia was to show people that what we think we know about DHHS and their rules and regulations may not always be accurate. Many people are under the false assumption that DHHS can take a child from a home if they think the child is being seriously abused or neglected and that it does not have to go through a judge. I, personally, thought that any case of child abuse should be reported to DHHS. I did not know that an injury that was a result of discipline was exempt under law. You can find more of the above trivia here

Mandated Reporters (such as a Physician, Dentist, Guidance Counselor, Teacher...)
A mandated reporter is legally required to report suspected child abuse or neglect to Child Protective Services immediately or as soon as possible.

If a mandated reporter knowingly fails to report a situation where they have reasonable cause to suspect child abuse or neglect, they are committing a civil violation and may be prosecuted and fired.

Going on the assumption that the doctor who saw Ayla for her pulled leg muscle, who listed in their report that there was "still concern for non-accidental trauma given the timing of acute onset limp (had just returned from visit with her father)", followed through with their treatment plan which was as follows:


Plan 1: Refer to Maine Orthopaedics
Plan 2: Report to DHS maternal concern about safety at dad's. 

Then DHHS was made aware of the possibility that Ayla was being abused while in the care of her father, Justin DiPietro but they still allowed Ayla to go live with her father 19 days later and did not assist Trista on retrieving Ayla per the agreement of all parties at the Family Team Meeting on 10/20/11 even after having received a report that he was possibly abusing her. Nor did they find it suspicious that less than 3 weeks after that, Ayla has yet another injury while in her father's care and this time sustains a serious arm break. How could DHHS overlook this? What happens once a report is received by their office? Aren't they required to follow up on it?

When DHHS receives a report of abuse they have an initial assessment which may include-home visits, interviews with family members, and collateral contacts. DHHS then makes a decision based off of those initial interviews and assessments. The findings are broken into three categories: Abuse/Neglect Substantiated, Indicated, or Not. Substantiated is when they have definite proof that abuse/neglect has occurred or will occur unless there is intervention. Indicated means that they have not found definitive proof but it is likely that it has or could happen. An unsubstantiated case is closed although sometimes DHHS offers services to these families. If a case is Substantiated or Indicated, CPS becomes involved.

Here is a link to an illustration of how what happens when a case is reported and what happens after the initial report.

If there was an injury reported by a doctor to possibly have come from trauma that was not accidental, I would hope that CPS would not come back with a finding of unsubstantiated. I would expect that they would feel that it was at the least indicated and require a more in depth assessment of the situation.

If CPS did their job correctly, which I am not seeing any evidence that they even interviewed Justin nor did a home visit, a complete assessment would be done and then a family team meeting would be called and a family plan would be set up. CPS would then offer different services to the family and stay involved until there was no more risk to the child. If CPS claims they did follow up thoroughly, I would think they would still have had an open case on Justin at the time of the arm break and would have stepped in to remove Ayla from Justin's care and place her back with Trista but they did not. They didn't even lift a finger to help Trista get Ayla back after the family plan was put in place after the first family team meeting. The dates of the reported incidents are too close together for DHHS not to have been aware of the reports of possible child abuse or to have fully assessed the situation and deemed Justin's home safe for Ayla.

9/29/11-Trista brings Ayla to the doctor's for the pulled leg muscle. Doctor was required to notify DHS that day or no later than the next business day.


10/17/11-Justin takes Ayla with DHHS's help


10/20/11-Family Team Meeting with a Family Plan put in place that Justin would return Ayla to Trista's custody on 10/22/11
0/22/11 Justin fails to follow through with the Family Plan


11/12/11-Ayla is seen at the ER for the broken arm 


11/14/11-Ayla is seen by a specialist in Portland due to the severity of the break


11/21/11-The last follow up appointment Ayla is taken to before she disappears. She was to supposed to be seen again on the 16th of December but the appointment was cancelled. 


12/15/11-Trista filed for Parental Rights and Responsibilities


12/17/11-Ayla is reported missing


12/19/11-A judge signs Trista's petition and waives the filing fees, they also agree to pay the costs of serving the other party. 


(Dale if you are still with me, this part is for you!)


Trista was restricted access to Ayla after December 8th. She was not able to talk to her on the phone or see her in person. She tried to get DHHS to intervene on her behalf and enforce their family plan and from Trista's reports they did not assist her. She was left with no other option but to legally file for Parental Rights and Responsibilities through the court so that there was either mandated visitation or that Trista retain physical custody of Ayla.

Trista filed the paperwork on 12/15/11. On the second page, it shows that is was received and stamped on 12/15/11. On the bottom of the page where it was signed by a judge it is dated 12/19/11. Trista was found to be eligible to have the filing fee waived and also the court would pay to have the other party served. It shows on the paperwork that first you file, then the other party is served which is why there is a section on the original paperwork that states if the fees are waived the courts will pay for the paperwork to be served, if you served the other party first, there would be no need for this on the original paperwork. (In case you don't comprehend that Dale, here is it again laid out for you!)



How do I file for a parental rights and responsibilities order?

Step 1: File a petition with the court
If you and your child’s other parent are not married, you can file a petition for a parental rights and responsibilities order at your local District Court.   Here is the link for the Complaint For Determination of Paternity, Parental Rights & Responsibilities, & Child Support. If you want to file for divorce, you can also do this at your local District Court and parental rights and responsibilities will be part of your divorce case.*  Although the form will ask you for your address, if you are afraid of the other parent and don’t want him/her to know your address, you can ask to keep it confidential.  The court clerk can give you more information on how to keep your address confidential. To find the courthouse nearest you visit our ME Courthouse Locations page.

Step 2: Arrange for the other parent to be served with a copy of the petition
After you file with the court, the other parent needs to receive legal notice of the petition, which the court refers to as “service of process.”  You can get detailed instructions on how to properly serve the other parent from the court clerk.

Step 3: Appear in court
Once the other parent has been served with your petition, both of you will attend a Case Management Conference with a Family Magistrate (who is similar to a judge, but doesn’t have as much legal authority). The purpose of the conference is to make clear what each parent wants and note what issues the parents agree or disagree on. After the conference, you and the other parent will attend a mediation session.**  During mediation, a professional mediator will try to help you and the other parent work through your disagreements and reach a compromise that you can both be happy with.  If you are able to reach an agreement on a parental rights and responsibilities arrangement, you will attend a final conference so the Family Magistrate can review the proposed arrangement and make it into a court order, unless he/she feels it would not be in your child’s best interests. If you and the other parent cannot reach an agreement at mediation, you will attend a hearing in front of a judge.  During the hearing, you and the other parent will both have a chance to present your case to the judge, be represented by lawyers, and the judge will issue a parental rights and responsibilities order.

* See Pine Tree Legal Assistance’s website and Maine Courts Website
** M.R.S.A 19-A § 1653(11)

Had DHHS done their job, Trista would have never been forced to file and Ayla would have been in her physical custody on 10/22/11. Ayla would not be missing, she would be playing with her little brother and getting ready to celebrate her second birthday with her mother and her maternal family but DHHS did not do their jobs and here we are instead.
Based on the newly released medical records, especially the ER and pulled leg muscle reports, I am fairly confident that Ayla was abused at the hands of her father or someone close to her father. I think that the abuse went too far and led to Ayla's demise and Justin knew he could not call 911 so with the help of his family they covered it up and concocted a fake abduction story. It breaks my heart to think that Ayla suffered while in her father's care and his attitude and lack of emotion along with not doing everything in his power to address the supposed kidnappers or look for Ayla by working with Lost N Missing or the Laura Recovery Center shows his true character and the monster he really is. 

185 comments:

  1. When people compile lists of the known evidence against Justin they leave out the broken arm from the blood and LI policy not realizing Justin deliberately indicated his presence at the moment of the break.

    No person in a standard child carry position could cause that type of break. Even if she was stomach to stomach and they fell on a hard edge landing the break would be angular not strait across above the elbow.

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  2. I have never understood the assertions made by some that DHHS was NOT actively involved with Ayla Reynolds, and had no case on her, and no SAY in whether or NOT JDiP took her from the Reynolds'; therefore NO obligation to "check" the DiP home for suitability OR obligation to "check on Ayla" AFTER going to live with JDiP.

    IF THIS WAS THE CASE [that DHHS had "no say"] WHAT WERE THEY DOING SENDING LE TO JR's APARTMENT ON JDiPS BEHALF???

    If DHHS had "no SAY" in Justin's right to assert claim of custody over Ayla, in Trista's absence...they should have REMAINED uninvolved.
    As in: "Sorry. We can't help you Justin."
    End of story.

    Once they intervened AT ALL by involving LE on Justin's BEHALF---DHHS inserted themselves INTO the custodial situation---they WERE OBLIGATED to open a case on Ayla Reynolds and to follow-up!
    JMO/MOO

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    1. VYLady,

      Karen Small overstepped her boundaries on behalf of the DiPs or a friend of the DiPs. She couldn'y open a case because she didn't have standing in the first place. JMO

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    2. One of the things that Trista leaves out of her story these days is that SHE ASKED Justin to take care of Ayla while she was in rehab. This was Trista's decision that Justin and not her sister Jessica or mother Becca should be the one to take care of Ayla. Justin agreed to take care of Ayla as Trista requested. The two parents had the right to make this agreement, no matter what Jessica and Becca thought of the decision.

      Trista often does not get along with Jessica and Becca. Recall that there had just been a big brawl between the two sisters where the police had to be called to break it up. It may have been Becca who called the police. DHHS got involved because of that. So things were not good between Trista and her sister and mother.

      Justin attempted to have a smooth pick up of his baby from Jessica by calling DHHS to make sure all the bases were covered. DHHS notified Jessica. When Justin went to Jessica's apartment she refused to hand over Ayla. Justin went to the police. He later went back with the police to Jessica's apartment to get his daughter. Both Becca and Jessica were there for the hand over and apparently they made it as frightening and traumatic for Ayla as possible, resulting in the baby screaming and biting. The baby was terrified because Jessica and Becca made her that afraid.

      So I think it could be said that IT WAS JESSICA WHO ABDUCTED AYLA ON THAT DAY, not Justin. Justin and Trista had the right to make the decision on who would have Ayla while Trista was in rehab. Jessica had no right to Ayla whatsoever, and yet refused to hand Ayla over. Jessica then got herself a lawyer to represent her at the team meeting with DHHS on the custody. Jessica was the only one there with a lawyer, as if she somehow had some legal right to have a say in the custody arrangements, which she did not.

      Jessica strikes me as a very defiant type of person. She has a criminal record and is rumored to have had involvement with drugs. Her behavior was bad enough for DHHS to forcibly take away her own children and put them up for adoption. Jessica left her apartment for parts unknown after Ayla went missing. Some say she is now mostly out of state. Trista and Jessica had another big brawl after Ayla went missing resulting in Jessica injuring Trista and the two currently have a hostile relationship.

      Trista said in her published text messages that her family was not helping her with this situation of Ayla being missing. They are not supporting Trista in this crisis. I have often wondered if it was Jessica who took Ayla. She seems defiant enough and crazy enough and attached to Ayla enough to have done it. She is on my short list of suspects.

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    3. Well Brittany, where to start. You seem to have alot of first hand information at least you phrase your statements as if you do. But, even if Trista agreed, Justin failed to return Ayla on the 22nd, as agreed by both of them.

      I am also trying to figure out if you're trying to imply that Tristas family kidnapped Ayla and that Jessica now is hiding her outside the state? Do you think that MSP does not know where Jessica is? Do you choose to ignore that three LE agencies agree there was no kidnapping? Do you choose to forget the rest of the evidence?

      I am going to stop here and ask that you re-evaluate the facts before you try starting "fires" or just trying to cause the Reynolds and Hansons more heartache than they already feel. This has been tried before by TLLOM and JSTL members and it is getting very old. Have a nice day.

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  3. I am a new poster, but have been reading everything available since day one. This case is heartbreaking. I feel for mom and family. This case has got to be solved. . . one way or the other. DHHS has a purpose and sometimes I'm sure the shine, but in this case they have failed badly. My prayers and thoughts go out to Trista and her family. . . what else can I say. . . Trista you are carrying yourself in a way that I don't believe I could do if I were in your situation. . . stay strong. I am impressed with you! Love to Ayla! She needs to come home.

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  4. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    DHHS not doing their job correctly, makes me believe Karen Small was DEFINITELY helping the Dipietro's. It seems like the Dips have followers willing to risk their jobs (Karen and Heidi and the Tudella's_, their families, their children, their reputation and and their LIVES for Justin and co. Jail is forever Dips, for the rest of your lives.

    As for Dale, OH NO, we're going to be stuck with her loony tunes comments and alter aliases for days now. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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    1. I'm trying to follow along...Who is Karen and Heidi and he Tudella's?

      RaRa

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    2. Long story short;

      Karen Small was the DHHS representative
      Heidi Tudella has been providing room and board for the DiPietros
      Derek Tudella who sold the LIP to Justin
      Kylie Tudella who is the name being thrown around as Obscure on JSTL

      Alot more involved but I can't put it all here.

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  5. Amen J4A! Great post!

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  6. Heidi's business? Oh the one she had before she took in JD? I would be surprised if that business has one client left. Real parents protect their children from baby murderers.

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  7. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    That's what I'm saying anon. The Dip Supporters blew everything supporting Justin. INCLUDING their jobs.

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  8. I work in a profession that works hand in hand with DHHS and from the beginning there has been a bunch of misinformation about how that agency works and what they had the power to do.

    Seems to me that DHHS opened a case about Trista at some point around her fight with her sister, due to Tristas substance abuse. Not unusual. What is unusual is that they were involved in any way with Justin taking Ayla, which he could have legally done on his own without their help ( because Dad trumps aunt, by law) Whatever agreements that are made at Family Team Meetings are not bound by a court of law, such as, Ayla will be returned at a specific date to Trista. Every single thing that happens with DHHS that doesn't happen due to DHHS initiating court action, is voluntary by the parties involved.

    With no custody order in place Trista could have taken Ayla from Justin at any time after she returned from detox, so the theory that Trista took her is ridiculous. She'd have no need to hide her, just don't leave her with a babysitter or a relative so Justin could snatch her back.

    Thanks for delving not this stuff so people better understand what happened.

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    1. Thanks for delving *into.....

      What I hope people see is that DHHS did not have the authority to (and did not) "place" Ayla anywhere.

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    2. I agree, Trista had legal rights to go take Ayla if she wanted to.

      DHS was involved with Trista even though if it was just for fighting and drinking, it may not even been a valid complaint for DHS to look into if Ayla and Ray were not being neglected/abused. They seemed to be on Trista like white on rice and Justin should have been looked into as an option of placing Ayla there before she went to rehab. DHS getting involved in helping Justin take Ayla after DHS had already agreed Ayla and Ray could stay with Becca and Jessica is again an improper use of their position and to blatantly ignore a report of child abuse that came in only a few weeks prior to all of this and not investigate Justin only to have another "accident" happen, they need to be held accountable as to why they did not follow up on that report that was a valid complaint

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    3. @Birdlady:

      "What I hope people see is that DHHS did not have the authority to (and did not) "place" Ayla anywhere."

      YES!
      I absolutely DO see that DHHS DID NOT "have the authority" to place Ayla in Justin's care OR withhold her from him EITHER..without a court-ordered custody agreement or protection from abuse order, he was (legally) just as entitled to Ayla as Trista was..

      SO WHAT WAS DHHS DOING AT JESSICA REYNOLDS' APT. and/or CALLING LE ON JUSTIN'S BEHALF???

      Per THEIR OWN guidelines, as well as child custody laws, they HAD NO BUSINESS being involved in this "custody grab" one way or the other!
      SO WHY did DHHS help Justin out in ANY capacity??

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    4. Not unusual? It's not exactly the norm in society. DHHS has no reason to get involved with the vast majorities of families. I'd say it is highly unusual when they get involved with any given family. That they had to get involved in the first place isn't DHHS's fault, they were only there because they were called. And responded.

      From there we can look outward - we've got the families and DHHS to scrutinize. The same can be said of both - we don't fund them sufficiently, we don't oversee them sufficiently, we don't hold them accountable sufficiently.

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    5. DHHS f--ked up. No matter how anyone tries to redefine DHHS's reponsibilities, their main responsibility is the welfare of the the child in the equation. They failed sorely in this regard. If someone is claiming that DHHS's resposibilities are different than those the general public understands them to be, then I would like to see a source cited for this information.

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    6. What is sad as that a young mother, Trista was most likely NOT aware that she could just go and get Ayla. I'm sure that I also saw that Justin made that difficult, as well. Sometimes young people tend to believe that the system has all the rights and that they have none. It's sad that Trista was probably not aware she could go get Ayla.

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    7. Maybe she knew she could just go and get her but didn't have the transportation / means to do so. ??
      It seems from what I have read that Justin wasn't going to just hand her back because Trista asked him to honor the agreement.
      She would only know that Ayla was in Waterville at Phoebe's and think they would have let her in the
      door ? She would have taken a lickin' from them.
      Looks as if she tried the legal way, but the timing wasn't in her favor. What a coinky dink.
      WHY DID HE WANT AYLA IN THE FIRST PLACE ?

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    8. Are there any DHHS documents that outline looking into the reports made by the doctor that Justin may be abusive? Are there any DHHS reports about Ayla's injuries period? As an RN, when I first read the medical record pertaining to her leg injury my first thought was sexual abuse. It says the doctor did a GU/anal exam, but those are sometimes quick and cannot rule out sexual abuse.

      RaRa

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  9. VTLady, I've always agreed with this. It seems as though dhhs was willing to be involved for Justin to take Ayla, then that was it. End of story for them. No further involvement?!

    It's been disputed about dhhs involvement (were they involved or not?). It's obvious they were. But their reasoning is not clear. It was not due to safety reasons, as Ray Jr was not removed. They could not have involved themselves just so Justin could gain "custody" of Ayla. That is not how custody is decided. Dhhs, nor LE makes judgement on custody. That is a court matter. Yes, apparently Justin had a right, due to no court order, but it just does not make full sense! It is obvious he was coached. He took this opportunity to TAKE Ayla, when Trista was not able to contest properly. AND, what would this even have to do with dhhs or LE?

    If anything Selena has said, can be taken as truth, or "in the know", she clearly, very recently, commented on dhhs and LE involvement in this "custody" grab. So, according to her, yes dhhs and LE made the decision. She has commented this info on JSTL.

    There is something very sneaky and strange with this, and should fully be investigated.

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    1. Oh Yeah, isn't Aunt Selena great, she is one happy camper, she can't post without LOLing or joking about something. She's having a good ole time over at Lies blog. Isn't it something that every time Selena opens her trap it makes the Dips look worse? Remember when she gave details about the soundproof basement? Thank you Selena! Everything she says makes the Dips and herself look like mean vindictive and weird people.
      I'm really beginning to think this Selena is a fake. I find it hard to believe that the Dips and their attorneys wouldn't have asked her to stop by now because she's not helping.
      What upsets me the most about Aunt Selena is that she's praising a blog that is an abomination to Ayla. If the Dips and their family love Ayla they would not be posting and posting and joking and praising that blog. I'm so sad for Ayla. Betrayed by so many!! I pray for little Ayla every day.

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    2. I want to add, I'm hoping that the person posting on Lies blog as Selena is a fake. That would make me feel much better for Ayla.
      Baffles me how one of Ayla's family could get in on Lies sickness of using missing babies for entertainment. Just So Sad
      !!

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    3. Which blog are you referring to? What does JSTL stand for?

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    4. The person posting as Selena is a FAKE! The Lies blogger is posting as Selena. JSTL stand for : JustStopTheLies. Lies post on here and other sites using mulit-screen names. Recently, lies trie to say that the blog master at jstl is Kylie Tudela, which is a lie, then changed it to someone whose name that starts with a C, but not Courtney is another lie.

      Question: Can anyone tell me if the lies blogger is committing criminal acts by posting trisha's private text messages, accusing her of abducting her child, etc. If so, please list the crimes and the proper agency the blogger should be reported to. Thanks

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    5. I would think that LE would be able to determine if it is hindering. I would think a lawyer would know better about defamation, harrassment, stalking or a possible civil case. Without know the validity of the texts or how damaging they are to the investigation it is still hearsay. What I do find ironic, is I know for sure "throwing" Ayla is a crime. If the witness were to come forward and it did not occur in conjunction with the other injuries or disappearance, this could be tried as a seperate case to show a pattern of abuse without jeopardizing the charges to follow. The jeopardy thing is my assupmtion, the throwing I kinow is a crime. She actually added to the case against her sweetie pie without doing anything to Trista. Hey Lies, DON'T THAT BITE YOU IN THE ARSE????????

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    6. My take on the text messages is that IF LE has these text messages already, straight from the cell phone providers, the fact that JSTL posted them could be tampering with evidence. Did they alter them? Were they pasted VERBATIM? Who knows; but, the beauty is that it could very well be that they tampered with evidence, which hinders a potential criminal investigation. That's my hope, at least...just keep on fueling the fire, JSTL--at least in that regard, you're doing an A+ job! You, too, Aunt Selena.

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  10. When my daughter was 15, her step-dad spanked her. In the process, she ran into her bed frame. She reported this incident to the nurse at school who immediately called child services. They were on the phone with me the next day! They evaluated her and determined that any injury was self-inflicted. My point is that this was a 15 year old who could speak up for herself. Trista tried to speak for Ayla and no one listened. SOMETHING'S WRONG IN MAINE.

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    1. Spanking a 15 year old? WOW

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    2. Exactly. You've got to figure there were some weird dynamics at play.

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    3. Yes, very weird! Isn't it a known thing that teenagers are too old for spankings? And to have the step-dad do it? Creepy!!

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    4. u didn't know my 15 yr old. She is now37 and is doing great.

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    5. Also, once again, you miss the point. There as noone to speak for Ayla except
      Trista and she was ignored.

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  11. I think DHHS's silence on this case says more than simply "it's all confidential". I hope there are internal investigations going on that are looking to do more than cover up incompetency and straying from the rules, and the results of that investigation will eventually be made public, at least in the sense of operational issues if not personal to this case. That being said, the involvement of DHHS at all speaks volumes. Think about yourself and your friends - how many have had contact with that agency over child welfare issues? Nobody in my circle. That child deserved better than what either/both of her parents were offering.

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  12. I've been saying all this time DHHS didn't help Ayla at all they should be held responsible and the ones who put Ayla in danger should get fired and held in jail for this,, DHHS didn't protect Ayla at all what so ever,, They Put Ayla in danger

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    1. I agree that the DHHS Rep, Karen, should be fired but I don't know if it is a criminal offense? If anyone knows I would be interested in knowing. There is no doubt though that she should be a defendant with DHHS for any civil suit the family would or may file.

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    2. It was a premeditated prearranged logistically successful kidnapping with the kidnapper posing as a public official acting on the legal authority of the office she represented. Every word above after posing is the exact opposite of what happened.

      She had no authority.

      Kit "VTLady, I've always agreed with this. It seems as though dhhs was willing to be involved for Justin to take Ayla, then that was it. End of story for them. No further involvement?!"

      That is the rub and nexus of the plan; these two phrases.

      "Lose the booze or lose THE KIDS"
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      "The father TRUMPS the aunt ANYTIME"

      Karen Small separated the mother and daughter and then used that separation to introduce the predator illegal assertion of unheld rights. She created a situation and exploited the situation she created. She is chargeable, hence words like "magnitude" being inserted into the investigation. FBI specializes in corruption of public offices and the public trusts invested in duly elected and appointed officials.

      She was an appointed official who executed a kidnap-murder.

      End of story


      Click thru my blog name for a killer tune representing my thoughts on this battle between The Great Warrior Ayla and those who would harm friend of many lives Trista.

      I am a man, I don't even try to understand women I try to love the respectfully from a polite distance. Karen Small I struggle to forgive but shall someday after she does some time.

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  13. Dale is crazier than a shithouse rat. Just look at her picture. It looks like both of her eyes are angry at the other. The only thing that can help her is a frontal lobotomy. Maybe it would straighten her eyes out but it would certainly make her inane ramblings more coherent. She is who the Dips/Roberts/Tudelas attract. Derelicts. The dregs of society are the only ones(besides the guilty themselves) who support obviously guilty murderers and conspirators.

    Imagine the turnout for Justin's Bail Fundraiser. Scary.

    I am sure Heidi is bristling at the thought of having to be chummy with these low rent psychos. Unfortunately for her, since she immersed herself deep into this case and decided to become a humanitarian, she is now yoked with someone who had his daughter for 2 months and managed to have her beaten, bruised, broken, bloody, and now missing.


    High time Miss H realizes she is now one of them. You knew what he was right? Now you get to dance with him.

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    1. I feel a little sorry for Dale, yes, she's a lunatic, but I think she needs something to belong to, to be a part of.. and that's why she latched onto TTLOM. She enjoys being one of the 'girl's" as AH calls them. She likes the attention from AH, HT and cronies, and the acknowledgement she gets from them.

      Lord knows she doesn't shut up over there. I think if they weren't so desperate for members on their side, they'd have kicked her out a while ago.

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    2. The first paragraph of Anonymou's post was one of the funniest things I've read in quite some time. And, unfortunately, a very apt description.

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    3. DipShit is going Down!April 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM

      I think I just pissed my pants. Thank you for your wise words.

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    4. Oh I've read Dale's 'history' on her facebook page. After reading her posts at TLLOM I was curious as to "who" this person is. Sad is all I can say. She definitely needed to be wanted and she found that at TLLOM.

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    5. Damn that made me LMFAO ANON!!!

      Where do I see this beauty queen we speak of? I need to ask for some tips on smizing.

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    6. Ive been wanting someone to shut Dale up for months,how stupid can one be? If you just did it JFA you are officially my newest hero! But she is pretty thick from my experience with her alone.

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  14. I have never understood why Ayla was placed with Justin. Also, I would think that with the disappearance of Ayla, the injuries they know of, and the discovery of her blood that the other two children would be deemed in harms way and removed from the home until they find out what happened to Ayla.

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    1. Agreed, agreed, agreed, but some people here seem to be letting DHHS off the hook in its responsibilities.

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    2. Seriously smdh?? Justin asserted his PARENTAL RIGHTS.

      Obviously DHHS does not agree with your "facts" that would lead to the removal of children from CR or ED. Nice try though.

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    3. dips&robertsgoindownApril 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM

      uhh courtney lived, with her son, in a major drug den. Courtney and Elisha are lying to Police about a missing baby. If DHHS thinks that's ok? scary

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    4. 2 x Anon,

      He exercised his rights to injure, beat, bruise and lose his daughter. And that don't include the blood. And as long as Karen is the DHHS Supervisor, why would DHHS disagree with her? And lastly, the LE is still processing evidence. If a childs blood other than Aylas is found, Karen Small or not, that child will be taken quicker than your comment got my ire up!!!

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    5. Dam! Some of these AnonAnons' need to proof read for common sense before they post. And I am being very nice right now to keep my BP down. Think about what you are saying before you type, then type, then proof read, hten ask the 6 year old down the street to proof read, ask for advice from the local ASPCA, listen to thier advice, retype, then post!!!

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    6. I agree.. and I do not get it. Gabby and Ayden needs someone to fight for them before they too come up missing. I hope that arrests are make soon, before one of these babies (I'm sure are abused also) get seriously hurt. I'm assuming that DHHS cannot do much until charges are filed, but does anyone know for sure? J4A, does any of your research say anything about what DHHS could be doing for these children?

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  15. Well, let me get this straight -- if a kid sustains an injury as the result of being knocked around, that's NOT investigation-worthy, but if a child sustains an injury by accident, that IS. Sounds pretty f--ked up to me.

    Also, while we're talking DHHS, I only became aware yesterday of Peter Hyatt's (Statement Analysis Blog) connection to the agency. Whether his work involves Ayla's case or not, it seems highly inappropriate for him to be publicly commenting on this case or interpreting the statements of the main parties involved. For DHHS to allow this suggests to me that Ayla's case only begins to expose what is wrong with this state entity. Not that we didn't already have a few cases to go on.

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    1. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 8:06 PM

      Awwwww, is Peter getting a little too close to home exposing the Dips? You should see his newest story, that will really scare the shit out of you.

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    2. I am also surprised that someone with ties to DHHS is allowed this freedom in commenting on a case. But, it also explains the lack of exposé on his website about the department and the caseworker specifically named by the Reynolds as not liking the family.

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      If he is unbiased, what difference should it make if it is forcing the state to fix the agency. If you want to claim a bias, simply look at Karen Small. She is the biased DHHS representative not Peter.

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    4. courtneyrobertssucksApril 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM

      It's a free country - unlike ttlom and jstl Peter Hyatt can say whatever he wants.

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    5. Peter doesn't work for DHHS and get paid by them each week. Therefore, no conflict of interest. If DHHS decides they don't like what Peter posts, they have the choice not to utilize him. However, the higher ups in DSS will not support Karen Small for taking matters into her own hands and DHS will want to get to the bottom of things with or without Peter.

      LOL, in your opinion, Peter's comments begin to expose what is wrong with DHS? Damn Dale, you are crazy as hell. Karen Small just smeared DHS with pulling favors for the Dips. I think Karen Small's behavior is highly innapropriate. Dale guess what? You and your aliases are the only one who think Peter is worse than Karen Small. You know why you don't like Peter? Cus he proves you wrong every time. Keep chatting... maybe he'll SA you and you can have a blog on J4A, Shannie and Boo and SA. WOW!!!! Your very dream come true!!! Attention lol!!!

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    6. I don't know if the implication was that anyone disagreeing with Peter Hyatt had to be Dale. I am all for exposing all the holes in the DHHS system, including Karen Small, assuming she is one of them. Even if Hyatt isn't paid directly by DHHS, I think it shows poor oversight on their part to let his comments go unchecked.But what really jumps out at me is that his function seems to be quality control & he doesn't seem to be doing a very good job of it.

      For about the zillionth time, peoople cannot say anything they want just because it is a "free" country. Freedom of speech has never been absolute. There are laws regarding libel & slander & you can't do things like yell, "fire" in a crowded theatre unless the the theatre is, in fact, on fire.

      Pete's comments have mostly been Statement Analysis & while fascinating, I'm not sur ehow much empirical data there is to support thsi as a science, so please do not cponfuse him wiht a god-like figure,. Also, I was gripped by nearly everything he intially wrote, but then I saw him starttrashing Trista & the State of Maine in general & that was enough for me. I figured he coudl go back to where he came from. No, Maine is not a perfect state, but I don't like his level of condescension.

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    7. A god like figure? I'm insulted. There is only ONE god and I love him! If you find it junk science, then why do you care what he writes about? Sorry he disappointed you. Welcome to the real world.

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  16. And who makes the distinction of server it is or is not an accident DALE you fruitcake? SO if someone says there son fell down a mineshaft and every bone in his body was broken it is an accident because Mom or Dad said so? So even if Dad deliberately pushed him in and knowingly lied...it is still an accident? Justin broke her arm...he threw her down. Stop belie img their Lies. HT and AH don't like you..lol! You are a loony tune to them just like you are to anyone with functional eyes and ears. They would trade you in for a rich politician or someone who wasn't batshit crazy in a cocaine heartbeat if they could. Problem is, only disturbed, lonely, people believe them. Beggars can't be choosers.

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  17. I don't know if anyone else has done this, but I sent an email to the governor's office asking them to force DHHS to investigate their lack of involvement in this. I don't expect a reply, but I will send an email everyday and hopefully I will get one. This whole thing breaks my heart.

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    1. Every citizen who is concerned about how DHHS does their work should write to the governor or their representatives. I think that we sometimes forget that our government agencies are there to protect us and that our government gets it's powers from the the consent of the governed. That is US folks. We are their BOSS. We have the right to know how they work, what guidelines they operate within and the right to complain when they do not follow those guidelines. Not only is it our right, it's out duty.

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    2. It is my beleif that Karen Small acted of her own accord in this instance. I submit that leaving Ray with JR is evidence this was done by Karen as a favor to the DiPs or a close friend of the DiPs.

      Does this eliminate DHHS from responsibility to fix this situation, HELL NO!!! They must correct the flaws or the entire organization will loose its' credibility.

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    3. Great idea on sending the emails.

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    4. Yes, really good idea! Thanks for that!

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  18. We have CFS where I live.
    They seem to drop the ball frequently.
    Then, the taxpapers and the public only get to see what
    went on when there is a coroner's inquest.
    And CFS only opens their records on a case when they are forced to due to a court proceeding.
    And they file motion after motion to not have those actual case records and names released.
    And it's always after the kiddo is deceased.
    And then they all move on to f' up more.
    Too many kids being abused to death, too many drugs involved, too much money and benefits given to the person who has custody. I don't know what the damn solution is here. There aren't enough good foster homes and CFS seems to think that being with a family member, even one where abuse is suspected is all ok.

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  19. I am hoping the person who maintains this blog means well, but I have seen some misuse of words that cannot be overlooked as they really impact the meaning of what is being put out. One is the use of the word, "recant". Another is referring to the background information on DHHS as trivia. "Trivia" is not synonymous with the term "background information". Trivia is like the information required to be good at a game like, "Jeopardy". This is not a game. Maybe you could have a friend proofread your blogs before you post them as I see these as serious errors.

    Also, a better understanding of the psychology of people who are pedophiles and sociopaths is needed. The behavior of a pedophile is not just a "blip" or snafu of the perpertrator's history. It is an absolute insult & injustice to suggest that the pedophile was just going through a rough time. Maybe s/he was, but that does not, for one minute, excuse a pedophile's behavior. And calling it something other than what it is will not miraculously improve the life the life of the person the pedophile has perpetrated his crimes upon.

    Those of you wishing Justin would suddenly, "Man up", or have his conscience take hold? He doesn't have one. If he was going to, that would have happened by the age of four. The concept of, "Manning Up," is pretty much a foreign language to him, for it implies taking responsibility & this monster doesn't experience the concept of responsibility. If he did, do you think he'd be living at his mother's at this age, with no apparent means of support? This is not a matter of personal opinion -- any more than what constitutes a pedophile is -- this is what defines them. Having no conscience, no sense of responsibility, no sense of right or wrong are what defines a sociopath. There is something missing from these people, whether they were born this way, or missed this stage of character development. No amount of guilt-tripping them or praying that they will somehow develop a ssnese of right & wrong is going to change that. They may mirror what appears to be a conscience because that's what they have had to do to operate in society. But it isn't there and never will be. Any concern for the outcome of Ayla's case is the concern that the perpetrator (person responsible for her having gone missing)will be caught & the consequences the perpetrator might suffer.

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    1. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 8:11 PM

      What are you talking about? No one on this blog is excusing a pedophile's behavior. Thank you for taking the time to be so corrective in your first paragraph. It changes my opinion of the blog authors now. NOT lol.

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    2. You beat me to it ANON 450. Sociopaths have a black abyss where their conscience should reside. It makes me angry when people beg him because I know he is chuckling when he reads it. JD feels 2 things. Apathy and Anger. I would include drug euphoria but that is artificially stimulated. He cares about himself. He doesn't care about his family, it was broken and not close anyhow. It is all about him. You see it when he he speaks of his first involvement in Ayla's life "She deserved me". No, she deserved much better.

      He has no problem dragging everyone into his mess because sociopaths do one thing very well, they preserve themselves. They do this through manipulation. People are means to ends for them. If they could provide him with drugs, he played the role of friend. If they could give him money, again, friend. Everyone in his life is a pawn. He moves and manipulates them and uses them to insulate himself from detection.

      Trista was a pawn, or so he thought. She liked someone else and this infuriated him. He was not in love with her because sociopaths do not feel love in a traditional sense. She was something he wanted to posess. She asked him to sign over Ayla's rights and this was a shot to his manhood, again, it wasn't because he wanted Ayla, it was because he didn't want some other guy having her and living with Ayla. It wasn't love, just a need to posess something he couldn't have.

      When he realized he could not dominate this situation he was infuriated. The first chance he got, led by his sociopath-enabling mother, he got revenge for rejection.

      Nobody except the people who abused Ayla know EXACTLY how everything went down but it is not a stretch to say Ayla was abused and neglected by a father and family who didn't want her but wanted someone else to be hurt. Sociopaths like inflicting pain because they cannot feel it. They like seeing it because it gives them what they crave, control. The ability to control other people gives them their brand of love.

      Justin is insulating himself with all of his pawns so he can somehow escape a sociopaths worst nightmare.. A place where the control is absolute and it is not theirs. He is going to jail. There is no way out. He may act like he has this beaten but inside he is panicking. He knows that even if all of his pawns stay strong, that blood is still going to be the thorn in his side. His pawns let him down with a sub-par cleanup. Were I one of them, I would be watching my back.

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    3. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 8:41 PM

      Great post. Maybe this is a stupid question, but if sociopaths lack feelings, can they still feel fear? As in fear of prison and being arrested?

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    4. Yes, I have a book on the study of sociopaths...however, most of them dont think they will get caught in the first place...they think they are smarter than everyone else!

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    5. The fear being exposed for who they are. They have told so many lies and manipulated so many situations for that to all come undone would be catastrophic. Which is why I believe he will turn on his helpers if for one second he feels there is a weak link. I bet he has patsies and contingencies lined up. He will not go alone and he will not go without a fight or flight.

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    6. sociopaths feel fear only when it involves their freedom, only if it will affect them personally...fear is still a primordial mechanism for self-preservation...even animals possess this basic instinct...he does not have toa have any feelings other than ones that reference himself...he can not comprehend going beyond himself...he is all about JD...

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    7. absolutely, but I feel it's unfair to animals to compare them to Justin ;)

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    8. Anonymous, we need a like button on here or a love one for that!

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    9. actually it is fair to compare him in that for some animals they care for their young as a matter of life purpose, and will die for them...other animals eat their young, and even mates and members of the same species without reservation or remorse...he is that type...cannibalistic sort of, seemingly without empathy, altruism, or the emergent intelligence that delineates us from the "lower" animals...Homo sapiens is still an animal... perhaps we can not even call him that :D

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  20. DHS is horrible at times. I have heard of many cases where they give the kids back when they find them to be being abused. I guess I was lucky, they did take their time before taken me out of the situation I was in...after many reports from the Doctors....I was 18 months when they finally put me in orphanage...after I lost my eyesight in one eye, two broken legs, and two broken arms...Then they had my father (not the person who did those things) prove to them he was fit to care for me before they gave him over...however, it took all of that (plus more) before they finally decided, hey these arent accidents...I guess the good thins is I dont waste my money on 3-D movies...no perception, no dimension...Geometry was a little hard in school! DHS do not always do their jobs. I do feel bad Trista was naive and didnt know she could go take her baby back because there was no actual court order at the time.

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    1. Jesus,RIMOM...I'm so sorry you were treated like that. How heartbreaking..
      I feel bad for Trista too, it's shitty that this system and the courts are supposed to be there to help children and the parents yet they are so fucked up. What was she supposed to do? You say go get help. Okay she did that. But now she has to be an asshole about getting her kid back? Taking Justin to court and fighting him over Ayla? WTF? She did what she was supposed to do, and there was no abuse and no injuries on that baby when she had Ayla. Only with that bastard, loser Dipshit and his pack of rejects he calls a family.

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    2. Thank you Shannie...I am glad I cant remember most of it...I am turning 29 this year and I cant believe that DHHS services are still so backwards this many years later. I was lucky they finally came to get me when they did, I may not be typing write now if they hadnt...its just annoying it took so long and it is even more annoying that it is still happening now. I dont understand why we are able to do so many things technically and improve our lives but our system fails so badly. It is horrible they allowed Justin who was abusing her to keep her...Trista should have had that baby girl. It is so sad. I hope Ayla is safe somewhere. Maybe Im just dreaming she is, but I pray it is true. Poor baby girl and it is heartbreaking to know Trista is going through this. I couldnt imagine being her for one moment. My children are my life. I would be out for blood if anything happened to them.

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    3. I'm glad you came out of all that walking tall, and being who you are. :)

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  21. So many misconceptions...so little time. I'll just hit on two. Since everything else has been explained to you all many times over. You just continue to refuse to believe anything other then what you WANT to be "the truth". What you WANT to be the "easy answer". Reality is often far more complicated then the mind is willing to believe.

    DHHS did not go with Justin to get Ayla from Jessica. The police did verify with DHHS that Justin had the AUTHORITY and the RIGHT to remove his daughter from her Aunt's care.

    Ok. So, Justin (per your information) "agreed" to return Ayla to Trista's care during a family meeting? There was NO court order or custody agreement. There was nothing FORCING him to return Ayla, especially if he thought that being back with Trista was unsafe. Would you have over your child to a junkie fresh out of rehab?? No...me either. I believe Trista called DHHS (she probably has them on speed dial) repeatedly and told them to go get Ayla. Problem is- Trista NEVER got custody and visitation etc set up through the courts. Justin has JUST AS MUCH right to Ayla as Trista does. Truth hurts, huh? I would bet DHHS started telling Trista in October when "Justin failed to return Ayla" that she would need to FILE papers with the COURT. So....WHY did she wait until 12/15 to file the papers? Smells pretty funky.

    Open your eyes people.

    This is not as straight forward as you wish it was.

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    1. How many times do we have to remind you? Ayla went missing on Justin's watch. Her daddy failed her. Not mom.

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    2. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 10:48 PM

      Sigh. Dale. Please don't invite her back any more. I left FB to get away from her, I blocked her and hundreds of others blocked her too. She found at home at This Little scam of mine. Let her stay there with the other nut jobs. She is simply draining with her endless and endless and endless, baseless commentary. Please j4, I BEG of you.

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    3. Why was dhhs or LE involved to begin with? Did Justin claim that Jessica was holding Ayla hostage? Was Ayla in danger? LE would not become involved, unless it was something more than a father wanting "custody" of his daughter. If there was no court order, what was LE basing their involvement on?

      Would you hand your child back to her mother, after rehab? Well, that's what he agreed to, isn't it? Trista was unsafe? AFTER REHAB? Really? Where was Super Dad Justin, Mr. Safe, before Trista going to rehab? She just became "unsafe" over night?

      So Justin had right to take and keep Ayla? Then why did Trista not have right to the same?

      Is there something special about Justin? That he doesn't have to go through court, but anyone else having a custody battle does?

      What was dhhs and LE's involvement for in this matter?

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    4. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

      mrsH you are speaking to Dale. She will go ALL DAY 24.7 arguing. She thrives upon it. The more you comment her, the more she will haunt you. She can not be reasoned with and many have tried. She has emotional issues as pointed out by many, many people. You are trying to talk with a severely damaged person. Beware.

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    5. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 10:54 PM

      Kit ________________ same deal. Dale will have you going for days, weeks and months. You are entertainment for her now. Keep chatting her and she will keep up the endless bs. She can not be rationally spoken to and she is not sane. I mean that legitimitely, she is mentally ill.

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    6. Thanks Bride. I see now that it's Dale and I can't believe I fell for it. {{smacks forehead}}

      I recognize that it's the same old argument she posts all over the place. She must have it copy and pasted for ease of posting.

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    7. Lol me too mrsH. In the middle of typing, I actually thought it was LIES. But, I fully believe in what I was saying so I posted it anyway.

      I guess it's not even worth responding to really...

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    8. I liked your response Kit

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    9. It does appear to be Dale. And I guess she's saying that Justin had just as much right to make a little girl disappear as anyone else did. Her well being doesn't seem to matter. It's Justin's "rights" that are important.

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    10. Mrs. H., "How many times do we have to remind you? Ayla went missing on Justin's watch. Her daddy failed her. Not mom." This does seem to be a point that requires CONSTANT repetition.

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    11. DHHS was involved with Ayla because Trista chose a life of living off the state.

      Jessica was forced to hand Ayla off to Justin because Justin is her PARENT and Trista AGREED that Ayla would stay with him. Go ask Jeff, or- better yet- ask Trista. She posts over on that A4A board.

      So....anytime a child is abducted or "goes missing" it is the parents fault? That is what you are saying. If it works for one, it works for all- right?

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    12. Maybe she waited because Justin said out of his own mouth,he always planned on giving Ayla back to Trista.Sounds like he was playing games.Was he going to give her back or was that a lie?

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    13. Justin,Now if he didnt want to hand his child over to a junkie why did he say this? "It has always been my intention to have a shared parenting agreement with Ayla’s mother and I will continue to work toward that when Ayla is returned to us."

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    14. Truth hurts Huh

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    15. the police verified it with who? DHSS that does not have the authority to grant custody? ONLY a judge can grant custody...so you are saying the cops verified that JD had a signed court document giving him full physical custody of Ayla? haha lets see it!! I think you are full of it,and are making up facts...prove it and post your source, and the cop who told you it was verified...check your own argument...there is a huge paradox there which is unresolvable...go back to school

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    16. did the cops take the DHHS worker and supervisor's word on his custody rights, or did they actually see a signed official court order? how did they verify this exactly? by fax? by phone? email? text? by mail? in person? for someone who has so much inside info, you sure got things mixed up...DHHS must have those docs on file to verify them, otherwise the worker lied that they existed to the cops...plain and simple...I say lets see the police logs for that day published, and the DHHS officer of the day log as well...@ DHHS-- whoever answered and confirmed his alleged custody rights ought to issue a statement concerning how DHHS determined his rights in the absence of a legal document/signed custody order...If I were anyone in maine dealing with DHHS right now, they are in charge of your life, and you children's once you are in their system...get together and use power in numbers...demand accountability, if not for Ayla, for your own children, and the many more children and their families that will be affected by such a corrupt and self-serving department...it has been months, and no public statement released by DHHS on this..I smell and internal investigation a brewing on the stove top... haha that is my post above, I hit anon on accident :D

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    17. You people are unbelievable.

      There was NO court order regarding custody. Trista only cared about setting up CHILD $UPPORT. SO, since the DNA test prooved that Justin IS Ayla's biological father, and the court was able to order CHILD $UPPORT- DHHS is AWARE of who Ayla's parents are.

      NO court order regarding custody= EQUAL PARENTAL RIGHTS. Welcome to Maine, where FATHERS have just as many rights as MOTHERS. Is that bad??

      Trista should have filed her court papers on OCTOBER 23rd. She knew she didn't have an ice cubes chance in hell of gaining primary residency let alone full parental rights. So...let's see. What options did that leave?

      I'll say it again: OPEN your eyes.

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  22. Justice, check your inbox and get back to me when you have a chance. Extremely important.

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  23. Bird Lady, Why would DHHS be involved in a family team meeting- with 2 representatives- and address the issue of where Ayla should be? If they didn't have a custody case on Ayla, they should have stayed out of such discussions, no? You can't be involved and not involved simultaneously and as powerful state officials, that sort of quasi involvement would tend to be misleading to most people. Most people would feel pressured, compelled, think they were under official order to do what DHHS said. Just look at the reaction here in terms of how much power people think DHHS has. As government officials paid by taxpayers they should avoid the appearance of impropriety including the appearance they have more power than they do or the appearance of abusing their authority. I say DHHS is in this deep and needs to be investigated with some people perhaps losing jobs or even being prosecuted depending on the facts that come out.

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    1. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 1, 2012 at 10:45 PM

      SUPER point Curious! Good job!

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    2. Very true. I agree also!

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    3. Very valid points.

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    4. Maybe she waited because he said out his own mouth that he was going to return Ayla to her Mom.Didnt he say that? Sounds like he wasnt telling her the truth.

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    5. Because that's not the way it works. Once a case is opened, which clearly happened if Trista was given an ultimatum about detox, a family team meeting is routinely scheduled that will be attended by those directly related to the case, both professional and family members. Agreements are often made at these meetings and sometimes people do not do what they agree to do. This is not the same as "placement" of custody with anyone.

      I'm not defending DHHS here, just explaining the process. They had no way to force Justin to return Ayla unless they could prove to a judge that she was in jeopardy.

      I agree Trista may not have known she could take Ayla back. If it were me in her shoes I would be very afraid of what DHHS reaction to that would be.

      I also agree that most people would feel pressured by DHHS in such a situation. But FYI everyone, unless DHHS has an ORDER FROM A COURT, all services are voluntary, all agreements not legally binding. Very few people understand their rights where DHHS is concerned.

      Is it true that DHHS did not go with Justin to Jessicas? Sounds like maybe the police called to clarify what to do and were told by DHHS that Justin had the legal right to take Ayla. Police increasingly make such clarifying calls, especially in South Portland, as they have had some mishaps where children have almost been released to parents that weren't supposed to have them.

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    6. The problem I have is that DHHS did not open a case on Justin after receiving a report of possible abuse from a doctor stating their was a possiblity her pulled leg muscle was a result of abuse.

      Forget about Trista having an open case for a second, why didn't they open a case on him and investigate him all on his own after the 29th of Sept which was before the meeting on the 20th of October. They did not assess his home life to make sure Ayla would be safe there after receiving a report also they received ANOTHER report shortly thereafter regarding the arm break and STILL did not investigate Ayla's living situation.

      You are right, Justin did have a legal right to take Ayla and Trista had a right to take her back and no one has to abide by the suggestions in a family team meeting however, DHS did not do their jobs by maintaining the welfare of the child and now Ayla is likely dead.

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    7. ITA BirdLady!

      But I also question LE's involvement in this case. Do they routinely get involved in such matters in ME? I understand Justin technically had a "right" to take Ayla, but it's a sticky situation, I don't understand them getting involved. If Trista was at work and Ayla was at daycare (or any number of other possibilities) would LE force release of Ayla to Justin?

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    8. Yes J4A I agree with you too! This dhhs involvement is confusing!

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    9. I hear you J4A! Once reports were made by Trista they should have been investigated, especially when a doctor makes a report too! That's where I feel they failed Ayla.

      No Kit, it's not usual for LE in Maine to get involved in custody disputes but South Portland stepped in it a few months ago and only very narrowly stopped a dangerously mentally Iill bio mom from taking her daughter, with whom she'd had no contact for months, from daycare. I bet they are checking all this stuff out with DHHS now to get guidance. In answer to your final question, they, or anyone else, would be unable to stop him from taking her from daycare but that's different than participating in it...

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    10. J4A,
      Very good points. I have to say that DHHS is knee deep in this because Karen was at the hand-off, supposedly she called LE on Justins behalf, so LE assumes an open case. But then only Ayla is taken, and Raymond is not, so Karen was not acting on Tristas case, she was acting on behalf of the DiPietros only. Way outta bounds, and in my opinion criminal!

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    11. Kit,

      Just a SWAG but I think the LPD officer may have known Karen Small and taken her word for whatever she may have said. Doesn't justify it but if a DHHS Supervisor calls LE, it is a pretty good bet LE will show up knowing that DHHS is already there and they will follow the lead of the DHHS. If all that makes any sense?

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  24. Lies is hihater at Websleuths. It can be proven with screen shots. The mods there know but don't care. She is currently very tied up in the Trayvon Martin thread. That's why she has been a little absent lately. I've been watching. The times line up perfectly. She also posted under TDAJ, which is one of Tamara Merrill's aliases. She has two bi-racial children and says she is from TX, but that only happened after the Ft Hood shooting. She's really from KS. Go to the Scam Girl blog and you will quickly find out who she is. Her buddy Marybeth posts as Selena Johnson. I've seen Selena's real posts. The voice and style is totally different. Our "Selena" uses "..." and the voice of Mayrbeth who is a heroine addict and internet scammer who has posted about how to shoplift and not get caught. Oh yeah, and loves the Sound of Music. They are truly sick. They insert themselves only to feel some importance in their sick pathetic lives. They are bold. did she actually get text from JD? Ask yourself this. . .doesn't LE have his phone? They either hacked it or made that shit up. Since their whole lives are made up I wouldn't be surprised. Neither would I be surprised if they hacked his phone ala Paris Hilton style. These sick fucks have no boundaries.

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    1. Why does it matter that she has biracial children?

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    2. No one said it matters, dick. Stop looking for racism that isn't there.

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    3. I don't think a black man would hit that. lol Plus, the Tamara you are speaking of have a fat-ass white daughter and lives in California. On the scamgirl blog it says that Tamara lives in California with her hubby, daughter and she owns/operation a facility for older adults. Where did you find info about two bi-racial children, because it is clearly not on that blog! Enlighten me, please. imo, the scamgirl blogger uses the same writing style as the lies blogger and when you click on how to contact, you get a big fat NOTHING! So... is the scamgirl blogger the true lies blogger and many bloggers on other sites (ie JusticeForLisaIrwin) and this is a clever way to hide his/her true identity?

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    4. http://scamgirl.blogspot.com/2011/04/tracey-herold-missing-child-case.html

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  25. Fan-friggin-tastic post!

    I love how you just keep knocking down the bullshit that the Dipshits and their fan club have piled ever so high...Kudos to you, Justice, great work :)

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  26. To THE BRIDE WEARS BLOOD -- I am all for exposing the DiPietros, DHHS,and anyone else that contributed to Ayla's disappearance. I do htink this blog tried to make excuses for Bob Vear's behavior in, "The
    White Van," post. Read it and then get back to me. Saying he had, "some past issues" is letting him of fthe hook & does a real disservice to the victims of pedophiles.

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    1. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 2, 2012 at 2:17 PM

      I re-read it. I'm not seeing "excuses" for his behavior. The only sentence that went lightly on him is something about having problems in the past. The rest of the article discusses her opinion that BV is not involved in Ayla's disappearance. You are very passive aggressive Anon. You hate Peter's site, you have it here. Where do you like to read? TLLOM? Bob Vear is a pedophile we all know it. So does every writer on this blog and I assure you NONE Of them are excusing him for being a dirtbag pedo.

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    2. TBWBR-Thank you! I have explained myself in the comment section of that post as well as another post by T4A that they commented the same thing on. I never excused Bob V. I just don't think he has anything to do with Ayla's disappearance.

      As far as me using the word "trivia" the questions about DHHS and the Myth or Fact questions are Trivia and taken from the Mandated Reporters training at maine.gov listed as Trivia.

      Anon-it is obvious you or someone close to you has been a victim of sexual abuse, I am sorry for that but you need to stop coming on here and accusing me of things, you do not know me and people aren't going to stop reading my blog because you see things differently than everyone else reading it. I don't need a proofreader. I am the proof reader and if this blog upsets you sooo much, why do you come here?

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  27. ms.peridot19

    MOO is that this was a kidnapping. Encouraging and/or supporting and/or assisting and/or authorizing LE to go to someone's home to remove a child without court order or a warrant is kidnapping. DHHS unofficially aided in the removal of a child from the physical custody of one parent to the physical custody of another parent. ***This would not have happened without DHHS intervention or assistance!*** All on the spot that evening with no real knowledge of all the facts.

    Maybe there had been previous contact and involvement with Justin in a "pro" Justin way? Either way, with or without previous interaction with Justin they had no right to assist in a removal of the baby from her mother's physical custody. "Father' right's trumps Aunt's rights any day" is not an excuse to force your way into a home to remove a child while the mother is temporarily absent. And it implies to me that there was some personal feeling's involved by whoever said that. That statement is a clear distortion of the facts - a plausible sounding excuse - to cover their real lack of authority. I believe they thought that statement would cover their respective *sses in the long run. I hope for Ayla, a judge finds them culpable! I hope for Trista and Ray Jr. a judge finds them culpable!

    There needs to be a law, if there is not already that DHHS has to take responsibility if they insert themselves officially or yes, even "unofficially". And I am sure there is. That 'unofficially' is bull. We have yet to hear of any steps DHHS took to make sure their helping to 'hand Ayla over' was safe for Ayla. I just keep wondering what all the judges would have to say about this? I guess DHHS or whoever was involved here does not need the legal system or the judges anymore?

    I would love to know exactly where and when and under what circumstances Trista was told, bullied or even talked into the fact that forcibly taking Ayla for Justin's rights is okay? If DHHS assist's, bullies, or talks a mother into in handing over a child for any reason, is that mother then told or explained to them that they are legally risking losing custody of their child permanently? Is it admitted that DHHS has no power to get the child back? This also cannot be legal! Again this is kidnapping!!! And what about doing all of this when Trista was not physically there (and at their advice/orders) so she was vulnerable to defend her rights?

    It is also relevant that Jessica was intimidated to open the door to her apartment! What is this a police state now???? It is not like a well check or anything like that was happening!

    And the fact that there was a question about Justin's care, if Ayla was even safe with him? They handed Ayla over to who exactly, someone who may have already been physically endangering her?

    Somehow everyone that was involved and went along with all of this needs to be held responsible. There is no way to fix this, and it is Ayla and the people who actually love her that forever have to live with all of this.

    And the argument that Trista could have just went and got Ayla is not true. I believe Trista was trying to work with Justin and work within the system too. It seems to me Justin could not have grabbed Ayla without the assistance of DHHS! Trista did not have that same DHHS support for the Police to intervene and take Ayla back to her custody.

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    1. ITA ms.p! There's not much to add to that, you pretty much said it all.

      I think at this point, dhhs and/or LE is going to attempt to fully cover their own behinds, in any way possible. It will be a huge battle for Trista to take these companies on. They will do anything and everything possible to cover themselves. It's probably even going to be difficult to find a lawyer willing to battle these companies in court. Lawyers don't like to burn their bridges...

      I know this might not be the appropriate time for Trista to move forward in that battle, as she has a lot of more important things to deal with right now that are probably consuming her every breath, day and night. So, I wonder what the time limit would be, on moving forward with such a case? Are there statute of limitations and when would the date stem from? From their involvement? Lack of involvement? Would Ayla's case have to be "solved" first? So many questions...

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    2. MsP Kit,

      ITA with everything you both said. I know in my state, once the lawyer serves the intent to reprsent or file suit,the statue of limitations stops counting up. The document being filed is sufficient. Is this not the case in Me?

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  28. Ok, so considering much of this was directed at me. I would like to point out step 2 is still serve the other parent. I didn't take into consideration that Trista was SOOOOOO poor she couldnt afford the $35.00 service fee. My Bad. More of our taxpayer dollars down the toilet!!!! Ok and for 2, If in fact she reported all these "injuries" to DHHS, which is highly doubltful considering she admit to "using" in her texts to Justin, the last thing she wanted would be DHHS in her lap. Another point is why do all her texts say "hunnie you are a good Dad and I know you would never hurt Ayla?" Next, Does anyone think a welfare mama in a hotel room down the street from a methadone clinic is going to regain primary residence? or Sole custody? or whatever the hell she was seeking? You all contend Just was trying to stop paying CS, of course he had the child, why wouldnt he? And if CS was an issue then why didnt he sign off all right when she asked him to. PAY ATTENTION TO THAT! K?

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    1. hey, I saw you once. You were lookin kinda dumb with your finger and your thumb in the shape of an L on your forehead.

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    2. You like making fun of unwed young women who don't have to cash to give to a broken system? Fuck you.
      Why do you think Trista was saying "hunnie you are a good Dad" and shit? She wanted communication to stay open with asshole and didn't want to believe he did something to that baby. It's called denile and you live in that world too..
      You ramblings suck, get help, whackadoo.

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    3. I don't even really WANT to get into this. There are so many things to say in reply, but I'm just going to say this: There are a LOT more (important) things YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO. Besides the process of filing/serving court papers. As far as child support, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE AYLA BACK!!

      Now please, go ask youself, or Angela, or Heidi, or sock puppet, or someone, where is Ayla? What happened to Ayla? Did she vanish? She was not kidnapped, unless you think the MSP AND FBI are incompetent. Maybe you should give them a call, they might need your expertise. Keep calling them. Over and over. Keep repeating your concerns over and over to THEM. You never know, they might never ever thoughy about your theory. Oh wait a minute... Kidnap was ruled OUT. Well, maybe they can explain to you why, since you refuse to listen to anyone elses words of reason, maybe you'll listen to MSP and FBI's words of reason.

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    4. What are you worried about taxpayer dollars for Dale? Sitting home all day long on your computer, probably collecting assistance, I doubt you pay any taxpaper $$$$.

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    5. Uggh Dale, I am sorry, I am sick of these morons who dont read all the articles and make up things, insult people when they know absolutely nothing about them, and think they know everything...I am actually talking about you!!! First off, Trista was on track of getting better by I dont know going to REHAB. If you do not know what REHAB is maybe you should google it. Can you figure out how to google? It is really easy, just type in REHAB and I am sure Dictionary.com will explain to you what that is. Trista may have made some bad decisions in her life, but that is the thing...dont tell me you never had a drink of alcohol before you were 21 out with your friends or I dont know decided to try pot at some point. Hey, for all I know you probably still smoke it, it seems from your thought process your braincells are all dried up. So, Im not sure if you know this, but people who arent happy with themselves/their lives/the people around them etc.., well they tend to drink more than they should, party more than they should, be less responsible at times...then one day, they say its enough, and its time to grow up...What makes you think this was not Trista? And if I am getting this right, do you actually think she could make her rent if she did have an apartment while she was in rehab? No, its called when your down...you have to get yourself back up...All your doing is insulting the people who are down and trying to get themselves back up. There are many people who overcome their addictions, who want more out of life, and this to me sounds like Trista...A SINGLE MOM OVERCOMING HER BAD DECISIONS MAKING HER LIFE BETTER FOR HER CHILDREN...Please tell me what experience you have with this? It sounds like none. So shut up. As long as Trista could provide Ayla with a home and show she can care for her DHHS would allow her to take custody. It is very difficult to remove a child from their mother.

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    6. Trista "reporting" abuse to DHHS is neither here nor there- as stated MANY times: the Drs would have sent THEIR diagnoses to DHHS immediately. I only see that these reports by MULTIPLE Drs were "swept under the rug" or " put on the back burner" @ DHHS. This case seems to be the most blatant example EVER of passing the buck by ANOTHER State Agency! Speak up- NO scream as loud as you can Trista, and family, and all who feel for this poor child!

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    7. Dale, what the hell are you thinking. You are more concerned with trying to demean a young mother that made a mistake but not once do you mention the blood found, the broken arm, the ball pit lies, or the fact that this "welfare" drain as you call her lost her baby girl while she was under his watch. What kind of f'ed up thought process is this. Take you self pity party and go kiss Justins ass some more because you are a sick ass individual. The only thing that matters is Ayla is missing, DHHS Representative Karen Small gave facilitated Ayla ending up in Justins care, and it is Justin that is hiding and then lying through his mommie wanna-bees! Dam you make me sick.

      I am so tired of these assholes defending Justin trying to dis Trista because she was trying to make a better life for HER CHILDREN. How in the world can these idiots honestly believe the stupidity they are spewing. Dale reminds me of two of the three monkey; he sees nothing, he hears nothing, but he just can't keep his mouth shut!!!

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  29. And your use of Pine Tree Legal Service to threaten to sue people,Who do you think pays for that Dale? Or your Meds? who pays for that? taxpayers mon ey down the Toilet.You dont even pay taxes why do you care its not your money.

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  30. Didnt Trista file the papers the day She went missing? Do you think they ran to his house and got him to sign that day? Why lie about any of the things your mention over and over LE can prove all of it ,so why would she get caught lying about it? you think LE would just over look all the lies? you really hate LE dont you?

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  31. Dale Yes thats my taxpayer Money supporting your ass to sit on the computer 12 hours a day.

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  32. Kit the FBI never said that they ruled out kidnapping. The FBI has said nothing at all. No one knows their views on this case.

    The State Police did not say they "ruled out" a family or acquaintance kidnapping. They just said that they did not buy that a stranger broke into the house and took Ayla.

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  33. Who is this Dale person?

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    1. A troll that tries to steal Aylas attention.repeats the same questions for Months.Even if you answer the questions she comes back and repeats them again.ignore trolls.

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    2. STICKS AND STONES
      MAY BREAK MY BONES
      BUT HEIDI'S
      one dumb CUNT

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    3. Roses are red,
      VIOLETS ARE BLUE
      DALE IS A SCHIZO
      AND LIES IS ....A herpes infested, morbidly obese, cum dumpster.

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  34. Yeah Kat, it WAS ruled out. Take it however you want. Ayla's case changed direction. It was changed in a way that they believe Ayla met foul play and the 3 in the home that night have not been fully truthful and have since stopped communicating. The specialistst involved with kidnappings left town. There has NEVER been any statement or plea from LE to a kidnapper. It's easy enough to search online for all of LE's statements.

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    1. Excellent post Kit! The fact that the FBI Kidnapping team left within hours is telling don't you think. Kat can interpret it differently but she would be wrong.

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  35. Justin,It has always been my intention to have a shared parenting agreement with Ayla’s mother and I will continue to work toward that when Ayla is returned to us.

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    1. Well Anon, I wonder if maybe she is trying "ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN" to get answers for her daughter?

      A witness saw Justin throw Ayla and you never mention that text? Shut up, grow up and learn to read everything.

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  36. Here is the deal, it doesn't matter who lies is, she has trista's texts and that ties her directly to Justin. If he goes down she goes down.

    On the other hand, if she made them up, this is clearly tampering with an investigation and she will go down for that.

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    1. Oh she really needs to go to jail for a while. She apparently has already gone down a few times from the sounds of it.

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  37. Grace4Ayla : Great ! I hope this pos goes down with him.

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  38. Lies is Courtney.

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    1. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 2, 2012 at 6:49 PM

      How could it be? After all Queen Courtney is too busy with work and school and any spare time with her son. The rest of her time is saving the world.

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  39. Oh it is Courtney. I figured it out a month ago and have proof. LE knows.

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    1. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM

      Oh okay then.

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    2. Lies is at it again. First it was kylie T, then connie, now courtney. Thats right lies. deny, deny, deny and try to put it on three different people in a very short period of time. I hope to hell no one is falling this shit.

      Would you trush a known liar?

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    3. Proud TLLOM MemberApril 3, 2012 at 8:08 AM

      @Anon Apr 3, 2012 12:23AM

      I do not, nor have I ever, run a blog. I have also never contributed to any blog as a "blogger". I just comment on blogs.

      Thanks,
      Connie

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  40. Maine DHHS has had problems for years and years. Does the name Logan Marr ring a bell? She was taken from her mother,and killed by the DHHS supervisor who adopted her. PBS's "Frontline" aired a two-part documentary about it called "The Taking of Logan Marr". Not only does the documentary explore the tragic case of Logan Marr, it sheds light on the "culture" of Maine DHHS caseworkers.

    This is a link to information about the film: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fostercare/marr/

    I definitely suspect that DHHS made "mistakes" in Ayla's case. I immediately thought of Logan Marr when I began hearing about the lack of follow-up after Justin took Ayla.

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  41. Correction: Logan was killed by her FOSTER mother (a former, but respected member of DHS). My apologies.

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    1. Logan's story is horrible. She complained during DHS supervised visits that she and her sister were being hurt by their foster mother. No one acted. They ignored this little girl and then LE found her dead in a basement, strapped to a high chair by 42 feet of duct tape.

      Logan could speak for herself and was ignored. It seems that even 11 years later when a strange limp is reported by Trista(and presumably escalated to DHHS by the doctor) - these complaints are still ignored. Yet another child slips through the cracks. Awful.

      Rest in peace, Logan. Prayers to the Reynolds family and Ayla. (more info on Logan: http://www.asmainegoes.com/COMSENS_1A.pdf )

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  42. She gave herself away with her final vicious attack on Trista where she captioned a picture of Sweet Ayla with "mommy please let me out of here, it's dark in her mommy"

    Only someone who truly hates Trista would do something so cruel. She laughed at Trista when she saw her in public. Who laughs at a mother when she knows she herself had a hand in abusing and killing her daughter? Only a truly evil person.

    Courtney is going to get everything she has coming to her.

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    1. Whoa, whoa, whoa!
      Where was this abomination posted... and WHEN?

      The depth of their evil seems to have no bottom.
      :(

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    2. The Bride Wears BLOOD RedApril 2, 2012 at 7:32 PM

      On Lies a while ago.

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    3. Courtney has always been the ringleader over there and I am sure LE was all over this seeing as she was one of the Waterville 3. She just couldn't resist taunting Trista and now she is going to pay, in a big way.

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    4. ...and PAYBACKS gonna prove to be the nastiest **tch you have ever dealt with miss roberts!

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  43. WOW! It makes sense! She seems to be the same type person JD is only she is even more controlling. I often thought CR was behind letting Trista speaking to AYLA less and less.

    Courtney always had a big mouth and spoke so grandiously about herself yet she all of a sudden went silent for months? She was never silent..


    COURTNEY IS AND WAS LIES AND LE HAS BEEN MONITORING HER SHIT FOR MONTHS.

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  44. I've often wondered if "Lies" was more than one person. (And no, I don't mean just the voices in her head - I mean actual, multiple humans). Her many about-faces in the beginning seemed almost too schitzo for even a true internet crazy.

    I'm also 100% certain that the person posting as Selena Johnson is not always the same person. And, I highly doubt it is Justin's real aunt (at least part of the time).

    The main point though, is that the Lies blog contains no helpful information in the search for Ayla. They post nothing of value to the actual case at hand. There really is no other reason to visit there, other than to fuck with the whackadoo who runs it. (An activity for which I do not have the time).

    Honestly, I think it's utterly pointless to even go there to defend Trista and her family against the undeserved abuse. It's likely just 3 people (pretending to about 15 people) who are all mentally unstable. No amount of logical arguments will make them un-crazy.

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    1. IntelligentPeopleDontPostatJSTLApril 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

      StacieDee, I agree. JSTL blog is a waste of one's time. There truly is no purpose to that blog. It only started because whoever opened it was jealous of J4A. And that jealousy seems to continue.

      It is interesting that you say that you think the blog is run by different people. Just yesterday I was wondering if SeekingTruth and Obscure were two very different individuals, since their posts are so different. Even SeekingTruths posts were not the same as the very first person running the blog.

      Since Obscure (or whoever it is) has taken over I have stopped reading. I also feel that it is, at most, a handful of people who enjoy yanking people's chains.

      At least here I can get quality information regarding what is happening in the case. Over there it's swearing and obsessive behavior. JSTL is a psychologists dream.

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  45. I had a feeling this was true, I bet LE has all of her initital disgusting pages that she deleted.

    Courtney gonna be a real hot ticket in girls jail!

    Hey Courtney Where's Ayla you PIG!!!!!!!!!

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  46. I believe they all post on there under differet pseudo's. It is their way to combat Peter, Tori, Shannie and the other Pro-Ayla blogs. They can be vicious and "vindictive" under the guise of anonymity.

    Courtney is a big-mouth. There is no way she coulkd have kept her gaping yap quiet throughout this. She is also very ghetto with her verbage and fits the LIES blogger to a tee. Though ALL the DIPS, HT, AND AH DEFINITELY post there as IP evidence will show. Courtney is the biggest mouth there and it was her idea.. Driven by her hate for and need to HURT Trista.

    She is going to be very surprised when her arrest warrant comes.

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    1. YOU are going to be very surprised when your arrest comes.

      btw: Lies, verbage is one of YOUR favorite words. lol

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    2. Oh, do tell, just what and how will I be arrested Miss Lies? And why post anonymously. I have never been arrested nor will I . I would however watch your tongue. For the last time, you redirection does not work on me when you post under an ANON then accuse the person ATTACKING or OUTING you with being YOU! You are a fucking silly rabbit aren't you. I WISH it were I who would get the honor of serving you with your arrest warrant.

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    3. HangInChild: What is ghetto and how could Courtney have a big mouth if she never talked or made any comments? Biggest mouth there? There where? Were YOU there to know all this? Do Tell!

      Anon: 6:08 - Are you like really asking someone why they post anonymously, when you posted anon telling someone not to? Seems YOU are the fucking silly rabbit now don't it? Please feel free to slap yourself for your stupidity.

      Put your thinking cap on, reverse psychology don't cut it for me. Try again, hag!

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  47. Just more lies, from Lies and trying to take the focus off her ass. No way in hell, Courtney is lies. Courtney can barely put two sentences together! If anyone fall for Lies bullshit, then sad for you. Compare the writing style of Courtney's and Lies. Totally difference. Lies has been at this type of shit for years and think that because her IP address is re-routing she is hidden. She needs to think again. Her ass is running scare, she knows that I know her old tricks and can expose her at the drop of a dime.

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  48. Lies tried to pin the identity of her blogger on Kylie T. When that didn't work, she tried Connie, and now she is desperate is trying to pin it on Courtney. She is the same person behind the recent post discussing old cases and the dhs worker and the murdered child. All in the name of keeping her own id a secret. POS this one is! And a very dangerous and skillful liar.

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    1. Meh...
      She is a prolific liar, but not a particularly *skillful one.
      :/

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    2. VTLady..agreed, prolific, yes....skillful,nah.

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  49. @anom 4:40 why don't you expose her so there is no more guess work between people? I don't actually care who she is...I assume Lies is a girl...putting a bad name to us ladies and seriously needs something better to do in her life...she should take up quilting, much better for the soul.

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    1. correction 4:44 (I cant type)

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    2. it would not be legal for a private citizen to post someone's ip on the internet but I would be shocked if LE did not have every cellphone and home computer IP that has been used by persons of interest in this case.

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  50. Why doesn't whoever knows who it is, post it with proof, to get it over with. There is so much talk of who LIES is, it is taking away from Ayla.

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  51. I was reading there yesterday.
    Justin is working with a TEAM.
    Billboards were mentioned.
    Anyone seen anything about this ?
    Has to be via TTLOM and I'm not approved to be there and din't ask either.

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    1. I believe the billboards already provided were done so through LostNMissing:

      http://www.pressherald.com/news/billboards-raise-awareness-in-northeast_2012-02-08.html

      If you read a couple posts back, J4A's post all about LostNMissing, it appears Justin has never worked with them and terminated his work with LRC.

      IDK if TLCOM is going to put up billboards for Ayla, but I'll believe that when I see it.

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    2. Agreed, Kit!

      My prediction... assuming these missing BB's ever materialize at ALL:

      The billboards (supposedly for Ayla's benefit) will feature the original art of Angela Harry, consisting of a giant photoshopped image of Ayla lacking any USEFUL identifying information, or a phone number for public tips.

      There WILL, however, be very SPECIFIC information advising the public as to where they can PURCHASE "Ayla Bell©" merchandise of their very own, thru Zazzle.com!

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    3. OOOh, NOW Justin finally decided to make billboards and do Bail Fundraiser runs?? Where was all of this concern the last 5 months? Looks like someone is trying to make a god impression for the grand jury. Too bad they too will consider the BODY of work, not the last ditch effort to keep from digging ditches.

      PIGS!

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  52. Dear Trista,
    I know its very hard to keep your strength right now
    When everything you love has been turned upside down.
    Hold your head up high and remember one day you will see
    Your beautiful little girl, happy again, full of life and so free
    It may seem like the world is a dark place and the pain will never go away
    There is hope for this to end and soon we hope, we all pray
    Ayla will come home and she will have a new start
    To be held by her Mommy, to never again be apart
    Trista, keep your head up…keep on fighting
    XXOO

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  53. I don't know about the billboards, it was a post over at
    there, but it came from a poster or two. Most of what is there is a load anyway. Or is it all of it ? I did go back and read quite a few of the orginal published articles from various media sources in the order they were published and at one time he was working, or at least speaking to Lost and Missing.
    ...
    Another thing was that Justin doesn't like to have his picture taken. He said he never has and anyway it should be about Ayla, not him. Duh ? I have a suspicious mind and his lack of presence is for a reason. The park near the house and the stream running thru it was mentioned more that once, but I believe LE had done some searches there.
    ..
    I wanted to read those articles in published order as after having read so much wasn't really sure what was fact and what was fiction anymore in my own mind.

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