Friday, March 16, 2012

Lying by Omission?

I have two kids and like most kids, they argue every so often. When they argue and can’t settle it between themselves, I sit them down and I ask them each what their story is to the argument. When they have stories that slightly resemble each other, it is easy to figure out the truth. When one story is totally different than the other, it shows that one of them is lying, usually the guiltier one or the one who stands to get into more trouble.

Between Ayla’s parents we get two different stories about when Justin learned he had a daughter.

We first learned Justin only found out that Ayla was his daughter when she was 7 months old by Angela Harry on her This Little Light of Maine blog. This has never come straight from Justin’s mouth nor have I heard him confirm it, pretty much par for the course.

Trista says she told Justin when she found out she was pregnant that the baby was his and he asked her to get an abortion. There is a little more to that story according to Trista’s best friend Amanda Benner.

BENNER: When Trista first got pregnant she was actually staying with me. She had gone to see Justin and told him she was having a baby, and that it was his. He denied it. They ended up having to get a DNA test through DHS, which proved he was the father of Ayla. And then he continued on having nothing to do with her.

He was at one point going to go and sign his rights over to her. He wanted absolutely nothing to do with this child. And it took until the point that Trista was like, fine, if you’re not going to be there for her, and you want nothing to do with my daughter who you created, this amazing little girl, then, you know what, fine, sign your rights over. And as soon as she said that.


BENNER: I don’t know. A couple months before she was going to go into rehab, he started all of a sudden wanting to have something to do with Ayla, for what reason I have no idea. He would take her, you know, once in a while for a couple hours during the day and would return her back to Trista. She didn’t even have her for any amount of time until all of that had happened.

On Trista’s MySpace 2 years ago she wrote to Amanda Benner that she was excited to be moving in with her. So that leaves no doubt in my mind that Amanda is telling the truth about Trista living with her since before Ayla was born.

We also have a more involved story from Trista’s side, whereas from Justin’s side the only thing said is he only found out HE is Ayla’s father when she was 7 months old.

Let’s start with the first fact they agree on, Trista and Justin had a one night stand. If birth control was used it obviously failed, if it wasn’t, then Justin very well knew the baby could have been his. The second fact is that a paternity test was done when Ayla was 7 months old that proved Justin is her father.

Now you have to figure out if Justin is lying by omission or if Trista and Amanda are just flat out lying. Or if Justin is telling a partial truth while Trista and Amanda are telling the truth.

Now me personally, I’m going with Trista and Amanda’s version of events. Why? I’ve seen this situation happen many times. Girl and boy have a one night stand, girl finds out she is pregnant, girl tells boy and boy goes running for the hills.

Justin was a 22-year-old kid when he found out Trista was pregnant from their one night stand. He had no relationship with her; no feelings for her. He was young, not ready for responsibilities. So he would do what most guys would do in his situation and ask her to get an abortion. When she said no, he denied the baby was his and pretended he knew nothing about it.

Let's look at another view of Justin’s claim of ONLY finding out when Ayla was 7 months old. The version that is already floating around is that Trista only filed with DHHS to determine paternity because her fiancé, Raymond Fortier, was arrested for arson and she needed to get TANF. Well what if she was already receiving TANF? If she is already receiving TANF, once Ayla was born she must tell DHHS who she thinks the father is. Then said potential dad gets served with papers to appear in court. If he contests that he is the dad, the judge orders him to take a paternity test. Mom and baby get a DNA swab, potential dad gets a DNA swab. Results come back a week later that say potential dad is, in fact, dad. Dad gets sent a new date to appear in court. They meet at court and child support is set up. This whole process can take quite a few months, like let’s say, 7.

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  1. I agree, Truth4Ayla..

    The reason DiP supporters claim "Justin didn't even KNOW he was a father until Ayla was 7 months old", is because that was when he could NO LONGER PRETEND that he "didn't know".
    The DNA results were a matter of court record.

    As usual, the DiP clan shows us that dishonesty is their way of life!

    It's ALL about what others can PROVE they have done and/or "know", and NEVER about the truth, or taking responsibility for their own actions..

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  2. I have a hard time believing he would trust her to get an abortion, since they did not know each other well. I think he knew all along, as Trista probably used county or state medical to pay for her prenatal care, the birth, and any appts for new little Ayla and herself. This would also require disclosure of the father, BUT in both cases, the mother can claim they do not know who the father is. Since she filed for support, she prob. did claim JD as the father, so this could be the source of a court ordered paternity test, rather than TANF. I posted a while back wondering if she used state/county medical for Ayla's arm appt as JD prob. did not pay for medical insurance for Ayla, just life insurance. EIther way, from what I understand, they do know peeps in the same circles; I have read several posts conveying this...JD would have either heard thru the grapevine abouther pregnancy, or would have checked up later on to ensure she got the abortion... He knew... just like he knows where the blood came from...

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    1. I can't say exactly where and when, but I know that I've seen comments posted from people who knew them saying that Trista and Justin knew each other and hung out together quite often. Even though they didn't have a serious relationship, I don't think Ayla came about from a one night stand.

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  3. You forgot the part where Trista lied and told Justin the baby was not his. It's in the timeline.

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    1. what time line?

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    2. the one that was posted at aylareynolds.com

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    3. Being pregnant is stressful enough without having someone trying to pressure you into an abortion. Once Justin thought the baby was gone, he left Trista alone. She was able to get through her pregnancy without someone trying to force her into an abortion.
      Seriously though, this has nothing to do with Ayla being missing, nor does it help to find out what happened to Beautiful Little Ayla. I just don't get why anyone would want to disrespect an innocent grieving mother, WOW, that's LOW!!

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    4. I wasn't trying to disrespect anyone. I was just pointing out that Trista had told Justin that the baby wasn't his.

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    5. Of course you were trying to disrespect Trista. If you would have said Trista told Justin, but instead the way you said "where Trista lied" was purposely bashing her. At least own up to what you're doing, okay?

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  4. your new blog post is is similar to JSTL's. how would yo u be accusing her of copying u?

    also, trista coulda told justin ayla was his, he had every right not to believe it. she was probably sleepin with other men at the time, she may have even lied to raymond fortier saying the baby was his.

    another bias post

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    1. Yes, YOURS is a biased post. Maybe Trista was sleeping with other men. So what? Justin may have been sleeping with other women. Why is promiscuity okay for one and not the other? Justin may have even impreganted other women, but since he is obviosuly the epitome of responsibility, he may have chosen the selective ignorance route. The fact is, he knew he had sex with Trista Reyonolds on a specific night & if no contraceptives were used, then he knew the chances were that Trista had become pregnant as a result of the hook-up. Unless he can't do math & doesn't even have a rudimentary understanding of the basics of biology -- which seems quite possible from what we've seen -- it was every bit his responsibility to check in with Trista about potential STD's & the potential for pregnancy. Do I think many men his age do that sort of thing? No, but it doesn't let them off the hook. They are equally responsible for the consequences of any sexual liaisons as are the young women involved.

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  5. That's the problem lately no one has anything for ideas where Ayla is. The people that know are not talking. The police have nothing to say. The com-mentors are fresh out of ideas. So it is attack mode on the mother, the writer for this blog, and anyone else who is avaiable.

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  6. I don't seem to remember her including that she lied to Justin her timeline when I first saw it, and I checked but the time line is gone I think. Got a screen shot? I do recall Trista saying that Justin was verbally abusive to her...if she lied to him about the baby being his, this is probably why...she either did not want an abortion or any flack/abuse from him if she chose to keep it, or she did not know at the time if it truly was his but was banking on it...I am assuming it is the not the latter, and that they did not have just a one night stand by their body language at the first vigil. I think Trista had a real thing for JD that she never perhaps expressed fully for fear of rejection, etc..., like unrequited puppy love, and wanted a family, support, comfortable home life raising kids while Justin works...lots of mom's do it JD wasn't down and said hell no, didn't want Trista (or Ayla by extension), though TR was good enough to have a sexual relationship with(probably while he was dating CR or near the time he started to).
    I think in the bigger context of things that her supposed lie would seem natural in a woman's self-protective position- to have control over her own body and offspring.
    His supposed lie denying his knowledge of the existence of any baby that TR had, especially being there was a huge chance it was his, does not seem like one of those types of natural protective measures. Men have a self-protective invested interest- potential financial consequences of having offspring not under their control... Denying the existence of a child does not exempt you from it's support, but he probably did not know this when he made the statement. I think he knew the whole time, and again lied to cover up his true intentions- a custody grab after NEVER being there for a kid he KNEW he had created.

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    1. copied from the timeline:

      From the start Justin did not want Trista to have Ayla. It has been stated that he never had the chance to be there when she was born, for good reason; Justin didn’t want Trista to bring Ayla to term if "it was going to be his". Trista told Justin that it was not his at that time because she did not want him to pressure her into an abortion. Justin was ordered by DHHS to pay back child support in December 2010 after having a paternity test, so it could be said that he did not “know” he was the father until then but it is false to say he wasn’t aware of Ayla’s existence until then.

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    2. Yep. He knew. He highly suspected the baby was his, but was forced to ignore it as there wasn't anything he could do other than to cause Trista to abort by threat/coercion or to miscarry by physical harm/disappear, or to demand a paternity test. He did not do this, but was instead ordered by the court to submit to one.
      Trista does not strike me as a good liar. She said she always wanted to be a mom, and I think she did. she wanted to be a mom at home with dad(JD) working to support the family. Raise the kid as a team. Both there for the new baby as a team, since they made her together. I think Trista had an unrequited thing, like puppy love, for Justin, but it was not returned. She was good enough to have a sexual relationship with, but not a baby. So she pulled the "other guy" card and lied as a diversion when no support, no willing hand was extended by Justin, and to get him off her back/escape abuse and pressure for termination of the pregnancy. This was a defensive maneuver for Trista. She has said he was verbally abusive, and we have seen the way his family handles problems.

      Just the mere act of telling JD of her pregnancy, and that it could be his,instead of hiding it, and then the baby until after she filed for child support, means she was asking for the support and help she needed from JD first, and which she thought he should give as the father. This is backed up by her friend Amanda's statements.

      If you plan on hiding a baby until you file for child support, then why the hell would you tell the person 7 months in advance that you are going to sue them for a monthly chunk of change, plus medical and dental for the next 18 years?
      This is relevant as Trista's paternity retraction would not make sense to JD unless he was in serious denial or on drugs. No guy(JD) is going to believe a girl when she says a baby is possibly someone else's(ray's) , right after being told to abort(=no support from me chick), right after telling said guy(JD) that the baby is his and she wants to keep it. It would be self-evident why she lied, and he would see this right away. Trista wears her heart on her sleeve.
      This would logically mean that he knew a baby was on the way, and would complicate his life with CDL school, courtney and partying. they know peeps in common, he would have been sweating it until after the baby was born, until the test results were in. He gets slapped with arrears, and a monthly "penalty" for the next 18 years, for a kid he will not have, and who will be it's mom's sock puppet against him(he will have to pay for a kid he will have no control over), taking his money and time....AAAAAAnd the gears start turning on how to shut it all off and make it go away...and presto...custody grab idea is formed, and the LIP the same day coincidence? I think not...Parsimony(Ockham's Razor) thinks not as well

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  7. With respect to what happened to Ayla, the question when Justin found out he was her father is irrelevant. Assuming AH's account that he acknowledges knowing by the time Ayla was 7 months old is correct, that would be Oct. 2010. But he saw her for the first time two months later, in December 2010, and only saw her a half dozen times in the following 10 months. That's far more important to understanding the dynamic leading up to the disappearance. He had next to no relationship with Ayla by his own choice from Oct. 2010 onward.

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  8. Emerald here's the backup copy I use: http://www.thefocusonfacts.com/2012/01/aylas-mother-releases-time-line/

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    1. thanks, but this is a paraphrase of the timeline- it has the date of the bone appt as 21 Nov, but it was 12 november, so I would not rely on that copy to be an exact transcript of her time line. Thanks again though :D

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  9. Great post T4A, shows Justin has a pattern of lying and is not to be believed.

    Thank you for all your great work! It is always interesting to discuss ALL aspects of the case because a key to understanding what may have happened can be hidden the most mundane of facts.

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  10. If Trista cut off contact with him because she did not want to murder her unborn baby, then GOOD FOR HER! If he didn't want anything to do with his beautiful baby, then he SHOULD have signed away his rights! I wonder, what exactly changed his mind? Revenge, hatred, money? What?
    I'm sorry to say this, it sounds horrible - Did he want to "get rid" of the baby he never wanted? :(

    WHATEVER it was, I'm sure LE is working on the answer, if they don't already know. LE WILL be coming for you Justin DiPietro!

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  11. Also, I DO NOT believe that he did not know Ayla was his baby until she was 7 months old! He thought he might get out of back child support, it would look like he was a "victim", it would look like he wasn't such a bad guy for not being involved since he "didn't know". I also believe he never told Courtney (possibly even his family) and tried to keep it a secret and stupidly hoped the truth would never come out. I bet he acted like it was a BIG surprise.

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  12. I'm sorry, but I really don't understand why or what this has to do with what happened to Ayla??

    If Justin did ask Trista to get an abortion, what is that suppose to mean? ...Probably that he didn't think it was wise to have the responsibility of a child at that time?
    Since it was some time before he started seeing his child, or supporting her....umm perhaps he was right, he wasn't ready for that responsibility.
    I can't fault him for asking Trista to have an abortion, if he did.
    Trista obviously didn't want an abortion, and had a beautiful baby girl. I'm sure they're BOTH happy that she didn't.

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    1. Maybe he shouldn't have been having sex if he wasn't aware of the possible results and responsibilities.

      It MAY have something to do with Ayla's "disappearance".

      Sorry, but I don't see that they were/are BOTH happy that Ayla was born...

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  13. I don't know how anyone can look into Ayla's sweet face and not melt with love. What a gift!!!! How can Justin live and survive each day? How can he go on and behave like he is innocent? Justin, if you are reading this, you know you why you can't fake non premeditation. LE isn't going to vanish, ever, they won't stop looking. Ever. LE has lots of leads and info and could very likely try a circumstantial case. It's only been 3 months, there is lots of time to find Ayla and I hope you understand that once her body is found, you have NO out. Do you understand? You go to prison until you die and it won't be fun, easy or pretty. It will be hell on earth. In a circumstantial case or a case when they find Ayla's body, you are cooked and burnt. It's over for you. If you have even ONE friend in LE, you should please consider talking about a deal. LE will not offer you immunity, but you are moments away from life in prison to death. You can change that and get out of prison before you die. Good behavior and extras and you still have a life at middle age. Hide and play out the game and you lose the gamble. You don't get to roll the dice again. You get what you gamble on and it aint' gonna be what you hope. Free Ayla and let her forgive and love you for being her great father. You don't have long to go before the jig is up, so why not let people forgive you for admitting the truth, serving Ayla her justice and the chance to get of prison and still have a life. Honey, don't fool yourself into believing you have options. YOu are in a corner and it is getting sealed all the time. When the ship is sinking, bail with a life jacket, but don't sit on the Titantic and drown when you can survive.

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    1. That is a well reasoned statement of facts and the progression of reality. If you willing to turn over the remains as part of a bargain they could be expected to offer 25 years with 16 2/3 served you would be out in 2028. You would be forty with sixty years ahead of you.

      You would be forty and could start over. If you push it you get life and everyone else gets stiff accessory sentences. That means no one to send money to your commissary account. No snacks no CD's.

      Look up the best criminal lawyer in Maine and ask for one hour of their time to get general legal advice on the various negotiation strategies.

      If you let Ayla's remains desiccate unfound they'll never deal.
      That is the only bargaining chip left the public desire for a funeral.
      Sixty days from now after the warm weather has turned the body into a putrid mass of swarming flies you'll not only get life but they shall hate you in prison. The same talk you read in blogs shall occur their.


      The difference is a bad dream you awake from and a endless nightmare.

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  14. The Tamara comments just make me want to take a break and come back to see if things calmed down. I'm done chatting the trolls. It seems people in all the blogs are tired of the scam. Someone provoking arguments. It's great to see that most everyone is seeing the same thing and blocking and ignoring the fire starters. Don't feed the animals.

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  15. I see a lot of "how is this relevant" comments from the army of anons...I think it's very relevant. This guy didn't even want this baby born, she was always a burden, even before birth. He never wanted her. And then when he's again "burdened" with taking care of her, she "disappears". It's a case of connecting the dots. If you can't see those dots, it's because you're willfully ignoring them. And seriously, Justin's a grown ass man who knows putting your dick in a chick can result in pregnancy. If he couldn't handle that kind of responsibility he should have stuck to jerkin' off instead of playing Russian roulette with his penis.

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    1. Thanks for giving it to us straight, BooKat. I am glad you can see the point of this post since many don't. :)

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    2. haha haha so true, and well put Bookat! I am laughing at the simple truth of it!

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  16. My story: I was 17. I knew my daughter's father since I was 14, we hung out, we were friends...we had a one night stand..I was on birth control, didnt think I would get pregnant. One month later found out I was. I told him, first thing out of his mouth, "the child isnt mine". I didnt talk much to him afterwards. Had my daughter, lost contact with him for two years. Was at dinner one night, saw him at the restaurant, showed him a picture of my daughter. He said, "she looks a lot like my nephew"...I said well, "she is yours"...his response, "prove it". I went to the state, had a test done, results obviously came back his...He received the results in the mail. I called him, "said ok, you ready to be in her life", his answer "no, just because the paper says she is mine, it could be wrong"...fine, went and had child support issued...she turns five, he decides he wants to be around her...she is now 10..he is still learning how to be a father, but he was aware that I was carrying his child since I found out I was pregnant! He denied it even after the results came back, he was what I consider a one night stand, even though we were friends for years...same thing could have happened here...He denied the child to be his even though he was told in the beginning and wouldnt believe it until the results came back...men and their stupid need for results, what is the world coming to!!!! Men like Dip and my daughter's father, like to do the deed but dont want to take care of the possible responsibility. My daughter asked him why he wasnt around for so long and he tried to say he didnt know about her...whatever, men need to man up these days!!

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