Tuesday, February 14, 2012

What Happened the Night Ayla Went Missing?

In all honesty, I wasn't in much of a hurry to update this blog because I only thought I was reading it. I was pleasantly surprised to see the new followers, (I have 3 now!) and the comments. I also want to thank http://www.websleuths.com/ for referring people to my blog, I have had 80 people per day click on my blog from that site alone.

The websites and comment sections are all abuzz today because of the Press Release Trista Reynolds posted on her website http://www.aylareynolds.com/. Law Enforcement Officials have declined to comment on her release and until they do, I am not going to count any of the information in it as fact. These same rumors have been all over the Internet for the past few weeks.

I want to go back to the night Ayla was reported missing. I don't know if she actually went missing that night, in my opinion, I think she probably was missing days before they made the 911 call. I know a lot of others share my opinion on that.

On Thursday the 15th, I did report that Justin was in Portland cleaning the rest of his belongings out of the apartment he shared. Ayla was not with him. It has been reported by Law Enforcement Officials that he was out of the house for 3 hours that day. I can only assume that Ayla was at home with one of the other 2 adults in the house that night.

It has been reported and confirmed that there were a total of 6 people in the house that night, Justin DiPietro, Elisha DiPietro, Courtney Roberts, Ayla Reynolds, Aiden Roberts, and Gabby DiPietro. The people in the house vehemently deny that there was a party there that night and I am inclined to believe them. How many people throw a raging party where the only attendees are a guy, his girlfriend, his younger sister and his daughter, niece and his girlfriend's young son? They claim that it was a normal, quiet night. They put the kids to bed, Elisha and her daughter in her room, Justin and Courtney with Aiden in Justin's basement bedroom and poor Ayla alone in her room approximately at 8pm. It is unknown whether or not she was checked on at all, I have heard that she wasn't checked on until the morning and they found her missing and I also have heard that she was checked on at 10pm before they went to bed. I have read so many comments from parents appalled that someone would put their child to bed and not check on them multiple times throughout the night and what toddler does not wake up in the middle of the night and need to be changed? I have a 2 1/2 month old little girl sleeping in the next room right now and I don't always check on her during the night unless maybe it is a little cold and I want to make sure she is covered up. She also NEVER wakes up in the middle of the night looking for a drink or needing to be changed. All children are not the same and all parents do things differently, because someone checks on their child multiple times throughout the night does not make them a better parent then a person who does not check on them during the night.

 A neighbor reported hearing a loud noise at some time during the night which got her dog barking and another neighbor stated seeing a car pull up sometime during the night. Police were given a description of the car but as of yet, we do not know if it produced any clues as to what really happened that night.

The people in the house state that they did not hear or see anything and when they woke up Ayla was gone. Police have announced that it was impossible for the window in the room Ayla was in to be opened from the outside. They do not know if the doors were locked or unlocked before they went to bed. I find it hard to believe that someone walked into that house in the middle of the night without making a noise and carried a baby away into the night without being seen by anyone and police also do not believe that is what happened. Is it possible? Yes, anything is possible. Plausible? No. If it was a stranger abduction, this person would have scoped out the house for a long time before he felt comfortable enough to take her. Ayla was not living with Justin long enough, in my opinion, for someone to not only set their sights on Ayla but also scope out the house, gather information on their routines, the layout of the house etc. It also was reported by more than one neighbor that they were not even aware that Ayla lived there so it is highly unlikely that some pedophile neighbor saw her and fixated on her. If it was a family member, Trista, in this case, she most likely would have taken her after she had already gotten 2 passports in assumed names and a bunch of cash so they could disappear and start a new life somewhere otherwise what would be the point? If she had not thought things through that far and took Ayla on impulse, she would have come clean by now, realizing that this charade could not go on forever. The only other scenario is that some random stranger walked in off the street and took her, if that happened I would think her body would have been found by now as the person most likely would have panicked with all the news coverage and would want to get rid of any evidence tying him to her immediately. Keep in mind, these are only my opinions and everyone is free to disagree with me and have their own opinions and I encourage you to share them with me.

Another thing that has garnered a lot of media attention is Phoebe DiPietro's claim that she was there that night and then her retraction that she was not in fact home that night. When I first heard about this I dismissed it as maybe she was nervous being on television and wasn't thinking before she spoke, then I thought she was lying and was trying to cover up for her son but then after analyzing it over and over, I think she was telling the truth on both accounts. I think the night Ayla died, she was there and it was a normal night. I think the night that it was reported as happening, she was not home. I think Phoebe was trying so hard to keep things straight in her head, that the truth inadvertently slipped through her lips and it wasn't until it was brought to her attention later that she corrected herself.

Something happened in that house either on the 16th of December or before and the people who live in that house know what happened. If it was an accident, why not call 911 even if the accident happened because someone was negligent? Wouldn't they rather go to jail for a negligence charge versus a murder charge? Was it because there were drugs in the house as some speculate? A possession/use of drug charge is usually not even a criminal offense, only a civil offense with a fine imposed, I would think that would be a more preferable charge than an accessory to murder charge. I truly believe or want to believe that whatever happened to Ayla was an accident, A baby gate not put up properly, She was not being supervised and ingested something she should not have and no one noticed until she did not wake up in the morning... I would prefer to believe that it was an accident that caused immediate death and no suffering and that was why 911 was not called, because it was too late and bad judgement led them to cover it up instead of taking responsibility because I do not want to contemplate the alternative. I would love to believe that she was abducted in the middle of the night by someone who could not have children and she is alive and well somewhere waiting to be found but I would be lying to myself and to anyone reading this if I said I believed that.

I have one question that keeps nagging away at me, have police checked out storage units from here to Portland? It has been confirmed that Justin was in Portland cleaning out the rest of his belongings from the apartment only hours before Ayla was reported missing. Did those items make it back to 29 Violette Ave or were they put into storage somewhere along the way and what else was put into storage with them? Did someone "leak" a tip to police to search the exact spot in the Kennebec that they trained their searches on so police would deem it clear and once it was that poor Ayla would be retrieved from the storage unit and dumped in the section of river that has already been searched more than once? I have no idea if Justin has ever rented a storage unit and I certainly do not know if police searched that part of the river because of a tip or because that was the most accessible place to dispose of a body. These are only questions I have.

Whatever happened, at least 3 people know the truth and since not one of them has come forward, it forces my mind to go places I do not want it to go. What could have happened that night that would make 3 people vow secrecy and not falter from it? Were all forced to have a hand in it so one could not blame another without implicating themselves? What happened to Ayla Reynolds? Will she ever get justice?

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  1. Considering your "six degrees" connection you blog was less biased than I expected. You bring up some interesting poinst. It is hard to think about and believe that something horrible happened; however I do think that is the case. It is still hard as I too have little ones and this breaks my heart for this baby. I had not heard that he had been in Portland just the day before without Ayla. that is bothersome and would lead me to think that she was gone already. And although drug charges can be civil with a fine: I think it depends on the drug(especially with the commentor about the methodone clinic) So somebody was going to the methodone clinic???? And there have been increasingly more crimes of harm done to children as a result of negligence on the part of parents due to drugs. Even if what happened was an accident because somebody was on drugs, this would be a felony and no longer a civil charge. That could be motivation to cover-up "an accident"

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  2. I have read all 3 of your post and comments. In one of the comments you said ........I tried to get more info from DHS and their policies but if any more comes to light, it wont be through anyone associated with DHS. They will not even let you say the name Ayla Reynolds in their building.

    Would you care to elaborate more on that. Did you call them, or talk to someone that worked there? With the info. that has been made available thus far, the public has every right to question the actions of DHHS.

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  3. I went to the DHS office in Augusta and asked about policies and procedures because I had read conflicting information online about DHS being able to remove a child from a home without a court order. I did not mention Ayla until I saw her missing poster in the lobby and had started a conversation with the person I had driven there. Before I could get a sentence out the secretary advised me not to discuss the case in their building. When I asked why we could not discuss a news story, one which they have a missing poster of in their lobby, the worker got extremely agitated asked me to leave. DHS is in my opinion very defensively when it comes to the topic of Ayla and I believe it is because they dropped the ball yet again and this time they cant cover it up internally.

    To Anon 11:42. Thank you, I try to be objective as much as possible and play devils advocate. I would like nothing more than to be wrong and have Ayla come home safe. I agree with your motivation to cover up an accident and I still think that is what happened. Rationally thinking, I would still prefer a felony charge over a felony murder charge but who knows how rational anyone's thinking was that night.

    Thank you to everyone who is now reading this blog. I am just floored by how many people have found this page and have been reading and commenting. I appreciate and welcome any comments and suggestions.

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    1. That is shocking that they asked you to leave when you said Ayla's name, however I am glad you are reporting it. The public needs to know this. May I ask another question? Did they ever respond to the question you had about their policy and procedure? I can understand their privacy to a certain point, especially details with a child's name involved. I can NOT understand why their dang policy and procedure would be private!

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    2. I was given a link to the website and the policies and a pamphlet about CPS. I included the link in the post. It states that CPS/DHS cannot remove a child from the home even with suspected abuse until it goes before a judge.

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    4. thats not true ... they have whats called a six hour hold. It's where they tell the parent they are taking the children on a 6 hr hold .... the parents hands them over then it's done. There's no such thing as a 6 hour hold. It's an out right lie. DHHS much like the police lie all the time. There's no law against lying. IT's a FACT. I've seen this done time and again. Taking advantage of parents not knowing their rights.

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  4. Here's a thought...

    Let's say Ayla went missing prior to the 16th. Then on the 16th, her father's friends/family arrived and had an evening of board games and highly educated discussions on the latest books they read and went to bed. When the father wakes up and calls 911 the next day, wouldn't the friends/family have wondered why? Wouldn't they have said, wait...she wasn't even here last night! The only reason, that I can think of, that they would have backed his obviously false story would be if they were there or involved at the time that she actually had gone missing, prior to the 16th.

    I can't see that happening. That would have taken some serious planning. 4 people being present, not including the 2 children, when Ayla goes missing. Then days/weeks later they all get together to stage an evening of innocent fun knowing that Ayla isn't there and then call 911 the next morning to report her missing. If they had planned this out, to this extent, wouldn't they have thought to stage a break in of some type? Break a window or something?

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    1. I too have thought about how it would be possible for Elisha and Courtney to have plausible deniability. But how could it have been accomplished. The only way I see them not being involved, and knowing nothing (as they claim), as a result, would be if Justin had Ayla out with him that night (probably already deceased), carried her into the home and pretended to put her in bed for the night.

      But we've heard nothing about him being gone. I think the one thing that bothers me most is that we've heard nothing from any of the four - Justin, Elisha, Courtney, or Phoebe, to indicate they even saw her that night. You'd think they say something at least, wouldn't you?

      What did those four adults see that child doing before bed? Seems like a simple question, simple answer, and it would save them all a lot of face in the community and media, but they haven't said a thing. It doesn't add up to me.

      So sad. But I guess that what is saddest of all is that it implicates all four of them in something quite horrific, because there would be absolutely no reason to protect someone at the expense of a murder charge had you nothing to do with it at all.

      I hope someone comes to their senses soon.

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    2. You keep saying murder..death..why she may still be alive and I'm wondering how you would feel if this was your child and you are an innocent parent with little hope but you have hope your baby is alive and you read a bloc and you read those words...you do not know what happened to this baby anymore than the next guy...why not try to stick to the facts and keep the hope and prayers going...

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    3. So who exactly is this mythical "innocent" parent. Justin...surely you jest?! He is about as innocent as Jerry the Diddler Sandusky. Speaking of Sandusky, Justin will be feeling like one of Jerry's pin cushions when Bubba and the boyz get their turns running the train on him in Cell Block A.

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    4. Why are you condemning him before the truth comes out..you may eat those words one day..

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    5. You are right, she MAY still be alive. I'm sure most children her age could suffer whatever injury caused her blood to be found so heavily in the basement then be mysteriously taken from their room in the middle of the night and still survive. I am a parent. I would be a mental wreck if anything happened to my child or if she went missing. But let's all meet in a little place known as reality for just a minute here...positive thinking doesn't bring a child back to life. It doesn't undo the evil that took place. Parents keep hope in their heart because they will crumble if they don't. But look at the evidence. She's a baby. There's blood in the basement that is hers and it was cleaned up. How can a parent or any relative, clean blood like that yet not remember how it got there? Can no one give an answer as to how this young child was injured in that basement? I can tell you every time my 13 year old has ever been to the doctor's for anything other than a well child check up. Avoiding the truth in this case isn't going to do anything except lengthen the amount of time it takes to find out what really happened to her. It's sad. Horribly sad. But she's gone and she wasn't kidnapped in the middle of the night. So her blood is in the basement, she's reported as being abducted while everyone was asleep. No one can (or will) explain the blood and the abduction theory is trash. So...if she is alive somewhere, then how did she disappear and why is it being covered up by so many people? As we all learned by watching the Casey Anthony trial, if you hide a body long enough you don't need to have a solid story as to what happened. Just make up whatever comes to mind and apparently you will be cleared.

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  5. Another possibility....(had to put it into 2 posts)

    All 6, including the children, are at the house the night of the 16th. They play board games and hold intelligent discussions on books, read to their children, get down on the floor and play games with them, color, you know...the fun things that us parents do with our children every day. Then around 8pm the kids go to bed, a reasonable time for responsible parents to put their children to sleep. The 4 adults go to bed after more innocent fun (no drugs of course, they are responsible parents after all) and awake in the morning to find Ayla gone. Where did she go? No one broke in. We all know that. To even suggest that someone broke in insults the intelligence of anyone listening to their story...which at this point is everyone. Only 1 person had to wake up in the night and take her somewhere. Only one. The other 3 could have woken up in the morning and not known where she went, leaving them only to believe that somehow she was abducted even though there is no physical evidence. Why is there no physical evidence? In my theory above, physical evidence could have been staged because all 4 adults would have been involved and would have had time to make it look like someone broke in before the police were called. In this theory the 1 person involved couldn't have staged a break in, because it would have woken up everyone else in the house.

    The last theory would be the assumed scenario that all 6 were at the house (board games, book discussions, playing with kids, responsible parenting), an accident takes place (obviously in the basement) and all adults assume that the police will accuse them of neglect once seeing the board games and signs of responsible parenting so they all decide to clean up evidence (of intelligence and the accident), go to bed and call 911 in the morning. There's still the issue of physical evidence. If this accident happened on the 16th, and all agreed to wait and call 911 in the morning, all agree on the story and what they will say happened (a midnight abduction), why wouldn't they stage the break in? Why would they go through all of that then when they are creating the midnight abduction story not think to break a window or mess up the door?

    Ahh! So many choices to pick from! Thankfully they all include boardgames, reading discussions (the intelligent kind), and responsible parenting.

    I'm a parent. I was 17 when I had my daughter. I finished high school and college while working full time, being a completely single mother, providing and caring for my daughter completely on my own. No child support. No contact with her father. It was hard, it took A LOT OF WORK but after all of this I managed to raise an amazing child who gets straight A's, is in advanced classes, attends a private school and LOVES to volunteer and help others. How did this happen? When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a mother, I put childish ways behind me.

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    1. I just had to respond to your post. Excellent. My theory is an amalgamaton of several of yours.

      Suppose when Courtney and Elisha arrive at the home on violet the evening o the 16th with their kids they are told ayla is sleeping maybe even "under the weather" henc Ayla's cousin is not put in that room with her that night but instead, sleeps with her mother Elisha, so that Ayla is not disturbed. One adult gets up in the wee hours and removes the sleeping (deceased) child while the rest of the household sleeps. As you say, a break in annot really effectively be staged at that time because the risk of rousing the rest of the house.

      Morning arrives, responsible parents go to wake little ones with a well balanced breakfas awaiting them to discover Ayla is missing.

      My thought is, it is not logical to me that two adult women with little ones of their own would continue to lie and cover up for JD. The only reason would be fear of consequences of a night filled with coloring and board games, and even then, I don't see them holding out for this long.

      It makes much more sense to me that JD and JD alone emoved Ayla from that house and that his sister and his girlfriend are simply parroting the facts as they kow them, courtesy of what they have been told by JD.

      If either of those women had set actual eyes on a living, active ayla the night of the 16th then I can't for the life of me imagine why police are intersted in his activities in a portland gas staion in the early morning hours of the 15th.

      To me, police interest in Justin's activities in the days proceeding the non-abduction suggests they are exploring the idea that Ayla may have been harmed in the days prior to the 911call. I thunk they are looking for confirmation of a live ayla from someone outside the D family.

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  6. how about less speculation and simply facts

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    1. Melissa? Is that you honey? Angela? Justin? Heidi? I wonder if you will visit Justin in jail after he has been getting worn-out by Bubba and the "Pain Train"?

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    2. I agree facts is all one should be putting out there!!! A BABY IS STILL MISSING!!!!

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    3. Someone should check that lawyer of Phoebe his Disciplinary record doesnt look good and who better to sell a baby than a lawyer with underground ties? Just another thought that should be checked out. She could have come back while everyone sleeping and took Ayla. As for blood that may be from "another accident" that went unreported with Ayla. WHERE IS AYLA?

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    4. I recall reading or hearing that Elisha's child WAS in the room with Ayla and was being fussy or cranky so she went and got her and took her to her bedroom. This changes the scene the lawyer set up to say a 'normal quiet night' IMO. He also skipped over marijuana use that night. I also have to say he lied about not knowing if polys were done on his clients. Why lie about that to media? Just skip that comment altogether? But to lie? So we can add him to the list of those who has lied to the media. How long did Phoebe know this lawyer anyhow? Or Elisha? Hinky Meter is singing loudly when a lawyer lies to the public. I agree someone needs to check his background well.

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    5. But if the blood was from an unrelated accident, then wouldn't the person who cleaned it up and stitched up Ayla's wound come forward and explain what happened? Either explain the accident that caused the blood or have it used against you as being the result from a possible murder/neglectful death. Which would you prefer? If the police presented this blood evidence in connection with her being missing, and it was in fact from an unreported accident from a different time, they would have been quickly explaining what happened to cause the blood to be there.

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  7. I've heard that Ayla was seen by one of his friends who was at a "party" at the house on the 16th. This friend of mine said that from what she heard (her relative works with Justins friend), his friends are CONVINCED he had nothing to do with it. You couldnt tell them otherwise. To me, it makes sense that whatever went down, happened in the middle of the night and no one, friends included were privy to that information.

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    1. Sure... it must have been Professor Plum in the kitchen with a candlestick! Get real you chuckle-headed maroon.

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  8. I'm sorry but what do you mean by the night Ayla died? How are you so sure?

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    1. A better question would be how are you NOT sure you fucking dolt? Seriously...what shred of evidence is there of her survival? There is plenty of evidence pointing to Ayla being deceased..not the least of which HER blood splattered on the floor and WALL of Daddy's basement bedroom! So much so that the FBI's CACU took off, concluding there was ZERO chance of an abduction and it was pointless to investigate further.

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    2. I think those are very poor choice of words.no were not idiots..but you do not know what happened for sure..you do not know that she is not alive!!! Why take away what hope we do have for a happy ending......

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    3. Completely agree. People are getting so angry when realistic people put 1 and 1 together and come up with 2. Where is this proof of life? A small child was injured badly in that basement. The blood is being reported as belonging to Ayla. Any parent will hold a bit of hope in their heart for the safe return of their child. That's natural. But there also has to be some realistic thinking going on here to figure out what happened and get the people responsible before a judge and jury. Saying that she's alive and was taken by some stranger is just protecting the people involved. Stop protecting THEM and seek justice for HER! Blood doesn't splatter when someone gets cut. And if it does, they would need medical attention asap. There's no record, that I'm aware of, that shows where Ayla was treated for anything that would produce a high amount of blood splatter in her father's basement. Wouldn't her mother or anyone else have noticed this wound? And again, wouldn't someone have explained to police how the blood got there if it wasn't involved with her being missing right now??

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    4. Who said the blood was 'splatter'?? Not LE!

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  9. I just wish who ever did this would come forward and let this nation find out where Ayla is. The questions in everyone's mind keep coming and no answers. I like the pints that were made, I hadn't even heard all that was mentioned and i agree about the storage sheds if there is anything pointing that Justin may have things stored.The is so much more info that is not being released to the public. I like how informative this page is, Thank you and Pray for Ayla

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  10. so what about the blood in the basement 'more than a small cut would produce'

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  11. How about that insurance policy he took out on Ayla?

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  12. I agree and have always had an awful feeling about this case but have tryed to stay positive and keep praying everyday that Ayla will be home soon who ever that may be with but for real I noticed that you have written when Ayla died in one of your sentences was that a typo... I also believe that there is no way that all three adults are telling the truth something is very wrong and they are keeping something hidden I am just waiting for closure on this it is very difficult when your hands are tied as mine are on the outside looking in through different types of the media... I wish and pray everyday that she is given the justice that she so deserves.... and also pray for her safe return into loving arms again......

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  13. I Want to no why no one is saying any thing about the blood that was found in the basement? it would be a cold day in hell that i will ever thing that some one took that little girl. i think her dumb father killed her. :( he needs to rot in jail!!!

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  14. Don't you worry.. This piece of crap will be passed around the "Pain-Train" like the Popov Vodka in a hobo's grocery-cart condo.

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  15. Why are my comments being removed ..awe perhaps only your opinion matters...Not

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    1. I have not deleted any comments, if yours are not showing up, I suggest you repost them again. There has been a lot of activity on this blog recently and maybe the site was congested? I will not censor anyone, everyone's opinion matters.

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    2. I have read comments, on previous websites, that Pheobe is related to the DHS lady who placed Ayla, into Justin's care.
      I have also read as a comment on a different site, about Justin trying to obtain a CDL. So whoever is writing this blog, probably wrote the comment that I saw, or read the same comment..and is trying to pass it off as her fact.
      anyway, i think whoever blog this belongs to, is just look for their 15 mins.
      If you're a Mandatory Reporter, that means you have some kind of job in health care. I am also a Mandatory Reporter, but to my understanding...it is to report abuse that you see in "patients" and gives you permission..to release certain files to the athorities when they request to view them.
      Anyway...you can try to hide your idenity from us, but I am sure someone can hack you, and find out who you are.

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    3. I am confused, where did I say anything about Phoebe being related to anyone in DHS? I also commented I had read on a blog he was going for his CDL, I at no time tried to pass that off as fact or that it was my own information. Also who said anything about being a mandated reporter?

      Are you sure you on commenting on the right blog? I am sure if someone wants to know who I am badly enough they can hack me. My identity is not top secret, I just don't think it matters. The only information I released that wasn't from the Internet and news stories was that I knew Justin was in Portland on the 15th, that has now been confirmed by an eyewitness

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  16. this just reminds me of Caylee ANthony story i really hope not but the evidance is heading in the bad direction :(

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  17. My opinion is that whatever the outcome, Ayla should be given justice.. its ok for people to have an opinion on what happened.. i have mine.But whatever has happened to her the important thing is that her case is thoroughly reviewed over and over until she is found. I agree, the story told on the 16th dec is admittedly very odd however i also have reservations about Aylas family on her mothers side. what i struggle with is why Tristas parents couldnt have Ayla while their daughter was attending Re-hab? i couldnt say how i would feel,act or cope with a loss of a child i have 3 of my own but all i can say is knowing myself as well as i do.. i would be tearing down mountins to find my child!!! Im reading and listening from England hoping everyday this little girl is found! much love Ayla you will be in our thoughts until you are found!! xxx

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    1. The reason Ayla was placed in her father's care is because a biological parent has primary rights in the United States. That means that unless DHHS has any previous verified charges against a bio parent, he will ALWAYS be allowed to take the child into his custody if the child is not currently under the active care of the other biological parent.

      In Ayla's case, she had been in her mother's (Trista's) care. When Trista decided she needed to get help getting clean & sober in order to be a better mother--a claim we have no reason to doubt, as her decision to enter rehab was her own, and NOT a court-mandated program--she left Ayla in the temporary care of her mother (Ayla's grandmother). Once Ayla's father (Justin) learned the child was not actively under Trista's care for the ten days she was in rehab, he contacted Child Welfare and told them he wanted custody of Ayla. DHHS had no choice but to allow (and help) Justin take Ayla away from her Grandparents.

      Interestingly, this was also the same time Justin decided to take out a life insurance policy on Ayla.

      Once DHHS had helped Justin get Ayla, Trista had no choice but to go along with it. She allowed Justin to "care for" the baby until she was ready and able to file for sole custody. Again, interestingly, she filed those papers just days before Ayla went missing.

      I hope this helps explain the situation. The commonly held misconception that Ayla was "removed" from the grandparents' custody is bogus. And it sadly paints these loving, caring, and kind grandparents in a negative light. She was only placed in Justin's custody because he was the biological dad and he demanded custody while Trista was cleaning herself up. There were certainly no allegations that Ayla was in anything but a loving household when she was in her grandparents' care.

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    2. Why was Justin so worried about Ayla's care for ten days? If he wanted Ayla dead so bad why care enough about her to move in with your mom to take custody? I only think this shows he cared about Ayla. I do, however, believe he has extreme anger and resentment over sending trista money for child support. Something that could cause motive to take Ayla from trista and keep her, but not kill her.

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  18. I think its time the cops offer one of those women immunity or a lesser charge... to tell the truth, after all the could loose their own kid if the truth comes out somehow and they all end up in jail.

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  19. ...so many speculative opinions...someone mentioned facts...what i know from the police is this- ayla went missing...the police have found a quantity of HER blood , not consistent with a cut..in the basement, her father stays in the basement with her...she's 3 and whatever happened she's gone...one more thing that occurs to me- the crime scene techs needed to use luminol to see the blood- hello people, who cleaned it up to begin with? contrary to popular belief and as any crime scene person will attest...blood needs to be cleaned thoroughly to not leave a trace..bleach etc...Who cleaned up the blood? Did the cause whatever allowed the blood in the first place? And if they didnt, why havent they said anything on their own behalf? Or maybe just maybe they have said some things to the police...things that they have chosen not to reveal as it might hurt the investigation, maybe the police are watching us all as we spin our theories...just my thoughts....

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    1. For 1: she was 20 months old, not 3 yrs at the time of her "disappearance", 2: she did not stay in the basement with her father that night. It has been claimed she was put in a room, by herself, that she had never stayed in before. Even if she was used to sleeping in the basement with Dear Daddy & woke up in the middle of the night, crawled out of her crib, with a broken arm mind you, & tried to go downstairs to be with him & fell injuring herself or God forbid dying, then why wouldn't he have just called 911. That would constitute an accident! So what are they hiding? Plus the fact that he "ran out of the police station" when shown the pictures of her blood. He is guilty as sin if you ask me, even if it was an "accident."

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    2. It wasn't the first time she slept in that room. That was her room, that she shared with her cousin.
      She was not in a crib.

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  20. I have a question. Was the blood found in the basement in the bedroom?

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  21. i wonder y she is not on the headlines hardly at all.. what did they for get about the almost 2 year old that is no where to be found? did they just stop looking? i mean really, i hope that he has her in a safe place to heal with out anyone knowing and she is still alive somewhere and warm!! my heart goes out to her and her mom and the rest of the family...

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  22. couple things- well a lot of things...theories are good- it's called brainstorming and it's how people come to possible conclusions to solve problems. problem: ayla bell reynolds is missing. since we do NOT know all the details, we can only form theories based on what we do know. first, why isn't anyone questioning phoebe more? in phoebe's interview, did anyone else notice how she couldn't look the reporter straight in the eyes when asked certain questions about where ayla was, but she did for some of the questions? it was very clear to me. second, where in the h-ll was phoebe that night?!!!! it makes me want to laugh- why did she lie that she was there, and then wasn't? how simple would it have been for her to come home in the middle of the night and taken ayla...then there wouldn't be signs of a forced brake in, would there? how often does she stay out all night? was this out of character? or was it normal for her to be gone all night 'secretly' away...what would be her motive? to protect justin from child support? i mean they all knew ayla was only there temporarily. they weren't going to have to be physically responsible for her for much longer, just financially responsible...was the financial aspect too much for them and the stress of it caused them to create a plan to end that? it doesn't seem reasonable since elisha also had a baby...and justin had made a clear choice to date courtney a woman who also has a baby. so, who else knew ayla lived there? someone close to trista? a social worker gone criminal? bob vear across the street along with numerous people who lived on violet avenue and who know justin, courtney and elisha. there is a market for babies- big money- may be the case of baby lisa in kansas city...so why not in maine? yes, great point above...who cleaned up the blood??? you are not really a murderer are you? immature new father maybe...that's most new dads...nothing to be ashamed of, but a murderer? that's the worst person out there. was it an accident? accidents do happen....but how and why if it involves the life your daughter are you covering it up? doesn't make sense. is this about money? drugs? let's check yourself...quick easy question- what is more important? drugs, money, your freedom maybe? OR YOUR BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL THAT IS IRREPLACEABLE...
    just because justin was not with ayla on the 16th in portland doesn't prove anything. wasn't "grandpa" bob vear helping watch ayla? and who is bob vear referring to in his fb post "i know what you know and it's time to be a man and face up"
    what about the car in the middle of the night? a loud noise- would have been someone jumping back in the car slamming the door and high tailing it out of there. if you are in the basement...you might not hear this. elisha did hear her baby crying and woke up to get her...and we all know mom's are light sleepers, so how in the world did she not hear anything else?
    what was the story i read about witnesses seeing a woman passing a baby to three men at 5;30 in the morning at cool and violet and brushing her cheek before she left????

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  23. and my last and most important question- why in the world have we not heard from justin, courtney, elisha or phoebe? it might possibly be the MOST incriminating piece of evidence i see in this mess of a case. if you are so responsible as a parent to take out a life insurance policy on yourself and your child- which i find very organized and reasonable to do- then why aren't you reasonably and responsibly defending your actions? why not clear up all the insinuations and speculation so that people believe you and turn their focus on finding who really took ayla? i know it sucks that you have to defend yourself if you are innocent, but news flash, everyone is pointing their fingers at you!!! stand up for yourself and help prove there is some maniac out there who abducted your beautiful sweet baby girl who may be out there crying for you right now! she may be hungry, cold, sad, so put yourself aside, do what is best for ayla if you truly want to hug and kiss that little girl of yours. there are two sides to every story- well three really, yours, theirs and then the truth. here is what the public knows....one side!!!! why do you want the public to know the other side? because someone in the PUBLIC has your baby or at the very least knows something that might lead to her!!!!! the public may hold the key to bringing her home. have you noticed there are millions of people sickened by this story? our hearts are aching to find ayla...a baby whom we've never met, never known, just fell in love with the instant we saw her face on the tv and internet. we need you 4 to reach out to the public, to share every thing you know- answer the tough questions- and clear up the speculation so if ayla was really taken by someone- then we can all get over half the theories we've constructed and start really putting the pieces together. the fbi does not have ayla on their website as a missing child- they truly do not believe she was taken by anyone. if you are so sure she was, why aren't you out there fighting to prove it?
    if ayla could talk right now what would she say to you? she loves you? she misses you? she forgives you? she needs her mommy and daddy no matter what? that poor little girl- just stand up for her- she needs you so badly. help her- it shouldn't be this hard to explain yourself. i want so badly to believe all of you, and i am CERTAIN the law enforcement does too! this isn't going to end until she is found. i love you ayla- there are millions and millions of people who do. i certainly hope and pray that your family is included in that group. i cannot imagine for one second that they don't. i just can't. i see your face and i melt. my daughter thinks i'm crazy- but you've touched my heart and my soul and this case and the case of baby lisa....it's just unbelievable. i am so sorry for you that you didn't ask for this. i know you just want to smile and laugh and be hugged by your parents....we will find you!

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  24. thanks for creating this blog. i, too, wake up thinking about her, as i do when i get in bed, and wake up in the middle of the night wondering if she needs a hug. i have her pictures up, i talk about her to my family and i cry too often- usually at the most inappropriate times, like a business meeting or at my daughter's gymnastics meets, in the shower, when i'm driving or on the phone with someone barely listening b/c i'm going over and over in my head what could have happened...who would ever hurt that face? even in the darkest moments when my kids are crying or being difficult, i don't understand hurting a child. for one thing...that only makes them hurt and therefore cry harder. i remember a few months ago shelby dasher beat her son to death b/c he would not let her sleep....point being, i guess there are people out there who would kill their child for reasons we will never comprehend. moments of rage....that end someone's innocent life. how do we change that? well that was really off the topic, sorry. just been racking my brain lately and every time i look at my one year old...i can't even come close to a reason that i would hurt him, much more kill him. look at ayla's pictures...what kind of a monster would it take to kill or hurt her? is that justin? phoebe? courtney? i don't know them. is it in them? can drugs change someone enough to do that? hmmm....i'll never get it. i'll never ever understand this. justice. justice for ayla. but where is justice for caylee anthony? our country's justice system fails- a lot. maybe the person who knows what happened to ayla is banking on that for themselves.

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  25. Could the loud sound been a gun shot? That would explain the splatter effect of the blood in the basement. And the car in the middle of the night was someone to help clean up the mess and the baby's body. Which might be way, When Justin says he doesn't know where Ayla is he is telling the truth. falling down the stairs wouldn't create the blood spatter that they are talking about, it would be more of a leak and a pooling effect on the floor. But someone cleaned it up or at least tried. And the amount of drugs that have been said to be involved with these people would be considered a felony because they are amounts that would be listed as dealing.

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    1. It is possible it could have been a gunshot but if so then police would likely know this and possibly would have arrested someone already. The bullet would have had to go somewhere unless it remained in poor Ayla but I am guessing she is so little it would have passed right through and lodged itself in the wall or ceiling?

      There is no evidence that Justin or Courtney were involved with drugs only Courtney's sister and we don't even know if she was close to Courtney or if Courtney was aware of it before she got busted. I am sure it was quite possible drugs were involved but I am not sold on the dealing scenario just yet. Besides, they would have had plenty of time to remove the drugs from the home prior to calling the police. Only an idiot would leave the drugs in the house, knowing police were going to search it for clues.

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  26. so it's this simple...he was given custody of his daughter for just a few months and decided immediately he was going to kill her in cold blood and collect 25K from a life insurance policy. so he tells his whole family the plan, bc they are all going to agree to killing this beautiful little ayla, how they are going to do it....shoot her, right in the house with a shotgun so the neighbors can hear it also so there is blood evidence, clean up most of the blood but leave some visible to the naked eye, concoct a story that someone broke in, but have no evidence of it, and then they are all going to split the enormous 25 thousand dollars....all 4 adults and 2 children...oh and he is also going to put in writing on his text message a couple times that he feels like someone is going to take her. then, he is going to agree right away to take a polygraph test and fail it. his mom is going to go on national tv and lie about where she was, and then he is going to contact a missing children's agency to help find his daughter too...NOT BUYING IT- this isn't how it went down.
    there are red flags though- why did she miss her doctors appt and it had not been rescheduled, why hadn't she been able to talk to trista when she called that whole week, why cancel child support payments if you love your daughter and want her back, why aren't you on the news pleading for your child and defending your story, why aren't you in contact with trista daily to work together to find the child you created, why call it a helpless situation so early on, why are you never smiling in any of the pictures with your beautiful daughter, why all the injuries, why drugs around children, why the blood, there are just so many why's justin...if there are reasonable answers for all these things, just know there are a lot of people praying for you to speak those words. we do not want to believe for a minute that you could do this! but it's a lot easier to believe than some stranger walking in off the street in a tiny house full of people and 3 babies and then just pick ayla and leave...without a trace.

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    1. WORST CASE SCENARIO going on in my head right now...so if it WAS an accident- it took place in the middle of the night- Justin was busy doing 'something' b/c of course he hasn't seen his girlfriend in awhile...and ayla came downstairs and he pushed her, not intending on killing her, but she fell, hit her head and blood evidence is created. it's night time, they are rushing, they don't clean it all up. they don't have time to worry about it b/c they have to figure out how to cover up this accident or forever change all of their lives...what about their lives, their children's lives... they call phoebe- she comes home to protect them...she has resources. they all feel terrible, "helpless," but vow to stand strong in their belief that she was taken...bc otherwise one or more people are going to jail..losing custody of the other children in the house...i mean i get the thought process there. it's a ridiculously difficult life changing decision...but in the end it's only going to make their jail sentence worse. of course they are banking on the police never recovering ayla...if phoebe has these types of "friends"...that would dispose of a beautiful little girl...i mean, it's plausible. makes me want to run to the bathroom and vomit, but it's possible. everyone keeps theorizing this "accident" occurred, so this would be my best theory. phoebe comes home with some friends, they carry ayla to these men's car and off...by 9 a.m. their story comes to life. in the end it never had anything to do with money or life insurance or child support, it was just a horrible accident. i don't know. i want to believe different with my whole heart b/c i cannot imagine this little girl not being present in this world. running around with those bright blue eyes, that adorable smile and omg...can't stand it anymore. this would weighing on me...it would be weighing on all four of them, plus the accomplices...and nobody has enough respect to come forward? again, hard to buy, but...?

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  27. question: does courtney live in portland or waterville? how long had they been dating pre ayla? was he cleaning out his apt b/c he was not moving back in...meaning he was devoted to living with his mom to take care of ayla? what were his motives behind cleaning the rest of his stuff out?

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    1. never mind- just saw your recent posts...she lives in portland. so he was willing to move away from courtney to take care of ayla. that says a lot to me! that would be a sign he cared about ayla's living conditions...but was he resentful??? moving out of an apt with friends to have to live in a basement with his mom at his age? and take care of a 20 mos old??? and pay for her? and see his girlfriend less..that is A LOT of change in a small amount of time that he wasn't asking for! of course he is dating someone with a kid...so he is familiar with how much work that is. just still a bit immature, right? out partying...etc...nothing we all aren't guilty of. but his mom works...and so his sister helps with ayla during the day when he is running errands or cleaning out his apt in portland? does courtney work? did he stop to see her on the 15th? it's an hour there and an hour back...so he was in portland for just an hour moving stuff...plausible. so someone should have definite proof that they had ayla on the 15th...right? otherwise she would be somewhere between waterville and portland, right? there is proof he was at his apt right?

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    2. If he had Ayla, he would not have to pay child support. He reportedly had told Trista's sister he was fine with Ayla being with her and Ayla's grandmother. My thought is his mother or someone told him if he had Ayla, he would not have to pay child support. There is no way he could have kept her in the apartment with the other guys, so he moved home. He gets Ayla, and within a month or so, her arm is broken. He takes her to the doctor, sets an appointment for the 12th, does not call and cancel, just does not show up. He did not want Ayla, he told Trista if the baby was his, he did not want her to carry the pregnancy to term. So he was not crazy about Ayla, she was the result of a one-night stand, and now, if Trista got her back, he would be paying child support again. Its amazing. that Trista petitioned the court the day before Ayla went missing,and that she did not tell Justin. She put a dent in his time with his girlfriend, and she would be a thorn in his side until she was 18. Whether it was an accident or murder, the people in that house know either what happened or suspect what happened.

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  28. last question- please tell me that phoebe dipietro doesn't work for the trash company????? i just read that....come on. i am shaking my head in disbelief...so she has a lot of buddies in the waste management field? i can't even let my mind go there. i am putting every ounce of faith i have in authorities to bring this person to justice. now.

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  29. I'm sorry I actually wrote on here b/c there wasn't anyone arguing or fighting like there is on FB, but just a simple statement of what theories or ideas were going on with the information we have...not all of which are factual of course...and now I see those people have found your page- otherwise, it really is a nice place to just vent, since there are a lot of us out there who are really upset about Ayla's disappearance and either live out of state or feel as if we need a place to let all of these thoughts out of our head. I'm not taking anyone's side...I have NO idea what happened, and I don't know any of these people. I am a mom who has been touched and saddened by this case, and for 2 months now I have had a thousand theories running through my mind...If it really is going to hamper the case when it is at trial then I would try to keep my thoughts to myself, but are you really going to try to tell millions of people what to do? If LE wanted that to happen they would recommend it themselves. Otherwise we are just citizens using our personal freedom of speech. Sorry that our constitutional rights offend you so much. To the person writing this blog...Keep up with the blog if you feel comfortable. It's your decision, not anyone else's. Matter of fact, you also have the right to delete whatever you choose. :) Including mine! I won't be offended. I just need a place to think out loud. Thanks!

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  30. As soon as I heard there was blood found in the home, my heart sank and I cried. If the adults in that house can not give the public an explanation for the blood, there it is.... THEY have something to do with it. My heart aches for baby Ayla. My heart also aches for Trista. Although it is obvious she has problems of her own, it sounds to me like she was trying to straighten out, via rehabilitation. I can't imagine the state giving my baby to someone I don't even know that well and then she goes missing. The state is to blame for a lot of this, and the Depietro family need to come forward with what happened to that innocent child. I look at the paper every day hoping to find anything written about Ayla, but they are not keeping us informed. I think about that baby everyday and I pray for her soul and her if she is still with us. Someone knows where she is.

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  31. what about the loud sound being a gun shot,

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  32. I'm glad I found this place. I have found more info here than in any newspaper or on tv. I have one thing to say about the blood. I once hit my head on a metal cabinet and it sprayed clear up to the ceiling. I had to repaint the whole kitchen. And the cut was so small it didn't even take stitches. Minor head wounds can be bizarre beeders. I'm just offering that fact. Now, why they wouldn't remember Ayla getting seriously hurt in the basement is just weird. I have no answer for that. This whole case is weird and I keep following it. Thanks for all the info.

    Oh, where can I find confirmation on the bit about someone in the father's family working for the landfill? Anyone know?

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  33. I have also thought for quite some time that Ayla was gone from that house before Dec. 16/17, and at least before the 12th because I understand that's when the missed appointment to have her broken arm checked was scheduled for. I have to ask again why DHS wasn't out to the house the next day, or even that day, to find out why he didn't take her to the doctor, then we would know for a fact whether or not she was still in the house and safe, at least until the 13th. And I hadn't heard he was in Portland on Dec. 16th cleaning out his former apartment. He could drive to Portland to do that, but he repeatedly refused to drive to Portland to take Ayla to see Trista? If she was fine on that day I think he would have taken her to Portland with him and left her at Trista's for a visit. I think we all know she wasn't fine on the 16th, and had not been fine for some time before the 17th 911 call. I think it was all premeditated. I think he managed to get her so he could rid himself of his problem of having to pay her mother child support for another 16 years, plus whatever he owed for back support. He didn't want her in this world to begin with and he definitely didn't want to pay for her.

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    1. I totally agree with you. He never wanted Ayla. He had filed to terminate his child support. He purchased a life insurance policy. Ayla was constantly coming home bruised and wound up with a broken arm. He despised Ayla..he wanted her gone...why not make money off it? Just figure out how to get rid of her so her remains wont be found and he's home free! Except LE is not stupid. They know Ayla was not kidnapped and then they find her blood...oops...so now he shuts his mouth and his Mom does the same...along with the girl friend and sister who both knew what he was going to do. He was not a part of Ayla's life on a regular basis...they knew he despised her and that he resented paying for her support....I hate to think of what his anger did to this precious child...I pray that her remains are found and charges of murder are pressed against all involved. I feel sorry for Trista...she was trying to get her life straight and it is obvious when you look at Ayla's photos, that she was very loved and well cared for when she was with her Mother and her Grandfather.

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  34. That is a fabulous point! Why, if he was going to Portland, did he not offer for trista to see Ayla who she had not seen since October!!! Much less spoken to that week. I am beginning to question my own judgment on giving Justin way too much credit...but I'm not writing on here to express my opinion about him personally, just to try to brainstorm. Just hoping that if he is arrested they have as strong of a case possible against him. I'm still not 100%convinced though. The stories/theories just arent adding up...yet. Certainly very close.

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  35. Why hasn't anyone questioned the fact that Justin obtained life insurance on this baby? I have seen pictures of him and seen him on tv...is it just me or is it strange that someone like him would purchase life insurance period, let alone on his child? How many people really go around insuring their children's lives? Am I the only one who thinks this fact ALONE reeks of foul play?? I hope Bubba doesn't use lube...

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    1. Are you kidding? Everyone is questioning it. I was stunned when I heard that. But we are missing so many facts that it's difficult to know where exactly that fits in with the case and Ayla missing. Yes, it may seems obvious but I contend he intended to get rid of Ayla with or without life insurance policies. And for all we know his mother made him and gave him money for the premium. Some people are like that, they take out life insurance policies on their kids almost the day they are born. Others, such as me, are horrified when asked to do so. I remember when my first daughter was born one of my good friend's dad was an insurance salesman and he brought up the idea of buying life insurance on my 3 month old daughter. I guess the look on my face said it all because he pretty much dropped it. I didn't mean to insult him but I had no idea at that time that people did such things. I know now that some families do. This seems weird and suspicious naturally, since Ayla is gone but again, no way to say how it fits with the case.

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    2. Just to say..I am one of those people that took out a life insurance policy right away on my child. My reason for doing so was because I did not have much money at the time. My thoughts were that if God forbid something happened to my child, I would be able to provide a decent funeral/burial, etc. Not saying this would be why he would, but it is a possibility.

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  36. I so agree with you dplourde. From the get go I watch his behavior and felt that there was more to this. I to feel there is foul play. It wouldnt surprise me if he left his home and dispose of Ayla remains. May she rest in peace because I dont feel she is a live

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  37. Sadly, I don't feel she is, either. Discussing the case with a coworker today, she said, "I just have to hold out hope that she is alive somewhere. I just can't let myself believe she is dead." I said to my coworker that, yes, I too would like to believe she is alive, everyone would...I just don't believe it is a very realistic hope at this point.

    About life insurance, I have policies on each of my five kids, but it is ONLY because it is a benefit offered to me through my employer, at minimal cost to me. But, I might add, the policies are only for enough to pay for their final expenses should something (God forbid) happen to them. And I'm not even sure it would cover the whole thing. I just cannot believe this guy is still walking around out there, free as a jay. Do I believe the Mom is at all innocent in all of this? Absolutely not. Do I believe the mom should be able to sue DHHS for supposedly not checking up on her daughter and supposedly placing her in an unsafe environment? 100% absolutely not. How about NOT drinking/drugging and actually being a MOTHER to your child in the first place??? This is what I would say to Trista. And to think she has been given another when so many loving couples remain childless...it makes me sick to my stomach. People like her should be forced to be sterilized. But as far as Justin and the other adults who were there--they all know what happened. They know where she is. I know this with all my heart. And given the blood-spatter evidence, I cannot for the life of me understand why SOMEONE hasn't yet been arrested in this case.

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  38. I wouldn't take my child with me to clear out an apartment. I would leave her at home with a sitter or family member.

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    1. No offense to you Anon but why is Justin cleaning this apartment out or getting "his stuff" 2 months after having Ayla in his custody. You probably don't know anymore than I do.
      Justice for Ayla--maybe you might? Timing is everything. 3 days before Ayla was reported missing...very HINKEY to me.

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    2. I agree timing is everything. I have no info to back up my suspicion but I suspect he either cleaned out the apartment to protect his friends from having police search their apartment or get them involved. They do not want to be involved in this and have tried very hard to remain out of it or he got his stuff out of Portland so getting a storage unit would not seem suspicious and Ayla is waiting there to be disposed of at a later time, maybe when the ground is not frozen? There is no proof of a storage unit that we know of though.
      I think Justin being in Portland lends to the suspicion that Ayla was gone before age was reported missing and Justin used this time to tie up loose ends.

      If Justin didn't want her underfoot while moving, why not bring her to visit Trista since she had been begging to see her?

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    3. Exactly....

      It almost sounds like something happened/disussed between Justin and Trisa's conversation in the very last phone call Trista had w Ayla the week before "the move"-- 12/8/11. Because 4 days later the appt was a no show for Ayla. Did he have like a whole house full of items that would require a storage unit. Sorry I know there are different sizes to rent.
      and do you know for sure if Justin wasn't staying w the friends in Portland prior to 12/15/11? I 100% agree with all you stated on his friends not needing to be involved in his lies/cover-up.
      This just messes up the "timeline" given to LE by JD and Co.

      TIA and you are a brave soul to keep this blog going in putting Ayla's name out here and answering our questions from all over the states. Her sperm donor surly isn't.

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    4. Thank you and I wish I had more answers. I do not know what was taken that last day, only that it all fit in Justin's SUV. I also don't know how often Justin was there prior to the 15th. I know someone else had already moved in and claimed his room. I imagine any time that Justin spent in Portland, he spent it with Courtney who lived across the street. I unfortunately have not been able to ask new questions because they are upset with me getting them involved. They do not want LE to think they have withheld anything from them

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  39. I lost count of the amount of comments re: blood SPLATTER. I have not heard or read anything about the blood being splattered, except as a rumour on blogs and fb pages. where is that coming from?

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    I read somewhere that LE spent a considerable amount of time searching the garage with dogs. WHy? Has anyone speculated what is in there that required so much attention? My thoughts were that if something happened to Ayla before the 12th, but after the 8th, it was at that house, in the basement and involving the babygate and stairs somehow(reason it is so very sensitive)...perhaps DiP's needed to keep her cold to prevent decomp. process from beginning until they could get her out unnoticed, clean up and make a story, clear out apt and any up any drug-related loose ends at CR's sister's, before cops are notified, etc... do they have a freezer in the garage? ALso, as far as anyone helping them...I am from a very small town much the same, everyone knows you deal it, ESPECIALLY your family! THere is no way Courtney lived with her sis and was not aware. Awareness=participation if you do nothing. SHe had her kid living there with all that. WHat a good MOM...not.A criminal Justice major? Did I read correctly? THat would def help with a cover up and staging...perhaps the only critical thinker of the bunch except ED possibly. Also, is it likely anyone up to their ass with these guys is likely to lie for them or tip them off with info(like custody filings). Drug addicts and recreational users come from all walks of life(Rush Limbaugh, lawyers, court clerks,etc.... No one is immune, and anyone can hide that secret(anyone AND their dealer...)so there is no telling who in that town uses, and everyone gets their supply from the same few people-6 degrees is even less, more like three, in small populations... I love logic puzzles so am working on a timeline/possibility flowchart...As it stands, I am inclined to believe she was gone way before the day she was reported, whether alive and horribly injured/comatose or deceased, as they needed the time to fake the abduction and clean up.

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  41. Has the thought occurred to anyone besides myself that Ayla WAS taken by someone, that Justin owes money or he will never see his daughter again? That this person or people came over that night, took Ayla, Justin tried to fight for her, causing some of her blood to become present, note "some of the blood was Ayla's" and some could have been from this person or Justin himself? I did also notice his nose looked like he had been punched....but does anyone feel compelled to hear what he was saying in his interview, "you have no right, you may think you do, but you don't. Ayla belongs home with her family." it's really as if he was talking to someone specifically. "I can tell you what I'm not." "I would never harm my daughter, she is the world to me." "it feels like a helpless situation." that statement would make sense if he couldn't do anything for her due to fear that they would hurt her. I would feel helpless too. Also would be the one and I repeat one reason they couldn't tell police everything. The police statements may be true but skewed...Justin may have failed his poly, but clearly wasn't able to tell the whole truth? Justin, his family, and his girlfriend may not be telling them or us everything for a reason, that reason being that Ayla's life is threatened. No, there wasn't an abduction while they all slept, but there could have been an abduction, one that took place that evening or night that left them with a story to create until they could figure a way to repay the debt....remember whoever may have her values their life more than Ayla's, and certainly wouldn't want to be named, or caught. Would make sense why everyone is lying and " in hiding." so is it drug debt? Could he have stole money from the bar he worked for, that has since closed down, and it finally caught up to him? Would also explain why he was scared someone was going to take Ayla. He knew it was his only asset. He also wouldn't return her to trista bc he was trying to protect Ayla-he did say he was emotionally incapable of doing an interview at first. He doesn't like to show his emotions publicly,but where does he not care about Ayla? He is the one who asked for custody of her. There are pictures of him w her at a fair or a carnival, and her napping on him in his arms, her dressed up for Halloween, and a red Christmas dress new on the hanger.. The creator of this blog even identified her B-I-L, one of his roommates, as having said Justin was very attentive and proud of Ayla. Justin was also dating someone with a child, so he clearly, in the least, doesn't mind children. He has been nothing but attacked since the blood evidence...if there was so much blood why has he not been arrested? He even said, "he wouldn't be standing here," if there was. Every move he now makes is attacked and spun to make him look guilty. He also said the police told him not to do an interview in the first two weeks...if that is not typical, then there must be a reason for that, possibly the police, too, know more than you think. Phoebe said she would give everything she owned to have Ayla back. Another message relating to a financial debt possibly owed? Courtney and Elisha are standing by Justin...as a mom, I know, there is nothing or no one I would put before my kids....so a cold blooded killer comes first for both of them? No, not if they know he is innocent of murder.
    I'm not trying to be naive here...it's just that everyone is spinning every thing in just one direction, and I believe it's only fair to try to spin it the other direction...trust me, I've already spun it the other way, it's just something is not right and I want to see another side. Let the questions begin! (But let's stick to the facts please)

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  42. In the beginning I thought the same thing, Justin was innocent and somebody took her. As more evidence came out, blood in the basement, the lies, the life insurance policy, I began to think that was the story Justin wants us to believe. If someone took Ayla in collateral for a drug debt, why not do whatever it takes to pay them and get her back? Also if a drug dealer took her, they aren't going to want to be shackled with a child. Likely Justin would start receiving pieces of her so he would hurry up and get the person their money. If Justin knows who has her why not tell LE so they can get Ayla back and put the person in jail and then Justin is debt free to them. Hard to collect on a debt in prison.
    Maybe he is innocent but too many things in my mind point to otherwise. Why isn't he out searching for her? Instead he is renting movies and chauferring his brother to fights? I think Justin thought long and hard about his statement and if he really thought someone had her why wait so long to release the statement?
    I appreciate you looking at both sides and being objective, Frostiness. Thanks for this theory

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  43. Cristine, i see where you are coming from and commend you for trying to look for the best in everyone.
    to me, Justin sounds completely insincere and a lousy actor when he made that statement.
    i personally believe he is attempting to be crafty and is already trying to get alternative scenarios out there that lead away from himself or at least add that 'reasonable doubt' ingredient to his liar stew.
    'floating' the idea that 'you have no right blah blah' instead of falling on his hands and knees and blubbering/begging whoever 'abducted' Ayla to return her or drop her at a safe place no questions asked (as a normal dad would do), was a clumsy attempt to stir up questions that he could potentially use to his advantage when his reckoning day comes in court. he is already thinking ahead and knows he will be charged and is muddying the waters. jmo.

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  44. Cristine, it's nice to see someone thinking like I have! I don't know if I agree about the drug debt, but I DO think it's possible that JD and company knows who took Ayla.

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    1. Who do you think? Explain that more to me so I can understand your thought on that...who and why?

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  45. I would love to know if the land fills have been searched. If his mom works there it would be easy enough to get rid of a body there.

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  46. This reminds me of a tragic crime that happened where I used to live. We were friends with a detective who was working on a case involving a baby who had been(supposedly)kidnapped and killed.
    He confided to us that they(police)knew the father killed the child and he and the mother staged a drug related 'kidnapping.'
    It was eating him up inside! He said many of the other cops shared their fustration and how they would love to do,"whatever it took to get the truth out of them!" They were finally able to arrest and sentence the father for the murder.
    I strongly believe that the police involved in this case, at the very least, have an assumption of what happened to little Ayla. They may even know exactly what happened to her. But if they don't have enough evidence to prove it, they have to wait until more is uncovered before they can make an arrest and charge anyone. They have to do this to try and make sure there is enough evidence to convict whomever committed the crime. They can't tell us what they know. They have to keep that information confidential until they can make an arrest or arrests. I believe the police know what happened to Ayla and who did it! For the police involved in this case if they do know what really happened, it must be terrible for them to not be able to 'act' on what they know?
    Bless all our men and women in blue and our search and rescue volunteers for working so hard and diligently. They are witness to such horrors that no one should have to endure. They do it for the victims and they do it for us.

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  47. Reading all the posts, If a "Accident" occurred, just saying. I have 5 children, there are things I did differently with the 1st that I didnt with the 5th, things I didn't think possible with the first that I realized later possible with the 5th. With that, a child awaking in the middle of the night, whom was put to bed in a cousin's room so that private time could be had with his girlfriend, groggily looking for daddy in the middle of the night, falling down the stairs, hitting her head on the way down is possible. It would cause blood to splatter as my 3 yr old daughter, my third born, and now 13 yr old proved to me falling down 4 steps. And when we are first time parents we take our children to the Emergency Room for a mesquito bite, I know I've been there and done it. But I also remember freaking out and calling my mother when they really hurt themselves, and my mother would run over and fix it. I look back now as a work for LE that maybe I should have called 911 first but in that moment we go for our safe person especially when inexperienced and young. Now with that said, I can see a young father freaking out calling his mother and the mother also being afraid that she could lose her son, not just the granddaughter, pressured the others not to say anything, maybe telling them that the could lose their children if anything was said. This is all possible, but makes them all guilty just the same, and just saying if I was one of these women afraid that I could lose my child because of this, would I stay around and be involved? Not me, I'd get away so I would not be implicated any further than I already was, either girlfriend or sister, I'd get away from the ones that put me at risk to lose my child.

    Be it 4 or 6, it took that many to cover up a crime, it takes one to obtain justice for a little girl who didnt want anything but to be loved and played with, who didn't need anything but the love and protection of her family. Who protects Ayla, who speaks for a little girl who can not speak for herself?

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